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03:31:51  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: i also would rather they be offices
03:44:52  <AdmiralKew> I just stamp out competition whenever it arises
03:45:44  <AdmiralKew> "Oh, new company? Sure, let me buy exclusive transportation rights to your starting town/s, fund massive roadworks, put up cities of myself, and herd all your vehicles into a space where they can do nothing"
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09:41:58  <Wolf01> o/
09:42:38  <Supercheese> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1164001#p1164001 What is this post I don't even...
09:43:38  <peter1138> should i get a oneplus two?
09:45:37  <Wolf01> Supercheese, I think he's mad about the lack of 32bpp graphics trams after y2k
09:46:15  <Supercheese> If you say so, I could not decipher it
09:47:04  <Wolf01> and I think I was able to read better the german sentence than the english one, and this bothers me :|
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09:52:25  <Supercheese> http://what-if.xkcd.com/145/ ah I love What If?s
09:52:29  <planetmaker> Wolf01, the German is as well syntactically and grammatically formed as is the English "translation"
09:52:53  <planetmaker> so the problem is not with *your* language skills
09:52:59  <planetmaker> good morning also :)
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09:59:36  <Wolf01> the problem is that I knew the meaning of the words without the need of translating them, at least the 90%, it looks like a kid writing
10:01:39  <Wolf01> and it might explain his point of view :)
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11:11:03  <andythenorth> o/
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11:46:56  <andythenorth> ha ha
11:47:04  <andythenorth> chemical plant has 13 smoke plumes :D
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12:52:51  <Milek7> peter1138: oneplus one
12:53:37  <peter1138> why?
12:55:16  <Milek7> nfc
12:55:29  <peter1138> for what?
12:55:58  <Milek7> modern smartphone without nfc?
12:56:11  <peter1138> what would need nfc for?
12:56:15  <peter1138> +i
12:56:22  <Milek7> eg. paying
12:56:45  <peter1138> i use my debit card for that
12:57:10  <peter1138> or just... cash
12:57:50  <Milek7> and strange usb-c port
12:58:41  <Milek7> and ugly samsung-like button on front
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13:02:01  <Milek7> and, no custom roms with fingerprint reader and laser autofocus
13:02:08  <Milek7> and afaik oxygen is terrible
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14:25:20  <_johannes> this is strange... I have this code here...
14:25:24  <_johannes> for (Vehicle *v = _ol->GetFirstSharedVehicle(); v != NULL; v = v->NextShared()) { new_ol.cargo.insert(v->cargo_type); }
14:26:07  <_johannes> it should just add all cargo of order_list into the std::set "new_ol"
14:26:22  <_johannes> * "new_ol.cargo"
14:26:59  <_johannes> however, it only adds types 0 and 3, however, many of my trains have also mail, and some have wood
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14:40:45  <_johannes> (0=passenger, 3=oil)
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14:55:09  <andythenorth> o/
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15:47:49  <andythenorth> lo Alberth
15:48:00  <Alberth> moin
15:50:04  <Alberth> nifty new industries you made :)
15:52:45  <andythenorth> got inspired :)
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16:56:58  <_johannes> Alberth: can you somehow see the question I wrote before you joined?
16:58:19  <Alberth> euhm, link would be more useful here, as "before you joined is a lot of hours :p
16:58:30  <_johannes> hehe hang on
16:58:53  <Alberth> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1455114324#1455114324  ?
16:58:57  <Wolf01> meh, I had to convince the customer that a full screen slider in the middle height of the home page was not what he needed
16:59:16  <_johannes> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/last?count=50
16:59:35  <_johannes> Alberth: yes :)
16:59:46  <Alberth> yeah, you can click at the time to get the precise point
16:59:56  <_johannes> nice...
17:01:01  <Alberth> you only visit the first vehicle, ie the enginf
17:01:05  <Alberth> *engine
17:01:36  <_johannes> ahhh let me get the German translation for vehicle
17:02:07  <_johannes> hmm I think a mail or passenger car can also be a vehicle?
17:02:16  <andythenorth> Wolf01: did the slider control the size of the slider?
17:02:19  <andythenorth> o_O
17:02:44  <Alberth> _johannes: yes, every locomotive (engine) and wagon is a vehicle
17:03:02  <Alberth> a single train is a chain of vehicles (with next/prev or so)
17:03:11  <Wolf01> no, the slider is dynamic, I can put it in a 1/6 column too
17:03:22  <_johannes> Alberth: ok, but I use this for loop over all verhicles, so why does it only add the first vehicle?
17:03:22  <Alberth> front has orders and shared next/prev links, afaik
17:04:02  <Alberth> NextShared() jumps to the front of the next train in the shared orders
17:04:40  <Alberth> so does the front have cargoes 0 and 3 ? (for all trains in the shared list)
17:04:50  <Wolf01> but the customer wanted full size clickable images... I couldn't even see the slider controls because of the images being too high
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17:08:14  <_johannes> Alberth: there are trains that have other cargoes right behind the locomotive (if you meant that)
17:08:28  <Alberth> you don't visit them
17:08:28  <_johannes> e.g. wood
17:08:44  <_johannes> yes, I can see from the logs that I never visit them
17:08:54  <Alberth> there is a linked list between wagons in a single train
17:08:55  <_johannes> ahhh...
17:08:59  <_johannes> I get you :D
17:09:04  <Alberth> there is another linked list for shared orders
17:09:31  <Alberth> latter only visits the front engine
17:09:48  <_johannes> ok now its getting clear
17:10:16  <Alberth> too bad it's hard to get a drawing of these things from the code :)
17:11:30  <_johannes> yeah... it always looks very easy at first... you have a function that seems to do it ... but then there are three other function that also seem to do it...
17:12:22  <Alberth> improvements on the doxymentation are welcome :)
17:12:52  <_johannes> but it's still very good code imo, especially if you got parts of this from assembler...
17:13:08  <Alberth> biggest problem is that most know how it works, and then documentation is always good
17:13:29  <Alberth> nah, shared orders don't exist in the original game
17:13:46  <_johannes> ah ok...
17:15:27  <Alberth> https://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD:Changes_from_TTD   for a brief list :)
17:15:40  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think a lot of places still use the original disassembled code
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17:32:14  <Ketsuban> I didn't mean that to be a mic-drop. I typoed a keyboard shortcut and accidentally hit Ctrl-Q, which for reasons known only to themselves and their pastor Hexchat has as a bespoke shortcut for quitting the application.
17:32:26  <Ketsuban> Argh. Wrong window.
17:33:52  <Alberth> you left here as well :)
17:37:16  <Ketsuban> Yeah.
17:37:25  <Ketsuban> I didn't say anything here, though, so it wasn't a mic-drop.
17:37:34  <argoneus> drop the bass
17:40:13  <V453000> or ass
17:46:22  <andythenorth> lo V453000
17:46:38  <V453000> hi
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18:06:06  <andythenorth> hi frosch123
18:06:45  <frosch123> hoi
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18:54:45  <andythenorth> hg st
18:54:51  <andythenorth> hmm wrong window :D
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19:24:03  * andythenorth must to finish FIRS soon :o
19:24:11  <andythenorth> April 1st approaches
19:28:00  <frosch123> what is missing? :p
19:28:20  <andythenorth> sprites for 3 industries, multiple bug fixes,
19:28:26  <andythenorth> and some gameplay tweaks
19:28:42  <andythenorth> drawing a nice industry takes 2-3 days, depending how interrupted I am
19:28:58  <frosch123> don't get distracted by "32bpp" then :p
19:29:12  <andythenorth> :P
19:30:24  <andythenorth> chemical plant is done
19:30:25  <andythenorth> much smoke
19:30:37  <andythenorth> now for pyrite smelter
19:35:00  <V453000> 2-3 days? ENVY
19:36:47  <andythenorth> you do a whole base set in that time :P
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19:47:11  <stardude> hey is there a way to make the station tags (like the thing that says the name) smaller?
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20:05:38  <andythenorth> hmm, this industry I do not like http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#plastics_plant
20:05:42  <andythenorth> sprites ugh
20:12:59  <frosch123> reduce the cc
20:13:01  <frosch123> add some vehicles
20:14:35  <frosch123> http://www.rutlandplastics.co.uk/images/aerial%201.jpg <- maybe some containers
20:14:36  <andythenorth> both valid suggestions
20:14:40  <andythenorth> fix the roof :P
20:14:47  <frosch123> plastics are kind of "clean" compared to the other cargos
20:14:49  <andythenorth> frosch123: nice find
20:16:54  <frosch123> http://oceanplasticfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_0294-1024x768.jpg
20:17:01  <Ketsuban> That picture implies a story I'd love to know. Like, why is there a path of sparser-than-normal dirt on that patch of unused land?
20:17:22  <Ketsuban> patch*
20:18:54  <andythenorth> likely a demolished building
20:19:16  <andythenorth> look at the parking spaces in front of the plot
20:19:19  <Ketsuban> Yeah.
20:19:29  <Ketsuban> I wanna know what the demolished building was, though.
20:20:55  <andythenorth> http://www.rutlandplastics.co.uk/advice/factory_update_planning.html
20:21:23  <andythenorth> http://www.rutlandplastics.co.uk/advice/injection_moulders.html
20:21:33  <andythenorth> and that’s how google works :)
20:27:34  <andythenorth> tyre factories are super-non-interesting visually
20:31:42  <frosch123> if you make them not only make new tyres, but also retreated tyres, you can add some other piles
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20:37:29  <andythenorth> true
20:37:39  <andythenorth> the main feature of tyre plants seems to be catching fire
20:37:46  <andythenorth> at least as far as Google is concerned
20:37:50  <V453000> frosch the CC nazi
20:38:01  <V453000> there is always too much CC
20:38:05  <V453000> :P
20:38:33  <frosch123> if noone would use cc, we could scrap support for them :p
20:38:46  <V453000> ooh, you got meconvinced now :P
20:39:36  * andythenorth likes CC :(
20:39:39  <andythenorth> sad andythenorth
20:39:48  <V453000> CC is nice for 8bpp yes
20:39:49  <V453000> :P
20:40:52  <V453000> though, if white and orange weren't so shit-ugly, 8bpp would also be nicer
20:41:05  <frosch123> cc is fine, i just got teird of big areas :)
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20:43:10  <andythenorth> that plastics plant is an offense, in that respect
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