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01:06:53  <glx[d]> what kind of sprites are you adding Arastais ?
01:08:35  <Arastais> glx[d]: airport sprites
01:09:15  <Arastais> glx[d]: so I run renum on the temp version of the main `openttd.nfo`, not the inidiviual nfos?
01:09:46  <glx[d]> just let cmake do the work 🙂
01:10:52  <Arastais> glx[d]: oh, so I don't need to run renum at all as long as I use -1 for all sprite ids?
01:11:49  <glx[d]> exactly, but cmake needs to now where renum and grfcodec are (if in your path it should find them)
01:12:52  <glx[d]> else you can manually set the variables
01:14:36  <Arastais> i also see some inconsistency when it comes to the action length some acitons in the nfo files, even within the same nfo files: sometimes it says `0` (im assuming that means renum will take care of it) but otherwise it actually specifies the length. So what do I do? Do i need to specify the length of the action sometimes or can I always put 0?
01:16:25  <glx[d]> 0 works fine
01:16:50  <glx[d]> (renum is ran anyway)
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01:47:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114#issuecomment-1299444212
02:06:32  <glx[d]> hmm in #10114 preview, game option windows has some weird behaviour
02:07:33  <petern> Huh, default zoom is weird :/
02:08:18  <glx[d]> it becomes really wide when moving the slider, and I need to open/close in twice to get the normal window size
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02:12:51  <glx[d]> haha and I crashed the game
02:13:07  <glx[d]> just playing with the slider
02:13:08  <petern> Suspect the scale autodetection does not work.
02:13:14  <petern> I can't even see the slider.
02:13:48  <glx[d]> you can move the window 😉
02:14:18  <petern> It's wrong vertically.
02:14:36  <petern> `ScaleByZoom(100, _gui_zoom)` should be `ScaleGUITrad(100, _gui_zoom)` I bet.
02:14:52  <petern> Hmm, no it can't be because it's setting _gui_scale. Hah.
02:15:43  <glx[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1037188224134692964/unknown.png
02:15:43  <glx[d]> that's the window right after start
02:16:11  <petern> Yeah, that's 1) not right 2) not what I get 😄
02:16:42  <glx[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1037188475453177906/unknown.png
02:16:42  <glx[d]> then I just moved the slider to 2x
02:16:46  <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1037188490879844402/unknown.png
02:16:46  <petern> Is even less useful
02:17:52  <petern> Anyway, handling for -1 is wrong.
02:17:52  <glx[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1037188768488247356/unknown.png
02:17:52  <glx[d]> then moved the window, closed it, and reopen
02:18:22  <petern> Although when I set it to x2 it all pops back and works fine.
02:18:33  <glx[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1037188939611648040/unknown.png
02:18:33  <glx[d]> and finally closed and reopen
02:19:23  <glx[d]> might be related to the wasm build
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02:19:42  <glx[d]> didn't try a real binary
02:22:28  <petern> Initial zoom set up is too late, I think.
02:22:55  <glx[d]> but menu window seems to resize correctly when slider moves (it's just hidden behind weird option window)
02:25:12  <glx[d]> btw I like the non power of two scaling
02:27:24  <petern> Yeah automatic scale is not working (not even implemented) but I let the -1 scale as default, so it's all broken until a scale is set. Of course I've been testing for ages, always with a scale set, heh.
02:29:12  <petern> Awkwardness: InitFontCache() is called before a video driver is selected.
02:29:45  <petern> InitFontCache() needs the gui scale.
02:29:53  <glx[d]> then discarded and recalled after the selection ?
02:29:58  <petern> But gui scale needs the video driver, when it's set to automatic.
02:30:51  <petern> I guess it now needs to be reinitialized after selecting the blitter & video driver,.
02:33:41  <petern> Maybe just ClearFontCache is enough, that will reinit the size.
02:34:16  <petern> Hah, no 😦
02:38:22  <petern> (Also GetSuggestedUIZoom() can be updated to use non-powers-of-2 as well)
02:49:08  <petern> Right, Suggested scale should be 1 anyway.
02:49:19  <petern> 100% rather
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04:05:42  <Arastais> if a png has artic-specific sprites for everything, do I have to skip them in the nfo file, or can they just have their own SpriteID like everythig else?
05:27:22  <Arastais> 2) in the baseset folder (where all the individual nfo files are) Is it better to include the "pretty" png produced by decoding with grfcodec  or the original source png?
05:28:47  <Arastais> 3) once I've done everything and openttd.grf is good to go, do I have to do something special figure out the actual SpriteIDs of what I've added (especially in terms of relative ordering, so which nfo goes after another)?
05:31:26  <Arastais> 4) if I have multiple related pngs, should I make a single big nfo file for all of them, or an nfo file for each one? I would assume the latter as I see `airports.nfo` and `airport_preview.nfo` as an example.
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08:15:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] M3Henry opened pull request #10123: Feature: Display power-to-weight ratio in ground vehicle details GUI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10123
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08:40:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] M3Henry updated pull request #10123: Feature: Display power-to-weight ratio in ground vehicle details GUI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10123
09:13:59  * petern awaits recompile
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10:11:05  <petern> And again.
10:12:27  <pickpacket> sometimes I get the feeling that some of you work full time developing openttd
10:16:40  <petern> I'm on "staycation" this week.
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10:17:04  <petern> I am getting ready to go out on the MTB in a minute, though.
10:24:43  <petern> Or at least, once this change is working...
10:29:47  <petern> Eventually.
10:35:16  <andythenorth> how many subscriptions would we need to fund full-time dev? 😛
10:35:27  <andythenorth> oh but then we have to build what the players demand?
10:40:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114
10:41:12  <reldred> andythenorth: No no, just what I demand
10:41:30  <reldred> Andy draw me some rocks
10:41:38  <andythenorth> amount contributed => number of votes?
10:41:38  <reldred> *shakes fist*
10:42:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114#issuecomment-1300019163
10:43:45  <petern> Should work in preview now, when it finishes.
10:43:48  <petern> Time to ride!
12:21:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114#issuecomment-1300273216
12:24:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114#pullrequestreview-1161943373
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13:01:32  <petern> Hah, still out on ride, mustn't look!
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14:02:55  <pickpacket> andythenorth: is there a way to subscribe?
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14:34:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] hallonsoda79 commented on pull request #10112: Fix #10023: Allow negative input in text fields when needed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10112#issuecomment-1300542428
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15:37:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #10121: Codechange: rename and move strings to make them more consistent https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10121
15:41:38  <Eddi|zuHause> reldred: you should have tride "sudo andy draw me some rocks"
15:43:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #10121: Codechange: rename and move strings to make them more consistent https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10121#pullrequestreview-1165531750
15:46:00  <LordAro> andy draw rocks like one of your french girls
15:53:08  * petern rebasing
15:57:00  <petern> Then I need to pop out again as I've run out of protein and drinks
15:57:19  <petern> Oh shit I still need to clean the bike and put it away.
15:57:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #10123: Feature: Display power-to-weight ratio in ground vehicle details GUI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10123#pullrequestreview-1165499840
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16:03:03  <petern> TallTyler: Getting that value for unbuilt articulated parts is probably painful
16:03:43  <TallTyler> Callback hell?
16:07:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114
16:08:34  <petern> Oopsie 😦
16:08:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114
16:35:53  <petern> wasm still wtf :/
16:49:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #10112: Fix #10023: Allow negative input in text fields when needed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10112#pullrequestreview-1165651174
16:56:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114
16:57:50  <petern> check the Rect/RectPadding helpers I think.
16:58:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #10121: Codechange: rename and move strings to make them more consistent https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10121
17:03:47  <Rubidium> sorry peter
17:14:11  <petern> So, er, how to debug wasm? 😦
17:14:36  <petern> I guess I should check Linux builds.
17:36:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] M3Henry commented on pull request #10123: Feature: Display power-to-weight ratio in ground vehicle details GUI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10123#pullrequestreview-1165729929
17:38:59  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] M3Henry updated pull request #10123: Feature: Display power-to-weight ratio in ground vehicle details GUI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10123
17:50:27  <petern> Works fine on Debian 10...
17:53:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] M3Henry updated pull request #10123: Feature: Display power-to-weight ratio in ground vehicle details GUI https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10123
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18:54:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/71663bbaee26fc508eb22bd2cbb719df20bf6f30
18:54:01  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:12:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124
19:25:06  <petern> Beer o'clock?
19:32:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301117141
19:39:47  <andythenorth> petern: Yes
19:40:14  <petern> > MUST be happy working with Bootstrap
19:40:15  <petern> Phew, that's me out 😉
19:41:01  <petern> (I don't really hate it, just its verboseness frustrates me.)
19:45:21  <andythenorth> you read Twitter 😛
19:45:23  <andythenorth> lol
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19:48:43  <frosch> 8$ to submit a suggestion?
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19:54:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #10112: Fix #10023: Allow negative input in text fields when needed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10112
19:54:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc closed issue #10023: [Bug]: "Autorenew when vehicle is X months after max age" text input does not accept negative numbers https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10023
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20:15:59  <blathijs> Anyone here ever notice how much the Seinfeld soundtrack (at least the first season that I'm watching now) sounds pretty much the same as the TTD soundtrack? :-)
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21:24:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301296226
21:28:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301304902
21:31:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301311719
21:33:22  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #10114: Feature: Variable interface scaling https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10114#pullrequestreview-1166012032
21:35:19  <andythenorth> was cat?
21:35:22  <andythenorth> variable cat scaling
21:48:10  <Eddi|zuHause> do cats sit on bevels?
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21:58:08  <andythenorth> only chunky ones
22:08:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301382904
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22:15:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301398555
22:19:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301409028
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22:34:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301441383
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23:11:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LC-Zorg commented on pull request #10124: Change: Don't show vehicle reliability when breakdowns disabled https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10124#issuecomment-1301478915
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