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BaNaNaS (outbound) 03:42:51 *** kamnet [~kamnet@cpe-76-177-66-219.natcky.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:37:27 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d02585b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:46:01 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d02585b.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4CF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:02:18 <kamnet> Evening again 05:15:12 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d02585b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:25:27 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d02585b.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 05:34:50 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 05:57:04 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:17:18 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 06:25:44 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d02585b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:33:07 *** roidal [~roland@cm140-210.liwest.at] has joined #openttd 06:40:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:42:03 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-203-122.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 06:42:14 *** Alkel_U3 [~alkel@178.17.8.174] has joined #openttd 06:49:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-203-122.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:52:12 <andythenorth> o/ 06:53:45 <Flygon_> \o 06:53:56 <Pikka> o? 06:56:53 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 06:57:02 <andythenorth> exactly 06:57:20 <andythenorth> is that captain hook? 06:57:23 <andythenorth> tick-tock 07:02:44 <andythenorth> hmm 07:02:52 * andythenorth has a GS mechanic, but no catchy narrative 07:03:20 <andythenorth> Pikka bob, ^ mechanic is âdeliver at least n amount to all industries of type xâ to win 07:03:26 <andythenorth> what is reason please? 07:03:43 <Pikka> reason? does there have to be a reason? 07:03:50 <andythenorth> usually 07:03:57 <andythenorth> even if itâs tenuous 07:04:01 <andythenorth> or spurious 07:04:16 <andythenorth> or dubious 07:05:04 * andythenorth needs a name 07:05:11 <andythenorth> something like âUniversal Coverageâ or something 07:23:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:38:51 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:38:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:41:36 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-245-34.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12:23 *** roidal [~roland@cm140-210.liwest.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 08:30:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:32:38 *** Pikka [~Octomom@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:34:26 *** Pikka [~sammich@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:34:56 <Pikka> what 08:37:02 <andythenorth> what what 08:37:21 * andythenorth will to FIRS today 08:37:46 <Pikka> huzzah 08:38:28 <andythenorth> pikka has blogged 08:38:32 * andythenorth reads 08:39:27 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:01 * Pikka did some work on coastlines today, went well. 08:40:35 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:41:04 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has joined #openttd 08:42:41 <andythenorth> Pikka: greyhound? o_O 08:42:47 <andythenorth> pineapple trucks are go? 08:45:25 <Pikka> they are 08:46:25 <andythenorth> dekatora also? http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Deco-Truck-0653-copy.jpg 08:53:21 <Pikka> maybe for kick starter backers? ;) 09:13:53 <V453000> maybe just caused by me not being american but that RV looks weird to me :P 09:14:41 <Pikka> weird compared to what? slugs? :P 09:17:08 <V453000> no, "a car* a truck* a bus" I would imagine in europez 09:19:34 <V453000> sligs look perfectly normal too :P 09:19:49 <andythenorth> the dekotora looks weird? 09:21:17 <Pikka> the greyhound bus I assume 09:21:55 <V453000> that. :) 09:41:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 09:45:40 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09:18 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.179.109] has joined #openttd 10:25:38 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 10:55:32 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 10:57:15 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:28 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.178.252.235] has joined #openttd 11:06:26 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@186.212.251.30] has joined #openttd 11:08:37 <Flygon_> Nnnrg 11:08:41 <Flygon_> That satisfying feeling 11:08:43 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 11:08:44 <Flygon> When 11:08:56 <Flygon> A freight train juuuust barely hits it's maximum speed 11:09:03 <Flygon> After juuust enough acceleration 11:09:05 <Flygon> On flat ground 11:09:41 <__ln__> *its 11:10:03 <Flygon> You're correct 11:11:06 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.178.252.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:16 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 11:15:55 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D57DCA52.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 11:31:57 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest3466 11:32:02 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:34:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 11:34:23 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 11:37:57 *** Guest3466 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:54 *** kamnet [~kamnet@cpe-76-177-66-219.natcky.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: So long, and thanks for all the SQUID] 12:09:01 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:31 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause> Flygon: sounds like it's underpowered 12:36:12 <Flygon> Sounds like it was 1924 12:36:20 <Flygon> Only used two steam locos <_> 12:37:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DDB3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:05:32 *** tneo [~tneo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:42 *** tneo [~tneo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:14:27 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm... wtf are the controls in KSP? i've started the tutorial, and am stuck with attaching the fuel tank... 13:15:12 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 13:15:26 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i can't even go to any menu... 13:20:21 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest3479 13:20:21 *** Guest3479 [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause> this tutorial isn't much of a tutorial 13:29:35 <Eddi|zuHause> no, this just doesn't work... 13:29:42 <Eddi|zuHause> can ANYBODY explain it to me please? 13:33:21 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-255-124.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:35:51 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:39:46 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:40:32 <andythenorth> ha ha 13:40:36 <andythenorth> I couldnât work KSP either 13:40:43 <andythenorth> despite 4 people in my office explaining it 13:40:56 <andythenorth> I manage to get a Kerbal into a rocket, but I couldnât start the engine 13:41:07 <andythenorth> I did get the Kerbal to jump out of the capsule though 13:44:26 *** supermop_ [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:51:12 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 14:19:12 *** Ox4 [~user@213.187.248.13] has joined #openttd 14:19:15 <Ox4> hey guys 14:20:05 <Ox4> could somebody explain me this one: Deliver 100 bags of mail 100 squares in 100 days: 14:20:05 <Ox4> £55 * 100 squares * (1 - 80*0.004 - 10*0.004) = £3520? 14:20:15 <Ox4> I got it from the wiki page: https://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Delivery_payment_rates 14:20:49 <Ox4> early delivery time for mail is 20 and late is 90 days 14:21:01 *** shirish [~quassel@59.94.52.20] has joined #openttd 14:22:27 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:33 <Ox4> from what time the counter starts? when the one unit of cargo is loaded in a vehicle, or when a vehicle arrives? 14:22:37 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 14:29:23 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i'm stuck at the very beginning. it says "fuel tank goes green when it's at a suitible position", but no matter where i place it, it doesn't work 14:30:05 *** supermop_ [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6C776.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:37:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DDB3.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:34 *** shirish_ [~quassel@117.195.119.10] has joined #openttd 14:39:59 <Johnnei> @Ox4, Tried to look it up for you but I can't really spot where exactly the transit time is being reset. (but I'm also very new to the code) 14:45:00 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:30 <andythenorth> 50 / 66 14:50:15 <Rubidium> Ox4: https://wiki.openttd.org/Cargo_income is much clearer with respect to the actual calculations and such 14:50:34 <Rubidium> the one in game mechanics looks kinda iffy to me at best 14:51:15 <Eddi|zuHause> Ox4: be aware that "days" occasionally means "2.5 days" 14:53:27 <Ox4> Eddi|zuHause: interesting... thank you 14:56:52 <Rubidium> my calculations end up with about 5100 instead of 3520 for 100 units of mail over 100 squares in 100 days 14:57:30 <Rubidium> @calc 4550*100*100*(100/2.5)*(255-(40-20))*2**-21 14:57:31 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 203943.252563 14:58:11 <Rubidium> hmm... what's going wrong there... 14:58:32 <Johnnei> @calc 55 * 100 * (1 - 80 * 0.004 - 10 * 0.004) 14:58:32 <DorpsGek> Johnnei: 3520.0 14:59:05 <Rubidium> @calc 4550*100*100*(255-((100/2.5)-20))/2**21 14:59:06 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 5098.58131409 14:59:10 <Rubidium> there... that's the one 14:59:31 <Johnnei> Or even more elaborate: 14:59:33 <Johnnei> @calc 55 * 100 * (1 - (100 - 20) * 0.004 - (100 - 90) * 0.004) 14:59:34 <DorpsGek> Johnnei: 3520.0 15:00:54 <Rubidium> @calc 55*100*(1-((100/2.5)-20)*0.004) 15:00:54 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 5060 15:01:18 <Rubidium> I did not add the last one, because (100/2.5) < 90 15:01:35 <Johnnei> It does work out, but the examples given are straight to the answer and don't show intermediate steps 15:02:09 <Rubidium> well.. 3520 is wrong, 5098 is "right"; just compare it with the in-game payment graph 15:03:06 <Rubidium> mail for the first 50 days is just below GBP 112 for 10 units over 20 tiles 15:03:18 <Ox4> anyway I didn't find from what point the counter starts :-( 15:04:09 <Rubidium> @calc 55*100-(1-(50-20)*0.004-(50-90)*0.004) 15:04:09 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 5498.96 15:04:51 <Rubidium> hmm... that formula on the game mechanics even misses the amount... 15:05:07 <Rubidium> in any case, counting is whenever it's in a vehicle 15:05:13 <Johnnei> The example given on the page assumes that no form of inflation has applied though 15:08:08 <Ox4> Rubidium: hence, if capacity of a vehicle is smaller then the earining is bigger, right? 15:12:07 <andythenorth> 51 / 66 15:12:13 <andythenorth> @calc 51/66 15:12:14 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 0.772727272727 15:15:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Ox4: you earn more if the vehicle is immediately full on loading 15:17:55 <Ox4> ok, one more question 15:19:12 <Ox4> I am testing autoreplace feature and am receiving (money limit) message, but the current balance is 0k 15:19:30 <Ox4> why the money limit is triggered? 15:19:31 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D57DCA52.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31:07 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:31:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:43:46 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3E09.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:47:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Ox4: the money limit as set in the settings is what must be leftover after the replacement 15:47:42 <Eddi|zuHause> so if the replacement costs 50k, and the limit is 200k, you need to have 250k for the replacement to happen 15:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i think 200k is the default 15:49:23 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 15:49:56 <Ox4> Eddi|zuHause: understood, thank you 15:54:29 <andythenorth> pyflakes hates me again 15:54:43 <Alberth> :( 15:54:58 <andythenorth> unused imports 15:55:03 <andythenorth> over-enthusiastic find and replace :P 15:55:14 <Alberth> :) 15:55:29 <Alberth> really unused ? 15:55:49 <Alberth> I had such a report too, but the import did have an important side-effect I needed 15:56:04 <andythenorth> these are legit reports 15:56:10 <andythenorth> nvm 15:58:40 *** zwamkat [~zwamkat@vuursmurf.smurfer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:45 *** zwamkat [~zwamkat@vuursmurf.smurfer.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:28 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:56 <Terkhen> hello 16:16:04 <andythenorth> lo Terkhen 16:19:24 *** Celestar [~Celestar@cos-eq2.com] has joined #openttd 16:31:17 <andythenorth> 54/66 16:36:14 <Alberth> nice! 16:45:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A180FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:50:10 <andythenorth> 12 more :P 16:58:37 *** fjb is now known as Guest3510 16:58:38 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00d7ce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 17:02:57 *** Guest3510 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:17 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:12:32 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 17:21:25 *** Zippyvinman [6402153f@107.161.19.53] has joined #openttd 17:21:31 <Zippyvinman> Hello? 17:22:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 17:22:37 <Zippyvinman> Anyone around? 17:24:59 <Zippyvinman> Ayyyyyyyyyy anyone? 17:25:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27260 trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp (2015-04-28 19:25:21 +0200 ) 17:25:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r27244): economy.allow_town_roads should not affect town placement during world generation. 17:26:03 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 17:26:27 <Zippyvinman> Let me know if anyone's around 17:26:43 <frosch123> there are 140 people in this channel 17:26:58 <Zippyvinman> I dont really know how IRC works 17:27:13 <andythenorth> :) 17:27:17 <Zippyvinman> I was directed here from Reddit, I'm trying to set up an openTTD server 17:32:01 <Zippyvinman> Anyone think they'd be able to help? 17:33:49 <frosch123> http://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/3440lf/im_planning_on_starting_a_linux_server_for_me_and/ <- you already have an answer 17:34:25 <frosch123> anyway, you didn't ask a question 17:34:33 <Zippyvinman> Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I read on the wiki and it said about that. I have the debian server but I don't really know what I'm doing, hahaha 17:34:44 <Zippyvinman> said about the IRC* 17:34:56 <frosch123> apt-get install openttd 17:35:02 <frosch123> sudo apt-get install openttd 17:35:03 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [SeaMonkey 2.33.1/20150410200411]] 17:35:05 <frosch123> actually 17:35:15 <frosch123> then upload a savegame made with a client 17:35:24 <frosch123> then run openttd -D -g mysavegame.sav 17:35:32 <Zippyvinman> but I need to get open TTD don't I? 17:35:45 <frosch123> sudo apt-get install openttd 17:35:58 <Zippyvinman> just typing that will go find it online and download/install it? 17:36:19 <Zippyvinman> or I need to put the installer or zip on the USB im booting from 17:36:26 <frosch123> well, or use your package manager 17:36:37 <Zippyvinman> I'm unsure what that is 17:36:38 <frosch123> however you usually install stuff on your system 17:36:38 <Zippyvinman> hahahaha 17:36:46 <Zippyvinman> Im on a PC rn 17:36:48 <Zippyvinman> Windows 7 17:36:53 <Zippyvinman> I'm using another computer 17:37:05 <Zippyvinman> I want to install it on it to be just used for openTTD 17:37:13 <andythenorth> he needs to use whatever Debian provides for getting ports 17:37:16 * andythenorth has no idea :P 17:37:31 <frosch123> Zippyvinman: i have no idea what you are missing 17:37:35 <Zippyvinman> I think I'll be able to open ports once I get there 17:37:37 <Zippyvinman> uh 17:37:38 <frosch123> if you installed debian, you can also install openttd 17:37:45 <frosch123> openttd is part of all major linux distributions 17:37:49 <Zippyvinman> one sec 17:38:08 <andythenorth> frosch123: that concept is quite magical if youâre unfamiliar with linux and ports trees and such :) 17:38:09 <Zippyvinman> I went here https://www.debian.org/distrib/ 17:38:25 <Zippyvinman> and got the small USB install for AMD processor 17:38:41 <frosch123> so, you do not have it installed? 17:38:44 <andythenorth> what should happen if he just types âopenttdâ or such? 17:39:09 <Zippyvinman> The computer that I have plugged the USB in with the ISO in, I booted from ISO, and I have the command line I believe 17:40:03 <frosch123> ok, type "whoami" 17:40:14 <frosch123> does it say "root"? or something else? 17:40:17 <Zippyvinman> got nothing 17:40:23 <Zippyvinman> doesn't take keystrokes look like 17:40:30 <Zippyvinman> typing makes beepps 17:40:45 <frosch123> ok, please refer to the manual for installing linux then :) 17:41:29 <Zippyvinman> ohhhhhhhh ok 17:41:29 <andythenorth> hmm 17:41:30 <andythenorth> https://magvar.wordpress.com/2012/09/08/openttd-server-or-how-to-build-enormous-railroads-virtually/ 17:41:35 * andythenorth learns how it works 17:44:43 <Zippyvinman> Can I run Ubuntu or no? It's a bit easier with a GUI for me but I'm not sure if I can run it through it 17:45:00 <frosch123> why don't you just run a server on your windows machine? 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27261 trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt (2015-04-28 19:45:14 +0200 ) 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> swedish - 1 changes by abbedabb 17:46:09 <Zippyvinman> I probably could. Does it use a lot of RAM? 17:46:13 <Zippyvinman> ram* 17:46:20 <frosch123> no, zero 17:46:26 <frosch123> exactly the same as a client 17:46:31 <Zippyvinman> one sec 17:46:45 <frosch123> if you are playing yourself, you need no extra resources 17:46:56 <Zippyvinman> I'll be playing with 2-3 friends 17:47:04 <frosch123> doesn't matter 17:47:17 <frosch123> if you are playing, you get the server for free 17:47:20 <frosch123> no extra resouces 17:47:29 <frosch123> the clients simulate the game state, not the server 17:47:32 <Zippyvinman> What if they want to play when I'm not on? 17:47:38 <Zippyvinman> like in the same game 17:47:45 <frosch123> well, your client needs to keep running 17:48:11 <frosch123> whatever computer is the server needs to keep running 17:48:24 <Zippyvinman> Could I run the server separately on the same computer? Like a non-gui version that runs in the background that I can connect to? 17:48:37 <frosch123> then you need twice the cpu power 17:48:52 <frosch123> you can just run the gui client, and join spectators when not playing yourself 17:49:10 <Zippyvinman> TBH I could just run it on other computer directly 17:49:15 <frosch123> running a separate server on the same machine does not add anything good 17:49:16 <Zippyvinman> it has 7 installed I believe 17:49:59 <Zippyvinman> I think I'm gonna do a fresh install of 7 on my other PC. How should I go about deleting everything? I can do that from the install right? 17:50:05 <Zippyvinman> I have the disc 17:50:35 <frosch123> we do not ship openttd on discs 17:50:43 <Zippyvinman> I mean my windows 7, haha 17:50:57 <frosch123> no idea, never installed 7 17:51:14 <Zippyvinman> I'll just try it without reinstalling, I need to open ports for MP still, yes? 17:51:33 <frosch123> yes, by default noone but the nsa may connect to your computer 17:51:39 <frosch123> you have to let your friends in 17:52:40 <frosch123> you have to battle the firewall in yuor router, and in your computer 17:52:48 <frosch123> when your server is on servers.openttd.org, you have won 17:53:12 <glx> (if advertising is enabled ;) ) 17:53:17 <Zippyvinman> I have my computer's firewall turned to low, so that shouldn't be a problem. Is that a metaphor for I just gotta try it out and see if it'll work? 17:53:38 <Zippyvinman> And how does advertising work? that's like if I wanted it public right? 17:53:45 <frosch123> you will have to configure your router in any case 17:54:13 <glx> yes advertising shows it in the list 17:54:16 <frosch123> advertise means that it will be listed on servers.openttd.org and your friends can see it 17:54:28 <Zippyvinman> Yeah, I'll be able to do that. I need to do it on both my router, as well as the modem? 17:54:43 <Zippyvinman> or just one of the two 17:54:54 <frosch123> if you do not advertise you have to tell your friends your ip address, but if it doesn't work you will have no idea whethe the problem is on your or their side 17:55:07 <glx> only the server needs ports opening 17:55:10 <frosch123> so, for the first time you should definetly use "advertised" 17:55:44 <Zippyvinman> Yeah, I can just put a password on it, right? 17:55:57 <frosch123> if it is necessary 17:56:04 <frosch123> but usually noone joins your server 17:56:17 <frosch123> if you take a look at servers.openttd.org, most are empty 17:57:48 <Zippyvinman> Ah, ok, installing openttd on the computer now 18:00:48 <Zippyvinman> Ok, so I'm gonna log onto my modem or router to open ports, does it matter which? 18:01:03 <frosch123> @ports 18:01:03 <DorpsGek> frosch123: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 18:01:36 <Zippyvinman> But on Router or Modem? 18:02:20 <frosch123> i have no idea what's the difference of those two 18:02:28 <frosch123> i only have one box to connect to the internet 18:02:45 <Alberth> everything that blocks outbound communication from your computer to "the internet" at those ports 18:03:11 <Zippyvinman> My modem sends internet to my router I thoughtt 18:03:42 <Zippyvinman> I have Verizon Fios and it's like a 2 in 1 dealio, or maybe it's just a second router 18:03:47 <Zippyvinman> pretty sure it's a modem 18:03:55 <Zippyvinman> I'll log into it first and see if it works 18:03:56 <glx> usually outbound is not blocked, but inbound needs unblocking 18:04:11 <Alberth> good point glx 18:06:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host246-73-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:07:15 *** Zippyvinman [6402153f@107.161.19.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:07:20 *** Zippyvinman [6402153f@107.161.19.53] has joined #openttd 18:07:37 <Wolf01> hi hi 18:07:53 <Zippyvinman> Ok, I got onto the modem 18:08:08 <Zippyvinman> under firewall and portforwarding 18:08:49 <frosch123> Wolf01: only 5.5 days till full moon :) 18:08:53 <Zippyvinman> It says there are two IPs for the computer I'm trying to host it on, one with a 0 and one with a 1 at the end, how do I know which to use? 18:08:56 <Zippyvinman> cmd 18:09:02 <Zippyvinman> wrong computer ^ 18:10:25 <Zippyvinman> Ok so its asking for source ports and destination ports 18:10:43 <Zippyvinman> which is it that I'm putting "Any" for and which gets the above? 18:11:00 <frosch123> set both to the same value 18:11:20 <frosch123> ports 3978 and 3979 18:11:22 <Zippyvinman> Ok one sec 18:11:22 <frosch123> both udp and tcp 18:11:41 <frosch123> sometimes you can do that with two forwards, sometimes you have to configure four 18:12:10 *** thomas002003 [~Thomas@2a01:e34:eef6:9530:a89d:4e1e:8a26:e2ef] has joined #openttd 18:12:49 <Zippyvinman> hmmm ok I'll start with the 3979 and then UDP 3978 and TCP 3978 18:15:07 <Zippyvinman> Ok, got them open 18:15:19 <Zippyvinman> Now I go on the client and try to start it up? 18:15:38 <frosch123> yes, just in main menu go to multiplayer, start server, advertised:yes, start 18:15:47 <frosch123> then hope it shows up on servers.openttd.org 18:18:15 <Zippyvinman> darn, not there 18:18:44 <Zippyvinman> should the ports be Any -> 3978/3979? 18:18:51 <Zippyvinman> instead of itself 18:23:22 <Zippyvinman> hmmm tryiing out some other stuff 18:24:10 <Zippyvinman> It's ok if I have a different DNS on my comp right? 18:24:21 *** ginko_ [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:03 *** thomas002003 [~Thomas@2a01:e34:eef6:9530:a89d:4e1e:8a26:e2ef] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 18:30:05 <Zippyvinman> Anyone else around? 18:30:42 <Zippyvinman> OHHHHHH 18:31:32 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:25 <frosch123> https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/ottdports.png <- it should look something like that 18:33:34 <Zippyvinman> oh shhit I messed something up 18:34:00 <Zippyvinman> I accidentally deleted something that popped up, shouldn't have deleted it... 18:34:53 <Zippyvinman> It was a UPnP IGD UDP something like that. I tookk a picture before I deleted it so If I fucked up I'd at least know what it was 18:35:01 <Zippyvinman> but I have no Idea how to make it again :( 18:35:50 <Zippyvinman> im gonna restart my router and hope for the best 18:35:52 <Zippyvinman> :////////// 18:35:59 <Zippyvinman> I may reconnect brb 18:38:31 *** Zippyvinman [6402153f@107.161.19.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:39:40 *** Zippyvinman [6402153f@107.161.19.53] has joined #openttd 18:39:45 <Zippyvinman> ok, back 18:42:32 <Zippyvinman> @ports 18:42:33 <DorpsGek> Zippyvinman: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 18:44:11 <Zippyvinman> now if I wanted to connect from IP through my other computer, which would I use? 18:44:15 <Zippyvinman> My computer's external IP? 18:44:29 <Zippyvinman> Like assuming it works 18:44:50 <Zippyvinman> nvm, isn't showing up on server list 18:48:06 <Zippyvinman> anyone else around? 18:51:20 <Alberth> you really want an answer to that question? :) 18:51:46 <Zippyvinman> How about this : anyone wanna help me out :'(> 18:52:43 <Alberth> ask a question you need an answer for 18:53:03 <Zippyvinman> why wont this work even though I believe the ports are correct 18:54:55 <Alberth> it showed up on the server list right? 18:55:07 <Zippyvinman> This is so weird, the laptop's IPv4 address keeps changing 18:55:10 <Zippyvinman> No, it's not 18:55:32 <Zippyvinman> it keepps changing from 192.168.1.190 to 192.168.1.191 18:55:39 <Zippyvinman> it's changed from 0 to 1 now 0 again 18:55:51 <Alberth> 192.168 is all local LAN 18:56:04 <Zippyvinman> yeah, but it has two options for port forwarding 18:56:15 <Zippyvinman> nothing else has 2 addresses 18:57:10 <Alberth> you're forwarding a local LAN address? 18:57:32 <Zippyvinman> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 18:57:40 <Zippyvinman> I think it's because I have 2 networks adapters 18:57:51 <Zippyvinman> I'm trying to forward it to my laptop 18:57:52 <Zippyvinman> the ports 18:58:03 <Zippyvinman> I think so yeah 18:58:15 <Alberth> nobody here has an aidea of your network setup 18:58:23 <Alberth> except you hopefully :) 18:58:46 <Zippyvinman> My laptop I'm using to run the server is connected by wireless and wired to my modem 18:59:35 <Zippyvinman> i'll dc the wire so it's wireless only 18:59:56 <Zippyvinman> yeah, wireless is 191 19:00:56 <Zippyvinman> Ok, should I send a picture of the ports im forwarding? 19:02:39 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D9783BEE.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:02:48 <frosch123> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ <- you can also try that one 19:04:06 <Zippyvinman> hmmm says its closed 19:04:12 <Zippyvinman> heres what it looks like 19:04:13 <Zippyvinman> http://i.imgur.com/CXySkpa.png 19:05:31 <Zippyvinman> it says the 3979 is open 19:05:34 <Zippyvinman> 78 closed 19:05:35 <Zippyvinman> one sec 19:06:16 <Zippyvinman> now it says its closed 19:06:28 <Zippyvinman> now open 19:07:39 <Zippyvinman> oh snap! 19:07:47 <Zippyvinman> I got the computer connected 19:07:52 <Zippyvinman> I had to add it manually 19:07:58 <Zippyvinman> I guess advertising it just wont work 19:08:10 <Zippyvinman> but typing my IP works fine 19:08:32 <Zippyvinman> Could you do me a favor and see if you can find it too? 19:09:06 <frosch123> what version are you running? 19:10:28 <Zippyvinman> 1.5 19:10:38 <Zippyvinman> the stable 19:13:52 <frosch123> no server at your external ip 19:13:59 <frosch123> i.e. the one you use on irc 19:15:19 <Zippyvinman> is that 100.2.21.63 19:15:19 <Zippyvinman> ? 19:15:26 <frosch123> no 19:15:43 <Zippyvinman> try that 19:15:47 <frosch123> the goon squad? 19:15:49 <Zippyvinman> yeah 19:15:51 <Zippyvinman> password zippy 19:15:54 <Zippyvinman> :-))))) 19:17:03 <Zippyvinman> Thanks so much! 19:17:32 <frosch123> yw 19:17:43 <Zippyvinman> what are some good things to get for the server? 19:17:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:17:59 <frosch123> players 19:18:02 <Zippyvinman> like mods plugins stuff like tthat 19:18:03 <Zippyvinman> hahaha 19:18:09 <Zippyvinman> just me and my friends will be using it 19:18:45 <frosch123> you should set it to pause when noone is playing 19:18:56 <Zippyvinman> How do I do that? Is that in the cfg? 19:19:02 <frosch123> just experiment with the rest 19:19:37 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/Min_active_clients 19:20:11 <frosch123> then you can just join spectators when you are not playing 19:20:19 <frosch123> and it will pause when everyone is specator or left 19:20:50 <frosch123> if you want to play at different times of the day 19:20:57 <Zippyvinman> ahhhh ok 19:21:14 <Zippyvinman> any way to set the time change to be slower? 19:21:19 <frosch123> you should set "vehicle never expire:on", "breakdowns:off" and start in the future when everything is available 19:21:21 <Zippyvinman> but the economy stays the same speed and etc? 19:21:38 <frosch123> otherwise your breaks downs while you are not playing 19:21:39 <Zippyvinman> ah ok 19:22:20 *** roidal [~roland@cm140-210.liwest.at] has joined #openttd 19:27:05 <Zippyvinman> now do these settings only apply to the server? 19:27:30 <frosch123> they apply to games 19:27:50 <frosch123> set them on the server, start a game, and joining clients will use them 19:28:20 <Zippyvinman> I can't edit these in game, right? 19:28:25 <Zippyvinman> only via the file 19:28:31 <frosch123> you can on the server 19:28:35 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:28:36 <frosch123> via the settings gui, or via the console 19:29:06 <frosch123> but mind that changing stuff in main menu only affects new games 19:29:15 <frosch123> and changing stuff within a game only affects the running game 19:29:24 <frosch123> the settings are part of the savegame 19:29:56 <Zippyvinman> ah ok 19:32:06 <Zippyvinman> what's a good max length for trains? 19:32:29 <frosch123> just experiment 19:32:38 <frosch123> there are as many opinions as there are people here 19:32:40 <Wolf01> I use 5-8 tiles 19:32:55 <Zippyvinman> I can change any settings from the server while playing and it applies instantly right? 19:33:09 <frosch123> most, not all 19:33:25 <Zippyvinman> disasters/accidents yes? 19:33:26 <frosch123> you can see in the gui, what is shaded and what is changeable 19:33:31 <Zippyvinman> ahhh ok 19:34:03 <Zippyvinman> What's your opinions of AI players? 19:34:40 <frosch123> there are different types of ais 19:34:56 <frosch123> competetive ones, normally playing ones, and passive ones 19:35:09 <frosch123> the passive ones only build road networks and stuff for other players to use 19:35:35 <frosch123> if you are not playing all the time, i think it makes little sense to run a competetiive ai along your friends 19:36:43 <Alkel_U3> disasters are pretty annoying in a multiplayer game, especially the large UFO. You come back after a few decades of absence to find out your mainline railway's been blasted and the resulting jam ranges across a half of the map 19:38:34 <Zippyvinman> LOL 19:40:31 <Zippyvinman> where is auto pause located? 19:41:27 <frosch123> likely not in the gui 19:41:30 <frosch123> only in console 19:41:52 <Zippyvinman> what's the command for that? 19:41:56 <Zippyvinman> I know its the ~ 19:41:57 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/Console 19:41:58 <Zippyvinman> ~ 19:42:03 <Zippyvinman> ah 19:42:09 <frosch123> setting min_active_clients 1 19:42:32 *** fiesfmwa [~ginko@port-92-194-126-85.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:24 <Zippyvinman> where do I join the spectators team? 19:43:29 <Zippyvinman> like the server 19:43:46 <frosch123> in the toolbar 19:43:53 <frosch123> the face-button 19:44:06 <frosch123> you can select the various companies, and "join spectators" 19:44:50 <Zippyvinman> does there need to be at least one company? I don't see anything about spectators 19:45:08 <frosch123> if there is no company at all, you are obviously specator 19:45:12 <frosch123> then there is only "new company" 19:45:18 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:43 <Zippyvinman> im unnamed company 1 19:47:05 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/Multiplayer#Join_Spectators 19:48:28 *** ginko_ [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:59 <Zippyvinman> thats so weird 19:49:02 <Zippyvinman> I dont have that option 19:49:06 <Zippyvinman> ohhh 19:49:07 <Zippyvinman> now i do 19:49:11 <Zippyvinman> that's so weird 19:49:15 <Zippyvinman> I didn't have that before 19:49:57 <Zippyvinman> hmmmm I don't see the server now for some reason 19:50:33 <Zippyvinman> says server offline 19:50:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:27 *** fiesfmwa [~ginko@port-92-194-126-85.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:24 *** Alkel_U3 [~alkel@178.17.8.174] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 19:55:46 <Zippyvinman> nevermind, got it up 19:55:49 <Zippyvinman> I gotta go anyway 19:55:55 <Zippyvinman> be back later if I need more help, thanks! 19:56:21 *** Zippyvinman [6402153f@107.161.19.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:04:22 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D9783BEE.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:05:51 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:06:49 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:13:55 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 20:21:21 <tyteen4a03> what is the maximum of the sprite cache? 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21:29:53 <Supercheese> hard to sell what folks can get for free 21:30:04 <Supercheese> although some folks do have success with that 21:34:30 <__ln__> some people would certainly buy a box even if the contents would be free to download, but indeed what would be the selling point for the big audience? 21:34:57 <__ln__> (i can imagine some, but all of those require quite a bit of money) 21:39:19 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3E09.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 21:46:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A180FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:44 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:51:42 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@voyager.jontysewell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:41 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@voyager.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 22:01:41 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:38 *** Pikka [~sammich@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:17 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:46 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:55:00 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:55:45 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:07:34 <kamnet> People who are too afraid to download from the Internet, but not too afraid to order online from Amazon? 23:11:36 <FLHerne> Doing that might get someone to ask awkward questions about the origins of early OTTD? 23:13:21 <FLHerne> OTOH, if anyone cared they'd probably have cared before now 23:17:32 *** |Truth| [~|Truth|@c-73-177-155-170.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:19:26 <Supercheese> Herr Sawyer himself seems pretty chill about OTTD 23:20:28 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6C776.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:31:33 <FLHerne> [ 23:31:35 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 23:48:34 *** Zabot [~TheRealZa@24-216-194-183.static.vinc.in.charter.com] has joined #openttd 23:49:05 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-98-249.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 23:52:11 <kamnet> I don't know about chill, but at least sees there's nothing to be gained by attempting to squash it. 23:54:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-203-122.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:57 *** Pikka [~sammich@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd