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O.O 06:41:44 <SamanthaD> also, thanks 06:41:49 <SamanthaD> I figured out my problem 06:42:13 <SamanthaD> I need to set the line that feeds the "counting" bus to "transfer" so that it won't just unload into the water tower 06:52:03 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:52:29 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:53:52 <planetmaker> you don't need unload orders at all 06:54:00 <planetmaker> I don't even know why they're there 06:54:53 <dihedral> greetings 06:55:13 <planetmaker> hi dihedral 06:55:27 <dihedral> :-) 07:01:07 <Xaroth|Work> o/ 07:01:36 <Xaroth|Work> got another FS# for you, pm :P 07:01:57 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 07:02:14 <planetmaker> yes. I saw that. I nearly committed it 07:02:28 <Xaroth|Work> heh 07:02:29 <planetmaker> But then thought that the constant definitely should keep the comment which you removed ;-) 07:02:53 <planetmaker> And then I thought one could define the constant right away so that it is ensured in the first place 07:02:58 <planetmaker> and then I had to go to work 07:03:02 <Xaroth|Work> hehe 07:04:08 <SamanthaD> planetmaker: I found "transfer" forces the cargo to not go to the industry/city and instead linger in the station 07:04:23 <planetmaker> that's the purpose, you know 07:04:44 <planetmaker> goto A 07:04:45 <planetmaker> goto B 07:04:51 <planetmaker> and cargo will unload, if accepted 07:04:55 <planetmaker> nothing fancy required 07:05:13 <planetmaker> no special load or unload orders 07:05:28 <SamanthaD> planetmaker: Yes, but for what I'm doing I don't want it to get used up in B. I want to transfer it to C by a truck that's scheduled to run once a month ;) 07:05:32 <planetmaker> and with cargodist the 'transfer' order is pointless, too 07:06:48 <SamanthaD> oh... I get it... cargodist will make sure that there's enough to transfer 07:06:56 <SamanthaD> >.< (me facepalming) 07:07:40 <SamanthaD> as you can probably tell, I'm not used to the patch 07:07:47 <SamanthaD> I like it, though 07:07:48 <SamanthaD> a lot 07:10:39 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:12:46 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 07:20:20 *** Dr_Tan [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 07:25:50 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:56 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 07:38:02 *** wolfmitchell [~wolfmitch@znc.wolfmitchell.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:39:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AC6D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:42:58 *** wolfmitchell [~wolfmitch@znc.wolfmitchell.com] has joined #openttd 08:06:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AC6D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18:23 <planetmaker> hm... http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=19319 would be good guidelines in our forums, too :-) 08:21:09 <Xaroth|Work> you can usually sum it up in one line though 08:21:24 <planetmaker> be fair and resepectful? 08:21:28 <Xaroth|Work> Don't be a dick 08:21:49 <planetmaker> yeah. But that text explains what "dick" means ;-) 08:21:55 <Xaroth|Work> that's irrelevant 08:21:58 <planetmaker> dicks usually don't know that :-P 08:22:14 <Xaroth|Work> dicks don't get to argue about the definition of dicks either ;) 08:22:28 <Xaroth|Work> if a mod tells you you're being a dick, you're being a dick 08:24:15 <planetmaker> then it's too late already 08:24:39 <Xaroth|Work> but they wouldn't be stopped by a wall of 'how to behave' text anyhow 08:25:26 <Xaroth|Work> I'd be amazed if >50% of forum visitors actually read a 'how to behave' post 08:27:40 <planetmaker> yes, likely not 08:28:11 <planetmaker> anyway I'm only searching for terrain textures :-P 08:29:07 <planetmaker> no point in not "stealing" from other open source games who do that well 08:29:17 <Xaroth|Work> heh 08:29:19 <__ln__> the freenode channel guidelines can be summarized as "don't say anything that could cause any emotions in anyone", and i don't think that's a good way either. 08:29:30 <Xaroth|Work> that's too vague 08:29:34 <Xaroth|Work> and too restrictive 08:29:50 <planetmaker> like "don't make me happy?" Sad then 08:35:46 <juzza1> some people tend to take every single criticism as a personal attack 08:43:31 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58__1 08:49:33 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: added you to AUTHORS as contributor, so you know. 08:49:47 <planetmaker> but... I didn't do anything? 08:49:55 <Xaroth|Work> you helped test the setup script? 08:50:15 <planetmaker> as a plain, dumb user :-P 08:50:31 <Xaroth|Work> every developer needs a plain, dumb user to test things properly :) 08:50:34 <planetmaker> I don't mind, but I don't feel that I really contributed to warrant that :-) 08:52:15 <Xaroth|Work> peter1139: do you have a working patch for head-2-head? :P 08:52:28 <planetmaker> why him? It's yexo's patch 08:52:38 <Xaroth|Work> well, he has patches for everything 08:55:28 <Xaroth|Work> would be cool to have that patch alive again 08:56:05 <dihedral> i have a patch for head2desk 08:56:24 <Xaroth|Work> >_< 08:56:45 <planetmaker> I prefer a cushion for that 08:57:08 <Xaroth|Work> hm, h2h is updated to r24502 08:57:16 <Xaroth|Work> Yexo has been busy since that last post on the forum :p 08:57:39 <planetmaker> we played it like a year a go or so 09:04:04 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-183-182.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:13 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:18:09 *** xT2 [~ST2@188.250.229.176] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:18:27 *** ST2 [~ST2@188.250.229.176] has joined #openttd 09:24:18 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:45:07 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 09:59:22 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 10:01:53 *** kais58__2 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:03:38 *** kais58__1 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:06 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-134-225.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:43 <__ln__> http://low.fi/~viznut/loremipsum-google.txt 10:33:48 <Eddi|zuHause> it's really great that the ancient romans had words for "the internet service is available" :p 10:38:32 <juzza1> they really thought of everything 10:48:08 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:48:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:49:32 *** tst [id@37.140.101.226] has joined #openttd 10:54:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AC6D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:56:32 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 12:26:06 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 12:31:53 <Belugas> hellp 12:32:44 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 12:34:12 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@46.208.2.126] has joined #openttd 12:38:24 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:56:18 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:48 *** tst [id@37.140.101.226] has quit [] 13:14:04 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:39 *** kais58__2 is now known as kais58|AFK 13:27:00 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.bygdeposten.no/lokale_nyheter/article6752700.ece 13:37:10 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:54:38 *** adit [~adit@39.209.70.193] has joined #openttd 13:55:52 *** Polleke [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:35 *** kais58|A1K [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:18 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29:48 *** kais58|A1K [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:32:03 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:49:09 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:06 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:15:19 *** SamanthaD [~SamanthaD@c-98-248-25-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:31 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 15:21:28 <peter1139> dihedral, remember my vpn question 15:26:29 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 15:41:17 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:53 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 15:45:42 <NCG3982> Didn't there used to be a Russian trainset in the online content? 16:01:19 <planetmaker> and there is 16:07:15 <NCG3982> Under what name? I can't seem to find it. :) 16:09:52 <planetmaker> if it's not available, the authors restricted the version(s) it is available for 16:11:20 <planetmaker> but actually it's available just fine for me as xUSSR Railway Set 16:22:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "Un train Corail a déraillé cet aprÚs-midi en gare de Brétigny-sur-Orge, dans l'Essonne. L'accident a fait de nombreuses victimes." 16:23:13 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't sound good at all 16:23:25 <planetmaker> accidents rarely do 16:25:18 <Eddi|zuHause> something about train arrived at high speed, separated, and one part went over the platform 16:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause> but my french is a bit rusty 16:28:00 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 16:36:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:47:26 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C382E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:52:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 16:53:45 *** kais58|A1K [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:54:30 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-35-135.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:28 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 16:58:58 <andythenorth> planetmaker: going to put the kids to bed, should be back online by 8pm 16:59:06 <andythenorth> (Uk time) 16:59:09 <andythenorth> wrt MP game :) 16:59:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:59:20 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009539.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:32 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:59 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 17:11:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25589 /trunk/src/network (core/config.h network_admin.cpp) (2013-07-12 17:11:16 UTC) 17:11:24 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5646]: Ensure that sent and received length of json strings are the same (based on patch by Xaroth) 17:11:34 *** adit [~adit@39.209.70.193] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:40 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:11:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:12:08 <Alberth> o/ 17:12:33 <planetmaker> hello Alberth 17:12:42 <LordAro> hai Alberth 17:12:49 <planetmaker> frosch123, Alberth andy just announced his presence for 8pm UK time ;-) 17:13:06 <Alberth> k 17:15:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25590 trunk/src/network/core/config.h (2013-07-12 17:15:13 UTC) 17:15:20 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Align doxygen comments again 17:20:18 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:27 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 17:22:54 *** Chruker [~no@5634a3b5.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 17:39:27 *** Chruker [~no@5634a3b5.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 17:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25591 trunk/src/lang/japanese.txt (2013-07-12 17:45:08 UTC) 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> japanese - 73 changes by guppy 17:49:01 <planetmaker> so... which trainset do we play with tonight? 17:53:47 <Rubidium> OTS? 17:54:10 <Xaroth|Work> :o 17:54:20 <planetmaker> OTS? 17:54:29 <planetmaker> doesn't work well with FIRS 17:55:24 <frosch123> ogfx+trains or nuts imho 17:56:42 <frosch123> does nuts already support coffee graphics? 17:56:48 <planetmaker> I guess not 17:57:03 <planetmaker> may I also add nightly opengfx+landscape? 17:57:17 <frosch123> if you turn on the grid :p 17:57:26 <planetmaker> woot? No! ;-) 17:57:41 <planetmaker> but yes, ok 17:57:51 <planetmaker> might be interesting test nontheless 18:01:54 <planetmaker> but you don't like gridless landscape? 18:06:29 <Xaroth|Work> what are you guys going to test anyhow? 18:07:00 <Alberth> who cares? :) 18:08:00 <planetmaker> Xaroth, the ominous game 'OpenTTD' :-P 18:08:27 <planetmaker> NoCarGoal, 7 years, 25k transported? 18:08:34 <planetmaker> ^ frosch123 ? 18:08:52 <planetmaker> 256x512 tropical map, NUTS, FIRS nightly 18:09:44 <frosch123> planetmaker: yes, gridless landscape is damn ugly 18:10:00 <planetmaker> Xaroth, nothing special really... setup we like. And a new untested FIRS economy 18:10:01 <frosch123> i loved your grid transparency patch, because it enforced that i could always enable the grid :) 18:10:18 <planetmaker> I still like it... the issue was with some tiles... 18:10:29 <planetmaker> I should probably update it 18:10:31 <frosch123> basically gridless landscape is completely repetitive, while the grid obfuscates the repetiveness 18:10:33 <planetmaker> and work more on it 18:10:57 <planetmaker> that's another thing I want to change :-P 18:11:09 <planetmaker> but that's entirely different thing :-) 18:12:52 <planetmaker> hm, cargodist or not? Let's try with...? 18:19:07 <frosch123> so, should ottd link the excel api to export interesting commercial data into a proper spreadsheet? 18:19:44 <planetmaker> :-P 18:21:40 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:26:43 <peter1139> i have a patch for that 18:28:24 <Rubidium> frosch123: no, it should link libreoffice 18:28:28 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: ah 18:28:39 <Rubidium> all few hundred MiB of it 18:28:58 <frosch123> Rubidium: include libreoffice into the ottd package? or make ottd a libreoffice plugin? 18:29:53 <frosch123> we should totally turn ottd into a spreadsheet game 18:30:24 <Rubidium> frosch123: into the ottd package 18:30:26 <frosch123> every employee will be happy if the spreadsheet guys draw less spreadsheets, but play instead 18:30:31 <Rubidium> after all, it should also include a web browser 18:30:39 <Rubidium> then we can sell ottd as its own operating system 18:31:27 <frosch123> yeah, os and browsers are completely blending into each other 18:31:33 <frosch123> quite hard to distinguish them 18:32:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-234-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:32:46 <Wolf01> hello 18:33:06 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:42:47 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:44:04 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:46:41 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@e179136225.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:19 *** SkeedR [~Skeed@2.31.248.5] has joined #openttd 18:52:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:44 <Alberth> hi hi 18:53:03 <andythenorth> lo 18:53:04 <planetmaker> hey ho andythenorth #openttdcoop.nightly 18:53:31 <SkeedR> Quick question for devs or andythenorth... Is there a reason industries seem to cluster (FIRS 1.2.0/OTTD 1.3.1/Tropical)? 18:54:13 <planetmaker> yes. It's made to cluster 18:54:20 <planetmaker> by FIRS 18:54:26 <SkeedR> ahhh 18:54:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25592 /trunk/src (4 files in 3 dirs) (2013-07-12 18:54:27 UTC) 18:54:34 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5644]: Changing the script difficulty level in-game would also change the settings using the default even though they were not allowed to change in-game 18:59:21 <frosch123> SkeedR: farms cluster intentionally 18:59:46 <frosch123> which adds variety to the game as you have different transport requirements for them than for other industries 19:00:42 <SkeedR> I just find it a bit annoying 19:01:51 <planetmaker> play with a less annoying NewGRF. I consider it an awesome feature 19:02:04 <andythenorth> other grfs are available 19:02:14 <SkeedR> I like the rest of the GRF... 19:02:16 <andythenorth> or it can be disabled if you compile 19:02:17 <SkeedR> I can deal with it 19:02:19 <Rubidium> and it's merely a setting 19:02:30 <andythenorth> it's a setting in the codebase :P 19:02:32 <andythenorth> there's no parameter 19:03:26 <SkeedR> I'm not even going to bother asking for one ;) 19:03:38 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 19:08:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:14:34 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:56 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has quit [Quit: I'm using a Free IRC Bouncer from BNC4FREE - http://bnc4free.com/] 19:22:01 *** wolfmitchell [~wolfmitch@znc.wolfmitchell.com] has quit [Quit: Noo, my ZNC is down... or I used /znc disconnect.] 19:25:30 *** MrShell 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in this image are red? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/h3o.png/ 23:35:58 <Thetoy> Am I in the wrong place for such a question? 23:37:11 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-81-248.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 23:38:09 <Elukka> no, but i have no idea 23:38:20 <Elukka> i've found everything but path signals to be of such marginal usefulness i haven't used anything else for a good while 23:39:16 <Thetoy> Well, this setup, if it worked, would allow me to only have two tracks, one for each direction 23:39:34 <Thetoy> and it should be able to put trains in all the slots on that station 23:39:44 <Thetoy> But obviously, it's pretty shit right now 23:41:51 <Elukka> someone else can probably tell you exactly what is wrong with yout presignals but in the meantime you could just plop down a bunch of one way path signals and get it running 23:42:42 <Thetoy> Yeah, I guess 23:43:11 <Thetoy> Would that be able to handle a lot of traffic? 23:43:48 <Thetoy> I've only been playing this game for the past 12 hours, so I know nothing :P 23:43:59 <Dr_Tan> yeah 23:44:06 <Dr_Tan> path signals are the master race 23:44:13 <Elukka> i've played way too many hours but i'm a little rusty 23:44:16 <Elukka> basically though 23:44:17 <Elukka> presignals 23:44:21 <Elukka> ...no, sorry, pathsignals 23:44:23 <Elukka> path signals everywhere 23:44:46 <Dr_Tan> I can't play with normal signals 23:44:50 <Elukka> the only real rule is only place them where a train however long yours are can wait without blocking off a junction 23:45:04 <Dr_Tan> when I play Simutrans or Locomotion 23:45:11 <Dr_Tan> I don't know how to build layouts 23:45:17 <Elukka> there are niche use cases where you need the other types of signal but path signals are the newest development that are pretty good for almost every case 23:45:18 <Dr_Tan> because path signals 23:46:10 <Elukka> i'm not exactly sure why but for some reason path signals seem to do what presignals are supposed to do 23:46:13 <Elukka> so they should work in your case 23:47:03 <Thetoy> I'll give it a try then, thanks! 23:48:07 <Elukka> the way i recommend learning signaling is just to use path signals everywhere and then look into the other types if you really manage to run into a situation where they don't do the job 23:48:23 <Thetoy> Yeah 23:48:32 <Thetoy> But the other signals sound so simple to use 23:48:49 <Thetoy> "Is green if one or more is green" 23:49:00 <Thetoy> Clearly, I over estimated my abilities :P 23:49:36 <Elukka> path signals are actually easier to use besides being better :P 23:49:41 <Thetoy> But yeah, I replace them all with path signals, and it works just the was I want it to now 23:49:46 <Elukka> yay 23:52:01 <Thetoy> I had to remove the ones that used to be combo signals though 23:52:18 <Thetoy> Otherwise trains would go forward to one of those and wait 23:52:41 <Elukka> i think just the one signal on the line before all the junctions might be enough 23:52:46 <Elukka> ...but lemme actually try this out first 23:52:47 <Thetoy> Yeah 23:52:50 <Thetoy> Thats what I have 23:53:23 <Xaroth|Work> the train might be slightly too long for the station 23:53:34 <Elukka> i'm thinking you might not need the signals before the platforms at all 23:53:36 <Xaroth|Work> seeing the end engine is sticking out like that 23:53:42 <Xaroth|Work> could be messing with the exit signs 23:53:50 <Thetoy> Yeah, it could look that way 23:54:01 <Xaroth|Work> shorten the train by 1 carriage 23:54:03 <Xaroth|Work> see what happens 23:54:28 <Thetoy> You are right! 23:54:39 <Thetoy> It's 4.5 long 23:54:40 <Xaroth|Work> :) 23:54:47 <Thetoy> On a 4 station 23:55:24 <Thetoy> Is there a quick way to remove 1 carriage from the millions of trains I have on that track? :D 23:55:48 <Elukka> can't think of one 23:55:52 <Elukka> i'd just add a tile to the station :P 23:56:12 <Thetoy> It's a bit cramped :P 23:58:04 <Thetoy> Ah well, that's what I get for making a mess of it and spamming clone afterwards :P 23:59:13 <Xaroth|Work> i always fit my trains to the station 23:59:20 <Xaroth|Work> making them 1 carriage short if it's a single-head engine 23:59:32 <Xaroth|Work> so that when i upgrade to a dual-head, they still don't stick out 23:59:39 <Thetoy> Ahhh 23:59:47 <Thetoy> That's what happened here 23:59:49 <Xaroth|Work> not 100% efficient, but i'm too lazy to figure out how the replace thing works :P 23:59:56 <Thetoy> They started out as single engined