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00:05:14 *** Pulec [~pulec@2a01:4f8:110:1463:127::2] has joined #openttd 00:15:44 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:22:18 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f048086077.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 00:23:56 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has quit [] 00:37:51 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has joined #openttd 00:51:55 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:14 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08e030.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:09:57 *** liq3 is now known as Guest2555 01:09:57 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:14:56 *** Guest2555 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:37 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 01:49:17 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:55:51 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:56:11 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has joined #openttd 02:37:55 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:37:24 *** Xal [~Xal@S0106881fa12987ab.vw.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:52:23 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:12:09 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:12:45 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:47:00 *** Xal [~Xal@S0106881fa12987ab.vw.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:47:16 *** Xal [~Xal@S0106881fa12987ab.vw.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:14:44 *** Xal [~Xal@S0106881fa12987ab.vw.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51:28 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4BB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD46DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:49:43 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 06:55:50 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-235-246.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01:04 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-235-246.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:41:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1923C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:41 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has joined #openttd 08:50:59 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 08:56:55 *** oooze81 [~3oooze81@122-61-140-222.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #openttd 09:22:48 <guru3> merry christmas 09:22:50 *** eM [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29:50 <__ln__> ho ho ho 09:36:36 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:44:22 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-139-75.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 09:59:49 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d08ec38.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 10:31:22 *** oooze81 [~3oooze81@122-61-140-222.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:39:54 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:25 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:49:28 <LordAro> hoe hoe hoe 11:11:24 <Rubidium> H0H 0H0 ;) 11:30:39 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5404f.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 11:37:14 <argoneus> good morning and merry christmas train friends 11:48:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1923C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54:11 *** Chnkr [~chnkr@dev01.staging.dusdavidservers.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:32 <Flygon> Dumb question 11:59:41 <argoneus> mmmm 11:59:53 <Flygon> Is a train-tram collission not happening when the Train rams the Tram's trailers a bug or a feature? 12:00:15 <argoneus> I think it's a bug 12:00:20 <argoneus> as trains smashing cars is a feature 12:00:23 <argoneus> and trams are mods 12:00:55 <Flygon> Alright 12:00:56 <Flygon> To be clear 12:00:59 <Flygon> This Tram's 4 tiles long 12:01:09 <argoneus> it's still a car under the hood iirc 12:01:14 <argoneus> don't quote me on this 12:01:23 <argoneus> so maybe it has a car's hitbox? 12:01:38 <Flygon> Sounds like it 12:02:18 <argoneus> that is 12:02:27 <argoneus> unless the devs built in support for trams natively 12:02:33 <argoneus> but trams were not part of original TTD 12:07:07 * Flygon nod 12:07:13 <Flygon> I haven't had any trailered cars yet 12:07:20 <Flygon> Because HEQS lacks those in 1907 12:08:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host2-232-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 12:08:11 <Wolf01> hi hi o/ 12:10:02 <argoneus> hi yo 12:13:24 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:15:11 <Flygon> Is it lazy to use Freight Trams instead of Trains because you already have too much Rail in an area? 12:15:24 <Flygon> And don't want to create isolated messes of lines? 12:15:39 <Flygon> And find it easier to integrate the Freight network into patchworks of existing Tram networks 12:15:46 <Flygon> Add a few Intercity Lines 12:16:00 <Flygon> Reserve them for possible future highways, and intercity Trams (y'know, ones that go 100-110km/h) 12:19:50 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:06 <peter1138> If you're not using block signals and feeders and main lines and priority junctions and constant-length trains you're doing it wrong (maybe) 12:39:45 <Wolf01> constant length trains are boring 12:41:21 <Flygon> peter1138: There's plenty of that 12:41:28 <Flygon> Congestion on the urban networks is a problem though 12:41:39 <Flygon> To the point where I've already had to separate parts of the network 12:51:14 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5404f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 12:53:50 <Flygon> Hell, along the same corridore, I am already running freight 12:53:58 <Flygon> Just that adding short distance freight is not worth it 12:54:05 <Flygon> And would create weaving problems with the network 12:54:19 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 12:54:23 <Flygon> I'm sure you understand how weaving affects North American Cloverleafs, peter1138 13:01:59 <Flygon> I feel kinda stupidly clever for implementing a RoRo freight pickup BETWEEN a track pair 13:15:09 <Rubidium> constant length trains would be a nice feature, ask openttdcoop 13:16:44 <Flygon> What IS constant length trans? 13:21:00 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:33:11 *** qb [~oftc-webi@ipd50a4049.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:34:06 <qb> Question, I have a town in desert. I deliver enough food/water. (they are both green in town properties, I have 4 stations actively being serviced yet the town still says: 'not growing' I looked at the town growth wiki page.. but cannot see why it is still not growing (town is city btw) 13:39:07 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:39:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f747cd8.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 13:45:30 <qb> aah server setting. did not think of that.. sorry for noise 13:46:49 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has quit [] 13:57:01 *** qb [~oftc-webi@ipd50a4049.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:11:37 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 14:18:35 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:22 *** Chnkr [~chnkr@dev01.staging.dusdavidservers.nl] has joined #openttd 14:24:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1923C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:55:33 <Wolf01> nice, i just read that train fever developers announced the last patch, then they will move to another game :| 15:01:36 *** Tirili [~Unknown@dslc-082-083-140-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:14 <peter1138> Flygon, all trains exactly the same length 15:07:24 <Flygon> Oh 15:07:30 <Flygon> Nah, I got a mixed length network 15:07:32 <peter1138> Rubidium, I was pretty much just mocking them, heh 15:07:33 <Flygon> It'll even out over time 15:07:38 <Flygon> But mixed length is useful for atm 15:07:39 <Flygon> Shower time 15:07:41 <Flygon> The sleep 15:26:56 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:31:00 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:40:01 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 15:42:09 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25:11 <__ln__> https://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/8-insanely-dangerous-toys-from-the-past-will-leave-you-speechless-photos 16:31:07 <frosch123> i have a co-worker named gilbert, who has all that stuff on the walls in his office 16:34:02 <frosch123> anyway, half of that stuff in there has only been considered dangerous in the last 30 years or so 17:29:41 *** Tirili [~Unknown@dslc-082-083-140-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:59 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has joined #openttd 18:39:08 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:42:27 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Snail] 18:52:59 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 18:54:48 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A19E5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:57:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1923C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:29 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 18:57:52 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:03 *** Tirili [~Unknown@dslc-082-083-140-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:32 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:32 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 19:04:45 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:43:28 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:44:34 *** Snail [~jacopocol@host65-121-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 20:04:04 *** Ttech [~ttech@00014919.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:44 *** mikegrb [~mikegrb@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:47 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:10 *** mikegrb [~mikegrb@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:20 *** Ttech [~ttech@dragons.have.mostlyincorrect.info] has joined #openttd 20:48:20 *** Anonittst [~oftc-webi@108-234-181-235.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:52 <Anonittst> I'm getting an error when generating maps 'There were no suitable places for 'Forest' industries' 20:49:09 <Anonittst> My world generation is on the default settings, what's going on? 20:49:09 <Eddi|zuHause> that's when you create arctic maps that have no mountains 20:49:17 <Anonittst> Ah 20:49:41 <Anonittst> Thanks that fixed it 20:52:38 *** Anonittst [~oftc-webi@108-234-181-235.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 20:56:41 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:41 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-042-159.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 21:10:08 <Eddi|zuHause> man, i seriously need to work on my reentry skills... 21:11:03 <Rubidium> just skim the atmosphere a few times to lose speed and to reduce the angle of attack 21:12:15 <Rubidium> as those Kerbins have basically unlimited air and food, right? 21:12:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm on suborbital flights, and atm my approach is to have some kind of braking rocket 21:12:58 <Rubidium> heat shield does the trick if the remainder isn't too heavy 21:12:59 <Eddi|zuHause> some google result suggested radiators 21:13:24 <Rubidium> i.e. basic command pod + science thingy is about as heavy as you should get it in the early stages 21:13:27 <Eddi|zuHause> my problem is that it doesn't slow down enough to open the chutes 21:14:22 <Rubidium> hmm, suborbital... that doesn't have a huge speed to get rid of anyhow, so can't you just deploy the chutes at the highest point? 21:15:05 <Eddi|zuHause> then they get ripped apart 21:15:14 <Eddi|zuHause> upon hitting the atmosphere 21:15:32 <Rubidium> then I don't know... I never had any problems 21:15:49 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the braking rocket somewhat works, but i have to fire it in the correct moment 21:16:30 <Rubidium> at 10 km height, change your direction to 45 degrees, then you get more orbital speed which means you have more time/distance to slow down in the atmosphere 21:21:51 <Rubidium> and possibly you could even get an orbit if you have enough fuel 21:37:32 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:57 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-220-130.tal.is] has joined #openttd 21:39:34 *** roidal_ [~roland@193-154-142-127.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:39:35 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 21:46:26 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-139-75.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:05 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 22:33:56 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f747cd8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:38:51 *** anonthfgh [~oftc-webi@108-234-181-235.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:06 <anonthfgh> I destroyed an airport to put in a bigger one and now all the passangers and mail aren't showing up, before there were hundreds now I'm lucky to be getting 6. 22:40:28 <__ln__> life is not fair 22:42:16 <anonthfgh> Where did the passengers go? DId they suddenly not want to fly anymore? 22:42:27 <Wolf01> Santa didn't bring anything to me :( 22:44:00 <Eddi|zuHause> anonthfgh: it might not have recognized the existing station sign (too far away), try rebuilding with ctrl+click, and select the correct station to attach to 22:44:16 <Eddi|zuHause> (or it took you more than a month to build the new airport, then the old one disappeared) 22:44:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19E5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:21 <anonthfgh> I destroyed the airport first, then build the bigger one in the same location 22:45:32 <Wolf01> in the latter it should produce even more than before because of the bigger catchement area and the good ratings you get for a new station 22:45:52 <Wolf01> a screenshot might help 22:46:04 <Wolf01> a save might help better 22:47:09 <anonthfgh> http://i.imgur.com/8l17F6i.png 22:49:35 <Wolf01> weird, it should work... also it's a small city for an airport... city ratings? maybe the local authority hates you 22:50:01 <anonthfgh> City rating is very good, I've ran both a small and medium sized advertising campaign as well 22:50:20 <anonthfgh> I built a larger airport because I had a dart that was complaining about a small runway 22:50:32 <Wolf01> how many passengers does the town produce? 22:50:56 <anonthfgh> Ah, medium campaign seems to have helped a little, now over 40 passengers and 5 bags of mail 22:51:10 <anonthfgh> Max is 142 passengers 22:51:21 <anonthfgh> Which is what I used to be getting 22:52:57 <anonthfgh> Medium campaign has really helped it seems, over 75 passengers and 15 bags of mail 22:53:26 <anonthfgh> Is it possible to extend a runway? 22:53:53 <Wolf01> no, the only way is only decorative 22:53:59 <Wolf01> so not working 23:06:27 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Quit: off to save the cats] 23:06:48 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:26 *** roidal_ [~roland@193-154-142-127.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 23:09:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:19:09 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:49 <Wolf01> 'night 23:40:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:52:05 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:52:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 23:59:43 <anonthfgh> How do you improve relations with a city? 23:59:56 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has quit []