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Although I've had several people in the last couple of weeks tell me I should be running at state level 12:52:50 <frosch123> @seen pokka 12:52:50 <DorpsGek> frosch123: pokka was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 49 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <Pokka> o? 12:53:50 <longtomjr_> Wolf01, for me space matters quite a bit, especially when using mostly trains. 12:53:57 *** Gja has quit IRC 12:54:34 <longtomjr_> I like to have small trains going around doing small things, and large ones doing the major transporting 12:55:16 <longtomjr_> much like trains in OpenTTD 12:55:45 <longtomjr_> anyways, going afk 13:06:42 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:07:05 <Samu> hi 13:10:54 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 13:25:05 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 13:29:54 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 13:58:23 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:02:47 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 14:18:47 *** m3henry has quit IRC 14:27:47 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 14:33:23 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 14:40:06 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 14:48:21 *** Gustavo6146_ has joined #openttd 14:55:47 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 15:00:00 *** Gustavo6146_ has quit IRC 15:03:11 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:07:06 *** Laedek has quit IRC 15:08:41 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 15:14:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:15:16 <andythenorth> o/ 15:15:52 <frosch123> cat 15:18:55 *** SgtStroopwafel has joined #openttd 15:20:54 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:27:58 <andythenorth> yup 15:28:38 <andythenorth> shall I add tyres? 15:28:39 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#steeltown 15:28:52 <andythenorth> I have the cargo sprites for stations http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#tyre_plant 15:41:33 <Eddi|zuHause> tyres of steel? 15:48:45 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:16:48 *** SgtStroopwafel has quit IRC 16:19:39 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 16:37:37 <Samu> Wormnest: i'm testing nonocab in the harsh environment of multiplayer trolls 16:38:05 <Samu> there are trains crashing on his vehicles on purpose, I wonder what nonocab do about it 16:39:52 <Wormnest> Samu: Are NoNoCabs trains crashing? That should not happen 16:42:04 <Samu> no, there's trolls trains crashing on nonocabs road vehicles 16:42:28 <Samu> retards who join and all they do is ruin other players 16:42:37 <Samu> including AIs 16:43:35 *** Borg has joined #openttd 16:43:44 <Wormnest> Well that´s why you need moderators on multiplayer 16:45:29 <Samu> what does nonocab do? just rebuild new vehicles? 16:45:59 <Samu> does he also detect broken routes? the troll also destroyed some roads 16:47:50 <Wormnest> As far as I remember it doesn´t do anything. It certainly won´t detect broken roads. 16:48:09 <Samu> he blocked some ships too, just noticed 16:48:10 <Wormnest> But if profit gets bad it will cancel the route and send vehicles to depot 16:48:13 <Samu> poor nonocab 16:49:01 <Wormnest> afk 16:49:55 <Samu> "no vehicle that we can clone found"... lel 16:50:59 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:55:21 <Borg> yeah... its sad that trolls are everywhere these days 16:55:27 <Borg> I basicaly run passworded servers... 16:56:12 <Borg> or even not advertised.. 16:56:14 <Samu> i notice he's adding more road vehicles to replace those that crashed 16:56:26 <Samu> and they keep up crashing again 16:56:40 <Samu> but nonocab is so rich, it still profits 16:57:36 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 16:57:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 17:01:49 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 17:02:01 <Samu> Wormnest: nonocab aircraft model choice is weird, did you make it random or something? 17:03:15 <Samu> and ship model choice also appears to be random 17:03:51 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 17:05:19 <Alberth> o/ 17:05:39 <Samu> hi 17:06:36 <Samu> i picked Machiavellian and he's picking easy vehicles 17:06:44 <Samu> hmm 17:12:22 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:22:55 *** Gustavo6146_ has joined #openttd 17:29:47 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 17:29:49 *** Gustavo6146_ has quit IRC 17:31:58 <frosch123> how weird, huge rocks now also give coal 17:35:44 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has joined #openttd 17:35:47 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 17:37:34 <andythenorth> F? 17:37:44 <frosch123> F! 17:41:34 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:50:47 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:54:16 <Samu> i see nonocab with some ships with (no loading), is he trying to sell these? 17:54:22 <Samu> the ships are stuck though 18:04:18 *** SgtStroopwafel_ has quit IRC 18:14:11 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:14:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:15:52 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 18:16:52 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 18:17:19 <Wormnest> Samu: It´s not a random choice but depends on what it thinks is best and affordable with the available money 18:18:14 <Wormnest> Yeah It does change ship orders when they should be sold 18:18:31 <Wormnest> Might be useful to have a savegame so I can investigate 18:20:55 <Samu> i don't know what can be done 18:21:11 <Samu> it was sabotage, but oki, i'm sending replay 18:23:03 <Samu> https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=200662 18:25:55 <Wormnest> Ah ok, I thought you meant the ships got stuck without intervention in that case it would be a bug. 18:31:53 <Samu> he liked to use aircraft to transport food 18:34:53 <Wormnest> As long as there´s a profit it´s all good :p 18:35:45 <Samu> he still builds mps regal busses 18:35:48 <Samu> :( why 18:38:13 <Alberth> is there a better alternative? 18:38:29 <Alberth> as in, more economically profitable? 18:39:00 <Samu> there are foster busses 18:40:34 <Wormnest> I would expect it to pick the faster ones too but I´ll have a look if I can figure it out 18:43:24 <Wormnest> It did use a Foster bus for vehicle 103 18:44:03 <Samu> seems that he just replaced all mps with foster 18:44:19 <Samu> what took him so long :( 18:44:20 <Wormnest> But maybe it thought for another connection the Hereford would be more profitable 18:44:56 <Samu> there are 3 busses stuck 18:45:00 <Samu> have you seen them? 18:45:14 <Samu> some troll demolished the roads :8 18:45:52 <Wormnest> I saw but adding code to find things broken by trolls would be a lot of work for little benefit 18:46:45 <Samu> there are some cargo ships at the bottom right corner 18:46:51 <Samu> they're the slow version 18:46:56 <Samu> it could have chosen the faster model 18:47:15 <Samu> at Great Prefingford 18:47:44 <Wormnest> Faster isn´t always more profitable. 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