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"this will permanently delete the data" ... it always scares me ... double checked I have a backup .. LETS GO 11:01:10 <LordAro> \o/ 11:01:20 <TrueBrain> I DID IT! 11:01:29 <TrueBrain> okay ... I guess I will wipe the disks too now 11:01:34 <TrueBrain> just .. because I can? 11:01:49 <TrueBrain> OVH says they will do it too, but better safe than sorry? 11:02:17 <LordAro> that is standard practice 11:02:41 <TrueBrain> last intervention we had on that server was in 2017 .. damn, that shit is stable 11:02:52 <LordAro> can you imagine the lawsuits if they gave someone a server with (reused) disks that had someone else's data on them? :p 11:03:08 <TrueBrain> it happens .. just by sear accident 11:03:25 <TrueBrain> sear? Well, what-ever 11:03:31 <TrueBrain> sometimes I type things and my mind goes: THAT IS WRONG 11:03:53 <TrueBrain> sheer would be the better word 11:04:24 <TrueBrain> owh, this machine had hardware raid .. wow 11:04:36 <LordAro> for sure 11:04:47 <LordAro> hardware raid and it still didn't fail every 6 months? 11:04:50 <LordAro> i'm impressed 11:05:08 <TrueBrain> or because of that? :P 11:06:16 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 11:07:07 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttd 11:07:57 *** Johnny_B has joined #openttd 11:09:48 *** Johnny_B has joined #openttd 11:10:07 <TrueBrain> an URL I submitted to google 2 weeks ago, I now get an email about .. poeh 11:10:39 <Johnny_B> Hello guys, I'm totally new here 11:11:11 <TrueBrain> hello Johnny_B , I am not 11:11:37 <TrueBrain> So Google emails me an URL is not indexed properly, as it returned a 404, but when I look up the URL in their inspector, it tells me everything is fine .. this is confusing :P 11:13:39 <LordAro> TrueBrain: sounds like something very strange is going on for you 11:13:55 <TrueBrain> Google is just a mess atm ... and they know it, that is the worst part 11:14:17 <Johnny_B> I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'm having problems with cpack on Mac OS. A cpack generated bundle just does not start, and gives Dyld error message saying Symbol not found: _iconv. This is the case for the patch pack I'm trying to use as well as for the latest release. Anyone has any clue? And if this is not the right place, the where is? 11:14:19 <TrueBrain> and I wish it was me, as that means I could fix it :) 11:15:20 <TrueBrain> this is the right place Johnny_B , at least, I would like to think so .. the question is if anyone is around that can help you out with this :D 11:15:46 <LordAro> no andy this morning 11:15:52 <LordAro> sounds like a missing dependency though 11:15:59 <Johnny_B> Okay well I'll just wait around and see what happens then 11:16:19 <TrueBrain> what is odd that the headers are clearly there, but the library isn't :P 11:16:35 <Johnny_B> Yes I've checked that but it all seems to be pointing in the right place 11:17:09 <TrueBrain> in the .. hmm .. what was that file called again .. in the build folder, there is a cmake file with all the options it detected etc 11:17:16 <TrueBrain> there is Iconv_INCLUDE_DIR and Iconv_LIBRARY_NAMES 11:17:24 <TrueBrain> might be interesting to see what they mention 11:17:44 <andythenorth> LordAro I am here, but I would be into wooooooo 11:17:46 <andythenorth> I don't know 11:17:48 <TrueBrain> but did Mac also uses iconv? 11:17:54 <Johnny_B> Yes I've checked there, and they point to the right spot. 11:17:59 <andythenorth> is this just 'Apple broke Xcode again?' 11:18:13 <Johnny_B> I believe iconv was needed on Mac OS 11:18:21 <andythenorth> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes/xcode-10-release-notes#Command-Line-Tools 11:18:29 <andythenorth> I'm not saying that ^ is the cause 11:18:39 <andythenorth> but it has smacked lots of projects this year 11:18:39 <Johnny_B> Hmm maybe Andy but my installation is fairy recent 11:19:26 <TrueBrain> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57734434/libiconv-or-iconv-undefined-symbol-on-mac-osx 11:19:27 <andythenorth> FWIW my build worked last time I checked, on 10.15.7 11:19:32 <TrueBrain> these kind of stackoverflows scare me :P 11:19:34 <andythenorth> using brew 11:19:59 <andythenorth> TrueBrain they often contain advice like 'just ln the libs' 11:20:03 <andythenorth> which then causes broken later 11:20:11 <TrueBrain> no, read this thread 11:20:13 <andythenorth> and the declaration "you're system is fucked" 11:20:19 <TrueBrain> basically, depending on your source of iconv, it can differ :P 11:20:39 <Johnny_B> Yes that's what I made out of that post 11:20:44 <andythenorth> "In an effort to get your compile to work, you might have added a new path to DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH (in ~/.bash_profile or similar) pointing to the GNU iconv libs in order to "help" the linker find things. This will come back to bite you at another time/day when something completely unrelated to what you're doing now is looking for the MacOSX iconv libs and instead pulls in the GNU libiconv libs" 11:20:58 <andythenorth> ha someone on SO has learned the hard way :) 11:21:04 <andythenorth> upvote that person 11:21:08 <Johnny_B> Haha yes I believe so 11:21:37 <andythenorth> let's rent a mac on the cloud and test it :P 11:21:46 <TrueBrain> well, the Mac binaries compile every night 11:21:49 <TrueBrain> so for sure it "works for us" 11:21:54 <TrueBrain> but that is not helping Johnny_B at all :) 11:21:54 <Johnny_B> The build runs fine by the way, it's the bundle that will not start 11:22:29 <TrueBrain> if I read that SO, I would guess, it picks a different iconv .. the trick now is, how to avoid that from happening 11:22:31 <andythenorth> Johnny_B which OS version, which Xcode? 11:22:59 <Johnny_B> OS version is 11, the all-new Big Sur 11:23:27 <LordAro> ah, then you probably want orudge :p 11:23:38 <LordAro> i think he said he got it to work... 11:23:47 <Johnny_B> Xcode is 12.2 11:25:55 <TrueBrain> Google tells me in a Live URL test that an URL is returning 404, but .. I do not see their request back in the logs :P 11:27:51 <Johnny_B> I think so LordAro 11:27:57 <TrueBrain> the traffic spike last night was about 5 hours btw, just as a fun fact :) 11:28:23 <andythenorth> I have 10.15.7 and Xcode 12.1, I'm testing if build works 11:31:15 <andythenorth> so hungry 11:31:19 * andythenorth snax 11:32:39 <TrueBrain> okay, so Google is throwing "soft 404", which means Google thinks it is a 404, but the server returns it as a 200 ... in this case: https://wiki.openttd.org/Template/nl/Opmerking 11:32:45 <TrueBrain> so it is Google failing to understand a wiki :D 11:32:56 <TrueBrain> cute 11:34:59 <andythenorth> Johnny_B sorry, this doesn't help, but OpenTTD builds and runs fine for me 11:35:00 <andythenorth> I use 11:35:03 <andythenorth> rm -rf build; mkdir build; cd build; CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH="/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include" cmake ..; make 11:35:26 <andythenorth> usually with -j16 flag, but that's up to you 11:35:30 <TrueBrain> and now make the cpack ;) 11:35:39 <Johnny_B> Okay andythenorth that's fine so far, but now the cpack 11:35:52 <TrueBrain> and now andythenorth is going to ask: wtf is cpack :D 11:36:09 <andythenorth> wtf is cpack? 11:36:39 <andythenorth> "Cpack is a UK based specialist packaging machine systems manufacturer." :P 11:40:31 <TrueBrain> just run "cpack" :) 11:41:22 <TrueBrain> (in your build folder) 11:44:31 <andythenorth> CPack: - checksum file: bundles/openttd-20200902-master-g53a3d940b1-macosx.dmg.sha256 generated 11:44:37 <andythenorth> CPack: - package: bundles/openttd-20200902-master-g53a3d940b1-macosx.dmg generated. 11:44:47 <andythenorth> now I have some package I can run? 11:45:04 <andythenorth> ok 11:45:20 <TrueBrain> you now have a `dmg`, yes 11:45:28 <TrueBrain> which you can double-click to start OpenTTD, at least, it should 11:45:37 <andythenorth> starts, fails on baseset missing, but it opens 11:45:40 <TrueBrain> fully self-contained version of OpenTTD :) 11:46:01 <TrueBrain> Johnny_B: so it really seems to be a local issue, and I would guess it is because iconv is installed twice on your system: once the Mac variant, once the GNU 11:46:10 <TrueBrain> sadly, really hart to debug from here :( 11:46:24 <TrueBrain> okay, I am wiping a 2TB disk at 200MB/s 11:46:27 <Johnny_B> TrueBrain: that's the idea, but not working 11:46:27 <andythenorth> ssh to your mac :P 11:46:30 <andythenorth> open the ports 11:46:32 <andythenorth> trust TB 11:46:35 <TrueBrain> @calc 2*1024 / 200 11:46:35 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 10.24 11:46:47 <TrueBrain> @calc 2 10241024/200 11:46:47 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Error: invalid syntax (<unknown>, line 1) 11:46:55 <TrueBrain> @calc 2 * 1024 * 1024 / 200 11:46:55 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 10485.76 11:46:57 <Johnny_B> Yes I will try to boot the Macports iconv and see how it goes 11:46:58 <TrueBrain> 3 hours 11:47:16 <Johnny_B> Boot as in throw out 😁 11:47:27 <TrueBrain> Johnny_B: btw, there is a pretty decent chance the CPack is not perfect; not sure if anyone really tested the bundle before 11:47:36 <TrueBrain> we welcome any contribution to making it better :D 11:48:16 <Johnny_B> andythenorth: do you use any package manager like homebrew or macports? 11:51:38 <andythenorth> brew 11:52:57 <Johnny_B> Okay, maybe I'll try that then 11:53:35 <Johnny_B> The good'ol make bundle always worked fine, but that will be over soon I'm afraid 12:01:09 <Johnny_B> Out of time for today, will try tomorrow. Thanks for the help all! 12:02:52 <andythenorth> NP 12:20:15 *** Johnny_B has quit IRC 12:21:17 *** Johnny_B has joined #openttd 12:23:43 <Johnny_B> O man, irc has been to long. Did I took someone else's nickname? 12:24:07 <Johnny_B> And how would I go about registering 12:26:28 <_dp_> if I want a github-based wiki as a flask module but don't particularly care about it using mediawiki format is there any point checking truewiki or are there better options? 12:27:14 *** Johnny_B has quit IRC 12:28:13 *** Johnny_B has joined #openttd 12:32:13 *** arikover has joined #openttd 12:33:06 *** Johnny_B has quit IRC 12:34:07 *** JohnnyB has joined #openttd 12:35:31 *** arikover` has joined #openttd 12:39:25 *** arikover has quit IRC 12:39:54 <JohnnyB> Never mind, fixed it 👍 12:43:53 <TrueBrain> _dp_: why do you want to have it as a flask module .. that sounds like a weird requirement? 12:44:08 <TrueBrain> but TrueWiki is build on aiohttp, so there would be a bit of friction there 12:44:22 <_dp_> TrueBrain, because I want to integrate it into existing website? 12:44:44 <TrueBrain> personally, I would advise against running it in the same instance of another website 12:44:51 <TrueBrain> and use a reverse proxy to split out the traffic 12:44:57 <TrueBrain> but that is simply because of the complexity of a wiki 12:45:28 <TrueBrain> (run the existing website in flask, run TrueWiki or gollum or what-ever, nginx in front, based on path, redirect to either of the two) 12:46:00 <TrueBrain> but to answer your question directly: we only know of gollum and TrueWiki which can store data on git, where TrueWiki has code to push/pull from GitHub 12:46:04 <TrueBrain> gollum is written in Ruby 12:46:45 <TrueBrain> you could hook TrueWiki in a flask app (webroutes are relative compatible), but TrueWiki uses asyncio to do background tasks .. not sure how that would go in a flask app honestly 12:48:05 <_dp_> if I run it separately I'll have to somehow reuse base templates to integrate it into the website markup 12:48:14 <_dp_> which I guess isn't completely impossible... 12:48:46 <TrueBrain> what-ever you choose, I am more than willing to help you out making TrueWiki more compatible with what-ever your goal is :) 12:49:31 <TrueBrain> and why did pyup not make a PR for eints .. hmm ... hopefully it comes today? 12:49:59 <_dp_> well... at this point I'm not rly sure I need a wiki tbh xD 12:50:04 <_dp_> more like cms or smth 12:50:29 <_dp_> basically have the same format for forum and content and mb wiki 12:50:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain updated pull request #77: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUiT 12:50:53 <_dp_> some kind of extended markdown 12:51:01 <_dp_> with galleries, tables and stuff 12:51:18 <TrueBrain> there is also wikitexthtml, which transforms wikitext to html 12:51:23 <TrueBrain> TrueWiki is a wrapper around that 12:51:36 <TrueBrain> there is also wikitextparser, which transforms wikitext to Python structures 12:51:42 <TrueBrain> wikitexthtml is a wrapper around that :P 12:51:52 <TrueBrain> but that requires more work implementing that, of course :) 12:52:32 <TrueBrain> otherwise, you have the GitHub Markdown, which has some extended features over normal Markdown 12:53:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-cli] TrueBrain updated pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUiW 12:53:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain updated pull request #50: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUir 12:53:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #38: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUiF 12:53:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #22: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUP1 12:53:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain updated pull request #17: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUPF 12:55:06 <TrueBrain> but wikitext is the most rich markup language I know .. too rich for my personal taste :D 12:59:29 <_dp_> guess I'll check wikitext then 12:59:46 <_dp_> kinda have my own version of extended markdown already though 13:00:28 <TrueBrain> github.com/TrueBrain/wikitexthtml and https://github.com/5j9/wikitextparser might help you with wikitext .. just know it is only a subset of wikitext, as wikitext is defined by the mediawiki implementation, which is full of bugs :P 13:00:46 <TrueBrain> well, you can create your own wiki with markdown, I guess 13:01:31 <TrueBrain> writing your own wiki is not -that- difficult honestly .. just a lot of work :) 13:01:34 <_dp_> yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if it's easier to use existing stuff or continue with my own 13:02:06 <TrueBrain> not sure how many wikis exist based on markdown with git support 13:02:11 <TrueBrain> gollum for one does that 13:02:15 <TrueBrain> (but again, ruby) 13:03:38 <_dp_> well, considering there are hardly anyone editing our wiki I can probably just drop the github/wiki part completely and just edit it myself xD 13:03:56 <TrueBrain> well, if that is the case, many more options exist 13:04:03 <TrueBrain> for one, you can use the GitHub interface as "editor" for your wiki 13:06:26 <_dp_> hm, I can drop wiki but not forum and considering it's mostly the same thing mb I shouldn't use github at all 13:06:39 <_dp_> github just gives easy versioning and lazy editor xD 13:07:12 <TrueBrain> yup :) 13:10:18 <_dp_> it's weird there don't seem to be any kind of general editing platforms 13:10:35 <_dp_> there are wikis, forums and cmses but good luck merging them into anything sane 13:11:01 <andythenorth> there are headless CMSes 13:11:05 <andythenorth> like contentful 13:11:15 <andythenorth> where you can build arbitrary content types 13:11:25 <andythenorth> I keep thinking I'll switch, but somehow never do 13:12:09 <_dp_> is that even free? 13:13:32 <andythenorth> nope 13:13:58 <andythenorth> there's a free tier, but I would be buying it for work purposes if I switched 13:14:47 <Timberwolf> I wonder if my previous+1 company ever got a headless CMS set up. 13:15:11 <Timberwolf> We were using some horrific jury-rigged system which involved screen-scraping our own Sitecore instance. 13:15:23 <andythenorth> I have a horrible solution using Wordpress headless to merge the content into our proper CMS 13:15:38 *** arikover` has quit IRC 13:15:49 <andythenorth> Wordpress is the evils in my experience, but for blog type content, what else is there eh? 13:15:55 <Timberwolf> Together with the usual fun of, "someone changed the text in a header, and now the entire mobile app has no content for any resources" 13:16:17 <andythenorth> it's reassuring how strung together the world is 13:17:03 <andythenorth> Lego is a great toy, but gives us completely the wrong model of the world 13:17:11 <Timberwolf> Back when I worked in insurance there was an awful lot of "the output for this regulator requirement is a fixed-width text file in ASCII encoding, here is the field specification" 13:17:18 <andythenorth> RL does not neatly fit together in a grid system, with perfect interlocking 13:18:02 <Timberwolf> Because the people on fancy web-based stacks could do that a lot easier than the people running RPG on AS/400 (i-series) could do XML. 13:18:36 <andythenorth> oof 13:21:46 *** arikover` has joined #openttd 13:23:05 <andythenorth> Timberwolf found your YT. FIRS 4 steeltown with plateways, that's go hard or go home :) 13:23:37 <Timberwolf> It was fine until I got bitten by my own "running costs escalate with vehicle age" feature. 13:24:07 <Timberwolf> I should revisit that, it applies a disproportionate penalty to earlier/cheaper vehicles. 13:25:27 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:25:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 13:26:55 <andythenorth> I have a similar issue in Horse 13:27:17 <andythenorth> but it manifests as year 2000+ vehicles are just too cheap 13:27:51 <andythenorth> it's not easy to account for effects of speed and capacity increases :P 13:28:36 <Timberwolf> Trains does the same thing as Transport Fever, once something gets within a few years of its maximum age the running cost starts increasing. 13:29:39 <Timberwolf> For most vehicles, that means they are ~10-20% more expensive at the point the age "goes red" than they were when new (and continue to get more expensive) 13:29:50 <andythenorth> pikka does that 13:30:10 <Timberwolf> Horses have such a low base cost it's more like 10x (because the increase is linear, not based on the original cost) 13:30:30 * andythenorth stays away from the 'early game' thing :) 13:30:34 <Timberwolf> 1.2.0 makes it a bit less vicious for the early vehicles. 13:30:43 <andythenorth> I think it needs a 128x128 map, and a slight rescaling of...everything 13:30:49 <Timberwolf> The people who play early game are real fanatics! 13:30:54 *** arikover` has quit IRC 13:31:07 <andythenorth> I did it a few times with HEQS and eGRVTS and the sailing ship thing 13:31:10 <Timberwolf> Road Vehicles they wanted the stagecoaches to have fully realistic speeds and capacities. 13:31:21 <andythenorth> not my kind of fun :D 13:32:11 <Timberwolf> Sailing ships makes it a lot easier, but you end up with 4-5 ships subsidising a single bus route with about 300 stagecoaches on it. 13:32:50 <Timberwolf> Tyler's Improved Town thingy solves a bunch of that by reducing the population density of early towns so you still have a manageable amount of passengers. 13:40:32 *** JohnnyB has quit IRC 13:43:17 *** JohnnyB has joined #openttd 13:43:49 *** JohnnyB is now known as Guest7377 13:57:01 *** Extrems has joined #openttd 14:00:09 <orudge> [11:47:27] <TrueBrain> Johnny_B: btw, there is a pretty decent chance the CPack is not perfect; not sure if anyone really tested the bundle before <-- this is my intention as part of building a Universal bundle; unfortunately neither MacPorts nor Homebrew are properly supporting Universal yet. 14:00:24 <orudge> I got most of it working with MacPorts I think but an iconv issue did crop up I believe 14:00:48 <TrueBrain> I would really dislike if we got universal bundles again, you know ... 14:00:49 <orudge> vcpkg looks promising, but something's "wrong" with the way they compile libpng for ARM which I need to debug and fix 14:00:55 <TrueBrain> they take for ever to build, and are HUGE downloads 14:01:06 <orudge> TrueBrain: It's the standard for macOS, at least for the next few years... 14:01:10 <TrueBrain> but I am sure that is the "mac way" :( 14:01:14 <orudge> but we will see 14:01:23 <TrueBrain> it is really a bad solution ... we pay double the price for every download made 14:01:41 <TrueBrain> can't we make 2 bundles, one named "M1", the other something else, I wonder 14:01:45 <orudge> I've got it working, but getting it working in a nice way that can be deployed to GitHub Actions or Azure might be fun 14:01:48 <orudge> Well, yes, that is an option 14:01:54 <orudge> In some ways that's an easier option 14:02:06 <TrueBrain> I would really prefer that, simply from an expense point of view 14:02:13 <TrueBrain> Mac builds are already big ... :P 14:02:16 <orudge> Just finding the time is the fun bit :) 14:02:49 <TrueBrain> as I wrote in the news post: we are not in our 20s anymore orudge ;) 14:03:36 <orudge> Quite :) 14:04:03 <TrueBrain> says the person without a job playing Satisfactory, but that is not the point :D 14:10:38 <LordAro> :D 14:10:54 <Timberwolf> Not long before my TTO and TTD CDs aren't even in their 20s. 14:31:52 <TrueBrain> LordAro: if you can approve those 6 PRs with version bumps, I would appreciate that :D 14:32:31 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:36:50 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:37:03 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 15:42:04 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 15:42:14 <TrueBrain> 2000240508928 bytes (2.0 TB, 1.8 TiB) copied, 14120.3 s, 142 MB/s 15:42:17 <TrueBrain> orudge: disks are wiped :P 15:46:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] LordAro approved pull request #77: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JII9l 15:47:57 <TrueBrain> LordAro: btw, I made a script that squashes the commits, fixes the commit message, etc :P Got bored of doing it by hand :D 15:48:12 <LordAro> i did wonder 15:48:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] LordAro approved pull request #17: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JII9S 15:48:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] LordAro approved pull request #22: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JII9H 15:48:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] LordAro approved pull request #38: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JII97 15:49:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] LordAro approved pull request #50: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JII9d 15:51:01 <TrueBrain> only https://github.com/OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-cli/pull/15 left LordAro :D 15:51:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain merged pull request #77: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUiT 15:51:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain merged pull request #17: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUPF 15:51:36 <LordAro> it's not listed on the dashboard! 15:51:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #22: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUP1 15:51:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #38: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUiF 15:52:09 <TrueBrain> that is true ... it is not :P 15:53:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-cli] LordAro approved pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIIH9 15:54:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-cli] TrueBrain merged pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUiW 15:54:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain merged pull request #50: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/JIUir 15:54:46 <TrueBrain> so much spam! :P 15:54:53 <TrueBrain> and we are not even done yet :P 15:57:48 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:58:38 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:33:12 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:07:19 *** JohnnyB has joined #openttd 17:09:44 <JohnnyB> Lift off! andythenorth and TrueBrain, for good measure I completely removed Macports, and installed Homebrew. Build working fine, and also the bundle runs without any problem. 17:10:03 <andythenorth> happy days 17:10:09 <andythenorth> I abandoned macports a long time 17:10:21 <andythenorth> I don't love brew, and I don't 100% trust it, but it's more reliale 17:10:26 <andythenorth> reliable * 17:10:54 <JohnnyB> Now for the final test I need someone who has a Mac without a building environment to check if the bundle is standalone or if it still looks for local libraries. 17:11:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8344: Fix spelling https://git.io/JkX7d 17:11:10 <JohnnyB> Yes Brew was quite the eye opener 17:11:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #8331: Fix: [NoAI] don't notify caught exceptions https://git.io/JTWre 17:11:45 <JohnnyB> Seems much more stable 17:17:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #8340: Draft: Feature: Create Universal (x86_64 + Apple Silicon) build on macOS https://git.io/JILvN 17:23:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #8337: Fix: Suppress unnecessary warnings introduced in Xcode 12 https://git.io/JILf5 17:26:07 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:46:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.7 https://git.io/JILTx 17:48:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.7 https://git.io/JILkk 17:49:06 *** otetede has joined #openttd 17:49:14 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:50:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.15 https://git.io/JILkC 17:54:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.8 https://git.io/JILkb 17:54:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.7 https://git.io/JILkx 17:55:03 <TrueBrain> right, that is that for this month 17:58:16 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 18:03:07 <LordAro> was that 1 hour? :p 18:05:25 *** frosch12 has joined #openttd 18:05:53 *** supermop_Home has joined #openttd 18:06:04 <TrueBrain> I do would like a simple script to just "release, patch+1" 18:06:16 <TrueBrain> that is a bit annoying atm, looking up the last number, entering the next .. 18:07:13 <TrueBrain> hmm .. what might work, is to have some smoketest, that validates staging is working, and tags a new version after 18:08:15 <LordAro> tricky bit is "some smoketest" :p 18:08:51 <TrueBrain> well, the only thing I do is visit the website, click around a bit, start the game, check content service and master server 18:09:00 <TrueBrain> the last part might be tricky, but the first part should be easy :P 18:10:08 <LordAro> mm, some are easier than others :p 18:10:50 <TrueBrain> And anything is more than nothing 18:12:31 <TrueBrain> I guess it could be a GitHub workflow which you can fire manually 18:17:06 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:17:42 <Wolf01> Hmmm, nice :D Mashinky is now GTA where you build the world 18:22:05 *** tokai has joined #openttd 18:22:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 18:29:02 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 18:29:11 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 18:35:04 *** JohnnyB has quit IRC 18:52:22 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 18:52:34 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 18:53:38 * frosch123 joins andythenorth in not understanding discord 18:53:49 <andythenorth> it's just irc, but different 18:53:58 <andythenorth> I have to mute loads of channels and stuff 18:54:07 <frosch123> does it only work with a phone? 18:54:07 <andythenorth> and don't click on anything that is bouncing or animated 18:54:19 <andythenorth> works fine for me, just confusing 18:54:39 *** arikover` has joined #openttd 18:55:19 *** arikover has joined #openttd 18:55:36 <frosch123> frosch12: does this highlight at least properly? 18:55:47 <frosch12> pff. blue 19:00:53 *** arikover has quit IRC 19:01:06 *** arikover has joined #openttd 19:04:24 *** freenode has joined #openttd 19:04:59 <freenode> Hi, my automatic replacement list for busses only shows an older bus 19:05:31 <freenode> If I press on a depot, I can buy newer ones - is this a well know user issue? What might be the problem? 19:06:18 <andythenorth> seems I have made newgrf frameworks by accident :P 19:15:49 *** JohnnyB has joined #openttd 19:15:51 <frosch12> lies, you made at least 3 19:15:59 *** arikover` has joined #openttd 19:17:56 <andythenorth> lies! 19:18:02 <andythenorth> I started at least 3 19:19:31 *** arikover` has quit IRC 19:21:14 *** arikover has quit IRC 19:29:27 <andythenorth> funniest idea I've seen today 19:29:41 <andythenorth> USA 2020 was rigged, only it was the republicans 19:46:48 *** m1cr0man has joined #openttd 19:51:18 *** otetede has quit IRC 19:55:44 *** Samu has joined #openttd 19:56:13 *** frosch12 has left #openttd 20:03:25 <andythenorth> discord just got a lot better 20:03:30 <andythenorth> I found the 'skip all tips' option 20:03:53 <frosch123> maybe i did it wrong by trying their website 20:04:08 <frosch123> but they maxed out my wtf-meter 20:04:13 <frosch123> maybe they think i am a bot 20:04:44 <andythenorth> I am doing fine with https://discord.com/channels/142724111502802944/477434889508093952 20:05:00 <andythenorth> oh I just turned off the member list, even better 20:05:12 <andythenorth> and I silenced most of the channels 20:05:40 <andythenorth> oh and I can even hide muted channels 20:07:12 <andythenorth> I might have to run it in a dedicated browser though 20:11:05 *** Smedles has quit IRC 20:12:27 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 20:14:04 *** Smedles has quit IRC 20:15:27 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 20:17:55 <andythenorth> TrueBrain google indexed me! 20:18:00 <andythenorth> FFS, that took a while 20:18:17 <TrueBrain> it also is slowly getting the wiki right 20:18:22 <TrueBrain> but boy, getting ride of 404s takes FOR EVER 20:18:24 <TrueBrain> never knew 20:23:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #8340: Draft: Feature: Create Universal (x86_64 + Apple Silicon) build on macOS https://git.io/JILlb 20:25:05 <andythenorth> I would hope google applies a grace period to 404s 20:25:09 <andythenorth> as many are just accidents 20:30:22 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 20:49:30 <TrueBrain> but I would have hoped you could invalidate them all 20:49:34 <TrueBrain> but you can only do it one by one :P 20:49:39 <TrueBrain> I am not going to do that for 10k pages :D 20:51:19 *** freenode has quit IRC 20:52:37 <andythenorth> NO 20:52:54 <andythenorth> don't do it TrueBrain! 20:53:05 <TrueBrain> I didn't :) 21:01:10 *** arikover has joined #openttd 21:17:26 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:17:02 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:40:41 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:48:48 *** cHawk- has quit IRC 22:49:37 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:50:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:50:19 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:52:30 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:55:09 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 22:55:20 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:03:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:38:59 *** arikover has quit IRC 23:45:20 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:49:18 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC