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[~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:33:46 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44:03 <MiHaMiX> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-08-16 09:42:57 07:44:03 <Darkvater> morning 07:44:05 <MiHaMiX> turkish - 2 fixed by jnmbk (2) 07:44:08 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: hi :) 07:45:17 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:48:15 *** MiHaMiX was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [rejoin] 07:49:07 *** puck42 [~andrew@202.154.147.202] has joined #openttd 07:49:23 <Darkvater> !seen cia 07:49:24 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, I don't remember seeing cia. 07:49:29 <Darkvater> goddammit 07:56:38 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 07:56:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 08:00:51 <Darkvater> wb MiHaMiX 08:01:54 <MiHaMiX> :) 08:03:23 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 08:09:49 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:10:01 <Darkvater> morning Tron_ 08:10:07 <peter1138> morning 08:10:34 <Darkvater> morning peter1138, didn't know you were here ;0 08:10:40 <peter1138> just got in :) 08:11:09 <peter1138> i'm wondering about skiving off to pack more stuff 08:11:13 <peter1138> i've got some much shit 08:12:03 <Darkvater> gogo, move! 08:12:07 <ln-> how many devs have *not* picked their nicks from movies? 08:12:31 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:12:35 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:12:39 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 08:12:54 <MiHaMiX> ln-: me :) 08:13:35 <Darkvater> I haven't either 08:13:38 <Rubidium> that's not an answer to his question 08:13:39 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:13:41 <Darkvater> Lucas stole my name :( 08:13:46 <peter1138> 5 08:13:56 <Darkvater> 4 08:13:59 <peter1138> Lucas stole my number 08:14:11 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:15:19 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:15:22 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:15:43 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 08:15:47 <ln-> Darkvater: you have also had "muad'dib" in your real name, haven't you? 08:16:00 * ln- watched THX 1138 yesterday 08:17:18 <Darkvater> ln-: since when is that a movie? 08:18:10 <ln-> Darkvater: 1984 08:18:37 <Darkvater> so because this flynch guy made a movie from the book, it's a movie-name now? 08:18:38 <Darkvater> sad 08:19:13 <Darkvater> muad'dib rules!! Atreides forevuhh! 08:19:28 <Darkvater> Tron_: still no answer from CIA about the move :s 08:19:28 <ln-> yes, sad. and i have to admit i haven't read the book(s) by mr. frank herbert. 08:19:37 * Darkvater slaps ln- 08:19:39 <Darkvater> heresy! 08:19:40 <ln-> quizas hadarak 08:20:52 <ln-> (how is that spelled?) 08:21:27 <Tron_> Darkvater: *grml* 08:21:28 <Maedhros> Darkvater: i know of people who've been waiting for replies from micah for over a month now... 08:21:45 <Tron_> in case anybody is wondering why i enter and leave over and over: i'm just tryin to configure xchat 08:23:41 <Darkvater> Maedhros: that is not what I wanted to hear :( 08:23:59 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:24:07 <Darkvater> hmm can someone write a bot that copies everything that is said in #openttd-freenode to here? 08:24:25 <Darkvater> I'd run it, but this irssi client can't run perl scripts 08:24:40 <Darkvater> hmm, wait Tron_ kickbanned him ;o 08:24:59 <ln-> whaat, tron never kickbans people 08:25:41 <Tron_> Darkvater: why not just write a bot which parses the commit emails and posts the content here (; 08:26:22 <MiHaMiX> Tron_: since someone else already wrote that script 08:26:31 <MiHaMiX> Tron_: we can download the source of CIA 08:26:43 <MiHaMiX> Tron_: we just need to configure that, and we can run, I think 08:27:07 <Tron_> MiHaMiX: i just wanted to point out how pointless it is to write a bot which copies what another bot says (: 08:27:39 <MiHaMiX> Tron_: I agree with that 08:28:54 <Darkvater> yes, but such a bot is about 3-4 lines in mIRC 08:30:47 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:32:24 <peter1138> meh 08:32:27 <peter1138> running out of packing room 08:32:54 <Darkvater> you're packing at work? 08:33:03 <peter1138> no 08:33:07 <peter1138> just thinking instead of working ;p 08:33:17 <Darkvater> :) 08:35:29 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:37:43 <peter1138> some twit keeps assigning tasks to me on flyspray... 08:38:22 * Darkvater *whistles* 08:38:46 <Darkvater> nothing today though, and your last assignment bjarni committed ;) 08:39:28 <Darkvater> he, I sound like yoda 08:39:39 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D07D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:41:49 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:55 <Darkvater> by guys 08:50:17 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has joined #openttd 08:53:53 *** roboconcert [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:54:06 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:54:36 *** roboconcert is now known as roboman 08:54:39 <roboman> hello 08:54:51 <Patrick`> Darkvater: bridging bots exist 08:58:58 <blathijs> I'd fire up one in a few minutes, if supybot wouldn't be refusing to connect for some strange reason... 09:00:05 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387D3DF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:03:02 <Patrick`> remember, one-way 09:03:10 <Patrick`> we don't need any incentive for people to stay there 09:04:47 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D3DF.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:10:00 <Darkvater> only 3 people left in freenode 09:10:06 <Darkvater> besides some trailing ops 09:10:08 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has left #openttd [] 09:10:08 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 09:10:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 09:10:12 <Darkvater> 70 here 09:10:19 <roboman> !spam 09:10:19 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 09:11:01 <MiHaMiX> roboboy: no color pls 09:11:04 *** mode/#openttd [+c] by MiHaMiX 09:11:04 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11:20 <Darkvater> should've kicked him 09:11:40 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: +c will be enough for now :) 09:11:59 <Darkvater> weak deterrent 09:12:01 <Darkvater> :) 09:14:59 *** Diablo-D3 [~diablo@pool-64-222-232-26.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:06 <Diablo-D3> welcome to oftc, guys 09:15:17 <MiHaMiX> Diablo-D3: welcome to #openttd 09:15:50 <Darkvater> well hello Diablo-D3. Haven't seen you in quite a while 09:15:59 <Diablo-D3> Darkvater: I quit freenode, remember? 09:16:17 <Darkvater> not really 09:16:23 * Darkvater easily forgets things 09:16:29 <Diablo-D3> hah 09:16:31 <Diablo-D3> well, I did 09:18:36 <Darkvater> this is bad 09:18:45 <Darkvater> 1. I am hungr 09:18:48 <Darkvater> 2. very hungry 09:18:52 <Diablo-D3> 2. your y key is bork 09:18:56 <Darkvater> 3. lunch isn't for yet another hour 09:19:03 <Darkvater> 4. I forgot to bring food 09:20:07 <Darkvater> 5. I'm bored 09:20:14 <Darkvater> very, very dangerous combination 09:20:41 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: are you threatening us? 09:20:43 <Rubidium> hmm, can do something about that ;) 09:20:45 <ThePizzaKing> hehehe: http://cia.navi.cx/irc 09:20:56 <ThePizzaKing> check out the 'recent unhandled messages' section 09:21:53 <Darkvater> Rubidium: you canbring me food? 09:22:10 <Rubidium> no, but could solve the bored part partially 09:22:23 <Diablo-D3> lol 09:22:25 <Darkvater> he 09:22:33 <Diablo-D3> someone forgot to tell scanline that #openttd moved 09:22:35 <MiHaMiX> 08:59 on Aug 16, 2006CIA-5freenodeERR_BANNEDFROMCHAN'CIA-5', '#openttd', "You're banned from that channel" 09:22:43 <Darkvater> ERR_BANNEDFROMCHAN 09:22:52 <Diablo-D3> Ill go tell him 09:23:04 <Darkvater> Diablo-D3: someone at cia forgot to move cia after repeated requests :( 09:23:09 <Darkvater> Diablo-D3: would be great :D 09:23:14 <Diablo-D3> Darkvater: that would be scanline 09:24:01 <Darkvater> ah /me wonders at who scanline is 09:24:34 <Diablo-D3> the owner of cia. 09:25:09 <Darkvater> ah 09:25:45 *** byq [~byq@chello087206151091.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 09:27:02 <Diablo-D3> Darkvater: hes either asleep or at work atm 09:27:09 <Diablo-D3> he'll probably do it in the next day or so 09:27:46 <Darkvater> that would be awesome 09:27:52 <Darkvater> you DO come in handy ;) 09:27:59 *** byq [~byq@chello087206151091.chello.pl] has left #openttd [] 09:43:34 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:47:24 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:48:04 <Maedhros> are there any devs around that i can persuade/bribe to look over my diagonal crossings patch and tell me what i need to do for it to be considered for inclusion into openttd? 09:48:16 <peter1138> cookies 09:48:20 <peter1138> lots of chocolate 09:48:20 <peter1138> beer 09:48:23 <peter1138> in that order 09:48:25 <Darkvater> help you move? 09:48:40 <peter1138> if you want 09:50:10 * Maedhros wonders how well the royal mail will cope with sending beer 09:51:12 <Darkvater> they'll probably single it out, drink it themselves and then blaim terrorists for it 09:51:41 <Diablo-D3> YAR THOSE BASTARDLY TERRORISTS, IN YOUR POST OFFICE DRINKING YOUR BEER *hic!* 09:51:55 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:54:37 <Nigel> hey Diablo-D3 09:55:12 <Diablo-D3> Nigel: YAR TERRORISTS! 09:55:21 <Diablo-D3> er, wtf you doing in here? 09:56:11 <Nigel> you know, you reckon the CIA would have known to move the bot before you actually moved, like they *ARE* the CIA, they are meant to know everything, it's their job description 09:56:29 <Diablo-D3> shuddup Nigel 09:56:37 <Diablo-D3> the joke was only funny the first 4329801 times. 09:56:58 <Nigel> Diablo-D3, I play OpenTTD, so i might as well know what happens 09:58:09 <Diablo-D3> just because CIA watches subversion doesnt mean its _that_ CIA 09:58:45 <Nigel> i know, i know 09:58:56 <Nigel> I use the CIA as well 10:04:06 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a2e.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:04:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 10:04:17 <Darkvater> quickly hide! 10:04:46 <peter1138> i already was 10:06:22 * Bjarni hides 10:06:25 <Bjarni> what are we hiding from? 10:06:30 <Darkvater> you 10:06:39 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@AC8F1603.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 10:06:39 <Born_Acorn> og 10:06:43 <Born_Acorn> D: 10:06:45 *** Gorre` [dik@ip-89-102-198-129.karneval.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:52 <Bjarni> why? 10:08:04 <Bjarni> I know you are here, so why hide? 10:08:42 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09:08 <Rubidium> is there anybody who currently has access to MSVC, has the latest trunk revision and is willing to compile-test a patch? 10:09:14 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:10:12 <Darkvater> cause Belugas said so 10:22:10 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-195-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:38 <Darkvater> yaay, food :D 10:25:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:25:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 10:29:50 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC59D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:32:41 *** Tron_ [pcibb1SA@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 10:35:16 <peter1138> hmm, not far til r6000 10:41:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B777A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:47 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 11:00:54 *** Diablo-D3 [~diablo@pool-64-222-232-26.port.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: do coders dream of sheep()?] 11:04:28 *** puck42 [~andrew@202.154.147.202] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 11:15:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77588.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:45 *** Tron_ [pcibb1SA@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:29:41 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: WORK! 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INTERNS!] 11:32:41 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 11:34:12 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.148.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41:00 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:41:32 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 11:41:55 *** Tron_ [Tu7ZzKsl@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 11:43:38 <Sacro> whoo, laptop going again 11:45:16 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: going where? 11:45:42 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: slowly towards the bin 11:45:48 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: :-( 11:45:55 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: how old is your laptop? 11:46:43 <Sacro> errm, i bought it off a mate about 3 months ago, i think its about 3/4 years old 11:47:07 <Darkvater> your mate screwed you over big time 11:47:18 *** Dred_furst [~nn@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:47:22 <Sacro> i only paid £200 for it, i still owe him £100 11:47:33 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: hmm.. 11:47:40 <Sacro> he aint getting it either 11:48:04 <Darkvater> you can give him back the laptop as the payment ;) 11:48:13 <Sacro> heh, hes said that 11:48:16 <roboman> gnight 11:48:19 <Sacro> but its not like its worth out 11:48:21 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: my laptop is 4 years old now, I bought it for 1400 euro four years ago 11:48:23 <Sacro> *owt 11:48:24 *** roboman is now known as robobed 11:48:37 <Bjarni> Sacro: what about warranty? 11:48:54 <Sacro> Bjarni: it wont have one 11:48:58 <Dred_furst> I found the channel :) 11:49:07 <Bjarni> why not? 11:49:11 <Sacro> too old 11:49:38 <Bjarni> oh, you mean 3 or 4 years old, not 9 months 11:49:41 <Bjarni> right? 11:49:53 <Sacro> yeah, 3-4 :) 11:49:54 <Darkvater> Dred_furst: congratulations :) 11:49:59 <Dred_furst> lol 11:50:00 <Dred_furst> :) 11:50:08 <Bjarni> Dred_furst: hi 11:50:10 <Bjarni> nice to see you 11:50:13 <Dred_furst> Hey :) 11:50:32 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:51:01 <Bjarni> according to whois, Dred_furst's real name is "NoNameScript user", just in case you guys were wondering who found the channel ;) 11:51:13 <Dred_furst> lol let me change that 11:51:19 <Dred_furst> This is a fairly plain install of it 11:52:10 <Darkvater> I never really liked nnscript 11:52:14 *** Tron_ [Tu7ZzKsl@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52:19 *** Tron_ [OPW3eNhk@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 11:52:38 <Darkvater> wow, who would've thought tron would have so much trouble with xchat 11:52:38 <Bjarni> well mr user. Do you think it was hard to find the channel? 11:55:44 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 11:56:37 *** Dred_furst` [~nn@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:57:13 <Bjarni> hello again mr user 11:57:53 <Dred_furst`> Has it fixed it? :) 11:58:03 <Dred_furst`> Damn it 11:59:03 <Darkvater> what it has fixed it what? 11:59:10 <Dred_furst`> The whois thing 11:59:18 <Darkvater> look yourself 11:59:21 <Darkvater> /whois Dred_furst 11:59:24 <Dred_furst`> Did 11:59:26 <Dred_furst`> Its still the same 11:59:34 <Darkvater> yep 11:59:57 *** Dred_furst [~nn@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:05 <Bjarni> bye mr user 12:00:10 <Dred_furst`> lol 12:00:26 <XeryusTC> heya Bjarni :) 12:00:45 <Bjarni> damn Atari sucks 12:00:50 <Bjarni> at least their homepage 12:01:01 *** Dred_furst` is now known as Dred_furst 12:01:02 <hylje> hah 12:01:05 <Bjarni> I wanted to see screenshots of nwn 2, but then I had to register to do so 12:01:13 <Bjarni> ok, I did 12:01:19 <lolman> Lol unlucky :P 12:01:21 <Bjarni> now I get timeout when trying to log in 12:01:27 <Bjarni> everything else works 12:01:29 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01:31 <Bjarni> just not the login 12:01:54 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: nwn 2 is being published by atari? 12:02:00 <Bjarni> yes 12:02:09 <Bjarni> they will release it in a month or so 12:02:18 <Bjarni> http://www.atari.com/nwn2 12:02:18 <XeryusTC> never knew that :) 12:02:37 <Bjarni> maybe you can log in :p 12:02:52 <XeryusTC> why can i just view those screenshots? 12:03:12 <XeryusTC> well, some of them 12:03:19 *** Dred_furst [~nn@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 12:03:24 <XeryusTC> i cant view the galary though 12:03:48 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:03:50 <Bjarni> I think they are harvesting email addresses to send newsletters about the release to or something. Maybe getting countries as well 12:03:59 <Darkvater> wb mr user 12:04:01 <Dred_furst> There fixed 12:04:16 <Bjarni> Dred_furst: not here :p 12:04:29 <Dred_furst> o.o 12:04:32 <Bjarni> hmm 12:04:41 <Bjarni> safari can log in, but not firefox 12:04:44 <Bjarni> bad homepage :p 12:04:45 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: there's probably some big time spammer behind it so he can spam us with mail about penis enlargements 12:04:49 <Bjarni> Dred_furst: just kidding :p 12:04:56 <Dred_furst> lol :P 12:05:22 <Bjarni> XeryusTC: yeah, that's why I got a hotmail account for that kind of signup 12:05:31 <Bjarni> and it is getting spammed big time 12:06:02 <XeryusTC> my gmail is being spammed more then my hotmail nowadays :( 12:06:19 <Dred_furst> mine too 12:06:32 <Bjarni> I don't have gmail and I don't need one 12:06:33 <XeryusTC> and it's stupid that i cant find a option to set it to delete spam right away before sending it to the spam box 12:06:52 <Dred_furst> my spam filter is working ok ish 12:06:58 <Bjarni> I got the hotmail one for (spam)risky stuff and everything else goes to the uni account 12:06:59 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176110178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:07:03 <XeryusTC> nor do i know to which *@xeryustc.cjb.net it's being send, i could just block that one :( 12:07:13 <Dred_furst> I currently have 2125 spam emails in spam 12:07:18 <XeryusTC> lol 12:07:23 <XeryusTC> i only got ~50-70 12:07:34 <Dred_furst> Ive been getting it for months, majority goes in there 12:09:08 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 12:09:12 <Darkvater> gmail's spam filter is pretty good so far for me 12:09:16 <Darkvater> got about 200 spammails 12:09:19 *** fusee [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:32 <Darkvater> the funny thing is; about 40% of those are from the openttd maillist ;s 12:09:37 <XeryusTC> it's good, but i can't set it to delete it before sending it in the spam bin :( 12:10:01 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i never get spam :( 12:10:15 <XeryusTC> lucky bastard 12:10:21 <Eddi|zuHause> guess my university's spam filter is too good ;) 12:10:46 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 12:11:12 <Belugas> Damned logs... missing 10 minutes 12:11:20 <Belugas> what did I said so, Darkvater? 12:11:42 <Eddi|zuHause> to hide from Bjarni ;) 12:11:58 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 12:12:08 <Bjarni> I once complained to the data support guys at uni that my mail account were unusable due to 1-200 spammails each day. They didn't care so I spend a great deal of time writing my own in procmail 12:13:58 <Bjarni> those screenshots looks ok (nwn2), but they look like they were made on a quad 10 GHz system with tomorrows video card and maybe several of them in raid 12:14:18 <Bjarni> some of them looks more or less prerendered to me 12:14:24 <Patrick`> heh 12:14:30 <lolman> Bjarni: Octuple SLI or something? :P 12:14:33 <Patrick`> prerendered just means you have a very very low framerate 12:14:59 <Bjarni> well, that's an option too 12:15:30 <Belugas> I would NEVER say such a thing. Lies!!!! 12:15:44 <Belugas> well.. not in public, anyway ;) 12:15:51 <Belugas> going to the office... 12:15:52 <Belugas> see you soon 12:16:00 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:16:00 *** fusee is now known as fusey 12:18:01 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: the concept art looks better than the screenshots on the main page 12:18:34 <Bjarni> most likely 12:19:09 <Bjarni> but right now I'm downloading one of the videos and it's like they got a cap on bandwidth to each IP or something 12:19:21 <Bjarni> it have become very slow, but other homepages loads just fine 12:21:09 <lolman> Bjarni: might just be a crap/overloaded server 12:21:42 <lolman> But bandwidth limits are a possibility... 12:22:40 <Bjarni> hehe, now it all of a sudden decided to double my bandwidth for a few sec while I downloaded a large image 12:23:06 <Bjarni> I had to wait say 30 sec for it to start though 12:37:25 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2849.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:32 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 12:40:15 *** wohnout [~m14-328@235.125.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:42:16 *** fusee [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:30 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-15477.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:42:52 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:42:52 *** fusee is now known as fusey 12:44:22 <Darkvater> Born_Acorn: what is your avatar? I'm bored and browsing the forums and your avatar has had me puzzled for most of the day now 12:44:40 *** Guest56 [Gono@N829P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:44:54 <Darkvater> some tranformer/mega-bot thingie or is it some closeup of a combine? 12:44:58 <Darkvater> spaceship? 12:45:03 <Darkvater> truck? 12:45:21 <Tron_> Darkvater: it's a commander from Total Annihilation 12:45:40 <Darkvater> ah.. 12:46:20 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:26 <Born_Acorn> Tron_ knows his stuff! 12:47:08 <Tron_> of course i do 12:47:22 <Tron_> btw: there's a really nice TA clone with a 3D engine 12:48:20 <wohnout> i dont like 3D engine 12:48:23 <wohnout> this is better 12:48:48 <lolman> 3d sucks when you have 2d :-D 12:49:14 <Zavior> I've always wondered 12:49:19 <Zavior> Is it born a corn 12:49:23 <Zavior> or born acorn 12:49:34 <Zavior> Ta: spring is nice, ye 12:50:09 <lolman> Zavior: It's Born Acorn, that's his name on tt-forums at least 12:50:32 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N925P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:20 <stillunknown> has anyone ever had a city in ottd (developed in a natural way) with 100.000 inhabitants? 12:52:15 <Zavior> That would take very long :| 12:52:50 <lolman> Is it even possible? 12:53:19 <stillunknown> i have one with 35000, but 100000 is still a long way 12:53:28 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has left #openttd [] 12:54:40 <Born_Acorn> Supreme Commander is the un-official sequel. Can't wait. 12:55:33 <stillunknown> let's hope it's not the spiritual brother of locomotion :-) 13:02:50 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-15477.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:02:53 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:03:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i got 50000 without doing much, but 100000 i cannot remember 13:05:30 <Zavior> Born_Acorn, yeah 13:05:37 <Zavior> It even has dual screen support! 13:05:38 <Zavior> ;> 13:05:43 <Born_Acorn> And dual Core! 13:05:54 <Zavior> Many games already have that (: 13:06:13 <Born_Acorn> well yes, but woo anyway 13:06:19 <Zavior> :D 13:08:34 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:10:26 <Bjarni> <Tron_> btw: there's a really nice TA clone with a 3D engine <-- name/URL? 13:10:28 <lolman> Oh Noes! 13:10:48 <lolman> It's Sacro! 13:10:50 * lolman runs 13:11:38 <Sacro> lolman: yes, my laptop broke :( 13:11:48 <lolman> Sacro: completely? 13:11:51 <stillunknown> http://taspring.clan-sy.com 13:12:11 <Sacro> lolman: well, almost, it will occasionaly go for about 10 mins 13:12:30 <Sacro> mums pc now has firefox, hydrairc 13:12:34 <lolman> Sacro: time for a new one methinks :) 13:12:49 <lolman> Anyways, I'm gone for a reboot 13:12:51 <lolman> brb :) 13:13:09 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15:27 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 13:15:35 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:15:43 <lolman> Nice quick reboot :-D 13:15:46 <Zavior> Bjarni, ta: spring 13:16:00 <Bjarni> I figured that out based on the link ;) 13:16:28 <Bjarni> no OSX port.... 13:16:33 <Bjarni> crappy software :p 13:19:51 <ln-> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/08/16/1225239.shtml 13:21:24 <Bjarni> hehe 13:21:59 <guru3> i'm in favor of loosing caps lock too 13:22:00 <Patrick`> mmm, taspring 13:22:18 <Bjarni> that reminds me of when my sister was 8 or something like that. She came home from school and said that they had written on the computers and the one they had broke so it could only write uppercase 13:22:42 <Bjarni> for a fee of say EUR10, would be able to fix that computer 13:22:49 <guru3> hrhrhr 13:23:04 <Kjetil> *remaps CapsLock to something useful* 13:23:13 <Bjarni> never got the offer though 13:23:18 <guru3> it's useful for testing if the keyboard works 13:23:21 <guru3> turning the light on and off 13:23:57 <Patrick`> indeed 13:23:59 <Patrick`> that's what I do 13:23:59 <Bjarni> oh I once saw a useful feature for capslock. In a game, it controlled an on/off feature. Kind of like if OTTD controlled fast forward with caps lock 13:24:16 <Patrick`> however, it'll be handy for remapping the super key (windows key) 13:24:17 <Bjarni> think of it. If we move fast forward to when there is light in the keyboard... 13:24:26 <Bjarni> only useful thing to use it for though 13:24:26 <Patrick`> since I plan on getting and IBM model M 13:24:45 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:56 <Bjarni> <guru3> it's useful for testing if the keyboard works <-- and you can't use scrolllock for that? 13:25:04 <Bjarni> or numlock 13:25:20 <XeryusTC> i use capslock to use caps in important signs ;) 13:25:36 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 13:25:48 <guru3> mm 13:25:56 <guru3> scroll lock tends to do funky stuff when testing 13:26:00 <guru3> esp if you have a kvm 13:26:34 <ln-> THEY ARE RIGHT, CAPS LOCK IS QUITE USELESS... 13:27:56 <Kjetil> ">" -- wee seperate keys for lesser than and greater than. Caps lock is finally usefull 13:28:07 <guru3> lol 13:29:52 <Bjarni> hahaha. I just saw a guy mentioning that the thread have gone off topic... the tread is in the off topic forum and it's not moved 13:30:48 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: even threads in the off topic section tend to go off topic sometimes 13:32:01 <lolman> XeryusTC: isn't that the idea of an off-topic section? 13:38:07 <stillunknown> but a thread in offtopic (forum) can still be ontopic about a subject 13:38:44 <XeryusTC> the idea of an off topic section is to have a place where topics can go that dont fit in any other sections 13:39:00 <XeryusTC> not to hold threads that become off topic after a while 13:40:15 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 13:41:37 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26318 <-- interesting 13:41:54 <peter1138> is it? 13:42:15 <peter1138> "true" or "trucated" ? 13:42:37 <Bjarni> well, what do you think? 13:42:40 <OwenS> Ive seen them before 13:42:44 <Bjarni> is it possible to do? 13:42:46 <OwenS> Theyre really just wallpapers :P 13:42:50 <peter1138> yes 13:43:00 <peter1138> well, transparent LCDs are perfectly possible 13:43:12 <peter1138> e.g. projectors... 13:43:35 <OwenS> Projectors are just like a normal LED with the backlight on steroids :P 13:43:50 <peter1138> ... 13:44:00 <Bjarni> the thing is, it's possible to make that and I have seen such a notebook. It was designed to remove the rear screen cover and then place the monitor on top of an overhead projector instead of using a VGA projector 13:44:11 <peter1138> Bjarni: exactly :) 13:44:31 <OwenS> Yes, but doesn't black become transparent? 13:44:39 <peter1138> yes. so/ 13:44:43 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 13:44:53 <Bjarni> I'm not really sure they got a big future though. They miss backlight if you use it as a regular notebook in conditions where you lack proper lighting 13:45:25 <SpComb> and it's probably a bit fragile 13:45:30 <Bjarni> <OwenS> Yes, but doesn't black become transparent? <-- I got to get one then. I use black as background colour in IRC :D 13:45:51 <Bjarni> that way I can chat and look out of the window at the same time 13:45:52 <peter1138> actually 13:45:55 <Bjarni> or similar 13:46:14 <peter1138> black may be black 13:46:26 <Bjarni> white is transparent 13:46:29 <peter1138> yes 13:46:34 <Bjarni> at least that is what my logics tells me 13:46:37 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-20-243.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 13:46:39 <OwenS> Nah, Black is the crystals rotated to be transparent, thus showing a black backing normally 13:46:49 <Bjarni> so I will get a black screen with transparent letters 13:46:49 <peter1138> no 13:46:53 <OwenS> Or something like that (GHow does an LCD work?) 13:47:01 <peter1138> if it was transparent, it would let the backlight show through 13:47:22 <OwenS> Hmm, white would be transparent 13:47:38 <OwenS> Transparent backgrounds ftw! 13:47:40 <OwenS> Buut 13:47:50 <OwenS> You would get every other colour translucent 13:48:09 <Bjarni> I just got an idea. Using two screens in front of each other to create 3D 13:48:50 <OwenS> How does that work? 13:49:00 <Bjarni> lol 13:49:16 <mikk36_> Bjarni, u can create 3D view with 1 screen too 13:49:20 <Bjarni> it was a joke 13:49:28 <mikk36_> but u need cameras for that 13:49:28 <Bjarni> I know 13:49:28 <OwenS> Specially because the background stuff would show through :P 13:49:37 <OwenS> "u"? Gah! 13:49:42 <mikk36_> to find ur viewing position 13:49:52 <OwenS> "ur"? Where is my axe? 13:50:09 <peter1138> i stole it 13:50:11 <Bjarni> I once saw a guy using a notebook and another guy walked passed, took the monitor and moved it back and forth and said "look, he got 3D" 13:50:19 <peter1138> to remove letter from words 13:50:26 <peter1138> because clearly it's cool, or something 13:50:51 <Bjarni> OwenS: we broke some of mikk36_'s keys to get you to kill him 13:50:55 <Bjarni> don't tell him though 13:50:59 <OwenS> Ooh 13:51:12 <Bjarni> we need him to think that you are just a random mean guy 13:51:13 <OwenS> Ill get my knife :evil: 13:51:16 <Bjarni> he is used to that 13:51:44 <Bjarni> all his friends in the mafia do stuff like that 13:51:50 * OwenS Sneaks up behind with a knife... 13:51:53 <Bjarni> at random 13:52:05 * OwenS .. Pulls out a SC20K shotgun ... 13:52:20 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 13:52:22 * OwenS ... Fires at mikk36_'s head at point blank 13:52:34 <OwenS> Oooh errr, messy 13:53:11 <mikk36_> don't even try to scratch my head 13:53:14 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 13:53:32 <OwenS> Dude, I just pumped a hot slug of leat at it! 13:53:51 <OwenS> You should be dead.. 13:53:56 <lolman> leat? 13:54:02 <OwenS> lead 13:54:09 <lolman> you tried ho hax0r his head? :p 13:54:11 <lolman> to* 13:54:22 <OwenS> No, I shot my shotgun at it ^^ 13:54:44 *** Azra`el [~1003@h69-130-236-47.69-130.unk.tds.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:56 <lolman> You waited too long, he dodged it :P 13:55:08 *** Azra`el [~1003@h69-130-236-47.69-130.unk.tds.net] has left #openttd [] 13:55:31 <OwenS> I was right behind him... 13:55:31 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 13:56:16 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQF0GVA8DU <-- hahaha 13:56:22 <lolman> Whoever said that made it completely undodgeable? (: 14:00:01 <lolman> Anyhow, I'm off for a bit :) 14:01:58 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:51 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 14:06:58 <MeusH> hello 14:10:58 <Sacro> hey MeusH 14:12:20 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:29 *** jp [~chatzilla@208.156-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 14:18:05 *** UE|sleepingtiem [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:21:03 *** jp [~chatzilla@208.156-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006042403]] 14:23:29 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 14:24:12 *** UserErr0r [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:41 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 14:36:10 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:37 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2291.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 14:44:20 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 14:46:50 <Darkvater> < home 14:47:10 <lolman> < back :P 14:47:12 <hylje> you mean, home is > you ? :< 14:47:21 <pv2b> i'd hope so 14:47:51 <pv2b> the home needs to be larger than you, otherwise you won't fit 14:48:16 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:49:29 * lolman hates downloading 150MB on GPRS 14:52:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:52:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:54:30 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:25 *** ArchSSM [~SSM@nordland-static58.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 14:59:40 <lolman> Somehow I reckon I'll be up late tonight... 15:03:25 *** MeusH_ [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 15:03:37 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:43 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Och aye!] 15:04:25 <lolman> MeusH: wb 15:04:34 *** Tron__ [xdzNFRVQ@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 15:04:40 *** [1]Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:05:22 *** Netsplit helium.oftc.net <-> nova.oftc.net quits: DaleStan__, dp-, Tron_, Sacro, MeusH[away], valhalla1w, scia, wohnout, Prof_Frink, @Rubidium, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 15:05:22 *** [1]Sacro is now known as Sacro 15:05:32 <lolman> Netsplit!! 15:05:48 <pv2b> lol, man 15:05:54 *** Netsplit over, joins: Tron 15:05:54 <Sacro> Sacro: GET OFF MY NICK :o 15:05:59 <Sacro> err... 15:06:13 <Sacro> you didnt see that 15:06:18 <lolman> Lol 15:06:22 <lolman> Ya plank :P 15:06:24 * Sacro wistles and walks off 15:06:28 <OwenS> rofl :) 15:06:45 * OwenS hits Sacro with a large trout 15:06:48 * pv2b gazes curiously at Sacro 15:06:51 * Sacro slaps OwenS's bottom and grins cheekily 15:07:02 <Sacro> im gonna stop using /slap 15:07:07 * OwenS headshots Sacro with a sniper rifle 15:07:19 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:46 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:07:47 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 15:08:00 * lolman hits Sacro with a baseball bat 15:08:03 <lolman> :-D 15:08:03 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2C8B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:08 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:08:10 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 15:08:15 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:09:05 <lolman> wb you lot...unlucky @ netsplit :P 15:09:36 <Sacro> hmm, hyrda just moved me servers 15:10:21 <lolman> 4% of 150 meg done...*sighs* 15:11:30 <lolman> I think this is gonna take a while... 15:12:02 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 15:14:24 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:15:30 * Sacro slaps lolman with a large smelly trout 15:15:54 * lolman grabs trout and shoves it in Sacro's mouth 15:16:06 <OwenS> Eww, nasty 15:16:13 <OwenS> Has it gone off? 15:16:23 * Sacro looks at purchasing a POS 15:16:31 <lolman> OwenS: yes, I need to wash me hands now... 15:16:37 <lolman> Oh, the fish? I dunno... 15:16:42 <OwenS> Peice of shit? 15:16:46 <Sacro> OwenS: yes, think he has...*washes trout* 15:16:50 <ArchSSM> Does anyone know if there will be a merging with the test releases and the nightly builds soon? 15:17:08 <Sacro> ArchSSM: buh? 15:17:11 <OwenS> Test releases? 15:17:34 <lolman> I think he means MiniIN, Bridges, TGP etc 15:17:40 <ArchSSM> exactly :) 15:17:45 <ArchSSM> thanks, lolman 15:17:45 <Sacro> but which nightly? 15:17:48 <Sacro> HEAD? 15:17:55 <ArchSSM> ehm... nightly builds in general 15:18:08 <ArchSSM> I have the test edt. for TGP but its very buggy 15:18:10 <OwenS> Sacro: HEAD is CVS, SVN has trunk ;) 15:18:14 <Sacro> well, none of em are due for a merge with trunk 15:18:19 *** wohnout [~m14-328@235.125.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:18:21 * Sacro dusts off a kitchen towel and slaps it at OwenS 15:18:29 <OwenS> I thought TGP was happening sometime soon though 15:18:30 <Tron__> Sacro: HEAD is just a symbolic name for the most recent revision of the repository 15:18:43 *** Tron__ is now known as Tron_ 15:18:43 * Sacro gives Tron__ a clout round the head with a fresh copy of HydraIRC 15:18:44 * OwenS sticks a knife in Sacro's left eye 15:18:49 * Sacro breaks out the slapping rod and looks sternly at Sacro 15:19:00 <ArchSSM> so... If I wish to play TGP with the 'latest edt' .. is there a version later than the test version linked from the frontpage? 15:19:01 <lolman> LOL 15:19:13 <lolman> ArchSSM: not yet 15:19:14 * OwenS pokes out Sacro's other eye 15:19:24 <ArchSSM> ok... thanks for your time :) 15:19:27 * Sacro gives HewlettPackard a clout round the head with a fresh copy of HydraIRC 15:19:49 * lws1984 clouts Hewlett Packard with irssi 15:19:50 <Sacro> ArchSSM: im not sure how far off merging TGP is 15:19:51 * lolman clobbers Sacro round the head with a new copy of Konversation 15:20:55 <OwenS> Bjarni, MiHaMiX, orudge, TrueLight, care to elaborate on this? 15:21:13 <Bjarni> elaborate what? 15:21:32 <OwenS> (16:19:49) Sacro: ArchSSM: im not sure how far off merging TGP is 15:21:32 * Sacro slaps Bjarni's bottom and grins cheekily 15:21:39 <lolman> ArshSSM was asking when TGP was going to be merged with trunk 15:21:46 * orudge would not know, alas 15:21:55 <Bjarni> * OwenS pokes out Sacro's other eye <-- due to lack of stuff to elaborate, I will pick this line to explain. I presume that you want Sacro to go blind 15:22:15 <lws1984> no, we just like to piss him off! 15:22:17 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [don't do that] 15:22:17 <OwenS> I quote what I said to elaborate on again: (16:21:31) OwenS: (16:19:49) Sacro: ArchSSM: im not sure how far off merging TGP is 15:22:27 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:22:33 <Sacro> ooh, auto rejoin 15:22:38 <Bjarni> well 15:22:40 <lws1984> 'tis evil 15:22:44 * lolman slaps Bjarni some more 15:22:53 *** lolman was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [LOL] 15:23:01 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 15:23:07 *** Ammler [~marcel@69.152.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 15:23:11 <lolman> :-D 15:23:34 <Bjarni> OwenS: well, it's more or less ready to be merged once it's approved by the relevant people 15:23:44 <OwenS> ArchSSM: Theres your answer :) 15:23:51 <ArchSSM> thanks :) 15:23:51 * Sacro approvesit 15:23:54 <ArchSSM> I can't wait :) 15:24:21 <Sacro> $me->getShower(); 15:24:21 * OwenS wonders how Sacro is reading this... TTS? 15:24:29 <Bjarni> the question is if something turns up to delay it 15:24:36 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:24:41 <Bjarni> there is a reason why it's not approved to be merged yet 15:25:02 <Bjarni> mainly lack of time to look at it :p 15:25:13 <OwenS> pIRC->getServer("oftc")->getChannel("#openttd")->getPerson("sacro")->strangle(STRENGTH_PAINFUL); 15:26:06 * lolman will brb 15:26:08 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has joined #openttd 15:27:35 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:35:43 * lolman jumps up and down in excitement :-D 15:36:35 * lws1984 places a brick above lolman 15:36:53 * lolman chits head on brick but keeps jumping 15:36:57 <lolman> hits* 15:37:04 * lws1984 adds a bomb 15:37:07 * OwenS superglues nails to bottom of brick 15:37:18 * lws1984 removes the bomb 15:37:30 * lolman defuses bumb 15:37:32 <lolman> bomb* 15:37:55 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:38:02 * lolman stops jumping 15:38:40 *** ArchSSM [~SSM@nordland-static58.bluecom.no] has quit [] 15:38:58 * lolman IS moving...in 15 days :-D 15:39:09 <peter1138> i'm moving in... 2 days 15:39:23 <lolman> peter1138: nice one! :) 15:39:28 <peter1138> first house :D 15:40:03 <lolman> Hehe 15:40:16 <lolman> I'll still be with parents...but...10Mb Cable! :-D 15:40:57 <lolman> I'll be free of GPRS! \o/ 15:44:59 <OwenS> I'm going 16MBit ADSL soon :) 15:45:53 <lolman> OwenS: Lol 15:46:03 <lolman> I assure you, 10Mb is a HUGE step from what I have 15:46:08 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2291.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: edgepro: There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on.] 15:46:14 <Mucht|work> Not sure if some devs noticed yesterday: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/2006/08/15/a-small-bugreport/ 15:46:23 <Mucht|work> I posted it quite late in here ;-) 15:47:59 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 15:49:21 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:50:00 <Patrick`> you had better put it into the flyspray tracker if you want anyone to pay attention 15:51:27 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:51:33 <Bjarni> also, why was I not informed? 15:51:54 <Sacro> err...hmm 15:51:54 <Bjarni> I wrote this and I know how to fix this 15:52:06 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52:10 *** MeusH_ is now known as MeusH 15:52:17 <MeusH> lol lolman 15:52:49 <lolman> MeusH: 5KB/s to 1200KB/s...not a small gap that :) 15:53:08 <MeusH> what are you talking about? 15:53:26 <Bjarni> you use a modem? 15:53:31 <Tron_> hm, it works for me 15:53:45 <Bjarni> the clone or modem thing? 15:53:51 <Tron_> cloned trains and the costs are accounted correctly 15:54:11 <Tron_> both using the clone button of the depot and of the vehicle window 15:55:39 <Bjarni> ahh, I think I know why 15:55:59 <Bjarni> SET_EXPENSES_TYPE() is not used, so it just uses the last thing you did, in your case build the first vehicle 15:56:06 <Bjarni> I presumed that was the issue and it is 15:56:28 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 15:56:37 <Bjarni> or... 15:56:45 <Bjarni> it should be set in the build commands... 15:57:31 <Bjarni> works here 15:58:09 <Bjarni> yeah, I removed the SET_EXPENSES_TYPE() when I made it rely on the build commands to set it. Now I remember 15:58:17 <Bjarni> it should not really fail.... 15:59:19 <Bjarni> Mucht|zZz: you need to tell us more about your "bug" if we are to do anything about it, like what version are you using and is it MiniIN and so on 16:00:01 *** Tron_ [xdzNFRVQ@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:26 *** Tron_ [yKycAkZ8@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 16:02:49 <peter1138> it takes a special kind of person to post a software bug report on their own blog... 16:05:16 <Sacro> wtf is a pentium D 16:05:29 <peter1138> laptop variant 16:05:58 <Sacro> so why is it in all these desktops 16:06:09 <Sacro> but then my laptop has a desktop p3 16:06:11 <Sacro> *p4 16:06:52 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-83-100-201-97.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different] 16:09:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:09:33 <mikk36_> Pentium D is dual-core P4 16:09:40 <mikk36_> nothing else 16:10:16 <mikk36_> Intel Core is the new mobile cpu 16:10:26 <mikk36_> which now has a new version called Core2 16:11:09 <mikk36_> last mobile cpu before Core was Pentium M 16:12:38 <peter1138> hmm 16:17:23 <stillunknown> but Core2Duo is also a desktop platform, to replace the netburst cpu's 16:17:49 <mikk36_> yes 16:17:55 <mikk36_> Core2 is for all :) 16:18:04 <mikk36_> all in all good architecture 16:18:06 <mikk36_> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium_d.htm 16:18:14 <mikk36_> just try to put one of these into a laptop :P 16:19:31 <stillunknown> i wouldn't put a E6*00 into a notebook eitheer 16:19:35 <stillunknown> *either 16:19:39 <izhirahider> I've started to notice this a few days ago, when I move the mouse cursor really fast in OpenTTD, the mouse cursor seems to lag/jump. Any tips I can follow to make it faster? (Using revision 5928) 16:19:39 <mikk36_> why not ? :) 16:20:10 <stillunknown> the T series will be more suited to notebooks 16:20:17 <mikk36_> yeah 16:20:22 <mikk36_> but it's still c2 :) 16:20:43 <mikk36_> oh 16:20:47 <mikk36_> u mean Core1 ? 16:20:48 <mikk36_> hehe 16:20:56 <stillunknown> core2 will have a T series as well 16:21:08 <mikk36_> yeah 16:22:01 <stillunknown> i'm curious what happens when amd releases their k8l core 16:22:14 <mikk36_> :) 16:24:24 *** MeusH_ [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:24:38 *** MeusH_ [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [] 16:24:56 <MeusH> huh? 16:29:40 *** Maedhros_ [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:10 <Mucht|zZz> Bjarni: we use r5794 with a set of additional grfs 16:30:33 *** Tron_ [yKycAkZ8@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:18 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 16:31:34 <glx> Mucht: it's an old one :) 16:32:01 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Maedhros_))] 16:32:04 *** Maedhros_ is now known as Maedhros 16:34:30 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:38:31 <Bjarni> yeah, it's an old one, but it should have worked anyway 16:38:44 <Bjarni> go ahead and try again to see what happens 16:38:59 <Bjarni> also try to update. We fix stuff all the time 16:39:31 <Bjarni> bug reports aren't really useful if it is an old version. We might have fixed it in the meantime ;) 16:39:34 <Sacro_> damnnit, weebls stuff now uses flash 8 :( 16:39:41 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 16:57:16 *** Ammler is now known as Ammler_eating 16:58:53 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 16:59:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host187-62.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 16:59:30 <Wolf01> here 17:00:28 <mikk36_> there ? 17:00:54 <Bjarni> what's there in Italy? 17:01:30 <guru3> everywhere? 17:02:12 <Wolf01> is mostly cloud 17:04:26 <Bjarni> Italy is a cloud? 17:04:41 <Bjarni> who vaporised it? 17:04:41 <Bjarni> Bush? 17:05:08 <Wolf01> i'm on the clouds 17:05:17 <Bjarni> you died? 17:05:18 <Wolf01> over the italy 17:06:28 <Wolf01> no, i'm trying to wake up after an intense day of work 17:06:46 <Wolf01> and my brain is away from the body 17:07:47 <lolman> brb 17:07:50 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08:30 <Wolf01> ok, now i can link together basicly ideas 17:08:33 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 17:08:51 <Wolf01> *s/basicly/basic 17:16:24 <Bjarni> oh 17:16:34 <Bjarni> so walking to the kitchen is linked to eating? 17:17:02 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:05 <Wolf01> yes, something like it 17:19:09 <ln-> what does "??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ????- ???? ?? ????? ???," mean? 17:20:20 <ln-> probably something important, it is from a spam email. 17:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> looks kinda hebrew or something 17:21:29 <Sacro> ln-: probably some arabic girl/guy wants to sleep with you 17:21:37 <Eddi|zuHause> no, not arabic 17:22:10 <MeusH> is GetStationByTile(tile)->index or just GetStationByTile(tile) a StationID? 17:22:29 <ln-> Sacro: it's hebrew, don't you see? 17:22:55 <Bjarni> I see garbage 17:23:08 <hylje> its utf8 foo 17:23:08 <Bjarni> some people might see that as letters, but all I see is garbage 17:23:19 <Bjarni> I know that 17:23:21 <MeusH> I see garbage letters 17:23:25 <Wolf01> now i see letters :) 17:23:27 <MeusH> they have nothing to OpenTTD 17:23:28 <Bjarni> still looks like garbage to me :p 17:23:39 <Bjarni> is that even real letters? 17:23:56 <Belugas> i definitivelt see hebrew characters 17:23:57 <MeusH> some say these are real 17:24:03 <MeusH> but imo it's plastic fake :P 17:24:20 <Bjarni> some say Father Christmas is real 17:24:33 <MeusH> it's my dad, don't you know? 17:24:35 <Bjarni> but he is just your father dressing up 17:24:38 <MeusH> yeah 17:24:42 <MeusH> clever boy 17:24:48 <Bjarni> just like the devil. He is not real either 17:25:00 <MeusH> don't you have mother in law? :P 17:25:16 <Bjarni> still looking for one 17:25:35 <MeusH> at least you're not alone... 17:25:36 <Bjarni> if you know what I mean 17:25:38 <MeusH> I'm wondering 17:25:47 <stillunknown> i was wondering if showing the amount of energy is a trunk feature or not? (using the miniin) 17:25:57 <stillunknown> (coal power station) 17:26:13 <Bjarni> <MeusH> I'm wondering <-- bragging again, eh :P 17:26:13 <MeusH> most girls I know have boyfriends. But a guy with a girlfriend is rarity 17:26:21 <hylje> more boys than girls 17:26:27 <MeusH> either I know too much girls or girls lie :) 17:26:36 <Bjarni> omg. We turned into China o_O 17:26:54 <MeusH> I turned into Alaska :F 17:27:12 <MeusH> allright 17:27:16 <MeusH> ahem 17:27:16 <Bjarni> cold on the outside and icy on the inside? 17:27:18 <MeusH> ahem 17:27:19 <MeusH> is GetStationByTile(tile)->index or just GetStationByTile(tile) a StationID? 17:27:26 <Bjarni> no wonder you lack female company 17:27:29 <MeusH> Bjarni: vice-versa 17:27:33 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 17:27:55 <MeusH> Bjarni, you can drive someone mad 17:28:05 <MeusH> You make me sad sometimes 17:28:10 <Bjarni> oh 17:28:14 <hylje> why you said that 17:28:21 <hylje> bjarni will just attempt to be even more lame 17:28:24 <Bjarni> that's not intentional 17:28:31 <Bjarni> just a bonus :p 17:28:33 <MeusH> anyway, is GetStationByTile(tile)->index a StationID, or just GetStationByTile(tile) is a StationID? 17:28:53 <Bjarni> actually why did that make you sad? 17:29:30 <MeusH> because I don't have a girlfriend and you insist it is because I'm "cold and icy", but I just joked about the Alaska 17:29:59 <Bjarni> ... 17:30:14 <Bjarni> I didn't mean it like that 17:30:18 <Bjarni> and how should I know how you are in real life? 17:30:27 <MeusH> I hoped so 17:30:34 <MeusH> well you just don't know it 17:30:35 <lolman> Ello :) 17:30:40 <MeusH> hey lolman 17:30:50 <MeusH> but no worries Bjarni I'm fine :) 17:30:57 <lolman> Ello MeusH :) 17:30:58 <Bjarni> good 17:31:03 <Bjarni> and now lolman showed up 17:31:08 <MeusH> anyway, is GetStationByTile(tile)->index a StationID, or just GetStationByTile(tile) is a StationID? 17:31:12 <Bjarni> at least he will laugh when being used in a joke 17:31:21 <Bjarni> instead of getting sad 17:31:34 <lolman> Bjarni: I always laugh ;-) 17:31:37 <Bjarni> see 17:32:18 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> lolman: now you die 17:32:18 <Bjarni> <lolman> lol 17:32:35 <Tron> MeusH: the thing which isn't a pointer of course 17:32:40 <lolman> You wish you could kill me ;-) 17:32:52 <Bjarni> no I don't 17:32:55 <MeusH> Tron, so ->index is a StationID? 17:32:57 <MeusH> thanks 17:33:14 <lolman> Bjarni: well it isn't particularly hard to :P 17:33:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77588.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:33:33 <Bjarni> you are dying? 17:33:41 <Tron> MeusH: yes, and you're doing it complicated 17:33:42 <MeusH> it would be lame if I said "that's exacly what I thought", but it's like real 17:33:46 <lolman> Nooo lol 17:33:51 <Bjarni> remember to open the windows once in a while to get air 17:33:55 <Tron> MeusH: GetStationIndex() 17:34:14 <lolman> Bjarni: it's always open when it's not raining or cold 17:34:38 <stillunknown> do "trunk" powerplants also show production? 17:34:57 <MeusH> thank you Tron :] 17:35:38 <MeusH> but I see there is an assert 17:35:45 <MeusH> what if the tile isn't a station? 17:36:07 <Tron> it asserts, of course 17:36:14 <Bjarni> oh that reminds me. During the SARS thing, a Chinese family sealed them off from the outside world to save themselves. They got food for months and sealed off the door and windows airtight to prevent SARS from getting in. After a while the neighbours had to break in to get them out into the fresh air or they would have died 17:36:21 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:21 <Tron> you can't get the station index of a tile, which isn't a station 17:36:24 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:36:25 <Maedhros> is anyone else suspicious of http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26847 ? 17:36:28 <Bjarni> they sealed themselves a bit to well from the outside world 17:36:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77511.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:58 <MeusH> allright, I'll change the code and check it soon 17:36:59 <MeusH> thanks again 17:37:21 <lolman> Bjarni: ouch 17:37:44 <lolman> Hmm I need to reconnect...brb 17:37:49 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:41 <Bjarni> Maedhros: what should be wrong with it? virus? spyware? 17:38:46 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 17:38:57 <Bjarni> anyway it's easier just to edit the cfg file by hand 17:39:01 <Bjarni> it's fairly simple 17:39:14 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:39:40 * lolman kicks T-Mobile 17:39:43 <Maedhros> Bjarni: i don't use windows, so i'm not expecting it to work for me :-P 17:39:54 <Maedhros> Bjarni: i just can't see anything related to openttd on that page 17:40:32 <Bjarni> heh 17:40:38 <Bjarni> didn't really look for that 17:41:20 <Bjarni> and I don't really care either. If people starts to download 3rd party apps, then it's their issue, not mine if it breaks anything 17:44:32 <stillunknown> is there a way to connect depots, so they work like stationplatforms (chosen based on occupancy)? 17:45:37 <Sacro_> "Change the .pdf to .exe and voila! got the installer" <--- /me worries 17:45:56 <lolman> Sacro? 17:46:07 <Bjarni> stillunknown: no, but I wondered about making such a feature 17:46:11 <Bjarni> it's not trivial though 17:46:24 <lolman> That looks very dodgy... 17:47:15 * Sacro_ considers writing a grf manager in gtk 17:47:35 <Sacro_> ottdalter! 17:47:57 <lws1984> *snicker* 17:47:58 <lolman> Sacro_: Nah just do one to change the newgrf settings :P 17:48:13 <lolman> (Oh and to help newbs copy the data files) ;-0 17:48:15 <lolman> ;-)* 17:48:18 <Sacro_> well i know windows has a GTK port, does OSX? 17:48:45 <MeusH> Bjarni: The first part would be making a station and setting IsDepot = true 17:49:31 <hylje> Sacro_: OSX has X11, thus GTK 17:49:45 <Bjarni> Sacro_: why would you want that? 17:50:02 <Sacro_> Bjarni: what? OSX? 17:50:19 <Bjarni> GTK on OSX 17:50:41 <Sacro_> for a shiny newgrf/cfg manager 17:50:43 <Bjarni> it should be possible, but it's not the fastest or nicest solution 17:50:48 <Bjarni> ahh 17:51:13 <lws1984> ooh.. aqua 17:51:23 <Bjarni> the idea is to make it in the main menu eventually 17:51:33 <Bjarni> then no porting is needed since the game is already ported 17:52:01 <Sacro_> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/16/london_high/ f me :| thought it was warm today 17:52:16 <Bjarni> so why do you show up with another plan, that will undermine our long term plan? 17:52:38 <Bjarni> are you trying to ruin our project or something? 17:53:15 <lolman> Bjarni: I thought that was Sacro_'s job? 17:53:20 <Sacro_> :o 17:53:22 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 17:53:25 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 17:53:37 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 17:54:46 <Bjarni> hehe, that register story reminds me of some EMUs we got here. They got prerecorded messages (next station and so on) and it's funny when they hit the wrong one 17:55:09 <Bjarni> like in the middle of the summer "all rail traffic is slightly delayed due to snow on the tracks" 17:55:17 <OwenS> O.o 17:56:04 <Bjarni> or "the train is stopped because of a missing signal"... missing signal... did somebody steal it? 17:56:12 <lws1984> *snicker* 17:56:24 <Bjarni> it actually means missing signal permission to continue (usually green) 17:56:37 <Bjarni> but most people don't know that 17:57:22 <Bjarni> I mean people usually don't know that it's a valid sentence ;) 17:57:40 * Sacro considers nipping down to the station, and swapping a green filter for a red one... 17:58:06 <Bjarni> that would be considered terrorism and you will be jailed for years 17:58:14 <Sacro> terrorism? 17:58:28 <OwenS> Since it would most likely result in deaths 17:58:41 <OwenS> Unless you did it on a TGV line, they have no signals :P 17:59:00 <Bjarni> external signals are useless @ 400 km/h 17:59:50 <Bjarni> usually a green light will still brake the train because the electronics will still detect it as red 18:00:13 <hylje> so.. rig the electronics 18:00:23 <Bjarni> that's kind of hard to do 18:00:40 <Bjarni> you see, they are on the train 18:00:50 <lolman> Or you just leave the line with no signals and hope no trains break down 18:00:55 <MeusH> please, someone tell me more about implicit declaration of function 18:01:07 <Bjarni> and they will brake if they don't give the ok signal, so braking/removing it will stop the train as well 18:01:37 <Bjarni> MeusH: you use a function without declaring it (usually in a header file) 18:01:51 <MeusH> thanks 18:01:59 <Bjarni> and then it's a warning when it happens and a linker error if it fails to find the function at linking time 18:02:13 <OwenS> I find GCC allowing that infuriating... 18:02:24 <Bjarni> I don't 18:02:33 <OwenS> Why? 18:03:14 <Bjarni> once in a while I do a quick hack to see if something will work and then I don't care to include/modify all the header files, so I get shitloads of warnings, but I can see if the result acts in the right direction and if it works before making it nice 18:03:25 <Bjarni> and it gives you a warning after all 18:03:46 <hylje> :o 18:04:03 <OwenS> Yes, but on occasion ive forgot to correct said warnings and ended up with it failing under more strict ccs... 18:05:03 <Bjarni> then you just forget to check for warnings, which is generally a bad thing :p 18:05:15 <glx> useful to add temp debug stuff 18:05:35 <Bjarni> like declarations after statements warnings... it breaks compilation on windows, but not gcc 18:05:37 <Bjarni> bbl 18:05:47 <OwenS> Bjarni: When it's compiling faster than the terminal scrolls it's not easy to notice 18:06:09 <Bjarni> then disable verbose :p 18:06:39 <OwenS> No, just file listings 18:09:05 <Sacro> http://www.scan.co.uk/images/products/437051.jpg now THATS cooling 18:11:34 * lolman decides to install DamnSmallLinux on his Pentium 2 18:11:52 <Sacro> lolman: Arch FTW! 18:12:15 <lolman> Sacro: I'm a total n00b ;-) 18:12:22 <Sacro> lolman: yes...you are 18:12:36 <lolman> Plus a copy of DamnSmall came on the DVD you sent :P 18:12:40 <Sacro> did it? 18:12:47 <lolman> Yeah, in ISO form 18:13:39 <Sacro> ooh so it does 18:13:41 <Sacro> and RIP too 18:13:46 <lolman> Yeah 18:14:20 <lolman> Only had one blank CD though, so I burned DSL 18:14:34 <MeusH> Bjarni: seems all required header files are included 18:14:40 <MeusH> does order matter? 18:16:37 <Sacro> MeusH: shouldnt do, as long as your using #ifndef foo_h, #define foo_h, foo_h stuff, #endif foo_h 18:16:59 <OwenS> #endif foo_h? WTF 18:17:39 <MeusH> well there is a typical header of a station_gui.c 18:17:40 <MeusH> ... 18:17:41 <MeusH> #include "gui.h" 18:17:41 <MeusH> #include "station_map.h" 18:17:41 <MeusH> #include "station.h" 18:17:42 <MeusH> ... 18:17:59 <MeusH> station_gui.c:585: warning: implicit declaration of function `GetStationIndex' 18:18:57 <Sacro> hmm, what uses a 25 pin d-sub 18:19:07 <lolman> I appear to have lost my screwdriver lol 18:19:14 <Sacro> OwenS: should be #endif //foo_h 18:19:29 <OwenS> IMO it should just be #endif 18:19:30 <MeusH> anyway, the problem is pretty strange for me and I haven't seen these recently 18:19:30 <lolman> Sacro: parallel ports? 18:19:47 <MeusH> there is an error, but it is after linking 18:19:49 <MeusH> ===> Linking openttd.exe 18:19:49 <MeusH> Warning: .drectve `/DEFAULTLIB:"uuid.lib" /DEFAULTLIB:"uuid.lib" ' unrecognized 18:19:49 <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x198d): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex' 18:19:49 <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x1b9b): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex' 18:19:49 <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x1bca): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex' 18:19:51 <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x1db4): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex' 18:19:52 <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x21b4): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex' 18:19:54 <MeusH> roadveh_gui.o:roadveh_gui.c:(.text+0x97e): more undefined references to `GetStationIndex' follow 18:19:55 <GoneWacko> D: 18:19:56 <MeusH> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 18:19:58 <MeusH> make: *** [openttd.exe] Error 1 18:20:07 * Sacro counts... 18:20:11 <GoneWacko> learn to use a pastebin ._. 18:20:14 <Sacro> lolman: ooh yes...dont need one of those 18:20:24 <lolman> Sacro: lol 18:20:55 * lolman has found his screwdriver 18:21:11 * lolman gets to work fitting CD drive to P2 18:21:26 <MeusH> well I fixed it 18:21:27 <MeusH> FIXED 18:21:34 <MeusH> sorry 18:21:57 <MeusH> it was a matter of a semicolon and one #include 18:22:12 <Sacro> MeusH: tsk tsk tsk 18:22:54 <Sacro> i wnat a mac pro :( 18:23:17 <hylje> who doesn't? 18:23:24 <Sacro> billus gatus? 18:23:26 <hylje> its the sweetest workstation right now 18:23:40 <Sacro> that insane bearded gpl buggerer 18:23:42 <hylje> im fairly sure gates doesnt have anything against apple _hardware_ 18:24:04 <hylje> linus torvalds did get some PowerMacs donated to him by apple 18:24:21 <Sacro> noo, not him, he's cool 18:24:23 <OwenS> I thought he bought them 18:24:33 <OwenS> Linus runs Linux on a Mac :P 18:25:36 <lolman> Sacro: that Stallman guy? 18:25:39 <lolman> :P 18:25:44 <Sacro> lolman: yes! him! 18:26:04 <lolman> No comment lol 18:26:33 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 18:29:16 <Sacro> BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA 18:29:18 <Sacro> "Microsoft Insists IE7 is Standards Compliant" 18:30:01 <lolman> Not a chance of that lol 18:30:21 <hylje> /.? heh 18:30:25 <Sacro> depends on whose standards you go by 18:30:28 <Sacro> hylje: spot on 18:30:44 <Sacro> it wont be w3 standards compliant 18:31:59 <hylje> o rly? 18:32:15 <Sacro> ya rly 18:32:26 <hylje> no wai 18:33:03 <StormDragoness> IE7 is about as compliant as FF. 18:33:10 <Sacro> hehe - "Satan insists AntiChrist 50 - 90% like Jesus.... except better." 18:33:17 <Sacro> StormDragoness: no its not 18:33:19 <MeusH> IE7 is compliant with Windows Media Player, Microsoft Outlock and ActiveX standards :P 18:33:25 <StormDragoness> Yes it is. 18:33:28 <Sacro> not by a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong shot 18:33:41 <StormDragoness> It is not perfect still, but neither is firefox. 18:34:03 <lolman> StormDragoness: have you used a recent build of IE7? 18:34:08 <StormDragoness> Yes 18:34:18 <lolman> Which build would that have been? 18:34:34 <Sacro> StormDragoness: its nowhere near perfect 18:34:58 <StormDragoness> I have written strict html for it, and I need to make no patches to correct annoying IE bugs so far. 18:35:37 <Sacro> for HTML 4.01 core attributes ie 6/7 is at 75% with ff and o9 @ 88% 18:35:50 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 18:36:12 <Sacro> for i18n, ie6/7 o9 are at 75% with ff fully compliant 18:36:53 <Sacro> ie doesnt support XHTML 1.0 18:37:12 <Sacro> and coincidently doesnt support 1.1 18:37:28 <Sacro> and all goes quiet 18:37:35 <Bjarni> <lolman> I appear to have lost my screwdriver lol <-- typical 18:37:44 <Bjarni> you lose and you say lol 18:37:47 <StormDragoness> You talk too much, and clearly have not tested it out for yourself extensively. 18:37:51 <lolman> Bjarni: yep! hehe 18:37:59 <Bjarni> also you managed to find it fairly quick 18:38:16 <Bjarni> I think I once spend at least 3 weeks finding a lost screwdriver 18:38:18 <Sacro> heh, i love the fact the ie6/7 and o9 dont fail when you send a non integer as an rgb value 18:38:27 <Bjarni> maybe it was as much as 2 months 18:38:33 <Sacro> StormDragoness: oh i have, ive just had to rewrite a whole sites CSS so it worked in ie6 18:38:54 <StormDragoness> Indeed, IE6 is a bag of fun. 18:39:05 <Sacro> s/fun/sh*te 18:39:10 <StormDragoness> heh 18:39:48 <Sacro> its like of position{} support, and box model really cheese me off 18:40:17 <StormDragoness> I trust you use the ms specific <!-- [if .. ? 18:40:20 <Sacro> s/like/lack 18:40:26 <Sacro> i dont see why i should... 18:40:45 <Sacro> i write standards complient code, i expect my browser to have a standards complient parser/renderer 18:41:17 <StormDragoness> And you said you had to rewrite a site to comply with ie6.. a bit of a hypocrite, are'nt yah? :P 18:41:20 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:42:08 <Sacro> yes, im working for someone, if it was my own site, i couldnt care less 18:42:23 <Sacro> http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_summary.php is the page i was digging around for 18:43:34 <Sacro> i see nowhere where IE6 or IE7 is better than firefox 18:44:02 <MeusH> IE7 has tabs, don't you know? :F 18:44:22 <Sacro> MeusH: so does my local bar 18:44:45 <StormDragoness> I never said they were, when IE7 comes out I'll still be sticking with FF, but like most people you slander a product just because its earlier version is a piece of trash, without actually having tried it out yourself. 18:44:59 <Sacro> i cant try out IE7 18:45:15 <StormDragoness> Why not? Hiding out on Linux? 18:45:21 <Sacro> not hiding per se 18:45:58 <Sacro> i could try it on my mums if i really wanted 18:46:19 * StormDragoness chuckles. 18:47:00 <lolman> Please do not call using linux "hiding", it is an individual's choice what OS they use, and as such what browser they use 18:47:09 <StormDragoness> You dont have a virtual machine running XP for these little experiences then. 18:47:18 <lolman> I dual boot 18:47:26 <StormDragoness> I know. 18:47:32 <Sacro> why should i? 18:47:41 <Sacro> ies4linux gives me ie 5, 5.5 and 6 18:47:47 <lolman> But I'll soon be squashing my copy of XP, thanks to the developments WINE has had in the past few months 18:48:13 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:05 <lolman> I can run all the games I played in Windows in Linux, so I no longer have a use for Windows 18:49:15 <StormDragoness> Fair enough. 18:49:17 <stillunknown> someone could say that a windows user is hiding :-) 18:49:24 <Wolf01> bah, clicking on the edit button of the image and fax viewer crashes explorer, if i rightclick on the image (still in the viewer) it works 18:49:40 <hylje> i havent used windows for 2 months or so 18:49:53 <StormDragoness> Whichever environment you find yourself comfortable in, but dont speak your mind about things you have only heard, and never tried. 18:49:56 <hylje> except for a week when we had a lappy with windows on a trip 18:50:22 <stillunknown> it's just a choice of OS, just like everyone chooses their software 18:50:28 <lolman> StormDragoness: what do you think I've never tried? 18:50:40 <Sacro> i personally dont see why i should fork out mininmum £60 for a base system that only comes with a kernel, a GUI and no serious software 18:51:25 <Sacro> i have a LAMP setup, firefox, OOo, and Eclipse, as well as a few versions of ie, and opera 9 18:51:32 <lolman> Sacro: not to mention no compiler :P 18:51:43 <Sacro> lolman: i know! 18:52:00 <Sacro> anywhoo, i have to go cook 18:52:02 <Sacro> bbs 18:52:07 <lolman> Okies, cya 18:52:14 <lolman> I'm gonna set DSL up 18:52:38 <Wolf01> sacro cooking? call firefighters! 18:52:41 <MeusH> cya lolman 18:52:50 <MeusH> bon apetit Sacro 18:52:51 <hylje> lololman 18:53:00 <lolman> MeusH: I'll still be here :P 18:53:12 <lolman> Different box :) 18:54:09 <Sacro> MeusH: get lost! 18:54:16 <Sacro> nope, sorry MeusH 18:54:19 <Sacro> Wolf01: GET LOST! 18:54:28 <Sacro> lolman: if you see smoke from the south, call 999 18:54:41 <MeusH> quoting QDB 18:54:43 <MeusH> Sacro, you suck 18:54:44 <MeusH> er, hi 18:54:48 <MeusH> a common typo :p 18:54:48 <MeusH> eh? 18:54:53 <lolman> Sacro: okies! 18:54:57 <MeusH> okay Sacro, I'm going lost 18:54:58 <MeusH> bye 18:55:01 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 18:59:37 <Wolf01> !seen Wolf01 18:59:38 <DorpsGek> Wolf01, do you have a split personality? *eg* 18:59:49 <Wolf01> i got lost! 19:00:24 <OwenS> rofl 19:00:27 <OwenS> !seen Wolf01 19:00:27 <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 19:00:34 <OwenS> !seen Wolf01 19:00:34 <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 19:00:39 <OwenS> Damn one message bot 19:00:43 <OwenS> !seen OwenS 19:00:44 <DorpsGek> OwenS, do you have a split personality? *eg* 19:00:44 <lolman> !seen OwenS 19:00:46 <DorpsGek> lolman, if you can't see OwenS here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 19:00:56 <lolman> There you go :P 19:00:57 <OwenS> O,o 19:01:07 <Wolf01> Wolf01, see what you started 19:01:13 <OwenS> Orudge will hate us :P 19:01:29 <Wolf01> me? you! 19:01:34 <OwenS> !seen lolman 19:01:36 <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 19:01:42 <OwenS> >.< 19:01:49 <lolman> !seen orudge 19:01:50 <lolman> :P 19:01:50 <DorpsGek> lolman, if you can't see orudge here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 19:02:52 * lolman had best shut up :P 19:03:04 <OwenS> !seen DorpsGek 19:03:04 <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 19:03:10 <OwenS> :P 19:03:16 <OwenS> !help 19:03:17 <OwenS> :( 19:03:22 <OwenS> I want a command list 19:03:33 <Wolf01> !list 19:03:43 <Wolf01> no, that is for warez chans 19:03:47 <lolman> !commands 19:03:47 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 19:03:48 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 19:03:48 <roboboy> * commands start with a !: (robobot) spam, wut, dance, channel, huggle, moo, beer, coke, crisps, girlfriend, nowplaying, present, chanlist, time, date, day, peak. Please dont use the spammy commands in #tycoon and please dont use !spam in #openttd. 19:04:15 <lolman> !dance 19:04:16 * roboboy does the robobot dance 19:04:19 <Wolf01> !girlfriend 19:04:19 <lolman> :-) 19:04:19 <roboboy> You're asking a BOT for a girlfriend?? 19:04:25 <Wolf01> -.- 19:04:27 <OwenS> Wolf01: You go in them? 0.o 19:04:31 <glx> !beer 19:04:32 * roboboy gives glx a beer 19:04:36 <OwenS> !date 19:04:42 <lolman> !coke 19:04:42 <roboboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then lolman. 19:04:51 <OwenS> !moo 19:04:52 <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo OwenS 19:04:53 <lolman> Oi I'm only 17! damn bot 19:05:14 <OwenS> !present 19:05:15 * roboboy gives OwenS James Dean 19:05:19 <OwenS> O.o 19:05:22 <OwenS> Who TF is that? 19:05:51 <lolman> A dead actor 19:05:57 <OwenS> O.o 19:06:01 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net//files/1_977.jpg and he can't figure why the track layout doesn't work? is simple, he used JPG!!! 19:06:14 <OwenS> rofl 19:06:35 <lolman> Has he never heard of Ctrl-S? 19:06:53 <OwenS> Seccondly, I love that layout's inteligence ^^ 19:06:57 <OwenS> (Or lackof as the case may be 19:07:00 <OwenS> Whats the topic? 19:07:12 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26856 19:08:02 <OwenS> And OMG WTF 2DIR SIGNALS!!! 19:08:27 <OwenS> </overexuberance isthattheword="?"> 19:09:28 <Wolf01> [21:07:00] <OwenS> Seccondly, I love that layout's inteligence ^^ <- i crashed all trains the first time, and i marked TT as a stupid game, but the day after i replayed it with one train per track like a motherboard data bus and now i can make also loadbalancers :O 19:10:26 <OwenS> lol 19:10:32 <OwenS> Motherboard data bus? O.o 19:10:42 <OwenS> Motherboards don't have A databus, they have many 19:11:40 <OwenS> FSB/Hypertransport, LSB, PCI, DDR, IDE ATA-133, SATA, PCI-X, PCI-Express, etc 19:11:58 <Wolf01> one of many, i can't build a motherboard in a ottd map 19:12:09 <Bjarni> Wolf01: do you make your track layout like a PCI or SATA bus? 19:12:28 <Bjarni> <Wolf01> one of many, i can't build a motherboard in a ottd map <-- you can.... if you use big enough maps ;) 19:12:36 <Guest56> hmmm mb track layout 19:13:06 <lolman> Bjarni: you'd need a HUGE map 19:13:17 <lolman> And massive stations too... 19:13:28 <Sacro> /me pops back for a few minutes 19:13:34 <Bjarni> that depends 19:13:54 <lolman> Sacro: I can see smoke... 19:14:31 <lolman> Bjarni: well for a realistic layout the slots would be represented by stations 19:14:45 <Sacro> !spam 19:14:45 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 19:14:49 <Sacro> *runs* 19:15:05 <Sacro> lolman: errm...let me go attend to the kitchen... 19:15:54 <Bjarni> nobody said it have to be a modern motherboard 19:16:08 <OwenS> !spam 19:16:08 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 19:16:16 <OwenS> Hehe, how about an MCU's internals? 19:16:18 <Bjarni> I imagine a 8 bit CPU could do with a less complex bus 19:16:22 <OwenS> That would require NAND heavily ^^ 19:16:30 <Sacro> heh, an ALU 19:16:33 <OwenS> Hehe 19:16:38 <lolman> Bjarni: ISA slots are even bigger ;-) 19:16:51 <OwenS> Of course you would need NAND relays for reasons of the ammount of signals... 19:17:04 <OwenS> ISA uses less pins IIRC 19:17:22 <lolman> OwenS: yes, but theyre physically bigger 19:17:26 <OwenS> True 19:17:41 <Bjarni> what would a motherboard for a C64 need? ;) 19:17:50 <lolman> Dunno lol 19:17:51 <Bjarni> not much 19:18:12 <Wolf01> if nand gates patch worked i would have made a 4 bit counter 19:18:19 <OwenS> Whats wrong with it? 19:18:27 <Wolf01> the limit? 19:18:36 <OwenS> Increase it then? 19:18:58 <Wolf01> don't work too 19:19:21 <OwenS> Im strangely lost at that 19:19:36 <Sacro> arrrrrrrrrghh 19:19:37 <OwenS> You must have a loop somewhere with an odd number of NANDs in it 19:19:41 * Sacro runs 19:20:17 <lolman> Sacro: burning something? 19:21:35 <Bjarni> yeah 19:21:38 <Bjarni> his food 19:21:46 <lolman> Typical...lol 19:21:47 <OwenS> I must wonder why so many people play with realistic accelerations turned off :( 19:22:05 <lolman> OwenS: I dunno, makes it better 19:22:11 <hylje> because its not default setting 19:22:15 <Bjarni> it's not ideal yet 19:22:15 <Wolf01> i turned it on 19:22:23 <OwenS> It should be except when loading legacy games 19:22:33 <lolman> I love RA-T in MiniIN 19:22:34 <Bjarni> it's not good enough. On the other hand, turning it off is not good enough either ;) 19:22:45 <OwenS> It's better however 19:24:25 <hylje> i vote for realistic acceleration and speed limit remover by default 19:24:42 <hylje> so you could, say, have some benefit from long straight lines 19:25:04 <Bjarni> not the speed limit remover 19:25:12 <Bjarni> did it even get into the trunk? 19:25:17 <Bjarni> (I hope not) 19:25:19 <hylje> not that i know of 19:25:21 <Wolf01> i vote for realism instead 19:25:38 <hylje> but with realistic acceleration i believe artificial limits are less useful 19:25:47 <lolman> I vote for a physics engine :P 19:25:53 <Bjarni> hylje: do you know what happens if a steam locomotive gets into too high speed? 19:25:55 <OwenS> Havok! :P 19:26:00 <OwenS> Bang? :P 19:26:16 <lolman> Bjarni: it gets called Mallard ;-) 19:26:28 <hylje> eh. the drivers' brains explode 19:26:32 *** Ammler_eating is now known as Ammler 19:26:40 <StormDragoness> Realism? come on.. this game is supposed to be simple and fun, not quite as simple as Locomotion, but still, simple. 19:26:51 <Bjarni> it can blow the pistons though the ends of the cylinders 19:26:56 <OwenS> Malard broke the world steam speed reccord because it was on a slope :P :) 19:26:56 <Bjarni> you don't want that to happen ;) 19:27:05 <lolman> OwenS: :P 19:27:10 <hylje> realism as long as it doesnt compromise playability 19:27:33 <Bjarni> the Mallard had to get repairs afterwards. The bearings could not handle the speed 19:27:39 <OwenS> True 19:27:39 <Wolf01> playability is not have 3.04GHz mainlines 19:28:06 <hylje> Bjarni: k, some trains could use the limit for the sake of realism then 19:28:08 <Wolf01> playability is make what you want easily 19:28:21 <lolman> brb 19:28:22 <OwenS> hylje: The speed limits should be the roof 19:28:30 <OwenS> It's unrealistic them not being it 19:28:39 <OwenS> Hmm, I wonder if, with an appropriate C compiler, it would be possible to port OpenTTD to the Propeller 19:28:43 <hylje> :D 19:28:59 <Bjarni> the Propeller running software? 19:29:06 <OwenS> Propeller chip, from Parallax 19:29:13 <OwenS> 8 x 80mHz cores 19:29:26 <Bjarni> ahh 19:29:27 <hylje> so ottd needs to get multithreaded 19:29:30 <hylje> to use that 19:29:32 <OwenS> It would 19:29:35 <OwenS> 8 threads... 19:29:40 <OwenS> Why is it single threaded anyway? 19:29:43 <Bjarni> possible, specially if we make it multithreaded 19:29:59 <OwenS> And someone makes a C compiler :P 19:30:01 *** znikoz [znikoz@68-49-5-195.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:07 <Bjarni> because ludde coded it as single threaded 19:30:09 <Bjarni> that's why 19:30:11 <OwenS> Hmm, but I doubt it could fit in 32kb ram 19:30:20 <OwenS> Probably because he was just re-ing TTD... 19:30:24 <Bjarni> that could be a problem 19:30:41 <OwenS> Would probably have to code some special routines which worked with external ram 19:31:06 <hylje> yep graphics for instance 19:31:16 <OwenS> Propeller has a TV graphics library 19:31:24 <OwenS> Although it uses 2 cores... 19:31:25 <Bjarni> to make it threaded, you would have to find places where it's possible to run stuff in parallel 19:31:37 <hylje> train logic? 19:31:40 <OwenS> It's difficult multithreading a single threaded thing 19:31:48 <Bjarni> yeah 19:31:49 <hylje> physics? 19:32:59 <OwenS> What physics? 19:33:03 <hylje> havok 19:33:13 <OwenS> Havok requires a 3D engine 19:33:14 <OwenS> !!! 19:33:18 <hylje> oh noes 19:33:27 <OwenS> AND is closed source 19:33:32 <OwenS> AND costs about ,000 per developer 19:33:36 <hylje> :( 19:33:47 <OwenS> OpenTTD doesn't need a physics engine 19:33:56 <OwenS> Physics calculations in 2D are relatively simple 19:34:06 <hylje> it would be worth a laugh to ask for realistic ragdoll stuff for a fucking train managing simulator 19:34:25 <Wolf01> use ODE 19:34:30 <Bjarni> now if YAPF gets coded into a threaded system, so several vehicles can be moved in parallel, then we could benefit from multiple cores 19:34:59 <Bjarni> the question is how to manage never to make a tile reserved for more than one train at any one time 19:35:10 <Wolf01> http://www.ode.org/ 19:35:12 <OwenS> Mutexes? 19:36:15 <Wolf01> [21:34:13] <hylje> it would be worth a laugh to ask for realistic ragdoll stuff for a fucking train managing simulator <- ragdoll trains: drive backwards, better crashes, derailments 19:36:16 <OwenS> Lock, if(!tile.reserved) tile.reserved = true; Unlock 19:36:54 <hylje> yeh 19:36:57 <Bjarni> something like that 19:37:09 <Bjarni> the question is how to get it to work bug free 19:37:10 <Tron> <OwenS> Why is it single threaded anyway? <--- one big central data structure where most stuff depends on. any further questions? 19:37:15 <Bjarni> on multiple cores 19:37:24 <hylje> by.. bugtesting? 19:37:39 <Tron> <OwenS> Mutexes? <--- locking a mutex, every time you fiddle with a tile, are you joking? 19:37:39 <Bjarni> ok, say we write it and then what 19:37:46 <Bjarni> 3164 bugs shows up 19:37:53 <OwenS> True 19:37:58 <OwenS> Hmm, one mutexfor each tile wouldn't be too bad however 19:38:05 <OwenS> Or even each group 19:38:11 <hylje> first make the train logic pluggable 19:38:12 <Bjarni> half of them impossible to trace because it's random events based on critical race between threads 19:38:22 <OwenS> Thats why you lock 19:38:39 <Bjarni> the lock can be buggy 19:38:45 <hylje> then branch out the multithreaded pathfinder 19:38:48 <OwenS> True 19:38:57 <Bjarni> and there might be other stuff that needs locking, that nobody thought of 19:38:57 <hylje> and encourage people to do crazy functionality testing on it 19:39:00 <Bjarni> that happened to TGP 19:39:29 <OwenS> Why is it people insist on having returns always at the end of functions? 19:39:29 <Bjarni> luckily that relatively simple threading issue was found and fixed 19:39:36 <Wolf01> i wish to be able to drag wagons with the mouse, to made realistic shunting yards 19:39:51 <Bjarni> OwenS: because writing code after return is pointless ;) 19:40:01 <OwenS> No, I mean people who do 19:40:06 <Tron> <OwenS> Hmm, one mutexfor each tile wouldn't be too bad however <--- uh... WHAT? 19:40:17 <OwenS> if(blah) rv = 0 19:40:17 <OwenS> else rv = (complex stuff here) 19:40:17 <OwenS> return rv; 19:40:28 <hylje> Wolf01: hehe godmode 19:40:33 <OwenS> Tron: OK, it's possible locking would be slow 19:40:35 <hylje> Wolf01: poke the train elsewhere 19:41:01 <OwenS> Tron: It's the challenge of balancing contention vs locking speed 19:41:08 <Tron> OwenS: slow... that's what i call an understatement 19:41:11 <hylje> if trains crash your job is to pick the vehicles and drop them into trash bin 19:41:18 <Wolf01> what about open depots and limit train size on depot size? 19:41:32 <hylje> Wolf01: suggested already? it sounds neat though 19:41:45 <Bjarni> if threading is added, we should NOT make a single core game slower, at least not enough to notice 19:41:57 <OwenS> True 19:42:07 <Wolf01> i suggest it each time i mind shunting yards 19:42:51 <hylje> is train breaking down logic final? 19:43:21 <Bjarni> say we figure out a way to make something threaded, but we need an 10% overhead, then it would increase speed on multiple cores, but slow down monocore systems 19:43:26 <hylje> i think that trains shouldnt break down 100% and stop too often, just slow down and head to the closest depot it can get 19:43:59 <OwenS> The thing is, it would be possible to make the lock/unlock macros a single instruction on most platforms (x86 for example has an "jump and set if zero" instruction 19:44:11 <Bjarni> usually breakdowns result in complete stops as the driver have to leave the cab to make a one minute repair to continue 19:44:27 <OwenS> Unlock is just a decrement 19:45:01 <OwenS> I dislike how often TTD makes breakdowns happen however; Totaly unrealistic 19:45:23 <Bjarni> I once witnessed a funny breakdown. The train stopped, the driver went back into the passenger compartment, opened a door/hatch, rebooted the computer in there and went back to driving 19:45:38 <Wolf01> i agree, locomotion ones are better 19:46:01 <Bjarni> breakdown: reboot the train :D 19:46:14 <OwenS> rofl 19:46:35 <Wolf01> lol, may trains have windows 19:46:43 <Bjarni> I think they got a software update so it should not happen anymore, at least not like that 19:46:53 <OwenS> I bet the train ran Windows :P 19:47:04 <OwenS> (OK, somewhat unlikely, but still...) 19:47:21 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has quit [Quit: Connection not reset by peer.] 19:48:29 <Bjarni> it was funny when the train rebooted. It turned off all the lights except some dim lights, that's always on for safety reasons and everything turned off, so it became really silent for a moment 19:48:39 <OwenS> lol 19:49:04 <Bjarni> a moment being like 5 sec 19:49:26 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:18 <Bjarni> imagine going back in time and tell a train driver, that got problems with his train to turn it off and on again and it will work again because that is the trick they will use in the future 19:50:21 <hylje> i remember in the brits that teh train/metro lost power for a second for two 19:50:40 <Bjarni> underground, not metro ;) 19:50:46 <hylje> same concept 19:50:58 <Bjarni> or even tube, if you speak local dialect ;) 19:51:02 <OwenS> London Underground originally ran on Steam 19:51:08 <Bjarni> yeah 19:51:22 <Bjarni> from 1863 to 1895, they ran on steam exclusively 19:51:36 <hylje> and speaking of that, those tunnels with the older lines were pretty small 19:51:39 <OwenS> They had a complex system for storing it then bursting it out of holes 19:51:48 <OwenS> hylje: Thats the NEWER lines 19:51:50 <hylje> steam metro is also quite a hack 19:51:56 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:52:12 <hylje> OwenS: the newer lines had luxurious space 19:52:21 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 19:52:34 <OwenS> The really small tube ones are newer than most of the larger subsurfaces 19:53:54 <hylje> heh 19:54:02 <hylje> budget concerns? 19:54:13 <OwenS> Nah, digginbg a hole that deep is more expensive 19:54:16 <Bjarni> http://www.veterantoget.dk/workshop/s740/s_740_1.jpg <-- ever seen one of those engines? 19:54:28 <hylje> no 19:54:28 <Bjarni> specially designed to avoid a smoke problem in tunnels 19:55:43 <Bjarni> the whole front is an addon. Both the large vertically places to keep the smoke away from the boiler and the / plate to make a draft going upwards 19:56:26 <Bjarni> also they had the ability to move the exhaust steam into the water tanks instead of out of the chimney. A true engine designed to run in tunnels 19:56:34 <znikoz> Bjarni: may i say a little about problem with REFIT vehicles 19:56:50 <Bjarni> powerful too. 1000 HP (for a tank engine) 19:56:54 <Bjarni> znikoz: go ahead 19:57:26 <znikoz> when i sold vehicle and bought new vehicle orders list is save but cargo type no and i must refin new vehicle manualy 19:58:03 <Bjarni> what is the problem? 19:58:39 <Bjarni> use autoreplace if you want to do this the easy way 19:59:01 <znikoz> my aircraft was refited to mail and getting old i sold it and buy new and that new transported PASSENGERS 19:59:32 <OwenS> Yes, since thats the aircraft's default 19:59:32 <Bjarni> enable autorenew in the patch settings 19:59:36 <hylje> in my experience refitting works fairly well with autorenew 20:00:01 <Bjarni> and then you should not care about replacing it. It's done automatically and it just works 20:00:32 <Bjarni> I spend a great deal of time to write it and then remove all the bugs. Now that it really works, go ahead and use it ;) 20:01:02 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:14 <Bjarni> I think I fixed the last bug 365 days after I started working on autoreplace, so it's not a small thing 20:01:32 <Bjarni> seriously, 363-365 days of development 20:01:37 <Bjarni> + bug fixing 20:01:42 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 20:02:06 <Bjarni> granted, I also did other stuff during that time, but still... 20:02:41 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> http://www.veterantoget.dk/workshop/s740/s_740_1.jpg <-- ever seen one of those engines? <-- are you serious that nobody have seen this engine??? 20:04:23 <Bjarni> and then the channel turned idle... 20:04:32 <hylje> heheh 20:04:53 <Bjarni> I think you have seen it. You just forgot it 20:05:41 <Bjarni> it's that engine (not just type, but the actual engine from the pic) that pulled the circus train in James Bond - Octopussy 20:05:56 <Bjarni> some if not all of you have seen that 20:05:59 <hylje> :o 20:06:07 <hylje> some obscure stuff still 20:06:18 <Bjarni> ? 20:06:27 <Bjarni> what do you mean? 20:07:05 <hylje> well everyone has seen almost everything but most of that stays obscure 20:07:48 <Bjarni> the funny thing is that it's a Danish engine, build in Denmark, recorded in England as a German engine driving in DDR 20:08:24 <lolman> Back :) 20:08:44 <Bjarni> I think you can see an English style crossing (in what the movie calls Germany), but I'm not entirely sure 20:09:06 <Bjarni> lolman: you know this one, right? http://www.veterantoget.dk/workshop/s740/s_740_1.jpg 20:10:20 *** znikoz [znikoz@68-49-5-195.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:34 *** znikoz [znikoz@68-49-5-195.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:35 <Bjarni> what is it with that question? 20:10:47 <Bjarni> it turns the channel idle each time it shows up :/ 20:10:59 <Bjarni> it's a yes/no question 20:11:04 <Bjarni> it's not that tricky 20:11:43 <hylje> maybe 20:12:12 <Bjarni> great, now lolman died 20:12:17 <Bjarni> again 20:12:28 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.146.112] has joined #openttd 20:12:28 <lolman> Sorry was busy 20:12:45 <Bjarni> stop jerking off in the middle of a conversation 20:12:54 <lolman> I'm not lol 20:12:56 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> lolman: you know this one, right? http://www.veterantoget.dk/workshop/s740/s_740_1.jpg 20:12:59 <hylje> heheh 20:13:14 <lolman> Don't recognise it 20:13:24 <Wolf01> 'night 20:13:25 <Bjarni> >_< 20:13:30 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host187-62.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has quit [Quit: e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro] 20:13:31 <Bjarni> what is it with you guys? 20:13:42 <lolman> I'm not a train geek :P 20:13:59 <Bjarni> lolman: I think it have been driving in your backyard (or close by) 20:14:31 <Bjarni> go back to 21:05 (your time) and read what it is 20:14:32 <lolman> Bjarni: I don't live near any railway lines 20:14:46 <lolman> Ohhh 20:14:59 <lolman> THAT'S what it is 20:15:26 <Bjarni> and you have seen that one before, right? 20:15:31 <lolman> No :P 20:15:36 <Bjarni> ... 20:15:52 <Bjarni> I think they recorded the train ride near York, but I'm not 100% sure 20:16:04 <Bjarni> I forgot the actual location 20:16:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:16:18 <lolman> Bjarni: when was it filmed? 20:16:24 <Bjarni> there is no point in asking Sacro 20:16:28 <Bjarni> lolman: 1983 20:16:37 <lolman> Bjarni: How old am I? 20:17:02 <Bjarni> according to your original nick, you are an old dude of 89 years 20:17:04 <Bjarni> :p 20:17:11 <lolman> Nope, I'm 17 :P 20:17:13 <hylje> lolol 20:17:31 <Nigel> 89 as in 1989 i assume 20:17:43 <lolman> Yeah Nigel 20:17:44 <Bjarni> hi sir Nigel 20:17:54 <Bjarni> and you are from 1935, I presume 20:18:12 <Nigel> how did you guess? 20:18:12 <Bjarni> which would make you 71 years old 20:18:40 <Nigel> no, i was born in the year 2020, i just decided to do a bit of time travel 20:18:45 <Bjarni> I know railroad history. The Mallard and Sir Nigel is the same age and the same type (A4) 20:19:02 <Bjarni> *are 20:20:06 <Nigel> well, i'm off 20:20:22 <Nigel> need to catch my buses & trains and what not for the day 20:20:25 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:20:34 <Bjarni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:60007_Sir_Nigel_Gresley.jpg 20:20:46 * Sacro cries 20:20:50 <Nigel> sadly, my original idea for an Auckland rail set won't work 20:21:01 <lolman> Sacro 20:21:02 <lolman> ? 20:21:04 <Bjarni> why not? 20:21:06 <Nigel> I was going to set the reliablity to 5% 20:21:11 <Bjarni> haha 20:21:13 <Sacro> lolman: everythings getting me down 20:21:25 * lolman slaps Sacro 20:21:30 <lolman> get a grip of yerself 20:21:31 <Sacro> thanks... 20:21:41 <Bjarni> not powerful enough 20:21:46 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [hope this helps] 20:21:50 <Nigel> somehow the reliability shot up to about 95% 20:21:52 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:21:55 <Sacro> nope, didnt 20:22:14 <Bjarni> Nigel: well, keep working on it ;) 20:22:15 <Sacro> and damnit, the company name i was going to use is taken :( 20:22:26 <stillunknown> Bjarni: that picture, when was it taken? 20:22:38 <Bjarni> of the A4? 20:22:42 <Bjarni> beats me 20:22:46 <Bjarni> I just googled for it 20:23:24 <stillunknown> i've seen better A4's (not in real life, but on tv and pictures) 20:24:03 <Bjarni> the point is that the pic shows Sir Nigel and Nigel showed up the the channel, so I said that he's 71 years old ;) 20:24:11 <Bjarni> not that it should be pretty or anything 20:24:19 * Sacro considers domain purchasing 20:24:42 <Bjarni> www.sacro.tv ? 20:24:52 <Sacro> Bjarni: no, for my new company 20:25:07 <Sacro> except orudge doesnt appear to do .co.uk 20:25:11 <Bjarni> I think sacro.tv is for sale 20:25:23 <Sacro> could have sacro.ttt 20:25:24 <Sacro> *tt 20:25:34 <stillunknown> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:4498_Sir_Nigel_Gresley_Rainhill150b.jpg 20:26:05 <Bjarni> but the nameplate is not as easily read 20:26:09 <Sacro> now, whats better, .com, .net, .org 20:26:21 <Bjarni> you can't have .xxx 20:26:26 <Bjarni> Bush went against that idea 20:26:33 <stillunknown> streamliners need to be pretty :-) 20:26:51 <stillunknown> it depends on what you want to do with the domain 20:26:53 <Bjarni> streamliners needs to be fast 20:27:33 <Sacro> wtf is .in 20:27:37 <Bjarni> Sacro: you can have a company specialised in slackery? 20:27:43 <Bjarni> India 20:28:10 <Bjarni> www.sacro.in/hell 20:28:14 <Sacro> :o 20:28:30 <Bjarni> ok, maybe another subdir 20:28:34 <Bjarni> but the idea is nice 20:28:51 <Bjarni> www.sacro.in/candyshop 20:29:03 <Bjarni> www.sacro.in/computerstore 20:29:04 <Sacro> where can i buy .co.uk domains 20:29:08 <Bjarni> www.sacro.at/home 20:29:35 <Sacro> Bjarni: very nice... 20:29:46 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:52 <Bjarni> yeah 20:29:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:29:59 <Bjarni> if you lived in Austria 20:30:09 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2291.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:30:24 <Born_Acorn> http://www.2d53.co.uk/25yrsago/25yrsago1077.htm <-- Sir Nigel Gresley fails on Gresford bank. 20:30:27 <Born_Acorn> It stalled! 20:32:03 <Bjarni> hehe 20:32:04 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176117052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:32:27 <Bjarni> steam locomotives increase their max power output when they increase speed 20:32:42 <Bjarni> making them rather weak when starting uphill 20:33:15 <Bjarni> if it were running 6-70 before the hill, then it might have been able to make it all the way to the top at that speed 20:33:29 <Bjarni> might even have accelerated 20:33:47 <Bjarni> this is one of the reasons why steam died in favour of electric traction 20:33:53 <Born_Acorn> It was only moving at a walking pace when that photo was taken, and with a big Tourist train, it failed. 20:34:21 <Bjarni> I can read 20:34:42 <Born_Acorn> I know! Im just in a narrative mood 20:34:52 <Bjarni> *mode 20:34:55 <Bjarni> :p 20:34:58 <Born_Acorn> said Born_Acorn, enthusiastically. 20:35:35 * Bjarni switches Born_Acorn's mode to sceptical 20:36:08 <Sacro> found my domain, but cant get it using paypal :( 20:36:09 <Born_Acorn> hmm. I don't know... 20:36:27 <Bjarni> so, 1977... to bad they didn't have radio back then 20:36:32 <Bjarni> Sacro: why not? 20:36:41 <Born_Acorn> They had radio before air was invented. 20:36:52 * lws1984 has had radio since before he was born! 20:37:07 <Bjarni> I mean they didn't use it 20:37:07 <Sacro> Bjarni: i have to find another company that accepts it 20:37:32 <Bjarni> Sacro: how should you pay if not though paypal? 20:37:52 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.146.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:21 <Bjarni> I kind of like www.sacro.at/home 20:38:26 <Bjarni> it seems to fit you well 20:38:40 *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH 20:38:46 <Bjarni> describe you very well 20:38:51 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176110178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:58 <Sacro> im also curous about prices for servers... 20:39:16 <lolman> Sacro: 2 words, not cheap 20:39:55 <Sacro> lolman: 2 words, thought not 20:40:06 <lolman> Lol 20:40:15 <lolman> Sarcastic bugger 20:40:22 <Sacro> :\ 588 ppa 20:40:31 <Bjarni> hehe, I just got a funny thought 20:40:33 <Sacro> or 49 ppm + vat 20:40:44 <OwenS> ppm? Parts per million? 20:40:53 <Sacro> OwenS: pounds per month 20:41:12 <OwenS> </pedant reason="sacrodoesn'tgetit"> 20:41:21 <Bjarni> imagine being a movie actor and playing married to somebody and half way though the movie, you start to hate each other, but you still have to make passionate kissing scenes 20:41:28 <Bjarni> that would suck 20:41:37 <Sacro> Bjarni: i dont think so 20:41:42 <Sacro> what if she started hating you? 20:42:07 <Sacro> your being paid loads of money to have a girl get it on with you 20:42:13 <Bjarni> I mean if you both start to hate each other 20:42:45 <lolman> Ok my mouse has stopped working lol 20:42:51 <Bjarni> you would likely do it (specially you Sacro), but is it possible to make convincing? 20:43:10 <Bjarni> lolman: the rest of us would cause at such a fact 20:43:13 <Bjarni> you are special 20:43:16 *** znikoz [znikoz@68-49-5-195.pool.ukrtel.net] has left #openttd [] 20:43:19 <lolman> :-D 20:43:35 <Bjarni> reminds me of flowers for Algenon 20:43:43 <lolman> I can't help the random outbursts :P 20:43:49 <Bjarni> in the beginning, he was very easy to please 20:44:35 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 20:44:56 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N847P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:46:14 <Sacro> :o 50ppm for reseller hosting 20:48:27 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:48:35 <Sacro> :D i can become an ISP 20:49:13 <Belugas_Gone> 'night all 20:49:19 *** wohnout [~m14-328@235.125.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Vsak ja se vratim] 20:49:19 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387D3DF.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:49:36 <Sacro> anywhoo, i think im gonna go out for a bit 20:50:27 *** Guest56 [Gono@N829P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:59 <lolman> Cya Sacro 20:51:06 <Sacro> lolman: see you 20:51:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:34 <Darkvater> 'ello 20:53:59 <Bjarni> hi dark fellow 20:54:06 <Bjarni> hmm 20:54:13 <Bjarni> would that make you a drow? 20:55:00 <hylje> no 20:55:03 <Darkvater> Bjarni! Stop drinking you bum 20:55:06 <hylje> unless he can prove his elvenness 20:55:23 <Bjarni> o_O 20:55:32 <Bjarni> drinking my bum? 20:55:37 <Bjarni> wtf are you talking about? 20:55:49 <Bjarni> on 2n thought, I don't want to know 20:55:50 <Darkvater> clearly a case of insufficient english knowledge 20:56:00 * Darkvater uploads Bjarni some english skills 20:56:38 <Bjarni> oh, you didn't typo your into you then 20:57:11 <Bjarni> but you are incorrect. I'm not a bum 20:57:17 <Bjarni> and I'm not drinking 20:57:29 <Bjarni> anyway 20:57:38 <Bjarni> Darkvater: TGP is ready to be merged 20:57:54 <Darkvater> don't see truelight around 20:58:00 <Darkvater> did you have a look through the diff? ;) 20:58:08 <Bjarni> <Rubidium> Bjarni: I've got not problem if you merge TGP & trunk; there have been no new bugs since way before TrueLight left and it was ready to merge, but it got delayed due to the release of 0.4.8 20:58:52 <Rubidium> Darkvater: TrueLight is on vacation till Friday 20:59:09 <Darkvater> I know 20:59:37 <Bjarni> the issue about the diff is.... I don't really understand how it works (never understood the map generator), but I can say that it works 20:59:52 <Bjarni> I tried it several times and all the bugs I found have been fixed a while ago 21:00:26 <Darkvater> I'm not really gonna look through tgp.c either, too technical, but we should have a look at the ingame hooks, the gui code and the TGP interface 21:01:26 <Bjarni> hmm 21:01:31 <Bjarni> how to generate the diff... 21:01:41 <Rubidium> see the mail from TrueLight 21:01:44 <Darkvater> look in the mail truelight sent around 21:01:51 <Bjarni> ah 21:01:55 <Bjarni> yes 21:02:04 <Bjarni> now that you mention it, I can remember reading that mail 21:02:04 <Rubidium> svn diff svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk svn://svn.openttd.org/branches/TGP ;) 21:02:36 <Bjarni> sounds easy 21:02:55 <Bjarni> so.. 21:03:03 <Darkvater> > tgp.diff 21:03:04 <Darkvater> ;p 21:03:15 <Bjarni> there is the savegame revision to check (important) and the hooks 21:03:19 <Bjarni> and the GUI 21:03:22 <Rubidium> and it works too, as TGP is completely synced with trunk 21:03:58 <Bjarni> I just noticed an interesting thing 21:04:23 <Bjarni> TL added this to the cocoa video driver 21:04:33 <Bjarni> I didn't notice that he changed that file 21:04:42 <Bjarni> no wonder he was so eager to get me to test it :) 21:05:42 <Bjarni> +STR_LOAD_GAME_HEIGHTMAP :{WHITE}Use Heightmap 21:05:44 <Bjarni> +STR_LOAD_SCEN_HEIGHTMAP :{BLACK}Use Heightmap 21:06:04 <Bjarni> can't we merge those into one string and then give the colour as a parameter? 21:06:58 <glx> is it possible to do that with widget arrays? 21:07:23 <Bjarni> I mean it looks silly to have two identical text strings 21:07:49 <glx> I agree but the widget/window stuff needs it I think 21:08:05 <Bjarni> actually it would be {WHITE}{STRING} and then add "Use Heightmap" as a parameter 21:08:42 <glx> but you can't use params in widget arrays 21:08:55 <Bjarni> hmm 21:09:13 <Bjarni> good point 21:09:18 <Bjarni> it stays as it is then 21:09:47 <Darkvater> Bjarni: you can't do that 21:09:52 <Darkvater> what if people use a different language? 21:10:04 <Darkvater> glx: you can actually 21:10:12 <Darkvater> glx: very, very ugly, but you can 21:10:35 <glx> Darkvater: yes in paint handler but it's ugly :) 21:10:36 <Bjarni> I meant "Use Heightmap" as say STR_USE_HEIGHTMAP 21:10:59 <Bjarni> so it adds a parameter from the lng file 21:11:10 <Darkvater> glx: yep, right before drawwindowwidgets() 21:12:05 <Bjarni> I didn't want to hardcode the game into using an English string :p 21:12:43 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:14:03 <Bjarni> gah 21:14:17 <Bjarni> Rubidium: you guys sure types a whole lot... 21:15:56 <MeusH[away]> how about STR_WHITE and STR_USE_HEIGHTMAP? 21:16:02 *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH 21:16:12 <MeusH> wouldn't it be the same effect? 21:16:28 <Darkvater> what would STR_WHITE do? 21:16:40 <MeusH> we would at least get rid of {WHITE}Iron ore {BLACK}Iron ore and {TINYFONT}Iron ore 21:16:44 <Bjarni> {WHITE}{STRING} 21:16:50 <MeusH> Darkvater: STR_WHITE would contain this ^ 21:16:53 <MeusH> what Bjarni wrote;) 21:16:54 <MeusH> thanks 21:16:59 <Darkvater> that won't work 21:17:04 <MeusH> or at least just {WHITE} 21:17:16 <Darkvater> I think 21:17:17 <Bjarni> {WHITE} alone will never work 21:17:27 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I think it would work 21:17:36 <Rubidium> 23:14 <@Bjarni> Rubidium: you guys sure types a whole lot... <- what do you mean by that? That the diff is quite huge or something else? 21:17:44 <glx> already in english.txt : STR_012D :{WHITE}{STRING} 21:17:49 <Bjarni> maybe I should investigate this option 21:17:51 <MeusH> allright guys, goodnight 21:17:54 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:18:01 <Bjarni> Rubidium: yes.... the diff will take ages to read :( 21:18:17 <Darkvater> suits you right! 21:18:18 <Bjarni> and it's not like it got punchlines like bash.org or anything 21:18:25 <Darkvater> evil *grin* 21:20:36 <Rubidium> Bjarni: yes, the branch has become a little bit large and maybe more difficult to review 21:21:22 <Bjarni> maybe??? 21:21:45 <Bjarni> I'm half way though, but I haven't understood shit, so I'm wondering about the point in continuing 21:21:55 <Darkvater> punishment 21:22:25 <Bjarni> why should I be punished for wanting to add something that appears to work and people wants to use? 21:22:27 *** lolman_ [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:22:41 <Darkvater> because lolman said so 21:22:42 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by lolman_))] 21:22:45 *** lolman_ was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [human cloning is banned] 21:22:56 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:23:05 <lolman> lol 21:23:19 <lolman> Ya bugger 21:23:46 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> because lolman said so <-- he did? 21:23:51 <Bjarni> I don't think so 21:23:55 <lolman> what? 21:23:58 <Bjarni> all he ever says is lol 21:24:09 <Bjarni> hence the name I gave him 21:24:10 <lolman> What did I say? 21:24:11 <Darkvater> he did say that 21:24:21 <Darkvater> didn't you manlol? 21:24:39 <lolman> I don't remember typing that 21:24:45 <Bjarni> I said lolman at one time 21:24:55 <Bjarni> and some other lol names 21:25:01 <Bjarni> and then he changed his nick to lolman 21:25:08 <lolman> Yeah he said lolman and omgman 21:25:12 <ln-> i just realised there's an island called "LOL land" in denmark. isn't that a little ridiculous? 21:25:14 <Bjarni> no 21:25:17 <Bjarni> not omgman 21:25:31 <lolman> Oh, you asked where omgman was, or was that blathjis? 21:25:51 <Darkvater> !seen omgman 21:25:52 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, omgman? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember omgman. 21:25:57 <Darkvater> !seen DorpsGek 21:25:58 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, if you can't see DorpsGek here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 21:26:07 <lolman> !seen JohnUK89 21:26:07 * Darkvater can't see DorpsGek 21:26:08 <DorpsGek> lolman, I found 5 matches to your query: lolman, lolman_, JohnUK89, deadlolman, john. lolman (~john@149.254.200.215) was last seen joining #openttd 3 minutes ago (16.08. 21:22). lolman is still there. 21:26:23 <Darkvater> !seen celestar 21:26:24 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, I don't remember seeing celestar. 21:26:32 <Bjarni> ln-: well, it's a funny place to live 21:26:39 <Bjarni> and there is thunder right now 21:26:56 <Bjarni> Darkvater: Celestar never switched server for some reason 21:28:01 <Darkvater> he's away most likely 21:28:14 <Bjarni> yeah 21:28:57 <Bjarni> singing "'cus I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I will get back" 21:29:14 <lolman> Bjarni: NO! You sang it WRONG! 21:29:23 <Bjarni> I just realised that 21:29:25 <Bjarni> :( 21:29:30 <lolman> "Leaving, on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again!" 21:29:46 <Bjarni> well 21:29:56 <Bjarni> haven't heard it in more than a year or so 21:30:00 <lolman> Aah lol 21:30:53 <Bjarni> anyway, the point remain, he left on one of his jet planes and we don't know when he returns 21:30:58 <lolman> Yes 21:31:30 <Bjarni> lolman: you joined late, so you might not know this, but Celestar really is a jet plane guy in real life 21:31:44 <lolman> Bjarni: aah, rich git? 21:31:58 <lolman> Or just licensed pilot? 21:32:00 <Bjarni> no 21:32:09 <Patrick`> no, an actual jet plane 21:32:14 <Patrick`> he has wings and an undercarriage 21:32:21 <Bjarni> Ph.D. in plane engineering 21:32:29 <lolman> Bjarni: aah :) 21:33:12 <Bjarni> or maybe it's still future Ph.D.... I can't really remember. It's been a while 21:33:56 <Darkvater> no, he was finished 21:34:08 <lolman> Well done to him! 21:34:09 <Bjarni> thought so 21:34:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Don't give me logic, give me emotions!] 21:34:32 <Bjarni> that's why he lacks time now. No study time to spend on OTTD :p 21:34:49 <lolman> Lol, that is a problem :P 21:35:38 <Bjarni> lolman: btw what are you going to be when you grow up? 21:35:46 <lolman> Bjarni: no idea :P 21:36:05 <lolman> "I want to be an F1 driverrrrr" :-D 21:36:22 <Bjarni> oh that kind of guy 21:36:36 <Bjarni> they end up as garbage collectors 21:36:47 <lolman> Nah, lol I'm not "that kind of guy" 21:36:49 <Bjarni> at least judging from how they drive those trucks 21:37:17 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: good night] 21:37:20 <lolman> I know I'll never be an F1 driver, so I'm going down the much easier route of IT support :P 21:38:21 <Bjarni> you know, driving F1 will make you lose money, even if you succeed. The whole car industry got a system of where to place the drivers so they don't pay taxes (special islands for that), so they can make a (poor) living out of driving 21:38:46 <Bjarni> they earn a lot of money, but the are in constant dept due to those expensive cars 21:38:56 <lolman> lol 21:39:15 <lolman> I don't want to be in debt :P 21:40:26 <Bjarni> and they can't really quit without winning in lotto or something or they will end up with an unpayable dept 21:40:36 *** bruce89 [~bruce@81-178-107-81.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 21:40:38 <Bjarni> I would never do such a thing 21:40:39 <lolman> Hehe 21:40:54 <lolman> That's why Coulthard still drives in F1 then...and Schumacher too 21:40:58 <Bjarni> and I recommend others to stay away as well 21:41:23 <Bjarni> I guess so 21:41:29 <OwenS> Why did Opera reccomend opening a zip with WINE?! 21:41:30 <OwenS> O.o 21:41:50 <lolman> OwenS: dunno, because Opera is a bit dopey? 21:42:02 <lolman> I mean I saw her shows, and they were crap :-D 21:42:03 <OwenS> Opera is normally smart 21:42:09 <OwenS> -.- 21:42:16 <OwenS> Shes called Operah anyway... 21:42:24 <Bjarni> for the same reason that firefox once tried to open a dmg (disk image file) in a hex editor.... I have no idea why that happens once in a while 21:42:28 <lolman> Damn yoooo! :P 21:42:38 <Bjarni> I have even considered deleting the hex editor as I don't really use it anymore 21:42:55 <OwenS> KHexEdit? 21:43:35 <Bjarni> I'm on OSX, you dork 21:43:45 <OwenS> Oh, I forgot :P 21:44:02 * Bjarni slaps OwenS hard 21:44:12 <Bjarni> you even claim to be on the forum 21:44:27 * OwenS pulls out a "You have lost at life" card on Bjarni 21:45:07 <Bjarni> hehe 21:45:22 <Bjarni> reminds me of Magic the Gathering 21:45:29 * lolman starts downloading Opera 21:45:31 <Bjarni> there used to be a spell called time walk 21:45:32 <Darkvater> hmm 21:45:33 <lolman> Fancy giving it a go 21:45:35 <Darkvater> early night 21:45:39 <Darkvater> see you all tomorrow 21:45:47 <OwenS> Opera 9 is nice 21:45:58 <OwenS> Fast, looks good, renders WAY better than firefox 21:46:03 <OwenS> Oh, has SVG support :) 21:46:20 <Bjarni> originally it said "opponent lose next turn", so people started using it as a sure win card because the opponent would always lose when it was used 21:46:30 <lolman> OwenS: well if it renders better than Firefox I'll be using it as me main browser 21:46:45 <lolman> Ooh BitTorrent support built in...nice 21:46:49 <Bjarni> in a newer "release", the text was changed to "you take an extra turn once your turn is finished" 21:47:03 <OwenS> Opera passes Acid2 21:47:13 <OwenS> Being the 3rd (IIRC), after Safari and Konqueror 21:48:09 <OwenS> http://members.ii.net/~rerksirathai/crash.html <- Open that in a Firefox instance you can afford to loose 21:49:35 * lolman waits 21:49:46 <Bjarni> lolman: you disappoint me. You didn't say lol to what I just told 21:50:07 <lolman> Bjarni: I didn't read it lol 21:50:22 <lolman> OwenS: it appears to have frozen :P 21:50:27 <OwenS> It does 21:50:37 <OwenS> It's a tonne of nested <marquee>s 21:50:39 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> reminds me of Magic the Gathering 21:50:40 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> there used to be a spell called time walk 21:50:43 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> originally it said "opponent lose next turn", so people started using it as a sure win card because the opponent would always lose when it was used 21:50:49 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> in a newer "release", the text was changed to "you take an extra turn once your turn is finished" 21:51:01 <OwenS> Haha 21:51:04 <lolman> lol Bjarni 21:51:15 <lolman> Bit of a contradiction there 21:51:32 <lolman> Well, a vaguery at the very least 21:51:46 <Bjarni> the thing is, if you started with the right cards, you could play that card before the opponent got his first turn 21:51:53 <OwenS> BTW, Opera needs a bit of getting used to 21:52:12 <lolman> OwenS: I'm sure I can get used to it :) 21:54:17 <OwenS> Its also skinable, but I use the default skin since it's nice :P 21:54:23 <lolman> Ooh exam results tomorrow 21:54:36 <lolman> OwenS: I'm not fussed about skins as long as it works :P 21:54:45 <OwenS> :P 21:55:12 <OwenS> It's also really nice on the memory (Yes i'm looking at you firefox -.-) 21:55:58 <lolman> Lol 21:56:06 * lolman looks at System Monitor 21:56:34 <lolman> 32.2MiB :o 21:56:41 <OwenS> What is? 21:56:52 <lolman> Firefox memory usage 21:57:02 <OwenS> Ive had it use ~150mB 21:57:29 <lolman> OwenS: The :o was at the fact it's less than I've ever seen it, even under Windoze 21:57:43 <OwenS> Aah 21:58:05 <OwenS> Hmm, anyone know how to get a simple indication of memory usage under unicies? 21:58:18 <glx> hmm only 23MB for me actually 21:58:30 <OwenS> 22:58:19 up 12:27, 4 users, load average: 0.50, 0.27, 0.22 21:58:30 <OwenS> OMG that low? :) 21:58:37 <lolman> glx: must be my extensions 21:58:55 <glx> (winXP here) 21:59:01 <lolman> I have no swap either, so it's all in RAM :) 21:59:14 <bruce89> i already have my exam results 21:59:43 <lolman> Bruce89: what exams? 21:59:48 <bruce89> highers 21:59:51 <OwenS> I have 1gb Ram and 512mb swap 21:59:55 <lolman> Aah 21:59:59 <lolman> I'm in England 22:00:05 <bruce89> firefox 2 is worse by the way 22:00:11 <lolman> OwenS: just the RAM here 22:00:26 <OwenS> Firefox 2 is currently being built in debug mode most likely; Of course it is 22:00:32 <bruce89> 1 page = 91.4MiB 22:00:47 <SpComb> OwenS: free for system mem use, top for taskmanager-style, ps with some options for more details 22:00:48 <bruce89> i suppose 22:01:41 <OwenS> Using top how do I dentify (Out of all of those) how much memory it's using (Minus mmap()ed stuff) 22:02:22 <lolman> My total memory usage (with more apps open) is less than XP...nice :-D 22:02:37 <lolman> And it's not swapped half the kernel either... 22:02:44 <OwenS> rofl 22:02:46 <SpComb> OwenS: RES should be real mem use 22:02:55 <OwenS> It should really be using all the memory possible 22:03:00 <OwenS> Linux does that 99% of the time 22:03:05 <OwenS> It caches tonnes of stuff, etc 22:03:18 <SpComb> yeah, linux always uses as much mem as possible 22:03:27 <SpComb> if it can, it will cache your entire hard drive in mem :) 22:03:32 <OwenS> 4020 oshepher 15 0 471m 118m 16m S 0.3 11.7 8:53.24 opera <- But I have a tonne of tabs, some with flash etc 22:03:32 <lolman> OwenS: 219.7 out of 1011.7 (dunno where the extra 12.3 went) 22:03:55 <SpComb> in MB: 22:03:56 <SpComb> total used free shared buffers cached 22:03:56 <SpComb> Mem: 2028 2020 7 0 157 1485 22:04:18 <SpComb> so I've got approximatly 1.5GB of hard disk in ram :) 22:04:35 <OwenS> Hhee 22:04:44 <lolman> Nice 22:04:44 <OwenS> 430996k cached says top 22:04:55 <SpComb> `free -m` 22:05:01 <lolman> I've not got much cached at all... 22:05:11 <SpComb> I've only got 380MB of ram in real use 22:05:11 <OwenS> 320MB 22:05:21 <OwenS> 420MB even 22:05:24 * SpComb ponders if he should split the two 1 GB sticks into different computers 22:05:25 <bruce89> 261 22:05:39 <lolman> I dunno lol 22:05:41 <SpComb> because I don't really need two GB of ram it seems, utter waste 22:05:46 <lolman> total: command not found 22:05:50 <lolman> :P 22:06:01 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:05 <OwenS> free -m 22:06:27 <bruce89> yikes, it says 701 used 22:06:30 <lolman> damn copy-paste :P 22:06:45 <lolman> 867 used, 227 really used 22:06:50 <lolman> so 595 cached 22:06:57 <lolman> 44 buffers 22:07:17 <lolman> and 0 swap :P 22:07:24 <lolman> either free or used :P 22:07:34 <OwenS> I have my swap empty ^^ 22:07:42 <OwenS> Although it claims I only have 255mb swap? Hmm 22:07:58 * SpComb has 0 MB swap in use 22:08:09 * lolman installs Opera 22:08:10 <SpComb> linux doesn't cache the disk into swap :P 22:08:17 <OwenS> :P 22:08:47 <OwenS> I'm actually suprised at it being empty, I would have thought it would have swapped stuff used very rarely to get more commonly used parts of the HD in 22:09:06 <lolman> There we go :) 22:09:11 <lolman> Ooh sexy :P 22:09:15 <OwenS> :P 22:09:51 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176117052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:10:08 <lolman> Me likes :P 22:10:38 <bruce89> ? 22:10:49 <lolman> bruce89: opera 22:11:01 *** UE|sleepingtiem [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: if at first you dont succeed, you fail.] 22:11:05 <bruce89> oh dear 22:11:14 <OwenS> The browser 22:11:36 <lolman> Which uses 21.3MB of RAM against Forefox's 32 22:11:37 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:11:53 <bruce89> not that much less really 22:11:59 <bruce89> may i suggest w3m 22:12:04 <lolman> No :P 22:12:41 <bruce89> it only uses 2 MiB 22:12:49 <SpComb> 13319 terom 15 0 7636 5024 4560 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.20 lynx 22:12:50 *** UserErr0r [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:52 <OwenS> It's text mode... 22:12:56 <SpComb> my lynx uses 5MB! 22:13:08 <bruce89> i have to say that firefox is nasty for the whole memory issues 22:14:11 <SpComb> firefox's icon is just better than operas :) 22:15:00 <bruce89> it is rather nice, shame it's licencing is all wierd 22:15:04 <OwenS> I like the CrystalOpera logo 22:15:35 <SpComb> is FF 'free as in freedom' anyways? 22:15:43 <bruce89> yes 22:15:47 <bruce89> opera isnt 22:16:19 <lolman> As long as I'm not breaking the law by downloading it and installing it without paying anything, I'm not fussed 22:16:26 <OwenS> I'm of the opinion Linus is though: Use whats best 22:16:44 <bruce89> that's why i use epiphan 22:16:52 <OwenS> Epiphany? 22:17:04 <OwenS> Have they even got that to work with a newer moz release than 1.7? 22:17:08 * SpComb will use what he feels like using 22:17:16 <SpComb> nothing wrong with firefox... some just thing opera is better 22:17:18 <bruce89> yes 22:17:29 <bruce89> i'm using gecko 1.8.1 with it just now 22:17:32 <SpComb> there is something wrong with IE though :) 22:17:40 <OwenS> :) 22:17:47 <OwenS> It's like it has 2 conflicing rendering engines 22:19:49 <lolman> OwenS: any widgets you reckon I should get for this thing? 22:20:00 <OwenS> Ive never used them 22:20:08 <lolman> Okies 22:21:07 * lolman grabs the BitTorrent one 22:21:12 *** Tefad_ [~tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:37 *** coppercore [~coppercor@dpc6745112031.direcpc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:02 *** Tefad [~tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:27 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:16 *** coppercore [~coppercor@dpc6745112031.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 22:25:47 <lolman> Ooh I like the BitTorrent client it has :) 22:25:58 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:21 <bruce89> ach, i prefer one use, one app 22:26:21 * lolman changes Firefox shortcut on GNOME's panel to an Opera one 22:27:23 <OwenS> Don't use the BT widget then 22:27:52 <lolman> OwenS: the widget searches for torrents 22:28:02 <lolman> It doesn't download them :) 22:28:29 <OwenS> Ohj 22:29:07 <lolman> The inbuilt torrent client deals with that 22:29:09 <lolman> :) 22:29:44 <bruce89> yikes 22:30:12 <bruce89> with all those things, how does it manage to use so little memort 22:30:29 <Bjarni> hahaha, my overlay in google earth just failed in a funny way. The actual layer keeps updating correctly (live update on lighting), but the banner just reported that it failed 22:30:29 <Bjarni> so now I get the updates, but without the commercial in the corner :D 22:30:38 <Bjarni> cool failure xD 22:31:17 <bruce89> adblock would do that 22:31:26 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Trolley Error: Driver reports stuck door, logic ejected.] 22:31:34 *** lolman_ [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 22:31:35 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by lolman_))] 22:31:39 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 22:31:59 <lolman> Damn connection 22:32:28 <OwenS> bruce89: If I remember correctly, each part of Opera is both well opimized and also stored as a DSO, only loaded as needed 22:32:52 <bruce89> sounds like majc to me 22:32:56 * XeryusTC slaps Bjarni and runs to #openttdcoop 22:33:12 <bruce89> but still, i prefer nice integration 22:33:43 <bruce89> actually, doesn't firefox have more lines of code than the linux kernel? 22:34:16 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 22:34:25 <OwenS> bruce89: I doubt it 22:34:39 <OwenS> Linux has more device drivers in it than any other 22:35:01 <lolman> Linux is a big bugger 22:35:05 <bruce89> no, sorry, it doesn't 22:35:27 <bruce89> firefox - 1,853,257; kernel - 3,255,309 22:35:31 <OwenS> Hehe 22:36:13 <bruce89> http://scan.coverity.com/ 22:37:07 <bruce89> i think they got Gnome wrong - 31,457 22:37:17 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@AC8F1603.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:19 <OwenS> Gnome itself is very small 22:37:27 <OwenS> Heck, what exactly IS gnome itself? 22:37:32 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 22:37:35 <bruce89> even they don't know 22:37:51 <OwenS> Haha, NetBSD is bigger than Linux 22:38:13 <OwenS> (For the obvious reason of it running on every system under the sun including a toaster!) 22:38:21 <lolman> Lol 22:38:35 <bruce89> GDB is bigger than GCC 22:38:53 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:39:00 <OwenS> Thats just silly but reasonable 22:39:11 <OwenS> Wait... No 22:39:20 <OwenS> GCC needs more abstraction 22:39:31 <OwenS> Unless they only count cc, not g++/cxx/etc 22:39:36 <bruce89> i think their numbers are all tae pot 22:39:52 *** Ammler [~marcel@69.152.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:07 <bruce89> i like the fixed vunreabilties - gnome - 354, kde - 838 22:40:27 <OwenS> KDE is still better 22:40:33 <OwenS> And how much more source does KDE have? ;) 22:40:44 <lolman> I'm not a fan of KDE 22:40:45 <bruce89> more 22:40:59 <bruce89> but gnome 's is all wrong 22:41:36 <lolman> X.org's is even worse 22:41:50 <lolman> 25,499 lines?? 22:42:04 <bruce89> again, that's just the core 22:42:13 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:22 <lolman> Yeah, X.org7 is modular, is it not? 22:42:37 <OwenS> Yeah 22:42:44 <bruce89> Defect Reports / KLOC is the best comaprison 22:43:07 <lolman> (the only one to hit more than 1 is Thunderbird) 22:43:16 <OwenS> :O 22:43:29 <bruce89> yikes, thats bad 22:44:22 <OwenS> Why is Thunderbird not 1,800,000 lines like Firefox? 22:44:30 <OwenS> Thunderbird requires more than firefox! 22:44:54 <bruce89> i assume that gecko is in the firefox listing 22:45:05 <bruce89> and thunderbird's gecko isnt 22:45:17 <OwenS> Thunderbird should include it all OR Gecko should be it's own independent project 22:45:53 <bruce89> gecko is getting split off into xulrunner 22:45:53 * lolman loves Opera now 22:45:58 <OwenS> :) 22:46:15 <lolman> It seems more polished than Firefox 22:46:16 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-195-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 22:46:23 <bruce89> shiny? 22:46:30 <lolman> And you're right, it renders better 22:46:59 <lolman> bruce89: not quite :P 22:47:15 <bruce89> bye 22:47:18 *** bruce89 [~bruce@81-178-107-81.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:47:24 <lolman> You off? 22:47:26 <lolman> Yes 22:47:30 <lolman> lol 22:47:33 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:47:41 <OwenS> lolmanlols... 22:48:01 <OwenS> I wonder how long Hitman 2 will take to get here 22:48:02 <lolman> OwenS: I like how Opera puts stuff where it should be as soon as it gets the code, not when everything else is loaded 22:48:07 <OwenS> Hehe :) 22:49:08 <lolman> Oh Noes! It's Sacro! 22:49:25 <Sacro> :o lies 22:49:50 <lolman> It's someone disguising as Sacro!! 22:51:36 <Sacro> :o oh noes 22:52:35 <lolman> Sacro: I see you didn't burn half of Beverly down :-D 22:52:55 <lolman> +e 22:57:46 *** Netsplit hydrogen.oftc.net <-> helium.oftc.net quits: StormDragoness, Spoco, XeryusTC, coppercore, robobed, PAStheLoD, egladil, ThePizzaKing, lolman, sayno, (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:58:09 *** Netsplit over, joins: AciD, sayno, lolman, coppercore, PAStheLoD 22:58:09 <Sacro> errm, ok 22:58:11 <lolman> Ouch 22:58:18 <lolman> wtf? 22:58:21 *** Netsplit over, joins: KritiK, Spoco, ChrisM87, @Bjarni, OwenS, robobed, ThePizzaKing, XeryusTC, Jezral, Naksu (+4 more) 22:58:21 <Sacro> bwahahaha, it got Bjarni 22:58:32 <OwenS> Haha 22:58:44 <OwenS> !seen yourself 22:58:46 <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing yourself. 22:58:52 <OwenS> !seen myself 22:58:52 <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing myself. 22:58:54 <OwenS> Is better :P 22:59:04 <Bjarni> !seen celestar 22:59:04 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing celestar. 22:59:06 <OwenS> !seen you 22:59:08 <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing you. 22:59:15 <Bjarni> --- Notify: Celestar is online (xenon.oftc.net). 22:59:16 <lolman> !seen me 22:59:18 <DorpsGek> lolman, I don't remember seeing me. 22:59:19 <Bjarni> he is here somewhere 22:59:27 *** Full [Full@user-54401bb7.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:59:28 *** OwenS is now known as you 22:59:31 *** you is now known as OwenS 22:59:33 <OwenS> !seen you 22:59:34 <DorpsGek> OwenS, I found 3 matches to your query: OwenS, you, DeadOwenS. OwenS (~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) was last seen changing his/her nick from you on #openttd 3 seconds ago (16.08. 22:59). OwenS is still there. 22:59:38 <Full> hi 22:59:39 <OwenS> Haha, I broke it now :D 22:59:49 *** OwenS is now known as DorpsGeek 22:59:50 <Bjarni> well, you don't know what I did to XeryusTC 22:59:51 *** DorpsGeek is now known as OwenS 23:00:03 <Bjarni> and the reason why he ran off 23:00:06 <OwenS> !seen OwenS 23:00:06 <DorpsGek> OwenS, do you have a split personality? *eg* 23:00:15 <OwenS> !seen DorpsGek 23:00:17 <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 23:00:17 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: you just slapped me twice 23:00:23 <Bjarni> he slapped me and ran off to #openttdcoop 23:00:27 <lolman> !seen DorpsGeek 23:00:28 <DorpsGek> lolman, DorpsGeek (~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 35 seconds ago (16.08. 22:59). OwenS is still there. 23:00:31 <Bjarni> then I joined, slapped him and parted 23:00:59 *** OwenS is now known as roflman 23:00:59 <Bjarni> then later I slapped him for running off and then I parted right away (again) 23:01:01 *** roflman is now known as lmaoman 23:01:02 *** lmaoman is now known as OwenS 23:01:03 *** Full [Full@user-54401bb7.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 23:01:16 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: no you didn't, there was a long time between it 23:01:18 *** Sacro is now known as JohnUK89 23:01:19 *** Full [BRKing@user-54401bb7.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:01:21 <JohnUK89> mwahaha 23:01:24 *** JohnUK89 is now known as Sacro 23:01:24 <XeryusTC> but the irc bridge doesnt warn me of joins 23:01:28 *** Full [BRKing@user-54401bb7.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 23:01:34 <XeryusTC> but you can't ever find me @ TweakIRC :P 23:01:40 <Bjarni> XeryusTC: I didn't mention time between the slaps 23:01:51 <Bjarni> I mentioned time from the slaps to my parting 23:01:53 <Sacro> bums, services is down 23:01:58 <Bjarni> big difference 23:02:06 *** BRKing1 [BRKing@user-54401bb7.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:02:19 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: you said you joined, slapped and parted 23:02:25 <Bjarni> I did 23:02:28 *** OwenS is now known as JohnUK89 23:02:32 <XeryusTC> but there was a huge time difference between the joining and slapping once 23:02:34 <JohnUK89> This should mess up Dorpsgek :) 23:02:35 <Bjarni> [00:38] --> You are now talking on #openttdcoop 23:02:35 <Bjarni> [00:38] --- Topic for #openttdcoop is #openttdcoop: Cooperative OpenTTD Game Play | Wiki: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/ | Join the Coopetition: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Coopetition 23:02:35 <Bjarni> [00:38] --- Topic for #openttdcoop set by valhallasw!~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl at Sun Aug 13 12:28:37 2006 23:02:35 <Bjarni> [00:38] <sandbox> Ammler: bye mucht 23:02:35 <Bjarni> [00:38] --- Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 23:02:37 *** JohnUK89 is now known as OwenS 23:02:39 <Bjarni> [00:38] <sandbox> mowl: less would jam the mainline 23:02:41 <Bjarni> [00:39] * Bjarni slaps XeryusTC 23:02:44 <Bjarni> [00:39] --- You have left channel #openttdcoop (Leaving) 23:03:00 <Bjarni> !seen johnuk89 23:03:02 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, JohnUK89 (~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 24 seconds ago (16.08. 23:02). OwenS is still there. 23:03:14 <OwenS> !seen deadlolman 23:03:16 <DorpsGek> OwenS, Hum... don't you think this nick is a bit long? ^_^ 23:03:18 <Sacro> that isnt right... 23:03:26 <Sacro> !seen Sacro_ 23:03:26 <OwenS> ? 23:03:27 <Bjarni> !seen _lolman 23:03:28 <DorpsGek> Sacro, I found 3 matches to your query: Sacro, Sacro_, Guest275. Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen changing his/her nick from JohnUK89 on #openttd 2 minutes ago (16.08. 23:01). Sacro is still there. 23:03:30 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, _lolman? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember _lolman. 23:03:41 <Bjarni> !seen lolman 23:03:42 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 23:03:45 <Bjarni> !seen lolman_ 23:03:46 <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I found 4 matches to your query: lolman, lolman_, deadlolman, john. lolman (~john@149.254.200.215) was last seen rejoining #openttd from a netsplit 5 minutes ago (16.08. 22:58) lolman is still there. 23:03:46 <OwenS> !seen deadlolman 23:03:48 <DorpsGek> OwenS, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you? 23:04:01 <OwenS> DorpsGek: You are stupid 23:04:04 <Bjarni> hey, it noticed that it was a netsplit 23:04:07 <Bjarni> clever bot 23:04:22 <BRKing1> i think its limited to 9 characters 23:04:38 <OwenS> !seen deadlolma 23:04:38 <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing deadlolma. 23:04:39 <Bjarni> TL needs to improve that when he returns 23:04:39 <Sacro> wtf is Guest275 23:04:39 <Sacro> !seen Guest275 23:04:39 <Sacro> bots dead... 23:04:40 <Sacro> !seen Sacro_ 23:04:40 <Sacro> or i am 23:04:40 <DorpsGek> Sacro, I found 3 matches to your query: Sacro, Sacro_, Guest275. Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen changing his/her nick from JohnUK89 on #openttd 3 minutes ago (16.08. 23:01). Sacro is still there. 23:04:42 <Sacro> it has gone all quiet... 23:04:42 <DorpsGek> Sacro, I found 3 matches to your query: Sacro, Sacro_, Guest275. Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen changing his/her nick from JohnUK89 on #openttd 3 minutes ago (16.08. 23:01). Sacro is still there. 23:04:43 <lolman> Who wants to try changing to JohnUK89 again? :) 23:04:44 <Sacro> hello? 23:04:46 <Sacro> is there anybody there? 23:04:46 <Sacro> :o now thats lag 23:04:57 <SpComb> Sacro: no, that's a flood! 23:04:59 *** OwenS is now known as JohnUK89 23:04:59 <JohnUK89> :P 23:05:01 *** JohnUK89 is now known as OwenS 23:05:10 <lolman> lol 23:05:10 <Sacro> SpComb: no, my client stopped receiving 23:05:18 <Sacro> i was waiting for the ping timeout 23:05:18 <OwenS> !seen JohnUK89 23:05:20 <DorpsGek> OwenS, JohnUK89 (~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 18 seconds ago (16.08. 23:05). OwenS is still there. 23:05:29 <SpComb> Sacro: everything that you said arrived here as a sudden flood 23:05:38 *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [now I found you John. There is no need to hide anymore] 23:05:46 <lolman> :-D 23:05:49 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:05:52 <OwenS> Pfft 23:06:05 <Bjarni> you still use your faked name 23:06:28 <OwenS> Bjarni has gone mad... 23:06:28 <BRKing1> !crash 23:06:36 <OwenS> !spam 23:06:36 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:06:43 <OwenS> !commands 23:06:44 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:06:44 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:06:44 <roboboy> * commands start with a !: (robobot) spam, wut, dance, channel, huggle, moo, beer, coke, crisps, girlfriend, nowplaying, present, chanlist, time, date, day, peak. Please dont use the spammy commands in #tycoon and please dont use !spam in #openttd. 23:06:50 <OwenS> !wut 23:06:50 * roboboy Wutwut? 23:06:58 <BRKing1> !Shutdown 23:07:10 <lolman> !diebotdie 23:07:10 <OwenS> !peak 23:07:10 <roboboy> #openttd achieved a max peak of 99 users by Zahl on Sat Aug 12 22:25:18 2006. 23:07:16 <OwenS> !day 23:07:23 <Bjarni> !moo 23:07:23 <OwenS> !nowplaying 23:07:23 <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo Bjarni 23:07:24 * roboboy is now playing: John Broomhall - Movin' On 23:07:26 <Bjarni> !beer 23:07:27 * roboboy gives Bjarni a beer 23:07:31 <Bjarni> :D 23:07:35 <OwenS> !coke 23:07:35 <roboboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then OwenS. 23:07:39 <Sacro> !huggle 23:07:39 * roboboy huggles Sacro 23:07:43 <Sacro> awwwww 23:07:45 <lolman> ewwww 23:07:47 <Sacro> !huggle Bjarni 23:07:47 * roboboy huggles Sacro 23:07:53 <Bjarni> :P 23:07:53 <BRKing1> !moo 23:07:54 <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo BRKing1 23:08:00 <Bjarni> ! girlfriend 23:08:02 <OwenS> !moo !moo 23:08:02 <Sacro> !spam 23:08:02 <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo OwenS 23:08:03 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:08:03 <Bjarni> !girlfriend 23:08:04 <roboboy> You're asking a BOT for a girlfriend?? 23:08:13 <OwenS> !moo moo moo 23:08:13 <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo OwenS 23:08:26 <lolman> !vodka 23:08:27 <lolman> :P 23:08:29 <SpComb> all ready for !spam in unision? 23:08:30 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:08:35 <Bjarni> <roboboy> You're asking a BOT for a girlfriend?? <-- not really. I just wanted to test the script 23:08:45 <SpComb> everyone says !spam in 15 seconds! 23:08:46 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:08:51 <Sacro> !spam 23:08:51 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:08:55 <lolman> !spam 23:08:56 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:08:56 <BRKing1> !Spam 23:08:57 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:08:58 <BRKing1> !spam 23:08:59 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:00 <SpComb> !spam 23:09:01 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:02 <Sacro> !spam 23:09:03 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:08 <lolman> !spam 23:09:08 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:09 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:09 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:12 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:12 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:12 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:12 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:12 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:12 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:12 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:13 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:13 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:13 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:13 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:13 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:13 <Sacro> now all in #tycoon :D 23:09:13 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:15 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:15 <BRKing1> !spam!spam 23:09:16 <OwenS> Do I think some /kicks or /mode +b s are needed? 23:09:16 <SpComb> rather lame 23:09:17 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:17 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:17 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:19 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:19 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:19 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:21 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:21 <BRKing1> !spam!spam!spam 23:09:21 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:23 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:23 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:23 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:25 <BRKing1> !spam!spam 23:09:25 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:25 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:27 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:27 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:27 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:27 <SpComb> BRKing1: no need to be excessive 23:09:29 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:29 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:29 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:31 <BRKing1> !spam!spam 23:09:31 <BRKing1> !spam!spam 23:09:31 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:33 <BRKing1> !spam 23:09:33 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:35 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:37 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:38 <OwenS> Bjarni: Can we kick him? 23:09:39 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:41 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:43 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:45 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:47 <Bjarni> oh that reminds me of a bash quote. Two guys chat. After a while a 3rd person shows up and says "you do realise that you are chatting with a bot, right?" 23:09:49 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:51 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:53 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:53 <OwenS> rofl 23:09:53 * SpComb pokes Bjarni 23:09:55 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:09:57 <roboboy> Boooooooooom! 23:10:04 *** BRKing1 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [spam] 23:10:08 *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [ spam] 23:10:11 *** BRKing1 [BRKing@user-54401bb7.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:10:18 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:10:23 <OwenS> O.o WTF why me? :( 23:10:32 <BRKing1> you where spamming 23:10:48 *** SpComb was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [spam (as requested by YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!)] 23:11:08 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 23:11:09 <Sacro> XeryusTC: yeah, my bro has that in one of the rooms he goes in 23:11:16 <Bjarni> OwenS: oops, wrong guy :p 23:11:20 <OwenS> rofl 23:11:25 <SpComb> I find that unnesecary... but meh 23:11:28 <XeryusTC> OwenS: there is always enough reason to kick you :P 23:11:39 <Bjarni> it went a bit quick. The lines scrolled a bit fast, so I kicked an offender 23:11:48 <OwenS> O.o 23:11:50 <Bjarni> and hit your name on <OwenS> rofl 23:12:07 <glx> OwenS: spam is not funny 23:12:09 <Bjarni> I just saw spam and you said something :p 23:12:26 <lolman> Wrong place wrong time 23:12:28 <BRKing1> does anyone know how to get that web translator to work 23:12:29 <lolman> :) 23:12:35 <Bjarni> actually it's mainly BRKing1, who spammed 23:12:48 <glx> and the bot :) 23:12:49 <Bjarni> BRKing1: yeah. Log in and type in the strings 23:12:55 <SpComb> "O RLY?" 23:13:05 * SpComb retires for the night 23:13:07 <BRKing1> log in to where 23:13:07 <OwenS> Someone needs to give Roboboy a !kick command and give it +o :P 23:13:10 <lolman> "YER, RLY" 23:13:28 <lolman> !kick OwenS :P 23:13:31 <Sacro> lolman: YA RLY :| 23:13:40 *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Requested by lolman ] 23:13:45 <Bjarni> o_O 23:13:47 <lolman> :-D 23:13:49 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:51 <Bjarni> what happened? 23:13:53 <XeryusTC> lol 23:13:55 <OwenS> !kick lolman 23:14:07 *** lolman was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Requested by OwenS ] 23:14:13 <Bjarni> fuck 23:14:13 <Sacro> !kick Darkvater 23:14:19 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 23:14:22 <OwenS> zomg yay :P 23:14:24 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [not funny] 23:14:30 <XeryusTC> aw 23:14:35 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:14:39 <XeryusTC> i was about to say !kick Sacro 23:14:41 <XeryusTC> !kick Sacro 23:14:48 <BRKing1> !kick roboboy 23:14:53 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Requested by XeryusTC ] 23:15:01 <lolman> !kick BRKing1 23:15:10 <OwenS> !ban Sacro 23:15:10 <OwenS> :P 23:15:13 <BRKing1> !kick lolman 23:15:14 *** BRKing1 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [it's a bot. It can't be kicked] 23:15:28 * Bjarni just realised something 23:15:33 <OwenS> Yes? 23:15:35 <Bjarni> now I will look mean in the stats 23:15:39 <OwenS> rofl 23:15:42 <lolman> !stats 23:15:42 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 23:15:57 <XeryusTC> !beer 23:15:58 * roboboy gives XeryusTC a beer 23:15:58 *** BRKing1 [BRKing@user-5442deb5.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:16:01 <XeryusTC> :D 23:16:06 <OwenS> "Licensed, and has Health Certificate."" I can't remember saying that O.o 23:16:12 <BRKing1> oh its got the same blocking system as openttd 23:16:14 <lolman> !coke 23:16:14 <roboboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then lolman. 23:16:17 <lolman> :D 23:16:23 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:16:47 <glx> Bjarni is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 8 people! <-- only 8? 23:16:52 <OwenS> Bjarni can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on others 5 times. 23:16:59 <OwenS> Poor Bjarni, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 4 times. 23:17:01 <lolman> I've overtaken Sacro as the 4th most talkative person :P 23:17:11 <OwenS> I'm seccond :D 23:17:25 <XeryusTC> im 9th 23:17:30 <BRKing1> where is the stats shown 23:17:33 <XeryusTC> surprises me that only 2 days of talking gets me there :) 23:17:37 <OwenS> Bjarni spoke a total of 12421 words! 23:17:37 <XeryusTC> !stats 23:17:37 <OwenS> Bjarni's faithful follower, OwenS, didn't speak so much: 4175 words. 23:17:37 <OwenS> Large gap 23:17:39 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 23:17:41 <lolman> OwenS: add JohnUK89 to mine ;-) 23:17:53 <OwenS> IoebTTD is off the stats ^^ 23:17:54 <XeryusTC> XeryusTC seems to be sad at the moment: 5.6% lines contained sad faces. :( :( 23:17:55 <Sacro> :o damn you 23:17:56 <Bjarni> you guys talk too much 23:17:57 <Sacro> !stats 23:17:59 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 23:18:00 <OwenS> OpenTTD even 23:18:03 <XeryusTC> wait, lets do that properly: 23:18:05 <XeryusTC> XeryusTC seems to be sad at the moment: 5.6% lines contained sad faces. :( <- :( 23:18:07 <Bjarni> izhirahider wrote an average of 37.00 words per line. 23:18:08 <Bjarni> Channel average was 6.94 words per line. 23:18:27 <Sacro> bums, i was at 3rd or something on the previous one 23:18:37 <Sacro> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/stats 23:18:38 <lolman> Sacro: lol 23:18:46 <Bjarni> lolman always lets us know what he/she's doing: 51 actions! 23:18:47 <Bjarni> For example, like this: 23:18:47 <Bjarni> * lolman had best shut up :P 23:18:47 <Bjarni> Also, JohnUK89 tells us what's up with 40 actions. 23:18:55 <lolman> I'm sure I'll have Darkvater overtaken by the end of the night 23:19:05 <lolman> LOL 91 actions by me :P 23:19:18 <Sacro> Sacro1 always lets us know what he/she's doing: 472 actions! :D 23:19:24 <Bjarni> Darkvater: now you need to talk or I will have to ban lolman 23:19:38 * XeryusTC slaps lolman, stats worshipping is bad 23:19:39 <lolman> Bjarni: noooooooooooooo 23:19:45 <Bjarni> Sacro couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 21 joins during this reporting period! 23:19:52 <Bjarni> Sacro: get a new and more stable ISP :p 23:20:00 * OwenS slaps Lolman: Don't try and overtake me! 23:20:12 * lolman slaps XeryusTC back, no it isn't :P 23:20:17 <izhirahider> 37 words per line? That mean I talk that much 23:20:17 <XeryusTC> joining all the time is for fags 23:20:20 <lolman> OwenS: lol :) 23:20:22 <Bjarni> I like how linux gets used all the time 23:20:36 <Sacro> :D SPCOMP IS STILL LOGGING IN HERE 23:20:52 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 23:20:52 <lolman> !logs 23:20:57 <OwenS> Haha 23:21:00 <lolman> So he is :-D 23:21:09 <izhirahider> Bjarni, are the channel stats online? 23:21:12 <OwenS> I like how the only reference to "Licensed, and has Health Certificate." in the logs is me saying 02:16:06 < OwenS> "Licensed, and has Health Certificate."" I can't remember saying that O.o 23:21:15 <Bjarni> you guys like me a lot 23:21:17 <Sacro> wtf, i have over 10000 lines 23:21:25 <Bjarni> you referred to me 278 times 23:21:27 <Bjarni> !stats 23:21:29 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 23:21:31 <Bjarni> izhirahider: here you go 23:21:41 <lolman> Bjarni: lol 23:22:19 <Sacro> izhirahider: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/stats 23:22:32 *** BRKing1 [BRKing@user-5442deb5.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 23:22:54 <XeryusTC> Sacro: lol, it has my quit scrip quote in it 23:23:06 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:09 <Bjarni> in the old stats, I was once listed as mean due to many kicks and unliked because I was kicked so many times 23:23:19 <Bjarni> when I noticed, I said "I better stop kicking myself" 23:23:35 <OwenS> Haha 23:23:47 <Sacro> lol 23:24:16 <lolman> lol 23:24:36 <Bjarni> CIA-5 seems to be sad at the moment: 22.7% lines contained sad faces. :( 23:24:37 * XeryusTC doesnt that it's funny 23:24:53 <XeryusTC> time to sleep 23:24:59 *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89 23:25:00 <izhirahider> Bjarni, which timezone is the server that creates the stats for this? 23:25:01 <Bjarni> the commit message contains : and then (files) 23:25:10 <Bjarni> MET, I think 23:25:17 <Bjarni> everything OTTD is in that timezone 23:25:22 <OwenS> We still lack CIA-5 and it's banned from the old channel now... As am I anyway... 23:25:23 <Bjarni> makes it easier 23:25:33 <OwenS> MET? UTC offest 23:25:45 <izhirahider> that's GMT-? 23:25:46 * Sacro kicks CiA-5 23:25:49 <Sacro> aww :( 23:25:50 <OwenS> I was sitting there redirecting clueless users 23:25:57 <Sacro> OwenS: UTC === UTC 23:26:04 <JohnUK89> Sacro: he was banned anyway lol 23:26:16 * OwenS thinks he should start talking by saying /me says 23:26:33 * JohnUK89 thinks OwenS shouldn't 23:26:39 * OwenS thinks he should 23:26:48 * OwenS thinks this will become a /me-war 23:26:53 * JohnUK89 will slap OwenS if he does 23:26:53 * lws1984 runs 23:27:02 <Bjarni> next guy to say anything will be kicked 23:27:08 * JohnUK89 trips lws1984 up 23:27:08 <Bjarni> I mean with a /me 23:27:23 <JohnUK89> :o 23:27:24 <OwenS> * sighs 23:27:28 <JohnUK89> I lagged! 23:27:38 *** JohnUK89 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [you spoke] 23:27:47 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 23:27:51 * OwenS can do this again now ^^ 23:27:55 <JohnUK89> lol ya bugger :P 23:28:04 *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [who said you could do that] 23:28:11 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:28:19 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: good to see you are impartial :) 23:28:19 <OwenS> Bastard! 23:28:28 <JohnUK89> Oh and I think nickserv has died... 23:28:29 <OwenS> * Bjarni should insert a witty bofh quote here * 23:28:30 <Bjarni> a ban is in effect until declared void 23:28:42 <OwenS> You said NEXT PERSON, not that it was banned 23:29:05 <Bjarni> once JohnUK89 was kicked, you ended up being the next person 23:29:15 <Bjarni> go figure 23:29:20 <Bjarni> it's not that hard to understand 23:29:27 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: impartial as ever ;-) 23:30:30 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:30:34 * OwenS takes a match to those ban signs 23:30:38 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:39 *** OwenS is now known as lolman 23:30:41 *** lolman is now known as OwenS 23:30:48 <OwenS> !seen lolman 23:30:49 <DorpsGek> OwenS, lolman (~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 7 seconds ago (16.08. 23:30). OwenS is still there. 23:30:54 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 23:30:58 *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89 23:31:09 *** OwenS is now known as lolman 23:31:11 *** lolman is now known as OwenS 23:31:13 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 23:31:15 *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89 23:31:17 <Bjarni> the next guy to steal the kick from another guy will be banned 23:31:31 <Bjarni> for a whole 5 sec 23:31:37 <OwenS> XP 23:31:41 <JohnUK89> I would ghost you OwenS, but nickserv's dead :) 23:31:58 <Sacro_> JohnUK89: /nick NickServ :P 23:32:16 <Sacro_> double dares ya 23:32:18 <OwenS> I wonder what the ops would do... 23:32:22 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I'm sure I'd get banned off the server for that 23:32:24 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 23:32:26 <OwenS> I can imagine 23:32:39 * Sacro hunts for a proxy 23:32:40 <OwenS> * JohnUK89 changes nameto NickServ 23:32:53 <OwenS> * NickServ gets set mode +b by OPNAMEHERE 23:33:00 <JohnUK89> Nah that didn't quite work ;-) 23:33:01 <OwenS> (reason: Impersonating NickServ) 23:33:06 <OwenS> Or whatever... 23:33:13 <OwenS> Tor? 23:33:15 <Sacro> oooh...freeOSzoo :D 23:33:40 <JohnUK89> Sacro: the downloads are slow off there 23:34:11 <Sacro> JohnUK89: who said anything about downloading... 23:34:19 <JohnUK89> Sacro: me :P 23:34:48 * Sacro thinks... 23:35:49 <glx> bad idea :) 23:35:57 <Bjarni> now JohnUK89 and OwenS: go back to your real names 23:36:03 <JohnUK89> What you thinking? Oh...I don't wanna know do I? 23:36:05 <OwenS> We are 23:36:11 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: this is my real name :) 23:36:42 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/64298 <-- once again Sacro ended up in a quote 23:37:14 <Sacro> :o agaom 23:37:23 <Sacro> you searched for Bjarni recently ;) 23:37:53 <Bjarni> yeah 23:38:02 <Bjarni> I rule all of the results :D 23:39:53 *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman 23:40:01 *** UE|sleepingtiem [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:07 <Sacro> tum te tum... 23:40:31 *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ 23:40:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 23:40:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 23:40:53 *** UserErr0r [MiniUrban@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:56 <lolman> yay services are back 23:41:08 <Sacro> http://www.qdb.us/50284 pmsl, that was about the time when i first came in here 23:42:36 <Sacro> http://www.qdb.us/56883 :o 23:44:26 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 23:44:26 <Sacro> !logs 23:44:31 <Sacro> so i am still here... 23:44:36 <Sacro> now where is everyone else 23:45:06 <OwenS> #openttd2 23:45:07 * Sacro prods Bjarni lolman OwenS 23:45:11 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:18 <lolman> Well I'm still here lol 23:45:20 <Sacro> nope, just me in there 23:46:38 <lolman> Sacro: you FELL for it? 23:46:40 * Sacro moons the channel 23:46:44 <Sacro> fell for waht? 23:46:52 <lolman> #openttd2 23:47:03 <Sacro> errr...nooooooooo 23:47:32 <lolman> [00:45] <Sacro> nope, just me in there 23:47:36 <lolman> Yes you did :P 23:47:40 <OwenS> rofl 23:47:47 <Sacro> [00:49] * OwenS (~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) has joined #openttd2 23:48:10 <lolman> It's not even 00:49 yet :P 23:48:22 <Sacro> people have been known to move channels and leave me 23:49:18 <lolman> Lol 23:49:27 <lolman> but #openttd2 it plain stupid :) 23:49:31 <lolman> is* 23:49:34 <OwenS> Hehe 23:49:37 <OwenS> Warning: unlink(/home/.lauper/qvtqht/cacheqdb/quote/46199): No such file or directory in /home/.lauper/qvtqht/qdb.us/module/cache.php on line 121 23:49:37 <OwenS> 23:49:37 <OwenS> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.lauper/qvtqht/qdb.us/module/cache.php:121) in /home/.lauper/qvtqht/qdb.us/index.php on line 2500 23:51:22 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@pool-71-98-70-28.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:51:36 <OwenS> Oh good, I only appear once on QDB (!kick) and never on Bash 23:52:07 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has left #openttd [] 23:52:38 <Sacro> heh 23:52:46 <Sacro> i appear a few tiems on qdb 23:52:49 <Sacro> not sure about bash 23:52:52 * Sacro goes and looks 23:52:54 <OwenS> I know that already 23:53:08 <OwenS> <Sacro> is paranoia when you keep searching your nick in qdb :S 23:53:09 <OwenS> <Bjarni> no, but saying stuff like that gives you a good change of getting added 23:53:09 <OwenS> :) 23:53:20 <Sacro> bloody did an all 23:53:31 <Sacro> i blame the dutch! 23:53:39 <Sacro> or the danish...i always get confused 23:54:30 <OwenS> I wish someone needed a Linux benchmarking utility right about now... 23:54:41 <OwenS> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp would be fun 23:54:54 <lolman> Lol 23:56:12 *** sayno_ [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 23:56:20 <Sacro> heh, checkout my benchmarking util on qdb 23:56:31 <OwenS> That was my inspiration 23:56:40 <Sacro> OwenS: cat `yes` > /dev/dsp is cool 23:56:46 <OwenS> That too 23:56:53 <OwenS> yes > /dev/dsp also works 23:57:26 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:07 <lolman> I'm not sure I like the idea of sending garbage to my speakers :) 23:59:28 <lolman> I'm also not sure I should be awake, I need to be up in 6 hours 23:59:30 <Sacro> pmsl, i love getting spam on skype, i always end up chatting to the guy 23:59:35 <OwenS> a=ura;b=d;z=ndo;x=s;y=m;s=p; cat `echo /dev/$a$z$y` > `echo /dev/$b$x$s`