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00:34:12 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:40:16 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:09:16 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:18:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AC77.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22:30 *** retro [~ryba@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 01:58:42 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:27:45 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 02:27:49 <Flygon> Dumb question 02:28:04 <Flygon> IS the recommended method of making irl heightmaps (and more specifically, scenarios) still the MicroDEM method? 02:29:26 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:00:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think anyone ever made a statistic over preferrence of heightmap creation methods 03:11:44 *** Speedy` [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has joined #openttd 03:11:55 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 04:27:18 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 04:29:26 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 04:48:30 <Flygon> Eddi: Alright 04:48:48 <Flygon> A bit annoyed by the lack of giant NZ scenario, and vaguely tempted to make one :P 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4FBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67F48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:15:07 <Supercheese> Better than Old Zeeland, which is not possible in OTTD as it's below sea level :P 05:24:53 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:26:09 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:29:36 <Flygon> Old Zeeland? 05:29:54 <Flygon> Also, having 127 levels both above and below the 0m would be fucking awesome 05:30:02 <Supercheese> Yeah, in the Netherlands 05:30:02 <Flygon> ... 05:30:09 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeland 05:30:12 <Flygon> Er, excuse my Frennch 05:30:15 <Flygon> Ah, right 05:30:24 <Flygon> Sorry, got cofused because I mentioned NZ earlier x 05:30:25 <Flygon> x3* 05:30:47 <Flygon> But... yeah. I'd love 255 levels of depth, especially regarding oceans! 05:31:10 <Supercheese> I'd love a lot of things ;) 05:31:46 <Flygon> Though, you'd need some dedicated artists to handle the different water depth shadings and whatnot 05:32:05 <Flygon> That, or the graphics renderer is 100% rewritten or something :U 05:32:19 <Flygon> Yeah, let's totally build a clone of Alpha Centauri's graphics renderer :B 05:42:40 <Supercheese> Import Alpha_Centauri.py 05:42:57 <Supercheese> surely there's a lib for that somewhere 05:45:52 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:51:17 <Flygon> Supercheese: The game was largely coded in 86x ASM, C, and C++ iirc 05:51:36 <Supercheese> I am completely joking :P 05:51:43 <Flygon> I know the graphics renderer was a largely hand-done assembler (comes with being almost 100% voxel based in the late 90s, I guess) 05:51:44 <Flygon> Ah, sorry 05:52:03 <Flygon> srsly though, if I had like 05:52:06 <Flygon> A million bucks 05:52:11 <Flygon> And it was earmarked for OTTD 05:52:22 <Flygon> I'd put a voxel renderer high on the list @-@ 05:52:31 <Flygon> Help along the way to like, getting rid of some limitations 05:52:36 <Flygon> Such as height change limitations 05:55:02 <Flygon> I just managed to get molten Malteser all over my cooling vent... 05:55:13 <Flygon> Moral of the story: Don't put Malteasers near lappies 06:04:44 <Supercheese> Mmmm, Maltesers 06:04:54 <Supercheese> we only have Whoppers here in the States, which IMO aren't as good 06:05:35 <Flygon> Whoppers are a type of candy? O_O 06:05:45 <Flygon> Here, they're a Buger at Hungry Jacks 06:05:49 <Flygon> A subsidiary of Burger King 06:05:58 <Flygon> And by subsidiary, I mean, they sued Burger King 06:06:02 <Supercheese> Yeah, they are that too 06:06:10 <Supercheese> they are also a type of malt ball 06:06:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:06:14 <Flygon> Ahh, gotcha 06:06:15 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoppers 06:06:31 <Supercheese> US Maltesers, sort of 06:06:36 <Flygon> Looks Pinky 06:06:54 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-56-237.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:07:16 <Flygon> OH 06:07:17 <Flygon> MY 06:07:17 <Flygon> GOD 06:07:24 <Flygon> THERE'S WHITE MALTEASERS O_________O 06:07:33 <Supercheese> accordin' to Wiki page 06:07:38 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:07:41 <Supercheese> just saw that myself 06:08:15 <Supercheese> Crunchie Bars are the bestest candy though 06:08:27 <Supercheese> they are so hard to find here :( 06:08:51 <Supercheese> have to go to dedicated candy shoppes (which always seem to be shoppes and not shops for some reason) 06:12:16 <Flygon> What I wish wasn't import-only here 06:12:21 <Flygon> Are those Reeses things 06:12:26 <Flygon> Reeses Pieces are hard to find 06:12:33 <Flygon> But for some reason, my store sells those gigantic bars 06:12:37 <Flygon> Lemme photograph 06:12:40 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:14:07 <Supercheese> Bleh, never mix chocolate and peanut butter 06:14:11 <Supercheese> icky 06:15:42 <kiz> False 06:16:11 <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/20140607_161329.jpg But 06:16:16 <Flygon> It's only XL in American size 06:16:24 <Flygon> The Cherry Ripe on the bottom is NORMAL size 06:17:34 * andythenorth grumbles 06:17:39 <andythenorth> consist management 06:18:29 <Flygon> irl or ingame? 06:18:53 <andythenorth> in game 06:19:37 <Flygon> Gotcha 06:19:42 <Flygon> I hate doing that myself 06:19:50 <Flygon> That's one thing I really need in OpenTTD 06:19:55 <Flygon> Nested groups to put vehicles into 06:20:04 <Flygon> I'd like to put in geographic regions 06:20:10 <Flygon> Then specific parts inside regions 06:20:14 <Flygon> And then specific routes themselves 06:20:23 <Flygon> And then possibly specific branches of routes 06:20:28 <Supercheese> Nested groups are now a thing 06:20:33 <Flygon> They are? 06:20:33 <Supercheese> you can do that 06:20:35 <Supercheese> aye 06:20:37 <Flygon> Excuse my following language 06:20:41 <Flygon> Motherfucking awesome! <3 06:20:54 <Flygon> I AM SO HAPPY! <3<3,# 06:20:55 <Flygon> <3* 06:21:14 <Supercheese> @commit 26450 06:21:14 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Commit by peter1138 :: r26450 /trunk/src (11 files in 4 dirs) (2014-04-08 21:09:06 UTC) 06:21:15 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: -Feature: Hierarchical vehicle subgroups. 06:21:21 <Flygon> SOOOOO AWESOME <3 06:21:25 <Flygon> I love you guys, man 06:22:04 <Supercheese> Indeed, no one can complain, "There have been no new features lately". :) 06:23:11 <Flygon> Mm 06:23:16 <Flygon> And that's one feature that was really needed 06:23:19 <Flygon> I mean, my god... 06:23:25 <Flygon> Nested vehicular management 06:23:27 <Flygon> That's like 06:23:30 <Flygon> Like 06:23:36 <Flygon> A literal gamechanger 06:24:02 <Flygon> I can have Tram networks with over 4,000 vehicles without it being a mess now O_O 06:24:10 <andythenorth> busy work :P 06:24:15 <andythenorth> organising 06:24:22 <Flygon> Yeah, well 06:24:30 <Flygon> I don't expect to be retrofitting old games, hahaha 06:33:52 *** Guest12027 [virr@forskningsavd.se] has left #openttd [Quoth the Raven, 'Evermore.'] 06:41:11 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 06:43:36 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:44:08 *** SkeedR is now known as Guest12858 06:52:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 06:54:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:31:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:31:34 <Wolf01> hi hi 07:32:45 <Wolf01> mmh, today is no day, I only have the 32bit install disk for windows 7, and the serial for win 8 but the install disk of 8.1 :/ 07:36:53 <planetmaker> I can give you the serial for debian 7 ;) 07:37:09 <planetmaker> or even a cracked version of it which requires no serial 07:37:41 <Wolf01> or I can just go to the site and download it :P 07:38:02 <Wolf01> like I'm doing with the official W7 iso from microsoft 07:38:41 <Wolf01> but it's SP1, and I hope it's not like WXP-SP2 which didn't work with pre-SP1 keys 07:38:42 <planetmaker> my windows needs are fulfilled actually entirely by VMs provided by microsoft for free :) 07:40:18 <Wolf01> the problem is to play games on virtual machines, I could have already installed ubuntu or something else 07:58:58 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03:00 * andythenorth considers learning tcl 08:11:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B06F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:13:28 <Supercheese> 'night 08:13:30 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 08:16:33 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:16:39 *** jinks [~jinks@172.245.35.67] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 08:18:53 *** jinks [~jinks@172.245.35.67] has joined #openttd 08:28:18 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:29 *** Guest12858 [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:49 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 08:48:43 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host-2-99-60-115.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 09:04:18 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 09:04:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:09:36 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:13:15 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:13:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B06F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14:22 <andythenorth> o/ Alberth 09:14:32 <Alberth> hi hi 09:15:43 <V453000> hyyyyyyyy 09:17:45 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:35 <V453000> what is new andythenorth ? 09:19:43 <andythenorth> hrm 09:20:00 * andythenorth has nothing :P 09:20:26 <V453000> bad stuf 09:34:35 <Wolf01> o/ Alberth 10:00:49 <Rubidium> moin 10:04:01 <Wolf01> hello Rubidium 10:22:38 *** Gethiox [~gethiox@2001:41d0:52:500::6c4] has left #openttd [] 10:24:03 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:29:33 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:30:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01f5d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:32:24 <Wolf01> quak 10:34:29 <frosch123> ciao 10:35:09 <Rubidium> buongiorno 10:41:13 <Rubidium> ... and arrivederci 10:42:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26632 trunk/src/lang/english.txt (2014-06-07 10:42:17 UTC) 10:42:25 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6037]: Incorrect usage of string commands in the order GUI. 10:43:09 *** zydeco [~zydeco@77.231.195.82] has joined #openttd 10:43:17 <zydeco> I see this crash made it to 1.4.1 10:43:22 <zydeco> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/5972 10:43:59 <frosch123> obviously, it's not even fixed in trunk 10:44:23 <Wolf01> mmmh what is so difficult in executing 3 commands in sequence, why things don't work? 10:44:32 <zydeco> it's something I do a lot 10:45:33 <frosch123> well, it has "OSX" in its title, so everyone skips it when browsing the bug list :p 10:45:54 <frosch123> but i see that the diff does not touch osx code 10:46:49 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:47:31 <zydeco> haha 10:48:27 <planetmaker> well, if it's not OS-related, better don't put the OS in the bug title. frosch's statement is pretty near the truth, whether one likes it or not 10:48:33 <planetmaker> hello all, also :) 10:49:03 <zydeco> but it's not very correct either, there are also times it should be able to delete the character 10:50:15 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:43 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:19 *** SkeedR is now known as Guest12872 10:52:40 <andythenorth> frosch123: do my eyes deceive me, or is ship smoke in trunk? 10:52:52 <andythenorth> (your enhanced patch) 10:53:04 <frosch123> no, it's still on position 3 of my todo list 10:53:06 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:53:15 <andythenorth> my eyes need improving 10:54:05 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.52.160] has joined #openttd 10:58:52 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:56 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dslb-094-220-169-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:04:18 *** confound [~hdp@69.56.251.245] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:35 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:26:52 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A879.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:39:08 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host-2-99-60-115.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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In my experience it doesnât 15:25:55 <andythenorth> itâs not an easy problem to solve 15:32:04 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 15:36:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:36:42 <Wolf01> back :D 15:40:29 <Wolf01> I'm trying to figure out if starcraft recreates the registry keys automagically or I need to reinstall it 15:41:06 <Alberth> wb 15:41:44 <Wolf01> it's patching, so I think it'll work 15:41:54 <Wolf01> and now, OpenTTD :P 15:42:24 <Alberth> it will automagically recreate all registration keys that you need 15:46:29 <Wolf01> I think I never installed it, at least in this pc, always used the nightlies :P 15:52:06 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:06 <Alberth> sounds like a good idea :) 15:55:57 <Wolf01> mmmh, dropbox doesn't connect 15:57:23 <Wolf01> ok, I installed dropbox 1.1.3... 15:57:40 <Wolf01> I need to cleanup the old installers 15:57:52 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:32 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:40:35 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.23] has joined #openttd 16:46:47 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:15 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:54:19 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:42 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:35 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:42:38 <TrueBrain> GENERAL NOTICE: for the next 48 hours openttd.org will most likely lose most of its IPv6 functionality 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26633 /trunk/src/lang (french.txt korean.txt) (2014-06-07 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> french - 1 changes by glx 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by telk5093 17:46:48 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:54:32 *** iamtakin1iteasy [~Wooga@eientei.org] has joined #openttd 17:55:18 <iamtakin1iteasy> hello, please take a look at this strace -f openttd log: http://paste.eientei.org/show/190/ (regular stack trace at the bottom). any hints on what is wrong? 17:55:29 <iamtakin1iteasy> (aside from running from root) 17:58:53 *** Guest12872 [~SkeedR@cpc38-wolv14-2-0-cust352.16-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:09 <frosch123> try running it in gdb and check the gdb backtrace 18:05:01 <iamtakin1iteasy> one moment, gdb is merging 18:10:17 <iamtakin1iteasy> http://paste.eientei.org/show/191/ 18:12:14 <iamtakin1iteasy> one moment, i'll try to re-build openttd with debug symbols 18:12:42 *** MJP_ [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 18:14:36 <planetmaker> iamtakin1iteasy, do you have any base set installed? 18:14:48 <planetmaker> *graphics base set? 18:14:54 <iamtakin1iteasy> you mean like opengfx? i have opengfx 0.5.0 18:14:56 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:03 <planetmaker> yes, like that 18:15:47 <Alberth> they are found around line 200 in the strace log 18:16:10 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:58 <planetmaker> he... you play and build as root, iamtakin1iteasy ? 18:17:27 <iamtakin1iteasy> http://paste.eientei.org/show/192/ 18:17:32 <iamtakin1iteasy> nah 18:17:44 <iamtakin1iteasy> i a build with emerge and ran as root only whan it failed to run as user 18:17:56 <iamtakin1iteasy> and it surely be at non-privilidget user once i'll get it working 18:19:37 <iamtakin1iteasy> it just a testbox, anything can happen with it 18:23:01 <iamtakin1iteasy> aha 18:23:08 <iamtakin1iteasy> looks like empty md5sums are the problem 18:23:24 <iamtakin1iteasy> it tries to read them and fails to do so 18:23:26 <Alberth> access rights on the files? 18:23:59 <iamtakin1iteasy> yup 18:24:00 <planetmaker> iamtakin1iteasy, so is your opengfx.obg correct and contain the proper md5sums? 18:24:08 <iamtakin1iteasy> planetmaker: nope 18:24:09 <planetmaker> of the grfs which belong to opengfx? 18:24:17 <iamtakin1iteasy> it has blanks for md5sums 18:24:23 <planetmaker> it contains more than those, oh 18:24:25 <iamtakin1iteasy> tried to place some random md5hash, segfault is gone 18:24:26 <planetmaker> that's bad :) 18:24:42 <planetmaker> so it's a error with the opengfx which gentoo ships 18:25:12 <planetmaker> and I should check its build process to fail horribly if that fails 18:25:39 <iamtakin1iteasy> must be missing grfid executable 18:25:52 <iamtakin1iteasy> from buld of opengfx 18:25:53 <planetmaker> very likely yes 18:26:16 <iamtakin1iteasy> thank you guys, problem is located now 18:26:41 <planetmaker> thank you, too. It's still a bug. OpenTTD should not crash due to that either 18:26:56 <planetmaker> can you put that in our bug tracker so we don't forget, please? 18:27:02 <iamtakin1iteasy> okay 18:36:28 <Wolf01> reboot time 18:36:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 18:46:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:19 <Alberth> wb v2 18:52:52 <Wolf01> look how is clean my desktop now, time to restore the old icons 18:53:35 <Wolf01> I can always clean up it with a double click, the magic of stardock fences :D 19:13:58 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 19:15:20 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:17:10 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.74.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:04 <andythenorth> for those not in the know 19:24:10 <andythenorth> python SimpleHTTPServer is very handy 19:32:31 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:33:00 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 19:35:14 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:37:51 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 19:38:42 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 19:46:12 *** glx is now known as Guest12908 19:46:12 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:46:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:52:15 *** Guest12908 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:25 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host-2-99-60-115.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:56 <frosch123> andythenorth: isn't that what eints uses? 19:55:11 <andythenorth> eints is bottle iirc 19:55:29 <planetmaker> eints uses bottle 19:55:38 <andythenorth> SimpleHTTPServer is stupidly useful 19:55:48 <andythenorth> Iâm using it to serve static html into windows VMs 19:56:00 <andythenorth> otherwise I have to upload them somewhere, or dick around with shared volumes 19:56:30 <andythenorth> cd to the dir you want as site root, then type: python -m SimpleHTTPServer 19:56:39 <andythenorth> something I wish Iâd known years ago 19:56:48 <planetmaker> sounds useful 20:06:55 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C306E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:09:05 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 20:10:20 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 20:11:05 *** vb [~oftc-webi@79.114.81.161] has joined #openttd 20:11:19 <vb> does anyone know how to install openttd in knoppix? 20:11:44 <planetmaker> download, unzip, run 20:12:35 <vb> hmm 20:12:36 <vb> not working 20:12:40 <vb> what file do i need exactly? 20:12:53 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/download-stable 20:13:01 <planetmaker> the generic linux one 20:14:08 <vb> doesn't start :( 20:16:45 *** vb [~oftc-webi@79.114.81.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:17:12 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host-2-99-60-115.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:17:15 <TrueBrain> best error description ever :D 20:18:22 <Rubidium> but... vb is quite fond of... "On Error Resume Next" ;) 20:18:49 <TrueBrain> valid point :) 20:34:01 <andythenorth> hmm 20:34:03 <andythenorth> time to play ottd 20:43:58 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:2c2f:e99a:bbf5:764b] has joined #openttd 21:26:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:36:13 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 21:43:22 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01f5d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:44:10 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 21:57:21 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:25:05 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-56-237.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:40 <Wolf01> 'night 22:25:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:31:12 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:31:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:33:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B06F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:34 <UukGoblin> imagine 3 single-tracked stations connected such that a train can get from any station to any other station. I'd like to have 2 trains that try to maximize the loading on the 3 stations... 23:13:52 <UukGoblin> basically, if there's a train loading on station A, I'd like the train to move to B or C 23:14:12 <UukGoblin> rather than have it wait for the one at A to finish loading... 23:14:25 <UukGoblin> is this possible? 23:22:44 <UukGoblin> I seem to need an order like "Go to A or B depending on which path is free" 23:38:00 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 23:40:39 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:49:47 <planetmaker> such conditional orders are not possible 23:50:15 <planetmaker> though you can make quite elaborate conditional orders 23:51:12 *** SylvieLorxu [~sylvie@dslb-094-220-169-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:37 <planetmaker> there is no concept of a "free track" at the time the next order is decided 23:51:47 <planetmaker> it would also result in a chicken-egg problem 23:54:33 <UukGoblin> any idea how to solve it then? 23:54:48 <UukGoblin> like, the transfer of passenger between 3 nearby cities 23:55:10 <UukGoblin> early in the game, when you don't have money to build elaborate structures 23:57:20 <UukGoblin> I'm not even sure what to do between 2 cities... should I wait for a full load everywhere, just in 1 of the cities, or should I just move the vehicles as fast as possible?