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Log for #openttd on 24th June 2020:
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00:15:56  <Speeder> the order you define industries in a nml changes anything?
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00:36:16  <glx> it changes the ids, but usually it doesn't really matter
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00:52:13  <Speeder> FIRS generated nml is very messy... is that normal in nmls in general or it is just FIRS?
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06:27:56  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/Jfpuo
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09:13:32  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] abmyii commented on pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/Jfpoq
09:14:47  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] abmyii updated pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/JfpUS
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10:01:39  <FLHerne> Speeder: Mostly FIRS, or generated code in general
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13:05:36  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened pull request #8237: Feature: Increase max possible distance from border for oil refineries and rigs https://git.io/Jfp95
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13:46:05  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #8237: Feature: Increase max possible distance from border for oil refineries and rigs https://git.io/Jfp7e
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15:08:24  <milek7> woah
15:08:29  <milek7> they redesigned github
15:09:11  <andythenorth> I got that a while back
15:09:16  <andythenorth> gradual rollout
15:09:25  <andythenorth> it's not worse
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15:14:23  <nielsm> at least it's wider
15:14:30  <nielsm> I'm not sure I like the flatter buttons
15:15:23  <nielsm> but that's the circle of UI design: flat, strong 3D bevels, weaker 3D bevels, gradients, back to flat
15:17:03  <nielsm> sometimes taking a detour through skeuomorphism
15:22:06  <milek7> it is wider, though?
15:22:12  <milek7> code/issues/pull/... bar moves to edges
15:22:28  <milek7> but body still says centered with fixed size
15:22:36  <nielsm> it uses more of the width of my browser window in most views
15:24:07  <nielsm> e.g. the issues list used to be something more like this: https://0x0.st/i404.png
15:27:46  <milek7> silly, that code/issues bar is so far away near edge
15:27:48  <milek7> but code block still won't expand to all that free space
15:27:51  <milek7> https://i.imgur.com/0CQ90J2.png
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15:29:13  <milek7> (not that previously it was wider, but it was more consistent at least)
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16:07:47  <Cursarion> so, has the thingie with one way roads and drive-through stops been fixed? I think once upon a time they only worked for one side
16:08:11  <Cursarion> like, can you get both one-way lanes to use drive-through stops
16:10:12  <LordAro> nothing in that area has changed recently
16:10:20  <LordAro> so unless it was fixed years ago...
16:10:23  <Cursarion> it's been a few years
16:10:34  <Cursarion> oh well, just installed the latest one, I'll just see if it works
16:11:21  <nielsm> roadvehs don't even use the second lane of one-way roads normally
16:11:43  <nielsm> and overtaking is almost just a visual trick
16:12:01  <LordAro> and road vehicle stations have no concept of "one way"
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16:21:24  <dP> what's the fastes way to link a standalone .so for testing with new cmake stuff?
16:21:41  <Cursarion> so it's half the efficiency with one-way drive-through stops?
16:25:50  <nielsm> yes, a drive-through linked directly to a one-way road will only ever have one side of it filled
16:28:03  <nielsm> and that's one (more) reason I think NewRoadStops should be ambitious and allow custom layouts and paths through
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16:28:18  <LordAro> dP: not entirely sure what you're doing, but target_link_libraries(openttd /path/to/library.so) should work?
16:28:21  <LordAro> https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/command/target_link_libraries.html
16:30:32  <dP> LordAro, yeah, seems to work, thx
16:30:39  <Cursarion> nielsm: that's a bummer
16:32:10  <Cursarion> also, if you're choosing to have water at the map edge, is it possible to make the water are bigger? I'd like to have bit more of the ocean there
16:39:13  <nielsm> that's not configurable now
16:39:38  <LordAro> Cursarion: you can increase the amount of water generally by increasing the sea level
16:39:53  <LordAro> won't necessarily increase the amount of water at the edge though
16:47:07  <Cursarion> yep. it'd be handy
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17:22:02  <Wolf01> Nas back online, and disk errors disappeared
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17:45:54  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JfhJv
17:45:54  <DorpsGek_III>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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17:47:19  <LordAro> Wolf01: i would treat it with suspicion
17:49:58  <nielsm> yeah it's definitely a Backup Forcing Event
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18:17:07  <Wolf01> I flashed the firmware... that's what always had problems, my first nas died for disk problems and it was totally different
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18:19:23  <Wolf01> Yesterday I ran a check on the disk... no errors, but the nas continued to say there were errors
18:20:20  <Wolf01> Rebooted... no boot
18:22:25  <andythenorth> today was mostly cookie law
18:22:26  <andythenorth> and PECR
18:23:08  <TrueBrain> hmmm ... cookies :)
18:23:12  <TrueBrain> can I have some? :D
18:23:29  <Wolf01> Today was mostly "boss: we are in 2020, how a web app can't handle 200k+ records loaded in memory and do stuff with it?"
18:30:24  <TrueBrain> Today I found out that my room temperature has a direct correlation with my ability to write reports :D
18:33:53  <andythenorth> you and all my employees
18:33:55  <andythenorth> and me
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18:34:19  <andythenorth> I sat in the dark and read https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2014/wp224_en.pdf
18:34:22  <andythenorth> and https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2012/wp194_en.pdf
18:36:00  <TrueBrain> sounds like fun :D
18:36:53  <TrueBrain> (please don't ask me to read them :P)
18:38:14  <andythenorth> TrueBrain please can you read them?
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18:38:22  <TrueBrain> ragequits
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18:38:47  <LordAro> this afternoon has been replacing some js with some php
18:38:57  <TrueBrain> so one bad for one worse
18:38:57  <TrueBrain> nice
18:39:30  <LordAro> pretty much
18:40:06  <TrueBrain> I hate that my airco is installed in 4 weeks ... but it is now 30+ degrees outside .. FML :P
18:40:15  <TrueBrain> is installed? Will be installed
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18:45:33  <Wolf01> I can't understand if we can't turn on the air conditioned system because the fear of covid or because it doesn't work at all
18:45:59  <TrueBrain> lolz .. I am happy at the office we can run airco just fine :)
18:46:04  <Wolf01> 34°C the last 2 days here
18:46:05  <TrueBrain> sadly, we are not really welcome in the office :P
18:47:21  <TrueBrain> 34 ... that is well behind my "able to work" temp :P
18:47:31  <TrueBrain> I do love staring walls when it gets that hot :D
18:47:43  <TrueBrain> or play the game: DO NOT MOVE A MUSCLE
18:47:52  <milek7> almost nobody cares now about covid there
18:48:56  <Wolf01> Even there nobody does, and everyone is walking around protecting the chin only... because you all know you get the covid from the chin
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19:10:21  <frosch123> apparently it is spread via raw meat
19:23:46  <Wolf01> I have the luck to live in one of the least hit area of north Italy, but here is full of idiots
19:25:46  <frosch123> here >30% of new cases are in the meat industry
19:26:35  <Wolf01> That's because of the living conditions of the workers, as I read
19:26:48  <frosch123> yep, modern slavery
19:27:30  <frosch123> clothes can be done in 3rd world, meat is done here
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19:30:59  <andythenorth> where is PECR compliance done?
19:31:22  <frosch123> in your bath room
19:45:00  <Wolf01> Like google's testing on the toilet?
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20:38:44  <supermop_Home> Wolf01 my office is a small room in my apartment with no ac
20:39:21  <supermop_Home> tho only 30C here today
20:39:51  <supermop_Home> Monday was about 34
20:42:13  <supermop_Home> also what infuriates me is the people who wear the mask over their mouth but below their nose
20:42:20  <supermop_Home> like, why?
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21:31:33  <Wolf01> <supermop_Home> like, why? <- exactly
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23:06:17  <FLHerne> > 2271 unread emails
23:06:22  <FLHerne> I should do something about this
23:08:31  <dP> try subscribing to mailing lists
23:08:33  <dP> I have > 20k
23:09:18  <dP> about 5k from openttd github xD
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