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Uninstall that crap and grabble a decent Irc client at www.AdiIRC.com] 04:41:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.160.167] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5833.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:04:30 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:20:13 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33:03 *** LSky [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:24:34 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24:46 *** Tanguy [~tanguy@2a01:e34:ee8f:150:82ee:73ff:fe43:b876] has joined #openttd 06:31:49 *** Bobix [Bobix@b957.ip14.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:44 <Supercheese> 'night 06:48:46 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 07:12:51 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:13:41 *** DanMacK [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 07:15:38 <DanMacK> Hey all 07:29:40 *** DanMacK [~0a0a6574@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:36:07 <planetmaker> moin 07:40:01 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 07:46:03 <peter1139> Top o' the mornin' to ya. 07:53:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:58:25 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:59:50 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:02:12 <LordAro> morning 08:03:48 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 08:09:13 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 08:17:04 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:33:52 *** joho^_^ [~joho@takamachi.nanoha.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:37:11 *** joho [~joho@takamachi.nanoha.se] has joined #openttd 09:29:28 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:49:20 *** fjb is now known as Guest7198 09:49:21 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:27 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 09:56:40 *** Guest7198 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:56 <Wolf01> hi hi 10:22:53 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 10:42:16 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@herngaard.torservers.net] has joined #openttd 10:42:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 10:43:06 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:11:15 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-169-2-218.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 11:20:58 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:59 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:31:21 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:41 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 11:37:25 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39:09 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:43 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:45:17 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 11:45:50 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@8JQAAIAAP.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 11:49:13 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:45 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 11:53:03 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12:55 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:13:21 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:38 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:17 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:40 <Snail> what is the address to report a grfcodec bug? 12:19:51 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:41 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:22:09 <planetmaker> dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec 12:22:09 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:26 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:28:24 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:21 <Snail> thanks 12:36:56 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.20.223] has joined #openttd 12:39:39 <Snail> just reported my issue :p 12:39:40 <Snail> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6884 12:39:55 <Snail> I set it a higher priority coz I canât code without this... 12:40:35 <planetmaker> the test might be easier if you supplied the required images, too 12:40:51 <planetmaker> so that one can actually build the nfo 12:41:43 <Snail> I did 12:41:50 <Snail> I supplied a RAR file with nfo and png 12:41:56 <Snail> whoops 12:41:58 <Snail> wrong file 12:42:17 <planetmaker> just attach each file separately. easier also than downloading zip archives :D 12:42:34 <Snail> ok :p 12:43:05 <Snail> done 12:47:32 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@122.298.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:47:43 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:27:41 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.17.20.223] has joined #openttd 13:33:46 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.20.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:52 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 13:42:01 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:14 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:43:13 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 13:46:10 *** Man [531cf924@78.129.202.38] has joined #openttd 13:46:22 <Man> hey guys 13:46:26 <Man> anybody there? 13:47:50 <planetmaker> hi 13:48:32 <V453000> hi 13:48:33 <V453000> no 13:48:49 <Man> i've got a problem downloading newest ottd 13:48:54 <Man> anybody else? 13:49:07 <planetmaker> what exactly is the issue? 13:49:50 <Man> it says the file ain`t there 13:50:07 <Man> Not Found The requested URL /binaries/releases/1.4.0/openttd-1.4.0-windows-win64.zip was not found on this server. 13:50:13 <Man> this exactly 13:53:14 <planetmaker> what URL? 13:53:54 <planetmaker> we use several mirrors, so it might be the one near you which failed to sync properly 14:08:06 <Man> could you give me another then please? 14:08:48 <planetmaker> what is the URL you try to retrieve the file from? 14:09:17 <Man> hu.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/releases/1.4.0/openttd-1.4.0-windows-win64.zip 14:09:21 <Man> but i got it already 14:09:26 <Man> changed hu to uk :P 14:10:31 *** Man [531cf924@78.129.202.38] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:21:07 <mg_> i tried downloading about an hour ago, and .hu mirror wasn't wrking 14:22:23 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 14:47:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:05:49 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:20:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:53 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:36:17 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 15:38:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:38:59 <Belugas> yo 15:42:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.188.92] has joined #openttd 15:56:11 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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The more supply you have in the same link graph the more cargo you'd be able to store at a station without hurting your rating. 17:57:26 <fonsinchen> Easy to do and clearly an incentive. But it again worsen the overcrowding problem. 17:57:50 <fonsinchen> ^... could worsen ... 17:59:29 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:45 <Alberth> o/ 18:08:00 <andythenorth> o/ 18:08:58 <fonsinchen> hi 18:09:24 <fonsinchen> andythenorth: Any conclusions about the waybill mode? 18:09:34 <andythenorth> works so far 18:09:41 <andythenorth> I havenât tried anything complicated 18:09:47 <andythenorth> Iâm playing a relatively small map 18:10:01 <andythenorth> for this kind of game It Just Works 18:10:12 <andythenorth> I have another 70 years or so to try and win the GS goal 18:10:20 <andythenorth> will see if I find anything else 18:10:35 <fonsinchen> Does it make a difference compared with asymmetric? 18:10:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74784e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:49 <andythenorth> Hard to answer 18:11:57 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 18:12:02 <andythenorth> I didnât stick at asymmetric enough to give a fair answer 18:12:09 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:13 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 18:12:28 <andythenorth> I found with asymmetric that I was trying to reverse-engineer cdist to get things where I wanted them 18:13:11 <andythenorth> I also got annoyed by cargo building up at some stations for reasons I didnât understand 18:13:18 <andythenorth> thatâs not happening with waybill 18:14:05 <fonsinchen> OK, thanks for testing. 18:23:25 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 18:32:08 <andythenorth> fonsinchen: whatâs your current thoughts about tile demands? 18:47:40 <andythenorth> V453000: I haz FIRS ideaz 18:48:26 <V453000> (: 18:50:24 <andythenorth> this I donât like https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6028/meh-farms.png 18:51:00 <andythenorth> so farms all have to be connected to central transfer stations (slave labour) 18:51:09 <andythenorth> and then, once supplies are being delivered 18:51:18 <andythenorth> all hell breaks loose in an otherwise satisfying network 18:51:23 <andythenorth> and not in an interesting way 18:51:51 <andythenorth> unless theyâre all connected and supplied, the cargo volumes are way too small 18:52:01 <andythenorth> and then once they are supplied, the cargo volumes are bonkers 18:52:46 <Alberth> it simulates realistic good year / bad year :p 18:53:02 <frosch123> i still don't get why andy doesn't like the farm transfers 18:53:11 <frosch123> transfering is the most fun part of the game 18:53:20 <frosch123> and firs farms are about the only legit usecase for road vehicles 18:53:28 <Alberth> true 18:53:43 <frosch123> is it just a trick to not make bandit? 18:54:13 <andythenorth> if I really hated the farms Iâd have removed the clustering by now 18:54:17 <andythenorth> I think thereâs a better solution 18:56:13 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-20-106.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:56:16 <Phreeze> lol 18:56:22 <Pikka> lol 18:56:24 <Phreeze> first thing i read from andy, is a rant vs his great grfs :) 18:56:35 <Pikka> where? 18:56:42 <Phreeze> 20:54:16] <andythenorth> if I really hated the farms Iâd have removed the clustering by now 18:56:42 <Phreeze> [20:54:20] <andythenorth> I think thereâs a better solution 18:56:42 <Phreeze> [20:56:15] * Pikka (~Octomom@d110-32-20-106.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au) has joined #openttd 18:56:46 <Phreeze> ;) 18:57:03 *** fairc [~richard@e179173235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:04 <Pikka> oh 18:57:06 <Pikka> farmhate 18:57:13 <Phreeze> yep 18:57:15 <andythenorth> ranchhate 18:57:23 <Phreeze> what are those catenaries andy ? 18:57:38 <frosch123> andythenorth: anyway, the key to interesting gameplay is diverse gameplay 18:57:53 <frosch123> so, feel free to add another chain with different mechaincs :p 18:57:59 <frosch123> "even fuller firs" 18:58:23 <Phreeze> interesting varies a lot: some find it interesting in playing realistic as hell, other love details and create giant infrastructure, others want to make perfect tracklayout etc 18:58:38 * Phreeze slaps andythenorth around a bit with a large trout 18:58:47 <frosch123> Phreeze: i wouldn't call "realistic" playing 18:58:53 <fonsinchen> andythenorth: I think I'm going to remove tile demands. 18:58:59 <fonsinchen> No one likes them 18:59:08 <andythenorth> \o. 18:59:12 <andythenorth> oops 18:59:14 <andythenorth> \o/ 18:59:21 <frosch123> the most extreme realistic players are not playing at all, but just to bullheaded to use photoshop 18:59:40 <Phreeze> ^^ 19:01:14 <andythenorth> fonsinchen: routing is to industry instances (or tiles), not to stations? 19:01:24 <andythenorth> I have two covered industries, one appears to be unsupplied 19:01:31 <fonsinchen> it's to stations with demand 19:01:42 <fonsinchen> probably tile demand again 19:02:02 <fonsinchen> ah, you mean supplied by the same station? 19:02:25 <andythenorth> so the final distribution from station to accepting industry is same as vanilla ottd? 19:02:36 <andythenorth> whichever N tile is nearest? 19:02:40 <fonsinchen> That's just as without cargodist. It only delivers to one industry. 19:03:02 <andythenorth> ah ok 19:03:35 <andythenorth> feel like solving that? o_O (separately) 19:03:41 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:56 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:04:00 <Pikka> so that you can stationwalk across all your farms and not have to build feeder networks? ;) 19:04:32 <andythenorth> yes 19:04:37 <andythenorth> precisement 19:04:45 <fonsinchen> I definitely don't feel like solving that. It's a mess. 19:04:45 <Pikka> little distribution networks are "interesting gameplay" though 19:04:59 <andythenorth> only for the first 5 or so :P 19:05:02 <andythenorth> then they are âchore' 19:05:16 <Pikka> they get your trucks used 19:05:48 <andythenorth> I could live without that 19:05:52 <frosch123> andythenorth: how does that no apply to all industries? 19:06:15 <andythenorth> chore? 19:06:25 <frosch123> yes 19:06:36 <frosch123> connecting the fifth industry is always the same as before 19:06:38 <andythenorth> most primaries only produce one cargo 19:06:44 <andythenorth> so the station building is less tedious 19:06:56 <andythenorth> most / non-farm /s 19:07:08 <frosch123> maybe create a "andy"-economy without farms :p 19:07:18 <andythenorth> itâs quite easy to do a non-blocking dropoff / pickup arrangement 19:07:29 <andythenorth> itâs hard to do two non-blocking pickups and a dropoff 19:07:30 *** fairc [~richard@e179173235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:07:43 <andythenorth> and omg, realism 19:07:47 <andythenorth> or rather aesthetics 19:07:56 <andythenorth> mines look ok with lots of station around them 19:08:06 <andythenorth> farms look stupid when there are more truck stop tiles than farm 19:08:45 <andythenorth> I think the answer is higher initial production, lower supply boost, and fewer farms per cluster 19:08:45 <Alberth> close the farm when too many stops nearby :p 19:08:56 <andythenorth> Alberth: evil :D 19:09:28 <Pikka> all arable land has been occupied by roads, you have been eaten by a grue 19:09:44 <Alberth> how many farms per cluster do you have now? 19:09:55 * andythenorth looks 19:10:46 <Alberth> it used to be quite nice in setup, but then again, I hardly play with supplies 19:11:10 <andythenorth> up to 10 19:11:19 <Alberth> :o that's a lot :) 19:11:40 <andythenorth> hmm 19:11:43 * andythenorth checks code 19:11:56 <Alberth> 5-6 is what I remember 19:12:28 <Alberth> but a very big cluster once in a while could be nice 19:13:32 <peter1139> Hmm, is 4096x4096 playable? 19:14:01 <andythenorth> only if you donât get bored easily 19:16:00 <Phreeze> 4096 is like an "endless game" 19:16:12 <Phreeze> i'm just into small maps now, 512 19:16:33 <fonsinchen> 4096x4096 is probably a pain, but 4096x64 is pretty cool 19:16:41 <andythenorth> seems coal mins can cluster up to 20 19:16:48 <andythenorth> but spread over a larger distance 19:17:13 <andythenorth> oh Iâm reading this all wrong :) 19:17:41 <andythenorth> Alberth: I have absolutely no idea how big a cluster can big be :) 19:18:55 <Alberth> it's a surprise :) 19:19:07 <andythenorth> seems to be 19:19:37 <Pikka> hmm 19:19:44 <andythenorth> I suspect there is no fixed limit per cluster, but rather a number of clusters per map 19:20:00 <Pikka> such cluster 19:20:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:39 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@82.11.5.177] has joined #openttd 19:21:45 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@82.11.5.177] has left #openttd [] 19:24:47 <andythenorth> a mine running at Gung Ho is easy to serve with trains 19:24:54 <andythenorth> farms with trams or trucks are a PITS 19:24:56 <andythenorth> ? 19:24:57 <andythenorth> PITA 19:25:02 <andythenorth> one day I will learn to type 19:25:04 <andythenorth> or die 19:26:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:44 <Eddi|zuHause> news flash: 512 is not "small" :p 19:28:20 <Alberth> number of clusters per map, interesting :) 19:28:53 <Alberth> I usually play with few industries, which would explain why my farm clusters are quite small 19:29:17 <andythenorth> my last game had 8-16 per cluster 19:29:38 <andythenorth> 256x256 is small 19:29:48 <Alberth> I hope you scale the number of clusters on map size 19:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause> small maps are a problem with FIRS, there are so many industry types that you only get one per type 19:29:57 <andythenorth> Alberth: yes :) 19:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause> which breaks the clustering 19:30:11 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: 64x64 is fun :) 19:30:15 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: insoluble :D 19:30:26 <Alberth> you get one industry of every type :) 19:31:11 <Alberth> and almost no room left to transport stuff 19:31:51 <Eddi|zuHause> my last 64x64 game was with MiniIN 19:32:36 <frosch123> do a 128x64 map, and build two stations on it 19:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but that one 128x256 game i played with YACD was great fun 19:32:57 <peter1139> YACD :D 19:33:14 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise i played 512x512 or bigger 19:33:41 <Eddi|zuHause> usually i prefer "sparse" maps 19:33:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. low towns/industries 19:34:06 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of space inbetween 19:34:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a shame the variety distribution is so bad with aspect ratio scaling 19:35:06 <Eddi|zuHause> or i'd try something like 128x2048 19:37:27 <andythenorth> you _could_ fix it o_O 19:42:27 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:45:53 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3221.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:45 <andythenorth> grr 19:49:59 <andythenorth> converting to electric rail on a bridge converted the narrow gauge underneath it 19:51:14 <Alberth> only convert the bridge ramps :) 19:51:42 <andythenorth> indeed 19:51:45 <andythenorth> drag-drop error :P 19:51:54 <andythenorth> -drop 19:52:36 <Phreeze> andy 19:52:42 <Phreeze> what catenaries are in that screenshot ? 19:54:46 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.54] has joined #openttd 19:54:58 * Phreeze slaps andythenorth around a bit with a large trout 19:55:07 <Phreeze> 20:50:26] <andythenorth> this I donât like https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6028/meh-farms.png 19:55:18 <andythenorth> I dunno 19:55:23 <andythenorth> theyâre trams 19:55:30 <andythenorth> I donât know the details 19:59:27 <andythenorth> Pikka: I am very +1 to AV9 so far 19:59:38 <andythenorth> itâs 1927, and choosing which plane to use is very easy 20:01:04 <andythenorth> silly bunching ships 20:01:07 <andythenorth> looks silly 20:01:48 <Eddi|zuHause> those are the default tram catenaries 20:01:59 <Eddi|zuHause> which look ugly as hell with all the double poles 20:02:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea why they were even considered for inclusion 20:02:49 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:27 <Pikka> probably because you didn't draw any better ones at the time 20:04:40 <Pikka> av9 is good times 20:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i think there were alternatives available back then already 20:09:57 <andythenorth> feel free to patch them 20:10:06 <andythenorth> I had never noticed the ugliness until you pointed it out :| 20:10:10 <andythenorth> now I can never unsee it 20:11:59 <andythenorth> oops 20:12:10 * andythenorth had stations on âplannedâ instead of âwaiting' 20:12:23 <andythenorth> 11,700 tonnes of Iron Ore waiting 20:12:26 <andythenorth> or is that tons? 20:13:01 <Alberth> it's heavy either way :) 20:13:13 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387a827.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:20:01 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:23:07 <Phreeze> i think i had an av9 problem 20:23:21 <Phreeze> the newspaper didnt show the sprite, but some "av9" letters 20:23:27 <planetmaker> g'evening (again) 20:23:50 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.54] has joined #openttd 20:24:52 <Pikka> yes, somewhat buggy 20:24:57 <Pikka> it's not exactly a proper release ;) 20:25:11 <Phreeze> http://imgur.com/EmLMd9A 20:25:18 <Phreeze> check it 20:25:26 <Pikka> si 20:25:33 <Phreeze> bueno 20:26:10 <Pikka> 9.8 is really just a stats test, to see if it's playable 20:27:30 <peter1139> Surely not. 20:27:44 <Pikka> surely it's not playable? 20:27:53 <peter1139> I've no idea. 20:27:59 <peter1139> Is ukrs2 out yet? 20:28:20 *** Superuser [~superuser@2a02:e00:fffe:fbee::b5a2:2197] has joined #openttd 20:28:37 <Pikka> no, it's still in denial 20:29:44 <andythenorth> shocking 20:29:48 <andythenorth> shameful egypt jokes 20:29:58 <Pikka> tres 20:30:36 <Pikka> all men are fools, and what makes them so is beauty like what I have got? 20:31:23 <andythenorth> letâs see what cdist does with ârefit any availableâ orders 20:33:04 <andythenorth> not much so far :P 20:34:27 <fonsinchen> andythenorth: You have to run each cargo over the link at least once to bootstrap it. 20:34:40 <fonsinchen> Otherwise it won't know what it can refit to. 20:34:54 <andythenorth> should be ok in this case 20:35:03 <andythenorth> existing route 20:35:48 <fonsinchen> It only works if it's "existing same link for all available cargos". 20:36:36 <fonsinchen> (or for initially unrouted cargo "to any station") 20:37:36 * andythenorth wonders how the refitted cargo is chosen 20:37:47 <andythenorth> 180t coal waiting, 7809t iron ore 20:37:50 <andythenorth> refit chosen is coal :P 20:38:09 <fonsinchen> Iron probably doesn't have the right routing information. 20:38:33 <fonsinchen> Does it refit all wagons to the same cargo? 20:38:42 <andythenorth> itâs ships, but yeah I think youâre right 20:38:54 <andythenorth> the iron ore has lost its route 20:38:58 <andythenorth> itâs âany station' 20:39:20 <fonsinchen> Then it should actually load it. If it doesn't please show me the savegame 20:39:34 <andythenorth> and the trains have stopped dropping off (they donât have explicit transfer orders) 20:39:38 <andythenorth> hang on Iâll upload 20:39:49 * peter1139 steals andythenorth's smartquotes. 20:40:19 <andythenorth> thanks 20:40:22 <andythenorth> stupid irc client 20:40:59 <fonsinchen> You're still playing the waybill patch, right? 20:41:01 <andythenorth> yup 20:42:28 <andythenorth> fonsinchen: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6030/cdist%20waybill%20test%202.zip 20:42:38 <andythenorth> maybe it just needs more time to get the links up 20:44:58 <fonsinchen> which of those iron horses is the right one? 20:45:35 <andythenorth> oops sorry 20:45:49 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 20:46:18 <andythenorth> 700M - filename is iron-horse.tar 20:46:19 <fonsinchen> The newest one, I guess? The non-alpha one? 20:46:24 <andythenorth> dated 20 April 20:46:34 <andythenorth> didnât realise there were 4 in the dir :P 20:48:01 <fonsinchen> Fiddlewig East, I guess? 20:48:13 <fonsinchen> One thing to note is that the ship will only refit when it's empty 20:48:34 <fonsinchen> Just like without cargodist 20:48:38 <andythenorth> yup 20:48:42 <andythenorth> should be empty afaict 20:48:50 <andythenorth> did I mess up an order? 20:48:58 <fonsinchen> one is half full of coal 20:49:03 <fonsinchen> the other one refits to iron 20:49:33 <andythenorth> ok, so it was just patience needed 20:49:54 <andythenorth> ah 20:50:02 <Wolf01> http://www.bundlestars.com/all-bundles/the-trainz-bundle/ :o 20:50:12 <andythenorth> does the vehicle just refit to lowest cargo ID with some amount waiting? 20:50:17 <andythenorth> looks that way 20:50:22 <fonsinchen> hmm, no it prefers coal 20:50:34 * andythenorth bets on lowest ID 20:50:36 <fonsinchen> whenever there is coal it refits to coal 20:50:53 <Pikka> Wolf01, yes, but on the other hand it's Trainz 20:51:02 <andythenorth> coal is ID 1, iron ore is 8 20:51:24 * Pikka suspects that also 20:51:29 *** LSky [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:46 <fonsinchen> thanks 20:54:04 <andythenorth> np :) 20:56:01 <fonsinchen> It will only refit to something else after trying one cargo successfully if the consist's free capacity for the new cargo is lower than that for the old one. 20:56:18 <fonsinchen> Works fine for trains or other things with multiple vehicles per consist 20:56:24 <fonsinchen> not so much for ships ... 20:58:27 <andythenorth> bloody ships :) 21:00:07 <Pikka> the obvious solution is articulated ships 21:00:14 <Pikka> and articulated aircraft 21:00:25 <andythenorth> they wonât be able to overtake 21:00:30 <Pikka> darn 21:04:34 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.54] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:19 <andythenorth> fonsinchen: FWIW, I donât think an incentive is needed to connect nodes 21:07:31 <andythenorth> but then again, I only play with GS now, and that controls the incentives 21:08:04 <andythenorth> speaking as the failed designer of a large industry set, I would recommend leaving gameplay incentives to GS :P 21:13:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:48 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4721.vo.lu] has quit [] 21:16:30 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:00 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:20:36 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 21:24:20 <andythenorth> âclose dockâ anyone? 21:26:19 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-13-236.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:04 <Pikka> close to what? 21:27:12 <Pinkbeast> Ships? 21:27:20 <Pikka> how close? 21:27:32 <Pikka> almost touching? 21:27:41 <peter1139> cloth? 21:27:57 <Eddi|zuHause> softly caressing 21:28:17 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387a827.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:28:17 <Pikka> peter1139, so what was the problem with the shortened diagonal patch? 21:28:27 <peter1139> It doesn't work. 21:28:28 <Eddi|zuHause> CETS 21:28:41 <Pikka> but apart from that? 21:28:43 <peter1139> It does but doesn't. 21:29:02 <peter1139> It doesn't always get the distances right. Needs more sub-positioning accuracy. 21:29:50 <Pikka> easy fix? 21:30:03 <Pikka> knock it over in an afternoon? 21:30:28 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-62-44.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:22 <Eddi|zuHause> multiply the number of substeps by 3? 21:32:24 <Eddi|zuHause> 1.5 is "almost" sqrt(2) 21:33:51 <peter1139> Might as well do it properly and have smoother motion in 4x zoom 21:34:30 <Eddi|zuHause> multiply by 12 :) 21:35:01 <peter1139> floats! 21:35:09 <Pikka> sinks! 21:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause> also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGUnjnNEfGE 21:36:21 <Pikka> yes but 21:36:36 <Eddi|zuHause> (this was done by exposing "progress" to newgrfs 21:36:53 <Eddi|zuHause> which is in original TTD specs, but somehow omitted by OpenTTD 21:37:41 <Pikka> well if it's a newgrf specific thing it might not be so bad 21:38:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:38:18 <Pikka> but I don't want to have to choose between having sliding animated vehicles, and having 4 times as many animation frames. :) 21:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> var B8 was it 21:38:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B5CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:52 <Eddi|zuHause> + case 0x38: return (v->GetAdvanceDistance() - v->progress)*256/v->GetAdvanceDistance() - 1; 21:39:25 <Pikka> looks like it 21:39:26 <Eddi|zuHause> the original specs had something weird in there 21:39:46 <Eddi|zuHause> could just expose progress directly, though 21:39:56 <Pikka> 38 B On each round of vehicle processing, if the vehicle is not stopped, the low byte of current speed (or 3/4 of the current speed, if bit 0 of vehicle direction is clear) is subtracted from this field; if the result overflows the vehicle is to move by 1 unit of location (for trains, the vehicle additionally is to move by the number of units equal to the high byte of the current speed) 21:40:00 <Pikka> fun times 21:40:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:01 <Eddi|zuHause> progress is counting up while varB8 is counting down 21:41:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/ 21:42:19 <Eddi|zuHause> err 21:42:37 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/varB8_proper.patch 21:42:49 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, did i not upload that? 21:43:19 <Eddi|zuHause> now 21:43:30 <Eddi|zuHause> not entirely sure what the other two hunks do 21:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause> seem to just shuffle around stuff 21:45:33 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-95-17.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:02 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:49 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-13-236.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:51 <planetmaker> g'night 21:58:27 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:a4bb:2461:aff0:2b86] has joined #openttd 21:58:53 *** qwebirc76812 [~oftc-webi@c-98-250-175-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:59:07 <qwebirc76812> Hey folks, running into a problem with the android version 21:59:20 <qwebirc76812> "failed connectiong to ....." after install 21:59:50 <qwebirc76812> this a temporary issue? known? workaround? 22:01:50 <qwebirc76812> Anyone? 22:01:57 <Pikka> you should ask the developer, the android port isn't an official release 22:03:36 <Pikka> his name is pelya on the forums afaia 22:05:03 <Eddi|zuHause> 1st step: change your nick 22:05:14 <Eddi|zuHause> 2nd step: tell what you're trying to do and which step fails 22:05:23 <Eddi|zuHause> 3rd step: provide the full error message 22:06:30 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:a4bb:2461:aff0:2b86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:36 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:a4bb:2461:aff0:2b86] has joined #openttd 22:10:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: zzzzz] 22:18:38 *** fairc [~richard@e179173235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:19:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74784e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:19:49 *** qwebirc76812 [~oftc-webi@c-98-250-175-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:20:02 *** seriously [~oftc-webi@c-98-250-175-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:28 <seriously> okay that's a bit of a strange request 22:20:30 <seriously> but alright 22:20:53 <seriously> I installed the game on Android 22:20:59 <seriously> and when I run it 22:21:17 <seriously> it tries to connect and grab the data files 22:21:17 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:19 <seriously> and fails 22:21:28 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 22:22:13 <seriously> on the SDL loading screen 22:23:01 <seriously> "1/4: Connecting to http://sourceforge.net/projects/libsdl-android/files/OpenTTD/openttd-data-1.4.0-1.zip/download" 22:23:35 <seriously> a url which doesn't respond on my desktop either 22:24:25 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:24:39 *** Neil [~NucWin@82.25.94.104] has joined #openttd 22:25:17 *** Neil is now known as Guest7264 22:26:20 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 22:30:53 <seriously> see 22:31:33 <seriously> seems like something silly like a bad url reference in the sdl wrapper installer 22:32:30 <Eddi|zuHause> that seems to work here 22:32:54 <Pikka> here too. either the server was temporarily down, or the problem is on your end. 22:32:56 <seriously> trying it again 22:33:19 <seriously> maybe it was just an internet burp 22:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it was a mirror that was not available 22:34:38 *** seriously_ [~oftc-webi@cpe-069.dsl.provide.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:48 <seriously_> yup workin now 22:35:01 <seriously_> was doing that all day 22:35:42 *** seriously [~oftc-webi@c-98-250-175-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:04 <Guest7264> is it possible to install and run openttd from one folder after its been built from source? 22:36:11 *** Guest7264 is now known as NucWin 22:36:19 *** seriously [~oftc-webi@c-98-250-175-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 22:36:34 <Eddi|zuHause> create an empty openttd.cfg in the folder 22:36:45 <Eddi|zuHause> then it will use all data and save files from there 22:36:56 <Eddi|zuHause> instead of the personal directory 22:37:18 *** seriously_ [~oftc-webi@cpe-069.dsl.provide.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:25 <NucWin> im also trying to avoid make install 22:37:58 <NucWin> do i just need openttd from bin folder after make 22:38:04 *** seriously [~oftc-webi@c-98-250-175-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:38:14 <Eddi|zuHause> try "make bundle" 22:38:49 <Eddi|zuHause> the binary is not enough 22:39:08 <Eddi|zuHause> you also need language files and stuff 22:39:10 <NucWin> ah nice thats what i needed 22:39:15 <NucWin> thanks muchly 22:39:37 <NucWin> will have to remember that one for when compiling other stuff 22:39:39 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you need a graphics pack additionally to the source/compile 22:40:00 <Eddi|zuHause> but it will usually try to download those on first start 22:40:30 <Eddi|zuHause> except if you're on OSX, because nobody implemented that there 22:42:28 <NucWin> it was complaining about lzma even though i had its dev packages installed so just installed build-deps including sdl stuff 22:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause> it needs "lzma2" (also called "xz") 22:43:38 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-169-2-218.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it works without, but you can't open other people's savegames or join multiplayer servers 22:44:55 <NucWin> will have to try and remember that, wiki pages could do with stuff for building dedicated server only as package is not provided 22:45:24 *** DanMacK [~androirc@node-6438.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #openttd 22:45:31 <Eddi|zuHause> wiki pages do stuff you put on them :) 22:46:05 <Eddi|zuHause> if you found something missing from the wiki page, and you did that, then you're the expert :) 22:46:28 <DanMacK> hey all 22:48:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:51:32 <luaduck> hoy folks, is there any way to do something akin to file includes with the OTTD config file? 22:51:41 <luaduck> got a banlist I want to share between servers 22:51:52 <Eddi|zuHause> not that i know of 22:52:16 <Eddi|zuHause> but you could do a "on server start" script 22:52:48 <Eddi|zuHause> in the script subdir 22:53:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:19 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:28 *** DanMacK [~androirc@node-6438.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:47 <luaduck> good idea 23:19:18 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:25:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.188.92] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:33:35 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-173-77.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:34:15 *** KillerByte [~quassel@c-67-160-166-115.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:40 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:34 *** blathijs_ [matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 23:39:39 *** blathijs [matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:04 <NucWin> how do i get my dedicated server to use newgrf ive downloaded using content command 23:49:27 <Eddi|zuHause> put them in openttd.cfg as "path/file.grf = parameters" 23:49:43 <Eddi|zuHause> or use a savegame made by the client 23:49:45 <NucWin> umm i tried that but it seemed to delete them 23:50:06 <Eddi|zuHause> do not edit openttd.cfg while the server is running, it is overwritten on exit 23:50:31 <Eddi|zuHause> (or use the "reload config" command) 23:50:57 <Eddi|zuHause> note that newgrf changes only apply to new games, not savegames 23:52:21 <NucWin> i thought i had stopped the server and copied [newgrf] section from local client but didnt seem to wokr 23:52:24 <NucWin> work 23:53:26 <Eddi|zuHause> you probably missed something 23:56:10 <NucWin> content_download/newgrf/Total_Town_Replacement_Set-3.14.tar 23:56:20 <Wolf01> 'night all 23:56:34 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:57:36 <NucWin> total_town_replacement_set-3.14\ttrs3w.grf = 1 0 2 1 23:57:49 <NucWin> under [newgrf] 23:58:04 <NucWin> but when i quit the server its deleted again 23:58:14 <NucWin> and i have checked 3times that i stopped the server first