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00:03:00 *** Cameron has joined #openttdcoop.stable 00:03:11 <Cameron> What is up? 00:03:25 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> yo 00:03:53 <Cameron> hey Meechy 00:04:37 <BiG_MeEcH> :) 00:06:52 <Cameron> wish I could play Ottd 00:07:04 <BiG_MeEcH> why can't you ? 00:07:32 <Cameron> mom's computer, and she'd freak if I put this on it 00:07:44 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> well its not malware xD 00:07:52 <Cameron> i know but still 00:09:13 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> tell your mom its educational and you learn about railroads 00:09:33 <Cameron> HAHa, yea good luck 00:09:44 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> tell her you want to be a Railroad Engeneer 00:10:51 <Cameron> I do, but still that ain't gonna work 00:11:01 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> lol 00:11:07 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> are you amish ? :) 00:11:24 <Cameron> no, Im Canadian 00:11:27 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> xD 00:12:54 <BiG_MeEcH> Tell her you want to ride the Canadian National railway to toronto 00:13:01 <BiG_MeEcH> but you need to play ottd first 00:14:14 <Cameron> LOL 00:14:40 <BiG_MeEcH> I may as well be canadian 00:14:47 <BiG_MeEcH> Ive been watching a lot of Degrassi 00:18:23 <Cameron> lovely here minus the snow, but wth 00:18:44 <Cameron> rather live in the Gobi Desert 00:18:51 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I wanna do some 5 pin bowling 00:58:35 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:00:36 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 01:01:02 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> yo 01:01:04 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (processing map took too long) 01:01:04 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 01:01:10 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> looks like sylf :P 01:01:16 <BiG_MeEcH> damn 01:01:24 <BiG_MeEcH> I heard that there were connection issues around the world 01:01:30 <Sylf> hm 01:01:31 <BiG_MeEcH> Ddos attacks 01:01:45 <BiG_MeEcH> want me to pause it? 01:01:51 <Sylf> I saw that my packets were not routed the normal way last night 01:01:54 <Sylf> nope 01:02:01 <BiG_MeEcH> weird! 01:02:07 <BiG_MeEcH> I hate lost packages 01:02:29 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 01:02:38 <Stablean> <Sylf> this is just bleh. 01:03:37 <Stablean> <Sylf> so, we're specializing in bauxite 01:03:43 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I guess xD 01:04:17 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> they turned off boats and added boat multiplier so I can't be captain meech 01:04:47 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> shame I dont know Jam's password 01:05:58 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I was aboe to do the transfer train you showed me yesterday 01:06:01 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> at great Farnway south 01:07:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> :o 01:07:51 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I know 01:07:51 <Stablean> <Sylf> Jam transport on sale 01:08:13 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> could scrap for more than 2$ 01:08:51 <Stablean> <Sylf> UKRS2 isn't the best set to run a 1TL game 01:09:05 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> doesnt look like he tried too hard anyhow 01:09:29 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> wanna buy it then? 01:09:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> I skip it 01:09:46 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> im temped to hit yes 01:11:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> so, I want to boost our alumi production 01:11:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> I want to get chemicals 01:11:29 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> so oil ? 01:11:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> We have two options. 01:11:35 <Stablean> <Sylf> Do we want to do oil? 01:11:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> Or do we want to do Coal and Stones? 01:11:47 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> do we have the ES for oil ? 01:12:17 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> enough oil around our lines 01:12:20 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> not sure about the coal 01:12:31 <Cameron> hi sylf 01:12:50 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> re-yo 01:12:52 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi cam 01:13:22 <Stablean> <Sylf> there are enough quarries and dredging sites and coal mines and oil wells 01:13:26 <Stablean> <Sylf> we can do anything we want. 01:13:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> We can do all of them. 01:13:44 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> build both palnts side by side? 01:14:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> We could do that. 01:14:18 <Stablean> <Sylf> since people are hardly building, we can take as much space as we want 01:14:32 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> :D 01:14:34 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> hell yeah 01:15:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> once we have all those going on... do we want to build furniture? or brew? 01:15:35 <Stablean> <Sylf> or print money? 01:15:59 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> BEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR 01:23:46 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> D: 01:25:53 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> sorry D: 01:26:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, that line isn't ready yet 01:27:31 <Stablean> <Sylf> ok, there we go 01:27:45 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I think it only needs 4 bays 01:29:27 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> hopefully chemicals railcars unload in 3-4 turns :D 01:29:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> dunno. 01:30:09 <Stablean> <Sylf> we may have to find another spot for an aluminum plant 01:30:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> there isn't much space to expand around there. 01:30:25 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I think thats a good possibility 01:30:31 <Stablean> <Sylf> Or, swap pickup and drop 01:30:55 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> theres ample room on that one plateau area 01:31:10 <Stablean> <Sylf> there's ample room on the entire map 01:31:14 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> pickup could stay there almost 01:33:42 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 01:33:42 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 01:33:46 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm not the only one! 01:33:53 <BiG_MeEcH> poor roM! :( 01:34:06 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 01:34:06 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 01:34:29 <Cameron> i remember those days... 01:34:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm 01:35:01 <Stablean> <Sylf> we need to decide if we're gonna keep CL2 or not 01:35:27 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> i think it should be fixed now that we got cash 01:41:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> time for experiment... 01:41:34 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> ooo 01:41:46 <Stablean> <Sylf> train 65... 01:42:16 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> lol 01:42:22 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> 5 turns 01:42:53 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> only 8 more tons of bauxite 01:42:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> but more capacity 01:43:07 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> 28 mroe tons I mean 01:43:10 <Stablean> <Sylf> 28 more tons 01:43:20 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's 28% increase 01:43:26 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> would need 6 lanes at the plant 01:43:34 <Stablean> <Sylf> never 01:43:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> well, actually 01:43:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> It's not that simple of a math 01:44:04 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> well these trains accelleration is shit 01:44:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> heavier = slower accel. 01:44:30 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> yoiu keep experimenting, ill back ina a few 01:44:36 <Stablean> *** Bauxite_Meech has joined spectators 01:44:41 <Stablean> <Sylf> I need food soon :P 01:45:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm, these wagons are pretty heavy 01:45:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's a bummer. 01:53:33 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined spectators 01:53:33 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:22:19 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:22:19 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 02:23:20 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #6 02:23:20 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 02:32:03 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:32:34 *** kuch3n is now known as Guest453 02:33:33 <Stablean> *** ytr191 joined the game 02:33:35 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined spectators 02:33:35 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:34:47 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 02:35:19 <Stablean> *** ytr191 has left the game (leaving) 02:39:02 *** Guest357 has quit IRC 02:48:03 *** Cameron has quit IRC 02:55:45 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout) 02:55:45 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 03:12:33 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (processing map took too long) 03:12:33 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 03:12:33 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:14:39 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (processing map took too long) 03:14:39 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 03:14:39 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:25:11 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> heck yea, Big Meech is back 03:25:22 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> oh man 03:25:29 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> bauxite Sylf is gone! 03:25:51 <Stablean> *** Bauxite_Meech has joined company #5 03:25:51 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:26:19 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> did train 65 work out ? 03:27:09 <Stablean> *** Beerbelott joined the game 03:27:17 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> yo 03:28:15 <Stablean> *** Beerbelott has left the game (leaving) 03:38:59 <Sylf> I deleted 65 03:39:07 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> okay 03:39:14 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> too long to unload? 03:40:07 <Sylf> loading time isn't an issue 03:40:43 <Sylf> the sum of wagon weight and cargo weight was a bit big 03:40:53 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> oh nice 03:40:59 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> well my name is Big Meech 03:41:01 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> double engines? :D 03:41:22 <Sylf> then it defeats the purpose of using that wagon 03:41:30 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> :D 03:41:32 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> kk 03:41:47 <Sylf> anyway. reboot time. 03:41:52 <Sylf> bios flash 03:42:00 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> whoa, be careful 03:50:04 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 03:51:21 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #5 03:51:28 <BiG_MeEcH> Nice 03:51:36 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> asus mobo ez-flash ? 03:51:54 <Stablean> <Sylf> something close 03:52:02 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> :D 03:52:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> it's an asus utility 03:53:02 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I just got done working on a nice asus rig for sale 03:53:36 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> dual dvi outpits on mobo plus E65XX something processor 03:54:42 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm 03:54:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> there's not an easy way to get 84 crates of ES on 2 tiles 03:56:04 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> what about timetabling a shitty truck 03:57:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm more frustrated with the fact that wagons like Habfis van or Freightliner, at 3 half tiles, will only load 81 crates 03:57:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> 3 crates short! >_< 03:57:35 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> lol 03:59:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> ok, train 67 it is 04:04:40 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> hard cramming a station into this bauxite mine xD 04:04:54 <Stablean> <Sylf> pft 04:05:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> watch this 04:05:14 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> * watchez 04:05:28 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> oh nice 04:05:38 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> you cheated :P 04:07:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> huh... 04:07:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> no DWE platform tiles... 04:09:02 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> lol 04:09:02 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> wtf? 04:09:04 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> xD 04:09:07 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> interesting 04:09:37 <Stablean> <Sylf> gotta try something new once in a while 04:09:41 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> word 04:09:47 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> flashing bios' 04:09:49 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> then that 04:09:51 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> :D 04:11:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm, I like that engine 04:23:01 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> reaplce ing wagons? 04:23:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> yup. 04:26:14 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> can you make an ES train for Tredham north / Es Transfer ? 04:26:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> 1 sec 04:26:36 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> yep 04:27:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> can you upgrade bauxite trains to look like trains 75/76? 04:27:24 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> oh golly 04:27:28 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> any easy way to do that? 04:27:38 <Stablean> <Sylf> none. 04:27:40 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> hey l liked those bumpers :P 04:27:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> but CHIPS tiles have built-in bumpers already 04:28:05 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> xD 04:28:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> dinky brit style bumpers 04:28:27 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> train would go right throug hthem 04:28:58 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> ill let you do the orders 04:29:36 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> i need to brish my teeth ill brb 04:33:18 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> how good are the new wagons you did ? 04:33:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> it's good 04:35:03 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> 2.7 tl ? 04:47:14 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> you messing up shit? 04:47:20 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> :) 04:47:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> totally 04:47:27 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> sweet 04:53:57 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> train 2 ? 04:54:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> Just playing around. 04:54:30 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> kk 04:54:33 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> I was worried xD 04:55:03 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> i think theyre all doen except the 1 station 04:55:37 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 04:55:41 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> hi Diablo 04:55:47 <Stablean> <Diablo> hi meech 04:56:02 <Stablean> <Diablo> wats with the name change? 04:56:16 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #6 04:56:16 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> We're a bauxite company primarily so far 04:56:56 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> Same ol' meech 04:57:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> my shit at alumi plant is already breaking 04:57:32 <Stablean> <Sylf> gonna cause a massive jam for a min 04:57:38 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> yay 04:58:28 <Stablean> <Diablo> wat do u guys think of my multi-millon $ PAX? 05:01:08 <Stablean> <Sylf> ok, massive jam done. 05:01:34 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> cleverly placed iron ore mine 05:02:22 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> sure know how to make the bauxite pile up boss 05:02:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah. 05:02:43 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> thats what bosses do 05:06:10 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> hell yea 05:08:24 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> wow Diablo went higher than happy transport 05:13:50 <Stablean> <Bauxite_Meech> way to break shit 05:28:37 <Stablean> <Diablo> i want to get into the freight side, but hav no idea how to produce engineering supplies 05:30:10 <BiG_MeEcH> few ways to do it 05:30:46 <Stablean> *** Bauxite_Meech has left the game (general timeout) 05:30:46 <Stablean> *** Bauxite_Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:31:50 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 05:33:51 <Stablean> <Big Meech> smithy forge also makes them I think 05:33:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> the Engeneering supplies 05:34:12 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #5 05:34:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> does any of thast help Diablo? 05:35:03 <Stablean> <Diablo> it wud if i cud find the industries round our networks :/ 05:35:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ill help you look 05:35:31 <Stablean> <Diablo> thx :) 05:36:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> steel mill could make metal 05:36:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> steel mill at flinningstone-on-sea 05:36:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> at !diablo 05:37:22 <Stablean> <Diablo> then the metal goes where? 05:37:28 <Stablean> <Sylf> hot damn. done with ll_rr 05:37:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> metal to machine shop or forge 05:38:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> doesnt look like ther are any in your area =\ 05:38:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> or at my other !diablo sign 05:38:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> aluminum plant takes bauxite and scrap metal to make metal 05:39:17 <Stablean> <Diablo> lumber = engineering 05:40:07 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lumber plus chemicals make enengeering supplies 05:40:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> at my last !diablo sign 05:40:45 <Stablean> <Diablo> thx for the help meech 05:40:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> tried to help :) 05:40:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> np 05:49:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> we're letting all of our FS go to waste! 05:50:05 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 05:50:13 <Stablean> <Sylf> start making beer 05:50:15 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined spectators 05:50:27 *** BiG_MeEcH has quit IRC 05:50:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hell yeah 05:52:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> looks like we will need fruit and grain 05:52:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe tomorrow I will be Vodka Meech 05:52:39 <Stablean> <Sylf> hell yeah 05:54:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:54:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> wait... vodka is the potatoL 05:54:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> we need potato farms? 05:54:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> then Wine Meech 06:00:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> is it bad i dont know where i put my cellphone? xD 06:08:25 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout) 06:08:25 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 06:19:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no I dont, sorry 06:19:20 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I just found my cellphone! I put it in the oddest spot 06:19:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> did you still want /need help bud? 06:19:52 <Stablean> <Diablo> was it on a table? 06:20:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> on a window sill 06:20:16 <Stablean> <Big Meech> the second sash on the top 06:20:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> im super tired though bud, its 2:30am here almost 06:20:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> and im abotu to crash 06:21:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I tell you what though, when i get a chance tomorrow i will log in and finsih your LR 06:21:02 <Stablean> <Diablo> all good, but can u plz finish my routes nxt time ur on? 06:21:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, you just want the other lane? 06:21:48 <Stablean> <Diablo> thats the job 06:21:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure, I can try 06:22:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Where are you in the world again ? :) 06:22:18 <Stablean> <Diablo> yellow, close to purple 06:22:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> In real life :) 06:22:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> nz right? 06:22:43 <Stablean> <Diablo> correct 06:22:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> must be daytime there 06:23:07 <Stablean> <Diablo> 725pm 06:23:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh later than I thought 06:23:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> but yea, tomorrow i will try to get to your lines 06:23:59 <Stablean> <Diablo> thanks, cya tmrw 06:24:02 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined spectators 06:24:02 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:24:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yep! seeya 06:24:10 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 07:22:23 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 07:22:28 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:40:10 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 08:18:31 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:13:27 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:13:28 <Stablean> *** hlavarna joined the game 09:15:33 <Stablean> *** hlavarna has left the game (leaving) 09:37:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:50:43 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:50:46 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 09:51:30 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 09:51:30 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:48:38 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 10:48:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy 10:48:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi troy 10:48:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 10:49:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good, you? 10:49:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 10:49:34 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #1 10:52:48 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:52:52 <Stablean> <V453000> helo 10:52:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 10:52:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 10:54:11 <Stablean> <V453000> :d I thought UKRS2 cared more about cargoes 10:54:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what do you mean? 10:54:31 <Stablean> <V453000> bauxite is gray just like most of hopper cargoes :( 10:54:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh 10:55:12 <Stablean> <V453000> quite honestly I dont understand that :) 10:55:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> isn't bauxite gray? 10:55:49 <Stablean> <V453000> it is something like red to brown thing 10:55:59 <Stablean> <V453000> you can see on the current CHIPS platforms it is pink 10:56:06 <Stablean> <V453000> which will be changed a bit soon, but still 10:56:16 <Stablean> <V453000> point is 10:56:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, kay 10:56:33 <Stablean> <V453000> recolouring an already drawn cargo is like the most time-gain efficient thing to do 10:56:52 <Stablean> <V453000> you obviously have to code it as well but that is quick 10:57:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, perhaps the drawer thought bauxite = aluminium = gray 10:57:21 <Stablean> <V453000> no it works the same way as UKRS 10:57:39 <Stablean> <V453000> black = coal, brown = iron ore, yellow = grain, gray = everything else 10:57:51 <Stablean> <V453000> UKRS does that too 10:57:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, okay 10:58:32 <Stablean> <V453000> I mean I understand that NUTS is the only set which does it to have exactly every cargo different, but now that I know how simple it is to add that, I dont understand it :s 10:58:41 <Stablean> <V453000> when I look how many engines are there drawn in UKRS2 10:58:58 <Stablean> <V453000> it is surprising that wagons are "missing" this thingy 10:59:00 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 10:59:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that must drive you mad 10:59:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Player, you might want to change your name first 10:59:24 <Stablean> <V453000> well I dont really care since I have NUTS, but I find it really weird 10:59:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> click enter to type 11:00:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> type !name <newname> to change your name 11:00:40 <Stablean> <V453000> I believe you could find similar "strange preferences" on NUTS as well, for example many rail trains could use some improvements ... but that is just a detail which doesnt quite have a function I think :d while colours are great 11:01:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so that brought you here? 11:02:17 <Stablean> <V453000> ? :d 11:02:27 <Stablean> <V453000> is there anything that needs to bring me here? :d 11:02:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> saying that aluminium should be pink 11:02:31 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #7 11:02:43 <Stablean> <V453000> I just noticed it 11:02:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Player, you are going to get kicked 11:03:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think... 11:03:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> isn't Mazurs script working anymore? 11:03:46 <Stablean> <V453000> nop 11:03:52 <Stablean> <V453000> he isnt in IRC so it cant work :d 11:04:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okidoki 11:04:04 <Stablean> <V453000> it worked through his client 11:04:10 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 11:21:35 <Stablean> <V453000> he, now I see 11:21:50 <Stablean> <V453000> last discussion about cargoes in general resulted in a rant which cargo should have which colour :D 11:22:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah 11:22:18 <Stablean> <V453000> which alone is not exactly constructive, but it is a good start 11:22:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so no consent has been made about that 11:22:34 <Stablean> <V453000> there was some conclusion but I dont think anybody uses it 11:23:04 <Stablean> <V453000> after all, the exact colours of course matter a lot, but equally to that is important which colour do you use where and how 11:23:35 <Stablean> <V453000> drawing a convertable thing is one of the harder things tbh 11:23:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but if people don't stick to' the plan', the plan is useless 11:24:07 <Stablean> <V453000> this was only a general discussion, not about a particular set 11:24:21 <Stablean> <V453000> but often the discussions on tt-forums are related between each other 11:25:15 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think the problem is that one set does not support cargoes or whatnot 11:25:41 <Stablean> <V453000> problem generally is that every station/industry/train set uses different look for the cargoes and it is hard to make them compatible 11:25:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 11:25:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have a question 11:26:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> do industries grow here in FIRS 11:26:18 <Stablean> <V453000> I assume as described, when they get supplies 11:26:25 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think there is a parameter to disable growth anymore 11:26:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cause only production can be normal/enhanced/gung ho 11:26:33 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 11:26:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and that is under influence of engy supplies 11:26:47 <Stablean> <V453000> yep 11:26:57 <Stablean> <V453000> it does grow but only x2 or x4 11:27:00 <Stablean> <V453000> or what is the amount 11:27:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but does the base rate grow? 11:27:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah 2x and 4x 11:27:22 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 11:27:26 <Stablean> <V453000> this looks seriously broken actually 11:27:56 <Stablean> <V453000> or 11:27:58 <Stablean> <V453000> :d 11:28:00 <Stablean> <V453000> idk 11:28:10 <Stablean> <V453000> oil wells with x2 and 330 000 per month look ok 11:28:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :O 11:28:39 <Stablean> <V453000> quite honestly I dont really enjoy playing with FIRS too much and there were quite a few changes lately 11:28:49 <Stablean> <V453000> so I dont really know too much, havent played it myself 11:29:52 <Stablean> <V453000> it could be randomized base with x2 or x4 I guess 11:30:02 <Stablean> <V453000> but if that is true, dont know 11:30:37 <Stablean> <V453000> there are some changes all the time and I even think there will be a few more industries actually 11:30:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even more? 11:31:02 <Stablean> <V453000> just like one extra mine/secondary 11:31:08 <Stablean> <V453000> not like a huge amount 11:31:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fine, okay 11:32:06 <Stablean> <V453000> idk, I am thinking what could make an industry set fun 11:32:22 <Stablean> <V453000> because supplying mechanisms are really, really dangerous for the system I think 11:32:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which system? 11:32:46 <Stablean> <V453000> plus, the original growth mechanism is imo stil lbest 11:32:52 <Stablean> <V453000> the general system of the industry set 11:33:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, it's nice to have some feedback loops 11:33:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> imo 11:33:36 <Stablean> <V453000> I guess 11:33:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only there's no actual negative feedback, only positive 11:33:53 <Stablean> <V453000> the problem is 11:34:07 <Stablean> <V453000> in a form like this, you have an exact ratio of cargo:produced ES 11:34:25 <Stablean> <V453000> when produced cargo is dependent on produced ES then it is just math 11:34:31 <Stablean> <V453000> as you have to make the ratios good enough 11:34:49 <Stablean> <V453000> but then stupid elements like station ratings influence that really a lot 11:35:16 <Stablean> <V453000> I am thinking of something like temporary production boost from the supplies 11:35:39 <Stablean> <V453000> but the base production being independent of any supplies 11:35:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> like a real short burst? 11:35:51 <Stablean> <V453000> means you dont have to, but can be greatly helpful 11:36:17 <Stablean> <V453000> well yeah, short but over time like of 1 month 11:36:24 <Stablean> <V453000> meaning you need regular service 11:36:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah 11:36:42 <Stablean> <V453000> if you have drop-instant pickup, it solves nothing as refit can do that 11:36:58 <Stablean> <V453000> if you have drop - produce for a month, you have to deal with it somehow 11:37:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> FIRS worked with a month period earlier, right? 11:37:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> now it's 3 months 11:37:18 <Stablean> <V453000> pretty much 11:37:24 <Stablean> <V453000> but that is something different 11:37:30 <Stablean> <V453000> the production changed based on that 11:37:40 <Stablean> <V453000> I would just process the supplies into extra produced cargo 11:37:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> right 11:37:57 <Stablean> <V453000> but the long term production would stay 11:37:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and how much more cargo? 11:38:10 <Stablean> <V453000> dunno that isnt exactly important 11:38:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a percentage of current production? 11:38:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, guess that's true 11:38:22 <Stablean> <V453000> no, that should be based on teh amount of delivered 11:38:54 <Stablean> <V453000> point is, if you supply your already barely serviced industry, it is likely you wont be able to transport from there anymore, ther will be cargo left over 11:39:08 <Stablean> <V453000> which means the production should probably drop 11:39:24 <Stablean> <V453000> which is what happens also normally, but exaggerated 11:39:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so, what do you suggest? 11:39:48 <Stablean> <V453000> for FIRS probably nothing 11:39:58 <Stablean> <V453000> will try in a new industry set sometime 11:40:42 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 11:40:45 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 11:40:51 <Stablean> <V453000> I already wrote some article about a somewhat scheme, I would just make that scheme, with normal productions like everywhere else in original 11:40:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 11:40:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 11:40:56 <Stablean> <V453000> hello 11:41:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, 11:41:33 <Stablean> <V453000> but it has been a while I dont even know what is in that article exactly 11:43:51 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 11:44:11 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 11:47:04 <Stablean> <V453000> hm, dont know :d just collecting ideas, lets see if anything ever comes out of it... I thin it will but it will take time :) Either way, I have to go... thanks for the discussion 11:47:10 <Stablean> <V453000> bai 11:47:12 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:48:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye 11:51:08 <Stablean> *** dirace has left the game (processing map took too long) 11:51:09 <Stablean> *** dirace has left the game (connection lost) 12:38:49 <Stablean> *** dirace has left the game (processing map took too long) 12:38:49 <Stablean> *** dirace has left the game (connection lost) 12:38:53 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 12:38:53 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:02:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back later 13:02:36 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 13:07:07 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:07:10 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 13:09:54 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:12:42 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 13:12:43 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:23:27 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#3) 13:37:47 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 13:46:17 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 13:54:47 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:08:00 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 14:11:50 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:12:27 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 14:12:29 <Stablean> <V453000> asdf hel0 14:12:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb 14:23:38 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 14:23:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb 14:23:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 14:23:56 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #1 14:24:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 14:31:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, it's nice 14:33:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb 15:09:09 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 15:17:21 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 15:17:22 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:29:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:29:19 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:29:20 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:29:23 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 16:29:23 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:29:27 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #4 16:29:27 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:36:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi player 16:39:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 17:27:32 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 17:29:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi jam 17:31:30 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 17:39:04 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 17:53:07 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:53:25 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (leaving) 17:53:53 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #6 17:59:36 *** chester_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:11:33 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 18:13:38 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 18:13:38 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 18:44:01 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 18:48:37 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 19:09:58 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 19:10:33 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #6 19:26:40 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:26:40 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:27:08 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:27:08 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:27:35 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:27:35 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:28:10 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:28:10 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:28:36 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:28:36 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:28:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:28:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:30:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:30:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:30:57 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 19:31:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sorry! 19:31:07 <Stablean> <Diablo> hey meech 19:31:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo! 19:31:20 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I did one of the lines for you came back to finish now actually 19:31:44 <Stablean> <Diablo> i kno, u made a mistake nder a bridge 19:31:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh man 19:32:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> >_< 19:32:30 <Stablean> <Diablo> its all good now tho 19:34:53 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #6 19:44:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 19:45:07 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 19:45:08 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo 19:45:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> heelo 19:45:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Jam you went bankrupt last night 19:45:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> yay again? :D 19:46:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yup 19:46:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> horses arent so good :D 19:46:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> good in a sandwich 19:46:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hell yeah 19:47:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> or on a sandwich whatever your preference 19:47:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I prefer open faced horse sandwich 19:47:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> mmm 19:47:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> extra face 19:47:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hold the eyeballs 19:48:40 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 19:52:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Diablo, I know you like tunnels but later in the game when you need more trains per line, they will hurt the lines 19:52:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> usually going around objects is better imo. 19:52:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if you look at the lines I workded on, I got rid of tunnels and bridges for the most part 19:55:32 <Stablean> <Diablo> do lumber yards die fast? 19:56:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> be back later 20:01:26 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:12:36 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 20:37:36 *** chester_ has quit IRC 21:01:05 <Stablean> <V453000> ho 21:01:05 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 21:02:09 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:05:33 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (general timeout) 21:05:33 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 21:05:33 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:07:08 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:28:06 *** BiG_MeEcH has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:50:21 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:50:22 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 21:50:49 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #6 21:50:49 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 22:08:22 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 22:08:23 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:15:24 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:15:25 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 23:40:04 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:40:06 <Stablean> *** nimm joined the game 23:40:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 23:40:43 <Stablean> <nimm> hey 23:40:57 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:41:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi player 23:48:01 <Stablean> *** nimm has left the game (leaving) 23:48:13 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)