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For shame :P 06:50:20 *** mijndert has joined #openttd 06:51:51 *** KouDy has quit IRC 07:05:19 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 07:11:10 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 07:38:48 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 07:44:44 *** Fuco has joined #openttd 07:46:50 *** gelignite has quit IRC 07:49:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:47:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:49:43 <peter1138> andytheandythenorththenorth 08:51:03 <andythenorth> too northern 08:51:50 <peter1138> Thanks to michi_cc I can now run OpenTTD on Windows reliably ;p 08:53:34 <peter1138> Just need to sort out the non-Windows builds. 09:06:17 *** Fuco has quit IRC 10:00:21 *** supermop has joined #openttd 10:08:22 *** supermop has quit IRC 10:26:06 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 11:12:47 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:18:44 *** KouDy has quit IRC 11:35:30 *** mijndert has quit IRC 11:36:59 *** supermop_work_ has joined #openttd 11:41:02 *** supermop_work has quit IRC 12:00:54 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 12:11:42 *** Wacko1976_ has joined #openttd 12:17:07 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 12:19:43 *** Wacko1976_ has quit IRC 12:25:43 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 12:52:42 *** Guest4596 is now known as planetmaker 12:54:52 *** supermop has joined #openttd 13:01:12 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 13:04:28 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 13:09:17 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 13:39:55 *** Arveen has quit IRC 13:43:11 <planetmaker> we have some guy who asks whether we have a bug bounty programme 13:43:34 <planetmaker> and now that I told him that we run everything 100% by volunteers he still asks what we offer for information 13:44:30 <andythenorth> glamour 13:44:36 <planetmaker> bug bounty as in for "vulnerability in your site" 13:44:40 <andythenorth> oh right 13:44:49 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 13:44:53 <planetmaker> yeah, tempted to reply just that. Fame by thanking you on the website or so 13:44:54 <andythenorth> we offer him TrueBrain 13:44:59 <planetmaker> hihi :) 13:45:06 <andythenorth> is it a ransom thing? 13:45:06 <LordAro> o/ 13:45:22 <LordAro> given the age of django it's running with, it wouldn't surprise me at all 13:45:24 <planetmaker> I've literally not more information that I just told you 13:45:36 <planetmaker> but yeah... django... might be the entry point 13:47:21 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:47:23 <LordAro> https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=django HMMMM 13:47:29 <planetmaker> ^^ 13:47:49 <LordAro> basically any CVE on that page? :p 13:47:55 <LordAro> can't remember what version it's running 13:49:55 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: make sure you have an offsite backup? 13:50:43 <planetmaker> probably a good idea 13:51:02 <planetmaker> yet... probably only TB can do that reasonably. Maybe rubi 13:52:17 <planetmaker> and TBs approach would be to simply trash the VM and setup something new with words like "was rubbish anyway" :P 13:55:07 <LordAro> wouldn't be wrong :p 13:55:38 <planetmaker> no. But it's his approach with everything done 3 or more months earlier ;) 14:10:42 *** supermop has quit IRC 14:21:26 <andythenorth> static website :P 14:21:54 <andythenorth> the risk is someone with mirror access inserting malware 14:22:02 <andythenorth> the website is disposable no? 14:22:08 <andythenorth> hmm, maybe we have user creds in it 14:22:16 * andythenorth back to actual work 14:22:21 <planetmaker> or wiki 14:22:25 <planetmaker> it's old an ugly, too 14:22:38 <planetmaker> or has it recently been updated? 14:22:44 <planetmaker> or maybe the admin panel? 14:23:16 <planetmaker> old and ugly as in the version it uses 14:27:16 <planetmaker> or a bug in translator@, in eints? 14:27:29 <planetmaker> devzone... has seen better maintained times 14:27:33 <LordAro> wiki has not been updated 14:27:36 <LordAro> i offered! 14:27:58 <LordAro> (i did it at work recently) 14:28:58 <planetmaker> hm... but no-one let you? 14:29:06 <LordAro> no :( 14:30:51 <planetmaker> :( 14:49:14 <supermop_work_> yo 14:51:23 <peter1138> G 14:53:11 *** KouDy has quit IRC 14:54:19 <LordAro> H 15:10:37 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:10:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 15:17:23 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 15:17:56 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:31:11 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:39:26 *** supermop has joined #openttd 15:48:29 *** supermop has quit IRC 15:48:55 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 15:53:30 *** KouDy has quit IRC 15:54:45 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:56:11 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 15:56:58 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:57:17 *** synchris has joined #openttd 15:58:51 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:01:03 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 16:04:29 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 16:05:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:16:47 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:24:48 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 16:34:05 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:49:30 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 16:57:34 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 16:57:57 <Wolf01> o/ 17:02:54 <supermop_work_> hi Wolf01 17:03:36 *** happpy has joined #openttd 17:03:57 *** happpy has left #openttd 17:04:19 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:04:39 <Wolf01> Quak 17:05:54 *** RedJimi has joined #openttd 17:06:57 <frosch123> moo 17:07:32 <LANJesus> QUEUEONK 17:07:34 <Wolf01> So you are monsters and made me play spider with 4 colors :( 17:10:22 <frosch123> who plays spider with less than 4? 17:10:33 <Wolf01> Me, before 17:15:04 <andythenorth> me 17:17:09 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 17:19:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:24:32 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:24:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:25:51 *** KouDy has quit IRC 17:39:25 *** supermop has joined #openttd 17:47:27 *** supermop has quit IRC 17:48:33 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 17:49:31 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 18:02:47 *** Fuco has joined #openttd 18:03:05 *** Tony has joined #openttd 18:03:14 <Tony> Hello everybody 18:04:02 <Tony> HHHOOOOBBBAAAA 18:04:09 *** Tony has quit IRC 18:06:57 <peter1138> Well... 18:10:49 <Eddi|zuHause> ok? 18:11:03 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 18:11:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:11:56 <andythenorth> also hi 18:14:43 *** ioh has joined #openttd 18:15:12 *** ioh has quit IRC 18:18:21 *** KouDy has quit IRC 18:21:57 <LordAro> peter1138: hoba 18:24:21 <peter1138> Hmm, villagers don't seem to work properly in 1.13 snapshots :( 18:24:34 <LordAro> have they ever worked properly? 18:26:00 <Eddi|zuHause> these lazy villagers, never working 18:29:18 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 18:35:07 <TrueBrain> [15:55] <planetmaker> no. But it's his approach with everything done 3 or more months earlier ;) <- don't be like that .... 14 days is long enough tbfh :P 18:39:08 <LordAro> apt upgrade? nah, delete and rebuild 18:39:30 <andythenorth> switch platform 18:39:32 <andythenorth> new hardware 18:39:35 <andythenorth> change protocol 18:39:41 <TrueBrain> I honestly wonder what I did to make planetmaker think that, but okay ... 18:40:25 <andythenorth> all our reps are undeserved :P 18:40:49 <TrueBrain> he is mostly bashing how the servers are maintained .. gets a bit old tbh 18:41:11 <peter1138> Well, they did used to harvest wheat and breed. Not so right now. 18:41:27 <peter1138> I don't think it was bashing :-) 18:42:29 <TrueBrain> bah, email is via gmail .. no IP to grep for 18:42:41 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 18:43:28 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:47:44 <TrueBrain> Internet is weird 18:47:57 <TrueBrain> can find his FB, Twitter, vuln record .. but not his IP :P 18:48:17 <LordAro> lol 18:50:35 <TrueBrain> such a sad life 18:50:43 <TrueBrain> I miss the days 18:50:49 <TrueBrain> where things just worked 18:53:42 <andythenorth> me too 18:53:44 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:53:47 <andythenorth> like my keyboard used to work 18:53:58 <peter1138> Mine works now, since I sprayed a bit of WD-40 on it... 18:54:27 <TrueBrain> LordAro: but if you want to help, think of a way to maintain something like a wiki with very low effort 18:54:35 <TrueBrain> upgrading mediawiki is drama 18:54:46 <TrueBrain> (because of several required changes to work in the current setup) 18:56:02 <LordAro> i wrote an ansible script for work 18:56:07 <LordAro> seems to work quite well 18:56:16 <LordAro> and i'm not sure i'd say that upgrading mediawiki was "drama" 18:56:42 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:56:54 <LordAro> needs a test instance with everything copied over, but that's obvious :p 18:57:19 <andythenorth> is there no import-export? :P 18:57:54 <LordAro> sure, but you test changes in isolation 18:58:00 <LordAro> especially if it's big changes 18:58:31 <TrueBrain> LordAro: every upgrade, LDAP is implemented differently 18:58:44 <TrueBrain> because LDAP is via a plugin, last we upgraded .. and plugins .. are .. special 18:59:07 <TrueBrain> so upgrading is not as easy as "just install the latest version" 18:59:22 <TrueBrain> last time we ended up changing php files .. 18:59:30 <LordAro> well it's been pretty stable for the last 8? major versions afaik 19:00:04 <TrueBrain> so good for you that you made an ansible script .. not helping OpenTTD by standing on the side line: THIS IS EASY 19:00:06 <TrueBrain> :) 19:00:08 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:00:14 <peter1138> LET'S DO IT 19:00:26 <TrueBrain> it should start with: why was it drama for you? what were the issues? etc :) 19:00:41 <TrueBrain> saying: I did it somewhere else too, is rarely any promise or guarantee :D 19:01:24 <TrueBrain> I always notice I get more and more annoyed by a product the longer I have to fiddle with it to get it to work, reading back my comments I made in the code :D 19:02:09 <LordAro> iirc, the main issues i had were with plugins that had been customised in the past :p 19:02:25 <TrueBrain> so let lose of what you did for work 19:02:30 <TrueBrain> and either help with OpenTTD 19:02:34 <TrueBrain> or .. well .. ssssh :P 19:02:40 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:02:58 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 19:03:05 *** Cthulhux has joined #openttd 19:03:26 <TrueBrain> as last I checked, I am not new at this shit, and I am telling you mediawiki was a pita :D 19:03:32 <TrueBrain> well, FlySpray was worse 19:03:35 <TrueBrain> but .... \o/ :D 19:04:08 <glx> move the wiki to github ? ;) 19:04:16 <TrueBrain> if it would have a decent wiki :P 19:04:57 <TrueBrain> owh, right, imagick .. that was the other horror 19:07:10 <LordAro> so there are actually only 3 plugins on the wiki - checkuser, graphviz & ldap. checkuser looks to be an "official" plugin and is used by mediawiki so i see no issues there, graphviz - i had troubles with this, but mostly because the plugin had been hacked to provide embedded svgs in a way that was no longer compatible with the plugin, nor the wiki itself. ldap - for me, this was just a case of plugging 19:07:16 <LordAro> in login details, and not much else 19:07:22 <LordAro> i should add that my own wiki upgrade was from 1.23 to 1.28 19:07:57 <TrueBrain> again, leave away what your work did .. most likely not really relevant :) 19:08:02 <LordAro> exactly :p 19:08:03 <TrueBrain> and help to think how we are going to upgrade ours 19:08:09 <LordAro> it's difficult to say much more without seeing inside 19:08:38 <TrueBrain> so ask the questions :) 19:08:52 <TrueBrain> so I read your first question as: are there any other plugins/modifications 19:09:06 <TrueBrain> ReCaptcha is running 19:09:12 <TrueBrain> which is .. euh .. painful 19:09:20 <TrueBrain> but if it didnt change, we have it working :P 19:09:28 <LordAro> recaptcha plugin looks like it's included with mediawiki since 1.21 19:09:40 <TrueBrain> lets hope the configuration hasnt changed 19:09:40 <LordAro> ("ConfirmEdit") 19:10:04 <TrueBrain> ah, yes, the proxy ... for some idiotic reason this needs some additional effort 19:10:17 <TrueBrain> memcache 19:10:37 <TrueBrain> uses MySQL .. which is up for debate tbfh 19:11:02 <LordAro> configuration has changed a lot in newer versions - plugins are registered with wfLoadExtension(), rather than require_once blah 19:11:19 <TrueBrain> over the years it turned out that our LDAP is for some reason "special" .. it was default back then, but now software rarely "just likes it" 19:11:21 <Wolf01> <peter1138> Hmm, villagers don't seem to work properly in 1.13 snapshots :( <- I'm trying to expand a village, followed the rules etc, they still clump in a 5x4 house... 7 of them 19:11:24 <LordAro> the old way is still supported (i think the ldap plugin still uses it), but newer way is "better" 19:11:43 <TrueBrain> but okay ... first things first: should we still use mediawiki 19:11:56 <TrueBrain> if history is any say, upgrading is always more painful than time available :) 19:12:06 <TrueBrain> is there a lower-effort way of hosting a wiki 19:12:10 <Wolf01> They really recognize the houses, but seem to forget of them on the 2nd night 19:12:50 <TrueBrain> is a static website on a git repo with PR access to anyone, better? (to name one) 19:13:33 <TrueBrain> changes on the wiki are rare and far apart these days 19:13:37 <LordAro> it needs to be freely editable, tbh 19:13:43 <TrueBrain> does it? 19:13:54 <TrueBrain> depends on your definition of freely, I guess 19:14:05 <LordAro> well, without waiting for any approval 19:14:08 <TrueBrain> editing without logging in, for example, turned out to be a horrible idea :P 19:14:36 <LordAro> the wiki is slow to change, but i think that's more of a reflection of OTTD's current state, rather than because it should remain that way 19:14:57 <TrueBrain> my question remains :) We are now used to mediawiki, but is that the right tool for the job 19:15:01 <TrueBrain> what do other projects do? 19:15:05 <TrueBrain> I need someone to look into that 19:15:08 <TrueBrain> as unbiased as possible :D 19:17:41 <LANJesus> a lot of projects adopt all of the github features if they're new projects 19:17:55 <LANJesus> older projects tend to use a mix 19:18:26 *** Gja has joined #openttd 19:22:09 <andythenorth> depends if it's user docs or project-authored docs 19:23:35 <TrueBrain> and just to be clear: I am just asking the question 19:23:43 <TrueBrain> doing something because you have been doing it, is a piss poor reason :D 19:24:36 <Wolf01> TrueBrain: wikis made devs lazy, no more official guides because "players will write them better"... if they even do, usually the articles are filled with mistakes 19:25:00 <Wolf01> And useless things 19:25:28 <TrueBrain> I observe the same, indeed 19:25:43 <TrueBrain> (in other projects we stopped making wikis, as it never ended well :D) 19:30:47 <TrueBrain> LordAro: and if we do use mediawiki, we need to find a way to make upgrading easy .. so I imagine a docker that runs the wiki (connecting to LDAP/MySQL) 19:30:56 <TrueBrain> that also makes testing significant easier 19:31:13 <LordAro> aye, that would work 19:31:25 <TrueBrain> other ideas are welcome too, but test VMs have shown to be painful at best 19:31:45 <LordAro> https://hub.docker.com/r/wikimedia/mediawiki/ :) 19:32:06 <TrueBrain> for example 19:32:11 <LordAro> https://hub.docker.com/_/mediawiki/ seems better 19:32:21 <TrueBrain> with _ is always better 19:32:35 <TrueBrain> problem is, I cannot hand you a copy of MySQL or LDAP 19:32:48 <TrueBrain> so we need to find a way to mock that sufficiently 19:34:21 <LordAro> well there's nothing in the mediawiki db that can't be shared, surely? 19:34:50 <TrueBrain> possibly; would have to check 19:34:56 <TrueBrain> LDAP for sure I cannot ... for some silly reason :P 19:35:17 <LordAro> how about the connection? is lookup password protected? 19:35:58 <TrueBrain> connection is not public 19:36:02 <TrueBrain> (for some sane reason :D) 19:37:10 <TrueBrain> but if needed we can bounce that via SSH 19:37:22 <TrueBrain> but I am more tempted to make a mock-docker that is organized the same 19:37:59 *** planetmaker_ has joined #openttd 19:38:09 <LordAro> as in, only on the internal ottd "network" ? 19:38:20 <TrueBrain> yes 19:38:28 <LordAro> i guess it's too much to ask for you to set something up and give me access to only that 19:38:31 <LordAro> ? 19:38:40 <planetmaker_> hihi 19:38:41 <TrueBrain> "that"? 19:39:00 <LordAro> only the theoretical mediawiki docker instance 19:39:03 <LordAro> planetmaker_: o/ 19:39:14 <TrueBrain> hmm .. 19:39:50 <TrueBrain> MySQL has to be outside the network 19:40:02 <TrueBrain> best I can do is an LDAP connection 19:40:09 <TrueBrain> (over SSH, but that is not relevant) 19:40:48 <TrueBrain> (on short term) 19:40:55 <LordAro> mhmm 19:41:04 <TrueBrain> I dont want testing stuff to connect to a production MySQL 19:41:05 <TrueBrain> (weird) 19:41:19 <LordAro> wow, paranoid 19:41:20 <LordAro> :p 19:41:36 <TrueBrain> worse: experience 19:41:39 <LordAro> this docker-compose thing looks quite useful 19:42:17 <TrueBrain> it is 19:43:19 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:44:29 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 19:44:44 <LordAro> except of course.. graphviz 19:44:46 <LordAro> hrm 19:44:47 <peter1138> TrueBrain, how big are your Windows .exes now you don't need ICU? :) 19:44:49 <LordAro> is it even used anywhere? 19:45:33 <TrueBrain> no clue 19:45:35 <TrueBrain> peter1138: didnt test yet 19:46:22 <nielsm> my win64 debug builds are 22 MB 19:47:23 <LordAro> TrueBrain: wiki search (possibly unreliable) indicates Sandbox & Talk:Cargo only 19:47:26 <TrueBrain> so did anyone put nielsm in the Editors group on GitHub already? *looks at michi_cc* 19:47:27 <LordAro> neither of which are working :D 19:47:34 <nielsm> win32 debug before is 27 MB 19:47:38 <peter1138> My release build is 5.5 MB 19:47:40 <TrueBrain> lot of pages are not really working tbh LordAro 19:47:45 <LordAro> shhh 19:48:26 <nielsm> after is 17 MB 19:48:51 <TrueBrain> there we go 19:48:58 <TrueBrain> now you can approve (but not merge I think?) shit too nielsm :) 19:49:03 <TrueBrain> keep up the good comments :) 19:49:28 <LordAro> (don't approve shit) 19:49:30 <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> LDAP for sure I cannot ... for some silly reason :P <-- you could try getting a GDPR permission from everyone that ever made an account, that you want to share their data :p 19:49:35 <nielsm> peter1138: I'm piggybacking a fix for the CAT file complaining on PR #6819 if that's good enough :) 19:49:39 <peter1138> Hmm, debug build is 23MB, still large. But that doesn't matter :) 19:49:43 <TrueBrain> LordAro: it seems he has a good feeling for what shit is :D 19:49:44 <nielsm> TrueBrain WHOAH 19:49:53 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: yeah ..... no 19:50:30 <andythenorth> someone approve my PR :P 19:50:33 <andythenorth> the readme one 19:51:24 <planetmaker_> andythenorth, if you walk me through how to do, I'm happy to give it a go 19:51:51 <TrueBrain> step 1: get a github account 19:51:53 <TrueBrain> :D 19:51:55 <nielsm> yep release builds are "tiny" now, used to be like 12 MB or more, down to 5.2 MB for win64 19:52:06 <TrueBrain> that is good news :D 19:52:20 <TrueBrain> makes my work a lot lot LOT easier 19:52:34 <planetmaker_> :) 19:52:43 <TrueBrain> LordAro: I might look into spinning up a VM to develop dockers on or something .. 19:53:25 <nielsm> you know, I remember when I saw the first pre-alpha of what became openttd in #tycoon some time in 2003 or whenever it was, the exe file was a few hundred kb or less, significantly less than the TTDW exe file, and that was a bragging point for <forget original hacker's name> 19:55:01 <michi_cc> TrueBrain: I have no idea how to add somebody to a group or if I even have the rights for that. 19:55:19 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: I assumed as much :) So I just did that :) 19:55:37 <TrueBrain> he just has to accept the invite :D 19:56:40 <m1cr0man> Hey folks. Looking for some pro tips if anyone has got them ;) I keep cloning vehicles then going in and having to manually set them to share orders with the vehicle I cloned. Is there a better way to clone a vehicle and share orders? 19:57:36 <peter1138> nielsm, it was a bit smaller in the C days even ;) 19:57:51 <peter1138> m1cr0man, ctrl-click when cloning will shrae the orders. 19:58:01 <michi_cc> nielsm: We do have a few more features today. Gameplay itself is probably the smallest part of the increase, but all the other stuff around from squirrel to better compression, networking et cetera. 19:58:01 <m1cr0man> awh, awesome! :D thanks 19:58:50 <michi_cc> OTTD even has proper IME input for strangely lettered languages on Win and OSX nowadays. 19:59:52 <TrueBrain> planetmaker_: you can also merge it! 20:00:26 <planetmaker_> I see that. Was making sure that the commit message confirmed to standards. Just pressed the button :) 20:00:47 <andythenorth> commits are checked by bot ;) 20:00:47 <peter1138> The CI system already checks that :-) 20:00:55 <LordAro> jinx 20:02:43 <planetmaker_> :) 20:06:48 <nielsm> gn, tomorrow's going to be a draining day at work 20:07:40 <nielsm> (teambuilding stuff but I have to get in to the office early and set some temps up to cover for the dept) 20:07:55 <TrueBrain> good luck :) 20:08:14 <planetmaker_> ciao unknown new openttd dev :) 20:08:26 <planetmaker_> good to see a new active face here :D 20:08:55 <TrueBrain> for dev I need to add him to yet another group :P Can be arranged .. but not my call :P 20:09:32 <planetmaker_> currently not mine really either. But the git log shows a lot of activity the last months 20:10:04 <TrueBrain> even peter1138 joined in! :P 20:10:30 <nielsm> I've mostly touched the music code, it's a pretty isolated corner ;) did it because the music was WRONG compared to dos ttd :D 20:10:45 <planetmaker_> lol :D 20:10:57 <TrueBrain> we all started here because something was WRONG WRONG WRONG :D 20:11:05 <planetmaker_> ^^ 20:11:10 <TrueBrain> mine was: how do you mean, 256x256 is the ONLY POSSIBLE size?! 20:11:13 <nielsm> 1500 lines of new code to get a few little nostalgia details right 20:11:22 <planetmaker_> actually... I started here because I was lazy. Not because things were wrong :) 20:11:43 <nielsm> anyway bedtime 20:11:43 * LordAro 's was "someone removed the old AI? wtf, they should put it back" 20:11:59 <LordAro> i didn't win that one 20:12:10 <planetmaker_> :| Partially you did 20:12:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't really start, i'm too lazy for even that :p 20:12:33 <TrueBrain> LordAro: oh, you were THAT GUY?! :P 20:12:40 <planetmaker_> I needed fast bridge building (keyboard shortcut) for all kind of bridges. And that's where it started :) 20:12:45 <LordAro> TrueBrain: i was one of them, yes :p 20:13:00 <TrueBrain> :D 20:13:07 <TrueBrain> so happy that cheating ass is gone (oldAI) 20:13:15 <TrueBrain> that was such a piece of crap in the code base 20:13:22 <Eddi|zuHause> but the reason i came into this channel was that the old PBS was broken 20:15:08 <Eddi|zuHause> in particular, when you had 2 trains waiting to enter the same bit of station from either side, they got stuck, and when you sent one of them through with "ignore signal", the other one would also start, crashing in the middle 20:18:56 <TrueBrain> I am off too; night! 20:19:47 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:20:19 <andythenorth> yay PR approved :) 20:20:20 <andythenorth> thanks 20:26:46 <planetmaker_> my pleasure :) 20:32:18 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, so glad we removed that feature 20:37:57 *** gelignite2nd has joined #openttd 20:39:12 *** muffindrake3 has quit IRC 20:41:22 *** HeyCitizen has joined #openttd 20:41:32 *** HeyCitizen_ has quit IRC 20:44:12 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:46:25 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 20:59:27 *** synchris has quit IRC 21:00:40 <peter1138> Hmm, our VS project files are a bit annoying 21:01:09 <peter1138> I can never easily find source files with the virtual hierarchy that's there. 21:01:30 <Wolf01> Use the search :P 21:03:10 <peter1138> Ah, there's a folder view you can use. 21:03:25 <Wolf01> I'm wasted, I'll go to bed and play spider 21:04:41 <Wolf01> 'night 21:04:43 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:05:28 * peter1138 finally gets around to binding ^W to the usual function. 21:07:19 <LordAro> ..deleting a word? 21:08:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever used that 21:12:37 *** planetmaker_ has quit IRC 21:14:28 *** gelignite2nd has quit IRC 21:25:53 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 21:27:05 <peter1138> Heh, no, close window. 21:27:10 <peter1138> Cos it's not a shell 21:28:53 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 21:39:48 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 21:41:27 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 21:42:09 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:44:08 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:50:48 *** Fuco has quit IRC 22:04:59 *** Fuco has joined #openttd 22:08:06 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:37:28 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:38:47 *** Fuco has quit IRC 22:46:13 *** KouDy has quit IRC 22:47:58 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:05:24 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:06:21 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 23:15:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:29:02 *** Cthulhux has quit IRC 23:35:27 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:36:19 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:37:03 *** Arveen has quit IRC 23:37:28 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 23:40:30 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 23:45:37 *** Arveen has quit IRC 23:47:46 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 23:57:10 *** Cubey has quit IRC 23:59:09 *** KouDy has quit IRC