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00:08:31 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has left the game (leaving) 00:08:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:36:01 *** Razmir has left #openttdcoop.stable 00:51:07 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 00:59:23 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 01:06:37 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 08:42:12 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 08:43:01 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined company #3 08:43:01 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 08:56:23 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 08:56:23 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:55:39 <planetmaker> !rcon unban 78.129.202.38 09:55:40 <Stablean> planetmaker: IP not in ban-list. 10:06:38 <planetmaker> !rcon unban Nite 10:06:39 <Stablean> planetmaker: IP not in ban-list. 10:07:51 <planetmaker> !rcon ban 10:07:51 <Stablean> planetmaker: - Ban a client from a network game. Usage: 'ban <ip | client-id>' 10:07:51 <Stablean> planetmaker: - For client-id's, see the command 'clients' 10:07:51 <Stablean> planetmaker: - If the client is no longer online, you can still ban his/her IP 10:07:57 <planetmaker> !rcon ban_list 10:07:57 <Stablean> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 10:08:18 <planetmaker> !rcon banlist 10:08:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: Banlist: 10:08:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: 1) 89.105.130.218 10:08:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: 2) 90.183.119.49 10:08:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: 3) 92.9.190.58 10:08:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: 4) 93.181.217.202 10:08:19 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 21 more messages 10:08:26 <planetmaker> !more 10:08:26 <Stablean> planetmaker: 5) 189.72.93.114 10:08:26 <Stablean> planetmaker: 6) 98.249.4.140 10:08:26 <Stablean> planetmaker: 7) 93.220.53.21 10:08:26 <Stablean> planetmaker: 8) 92.248.175.103 10:08:26 <Stablean> planetmaker: 9) 88.254.127.38 10:08:27 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 16 more messages 10:08:29 <planetmaker> !more 10:08:29 <Stablean> planetmaker: 10) 83.5.139.223 10:08:29 <Stablean> planetmaker: 11) 83.41.165.119 10:08:29 <Stablean> planetmaker: 12) 88.229.129.96 10:08:31 <Stablean> planetmaker: 13) 78.166.14.181 10:08:31 <Stablean> planetmaker: 14) 85.110.35.* 10:08:33 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 11 more messages 10:08:35 <planetmaker> !more 10:08:35 <Stablean> planetmaker: 15) 88.254.123.10 10:08:35 <Stablean> planetmaker: 16) 80.30.49.228 10:08:35 <Stablean> planetmaker: 17) 81.210.169.57 10:08:37 <Stablean> planetmaker: 18) 85.104.154.190 10:08:37 <Stablean> planetmaker: 19) 86.23.*.* 10:08:39 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 6 more messages 10:08:57 <planetmaker> !rcon unban 78.129.202.38 10:08:57 <Stablean> planetmaker: IP not in ban-list. 10:09:37 <planetmaker> !more 10:09:37 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have no more messages 10:12:40 <planetmaker> !rcon unban 84.114.177.252 10:12:40 <Stablean> planetmaker: IP unbanned. 10:15:27 <Stablean> *** Nite joined the game 10:22:51 *** Nite_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:23:16 <Nite_> Hi 10:26:28 *** Nite_ has quit IRC 10:30:28 *** Nite_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:38:15 <Stablean> <Nite> will have a go here after a restart maybee 10:38:42 *** Nite_ has left #openttdcoop.stable 10:48:25 <Stablean> *** Nite has left the game (connection lost) 10:49:31 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:17:35 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 11:21:50 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:23:55 <Stablean> *** Speedy has started a new company (#6) 11:23:57 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:39:18 <Ammler> !content 11:39:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Connection established 11:39:21 <Stablean> Ammler: Downloading 5 file(s) (584965 bytes) 11:39:21 <Stablean> Ammler: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 11:54:09 <Stablean> *** andythenorth joined the game 11:57:42 <Stablean> * andythenorth thinks it was worth putting complete snow support into forests:) 11:57:54 <Stablean> <andythenorth> e.g. Prafingfield 11:59:50 <Stablean> *** andythenorth has left the game (connection lost) 12:00:36 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 12:14:43 <Stablean> <Amm1er> he, build one industry for Shiva, and the graph looks better ;-) 12:20:09 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 12:26:37 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:26:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:32:05 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 12:32:20 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I built now 3 industries 12:32:30 <Stablean> <Amm1er> for 3 different companies :-) 12:32:57 <Stablean> <Amm1er> income graph says thanks :-) 12:33:03 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> ty ammler for refinery 12:33:10 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 12:36:04 <Stablean> <Amm1er> DayDreamer: nice refit system :-) 12:36:08 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> :) 12:36:19 <Stablean> <Amm1er> is the refit for free? 12:36:33 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> no .. but it cost very low 12:36:59 <Stablean> <Amm1er> do you mind, if I join your comp for a sec? 12:37:05 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> suer 12:37:05 <Stablean> <Amm1er> won't build anything 12:37:12 <Ammler> !players 12:37:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 98 (Green) is Speedy, in company 6 (Wenfinghill Transport) 12:37:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 104 (Pink) is Amm1er, in company 5 (Free Transport) 12:37:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 107 (Red) is DayDreamer, in company 1 (Space Technology) 12:37:17 <Ammler> !companies 12:37:19 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 1 (Red): Space Technology 12:37:19 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 2 (Orange): V453000 Transport 12:37:19 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 3 (Blue): Vinnie Transport 12:37:19 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 4 (White): Ediz Transport 12:37:19 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 5 (Pink): Free Transport 12:37:21 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 6 (Green): Wenfinghill Transport 12:37:42 <Ammler> !rcon move 104 1 12:37:42 <Stablean> Ammler: *** Amm1er has joined company #1 12:37:51 <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, just moved in :-) 12:37:57 <Stablean> <Amm1er> thx 12:38:03 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> :) yw 12:38:37 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I see, the costs didn't show up as I were on the other company 12:39:55 <Stablean> <Amm1er> it wa a nice riddle for the 3 missing industries to find out, which industry is needed 12:40:02 <Stablean> <Amm1er> your were the easiest :-P 12:41:09 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> exactly :P 12:41:41 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hardest was the industry for V 12:42:24 <Stablean> <Amm1er> so, stomack calls 12:42:45 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 12:42:57 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> but he don't have refit trains :P 13:17:12 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:17:13 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi 13:17:15 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 13:19:35 <Stablean> <V453000> I am getting the feeling like all games with firs are the same 13:19:38 <Stablean> <V453000> oil and metal 13:19:40 <Stablean> <V453000> all the time 13:20:19 <Stablean> <V453000> which is even less variety than the original industries :( 13:21:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:22:03 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> i dontlike agriculture, so im focused to heavyindustries .. 13:22:18 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> like a oil, wood, metal, alumijnium 13:22:39 <V453000> well, yea, it just seems all the same to me :) 13:22:52 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 13:23:13 <DayDreamer> sever down? 13:23:16 <DayDreamer> server 13:23:26 <DayDreamer> !players 13:23:28 <Stablean> DayDreamer: Client 98 (Green) is Speedy, in company 6 (Wenfinghill Transport) 13:23:29 <Stablean> DayDreamer: Client 110 (Red) is DayDreamer, in company 1 (Space Technology) 13:23:45 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 13:24:01 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 13:27:01 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 13:28:51 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 13:29:09 *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:29:10 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 13:31:54 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 13:32:45 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<Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 14:29:24 *** DayDreamer1 has quit IRC 14:29:52 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 14:31:43 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:32:18 <Ammler> !players 14:32:20 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 122 (Pink) is Ediz, in company 5 (Free Transport) 14:32:40 <Ammler> Ediz, could you check, if there are any parameters set for firs? 14:34:34 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 14:35:01 <V453000> 0 0 2 14:35:08 <V453000> secondaries can die 14:35:32 <V453000> I know, its bork, just wanted to see if we can see some more issues 14:35:45 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 14:37:12 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 14:37:13 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:43:52 <Stablean> <Amm1er> DayDreamer: you like firs? 14:44:46 <Stablean> <Amm1er> why has green no trains? 14:46:36 <Stablean> <Amm1er> no fish ship 14:46:54 <Stablean> <Ediz> what 14:47:04 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> i love firs :) 14:47:11 <Stablean> <Ediz> milk 14:47:35 <Stablean> <Ediz> ohh 14:47:53 <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, zeppelins are expensive 14:48:03 <Stablean> <Amm1er> how to fish? 14:48:07 <Stablean> <Ediz> 3. 14:48:13 <Stablean> <Ediz> thirt 14:48:31 <Stablean> <Ediz> train 14:48:37 <Stablean> <Ediz> problem 14:48:45 <Stablean> <Amm1er> a train can't swim, can it? 14:48:55 <Stablean> <Amm1er> is there a hoover train? 14:49:09 <Stablean> <Ediz> train old 14:49:16 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-) 14:49:50 <Stablean> <Ediz> :-D 14:50:16 <Stablean> <Ediz> how are you 14:50:51 <Stablean> <Ediz> refenery 14:50:53 <Stablean> <Ediz> :D 14:59:48 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined spectators 15:25:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:26:08 <andythenorth> can you change parameters on a running mp game? 15:26:27 <andythenorth> I recommend turning off FIRS secondary industry closure - there is a nasty bug :o 15:27:26 <V453000> yes, we just tried to find some more problems 15:29:59 <andythenorth> find anything else? 15:31:04 <V453000> no 15:31:53 <Stablean> *** andythenorth joined the game 15:32:05 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.stable 15:34:06 <Stablean> *** andythenorth has left the game (leaving) 15:51:34 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 15:56:06 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:56:14 <Stablean> <V453000> lo 15:59:25 <Stablean> <V453000> too soon for a reset, I suppose (?) 15:59:45 <Stablean> <Ediz> v4530000 hello 16:00:01 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 16:00:31 <Stablean> <Ediz> transport 16:33:06 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 16:39:08 <Stablean> *** Ediz has left the game (connection lost) 16:55:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 #1 joined the game 16:55:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 #1 has left the game (leaving) 16:55:43 <Stablean> <V453000> lol im here already 16:56:02 <V453000> !content 16:56:02 <Stablean> V453000: Connection established 16:56:04 <Stablean> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 16:56:04 <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 16:56:06 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop.stable 16:56:06 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:56:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 16:56:08 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> :D 16:56:08 <V453000> !content 16:56:10 <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered! 16:56:12 <Stablean> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 16:56:12 <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 16:56:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:56:33 <Stablean> <V453000> maah 16:56:33 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 16:56:33 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 16:56:49 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:56:56 <V453000> !restart 16:56:56 <Stablean> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 16:57:00 <V453000> oh there is a new newgrf 16:57:01 <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 16:57:01 <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.0.5. 16:57:05 <V453000> needs restarting :) 16:57:05 <Stablean> Server has exited 16:57:05 *** Stablean has quit IRC 16:57:25 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:57:25 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 16:57:25 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 16:57:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 16:57:29 <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-) 16:57:35 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 16:57:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 16:57:42 <V453000> hmf 16:57:49 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:57:55 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (leaving) 16:59:42 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:59:43 <Stablean> *** Mates joined the game 17:00:21 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 17:00:38 <Stablean> <V453000> Y 17:00:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:00:46 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 1 17:00:46 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 17:00:47 <V453000> !auto 17:00:47 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 17:00:49 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:01:17 <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 20 17:02:48 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 17:08:28 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has started a new company (#1) 17:08:28 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:31:11 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 17:31:13 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:31:57 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:32:00 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 17:41:32 <Stablean> *** Ediz joined the game 17:43:10 <Stablean> *** Ediz has started a new company (#2) 17:52:04 <Stablean> *** Ediz has left the game (leaving) 18:00:15 <Stablean> *** ManiaMuse8 joined the game 18:51:40 <Stablean> *** Venos joined the game 20:44:51 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:44:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 20:50:32 <Stablean> *** Ogre joined the game 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<Stablean> *** Kejhic has left the game (leaving) 22:54:20 <Stablean> *** BigKsoda joined the game 22:54:48 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> anyone around that can take a question? 22:56:17 <V453000> dont ask to ask 22:56:19 <V453000> just ask 22:56:54 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> ok sidelines how long before the sideline is too long 22:57:40 <V453000> well ... that cant be really defined 22:57:55 <V453000> as long as it works in the particular case 22:57:58 <V453000> it is fine 22:58:00 <V453000> I guess 23:00:22 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> ok let me paint a scenario , your just playing on some random server chatting and develping the map, you know you won't get to connect everything and you just want to put together a clean network and some nice stations how many sideline stations would you want to be able to service on a single sideline before you commited to the work? 23:01:19 <V453000> I think that cant be answered simply 23:01:39 <V453000> if you want, you can make SLs strong, and expect even LL_RR or more on them 23:01:50 <V453000> or not, then of course you need to haul less there 23:02:13 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> i don't think you can get that much of the map to yourself on a multiplayer server that isn't coop 23:02:23 <V453000> I guess 23:02:24 <Ammler> I would rather make a second SL than a LL_RR SL 23:02:38 <V453000> Ammler: it is better in most cases 23:03:05 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> it is more interesting i think 23:03:38 <Ammler> well, if you make "double SL", you need also a hub like a BBH 23:03:45 <V453000> kind of :) 23:06:21 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> my aim is really just to make a mainstation and not waste the thing , get enough trains going into it to make it busy. 23:06:39 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> and to have the network to do it 23:06:53 <V453000> on which server? 23:09:06 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 23:09:13 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> not on your coop servers lol 23:09:56 <Stablean> <V453000> I noticed that .. 23:12:35 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> hummm... maybe what I need to think of is how many stations I need to make a hub busy 23:13:09 <Stablean> <V453000> my advice would be to just play and see 23:13:11 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> because that would be sort of a sideline size limiter 23:13:13 <Stablean> <V453000> but meh 23:15:45 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> do you guys know any sort of data that could help a guy determine how many trains it will take to tax a certain amount of network? 23:16:03 <Stablean> <V453000> theoretically you could count it 23:16:11 <Stablean> <V453000> but I dont really see any point in that 23:16:29 <Stablean> <V453000> we usually expect it from our experience 23:16:39 <Stablean> <V453000> just play and see 23:18:10 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> awe there has to be some way to size up a situation and build something to fit the bill though 23:18:49 <Stablean> <V453000> you fear a lot of expanding, do you 23:20:44 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> hummm.... 23:21:47 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> what about second main lines how far off from the first main line do you have to be before its better to build a new main line? 23:22:01 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 23:22:11 <Stablean> <V453000> first and second main lines? 23:24:09 <Stablean> <BigKsoda> i'll just get out of here 23:24:12 <Stablean> *** BigKsoda has left the game (leaving) 23:24:16 <Stablean> <V453000> :D wtf.. 23:29:02 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (leaving) 23:29:24 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 23:34:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:34:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:58:10 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)