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00:24:11 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 00:25:53 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 00:27:43 <_dp_> glx, can this be a side effect of your pool change (train count)? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/142726408400011265/878029564297773056/unknown.png 00:28:31 <glx> hmm good question 02:27:16 *** glx has quit IRC 02:31:25 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:48:03 *** debdog has joined #openttd 02:51:24 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 04:00:06 *** tokai has joined #openttd 04:00:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 04:07:00 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 04:47:46 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 06:20:40 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 06:35:18 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth[m]: FIRS might need a water tower replacement for desert towns? https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=89245&p=1247594#p1247594 06:40:52 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 06:41:05 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 07:15:01 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 07:23:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #9416: Codechange: Simplify FormatString https://git.io/J0Atr 07:43:35 <peter1138> Well... 08:30:09 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 08:30:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 08:36:59 *** tokai has quit IRC 08:48:38 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 08:57:41 *** tokai has joined #openttd 08:57:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 09:04:40 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 09:23:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] lahirwisada opened issue #242: [id_ID] Translator access request https://git.io/J0A9o 09:24:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] lahirwisada closed issue #242: [id_ID] Translator access request https://git.io/J0A9o 09:25:33 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 09:25:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 09:30:46 *** nielsm has quit IRC 09:32:30 *** tokai has quit IRC 11:14:57 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 11:16:49 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 11:29:00 *** roadt_ has joined #openttd 11:34:44 *** roadt__ has quit IRC 11:52:10 *** esselfe has quit IRC 11:55:49 *** Etua has joined #openttd 11:58:34 *** esselfe has joined #openttd 12:18:06 *** Etua has quit IRC 12:23:04 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:23:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:43:26 *** tokai has joined #openttd 12:43:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 12:44:23 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:50:24 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 13:31:49 <Samu> my ais town manager code is clearly slow :( 13:32:46 <Samu> not slow in terms of heavy cpu usage, but slow like appearing to be idle, while it's iterating arrays 13:35:12 <Samu> the reason i rewrote townmanager code was to have it use less ops for saving 13:35:32 <Samu> but now it's clear it's biting me back 13:35:56 <Samu> becomes slow in actual non-saving tasks 13:38:54 <Samu> i need to re-think the town manager 13:39:27 <Samu> do i really need these many lists and arrays 13:39:45 <Samu> what can i do to make it simple, yet working 13:44:51 <Samu> i need ideas 13:45:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nchappe updated pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0uol 13:58:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nchappe commented on pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0ps4 14:26:58 *** Donk has joined #openttd 14:29:55 *** Donk has quit IRC 14:31:06 *** Donk has joined #openttd 14:32:54 *** Donk has joined #openttd 14:34:13 *** Donk has quit IRC 14:37:57 <Samu> removing functionality to make the AI faster! 14:38:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 14:40:38 <Samu> funny stuff microsoft smart screen says about openttd Editor 14:40:50 <LordAro> "openttd Editor" ? 14:41:14 <Samu> https://pastebin.com/raw/jumsiHvi 14:42:37 <LordAro> Portugese translation of "publisher" ? 14:42:43 <LordAro> +u 14:42:51 <Samu> yes 14:43:09 <Samu> smart screen still filters out openttd 14:43:26 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:43:37 <LordAro> mm, well we've done all we can 14:45:38 *** Donk has joined #openttd 14:50:01 *** Donk has quit IRC 14:51:00 *** Donk has joined #openttd 15:00:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0pX9 15:01:15 *** Strom has quit IRC 15:03:02 *** Strom has joined #openttd 15:10:30 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 15:10:58 *** roadt_ has quit IRC 15:20:44 *** roadt_ has joined #openttd 15:26:59 *** reldred has quit IRC 15:27:12 *** gregdek has quit IRC 15:31:12 *** gregdek has joined #openttd 15:31:16 *** reldred has joined #openttd 15:35:19 *** EER has quit IRC 16:16:03 <Samu> my canal builder stumbled upon an unexpected issue 16:16:19 <Samu> it's trying to build on a 1-bit road 16:16:43 <Samu> and is getting ERR_LOCAL_AUTHORITY_REFUSES 16:17:25 <Samu> rating in that town is Appalling 16:18:45 <Samu> normally, it would clear the town road and build the canal in its place 16:18:54 <Samu> just by overbuilding 16:29:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Matu7865 opened issue #9501: [Crash]: Crashes when Multiplayer Opened https://git.io/J0hmu 16:33:25 <LordAro> ooh, did TB break something? 16:34:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #9501: [Crash]: Crashes when Multiplayer Opened https://git.io/J0hmu 16:37:24 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 16:37:46 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 16:38:29 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 16:38:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 16:39:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nchappe updated pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0uol 16:41:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nchappe commented on pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0hGJ 16:44:52 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:45:20 *** tokai has quit IRC 16:53:31 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 17:00:28 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 17:05:48 <TrueBrain> LordAro: did I now cause that any network related crash is contributed to me? :p 17:16:47 <glx> I think it should also happen in beta1 17:26:08 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:26:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #9501: [Crash]: Crashes when Multiplayer Opened https://git.io/J0hmu 17:30:30 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 17:30:53 <glx> it's inside TCPConnecter so ;) 17:39:28 <Wolf01> Hmmm Factorio Peter version: 1.1.38 :P 17:43:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] agentw4b commented on issue #9501: [Crash]: Crashes when Multiplayer Opened https://git.io/J0hmu 17:48:55 <LordAro> TrueBrain: yes. 17:49:01 <LordAro> <3 17:49:16 <TrueBrain> :D 17:49:23 <TrueBrain> I have only myself to blame :p 17:49:49 <LordAro> yes! 17:49:57 <LordAro> now, when are you rewriting the content window? :p 17:50:18 <glx> but the crash seems quite random, I don't think I ever had it 17:50:20 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 17:51:14 <TrueBrain> LordAro: the day I am given a better way to design GUIs 17:51:19 <TrueBrain> :P 17:52:20 <TrueBrain> and ugh @ 9501 .. "my_client" is such a weird singleton 17:54:54 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 17:54:54 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 17:56:36 <TrueBrain> I -think- this happens if two servers are refreshing at the same time 17:58:10 <TrueBrain> yup 17:59:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #9501: [Crash]: Crashes when Multiplayer Opened https://git.io/J0hmu 17:59:51 <TrueBrain> I won't work on a solution tonight, so if anyone is interested, go at it :) 18:00:37 <TrueBrain> a possible solution could be to make a mini-ClientNetworkGameSocketHandler, that only deals with server-info 18:00:50 <TrueBrain> of which more than one can be pending 18:05:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Matu7865 commented on issue #9501: [Crash]: Crashes when Multiplayer Opened https://git.io/J0hmu 18:23:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0hPD 18:27:50 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:29:10 *** Flygon has quit IRC 18:36:43 <frosch123> https://github.com/OpenTTD/BaNaNaS/commit/d90a3a37e6c4ae82177de4b05e4fb77bc2dee83c <-hahaha 18:37:32 <TrueBrain> yeah .. worst part is, he asked first 18:37:34 <TrueBrain> I explained 18:37:36 <peter1138> Hmm, well, 12 is >= 1.12... 18:37:37 <TrueBrain> he still did it wrong :P 18:37:40 <TrueBrain> some people ... :D 18:43:37 <frosch123> ah, forums... never change :) 18:44:54 <frosch123> in the release topic, two people are "battling". one wants predefined settings presets/profiles, the other one claims you can achieve the same by maintaining multiple openttd.cfg 18:45:14 <TrueBrain> lolz 18:45:40 <TrueBrain> they are both right .. just the latter is a stupid way of presenting it to your users :D 18:45:41 * frosch123 is tempted to post that "settings profiles" were planned for openttd 2.0, which won't happen now 18:46:03 <TrueBrain> haha, the "2.0" part, indeed :D 18:46:57 <michi_cc> And of course the initial "complainer" talks about different computer users, so the "proper" solution would be to simply use Windows user profiles, but then it isn't OTTDs fault anymore, so where's the fun :P 18:49:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/J0hS8 18:49:58 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 19:05:07 <Wolf01> <frosch123> in the release topic, two people are "battling". one wants predefined settings presets/profiles, the other one claims you can achieve the same by maintaining multiple openttd.cfg <- time to split openttd.cfg again :P 19:06:29 <frosch123> i did not count the number of settings in the new files 19:06:55 <frosch123> no idea what their decay rate is, and when they are expected to split again 19:11:12 <andythenorth[m]> element has such bright colours :P 19:11:21 <andythenorth[m]> TrueBrain: is green! 19:11:34 <andythenorth[m]> frosch123 is turquoise! 19:11:36 <andythenorth[m]> where is Eddi|zuHause 19:11:59 <andythenorth[m]> lol that stupid forums thread 19:14:11 <Timberwolf> Oh dear. 19:14:31 <Timberwolf> You made me look at a particularly forumy forum thread, there should be some kind of forfeit for that. :p 19:15:43 <frosch123> there were only two people posting, didn't that say enough? 19:18:45 <andythenorth[m]> it's archetypal 19:19:02 <andythenorth[m]> the epitome of forums :) 19:19:12 <Timberwolf> I sometimes think there's a personality who'd see a crossing light go green and complain, "I was enjoying standing there without needing to walk, watching cars go past, can't it change back?" 19:20:51 <andythenorth[m]> there is a whole similar thread in a model train forum I read right now 19:20:59 <andythenorth[m]> "Bachmann have released a new train, it's unfair" 19:22:19 <frosch123> Timberwolf: there are traffic lights in germany, which are always red 19:22:26 <frosch123> red because no car is allowed to drive there 19:22:43 <frosch123> and present because law requires lights on all roads of a junction, or on none 19:22:56 <Timberwolf> I wonder how record collecting forums deal with this, where it's possible for a record label to reissue something that's been out of print for ages and then tank the value of any copies from the last time it was available. 19:24:48 <Timberwolf> Maybe people are more sanguine when the change has an actual quantifiable impact. 19:26:06 <frosch123> i read some musician recently got a tattoo and amented their testament to forbit any kind of posthumous releases 19:26:47 <Timberwolf> I'm obviously in one of those moods, someone linked one of my "OK so let's actually measure which of these stations has the best throughput" videos on Reddit and I'm less "yay, views" than I am, "damn it, this is going to be another round of 'why I'm so much smarter than you, which I will proceed to explain over the following paragraphs' comments, isn't it?" 19:28:17 <frosch123> sorry, i only watch rocket-gronkh 19:28:23 <Timberwolf> Heh. 19:28:59 <frosch123> it annoys me that rocket-gronkh has to follow bridge speed limits 19:29:15 <Timberwolf> tbf, I should just stick to complaining about logical inconsistencies in 1980s childrens television while making enormous signalling mistakes, that never seems to elicit "how I'm so smart" comments. 19:29:20 <Timberwolf> Can't think why. 19:29:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nchappe updated pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0uol 19:29:30 <Timberwolf> Also I should make some boats. 19:29:37 <Timberwolf> I was supposed to be doing that for quite a while. 19:30:34 <andythenorth[m]> I should some FIRS 19:31:15 <frosch123> i also received a private paket from uk. it was supposed to arrive 2 months ago, but the sender needed multiple attempts until it passed customs :p 19:31:20 <andythenorth[m]> hmm 19:31:32 <andythenorth[m]> frosch123: is it nice? or is it a glitter bomb? 19:31:45 * andythenorth[m] has run out of 'this player is bad' reports on the tank game 19:31:51 <andythenorth[m]> time for something else 19:32:07 <frosch123> do people send glitter bombs for customs to open? 19:32:13 <andythenorth[m]> dunno :) 19:32:16 <andythenorth[m]> intriguing idea 19:32:23 <andythenorth[m]> FIRS needs to trigger events for GS to handle 19:32:30 <andythenorth[m]> with some kind of arbitrary key/value payload 19:32:50 <andythenorth[m]> 'this industry produced glitter' 19:33:00 <andythenorth[m]> more realistically, 'this town has what it needs to grow' 19:36:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nchappe commented on pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0hpu 19:41:24 <andythenorth[m]> maybe some new operator that writes out name value pairs during arbitrary varact2 chains? :P 19:46:00 *** tokai has joined #openttd 19:46:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 19:46:36 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:52:50 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 19:54:33 <frosch123> i think yt has a new icon theme. something looks unusual 19:56:30 <andythenorth[m]> did they round everything? 19:56:59 <frosch123> i have no idea how they looked before :p 19:58:46 <frosch123> there are two types of software. those who change icons every 2 years for no apparent reason 19:59:04 <frosch123> and those who never change them, and use 20 year old icons, which definitely look dated 19:59:38 <frosch123> though icon size is the most noticeable thing for those 20:00:18 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 20:00:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 20:00:28 <frosch123> i guess recently icons are designed to work on both light and dark themes 20:01:31 <frosch123> though i still don't unterstand why dark themes became so popular suddenly 20:01:57 <frosch123> they have existed since forever to some extend 20:02:03 <frosch123> but now everyone wants them 20:04:46 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:07:15 *** tokai has quit IRC 20:09:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 20:14:47 <andythenorth[m]> "looks cooler" 20:21:27 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:30:01 <frosch123> TrueBrain: where would you look for "how to change strings in PRs, so eints is happy"? 20:30:16 <TrueBrain> PR template, bottom part :) 20:30:31 <frosch123> OpenTTD/docs/eints.md, Wiki:CodeStyle, Eints/README.md ? 20:30:47 <TrueBrain> either of the first two is fine by me 20:30:51 <TrueBrain> first might makes most sense 20:31:10 <frosch123> PR template can link it, sure. but i would write like 30 lines, so the text probably should not be in the PR template :p 20:31:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0jqB 20:37:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #9499: Fix 2f9c48b: [Linkgraph] Delete links served only by stopped or crashed vehicles https://git.io/J0uol 20:37:30 <TrueBrain> frosch123: lol, no :) 20:39:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:49:24 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 20:49:49 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 21:03:00 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:31:24 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 21:31:28 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 21:34:45 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 21:35:46 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 21:51:25 <peter1138> New Quake, eh? 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