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10:39:04 <Samu> along the axis of the rail? or across 10:46:10 <Samu> whatever... 11:04:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #9961: Fix 6fe445e: Removing rail station parts without ctrl pressed was also removing tracks https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9961 11:43:31 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 11:44:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 12:21:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 13:13:28 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:13:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 14:43:37 *** wallabra has quit IRC 14:47:26 *** wallabra has joined #openttd 15:29:35 *** Sario_ has joined #openttd 15:30:04 *** Sario_ has quit IRC 15:30:44 *** Sario has joined #openttd 16:11:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:21:54 <frosch123> "63 in progress, 2 skipped, 11 successful, and 1 pending checks" <- i guess there is no such thing as "too many PR checks" 16:36:55 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 16:37:43 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 16:50:09 <TrueBrain> what project are you working on? :P 16:54:01 <frosch123> pybind11 builds for like 3 dozen compilers and platforms 16:54:29 <frosch123> like 10 clang versions, exotic cuda stuff and who knows what 16:55:04 <frosch123> they have a nice bot though. it runs clang-format and black, and pushes the result to the PR 16:55:22 <TrueBrain> that ... is also an option :P 16:55:32 <TrueBrain> "We are done asking people to fix their coding style, we just do it for them!" 16:55:52 <frosch123> https://github.com/marketplace/pre-commit-ci 16:56:26 <TrueBrain> it is not the worst idea 16:56:35 <TrueBrain> having a clang-format for OpenTTD would also really help me :P 16:56:41 <TrueBrain> I am so lazy these days with Python and black 16:56:46 <TrueBrain> I just code .. I run black .. what-ever 17:25:51 <TrueBrain> somehow I am now expecting frosch123 to make a PR to add that pre-commit-ci to OpenTTD :P Including a clang-format that is "good enough" :P 17:25:57 <TrueBrain> just imagine how much less blabla that gives on PRs .... 17:31:39 <frosch123> i think most of our review blabla is about commit messages 17:31:43 <frosch123> and the bot does not fix those 17:31:55 <TrueBrain> I stopped commenting on that, and just fix it on squash 17:31:59 <TrueBrain> a lot more practical 17:32:09 <TrueBrain> on my own repos I have enabled that during squash the title of the PR wins 17:32:16 <TrueBrain> so I just fix the PR title to be what I want it to be 17:32:19 <TrueBrain> and fuck commit messages :P 17:32:39 <frosch123> but what about the 5 page monologues? 17:32:56 <TrueBrain> only when you and I write those, those are worth preserving :P 17:33:25 <frosch123> pff, i almost never write monologues 17:33:31 <frosch123> it's mostly truemonologues 17:33:32 <TrueBrain> I do, a lot :P 17:33:35 <TrueBrain> :D 17:33:42 <TrueBrain> you can't say my intentions aren't clear! 18:48:29 <TrueBrain> I was looking into porting TrueGRF-rs (the compiler) to C++ .. but C++ to WASM is still meh 18:48:41 <TrueBrain> Rust has all this infrastructure for it .. C++ .. "nah, you can do it yourself) 18:48:41 <TrueBrain> sad :P 18:49:13 <frosch123> carbon is the hype of the month 18:49:19 <TrueBrain> so I have read 18:49:53 <frosch123> so the "hype" part worked :) 18:49:57 <TrueBrain> yeah 18:50:18 <TrueBrain> Google ... one thing they know how to do :P 18:50:53 <TrueBrain> I love how it got announced as "What is TypeScript to JavaScript" 18:51:09 <TrueBrain> like .. wow .. don't be shy now 18:51:22 <frosch123> i wondered whether go is uncool now 18:52:29 <TrueBrain> I also like it said it is like what Kotlin is to Java 18:52:32 <TrueBrain> and I was like: wtf is Kotlin? 18:52:47 <TrueBrain> so we will see :) 18:52:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/b7462934e23683e31baf2f20250d1ad817c728a0 18:52:52 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 18:54:39 <frosch123> kotlin to jave is like c++11 to c++98 18:54:56 <TrueBrain> I don't do Java, but I never before read about Kotlin 18:55:00 <TrueBrain> which is funny to me :P 18:55:05 <frosch123> java is on the cobol/pl1 track now 18:55:29 <frosch123> hmm, good point, i do not do java either, still i heard about kotlin 18:56:14 <TrueBrain> must be my bubble :P 18:56:25 <TrueBrain> I do wonder if C++20 modules are going to give what is crates to Rust 18:56:35 <TrueBrain> it is so easy to "just install a crate" to get support for NNN in Rust 18:56:42 <TrueBrain> especially because of its trait system 18:57:00 <frosch123> i wonder whether modules become usable before 2030 :) 18:57:02 <TrueBrain> been designing embedded systems lately in Rust .. it was shocking how quickly I could get that working .. where in C++ it takes .. more effort :P 18:57:27 <TrueBrain> vcpkg is a nice start, but still too ... meh 18:57:47 <frosch123> modules are no package manger 18:58:05 <TrueBrain> I know 18:58:31 <frosch123> the c++ package manager which is most hyped, but is not big-corporation-backed like vcpkg, is conan 18:58:50 <frosch123> i never used conan, but there is at least one talk about it being cool at every cppcon 18:59:12 <frosch123> https://conan.io/ 18:59:29 <TrueBrain> euh ... I instantly dislike that site :P 18:59:37 <TrueBrain> I tried to search something, which took me a bit to find 18:59:42 <TrueBrain> and there are no matches 18:59:45 <TrueBrain> but .. it doesn't actually say that 19:00:19 <TrueBrain> those "fancy" pages, missing the idea of actually being functional :P 19:00:40 <TrueBrain> anyway, Rust crates are modules and package manager in one 19:00:53 <TrueBrain> what I like is that it is very easy to create one 19:01:00 <TrueBrain> without having to create endless headers and blablablabla 19:01:52 <TrueBrain> we will see where C++ ends up .. but it means no TrueGRF compiler in C++ for now :P 19:02:10 <frosch123> if you switch to python, you can use nml again :p 19:02:22 <TrueBrain> Python's WASM support is even worse 19:02:36 <TrueBrain> it is what I originally planned to use 19:02:51 <TrueBrain> but it is at least 4MB, as it just emscript-like compiles the Python interperter 19:03:23 <frosch123> hmm, i guess i missed it, but why do you want to stop using rust again? 19:03:27 <TrueBrain> in my original draft, TrueGRF used NML as backend, and TrueGRF just generated NML 19:03:29 <TrueBrain> but yeah ... 19:03:35 <TrueBrain> I don't want to stop using Rust 19:03:54 <TrueBrain> it is just that TrueGRF being in 2 languages none of you guys know how to write 19:04:03 <TrueBrain> doesn't help asking for help :P 19:04:06 <TrueBrain> (Rust and Svelte) 19:04:20 <frosch123> 3, you forgot "grf" :p 19:04:43 <TrueBrain> I said: none of you guys know :P 19:08:20 <frosch123> ok, so essentially you say: we should learn rust 19:08:27 <TrueBrain> that is the alternative :P 19:09:02 <frosch123> i don't think you can get anyone interested in js or gui frameworks though :p 19:09:23 <TrueBrain> I am afraid of the same :D 19:09:43 <TrueBrain> worst part about Rust, I am also not a Rust programmer .. so the project has some weird quirks :P 19:09:46 <TrueBrain> it is all shit, basically 19:09:57 <frosch123> i assumed copilot wrote most of it? 19:10:20 <TrueBrain> it helped finding syntax for sure, yes :) 19:14:59 <TrueBrain> owh well, maybe next week I find some time and energy to finally do stations :) 19:15:01 <TrueBrain> would be fun :) 19:24:24 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:24:44 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:52:45 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:03:33 *** Flygon has quit IRC 20:23:25 <Samu> omg, the estimate multiplier is such a saviour 20:23:37 <Samu> whoever came up with that is pure genius 20:26:47 <Samu> turns my otherwise slow as hell pf into a super fast pf 20:28:14 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:30:21 <Samu> a rail route with about 860 distance manhattan, with a path found in the same year it started! 20:30:30 <Samu> amazing 20:41:08 *** wallabra has quit IRC 21:07:30 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:26:23 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 21:31:27 *** wallabra has joined #openttd 21:39:37 *** wallabra has quit IRC 22:05:44 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:10:34 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:24:50 *** wallabra has joined #openttd