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10:53:06 <nielsm> (smooth or laggy) 10:57:19 <as> the game is smooth even with many vehicles, i have only problem whn scroll the map 11:04:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:10:55 <LordAro> nielsm: SDL is double buffered, last time i checked 11:11:09 <LordAro> not that that's proper vsync 11:14:54 <nielsm> yeah, looking at the code now 11:15:19 <nielsm> so basically it can depend on a ton of factors, probably also if you're using a compositing window manager 11:15:32 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:42:08 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 11:47:42 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:54:28 <peter1138> Yeah, it's not vsynced on Windows either. 12:09:53 <LordAro> something something sdl2? 12:13:20 <LordAro> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/compare/master...LordAro:scan-build-findings how many of these commits are worth making a pull request for? 12:22:50 <peter1138> I wanted to have an OpenGL surface driver, which would definitely allow vsync, but... meh, effort. 12:23:15 <peter1138> Also, 30ms ticks don't match up with 60Hz very well. 12:23:31 <LordAro> not so much 12:33:04 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:38:07 *** waltman29 has joined #openttd 12:38:08 <waltman29> /ⵑ⧵ ΑTТN: This cһaᥒᥒᥱⅼ haѕ mo⋁ᥱd tഠ іrc．freeᥒodе․net ﹟⁄ϳⲟiᥒ /!＼ 12:38:08 *** waltman29 has quit IRC 12:40:59 *** tlaxkit has joined #openttd 13:00:30 *** leif has joined #openttd 13:04:55 *** Progman has joined #openttd 13:17:53 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] George-VB opened issue #6947: A new variable Vehicle is loading required https://git.io/fxHAR 13:29:11 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:29:49 <andythenorth> oof 13:30:23 <LordAro> foo 13:35:06 <andythenorth> when will Horse be done? 13:39:59 *** LotR has joined #openttd 13:42:56 <Wolf01> What about firs? 13:43:39 <andythenorth> FIRS is dead 13:45:26 <andythenorth> I have started TANKS 13:45:32 <andythenorth> but it's war-based, so I had to stop :P 13:46:09 <Wolf01> I started to build an army of nanobots with lego 13:46:32 <andythenorth> but you had to stop? 13:47:00 <Wolf01> Yes, not enough pieces, waiting for shipment 13:47:29 <Wolf01> But I think I'll stop with 24 13:48:39 *** LotR has quit IRC 13:56:44 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 13:57:45 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 14:24:35 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro opened pull request #6948: Doxygen improvements and various scan-build findings https://git.io/fxHhE 14:25:30 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #6946: Doc: More notes for developers adding new PerformanceElements https://git.io/fxHhg 14:28:27 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 14:31:26 <andythenorth> housekeeping :) 14:34:05 <LordAro> housekeeping is great 14:34:12 <LordAro> speaking of which, i should do some vacuuming 14:41:19 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:43:15 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1613 14:43:17 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 14:45:04 *** as has quit IRC 14:48:42 <planetmaker> ./ 14:49:14 *** Guest1613 has quit IRC 14:52:24 <andythenorth> hi planetmaker 14:54:56 <LordAro> planetmaker: do you have a really small head, or a really long arm? 14:55:19 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 14:55:50 *** Jesin15 has joined #openttd 14:56:26 <planetmaker> :) 14:56:31 <planetmaker> probably long arms 14:56:40 *** Jesin15 has quit IRC 14:57:01 <planetmaker> that's what kraken usually have, I presume ;) 14:59:32 <Wolf01> Then it's .//// 15:00:43 <planetmaker> hehe. No point in making all strong points public at once 15:01:38 <Wolf01> Wow, yesterday night I slept over 3 episodes... I had to watch them "again" 15:04:04 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 15:04:32 <planetmaker> of what? 15:05:10 * andythenorth wonders about industries with more than 3 input cargos 15:05:24 <planetmaker> anre they a thing meanwhile? 15:05:48 <andythenorth> so very nearly 15:05:59 <andythenorth> nielsm has a nice PR for it 15:06:05 <andythenorth> and I forked nml...somewhere 15:06:08 <nielsm> oh don't merge that docs improvement PR yet, I actually have more changes for it 15:06:27 <andythenorth> oh here's nml https://github.com/andythenorth/nml-andythenorth/tree/6802-64-cargotypes 15:06:50 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh dismissed a review for pull request #6946: Doc: More notes for developers adding new PerformanceElements https://git.io/fxHhg 15:06:51 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #6946: Doc: More notes for developers adding new PerformanceElements https://git.io/fxHY1 15:06:54 <andythenorth> that seems to just be one line https://github.com/andythenorth/nml-andythenorth/commit/6103847357bd77d4c8699fd5276557f67befbfee 15:07:06 <andythenorth> maybe I didn't do the extra props yet? :o 15:07:19 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:08:03 <andythenorth> oh nml is here https://github.com/nielsmh/nml/commits/indcargonum 15:08:12 <andythenorth> that's better 15:08:39 <planetmaker> hm, I should continue making builds of NML a thing again 15:08:44 <planetmaker> proper ones 15:15:05 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:15:25 <andythenorth> yes that would be cool 15:15:34 <andythenorth> things have drifted a bit round here :) 15:16:29 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:21:47 <planetmaker> how can I force my master on github to be exactly like my local master (I don't want to merge, I want to overwrite what's on my github repo)? 15:23:13 <planetmaker> (and where did my travis build go I had setup for my personal nml repo? :| ) 15:23:18 <andythenorth> is that force push? 15:23:22 <andythenorth> I am hazy on force push in git 15:23:24 <planetmaker> dunno. I'm asking you 15:23:39 <andythenorth> I am the wrong person to ask :P 15:24:09 <andythenorth> my git use at work is very different to git use in OpenTTD 15:24:12 <andythenorth> so I keep doing it wrong 15:24:24 <planetmaker> https://github.com/planetmaker/nml/runs/26424033 ... there's my travis one 15:24:50 <planetmaker> but it's not yet a build... just passing regression tests 15:25:35 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 15:25:41 <planetmaker> quak 15:25:46 <frosch123> moo 15:26:18 <nielsm> yes, force push to force the remote to be identical to your local, without changing anything locally 15:26:58 <planetmaker> so, "hg push --force remoterepo branchname"? 15:27:03 <planetmaker> git push... 15:27:20 <planetmaker> (still happens 50% of the time I type hg instead of git) 15:28:54 <andythenorth> same 15:29:02 <andythenorth> for last 5 years :P 15:32:52 <LordAro> nielsm: \c is normally used for the shorter commands 15:33:59 <planetmaker> and how do I convince my git to use my ssh key instead of asking me for username and password? 15:34:04 <planetmaker> basics, I know... 15:34:20 <LordAro> for github? git@github.com:Foo/bar 15:34:22 <LordAro> as the remote 15:34:48 <LordAro> (likely, `git remote rename origin ....`) 15:35:00 <planetmaker> aye, thx. I'll try :) 15:35:02 <LordAro> set-url* 15:35:16 <LordAro> wait, that's entirely wrong 15:35:43 <LordAro> git remote set-url <foo> origin 15:35:44 <LordAro> i think 15:35:48 <LordAro> something close to that, anyway 15:37:08 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:40:07 <frosch123> planetmaker: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/ptp3apban <- that's how i use it, maybe it helps 15:40:07 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 15:40:11 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:40:31 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:40:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 15:40:49 <planetmaker> definitely does! Thanks a lot :) 15:40:50 <frosch123> "openttd" in this case, but nml is just the same 15:41:15 <planetmaker> fetchpr is a "new" command defined? 15:41:32 <frosch123> you can define aliases under [alias] 15:41:46 <frosch123> "git status" is too long for me, so i define "git st" 15:42:06 <frosch123> mostly because svn and hg also do that :) 15:42:22 <frosch123> "info" is also svn-inspired 15:42:45 <planetmaker> he, no pushurl to openttd? :D 15:42:46 <frosch123> "fetchpr" is just something you cannot remember otherwise :p 15:43:22 * LordAro has lots of aliases https://github.com/LordAro/dotfiles/blob/master/config/gitconfig#L24 15:43:23 <frosch123> planetmaker: the push protection only works for existing branches 15:43:27 <andythenorth> I was given this git config https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pss04mpkm/isaewa/raw 15:43:33 <LordAro> lg is an especially useful one 15:43:34 <frosch123> but apparently everyone can push new branches, so github meh :p 15:43:36 <planetmaker> good for OpenTTD, I gu3ess. And yes... there's many git commands which I can't remember at its length 15:43:55 <andythenorth> mine come from here I think https://github.com/plone/plone.dotfiles/blob/master/.gitconfig 15:44:25 <LordAro> i need to actually spend some time to update my dotfiles properly 15:44:26 <andythenorth> means I am useless with git over ssh :P 15:44:45 <LordAro> i have various diffs across lots of different computers 15:45:02 <andythenorth> putting the branch name in shell is the single most useful config item I've seen 15:45:05 <andythenorth> saves so much trouble 15:45:12 <frosch123> LordAro: 3 aliases for status :p 15:45:41 <LordAro> i was actually unaware i had anything other than st :p 15:46:38 <andythenorth> shell branch name + some completion thing https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pxg8qhtoo/iece5g/raw 15:49:02 <frosch123> planetmaker: anyway, git is a bit like perl. there are tons of methods to do the same thing, so everyone does it different 15:49:14 <andythenorth> probably mostly by copy-paste :P 15:49:18 <frosch123> i recommend to select a subset, and create your own python inside git :p 15:49:29 <frosch123> for example, i never use "branch" 15:49:39 <frosch123> i only use "checkout" and "checkout -b" 15:49:55 <frosch123> even if you have to use two commands every now and then instead of one :p 15:50:12 <LordAro> branch is useful for "i want to save the repo state and put it over here" 15:50:21 <LordAro> but yeah, mostly you want -b 15:50:24 <andythenorth> oof, how to fit 2CC into this sprite? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#pikel 15:50:31 <andythenorth> without it just being a mess 15:50:38 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:50:39 <frosch123> LordAro: yes, but using so many commands is confusing, so i just do two co :p 15:51:09 <LordAro> :p 15:51:29 <planetmaker> I'll steal co and ci and st from your examples :) 15:51:36 <planetmaker> I'm used to those abbreviations 15:52:42 <planetmaker> hm. and amend 15:58:27 *** quiznilo has joined #openttd 15:59:24 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1622 15:59:25 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 16:03:22 <planetmaker> I also like how I can define origin different for pull and push. :) 16:04:05 <LordAro> it's very occasionally useful :p 16:04:13 <LordAro> i usually use an origin + fork pair of remotes 16:04:52 <planetmaker> well, like frosch has in his version. I find it extremely useful :) 16:05:09 <planetmaker> thus origin is the default workflow. And others are only needed for special stuff 16:05:19 *** Guest1622 has quit IRC 16:05:30 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 16:41:10 *** rocky11384497 has joined #openttd 16:41:43 <nielsm> andythenorth: I'd make either the "snoots" a different color, or the lower row of pixels, on that loco 16:42:07 <andythenorth> I probably do the chassis 16:42:22 <andythenorth> don't want it to look same as http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#faun 16:43:00 <nielsm> ah 17:03:06 *** matthewprenger has joined #openttd 17:05:31 *** int__64 has joined #openttd 17:06:16 *** triolus has quit IRC 17:06:47 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly i overused the word possibly? https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1214166#p1214166 17:07:39 <planetmaker> possibly 17:11:45 *** matthewprenger has quit IRC 17:19:36 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 17:24:09 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:25:33 <andythenorth> oops 17:25:39 <andythenorth> spider solitaire 17:25:43 <andythenorth> that's 1 hour lost 17:25:54 <Eddi|zuHause> only one? how'd you manage that 17:26:01 <andythenorth> discipline 17:26:06 <andythenorth> I've spent 3 hours playing tanks 17:26:12 <andythenorth> also, static grfs, why? 17:26:20 <andythenorth> it's like the biggest non issue 17:26:50 <Eddi|zuHause> it's more a case of "why not?" 17:27:05 <andythenorth> ok 17:27:17 <andythenorth> I wonder if they've actually understood 17:47:28 *** |M1971| has joined #openttd 17:51:44 <planetmaker> my definition of "static-newgrf": only changes graphics without impacting *any* decision tree (including which graphics to show) 17:53:39 <frosch123> except for rivers/canals :p 17:54:12 <andythenorth> hmm my NG engine sprites suck 17:54:16 <andythenorth> not many pixels to use :P 17:58:07 *** yellyFish has joined #openttd 18:01:06 *** daniel228 has joined #openttd 18:06:03 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 18:09:22 <planetmaker> frosch123, yes-ish. But that could be the 2nd thought. One could check for features behaving well... and ignore it for rivers 18:29:49 *** triolus has joined #openttd 19:04:59 <andythenorth> hmm 19:05:02 <andythenorth> such pixels 19:11:15 *** triolus has quit IRC 19:16:15 <andythenorth> oof 19:16:20 <andythenorth> when is a consistency slavish? o_O 19:16:43 <andythenorth> all Horse brit trains have red buffer beam pixels 19:16:44 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html 19:16:59 <andythenorth> but the NG ones would look better without, that spot of red is too fussy 19:21:51 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:27:23 *** woodruffw has joined #openttd 19:29:04 *** woodruffw has quit IRC 19:31:57 *** triolus has joined #openttd 19:39:01 <andythenorth> clearly it's just me obsessing over 2 pixels :P 19:39:05 <andythenorth> nobody else cares :D 19:57:29 *** olgarrendi has joined #openttd 19:57:52 *** olgarrendi has left #openttd 20:01:17 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:01:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:40:54 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:53:43 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:59:05 <planetmaker> hm, which commit message will be seen when I merge a PR? 20:59:14 <planetmaker> via github 21:00:24 <LordAro> depends which method of merging you use :p 21:00:43 <LordAro> https://help.github.com/articles/about-pull-request-merges/ 21:00:53 <LordAro> rebase & merge is closest to svn behaviour 21:04:35 <planetmaker> this time I actually want to squash it... too many fixes for fixes :P 21:04:46 <planetmaker> https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/4 21:04:55 <LordAro> :) 21:06:40 *** glavinics has joined #openttd 21:07:42 <planetmaker> your link doesn't tell me about the commit message of the squashed version. Or am I blind? 21:08:19 <LordAro> i'm not sure what it does, or if it gives you the option to alter it 21:08:26 <LordAro> i think it might just be a combination of all commits 21:08:48 <LordAro> alternatively, you might want to squash all the commits yourself 21:08:54 <planetmaker> I guess, I'll just test it :P 21:09:01 <frosch123> planetmaker: on squash it prompts you for the message 21:09:31 <frosch123> it's also useful to fix spelling of people :p 21:10:43 <planetmaker> hm, but it seems to have used the PR title? 21:11:03 <frosch123> if you don't edit it 21:11:07 <planetmaker> Even though it prompted me to edit the commit message which defaulted to the commit messages of the single commits 21:11:17 <planetmaker> I did edit it though 21:11:42 <frosch123> you mean it dismissed your edit? 21:11:48 <planetmaker> The 2nd line is what I edited. The first, prominently one is the title of the PR 21:12:20 <LordAro> quick, amend and force push before anyone notices :p 21:12:28 <planetmaker> nah, that's totally fine :) 21:12:45 <frosch123> problem with squash is that it does not do the commit checks 21:12:54 <frosch123> so you get bad commits messages :) 21:15:58 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:16:22 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> my definition of "static-newgrf": only changes graphics without impacting *any* decision tree (including which graphics to show) <-- i'd say anything that doesn't affect gamestate, but you might get difficulty in checking whether that's the case 21:16:56 <Eddi|zuHause> "gamestate" is anything that is used to calculate the next gamestate in a tick 21:17:00 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, exactly. That's why this - simplistic - approach might be a feasible way. To get things at least done 21:17:13 <planetmaker> frosch123, indeed... 21:17:45 <planetmaker> apropos, frosch123 : can I have admin rights? I want to add webhooks to NML repo so that it builds upon commit or push 21:18:07 <planetmaker> having jenkins repeatedly query the repo seems like a totally backward way to do it 21:20:24 <frosch123> try again 21:20:46 <planetmaker> :) ty 21:21:01 *** glavinics has quit IRC 21:29:51 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1646 21:29:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 21:31:09 *** Guest1646 has quit IRC 21:38:46 *** neet has joined #openttd 21:54:30 *** hek has joined #openttd 21:59:11 <hek> im trying to use a savegame from a jgrpp-0.25.2 on a 1.8.0 and it says its from a "newer" version. I've tried downloading the spring 2013 v2.4.291 patchpack that says the same. 22:01:28 <andythenorth> can't load PP games 22:01:31 *** Spec-Chum17 has joined #openttd 22:01:32 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:01:52 *** Spec-Chum17 has quit IRC 22:02:31 <hek> how do i get around that then? 22:02:46 <frosch123> continue with jgrpp 22:02:52 <hek> cause i made the map on the 180 22:03:48 * andythenorth bed 22:04:38 *** hek has quit IRC 22:05:07 <planetmaker> hek... and gone 22:11:49 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:12:16 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 22:18:23 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:21:07 *** jvdmr has joined #openttd 22:21:10 <jvdmr> /!\ ATTN: This channel has moved to irc.freenode.net #/join /!\ 22:21:11 *** jvdmr has quit IRC 22:21:20 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:25:58 <planetmaker> well, of course not 22:35:37 <Eddi|zuHause> that would be a fun twist :p 22:42:10 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc opened pull request #6949: Eliminate ICU for OSX https://git.io/fxQWN 22:42:51 <Eddi|zuHause> "IBM buys RedHat"... what other world-ending news happened today? 22:47:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:03:50 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] lethosor commented on pull request #6949: Eliminate ICU for OSX https://git.io/fxQli 23:12:45 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc updated pull request #6949: Eliminate ICU for OSX https://git.io/fxQWN 23:20:22 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 23:21:15 *** phendryx has joined #openttd 23:21:15 <phendryx> /!\ ATTN: This channel has moved to irc.freenode.net #/join /!\ 23:21:16 *** phendryx has quit IRC 23:42:35 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc updated pull request #6949: Eliminate ICU for OSX https://git.io/fxQWN 23:49:24 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #6949: Eliminate ICU for OSX https://git.io/fxQ8F 23:51:35 *** neet has quit IRC 23:51:43 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 23:54:20 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:57:18 *** tlaxkit has quit IRC