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00:02:29 <wolfmitchell> :< 00:02:43 <wolfmitchell> it seems like all the buttons on top got huge all of a sidden 00:02:46 <wolfmitchell> *sudden 00:16:23 <Eddi|zuHause> that happens if you activate grfs that you don't read what they're doing 00:16:53 <Ristovski> gtg, see ya 00:17:04 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:17 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 00:29:03 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:31:29 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:33:38 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-174-160.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:37:35 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:38:17 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:40:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:11 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d854db9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 00:56:09 *** Celestar_ [~vici@mnch-5d859409.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:56 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:48:31 *** glx is now known as Guest1010 01:48:31 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:48:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 01:48:59 <wolfmitchell> How would I make openttd not disconnect from the server if it takes 300+ ticks to download a map? 01:49:31 <wolfmitchell> erm 01:49:35 <wolfmitchell> now it is doing 1000 01:50:44 <wolfmitchell> I can't even connect to my own server 01:53:40 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 01:54:44 *** Guest1010 [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause> there are timeout settings in the cfg 02:25:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40:55 <wolfmitchell> also, how can I use fast forward on a dedicated server? 02:40:58 <wolfmitchell> I don't see a command for it 02:51:50 *** HexDecimal [~4b796c65@99-196-225-192.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #openttd 02:52:00 *** HexDecimal [~4b796c65@99-196-225-192.cust.wildblue.net] has left #openttd [] 03:06:23 <Eddi|zuHause> you can't 03:16:20 *** St3f [~Anonymous@146.185.24.18] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16:31 *** St3f [~Anonymous@146.185.24.18] has joined #openttd 03:22:55 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-248-37.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 03:28:08 *** xT2 [~ST2@188.250.229.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:28:08 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 03:37:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD531B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:40:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD531B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:00:55 *** Biolunar__ [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f610.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:08:05 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4d08e9b4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:19:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.170.28] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:20:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD531B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:20:47 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:21:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.170.28] has joined #openttd 04:21:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD531B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22:01 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:496b:131a:4815:bef5] has joined #openttd 04:22:02 *** glx is now known as Guest1029 04:22:02 *** glx_ is now known as glx 04:25:54 *** Guest1029 [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:36:07 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 06:09:50 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 06:46:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD531B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 06:46:17 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD5EFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:13:03 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:32:15 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 07:44:33 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47:44 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-156-148.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:50:47 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-156-148.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 08:07:37 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 08:15:11 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:26:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:41:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:43:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 08:51:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:54:20 <andythenorth> Supercheese: any comments on FIRS Basic Tropic? 09:08:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:11:46 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]] 09:21:56 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:32:44 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32:59 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 09:39:35 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 09:42:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:04:07 <andythenorth> hrrrrr 10:04:13 <andythenorth> who uses green map colours? :o 10:04:21 <andythenorth> both of them have terrible contrast 10:13:29 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:13:45 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:17:39 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 10:30:37 *** Biolunar__ [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f610.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 10:31:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:36:27 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:48 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:48:32 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 10:52:05 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:52:35 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 10:56:50 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has joined #openttd 10:59:36 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:59:38 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 11:00:04 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:01:16 <peter1138> you have terrible contrast 11:01:57 <andythenorth> I do 11:02:04 <andythenorth> it's true 11:02:36 <andythenorth> peter1138: how about flat docks eh? 11:02:58 <andythenorth> autoslope them 11:03:13 <andythenorth> if on a coast tile, build with foundations, otherwise build flat 11:04:02 <peter1138> go for it 11:04:44 <andythenorth> hm 11:04:54 <andythenorth> if there were newgrf ports, could do it :P 11:05:10 <andythenorth> if I wasn't a lazy arse, I could learn how to program OTTD 11:06:51 <peter1138> do it 11:16:11 <V453000> omg I made a serious post in the 2.0 thread 11:16:13 <V453000> ._. 11:16:24 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:16:30 <V453000> unheard of 11:19:11 <Eddi|zuHause> how dare you 11:19:29 <V453000> yeah, something is wrong today 11:22:49 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08eb48.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:22:54 <andythenorth> sky must be falling 11:23:27 <goodger> 2.0 goal: clone railroad tycoon, but without that "cannot delete this piece of track" BS 11:23:48 <V453000> the whole thread is hopeless goodger :) 11:23:58 <andythenorth> it's awesome 11:25:39 <V453000> for trolls from the north :P 11:34:00 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:15 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 11:44:57 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 11:49:26 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:53:08 <andythenorth> that's new FIRS done 11:53:57 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: [><]] 12:09:20 *** kero [~keikoz@131.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 12:13:14 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:28:47 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-33-186.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:29:17 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34:00 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:42:21 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:59:54 <V453000> andythenorth: you are large friends with wallyweb arent you 13:00:13 <V453000> seems to me like anything you say he responds with something that makes barely any sense 13:05:13 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d854db9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23:23 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-28-224.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:23:34 <Pikka> andythenorth: I was just working out the trams for hoqvs 13:23:46 <Pikka> but then I remembered that trams are dreadful, so I got rid of them 13:24:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i won't be using hoqvs then 13:24:56 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 13:24:56 *** George is now known as Guest1072 13:24:56 *** George|2 is now known as George 13:25:36 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:10 *** Guest1072 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:05 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 13:39:32 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:46:39 <kero> Please, is there a way to know the number of cities on a map, without counting them manually in the "town directory" ? (same for industries) 13:55:16 <dihedral> does the list not mention in the title how many entries are listed? 14:04:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember that i missed that information as well 14:04:54 <Pinkbeast> I certainly don't know of any way to do it :-( 14:06:23 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@thoreau.guilhem.org] has joined #openttd 14:06:28 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-28-224.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:13:44 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-28-224.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:53 <andythenorth> oh he's gone 14:16:57 <andythenorth> hello Pokka 14:17:11 <Pokka> yes he has 14:17:13 *** Pokka is now known as Pikka 14:17:46 <Pikka> anyway, hoqvs 14:17:47 <Pikka> 12 vehicles 14:17:55 <andythenorth> winna 14:17:57 <andythenorth> no trams? 14:18:02 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:10 <Pikka> 4 each of double decker buses, coaches, liltrucks and semi trailers 14:18:26 <andythenorth> buses :P 14:18:26 <andythenorth> urgh 14:18:45 <andythenorth> also I did a naughty thing this morning 14:19:09 <Pikka> buses are high capacity, fast loading, slow. coaches are low(er) capacity, slow(er) loading, fast(er). 14:19:11 <Pikka> did you now 14:19:23 *** MinchinWeb [~47d52d4f@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:20:25 <andythenorth> changed FIRS clay to covered 14:20:32 <andythenorth> so I can have clay hoods in UKRS 2 and crap 14:20:48 <andythenorth> I made a Temperate Basic economy, it's kind of cornwall and south wales 14:20:55 <andythenorth> works well with UKRS 2 14:21:42 <Pikka> coolbeans 14:23:24 <andythenorth> 'but zomg, I just broke lots of vehicle sets' :P 14:23:28 <andythenorth> yeah, right 14:23:38 <andythenorth> no trams because they shouldn't be encouraged? 14:23:43 <andythenorth> or because it's crappy gameplay? 14:24:23 <Pikka> both, I suppose :) 14:24:39 <Eddi|zuHause> we have dozens of bus sets 14:24:45 <Eddi|zuHause> we miss a proper truck set 14:24:56 <andythenorth> one day I'll make BANDIT 14:24:59 <andythenorth> when I can be arsed 14:25:06 <andythenorth> I like eGRVTS 2 14:25:27 <andythenorth> V453000: I like wallyweb, what he says makes sense I think 14:27:09 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 14:28:00 <andythenorth> Pikka: freight bus? 14:28:43 <Pikka> more like passenger truck 14:29:03 <Pikka> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Camel_bus_in_Havana.jpg 14:30:30 <__ln__> typical wikipedia quality 14:32:29 <andythenorth> Pikka chops, so FIRS Pineapple economy 14:32:36 <andythenorth> what shall I put in it? 14:34:57 <Pikka> no idea :D 14:35:02 <andythenorth> fruit plantation 14:35:07 <andythenorth> cane plantation 14:35:12 <andythenorth> sugar mill 14:35:23 <andythenorth> sheep farm? 14:35:57 <andythenorth> oh this will help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Queensland 14:41:41 <andythenorth> Pikka: any logging? 14:47:23 <Pikka> maybe 14:48:03 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:35 <andythenorth> what trains for tropic? 14:57:37 <andythenorth> NARS 2? 14:57:40 <andythenorth> UKRS 2 is a bit wrong 14:57:47 * andythenorth is playing a game 15:04:13 <michi_cc> Tropic Set? :p 15:07:55 <Eddi|zuHause> does that even have new cargo support? 15:14:13 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16:13 <michi_cc> Eddi|zuHause: I think it only contains engines, so you'd have to combine it for e.g. the old wagons, new cargos NewGRF. 15:16:34 <Pikka> and what a terrible, half-baked, broken grf that is, michi_cc 15:18:49 * andythenorth used NARS 2 15:19:55 <Pikka> and what a terrible, half-baked, broken grf that is, andythenorth :) 15:20:02 <andythenorth> it is crappy 15:20:04 <andythenorth> I will admit 15:20:12 <andythenorth> however it is the second best grf 15:22:58 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:41 <peter1138> i voted for pikka in the hall of fame 15:23:49 <andythenorth> awesome 15:23:51 <Pikka> \o/ 15:23:52 <andythenorth> I'll vote for peter1138 15:24:23 <Pikka> I voted for Napoleon 15:24:49 <peter1138> i voted for neapolitan 15:33:45 <Eddi|zuHause> mmh waffles 15:38:55 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 15:39:52 <andythenorth> hmm 15:39:54 <andythenorth> regearing 15:43:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:45:04 <Pikka> ew 15:45:08 <Pikka> regearing 15:49:34 <Pinkbeast> Hang on, I'm reading about it back in January, regearing _again_? 15:57:46 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:01:26 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:02:19 <Ristovski> how do I get the diamonds from the truck to the bank? 16:03:40 <peter1138> send them there 16:03:59 <Ristovski> peter1138: how? 16:04:09 <Ristovski> I cant make the truck go to the bank 16:04:18 <__ln__> you mean "can't" 16:04:28 <Ristovski> god damnit __ln__ 16:04:36 <andythenorth> what's this namcyn thing in AV8? 16:04:41 <andythenorth> never noticed it before 16:04:57 <Pikka> :] 16:05:07 * andythenorth uses it 16:05:07 <Pikka> it's the plane that I used as the example in my blogpost 16:05:13 <Pikka> of a vehicle that no-one ever uses ;) 16:05:22 <andythenorth> well now I just used it 16:05:25 <Pikka> well 16:05:29 <Pikka> too little, too late! :D 16:05:59 <peter1138> well you send the truck to a truck stop near the bank, not to the bank directly 16:06:17 <Ristovski> peter1138: truck loading bay? 16:06:59 <Ristovski> thanks, that worked 16:07:36 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:13:44 <andythenorth> need new airports :( 16:13:55 <andythenorth> or remove the silly airport limits :( 16:19:06 <Pinkbeast> It's a lot easier to do that with AV8 than UKRS* 16:20:26 <Pikka> mm newhairprodes 16:21:55 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:28:16 <andythenorth> hmm 16:28:21 <andythenorth> beaten by NoCarGoal :( 16:31:23 <andythenorth> hmm 16:31:30 <andythenorth> GS that issues 'contracts' 16:31:38 <andythenorth> how hard can that be? o_O 16:32:32 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:32:46 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 16:46:05 <peter1138> load average: 21.31, 19.55, 15.20 16:46:08 <peter1138> hmm :p 16:48:47 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:51:31 <Eddi|zuHause> that happens to me when i run out of ram 16:51:49 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-50dd93-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 17:09:31 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:35 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@82VAAAFWS.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 17:15:02 <peter1138> lots of openvassd processes 17:16:58 <V453000> assd? 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19:05:42 <andythenorth> one ship for life? 19:05:46 <Pikka> iono 19:08:13 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:11:02 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:26:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A195A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:00 <andythenorth> iono either? 19:29:09 <andythenorth> should I stfu? :P 19:30:08 <andythenorth> I have headache about ships and inland boats 19:30:35 <andythenorth> why have both? Apart from the look of the thing 19:30:46 <andythenorth> crippling one type for speed just makes it pointless :P 19:32:46 <Kjetil> make it a boat-plane 19:33:36 <andythenorth> yarrr 19:33:53 <Kjetil> Where are the openttd pirates ? 19:34:09 <andythenorth> FIRS Economy: black market 19:34:14 <Kjetil> Lewte and pillage 19:34:30 <andythenorth> cargos: diamonds, guns, smack, human slaves, rum 19:35:22 <NGC3982> In British language, what are people using "tat" for? 19:35:29 <NGC3982> Rubbish? 19:36:20 <Pinkbeast> Well, not quite rubbish rubbish 19:36:52 <Pikka> horse lasagne 19:36:56 <Pinkbeast> People might have a mantlepiece covered in ornaments, and that would be useless tat if you're the sort of person whose mantlepiece is covered in books 19:37:00 * Pikka well bast pedtime 19:37:03 <Pikka> goondight 19:37:09 <andythenorth> byedogs 19:37:12 *** incog [~Man_What@net-2-36-171-142.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #openttd 19:37:12 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:37:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:37:18 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-28-224.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38:40 <Prof_Frink> Tat is gear (generally cord) left at a belay for abseil descent. 19:41:17 <Alberth> o/ 19:42:26 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host109-158-209-230.range109-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:48:36 *** Fuco_ [dota.keys@server.dasnet.cz] has joined #openttd 19:48:46 *** Fuco [dota.keys@server.dasnet.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:49 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:48:53 <NGC3982> PI see. 19:49:00 <NGC3982> Oh, i see* 19:52:05 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host109-158-209-230.range109-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 19:56:18 <NGC3982> And 20:00:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:00:47 <NGC3982> No. 20:02:54 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:24 * Alberth gives some more random words to NGC3982 20:08:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7954.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:59 <andythenorth> bonjour frosch123 20:10:16 <frosch123> moin 20:10:24 <frosch123> so, you decided for 0.10.0 :p 20:11:21 <Alberth> quak 20:11:34 <andythenorth> yup 20:11:45 *** incog [~Man_What@net-2-36-171-142.cust.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [] 20:11:56 <andythenorth> I was getting increasingly worried about 0.9.x being close to 1.0.0 20:12:04 <andythenorth> then someone told me how counting works :P 20:12:42 <frosch123> let me guess... it was a simutrans dev? 20:13:23 <SpComb> 0.9.x is really just 9.x, but you're too afraid to call it stable, until you actually have more users than just yourself 20:14:06 <andythenorth> frosch123: it was someone in coop :) 20:14:12 <andythenorth> I don't remember who 20:14:17 <andythenorth> coop is all one person, right? 20:14:29 *** goodger [~ben@host86-145-89-50.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:14:30 <frosch123> yup, a mental union 20:14:40 <frosch123> an archon :) 20:14:44 <andythenorth> I wonder when FIRS will be ready for 1.0.0? 20:16:19 <Alberth> make a list of goals, and when you've reached them, it's 1.0.0 :) 20:16:59 <Alberth> if you follow openttd, you must have 1.0.0 when all your data files are open source :p 20:17:52 <andythenorth> I was going to 1.0.0 when I had closed all the tickets 20:17:53 <frosch123> andythenorth: the advantage of never releasing a 1.0.0 is that people don't bother you about what might be in 2.0.0 :) 20:18:03 <andythenorth> then DanMacK added more tickets :P :) 20:18:08 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/issues 20:18:12 <Alberth> :) 20:18:17 <andythenorth> only 24 left though 20:19:01 <Alberth> :o lots of new graphics! 20:19:37 <andythenorth> hiding in my pms, I have some seriously awesome new graphics from Dan 20:19:41 <andythenorth> for steel mill and paper mill 20:20:14 <andythenorth> and iron mine, bauxite mine, guano mine 20:20:20 <andythenorth> and coal mine 20:20:33 <andythenorth> I just have to get motivated to touch them up and put them in :) 20:21:11 <Alberth> sounds delicious :) 20:21:41 <andythenorth> oh a Juice Factory too :o 20:21:47 <andythenorth> I should rethink Tropic Basic :P 20:24:37 <andythenorth> hmm 20:24:48 <andythenorth> varying cargo rates by economy? 20:24:53 <andythenorth> that was planned a long time ago 20:24:57 <andythenorth> does anyone care? 20:25:32 <Alberth> it just changes which cargo to start with :) 20:25:50 <Alberth> it'd be more fun if it changes every new game, perhaps 20:26:08 <andythenorth> that's hard / impossible afaict 20:26:18 <andythenorth> except by using the custom profit calculation cb 20:26:31 <andythenorth> also, always start with PAX 20:26:35 <andythenorth> proven strategy :P 20:27:09 * andythenorth works on a tropical island economy 20:27:24 <andythenorth> or just 'island' 20:27:31 <Alberth> I don't do much PAX at all 20:31:18 <andythenorth> herp 20:31:27 <andythenorth> an 'island' economy might demand two kinds of port 20:31:31 <andythenorth> I've been trying to avoid that 20:31:38 <andythenorth> so I don't have to duplicate code :P 20:32:00 * andythenorth ponders using a python import to handle that, then subclass the main port 20:32:14 <andythenorth> might need an Alberth 20:32:43 <Alberth> I am right here :) 20:34:11 <frosch123> andythenorth: you are quite lucky 20:34:20 <frosch123> if you needed two alberts you would be screwed 20:35:22 *** brambles_ is now known as brambles 20:35:33 <Alberth> you can ask the other one tomorrow, perhaps :) 20:37:06 <andythenorth> Alberth: got a FIRS checkout? o_O 20:37:12 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 20:37:39 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 20:37:48 <Alberth> I was working on that, but openttd compiles so slowly :) 20:38:15 <Alberth> I have one 20:38:46 <andythenorth> I want to partially reuse code in industries/port.py, but creating a new type 20:38:48 <andythenorth> hmm 20:39:01 <andythenorth> I can think of multiple ways to do that 20:39:12 <Alberth> btw can someone tell me why 'hg pull' does not -u by default? 20:39:51 <andythenorth> because it's not git? :P 20:39:57 <andythenorth> bugs me too :) 20:40:00 <andythenorth> should alias it 20:40:44 <Alberth> git probably has even more commands to do the obvious :) 20:41:12 <Alberth> actually they had 'hg fetch' 20:41:28 <Alberth> but it didn't work any more 20:41:34 <andythenorth> herp, I can probably just set a different id :o 20:41:46 <andythenorth> might have to do some crazy though in the .pypnml 20:41:52 <Ristovski> hmm, any idea why only 75 out of 2500 passengers board a plane? 20:43:09 <Alberth> plane is full? 20:43:17 <andythenorth> cargodist? 20:43:48 <Alberth> python code looks like it should be nml source code, imho 20:44:06 <andythenorth> which? 20:44:16 <Alberth> your port.py code 20:44:49 <andythenorth> it becomes nml later o_O 20:45:27 <Alberth> :) 20:45:49 <Ristovski> I swear I clicked the 400 passenger one 20:46:07 <Ristovski> grr, probably my mouse spazzed out 20:47:51 <andythenorth> hmm 20:48:00 <andythenorth> I'll just do this port with string 20:48:05 <andythenorth> or maybe not at all :) 20:48:23 <andythenorth> maybe 2 types of port is a bad pattern 20:54:53 <heffer> hey guys. new release of NML anytime soon? because we've switched to pillow (instead of PIL) now for Fedora 19 and I was hoping a new release would be out until then 20:55:04 <heffer> otherwise i'll just go with a patch for now 21:00:18 <andythenorth> forests on islands? 21:05:09 <Alberth> heffer: I have not seen a dev of nml for a long time 21:05:49 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:05:55 <Alberth> tropical forests on an island? 21:06:05 <andythenorth> the island might be temperate 21:06:11 <andythenorth> I'm making it quite generic :) 21:06:22 <andythenorth> I reckon I can actually just copy and paste the port 21:06:26 <andythenorth> maybe make it a bulk terminal 21:06:29 <Alberth> hmm, fish and tourists would be more lileky :) 21:06:34 <andythenorth> got fish 21:06:36 <andythenorth> tourists smell 21:07:47 <Alberth> islands are more small scale, imho 21:08:36 <andythenorth> this one has oil ;) 21:08:43 <andythenorth> and needs cement 21:08:56 <andythenorth> think sardinia or corfu or something 21:08:58 <Alberth> small cities to do pax and mail :) 21:09:08 <Alberth> by boat 21:10:00 <andythenorth> archipelago 21:10:59 <andythenorth> so I have economies for: FIRS (big), Basic Temperate / Arctic / Tropic 21:11:10 <andythenorth> I'm adding pineapple (australia), island, and probably urban 21:11:18 <andythenorth> that will do for now I reckon 21:13:36 <Alberth> sounds like plenty 21:19:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:39:59 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has joined #openttd 21:42:19 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 22:07:43 <Eddi|zuHause> http://zeitgeist.li/asset/201303/zg.v7_2.png 22:13:11 <Alberth> It misses data tapes 22:13:47 <Eddi|zuHause> were these actually common? 22:14:42 *** goodger [~ben@host86-145-89-50.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 22:15:20 <Alberth> my first unix machine (a 386) did have a SCSI tape drive :p 22:15:30 <Alberth> but I guess most people don't know them :) 22:15:48 <Alberth> you had those floppy tape drives then :) 22:15:57 *** goodger [~ben@host86-145-89-50.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:16:11 <Terkhen> good night 22:16:42 <frosch123> i also miss 8" disks 22:16:54 <frosch123> but yeah, also tapes 22:17:59 <frosch123> though i wonder the vinyl thingies are intentionally left out 22:19:15 <Alberth> too difficult to draw and not get confused with CD :) 22:20:50 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: you missed "conceptually correct solution" :) 22:21:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: that is kinda implied, i thought 22:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause> especially the flexibility and expandibility part don't really apply to that patch 22:23:22 <Alberth> k 22:29:11 <welshdragon> Curious, PIkka's UKRS2 doesn't appear in the Content Download repo. 22:29:34 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-156-148.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:20 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:19 <frosch123> welshdragon: it shows up for me 22:38:47 <welshdragon> mind, I am using r22555 or similar 22:39:12 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-156-148.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:39:14 <welshdragon> is there now a way to hide NEWGRF's fpr older versions? 22:39:19 <frosch123> well, if you are using something 2 years old 22:39:29 <frosch123> it might miss the version requirements which pikka set 22:39:42 <frosch123> bananas features min/max versions from the start 22:39:58 <frosch123> all the fun gamescripts are only available for 1.3 22:40:00 <frosch123> nor for 1.2 22:40:03 <frosch123> *not 22:44:26 <frosch123> night 22:44:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7954.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:39 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, was the toyland title screen really that long ago? 22:48:03 <Alberth> I don't remember any toyland title screen 22:49:13 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:07 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 22:52:07 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:27 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: [><]] 23:01:24 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:07:24 <Ristovski> gtg, see ya 23:07:28 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5EFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:15:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5EFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:15 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 23:38:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A195A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:49 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 23:46:14 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:04 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-33-186.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:40 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd