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Log for #openttd on 21st February 2013:
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00:50:39  <MinchinWeb> why is it that when unit settings are shown in imperial, TE is still measued in kN?
00:51:47  <peter1138> because nobody could be bothered with lbf
00:53:00  <peter1138> also note that mass is also given in tonnes
00:53:06  <peter1138> which is also metric
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01:23:50  <MinchinWeb> it seems we also ignore the fact that the conversion from mass to weight should use 9.81 instead of 10...
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01:38:44  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but people complain when the km/h-mph conversion is 0.1% off
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02:07:50  <MinchinWeb> Maybe someone here understand this better than I... I have an engine: 103t, 750hp, TE=309kN  and I'm trying to figure out how fast it will go
02:08:58  <MinchinWeb> I found the formula  S = (375 x HP) / T.E. (lbs.)  where S is speed in mph, HP is horsepower, and T.E. is tractive effort in lbs
02:09:16  <MinchinWeb> by that I get a speed of 4mph... but in-game it tops out at 53mph
02:09:30  <MinchinWeb> what am I missing here?
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06:23:55  <MinchinWeb> this is the line I missed -> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Train_properties <- "air_drag_coefficient: The default value is approximately (8 / max_speed), with max_speed in km/h, clamped to the range 0.004 .. 0.75."
06:24:40  <MinchinWeb> so setting the air drag coefficient from 0.7 to 0.049 and everything works the way I expected!!
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09:17:23  <__ln__> hello humans, dwarves, half-elven and orcs.
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09:43:47  <Eddi|zuHause> you certainly missed the wizards
09:50:10  <__ln__> i intentionally left out some groups to get them to stand up and demand their rights
09:50:45  <andythenorth> wizards of oz
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11:21:50  <jonty-comp> OH NOES
11:22:01  <jonty-comp> only one week left for the Transport Tycoon Hall of Fame entries
11:31:47  <Pikka> jonty-comp: set up a bot to nominate every account on the forum.
11:33:16  <peter1138> hmm, anyone use an xmpp client on windows?
11:33:28  <jonty-comp> INSERT INTO private_messages (to,from,message) VALUES ('simuscape team',(SELECT username, weburl FROM users));
11:34:02  <peter1138> mind you i suppose windows users don't give a shit about crap like skype
11:34:11  <jonty-comp> skype is xmpp?
11:34:14  <peter1138> no
11:35:01  <__ln__> jonty-comp: that subselect can't be of compatible type, can it?
11:35:24  <jonty-comp> i wasn't really thinking about it :p
11:37:33  <dihedral> oi
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11:45:53  <peter1138> hmm
12:03:06  <michi_cc> peter1138: Pidgin?
12:18:57  <dihedral> i did not know you had a cloak :-P
12:19:36  <peter1138> michi_cc, yeah seems reasonable
12:19:38  <peter1138> dihedral?
12:19:51  <dihedral> @###.user.oftc.net
12:20:06  <peter1138> what's that?
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12:20:46  <peter1138> hmm
12:21:01  <dihedral> apparently you did not know either :-P
12:21:06  <peter1138> nope
12:21:15  <dihedral> interesting
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14:52:03  <__ln__> http://www.starfieldsoftware.co.uk/Games/DOS/DOS-Screenshot-Challenge.aspx
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15:08:56  <DanMacK> Hey all
15:09:36  <Belugas> HEllo
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18:40:27  <Terkhen> hello
18:40:59  <frosch123> hola
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19:32:35  <Wolf01> hello
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19:35:27  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25034 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-02-21 18:45:18 UTC)
19:35:28  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:35:29  <DorpsGek> croatian - 4 changes by VoyagerOne
19:35:30  <DorpsGek> polish - 2 changes by wojteks86
19:35:31  <DorpsGek> swedish - 38 changes by Joel_A
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19:58:03  <peter1138> quiet
19:58:43  <jonty-comp> quite
20:00:33  <peter1138> quite quiet
20:03:33  <Belugas> you can almost hear the moons dancing
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20:43:47  <Alberth> moin
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22:14:04  <frosch123> night
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22:26:17  <LordAro> heyo
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22:31:48  <Wolf01> 'night all
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23:07:15  <Bad_Brett> hello there
23:07:49  <Supercheese> Buenos dias
23:07:56  <Bad_Brett> supercheese!!!
23:08:14  <Supercheese> Ooh, 3 exclamation marks
23:08:25  <Bad_Brett> oh yes
23:08:33  <Bad_Brett> always one or three
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23:09:01  <Bad_Brett> so what are you up to?
23:09:12  <Supercheese> homework for university courses
23:09:30  <Supercheese> Computational fluid dynamics, heat transfer
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23:11:37  <Bad_Brett> oh man that sucks
23:12:14  <Bad_Brett> so boring
23:12:35  <Bad_Brett> haha
23:13:16  <Supercheese> well I like it better than literature, rhetoric, and the like
23:13:40  <Bad_Brett> if you put it that way...
23:13:49  <Supercheese> not as much fun as making newgrfs, of course :P
23:15:30  <Bad_Brett> that's why i picked product realization... it was a bit like creating real world newgrfs :)
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23:16:42  <Bad_Brett> i still had to learn those boring thermodynamics though
23:16:46  <Bad_Brett> hehe
23:16:54  <Supercheese> Thermo was actually fun
23:17:01  <Supercheese> I had an awesome professor, though
23:17:54  <Bad_Brett> i woudln't know... don't think i ever met him :P
23:18:04  <Bad_Brett> my professor that is
23:19:11  <Bad_Brett> i think I went to 1/2 lecture during the entire course... i left after the first 45 minuters in rage because there weren't enough seats available :P
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23:25:36  <Bad_Brett> a question to the eye-candy expert: have you had any problems with the game crashing when you add TONS of animations?
23:26:18  <Supercheese> hmm, define tons
23:26:26  <Supercheese> I've run a few dozen seagulls without issue
23:26:30  <Bad_Brett> hundreds
23:26:39  <Supercheese> I don't think I've tested hundreds
23:26:46  <Supercheese> I can do that now
23:27:10  <Bad_Brett> no no, focus on your homework
23:27:29  <Supercheese> bah
23:27:51  <Bad_Brett> :)
23:27:59  <Supercheese> hahaha, it's so loud
23:28:05  <Supercheese> seagulls caw caw cawing like mad
23:29:08  <Supercheese> Very Hitchcock-ian
23:29:14  <Supercheese> filled the screen with seagulls
23:29:46  <Supercheese> seems to be holding up just fine
23:31:37  <Bad_Brett> hahaha
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23:32:52  <Bad_Brett> i think i set the refresh_multiplier = 1 and triggered a 32bpp animation on basically every single house on the map when it crashed
23:33:03  <Bad_Brett> it was more of a failed experiment i guess :p
23:33:11  <Supercheese> Yeah, that sounds more demanding than just lots of seagulls
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23:34:51  <Bad_Brett> not to mention the cacaphony of hammers the other day... far worse than some screaming birds
23:34:55  <Bad_Brett> :P
23:39:02  <Eddi|zuHause> <Bad_Brett> always one or three <-- unless it's an iGRF
23:39:13  <planetmaker> Bad_Brett, as usual with crashes: open a ticket, provide the necessary files and we can see why...
23:40:26  <Bad_Brett> alright, I will do that the next time!
23:40:37  <planetmaker> why next?
23:40:48  <planetmaker> you don't want this crash seen fixed which you got?
23:41:09  <Terkhen> good night
23:45:49  <Bad_Brett> i thought you could only see the log from the most recent crash... unfortunately i crashed the game again after that because i accidently used stereo sound effects
23:47:18  <planetmaker> unless you use modified OpenTTD... isn't that worth reporting either?
23:49:34  <Bad_Brett> well... maybe. i guess i took for granted that this was a known issue since the documentation clearly states that all wav files must be in mono
23:50:09  <Supercheese> I think the philosophy is still "report every time unmodified OTTD crashes"
23:50:22  <Supercheese> unless you find an identical crash report, of course
23:50:32  <Supercheese> has already been reported*
23:50:41  <Eddi|zuHause> you can also report modified openttd crashing, but people may go mad :p
23:50:48  <Supercheese> hehe
23:51:20  <Supercheese> Unmodified OTTD crashes so infrequently it's a big-ish deal when it does
23:51:23  <planetmaker> hehe :-)
23:51:32  <Bad_Brett> well i have eddi's extra movement patch applied, does that matter?
23:51:38  <planetmaker> yes. It's not supposed to crash under whatever circumstances
23:51:43  <Supercheese> patchpacks, well... crashes are not uncommon :P
23:51:53  <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: i don't think it should :)
23:51:58  <planetmaker> "movement patch"?
23:52:05  <Supercheese> enhanced substeps
23:52:11  <Supercheese> 4x zoom smoother motion
23:52:37  <Eddi|zuHause> it's a one-liner opening the openttd "progress" variable to newgrfs
23:53:39  <Eddi|zuHause> it's documented in the "inofficial var 80+ specs", but some people think it goes too deep into the internals or something
23:53:48  <Eddi|zuHause> it's on flyspray somewhere
23:54:29  <planetmaker> I see... likely unrelated to either
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23:55:09  <Bad_Brett> i think so to
23:55:12  <Bad_Brett> too
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23:56:51  <kausara> hi all
23:57:44  <Bad_Brett> hi kausara
23:58:51  <kausara> hw 'r u?
23:59:27  <planetmaker> hi. But I have strong difficulties to decipher l33t speak. /me points at topic

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