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09:21:44  <Samu> hi
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10:30:19  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7962: Sprite sorter optimization https://git.io/JvY92
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12:49:32  <planetmaker> Message from OVH: "Termination of your VPS Classic 2014 services." as of 30 April 2020 @ TrueBrain, orudge
12:49:38  <planetmaker> (see e-mail info@)
12:50:07  <planetmaker> not sure what's actually running on a VPS tbh
12:50:34  <SpComb> my bitcoin miner
12:57:24  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: it'll be something that nobody thought about in the last 5 years, but turns out to be disrupting all services :p
12:57:48  <Artea> hi
12:57:52  <Artea> I got that mail too
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14:16:13  <Eddi|zuHause> i like the music in frostpunk, but man is that game hard
14:26:20  <Sacro> planetmaker: bananas?
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14:35:06  <Fahrradkette> hi everybody. The ingame content downloader is stuck at 0% forever even though "ss -t -r -p" reports an established tcp connection to openttd.org:80
14:35:21  <Fahrradkette> how could I figure out what's wrong?
14:35:52  <Fahrradkette> or should I just download it from bananas using firefox?
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14:48:06  <Eddi|zuHause> are you using ipv6?
14:48:40  <Fahrradkette> no, the connection is ipv4, it's over a nat though (mobile crap)
14:49:41  <Fahrradkette> more context: OTTD 1.8.3 from debian bullseys (testing)
14:50:00  <Eddi|zuHause> is the problem getting the list, or downloading the files?
14:50:08  <Fahrradkette> downloading the file itself
14:50:35  <Fahrradkette> when running openttd -d net=9 it says 345 bytes (or the like) downloaded
14:50:39  <Eddi|zuHause> it's almost certainly a problem on your end
14:50:43  <Fahrradkette> didn't setup wireshark yet
14:51:41  <Fahrradkette> what I originally wanted to do is downloading the OpenSFX soundset since only the null-soundset was available
14:52:15  <Fahrradkette> but in "~/.local/share/openttd/content_download/baseset/" there was a "OpenSFX-0.2.3.tar"
14:52:38  <Fahrradkette> it started showing up when running "openttd -S OpenSFX" once
14:52:55  <Eddi|zuHause> did you check the checksums?
14:53:29  <Fahrradkette> no I didn't
14:53:51  <Fahrradkette> (no idea how)
14:54:22  <Fahrradkette> also, the user files are from older versions, did 2 times dist-upgrade already
14:54:43  <Fahrradkette> might that be the reason there is a conflict?
15:01:13  <Eddi|zuHause> check that both the directory and files are writable?
15:04:15  <Fahrradkette> they're both owned by my local user with "-rw-r--r--" for the file and "drwxr-xr-x" for the directory
15:04:29  <Fahrradkette> does OTTD introduce another user?
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15:17:01  <Eddi|zuHause> not that i know of
15:18:45  <Fahrradkette> guess then it's not that. Anyhow it (ingame downloader) did download some other content eventually
15:20:46  <Fahrradkette> maybe it's just some bufferbloat on the way to the servers
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15:28:13  <Fahrradkette> Since it works now :) I've got another question: how do I make the station UI show the amount of cargo waiting?
15:35:45  <FLHerne> If there's cargo waiting, it's just shown in the main station window
15:36:25  <FLHerne> (some newgrfs also provide different graphics when there's cargo waiting
15:36:28  <FLHerne> )
15:37:14  <Fahrradkette> ah, the dropdown had "station-planned" selected
15:37:21  <Fahrradkette> instead of waiting
15:37:48  <Fahrradkette> what does planned mean? Is there a planner?
15:38:43  <Fahrradkette> as in logistics forecast, linear regression and the like
15:39:47  <FLHerne> Huh, I've literally never toggled that menu before :P
15:40:25  <FLHerne> I assume it's something Cargodist-related?
15:42:01  <Fahrradkette> oh cargodist
15:42:40  <Fahrradkette> the first thing I turn off
15:43:12  <nielsm> planned has something to do with cdist yes
15:43:21  <Fahrradkette> ah, thanks
15:43:22  <nielsm> also cdist is off by default
15:56:43  <planetmaker> @Sacro, I'm reasonably sure that bananas is not on the VPS... but not dead sure :P
15:57:56  <planetmaker> @Fahrradkette, I'm reasonably confident, that OpenSFX didn't change since 1.8... so the debian-provided OpenSFX should be fine
15:58:40  <planetmaker> yet I always recommend to download OpenTTD from the website... though I realize that's bad advice for linux :|
15:59:20  <planetmaker> sudo apt-get install-dep openttd && git clone https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD && cd OpenTTD && git checkout 1.10.0-beta2 && ./configure && make -j12 :)
15:59:35  <planetmaker> arg... build-dep instead of install-dep
16:00:28  <Fahrradkette> planetmaker: thanks. Even though I don't have a 12 thread cpu :)
16:00:54  <planetmaker> well, you don't need it :)
16:01:07  <planetmaker> it was a pun I couldn't help, sorry :P
16:01:14  <Fahrradkette> hrr hrr
16:02:07  <Fahrradkette> hope there'll be some atx boards with epic rome support soonish, like the ones with pcie4...then i'll be able to run your command
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16:03:24  <planetmaker> well, you can run it on any CPU. There's just little point in spawning more threads than cores (cores+1 is usually ok)
16:03:34  <planetmaker> more also... just no benefit any longer
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17:26:02  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: tnx for letting me know. It runs part of our old CDN. I think I can port away from it before that deadline .. so that is good :D having deadlines helps often with these things :D
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18:56:49  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on issue #7965: Conflict in financial data. https://git.io/JvYW8
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20:23:05  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #7956: Add: [NewGRF] Var 6A, querying GRFID of nearby station tiles https://git.io/JvOkO
20:23:27  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 merged pull request #7956: Add: [NewGRF] Var 6A, querying GRFID of nearby station tiles https://git.io/JvtUP
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20:28:03  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #7956: Add: [NewGRF] Var 6A, querying GRFID of nearby station tiles https://git.io/JvOk4
20:36:17  <frosch123> i wonder, is it possible to redirect wiki templates
20:36:36  <frosch123> like redirecting Template:Flyspray -> Template:GHIssue
20:42:18  <frosch123> i just used the new template inside the old template :)
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21:15:49  <LordAro> frosch123: for something simple like that, probably
21:16:01  <LordAro> others, like OTTDNewsArticle not so much
21:17:12  <frosch123> i see :)
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21:58:40  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/CompileFarm] LordAro commented on issue #22: Add Linux Generic binaries https://git.io/fhrKB
21:59:39  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/nml] LordAro dismissed a review for pull request #70: Binop cleanup https://git.io/JeNcZ
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22:19:39  <FLHerne> Oh, I need to get back to that
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22:36:08  <FLHerne> TrueBrain: Have you considered using Open Build Service https://openbuildservice.org/ ?
22:36:47  <FLHerne> It claims to automagically build packages for most common distros with little configuration
22:37:21  <FLHerne> Also, OpenSUSE host an instance which if I understand properly is open to FOSS projects
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22:44:44  <peter1138> Hi.
22:45:03  <peter1138> Oh god I go out for one evening and there's so many videos to catch up on :(
22:45:10  <peter1138> Why did I become a YouTube leech?
22:45:10  <LordAro> peter1138: good ride?
22:45:21  <peter1138> Eh, not really, actually, heh.
22:45:22  <LordAro> peter1138: i recommend moving somewhere with terrible internet
22:45:25  <peter1138> Heh
22:45:33  <peter1138> 1 guy down due to upset tummy...
22:45:44  <peter1138> 1 guy down due to front wheel bearings seizing up!
22:46:22  <peter1138> Leader a bit demoralized I think.
22:46:43  <peter1138> I mean, I was glad to be out, in the muck, heh...
22:47:13  <peter1138> Homemade pan pizza. I probably ought not watch that.
22:48:28  <peter1138> Oh, and the Garmin ran out of battery, heh.
22:49:01  <LordAro> unfortunate
22:49:10  <LordAro> what sort of lights do you have for that sort of ride?
22:49:19  <peter1138> Lucky I have the Fitbit to continue recording, heh.
22:49:34  <peter1138> I use a Exposure Diablo headmount light.
22:49:52  <peter1138> And just a regular 400 lumen or so mounted to the bars./
22:49:59  <LordAro> and that's enough to see trees etc? or is it a fairly wide path?
22:50:36  <peter1138> Yup, the Diablo is 1400 lumen and fairly wide beam.
22:54:41  <peter1138> Apparently I need an air fryer...
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23:34:11  <TrueBrain> FLHerne: you mean for generic linux binaries?
23:36:01  <FLHerne> TrueBrain: Either that, or to make generic binaries irrelevant by supporting all common distros/versions with real packages
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23:36:38  <FLHerne> (anyone using something truly obscure probably has a compiler :P)
23:37:09  <TrueBrain> FLHerne: I ahve not considered anything. Basically, I have been asking for other people to solve this issue for OpenTTD
23:37:26  <TrueBrain> I have no interest and no time to do anything with it .. how the CI works is fully in the open, so I would appreciate any contribution
23:37:34  <TrueBrain> and ofc I can help with pointers how to do what/where etc
23:38:20  <FLHerne> Fair
23:38:44  <TrueBrain> so if you are up for it, we would really appreciate the contribution

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