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00:00:10 <peter1138> OH GOD IT'S ENDED 00:00:13 <Supercheese> ? 00:01:01 <drac_boy> yeah and the old photos of steam hauled dopplestocks always shows at least one or two standard post vans placed either behidn the tender or on the tail .. except for commuter scheduled trains 00:01:18 <drac_boy> so I guess no mail refit then 00:01:49 <drac_boy> Supercheese I think peter1138 is refering to that "end of the world" crap? ;) 00:01:55 <Supercheese> oh 00:05:53 <drac_boy> Supercheese have you ever looked up the classification system used by the japan railways? 00:10:11 <drac_boy> its crazy some of the things you theriocally could get away with (they don't exist for real ofc) under their system .. look at the first table on http://sunny-life.net/train_symbol/trainsymbol.htm and try figure out what a KUMOSINI+KURONEYA two car 'luxury' trainset would sound like if it had existed heh heh 00:13:33 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:17:26 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:15 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc7-pres16-2-0-cust242.18-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 00:29:21 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc7-pres16-2-0-cust242.18-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 00:31:07 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-70-16.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:31:59 <drac_boy> hi pikka 00:32:07 <Pikka> hello 00:34:07 <drac_boy> had something thats a bit of a question and a suggestion at same time... 00:35:36 <drac_boy> why not take an idea out of the japan trainset grf and add a short single line re braking details to the buy list? as it is they say 'no continous brakes - brake van required' but you can use a shorter wording 00:35:42 <drac_boy> for ukrs 00:36:10 <drac_boy> as it is now (or last I remember trying it) there was nothing but the refuse-to-leave-depot error message so mm 00:36:21 <Eddi|zuHause> "brake van required for long trains" 00:37:36 <drac_boy> actually it says absolutely nothing in ukrs3 unless thats a buggy version I have 00:39:41 <drac_boy> anyway it was only more of a suggestion, I've been playing 'japan' maps some too many times to count :-> 00:44:16 <drac_boy> anyhow I did have an actual question... 00:44:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19074.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:25 <drac_boy> could a uk locomotive have worked a few unbraked wagons (say 4 mineral cars loaded with milk churns or something) without requiring a brake van at all? 00:46:41 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.79.115] has joined #openttd 00:46:42 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.79.115] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:43 * drac_boy goes back to uncluttering the damn table 00:51:00 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-012-125.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:55:47 <Pikka> yes, it could drac_boy 00:57:19 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:07:10 <drac_boy> they never explained much about it but in the photos of the trains that appears to be with brake vans at both ends .. I presume such freight trains were for working in both directions with no need to doubleshunt to get a single brakevan moved to other end of train if that was going to be the case otherwise? 01:07:34 *** pjpe [ae5f48b7@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:08:24 *** pjpe [ae5f48b7@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 01:09:23 <drac_boy> it seem to be rather a uk-specific thing as far as I can even remember from varying photos 01:11:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:17:23 * drac_boy still thinks flygon need to get out of australia if he's going to keep complaining about gauge problems and weak locomotives! heh 01:17:31 <Flygon> I just woke up 01:17:36 <Flygon> Weak locomotives? 01:17:36 <drac_boy> :P 01:17:45 <drac_boy> well thats what you mentioned some of the times 01:17:53 <Flygon> They were only reeaaally weak between 1950s to 1980s 01:18:09 <Flygon> Nowadays, they're double headed more than a dude in an orgy 01:18:09 <drac_boy> need some coffee btw flygon? 01:18:15 <drac_boy> lol 01:21:47 <Flygon> It's just odd 01:22:04 <drac_boy> :) 01:22:04 <Flygon> VR would use weak locomotives for passenger services... and everything else for freight 01:22:19 <Flygon> Except for passenger services that actually needed acceleration 01:22:31 <Flygon> And they wondered why everyone was going towards cars @_@ 01:23:23 <drac_boy> heh heh 01:24:04 <drac_boy> flygon is that like a throwback to the 1890-1900s in usa where someone would board a train expectijng to read newspaper while holding a cup of coffee .. and take his time? :) 01:24:26 <Flygon> Well, they do that nowadays 01:24:29 <Flygon> Barring the coffee 01:24:40 <Flygon> There's enough distance between stops :p 01:24:43 <drac_boy> heh heh 01:24:57 <drac_boy> flygon mind you... 01:25:07 <Flygon> It's actually kinda funny 01:25:22 <Flygon> Lots of people are pissed off, because we lack HSR between Sydney and Melbourne 01:25:45 <Flygon> Thing is, to make it commerically viable against airlines, two things need to happen 01:26:00 <Flygon> Airlines need to be shut down from using Melb-Syd as a route 01:26:10 <Flygon> Or the trains need to go over 400km/h 01:26:24 <Flygon> We actually don't realize how far distances are between things 01:26:41 <Flygon> However, we find it hilarious when Brits complain thier trains are slow and take too long 01:27:04 <Flygon> ...I live in a state that's bigger than the British isles. One of the smallest states in Australia. 01:27:06 <drac_boy> one time I booked the train straight from toronto to montreal ... specified a table seat (each coach has four of them, two toward each end. easy to secure these unless at one of the few stations that don't provide seat reservation ticketting and the train is full) .. and guess what it looked like more than two hours later? ... 01:27:47 <Flygon> Hm? 01:28:34 <drac_boy> laptop near the aisle end of table .. my bag on the spare window seat (noone was taking it just yet) ... lunch paperplate near the window .. newspaper sprawn across the bag ... a little bit of clutter on the floor .. and me reading a large magazine in my aisle seat :) 01:29:44 <drac_boy> the person on other side of the table didn't even say anything about it except for "you sure are one train sleeper" near montreal where the train terminated ..... heh! 01:31:30 <drac_boy> it was a 5+ hour trip so....ehhh I'll do whatever I want with the space given unless someone else asked for it :) 01:32:18 <drac_boy> normally if you get a non-table seat and the next seat next to you isn't free you only have just about enough space for a bag under your legs and to read one papers ... but thats about it 01:32:27 <drac_boy> ^_^ 01:33:39 <drac_boy> about the brits complaining about slow trains ... they better not visit japan then .. everything's fast AND people complain about tiny delays! :P I think I have heard the same of NS train delays too 01:34:17 <Flygon> Sorry for the delay 01:35:30 <drac_boy> thats ok :) 01:35:44 <drac_boy> I'll only be asking if you didn't say one thing for a hour .. you know how that goes ;) 01:39:03 <Flygon> The Japanese would hate going to Australia 01:39:17 <Flygon> Here, delays of up to 15 minutes isn't considered unusual 01:39:46 <Flygon> Though, the max allowable delay (without penalties) for Metro is 6 minutes 01:40:06 <Flygon> V/Line's given slack, because most delays happen in zones they can't control (eg. Metro zones) 01:40:14 <drac_boy> well I think it doesn't help that japan have the thing with riding more than one train at once often so .. delays aren't something workable 01:40:55 <Flygon> So as soon as a Diesel fast train hit's non-RFR V/Line tracks, it'll go from 160-200km/h to below 80km/h :P 01:41:06 <drac_boy> eg leave point A at 9:37 .. arrive at B at 10:02 .. next train due on adjacent platform at 10:04 ... arrive at C at 10:36 01:41:42 <Flygon> Doesn't Japan have enough frequency to make it less of a problem? 01:41:48 <Flygon> eg. sub-10 minute frequency 01:41:57 <drac_boy> flygon thats only for some of the heavy commuter routes 01:42:17 <drac_boy> but otherwise for other routes...different trains come at different times so its sorta a "seasonal" thing 01:42:40 <drac_boy> especially when its only one or two platforms shared by many different classes 01:44:52 <drac_boy> for example.. limited express at 9:26 ... short commuter at 9:47 ... local at 9:53 ... etc 01:45:11 <drac_boy> at least larger stations do sometimes seperate their service by platforms but nevertheless 01:45:34 <drac_boy> so you can see why with different services, a delay in connection is not going to work 01:47:16 <drac_boy> flygon I still can't really understand japan trains but :P 01:47:36 <Flygon> Ah, I see... 01:47:45 <Flygon> Here, things just sorta... well 01:47:47 <Flygon> Go 01:47:52 <drac_boy> and these dmu/emu trains dressed up to look like something from anime? I just can't understand them a LOT more! 01:48:30 <drac_boy> especially the ones with "hello kitty!" livery on sides and an actual resemble to a kitten on the front (with the two cab windows being the "eyes" on the face 01:48:45 <Flygon> eg. the timetables tend to be set to fixed frequencies, barring peak periods, where they just shove as many trains as there is slot 01:49:16 <Flygon> So it's not unusual for a train to just come every 15-20 minutes, nearly on the dot (give or take a minute) 01:49:38 <Flygon> V/Line trains have a bit more time variance, due to crossing loops 01:49:50 <Flygon> Crossing loops: The Diesel Fast Trains's worst nightmare 01:50:08 <drac_boy> heh 01:51:37 <Flygon> And in recent times, a more unusual sort of delay is "Held up by Metro EMU" 01:52:10 <Flygon> Since the Comengs struggle to get over 90km/h on the uphill RFR tracks they DO go on... due to both age and how heavy they are (stainless steel ect0 01:52:42 <Flygon> While the Siemens trains could probably break 140km/h... if the braking curve permitted, and the substations wouldn't shut down @_@ 01:53:17 <drac_boy> actually that reminds me of something a bit humorful...one moment... 01:54:00 <Flygon> Like, in the very first test run in a Comeng for the Sunbury electrification (first electric train, actually), they basically thrust the throttle to full, and sat for a few minutes 01:54:06 <Flygon> They recorded this on video from the cab 01:54:41 <Flygon> You could clearly see them discussing line speed limits... at least one seemed a tad surprised that it was faster than the EMU's ever top achieved sleep :p 01:55:37 <Flygon> But you could hear their disappointment when they were about to reach Sunbury... and all they got, given the train had the throttle set to full blast, all they got is 90 01:56:07 <Flygon> However, when going back from Sunbury, the trains go downhill... and they have some of the fastest Metro track on the network 01:56:59 <Flygon> And I've seen them fly by when doing a train non-passenger transfer. I was actually shocked by how fast it was going... if the driver was abusing the Comeng's lack of speed restrictors, he was doing a good job of it. :p 01:57:19 <drac_boy> some people have joked about this being darth vader's train ... I think the resemblence to his mask is maybe a bit too obvious :) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Nankai50000Series01.jpg/800px-Nankai50000Series01.jpg 01:57:36 <Flygon> Hahaha wow what 01:57:43 <Flygon> That's ridiculous looking 01:57:47 <drac_boy> its a limited express train 01:58:01 <drac_boy> 36 of them built from 1994 01:58:09 <Flygon> In Australia, it's a limited cab train @_@ 01:58:36 <Flygon> Only 36? 01:58:44 <Flygon> Seems low 02:00:53 <drac_boy> well its not low....they have so many different classes ... sometimes pratically not even at least a year apart in build dates 02:00:55 <Flygon> Wouldn't it be most efficient for a company to stick with a single design for 15 years, and then work on a new one? 02:01:18 <Flygon> I used to think the Japanese were like borg 02:01:22 <Flygon> Now I think they're like... 02:01:29 <Flygon> ...not borg :U 02:01:32 <drac_boy> and btw if you want "classic" that seem alike to 50's usa cars .. try this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/JNR_489_Express_Noto.jpg/640px-JNR_489_Express_Noto.jpg 02:01:51 <drac_boy> especially the raised (in forward manner) light housings 02:01:54 <Flygon> Difference is, drac_boy, that last one doesn't look too bad 02:02:57 <drac_boy> and btw flygon believe it or not but if you want ask about the 80-110kph emus with simple flat front ends ... theres at least 60+ different classes of them .. only varying by small comestic details 02:03:29 <Flygon> Oh 02:03:35 <Flygon> That's not weird to me :) 02:03:39 <drac_boy> electrical and seating wise sometimes they do have a big differences tho 02:04:16 <Flygon> http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1049/1345925739_2280abfa80.jpg This'll break 120km/h on good track :) 02:05:03 <drac_boy> ugly robotic face .. and why tampered inward rather than outward? where do all the splattered water go to? :P 02:06:23 <Flygon> (funnily enough, that train was designed after the Hitachi trains... which had a streamlined triangular face. They have nearly the exact same specifications... the only actually meaningful difference is that Comengs have aircons :p) 02:06:52 * Flygon shrug 02:06:55 <Flygon> It's Japan 02:07:00 <Flygon> They did something for a reason 02:07:15 <drac_boy> well the emus I've seen always had a outward curved front of some means 02:07:51 <drac_boy> flygon one more thing before I forget to tell you... 02:07:52 <Flygon> http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1369/1371804691_0645331d32_z.jpg?zz=1 Oh jeeze. This is ugly. 02:08:12 <Flygon> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7587867490_4ce4f2247c_z.jpg It used to look cool and snazzy @_@ 02:08:25 <drac_boy> one of the particular bullet train (dated 1990s or 2000s somewhere) looked normal till you watched it go by trackside and tried to not confuse yourself... 02:09:06 <Flygon> Got a photo? 02:09:09 <Flygon> Also... heh 02:09:15 <Flygon> That flat faced Comeng I showed earlier 02:09:20 <drac_boy> one end of that train had a particular nose shape .. other end was completely different .. more slanted ...as I recall they operated on a tunnels-filled line so the particular rear sculpture was to lessen the wind shockwaves 02:09:32 <Flygon> http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i168/C6H12O6_2006/OriginalModel_1970.jpg It's prototype had a CURVED face O_o 02:09:47 <Flygon> Ah, yes, tunnelboom? 02:10:27 <drac_boy> yeah I think the trains were built to operate mainly in one particular direction so the more slanted nose got the exit end ... less "sucking" of the wind right out of tunnel exit for lack of wording from my head now 02:10:59 <drac_boy> let me see if I can find it 02:17:55 <drac_boy> hm I can't find it but flygon here's a "ugly duckling" for you http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/JRE-TEC-E5_omiya.JPG/640px-JRE-TEC-E5_omiya.JPG 02:17:57 <drac_boy> QUACK! 02:18:07 <Supercheese> hahahahahaha 02:18:26 <Flygon> I've always been puzzled by how that train looks 02:18:28 <Supercheese> I sincerely hope that design was chosen for aerodynamics and not aesthetics 02:18:29 <drac_boy> Supercheese both japan and spain have highspeed emu that look like a duck ... enough said! 02:18:44 <Supercheese> I thought emus looked more like ostriches ;) 02:18:45 <drac_boy> supercheese..of course it was...the relationship to animals was NOT intentional 02:18:52 <drac_boy> :p 02:18:57 <Flygon> Then again, MU trains here never have big noses 02:19:08 <drac_boy> flygon thats only because they're not running *very fast* :P 02:19:26 <Flygon> The Comeng I showed broke 120 :p 02:19:41 <Flygon> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/CityRail-Tangara-T33-ext.jpg And this's broke 130 :D 02:19:42 <drac_boy> try 280-300kph :P 02:20:05 <drac_boy> actually that E5 was designed for 320 but only ran 300 apparently 02:20:10 <drac_boy> still very fast 02:20:33 <Flygon> Apperantly the ducknose train in Japan doesn't go over 300km/h due to wear on the overhead wires 02:20:52 <drac_boy> supercheese....I think they refer it to as a duck .. because they like to joke about quacking .. I dunno if ostriches really make any sounds anyway :) 02:21:11 <Flygon> Here, the wires get worn out before the poles do. They need to be that thick :p 02:21:53 <Flygon> (not that this stops the occasional pantograph-getting-stuck-in-wire in the middle of the busiest junctions in the system...) 02:22:12 <drac_boy> heres the earlier 280kph one http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/JR_Central_Shinkansen_700.jpg/640px-JR_Central_Shinkansen_700.jpg 02:22:16 <drac_boy> still a duck no less 02:22:45 <drac_boy> you can't see it because of the shiny white paintjob but the nose is wider than the cab's front 02:23:21 <drac_boy> the E5 makes it a lot more obvious tho :) 02:24:15 <Flygon> Heh 02:25:00 <drac_boy> I have actually thought about drawing an emu locomotive in the style of a 'ugly duckling' but then thought again ... I'll probably never be able to use it anyway 02:25:36 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@177.16.120.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:10 <Flygon> Isn't the 280km/h one in the 2CC set? 02:28:07 <drac_boy> supercheese btw its more of an unoffical naming but you want to know what a "hammerhead" diesel locomotive is? :P 02:30:22 <drac_boy> how about you flygon? :) 02:30:41 <Flygon> Well 02:30:44 <Flygon> We lack hammerheads 02:30:49 <Flygon> But we do have dogbones :p 02:31:46 <drac_boy> side view http://www.highlandsstationllc.com/images/Calloway/SOU3134SPENCER1972.JPG and from front http://www.cincyrails.com/NSvintage/RML-SOU-3135-01.jpg .. they almost always ran long hood first .. plus the flared top was from the extra wide radiators 02:32:00 <drac_boy> so they were nicknamed after the hammerhead shark which did have some resemble :) 02:32:28 * drac_boy wonders if supercheese would have any remark to that 02:33:23 <Supercheese> Hammerheads are more horizontal... 02:33:49 <drac_boy> well.. don't ask me .. I didn't make up the names :P 02:35:01 <drac_boy> and why did they call this a Big Boy anyway? http://www.trainweb.org/jlsrr/bigboy/historical-pictures/full-pictures/up4015.jpg 02:35:08 <drac_boy> like I mean .. why a Boy??? :P 02:35:37 <drac_boy> weirdly enough the slight smaller version of it (3+3 coupled rather than 4+4) was sometimes called Big Sister ... eh 02:37:12 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 02:37:25 <drac_boy> at least interestingly the 4-4-2 being called Atlantic apparently had to do with Atlantic City. so that one isn't hard to understand 02:40:25 <drac_boy> flygon about dogbones....I know its not same thing but I still don't understand the term 'to dogbag it' 02:40:48 <drac_boy> the food is not for dog at all .. and paper bags (or styrofoam containers) have nothing to do with dogs neither ... confuses me a bit 02:40:50 <Flygon> Sorry for any delays 02:41:02 <Flygon> Currently sorting out some important irl stuff 02:56:42 *** Elukka 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[~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:18:29 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-048-083.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:18:38 <Pikka> it's an andythenorth, amongst others 08:18:43 <andythenorth> :o 08:18:46 <andythenorth> a Pikka 08:18:51 <andythenorth> must be christmas 08:18:55 <andythenorth> or the end of the world 08:18:58 <andythenorth> all souls reunited 08:19:00 <Pikka> or all three 08:19:12 <andythenorth> that too 08:19:17 <Supercheese> The eschaton is upon us 08:19:19 <andythenorth> you have been....away? 08:19:32 <Pikka> not terribly 08:19:37 <Pikka> I just frightened myself rather badly 08:19:46 <andythenorth> o_O 08:19:54 <Pikka> got a bit punchy with autoreplace and had to go through my entire grf 08:20:09 <Pikka> and work out which 16s were supposed to be 16s and which were supposed to be 0as :) 08:20:24 <andythenorth> oh :) 08:20:37 <Pikka> hopefully I fixed them all 08:20:42 <andythenorth> I hope so too 08:20:47 <andythenorth> my truck set is still....stuck :P 08:20:57 <Pikka> well 08:21:02 <Pikka> that would be the lack of roadtypes :) 08:21:07 <andythenorth> oh tath 08:21:09 <andythenorth> that * 08:21:14 <andythenorth> how is upside down land? 08:21:22 <andythenorth> which bit are you in? 08:21:22 <Pikka> bit warm 08:21:26 <Pikka> the warm bit 08:21:28 <andythenorth> QLD? 08:21:31 <Pikka> yes 08:21:44 <andythenorth> yeah, I have "business interests" in Brisbane now 08:21:49 <andythenorth> so I get weather reports 08:22:00 <Pikka> what's her name? 08:22:09 <andythenorth> he 08:22:10 <andythenorth> no 08:22:34 <andythenorth> actual people doing actual work 08:22:41 <Pikka> how unusual 08:22:41 <andythenorth> apparently it is toasty in Brisbane 08:22:54 <Pikka> more steamy than toasty 08:23:09 <Pikka> you have to go inland for toasty 08:23:18 <andythenorth> meanwhile....we invented this thing called GameScripts 08:23:26 <andythenorth> and then this thing called 'Cargo Goal Challenges' 08:23:31 <andythenorth> give or take the capital letters 08:23:36 <andythenorth> they're pretty fun 08:23:42 <Pikka> hmm :) 08:24:02 <andythenorth> totally destroys any attempt to make well-balanced grfs covering 200 years of gameplay :P 08:24:31 <Pikka> hmm :) 08:24:32 <andythenorth> but definitely fun 08:24:36 <Pikka> does it though 08:24:44 <andythenorth> we play for about 2 hours on multiplayer 08:25:03 <Pikka> :) 08:25:09 <andythenorth> in other news, DanMacK reappeared 08:25:16 <andythenorth> and drew a crapload of stuff for me 08:25:20 <Pikka> hooray 08:25:22 <Pikka> trucks? 08:25:26 <andythenorth> ships, industries 08:25:29 <andythenorth> can't keep up :P 08:25:33 <Pikka> industries eh 08:25:36 <andythenorth> you might want to pillage some for TAI 08:25:44 <Pikka> I might... 08:26:07 <Pikka> although it's more the coding that's holding up TaI, I don't plan adding too many more industries 08:26:28 <Pikka> the main thing is altering production for the 19th century 08:26:33 <andythenorth> yeah, that 08:26:41 <andythenorth> let me know if you solve it :P 08:29:20 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:29:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:34:13 <andythenorth> right, time to work 08:34:20 <andythenorth> bonjour pikka, see you next time 08:34:24 <Pikka> have fun 08:34:55 <andythenorth> yes 08:34:59 <andythenorth> bye 08:35:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:36:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:44:58 <Eddi|zuHause> time for my daily dose of mineral oils 08:54:16 <__ln___> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/maya?p0=101 09:08:07 <peter1138> oh you 09:08:17 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-66-86.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:08:36 <peter1138> why helsinki time? heh 09:09:16 <peter1138> oh cos that's what you set 09:09:28 <peter1138> crazy fins 09:13:24 *** 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explain how action14 compatibility works in detail ;-) 10:07:37 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:52 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:08:52 <Eddi|zuHause> why am i the go-to guy when people really want to say "your coding skills suck" :p 10:09:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A190DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:59 <planetmaker> :D 10:13:12 *** lucaspiller_ [uid2039@id-2039.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 10:15:51 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:04 <murr4y> Eddi|zuHause: who do you think the go-to guy should be? :p 10:27:34 <Alberth> someone, of course! 10:47:57 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50:17 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:51:08 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@pD9EB5916.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:04:00 <__ln___> 7 minutes! 11:04:12 <peter1138> doooooooooooooooom 11:06:45 <Pikka> it just started bucketing down rain here 11:07:12 <Eddi|zuHause> rain... in australia? 11:07:28 <Eddi|zuHause> the world is sure gonna end now! 11:10:00 <__ln___> 1 minute! 11:11:02 <__ln___> There's a bug. Can we return it and get a full refund? 11:18:10 <peter1138> no your warranty's over 11:28:01 <Terkhen> hello :) 11:42:25 <Pikka> boo 11:42:51 <Pikka> why can't escape sequences be used for negative numbers? :) 11:42:53 <peter1138> eek 11:43:08 <peter1138> they don't exist 11:43:38 <Pikka> pretend negative numbers! 11:43:56 <Pikka> why can't I escape FE as \b-2? :) 11:44:35 <Eddi|zuHause> you can use NML :) 11:44:39 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:44:47 <Pikka> NML is for people 11:51:48 <Alberth> and escape sequences are not for people? :) 11:52:12 <Flygon> Eddi: Come to Melbourne 11:52:34 <Flygon> Rains like bombs over the Middle East constantly 11:52:54 <Flygon> One of three things we're known for 11:53:17 <Flygon> The other two being Trams and being founded by a name with the surname 'Batman' 11:53:58 <Pikka> also for supposedly being the best place to make a movie about the end of the world 11:54:50 <Pikka> although apparently she didn't actually say that 11:55:22 <Flygon> Pikka: Which one? 11:55:38 <Flygon> I just remember it being the stupidest place to film Ghost Rider 11:56:17 <Pikka> ava gardner, on the beach 12:01:11 <Flygon> Ava Gardner? 12:01:13 <Flygon> Never heard of it 12:01:14 <Flygon> Sorry 12:12:21 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:25:29 <Alberth> planetmaker: don't you need a decompressor to inflate wagons? 12:28:02 <planetmaker> nah. I just pull the plug 12:28:41 <planetmaker> like... pffffftt.... ;-) 12:38:16 <Alberth> :) 12:41:57 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:55:26 <Flygon> Alberth: All you need is your own mouth! Give it a blow job! 12:55:36 <Flygon> ...wait, that came out wrong :B 13:10:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i get the impression that it came out just the same way you intended it... 13:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ... so i guess getting the calendar version with the 3 extra doors was the right call :) 13:16:52 <Flygon> 3 extra doors? 13:17:05 <Flygon> They make trains with calenders in them? 13:17:15 <Flygon> ...because that would actually be really convenient 13:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause> you know, there's this german tradition in the christmas time to have a calendar with 24 doors, usually with a small piece of chocolate behind it 13:18:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and allegedly they sold some versions with only 21 doors this year, because, you know... 13:19:00 <Eddi|zuHause> (german christmas starts on the 24th, christmas eve) 13:19:51 <Flygon> Ooooooooooooh 13:20:03 <Flygon> Those things 13:20:10 <Flygon> It's somewhat of a tradition here, too 13:20:51 <Flygon> But I'd rather just buy good Chocolate :P 13:21:27 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. but a 100g bar of chocolate is gone in a minute 13:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause> this 75g of chocolate is lasting you 24 days :) 13:21:44 <peter1138> german tradition? heh 13:21:50 <peter1138> typical advent calendar... 13:22:11 <Flygon> Then I'll buy a 500g bag of Maltesers 13:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: i think it was invented by a german 13:22:34 <__ln___> jesus wasn't a german 13:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause> jesus neither invented christmas, nor the christmas calendar :) 13:23:23 <Flygon> Neither was Jesus European 13:23:42 <Flygon> But nearly every post-1250 painting of him depicts him as otherwise :p 13:24:25 <Eddi|zuHause> Flygon: and St. Nicolaus didn't wear a red robe either... 13:24:31 <Flygon> Indeed 13:25:30 <peter1138> christmas is about spending stupid money on stupid gifts so that retailers make a profit 13:25:45 <peter1138> no need to bring religion into it 13:25:59 *** rhaus [~rhaus@cpe-173-88-29-92.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:28:35 <Rubidium> oh... war on christmas?!? ;) 13:29:01 *** rhaus [~rhaus@cpe-173-88-29-92.columbus.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 13:29:03 <Flygon> peter: Depends 13:29:22 <Flygon> I got 4 gifts 13:29:26 <Flygon> As in, brought 13:29:45 <Flygon> 45 Star Trek VHS tapes, 4GB of RAM, and 2 shirts 13:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause> VHS!!! 13:30:03 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.132.110.199] has joined #openttd 13:30:05 <peter1138> not bought? 13:30:10 <Eddi|zuHause> welcome to the 80s! 13:30:41 <Flygon> This sent me broke, despite having the RAM as a leftover from an upgrade, the two shirts costing , and the VHS tapes being bargined down from to at the Salvation Army Op Shop :p 13:30:42 <Eddi|zuHause> (actually we didn't have any VHS in the 80s) 13:30:45 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:01 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 13:31:03 <Flygon> 0 a fortnight, 0 of that going to board :D 13:31:14 <peter1138> but yeah... vhs? wtf? 13:31:29 <Flygon> VHS boxes look really cool 13:31:38 <Flygon> And they didn't have Voyager DVD's 13:31:54 <peter1138> s/cool/big/ 13:32:11 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@pD9EB5916.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 13:33:11 <Flygon> peter: Let's put it this way 13:33:15 <Flygon> What looks more impressive? 13:33:21 <Flygon> Big boxes of VHS tapes 13:33:27 <Flygon> Or barely visible DVD cases? :P 13:33:51 <peter1138> AVI files on a HDD 13:33:52 <Eddi|zuHause> ... or put everything on a single HDD, and have space leftover? 13:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause> avis are so '00s :) 13:34:58 <Eddi|zuHause> it's usually mp4s or mkvs nowadays :) 13:37:00 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, if you leave them as FLVs it's too obvious you just ripped them from Youtube. 13:37:36 <Eddi|zuHause> you can get mp4's from youtube, you know... 13:37:51 <Eddi|zuHause> just pass -f18 to youtube-dl 13:41:58 <Prof_Frink> That's a whole 4 extra keystrokes. 13:42:30 <Flygon> mkv > mp4 13:42:32 <Flygon> imho 13:42:57 <peter1138> last time i was downloading videos divx/xvid was all the rage 13:43:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Prof_Frink: they invented aliases for that... :p 13:45:45 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 13:54:50 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:29 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:11:25 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:10 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-93-108.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:14:55 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:16:00 <FLHerne> I change 1 line of english.txt, and make decides to rebuild *everything*? :-( 14:16:28 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 14:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause> practically every file "depends" on english.txt, there is no more finegrained measure 14:17:36 * FLHerne wishes it was a bit more intelligent :P 14:18:05 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 14:18:10 <FLHerne> Now I have to wait 25mins while it compiles it all :P 14:19:04 <Alberth> install a compiler cache :) 14:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause> use -j6 :) 14:20:19 <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: Not enough cores/threads :P 14:21:05 <FLHerne> compiler cache looks interesting 14:41:46 <Pikka> https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=166593 14:42:43 <FLHerne> Pikka: Yay! 14:42:54 <Pikka> you know how I said the bug with 4C didn't crash UKRS2? turns out it does. :) So I'm waiting on the next nightly to check it's absolutely fixed before I release anything. 14:43:26 <FLHerne> That Banker will be perfect for my idiotic mountain :-) 14:43:48 <FLHerne> Oh, and a Garratt? :O 14:43:50 <Pikka> it's not /that/ good :P only 200kN or so 14:43:57 <Pikka> yes, you can thank scuddles for both those locos 14:45:20 <FLHerne> Pikka: I have triple-headed 0-8-0s at the moment :-) 14:45:38 <FLHerne> I suspect at least one of those will be an improvement :P 14:45:45 <Pikka> you'll prbably need at least double headed bankers, then 14:46:37 <FLHerne> That might look cool. How about a Garratt? 14:46:54 <FLHerne> Oh, there's a 442 as well... 14:47:07 * FLHerne was just getting over his TTD-addiction :P 14:47:42 <Eddi|zuHause> you NEVER get over an addiction 14:50:44 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51:27 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:44 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 14:56:29 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [] 14:56:35 <FLHerne> Pikka: Does this version have FIRS-compatibility? 14:56:50 <Pikka> did previous versions not? 14:57:38 <FLHerne> There were oddities such as Presflos carrying Fish but not Building Supplies :P 14:57:56 <FLHerne> For cement tanks, I found that a little odd :-/ 14:58:28 <FLHerne> Actually, it might have been the polybulks that carried fish 14:58:29 <Rubidium> FLHerne: it only recompiles files that include the string names. If you change the text of a string nothing should be recompiled (unless you change the parameters). It has to recompile all those files because the StringID might have changed 14:58:38 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:05 <Rubidium> e.g. the squirrel code is not recompiled 14:59:12 <FLHerne> Rubidium: That makes sense 14:59:16 <Rubidium> ... ever for string changes 15:01:08 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 15:02:28 <Pikka> FLHerne, there's only so much room in a CTT, so really it comes down to cargo classes. 15:02:31 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [] 15:03:39 <FLHerne> Pikka: Ah. Makes sense that way then. Still a bit confusing in-game :P 15:04:21 <Pikka> perhaps. maybe you should talk to andy about his classes. ;) 15:04:48 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 15:05:11 <Pikka> goodnight wallyweb 15:05:14 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-70-16.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:11:04 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:12:21 *** __ln___ is now known as __ln__ 15:15:03 <FLHerne> Is 'apply patch to latest version, apply rejected hunks to the most similar bit of code, compile, see what breaks, tweak' a sane way to bump patches? :P 15:21:20 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 15:24:18 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [] 15:27:51 <Alberth> depends on what "see what breaks" means. If you only check for compiler errors, your method will fail 15:29:12 <FLHerne> I already found that out. It now encompasses 'does the settings window for that feature work', 'does that feature work ingame', and 'can I save and reload a game' 15:29:49 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 15:31:39 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:33:38 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [] 15:34:06 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@pD9EB5916.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:51 <Belugas> hello 15:38:29 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 15:40:21 <Alberth> hello 15:40:41 <Belugas> Mister A! 15:42:11 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@pD9EB5916.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:45:01 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:45:10 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@pD9EB58D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:51:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:53:30 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:55:54 <Eddi|zuHause> http://i.imgur.com/EmbPP.jpg 15:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5F94.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:16:14 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:21:15 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:07 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:31:58 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:08 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 17:05:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A190DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:39 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:43:33 <oskari89> Is here somebody who could do NML-coding and transfering some sprites to DevZone? 17:43:52 <oskari89> And some folders to DevZone, too. 17:44:07 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 17:44:54 <oskari89> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/ 17:46:56 <oskari89> http://users.tt-forums.net/finnish/table/ftssteam.html There's some sprites there, and on Diesel/DMU, Electric/EMU, Coaches and Wagons category as well. 17:47:20 <oskari89> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository 17:48:10 <oskari89> There should be folder for graphics (and sounds as well) 17:51:31 <oskari89> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1709/NewGRF_Development_Guide_for_Windows_Users_1.0.0.pdf 17:51:40 <oskari89> That is a little too complicated for me :P 17:55:30 <FLHerne> oskari89: You could just install Linux properly, and skip some of the mess :P 17:57:24 <Alberth> why do you need a virtual Linux environment? 17:58:02 <oskari89> I don't know :P 17:58:39 <oskari89> Oh, but no problem, i think that i may handle this :) 17:58:48 <Alberth> true, a Linux environment is much easier to make it work, but imho it is a much bigger gun than needed 17:59:11 *** Hyronymus[NSF] [~chatzilla@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:59:23 <Alberth> ie nml and tortoisehg work fine in Windows 17:59:56 <Alberth> (for as far as anything can work 'fine' at a system not aimed at development :p ) 18:02:07 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:03:26 *** Toawa [~chatzilla@99-105-127-217.uvs.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:35 *** Toawa [~chatzilla@99-105-127-217.uvs.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 18:09:02 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:58 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.79.115] has joined #openttd 18:17:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6177.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:26:07 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:27:19 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:54 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 18:36:39 *** pjpe [ae5f48b7@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:42:16 *** pjpe [ae5f48b7@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24835 trunk/src/lang/simplified_chinese.txt (2012-12-21 18:45:08 UTC) 18:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:17 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 47 changes by chenwt0315 18:48:12 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r24836 trunk/src/elrail.cpp (2012-12-21 18:51:06 UTC) 18:51:16 <DorpsGek> -Feature(ette): Improve pylon placement around station tiles that display neither pylons nor catenary. 18:51:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r24837 trunk/src/elrail.cpp (2012-12-21 18:51:10 UTC) 18:51:20 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Don't consider blocked rail station tiles that display wires as non-reachable for masking out unnecessary catenary wires. 18:57:48 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.132.110.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:59 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.132.110.199] has joined #openttd 18:58:13 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:03:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:05:54 *** Hyronymus[NSF] [~chatzilla@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 19:15:31 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.132.110.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:05 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:54 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 19:35:04 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [] 19:40:17 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:41:32 <Wolf01> hello 19:42:52 <Alberth> o/ 19:52:25 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:56:38 <Sacro> 19:57:29 <Wolf01> that's magic :o 19:57:41 <Wolf01> 19:57:48 <Wolf01> mine is shorter 20:00:23 <frosch123> Wolf01: 1mm per commit? 20:01:08 <Wolf01> I don't get it 20:18:11 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 20:46:56 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 20:57:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-151.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:03:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-151.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:06:04 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.79.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:18:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5F94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:25:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-151.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:36:58 <andythenorth> lo 21:37:24 <Eddi|zuHause> hi 21:38:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-167-47-151.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:39:39 *** pjpe [ae5f48b7@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:43 *** pjpe [ae5f48b7@ircip4.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 22:12:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 22:14:20 <oskari89> @seen DanMacK 22:14:20 <DorpsGek> oskari89: DanMacK was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey andy 22:18:26 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:23:21 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-70-16.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:33:04 <Terkhen> good night 22:45:25 <Pikka> good night Terkhen 22:53:24 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:01 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@pD9EB58D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:04:51 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:07 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable105.141-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 23:14:29 <drac_boy> hi 23:15:14 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.71.208] has joined #openttd 23:25:08 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:35:25 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:44:01 <Wolf01> 'night 23:44:04 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:48:50 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:49:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:57:13 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1B577.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd