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00:00:47 <valhallasw> 116GWh per hour 00:00:51 <valhallasw> who thought of that? :+ 00:01:09 <Bjarni> nobody will admit to have added me to qdb.us??? 00:01:18 <Bjarni> dammit, then I will kick all of you 00:01:28 * valhallasw blames Darkvater 00:02:13 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/?search=Bjarni <--- so far I think I do ok 00:03:37 * valhallasw doesnt feel sorry for Bjarni 00:03:38 <valhallasw> at all 00:03:47 <Bjarni> why? 00:04:08 <Bjarni> why would you feel sorry for me? 00:04:29 <Bjarni> I say something and as a result some women starts to talk about sexuality... their sexuality 00:05:09 *** Prof_Fri1k [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 00:05:35 <valhallasw> http://bash.org/?428656 <-- hmmmm 00:05:35 <Bjarni> the turnoff could be that it's regarding vibrators and not directly me :/ 00:06:03 <valhallasw> http://www.google.com/search?hs=yWL&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&q=%22valhalla%7Csw%22+OR+valhallasw+site%3Aquotes.negotiator.nl&btnG=Search :( 00:06:24 <Bjarni> I'm more like "do normal girls have that stuff?" 00:06:49 <valhallasw> :+ 00:06:53 <valhallasw> they do. 00:07:26 <XeryusTC> valhallasw: you're on tweakirc? 00:07:34 <valhallasw> t.net, yes 00:07:51 <XeryusTC> heh, i'm on tweakirc :) 00:07:52 <Bjarni> ... 00:08:04 <valhallasw> #bikkels :( 00:08:09 <valhallasw> #bickels >> #bikkels ;P 00:08:11 <XeryusTC> http://quotes.negotiator.nl/channel/bikkels 00:08:12 <Bjarni> I would not go into one of those sex shops 00:08:16 <XeryusTC> #bickels are lamers 00:08:20 <Bjarni> it's for perverts only 00:08:25 * valhallasw slaps XeryusTC 00:08:33 <valhallasw> you're purple! 00:08:42 <Bjarni> no I'm not 00:08:53 <XeryusTC> bikkels know what "gezelligheid" means :P 00:09:01 <XeryusTC> #bickels is just dead :P 00:09:06 <valhallasw> hmmyes 00:09:13 <valhallasw> it is a bit 00:09:17 <valhallasw> after oxi got mad :p 00:09:32 <Bjarni> yeah 00:09:33 <valhallasw> http://quotes.negotiator.nl/5133 heh 00:09:34 <Bjarni> it's madness 00:09:56 *** alastair [n=agh@220-244-72-6.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:10:19 <Bjarni> wtf 00:10:30 <Bjarni> I just clicked random on bash.org and got 00:10:31 <Bjarni> (Mutiny) I'm talking to my mom online and she just said "i could use a good vibrator. i know you dont want to hear that but a woman has needs" 00:10:37 <Bjarni> ... 00:11:24 <valhallasw> O_o 00:11:30 <valhallasw> it's your aura Bjarni 00:12:03 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 00:12:20 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D652.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:12:20 *** dp_ is now known as dp-- 00:12:51 <Bjarni> this means that there are a lot of females out there with needs 00:13:02 <valhallasw> "I hate discrete mathematics" "Does that come in a white envelope?" 00:13:10 * Bjarni wonders where "out there" is in real life 00:13:27 * XeryusTC hands Bjarni a fake rl 00:13:45 <Bjarni> is that like a fake ID card? 00:14:07 * valhallasw notes it is getting late 00:14:14 <valhallasw> judging by the quality of jokes :p 00:14:29 <XeryusTC> valhallasw: it's never too late for beer, it's only too early for that :P 00:14:32 <Bjarni> what jokes? 00:14:43 * XeryusTC is getting lame 00:14:48 *** alastair [n=agh@220-244-72-6.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:15:01 <valhallasw> it's the fake alastair again \o/ 00:15:01 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-5360.bb.online.no] has quit ["Que?"] 00:15:07 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Looks like OptusNet's screwed again :("] 00:15:16 <XeryusTC> all hail the alastair :bow: 00:15:24 <valhallasw> Hail, brave friend! 00:16:37 <alastair> greetings all and thank you 00:16:40 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:16:40 *** Prof_Fri1k is now known as Prof_Frink 00:17:13 <Bjarni> wtf is a alastair anyway? 00:17:18 <Bjarni> *an 00:19:09 <XeryusTC> some thingy that hangs around here :) 00:20:13 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallazzzw 00:20:14 <valhallazzzw> :w 00:20:24 <valhallazzzw> 01:14 [freenode] -!- Mode change [-e] for user valhallasw 00:20:25 <XeryusTC> :w 00:20:25 <valhallazzzw> tsk 00:20:45 <XeryusTC> trusten! 00:21:07 <valhallazzzw> gn 00:21:55 <Bjarni> <Neo> I woke up the other morning at 4:00 am to find some woman banging on my door. I was like, WTF?.... So I got up, and let her out. 00:22:08 <Bjarni> what is happening to our sane world? 00:22:42 <XeryusTC> hmm, he should have fucked her :P 00:23:06 <Noldo> hohoho fuck hohoho 00:23:28 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:24:09 <Bjarni> how did she end up there in hte first place? 00:24:23 <XeryusTC> teleportation 00:24:38 <Bjarni> thief 00:24:43 <Bjarni> on drugs 00:24:52 <Bjarni> unable to open a door o_O 00:25:12 <XeryusTC> my cat cant open a door too, and she isn't on drugs... 00:25:59 <Bjarni> oh 00:26:07 <Bjarni> forgot about the moron option 00:26:20 <Eddi|zuHause> but your cat aint hammering on the door either ;) 00:26:42 <XeryusTC> true, but she does make noise 00:27:08 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bed 00:27:24 <Xeryus|bed> i'm really too drunk for irc :P 00:27:29 <Bjarni> <@wickedsun> I dont know the difference between games and reality anymore 00:27:29 <Bjarni> <@wickedsun> I jsut used a shotgun on my mother and she's not respawning 00:27:31 <Bjarni> o_O 00:27:50 <Bjarni> Xeryus|bed: don't IRC and drink 00:27:50 <Xeryus|bed> omfg 00:28:02 <Uatec> lol 00:28:02 <Xeryus|bed> Bjarni: i was dancing and drinking 00:28:09 <Bjarni> lol? 00:28:18 <Uatec> yes, lol 00:28:20 <Uatec> i think it's funny 00:28:29 <Bjarni> Uatec: you want to use a shotgun to see if people respawn? 00:28:45 <Bjarni> other people would call that murder 00:28:56 <Xeryus|bed> its just experimenting 00:29:11 <Xeryus|bed> you can get subsidy for killing :) 00:29:22 <Bjarni> that's what the Nazis did. People don't seem to like that 00:29:51 <Xeryus|bed> Bjarni: in the nazi's time they didn't care, 60 year later they do 00:29:57 <Xeryus|bed> to late to change it though 00:30:35 <Noldo> Xeryus|bed: who's they? 00:31:01 <Bjarni> we talk about their insane experiments, but since they were not repeated since, they gave us a lot of info about the human body 00:31:18 <Bjarni> for instance how long a person can survive in water of different temperatures 00:31:32 <Xeryus|bed> Noldo: they is the people in the 40s 00:31:39 <Bjarni> they use that when somebody falls overboard from a ship. After a while they give up since the person can't survive that long 00:31:40 <Xeryus|bed> is=are 00:31:49 <Noldo> Xeryus|bed: people where? 00:32:01 <Xeryus|bed> germany mostly 00:32:12 * Bjarni detects that Xeryus|bed is drunk IRCing 00:32:29 <Xeryus|bed> Bjarni: true 00:32:31 <Xeryus|bed> !stats 00:32:37 <Noldo> I quite sure that very many people started caring the moment they heard what had happened 00:33:15 <Noldo> but the holocaust always reminds a story about Otto and Hanz that my history teatcher used to tell 00:33:16 <Xeryus|bed> the first time they did i guess, but after the 4th/5th time they didn't care anymore 00:33:43 <ln-> what 4th/5th time? 00:33:57 <ln-> who they? 00:33:58 <Xeryus|bed> they heard about the "experimenting" 00:34:01 <Noldo> ln-: same kind of thing as "pari-kolme" 00:34:09 * Xeryus|bed <-- 00:35:06 <ln-> you are claiming that all those interesting experiments were reported to average citizens around the Reich? 00:35:16 <ln-> was that so? 00:37:42 <Bjarni> I didn't say that 00:37:56 <ln-> i didn't say you did 00:38:00 <Bjarni> in fact they were told a lot of things 00:38:05 <Bjarni> but not the truth 00:40:03 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7C8CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/"] 00:40:31 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?48370 <--- heh 00:41:18 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?65677 <-- ROFL 00:41:30 <Bjarni> windows should be blamed for this one 00:41:49 <Bjarni> but odds are that it would have crashed before being up that long 00:43:13 <ThePizzaKing> I've just realised my computer hasn't blue scrren of deathed me again yet 00:43:35 <ThePizzaKing> I must be better at fixing computers than I thought ;) 00:54:24 <Bjarni> then fix mine 00:55:02 <Bjarni> died today... freezes somewhere between the bios screen and searching for valid start disks 00:55:10 <Bjarni> see if you can fix that :p 00:56:22 <Bjarni> this is why I hate x86 based hardware: it always fails 00:56:28 <Bjarni> at least for me 00:56:34 * Prof_Frink fixes it with a sledge. 00:56:42 <Bjarni> it's like add a PPC and then everything just works 00:56:43 <coppercore> and Mac is much bettter? 00:56:48 <coppercore> ... 00:57:15 <coppercore> too bad PPC is way overpriced 00:57:44 <Bjarni> I saw a comparison between Dell and Mac prices yesterday 00:58:02 <coppercore> ha 00:58:04 <coppercore> hahahahahhaahaha 00:58:06 <coppercore> wow 00:58:07 <Bjarni> mac was cheaper when you compared computers with similar speed 00:58:18 <coppercore> but not much runs on a mac 00:58:31 <Bjarni> well 00:58:41 <Bjarni> OpenTTD runs on mac, which is good enough for me 01:02:25 *** disavowed [n=disavowe@213.121.151.142] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 01:11:17 <ln-> is there some interesting platform that ottd doesn't run on yet? 01:11:30 <Eddi|zuHause> my toaster 01:11:31 <tefad> yourmom 01:11:45 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, yours beats mine ;) 01:11:54 <tefad> Bjarni: have you tried linux-ppc? 01:12:03 <tefad> i have such a box next to me, but i've not installed X onto it yet. 01:15:01 <Uatec> i have a box next to me, but it's just made of cardboard 01:15:24 <Uatec> it's on the psp which i'm happy about 01:15:34 <Uatec> i can even put my PC save games on to my PSP and back 01:17:39 <Diablo-D3> http://shadowconflict.blogspot.com/2006/03/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future.html 01:18:16 *** s[away]g_ [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has joined #OpenTTD 01:24:43 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:26:16 *** Uatec [n=a3168443@128.240.229.5] has quit ["leaving"] 01:28:34 <Bjarni> <tefad> Bjarni: have you tried linux-ppc? <--- yeah, but it was years ago 01:28:51 <Bjarni> 1998 or 1999 01:29:06 <Bjarni> really crappy distribution. 01:29:46 <Bjarni> I was unable to get stuff like sound, LAN, modem and stuff like that to work 01:29:46 <Diablo-D3> why not just use ubuntu? 01:30:05 <Bjarni> so I deleted it again 01:30:16 *** s[away]g [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:30:31 <Bjarni> Diablo-D3: simple... how was the PPC ubuntu in 1998? 01:30:34 <Bjarni> ;) 01:30:44 <Diablo-D3> Bjarni: it was great, actually 01:30:56 <Bjarni> well, I didn't know it 01:31:04 * Diablo-D3 hides the time machine 01:31:09 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 01:31:29 <Bjarni> also I didn't fancy downloading too much with my way too expensive 28.8 modem 01:31:39 <Bjarni> anyway it's late 01:31:41 *** stefan__ is now known as stefan 01:31:42 <Bjarni> goodnight 01:31:49 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@83.92.162.96] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:35:52 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-02-1e-f6-09-41.k607.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 01:41:36 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CC8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:48:56 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-199-48.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22"] 01:50:08 *** Spoco 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08:51:20 <Hendikins> evening 08:51:26 <Hendikins> anyone up for a game? 08:51:56 <KUDr> gm 08:51:58 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B82DC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:52:08 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82DC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:53:35 <peter1138> genetically modified game? 08:55:58 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:57:15 <Tron> peter1138: ping 08:59:36 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54945CC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:04:03 <Hendikins> So, nobody up for a game? 09:06:49 *** irCuBiC [n=ircubic@ti231210a080-12150.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:33:10 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Reason: My sister broke the router"] 09:35:20 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:35:23 *** RoySmeding_ 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what im trying do do 10:37:37 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 10:39:31 <Xappu> i get a error 10:39:48 <Xappu> when i tried to intall a newgrf 10:40:18 <Xappu> custom .grf has invalid format.... 10:42:20 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@85.165.220.193] has quit ["edgepro: There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on."] 10:44:08 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:44:36 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-02-1e-f6-09-41.k607.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:46:41 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-02-1e-f6-09-41.k607.webspeed.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 10:46:58 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-02-1e-f6-09-41.k607.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:49:26 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:52:01 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-7361.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 10:54:33 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:55:39 <CIA-5> tron * r3764 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Add a function to get the RoadBits from an arbitrary tile 12:32:10 *** lc [n=lc@gazoduc.tekila.org] has joined #openttd 12:34:57 <CIA-5> tron * r3767 /trunk/ (depot.h direction.h npf.c rail.c rail.h ship_cmd.c tile.h): Move all direction related enums and functions to a separate header 12:38:53 <CIA-5> tron * r3768 /branch/tfc_newmap/ (27 files in 3 dirs): [tfc_newmap] Bring stuff a bit closer to trunk, especially wrt roads 12:50:02 <KUDr> trunk\cur\direction.h(33) : error C2440: 'return' : cannot convert from 'int' to 'DiagDirection' 12:50:03 <KUDr> 1> Conversion to enumeration type requires an explicit cast (static_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast) 12:50:19 <KUDr> only this one error 12:50:56 <Tron> that's a C++ error, not C 12:51:16 <KUDr> its included as extern "C" 12:51:26 <KUDr> but MSVC still complains 12:51:41 <KUDr> don't know why 12:51:43 <Tron> extern "C" is just for name mangling 12:52:05 <KUDr> but if from cpp file i need to include such header 12:52:15 <KUDr> how else can i do it? 12:53:24 <Tron> short answer? you don't 12:53:31 <KUDr> hmm 12:54:13 <KUDr> but gcc/g++ doesn't complain 12:54:23 <KUDr> its just MSVC 12:54:24 <CIA-5> tron * r3769 /trunk/direction.h: Add a cast to make KUDr's C++ compiler happy 12:54:36 <KUDr> many thanks! 13:05:43 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:29 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:13:03 *** qball is now known as Qball 13:15:07 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176104017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:22:14 <Qball> KUDr: http://spooky-possum.org/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/forever.html 13:22:16 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7D5F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:32 <KUDr> Qball: it's invalid 13:23:40 <KUDr> also the code is invalid 13:23:50 <Tron> #33850 0x080a5ebd in GetAnyRoadBits (tile=23682) at road_map.c:15 13:23:56 <KUDr> specialization for n=1 is missing 13:24:01 <Tron> does anybody see any problesms with this line? 13:24:05 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-a.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:24:16 <Qball> KUDr: just saw it :D 13:24:24 <Qball> had to think of you, seeing it 13:24:30 <KUDr> Tron: missing rail_map.c in the project 13:24:54 <Tron> i don't do windows 13:24:55 <Qball> KUDr: how is pbs coming along? 13:24:59 <KUDr> Qball: yes, i saw lot of such ... 13:25:04 <Tron> i won't fiddle with config files i can't test 13:25:28 <KUDr> hmm 13:25:42 <KUDr> it works for me on linux and windows too 13:25:43 <Qball> KUDr: the cross compiler issues with c++ are solved nowadays? that's kinda why I stopped 13:26:11 <KUDr> Qball: afaik yes 13:26:14 <Tron> <Tron> #33850 0x080a5ebd in GetAnyRoadBits (tile=23682) at road_map.c:15 <-- nobody sees the problem? 13:26:41 <KUDr> Tron: what i must do to repro it? 13:26:50 <Tron> it's stack frame number 33850 ^^ 13:26:58 <Tron> KUDr: repro what? 13:27:14 <Qball> reproduce 13:27:16 <KUDr> Tron: this problem you are seeing 13:27:51 <Tron> simple, create and endless recursion and wait for the program to bail out with SIGBUS, which will happen faster than you blink 13:28:04 <Tron> s/and/an/ 13:29:08 <KUDr> hmm, how can i create recursion? 13:29:14 <KUDr> in the game? 13:29:20 <KUDr> or code? 13:29:24 <Tron> void f(void) { f(); } 13:29:34 <Tron> #65341 0x080fba5b in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfbfe8b4) at unix.c:481 13:29:39 <Tron> not bad, that's the last one 13:29:51 <Tron> 65342 stack frames is a lot 13:29:54 <KUDr> heh 13:30:22 <KUDr> on windows it tells: 'stack overflow' 13:36:57 <ln-> KUDr: what kind of experience or education do you exactly have about programming? 13:37:13 <KUDr> hehe 13:37:19 <KUDr> master degree 13:37:25 <KUDr> why? 13:37:39 <ln-> not knowing about recursion is surprising. 13:37:44 <KUDr> +25 years 13:38:11 <KUDr> i understood that i must do some recursion in the game to see such error 13:38:28 <KUDr> i thought it is a bug in new code in svnn 13:38:31 <Qball> ln-: is as suble as ever 13:39:07 <KUDr> ln-: cant be so smart as you are 13:39:16 <KUDr> coz u r the best one 13:39:55 <Xappu> can someone explain to me what i do with .diff file when installing newgrf? 13:40:08 <Xappu> in openttd 13:41:06 <KUDr> ln-: here is you opportunity! 13:41:08 <KUDr> explain! 13:42:19 <ln-> i wasn't saying i'm smart. i'm actually quite stupid and clueless. 13:42:44 <KUDr> same as we all 13:42:52 <Xappu> well can someone explain now? 13:43:06 <KUDr> Xappu we all are stupid 13:43:26 <KUDr> Xappu: what OS? 13:43:31 <Xappu> xp sp2 13:43:49 <KUDr> then install tortoiseSVN 13:43:58 <Xappu> where i get that? 13:44:07 <KUDr> checkout from trunk 13:44:12 <KUDr> apply diff 13:44:14 <KUDr> recompile 13:44:22 <Xappu> trunk? 13:44:26 <KUDr> this i do usually with diffs 13:44:51 <KUDr> svn://svn.openttd.com/trunk 13:44:54 <glx> .diff are nrmally useless with newgrf 13:45:04 <Tron> Xappu: diffs have exactly no relation to NewGRF 13:45:05 <Xappu> well i need it now 13:45:26 <Xappu> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21827 13:46:01 <glx> oh it's not newgrf it's yellow signal 13:46:08 <Xappu> doh :) 13:46:32 <KUDr> yes, then ask somebody on that forum to send you .exe 13:46:36 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.240.19.77] has joined #openttd 13:46:44 <Tron> a diff file is a text file which contains source code changes 13:47:02 *** Singaporekid is now known as Sinagporekid 13:47:03 <Xappu> hmm ok 13:47:13 <Xappu> well can anyone send me the exe who has it installed? 13:47:20 *** Sinagporekid is now known as Skiddles 13:47:25 <Xappu> or smth :)? im kinda newb to this 13:47:43 <KUDr> http://emil.djupfeldt.se/ottd/daily 13:47:44 *** Skiddles is now known as Skiddles^ 13:47:58 <KUDr> this is egladil's site 13:48:01 <KUDr> try it there 13:48:09 <Xappu> what i donwload? 13:48:21 <KUDr> "For the lazy people: a precompiled version of OpenTTD with some of my patches" 13:48:26 <KUDr> i don't know 13:48:31 <KUDr> look around there 13:48:57 <Xappu> theres alot of files how do i know what to dl?:S 13:49:31 <KUDr> try newest exe 13:49:47 <KUDr> win32.zip 13:49:52 <KUDr> maybe? 13:50:12 <KUDr> http://emil.djupfeldt.se/ottd/daily/latest/win32.zip 13:53:03 <Xappu> custom .grf has invalid format :O 13:53:50 <KUDr> then ask author 14:25:34 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7D5F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/"] 14:25:35 <Tron> whatever you're trying to use, it's not a grf file, because you only get that error if the first 5 bytes of the file don't match 14:28:03 <Xappu> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21827 well read it yourself 14:28:43 <Tron> why? 14:28:59 <Xappu> it is a grf file and it worked with others 14:29:06 <Xappu> i mean other ppl got it to work 14:29:17 *** stavrosg_ [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has joined #OpenTTD 14:29:29 *** stavrosg_ [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has quit [Client Quit] 14:30:22 <Tron> it's not a NewGRF file, period 14:41:20 *** hylje [n=HYLJE@a84-230-90-195.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:43:36 <ln-> \o/ window.c:30: ... ((_screen.width + 640) >> 1) ... 14:44:09 <ln-> i can hardly imagine the amount of cpu time in the whole world that the bitshifting here saves every year! 14:45:11 <blathijs> ln-: think of the power savings! 14:46:14 <Bjarni> blathijs: warnings :p 14:47:20 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:48:52 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC8C1CB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 14:53:07 <ln-> btw, the function key ordering is still broken 14:53:11 *** Diablo-D3 [i=diablo@pool-64-222-243-87.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:00:08 *** Seal [n=HYLJE@a84-230-90-195.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:00:18 *** Seal is now known as hylje 15:00:28 <peter1138> afternoon 15:00:33 <hylje> dns broke? 15:00:33 <hylje> :< 15:06:42 *** UnderBuilder [n=UnderBui@168.226.105.33] has joined #openttd 15:11:55 <BurtyB_> seems to work for me hylje? 15:13:17 <hylje> ya it works now 15:13:19 <hylje> might be a local problem 15:13:25 *** Xappu [n=hromanov@ip251.cab4.lsn.starman.ee] has quit ["Dont worryill be back"] 15:13:41 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 15:36:11 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-5360.bb.online.no] has quit ["Que?"] 15:39:43 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-a.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:58 *** Born-Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC8C1CB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 16:08:04 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CC8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:08:15 <Tron> phew... i think i just removed _road_special_gettrackstatus 16:09:03 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D5A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:13:23 <egladil> oh, then i might have use for my diff for removing it from tfc :) 16:13:29 <egladil> unless you way is better 16:13:41 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:14 <Tron> well, basically i don't call GetTileTrackStatus in CheckAllowRemoveRoad() 16:14:43 <Tron> - blocks = GetRoadBitsByTile(tile); 16:14:43 <Tron> + blocks = RoadBitsToTrackBits(GetAnyRoadBits(tile)); 16:14:59 <Tron> that's more the trick 16:15:10 <egladil> about the same thing i did then 16:18:47 *** Skiddles^ [n=notme@cm249.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ["Woo! Sleep!"] 16:19:45 <Tron> egladil: ftp://tron.homeunix.org/ottd/road_hack.diff 16:21:02 <egladil> http://emil.djupfeldt.se/ottd/tfc/road_special_gettrackstatus_v2.diff 16:21:39 <Tron> egladil: i think the current tfc source is wrong: i can't remove _any_ town owned roads, not even end pieces 16:21:59 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC8C1CB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:22:15 <egladil> i know. belugas noticed some days ago 16:22:40 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B746CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:08 <ln-> i think anything ought to be removable in the game 16:23:13 <egladil> it worked when it was written though 16:23:41 <egladil> so either there was a missync or somebody changed something 16:33:58 <Tron> egladil: 16:34:03 <Tron> @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ 16:34:03 <Tron> } 16:34:03 <Tron> 16:34:03 <Tron> // limit the bits to delete to the existing bits. 16:34:03 <Tron> - if (c&= GetRoadBits(tile) == 0) goto return_error; 16:34:04 <Tron> + if ((c &= GetRoadBits(tile)) == 0) goto return_error; 16:34:16 <Tron> (didn't i mention that already some days ago?) 16:37:10 <egladil> yes, i believe you did 16:37:32 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:38:13 <egladil> first it was: 16:38:31 <egladil> c&= GetRoadBits(tile); 16:38:31 <egladil> if (c == 0) 16:38:31 <egladil> goto return_error; 16:39:37 <egladil> the error was introduced in tfc r439 16:45:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7499B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:52:56 *** DmitryKo [n=chatzill@ppp83-237-227-147.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 16:54:06 *** DmitryKo [n=chatzill@ppp83-237-227-147.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 16:59:42 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:59:46 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:24:06 <CIA-5> tron * r3770 /trunk/road_cmd.c: Remove the _road_special_gettrackstatus hack. Egladil and me deem it unnecessary 17:25:33 <CIA-5> egladil * r3771 /branch/tfc_newmap/road_cmd.c: [tfc_newmap] -Fix problem with deleting roads introduced in tfc r439 17:28:55 <Vornicus> TFC? 17:30:16 <egladil> yes 17:33:55 <Vornicus> what's TFC? 17:34:38 <egladil> we are the ones doing the tfc_newmap 17:34:38 <ln-> kenTucky Fried Chicken? 17:34:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> kentucky schreit ficken? 17:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> (that probably leads far off topic ;)) 17:36:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i would also like to know what TFC stands for 17:41:01 <UnderBuilder> The French Corporation 17:43:14 <egladil> connection* 17:48:15 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:48:34 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:49:01 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.240.19.77] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:52:49 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 17:52:56 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:56:56 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["kwiet"] 18:01:19 *** Cipri [n=Cipri@c-24-129-101-95.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:02:59 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 18:17:32 *** A1win [i=a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:17:39 *** A1win [i=a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 18:24:50 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82DC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:25:39 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176115107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:38:03 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:39:47 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176104017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:45:05 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.5.42] has quit ["Sleep 'n' all that [Time wasted online: 12hrs 44mins 53secs]"] 18:49:24 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B746CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:51:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B746CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:03 *** xyzzy1 [i=id@tor/session/x-353de6ec858e3b19] has joined #openttd 18:55:56 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:02:35 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82DC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:17:54 *** xyzzy1 [i=id@tor/session/x-353de6ec858e3b19] has left #openttd [] 19:23:33 <peter1138> damn these running costs 19:23:51 * peter1138 ponders replacing this with a truck service 19:25:56 <SpComb> replace it with nothingnes 19:26:09 <SpComb> those people/goods don't want to go there anyways! 19:26:26 <peter1138> well 19:26:36 <peter1138> even the truck's running cost is 12k 19:27:01 <Tron> town_cmd.c is nasty 19:27:27 <Tron> towns use a direction encoding which is exactly the opposite of DiagDirection 19:27:51 <Tron> DiagDir = 3 ^ TownDir 19:28:09 <peter1138> how strange 19:28:43 <Tron> if you want to see something strange, look at GetTownRoadMask() 19:29:26 <blathijs> Tron: what are TownDirs used for then? 19:29:45 <Tron> mainly used for growing towns 19:29:52 <Tron> there's an array 19:29:58 <Tron> _roadblock_tileadd 19:30:07 <Tron> it looks _very_ similar to TileOffsByDir() 19:30:26 <blathijs> ah 19:30:32 <blathijs> briljant :-) 19:30:33 <Tron> but it's just goes in the opposite direction 19:35:07 <peter1138> income: 580000 19:35:16 <peter1138> operating profit: -125000 19:36:14 <Tron> not so good 19:36:31 <hylje> :o 19:36:35 <hylje> what are you doing 19:37:00 <peter1138> 1) inflation 19:37:06 <peter1138> 2) high vehicle running costs 19:37:11 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37:17 <peter1138> 3) using ukrs 19:37:25 <hylje> k 19:37:33 <peter1138> makes it a bit more challenging :) 19:37:40 <hylje> ukrs? 19:37:51 <peter1138> i've still got a massive wodge of cash, mind 19:37:55 <peter1138> uk renewal 19:37:59 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 19:38:05 <Tron> blathijs: interestingly TownDir more closly matches RoadBits 19:38:12 <Tron> RoadBits = 1 << TownDir 19:38:14 <Tron> instead of 19:38:24 <Tron> RoadBits = 1 << (3 ^ DiagDir) 19:39:18 <blathijs> what's RoadBits? :-) 19:39:28 <blathijs> I never really understood RV's 19:39:45 <Tron> not road vehicles, but road tiles 19:40:00 <Tron> RoadBits indicate which road pieces are present 19:40:19 *** bp0 [i=pburt0@watertownDHCP-2.216-254-231.iw.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:48 <blathijs> ah 19:42:25 *** bp0 [i=pburt0@watertownDHCP-2.216-254-231.iw.net] has left #openttd [] 19:44:56 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit ["Windows, the best game ever: Try to see how many blue screens you can get per hour and then try to beat that record!"] 19:46:38 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@80.57.35.26] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:46:49 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:56:20 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 19:57:00 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Client Quit] 19:57:19 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:57:40 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:58:27 *** UnderBuilder [n=UnderBui@168.226.105.33] has quit ["Find me in the hell"] 19:58:58 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["kwiet"] 20:07:47 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 20:10:18 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 20:11:06 *** glx is now known as glx|away 20:14:20 <CIA-5> rubidium * r3772 /branch/tfc_newmap/stdafx.h: 20:14:20 <CIA-5> [tfc_newmap] - Use abort() instead of assert(0) in NOT_REACHED. 20:14:20 <CIA-5> This removes the 'control reaches end of non-void function' warnings when 20:14:20 <CIA-5> assertions are disabled. It furthermore changes the behaviour of NOT_REACHED 20:14:20 <CIA-5> when compiled without assertions, as it will now quit instead of continuing 20:14:21 <CIA-5> after you have reached an illegal state. 20:17:54 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:23:05 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:26:17 *** Pipian [n=pipian@jacobi.stu.rpi.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:26:42 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:37:44 <Tron> static int32 ClearTile_Town(TileIndex tile, byte flags) 20:37:44 <Tron> { 20:37:45 <Tron> [...] 20:37:47 <Tron> if (!EnsureNoVehicle(tile)) return CMD_ERROR; 20:38:00 <Tron> am I the only one who thinks this is strange? 20:38:18 <peter1138> :) 20:48:51 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 20:51:02 <Bjarni> maybe the town want to clear a town owned road tile? 20:51:42 <hylje> could town growing speed be accelerated or slowed with a setting 20:51:59 <Bjarni> sure, we could add such a feature 20:52:12 <Bjarni> somebody wrote a patch to do it 20:52:18 <Bjarni> I don't know if it still works though 20:52:30 <Hendikins> What are we making, SeaMonkey the game? :P 20:52:52 <Bjarni> ? 20:53:13 <Hendikins> 50 bazillion prefs, hidden or otherwise 20:53:47 * Hendikins hightails 20:53:53 <Bjarni> this could be one reason why it was not added 20:54:11 <hylje> there is nothing bad with a hidden config file with everything 20:54:24 <hylje> advanced users love, normal users dont need to know 20:54:49 <Bjarni> actually Darkvater started bitching about too many options in Makefile.config not long ago and removed some of them 20:55:26 <hylje> heh 20:55:35 <Bjarni> I think we should do the same to the ingame settings 20:56:16 <hylje> scrap all options and say "its the way it was meant to be played" 20:56:32 <Bjarni> yeah 20:56:39 <Bjarni> and then set it like I like it 20:56:45 <Bjarni> I would agree to that 20:57:55 <hylje> but really 20:58:17 <hylje> amount of options is a strange thing 20:58:33 <ln-> who has a linux system with two screens connected to it? 20:58:48 <Bjarni> not me 20:58:53 <hylje> too low: everyone complains, too much: everyone but the tuning people complain 20:59:56 <Bjarni> I once joined a server where non-uniform stations were turned OFF and that made my half done station look stupid 21:00:08 <hylje> :D 21:00:32 <Bjarni> which means it should be hardcoded to be on 21:00:35 <hylje> maybe on server join it should pop up a dialog listing settings changed from defaults 21:00:52 <hylje> defaults/own settings 21:01:05 <Bjarni> also some of the settings should not be settings in the settings window 21:01:06 <Bjarni> like autorenew 21:01:23 <Bjarni> it should be an option in the game, not a global option 21:01:33 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["I seem to be off"] 21:02:18 <ln-> does someone have an opinion about this patch: http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/ottd/window-centering-with-twinview.diff 21:03:36 <hylje> maybe split the options in three categories: default game options (can be changed ingame), global options (not changable ingame), patch options 21:04:17 <Bjarni> ln-: no comment. It contains window stuff 21:04:17 <Bjarni> :p 21:04:47 <Bjarni> hylje: I don't know... why even have patch settings? 21:04:57 <Bjarni> what did we patch? our own code or ? 21:05:07 <hylje> s/patch/addon 21:05:15 <Bjarni> it makes sense for TTDpatch, but not for us 21:05:28 <hylje> ok, remove it :] 21:05:30 <Bjarni> and what would be under addon? 21:05:36 <hylje> i dont really know 21:05:41 <Bjarni> :) 21:05:45 <hylje> if the game even supports addon-like stuff 21:06:09 <hylje> but categorising is fun 21:06:10 <Bjarni> eventually we should get an ingame newgrf setup 21:06:48 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:07:57 <hylje> then all categories have a switch toggling advanced stuff on/off, default off 21:08:13 <hylje> id believe most of the people would be happy with that 21:08:33 <Bjarni> then we should have "game options, global options (I don't like that name), newGRF settings and Do not touch" 21:08:45 <Bjarni> clicking the last one would quit the game without saying anything 21:08:47 <Bjarni> it should just quit 21:09:10 <hylje> replace the last with "Really Advanced Stuff, Do Not Touch!" 21:09:41 * Bjarni writes that idea down 21:09:43 <Bjarni> I like it 21:09:45 <hylje> then the game quits with message: User error: Not advanced enough 21:09:58 <Bjarni> lol 21:09:58 <Bjarni> even better 21:10:28 <Bjarni> or maybe just a red error window without quitting. That would be easier to port 21:10:47 <hylje> pretty much 21:10:52 <hylje> and less annoying 21:11:09 <Bjarni> hmm 21:11:27 <Bjarni> quick way to kill the game... just make it write something to a NULL pointer 21:11:37 <Bjarni> that will quit the game on all ports 21:12:06 <hylje> obviously 21:14:26 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 21:14:48 *** Nubian [n=nubian@217.172.152.99] has quit ["Idem, pridem ..."] 21:15:46 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 21:18:22 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has joined #openttd 21:18:28 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:21:48 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 21:25:37 <Bjarni> <Pikapi> but microsoft doesn't sell windows for macintosh? 21:25:38 <Bjarni> LOL 21:26:00 <hylje> yes, it doesnt? 21:26:12 <Qball> they do. 21:26:13 <hylje> maybe it changes with longhorn release 21:26:13 <Bjarni> reminds me of the guy, who wanted to run windows software on mac and claimed that it should be easy 21:26:18 <Qball> they sell software 21:26:21 <Bjarni> the keyboards looks the same 21:26:25 <Qball> and they put a free version of virtual pc with it 21:26:38 <Bjarni> free VPC? 21:26:44 <hylje> NT 4 supported PPC afaik 21:26:51 <tefad> it did 21:26:56 <Qball> I got it with office for free 21:29:45 <hylje> mm 21:30:15 <hylje> would a "randomize options" button be cool too 21:30:17 <hylje> :p 21:30:43 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?58743 <--- LOL 21:31:11 <hylje> bash has plenty of quotes worth a lol 21:32:27 <Bjarni> that one reminds me. Long ago my father invited two women from Jehovah's witnesses in and talked with them for way more than 15 minutes 21:32:42 <Bjarni> he thought it was funny since he claimed it to be bullshit in his own way 21:33:07 <Noldo> Bjarni: hey, my father has do that too 21:33:23 <Bjarni> a few months later one of them returned and thanked him. She had thought a lot about what he said and had then left Jehovah's witnesses 21:33:32 <Bjarni> then they didn't visit us again :D 21:33:44 <tefad> wow 21:34:42 <hylje> quite owned 21:34:43 <hylje> in one way 21:35:37 <Bjarni> so that is how to get rid of them 21:36:34 <hylje> not everyone can be that witty, aalthough the internet has collected info to use for it 21:36:41 <hylje> argh, typos 21:36:48 <Prof_Frink> I prefer sacrificing a cow 21:37:00 <hylje> i prefer virgins 21:37:23 <Bjarni> I learned another way to get rid of them, that's faster and easier 21:37:35 <hylje> shotgun? 21:37:39 <Bjarni> one guy got visits from them all the time and he was really annoyed 21:37:51 <Bjarni> so one time they came while he was in the shower 21:38:15 <Bjarni> he just got his ... uhh... drying thing.. around his privates and answered the door 21:38:21 <Prof_Frink> towel. 21:38:23 <hylje> towel 21:38:37 <Bjarni> I knew that... I just forgot it :s 21:38:45 <hylje> i like chainlink towels, "Now even less absorbant!" 21:38:45 <Prof_Frink> You'll never survive as an interstellar hitch-hiker 21:39:14 <Bjarni> and he said "I would like to speak to you, but I was in the middle of an sexual act and now HE is lying in there waiting for me" 21:39:21 <Bjarni> he never got a visit again 21:40:04 <hylje> its good to be secure about own sexuality 21:40:05 <Bjarni> I would have liked to see the faces of those two elderly women :p 21:40:14 <hylje> can joke about being gay 21:40:28 <Bjarni> the thing is... he might have been 21:40:37 <hylje> or -- straight in case the person is gay 21:40:56 <hylje> heh 21:40:56 <RoySmeding> hmm. 21:42:45 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?76726 <--- I guess it was some sort of paysite or something... could be funnier if you knew what "AltaVista's Babe..." is :/ 21:43:22 <hylje> Google Pr0n 21:43:59 <hylje> hmm 21:44:31 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 21:44:57 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?104759 <--- now we just need to figure out where the pussies are 21:45:01 * Bjarni looks around 21:45:02 <Vornicus> altavista's babelfish 21:45:10 <tefad> yeah 21:45:16 <tefad> babel.altavista.com 21:45:20 <Bjarni> ok, we can still call them actions in here 21:45:22 <tefad> it's wootalicious 21:45:53 <hylje> leetastic 21:46:41 <Bjarni> In het Nederlands: 21:46:42 <Bjarni> AltaVista's Babe 21:46:48 <Bjarni> cool 21:46:51 <Bjarni> I didn't knew that 21:46:52 <Bjarni> :p 21:47:06 <hylje> now you do? 21:47:14 * Bjarni still misses the link to "AltaVista's Babes" 21:47:23 <Bjarni> err 21:47:28 <Bjarni> that came out wrong 21:47:40 * Bjarni still misses the connection to "AltaVista's Babes" 21:47:41 <hylje> welcome to bashorg 21:47:45 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:47:50 <Vornicus> No, no, see. 21:48:05 <Vornicus> The bookmark's name was too long, so it got cut off. 21:48:13 <hylje> it has all kinds of "that came out wrong" quotes 21:48:15 <Vornicus> and it's only one babe 21:48:58 <Bjarni> are you claiming that there are only one babe on the internet??? 21:49:26 <hylje> yes 21:49:33 <hylje> called .jpg 21:49:58 <Bjarni> btw they translated Babel Fish to Danish, but it can't translate to/from Danish 21:50:08 <Bjarni> which means it feels a bit odd to use it 21:50:40 <hylje> really 21:50:48 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:51:24 <Bjarni> ahh, now I get it :D 21:51:44 <Bjarni> but the tool suck :p 21:52:05 <Kjetil> haha 21:52:13 <Kjetil> babelfish suck at translating anyhow 21:52:56 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?245883 <-- that would also work on Jehovah's witnesses 21:52:58 <Bjarni> :D 21:54:02 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?147463 <--- LOL 21:54:43 <tefad> hah 21:56:29 <Kjetil> hahah 21:57:05 <Kjetil> *bah* Now we are all gay.. thanks a bounch Bjarni .. 21:57:14 <hylje> np 21:59:29 <Bjarni> :( 21:59:41 <Bjarni> then I will have to kill all of you 21:59:52 <hylje> omg 22:00:00 <hylje> z0r 22:00:02 * Bjarni invents AIDS mk 2 22:00:08 * Bjarni tries it on Kjetil 22:00:30 <Bjarni> in 20 minutes, it will have reached 80% of you 22:00:31 <Kjetil> GAhh 22:00:33 <Kjetil> It burns ! 22:00:42 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946746.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [""cal 9 1752""] 22:00:48 <Bjarni> ... 22:00:50 <Kjetil> *gays around* 22:00:59 <Bjarni> it worked faster on Angst than I though 22:01:05 <Kjetil> haha 22:01:21 <hylje> gimme wurst 22:01:40 <Kjetil> He is off to the real world to spread it 22:01:54 <hylje> k 22:02:09 <Bjarni> now here is the really funny part: I can remember that it was something only gays know... but I forgot what it was :p 22:02:26 <hylje> you forgot gayness 22:03:18 * Kjetil can't remember the word.. it was something beginning with r ? 22:03:51 <hylje> south park had a joke, where only gay people could say f****t 22:04:02 <hylje> everyone else was censored 22:08:15 <Bjarni> now this is funny 22:08:32 <Bjarni> we should all be gay because we learned a word only known to gay people 22:08:37 <Bjarni> yet we all forgot it :) 22:13:09 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has quit ["gimme all your hardware!"] 22:35:06 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 22:41:34 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-95.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 22:48:18 *** glx|away is now known as glx 22:53:30 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 22:53:37 <MeusH> hello 22:53:38 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:53:45 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: ping 22:54:21 <MeusH> Darkvater: ping 22:55:31 <MeusH> Bjarni: ping 22:55:40 <Prof_Frink> MeusH: pong 22:55:42 <MeusH> hey I need to talk to someone important here 22:55:45 <Prof_Frink> </spoofing attack> 22:56:21 <MeusH> who is responsible for the OTTD webpage, besides MiHaMiX? 22:57:16 <MeusH> TrueLight? DaleStan? 22:57:44 <Prof_Frink> DaleStan is just resident pedant. 22:59:55 <ln-> i'm in no way responsible about anything, but i am extremely important. 23:00:12 <MeusH> I'm wondering what to do to get noticed 23:00:19 <MeusH> and I'm thinking about something stupid 23:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause> change your nick to SweetGirl17 and ask anything sexual ;) 23:09:00 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82DC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 23:12:54 <Bjarni> MeusH: pong 23:14:24 <MeusH> okay Bjarni good you're here 23:14:32 <MeusH> Wiki is totally spammed 23:14:42 <MeusH> and I request a security tools 23:15:02 <MeusH> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Protecting_the_wiki 23:15:29 <MeusH> someone should care about that 23:16:32 <MeusH> because I've got other things to do than banning spambots and removing spam pages everyday 23:18:21 <Bjarni> Email MiHaMiX about it 23:18:44 <Bjarni> I can't do anything to the wiki that you can't do 23:20:18 <Bjarni> you got his Email? 23:21:52 <Bjarni> hi SweetGirl17... where do you live? 23:22:49 <ln-> a/s/l, in short. 23:23:12 <Bjarni> err 23:23:20 <Eddi|zuHause> well... a and s are redundant... 23:23:28 <Bjarni> Girl+17 already answered two of them 23:23:29 <Eddi|zuHause> (hopefully ;)) 23:23:58 <Bjarni> otherwise it's a bash.org candidate 23:24:08 <Eddi|zuHause> well, obviously she lives in "sweet" then ;) 23:24:19 * Bjarni wonders where that is 23:25:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Sweet! - Dude! - Sweet! - Dude! ... ;) 23:25:37 <Bjarni> I once read a log on bash.org where two people went cyper with each other (a lame thing to do, but ok). They talked dirty for a few lines and then the guy said that it made his dick hard and the girl answered "yeah, mine too.(newline) oh shit" 23:26:29 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe ;) 23:26:45 <Eddi|zuHause> 90% of the girls in IRC are to 80% male ;) 23:27:17 <Bjarni> and 50% of the girls on IRC are lesbians 23:27:39 <Bjarni> 99% of the people in #lesbian are guys :p 23:28:33 <Bjarni> IRC: the place where men are men, women are men and kids are FBI agents 23:29:16 <Eddi|zuHause> now you are just missing a chuck norris fact ;) 23:29:17 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:30:12 <MeusH> Bjarni: is it mihamix@openttd.org ? 23:30:58 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|sleep 23:32:18 <Bjarni> Chuck Norris? 23:32:28 <MeusH> pmed okay 23:32:48 <Kjetil> Chuck norris == root 23:33:14 <Bjarni> the only thing the name Norris means to me is the 4-2-0 Norris steam locomotive in Railroad Tycoon 1 23:33:19 <Kjetil> hehe 23:33:47 <Bjarni> the mac version had a nasty bug btw 23:34:02 *** Born-Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC8C1CB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:34:09 <Bjarni> they had switched the pics of Mikado and the one right before or after it 23:34:15 <Bjarni> :( 23:35:13 <Bjarni> also the engine pics were in 1 bit colour while the rest of the game supported 256 colours 23:35:17 <Bjarni> now that looked odd 23:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess i did not play a whole lot of RR tycoon... 23:36:13 <Bjarni> shame on you 23:36:35 <Eddi|zuHause> but i believe my version was only 16 colours 23:36:54 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure though 23:37:03 <Bjarni> now you made me unsure 23:38:15 <Eddi|zuHause> well... i only got it after Transport Tycoon i believe... 23:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause> so i put it away pretty fast 23:38:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and iirc it was virus infected even... 23:38:51 <Bjarni> heh 23:39:38 <Bjarni> I can remember when I moved from Amiga to mac and got a 40 Mb HD 23:39:54 <Bjarni> it was really big and insanely fast 23:39:57 <MeusH> wiki will be safe, soon 23:40:00 <MeusH> thank you Bjarni 23:40:06 <Bjarni> :) 23:40:17 <MeusH> goodnight 23:40:20 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Cya layer"] 23:40:24 <Bjarni> 68k CPUs rocked 23:40:34 <Bjarni> they don't anymore, but they did back then 23:41:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i never got anything other than x86 23:41:09 <Eddi|zuHause> PC 23:41:11 <Bjarni> try to go tell a kid today that you got all excited that you got a 16MHz CPU and you will get a funny look 23:41:27 <Bjarni> 68020 even 23:41:36 <Vornicus> the 68000 series were a wonderful piece of equipment. 23:41:45 <Bjarni> yeah 23:41:54 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"] 23:41:56 <Bjarni> I only broke it once 23:42:11 <Vornicus> I can speak English, really. 23:42:19 <Bjarni> some guy gave me a cool extension (in the OS) that turned out to contain 68030 code :( 23:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause> you can break the same thing more than once? 23:42:41 <Bjarni> it was fixed :p 23:42:59 <Bjarni> when you break something, you fix it so you can break it again 23:43:20 <Bjarni> <Vornicus> I can speak English, really. <-- context? 23:43:22 <Eddi|zuHause> well... whenever i attempt to fix anything, i break it even more ;) 23:43:32 <Vornicus> My previous sentence was horrid. 23:43:36 <Bjarni> nobody questioned your ability to communicate 23:43:42 <Vornicus> I did. 23:43:54 <Eddi|zuHause> what was wrong with the sentence? 23:44:20 <Eddi|zuHause> well... maybe series requires singular, but that's all 23:44:24 <Vornicus> "the 68000 series" is singular, but "were" looks for a plural, and then I switched back to singular. 23:44:48 <Vornicus> and then "piece of equipment" does not accurately describe a "series" of processors. 23:45:16 * Bjarni must be getting sleepy 23:45:25 <Bjarni> I should have noticed, but I didn't 23:46:08 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:46:37 <Vornicus> (it's a shame the Sega Genesis had crappy graphics hardware. The 68000 in there could run circles around the SNES's chip any day of the week.) 23:47:33 <Bjarni> it's a shame the newer Amigas ended up being so crappy and not compatible with the Amiga 500 23:47:50 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 23:47:51 <Bjarni> it had a really interesting design 23:48:31 <Bjarni> the 7,14 MHz 68000 should not do as much as you might expect since it had hardware to handle a whole lot of other stuff 23:48:42 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:49 <Bjarni> so it did stuff in parallel 23:48:57 <Bjarni> like having a GPU and so on 23:49:26 <Bjarni> they discarded that idea and now we went back to it 23:50:07 <Eddi|zuHause> you know how often the nature invented things like eyes or legs? 23:50:21 <Bjarni> hmm 23:50:23 <Bjarni> no 23:50:31 <Bjarni> that's not what I usually wonder 23:50:45 <Bjarni> but why didn't nature invent the wheel? 23:50:53 <Bjarni> it's a lot faster 23:50:58 <Bjarni> think about it 23:51:14 <Bjarni> if an animal had wheels, it could chase it's pray easier 23:51:22 <Vornicus> How do you feed a wheel? 23:51:37 <Vornicus> How do you seal an axle? 23:51:37 <Eddi|zuHause> not unless the nature invented roads first ;) 23:51:59 <Bjarni> Vornicus: nature got a lot of clever designs 23:52:14 <Bjarni> I'm not into biomechanics 23:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause> and i am pretty sure the nature DID invent wheels 23:52:50 <Bjarni> if nature is so wonderful, then why didn't it invent the computer long ago? 23:52:53 <Vornicus> Sure, but the point is that 5 billion years of evolution and 5,000 years of very hard thinking by humans has not come up with a way to create an axle that is sealed. 23:53:00 <Vornicus> Um, bjarni? 23:53:08 <Vornicus> there's one sitting on your shoulders. 23:53:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: what do you think you have in your head? 23:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause> a super capacitive neuronal network 23:53:57 <Bjarni> it's not a binary thing 23:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause> (or two) 23:54:13 <Eddi|zuHause> who said computers had to be binary? 23:54:14 <Bjarni> why didn't nature make a binary computer? 23:54:14 <Vornicus> massively parallel, with dedicated subsystems for sound and visual processing... 23:55:00 <Bjarni> I lack a decent video output 23:55:01 <Vornicus> Because brains rarely need to count higher than about 20. 23:56:13 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 23:56:26 *** dp_ [n=dp@p54B2D84D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:57:21 <Eddi|zuHause> experiments showed that the brain can handle around 7 things simultaneously 23:58:29 <Bjarni> hmm 23:58:37 <Bjarni> some people can only handle one thing at a time 23:58:52 <ln-> if even that many 23:59:01 <Vornicus> depends on how you define "thing" and "handle" 23:59:02 <Bjarni> except somehow such people can always manage to watch porn and jerk off at the same time 23:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause> well... that is more complex "things" 23:59:24 <ln-> Bjarni: you know from experience? 23:59:39 <Bjarni> why do you think I spend so much time in the lab