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00:00:01 <lolman> Lol OwenS 00:00:02 <Sacro> OwenS: ooh, obfuscation 00:00:11 <Sacro> lolman: ls `yes` 00:00:12 <lolman> Nice way of saying it :) 00:00:19 <lolman> Sacro: no :P 00:00:40 <Sacro> aww :( 00:00:41 <Sacro> anyone else? 00:02:15 <lolman> Sacro: if you give a command that won't screw something up someone might use it ;-) 00:02:49 <Sacro> lolman: cat /dev/urandom /dev/hda 00:03:01 <lolman> Erm, no 00:03:13 <lolman> I'm not trashing my hard drive :) 00:03:19 <Sacro> it might not 00:03:31 <Sacro> theres a slight possibility it'll generate the correct data 00:03:32 <lolman> Actually, it'll do nowt, because I don't have a /dev/hda ;-) 00:03:36 <Sacro> 50/50 per bit 00:04:24 <Sacro> i wonder if theres a petition to get IE7 banned from being distributed with Vista 00:04:40 <lolman> Sacro: most likely, but it'll fail 00:05:56 <Sacro> pmsl. some arabic dude preaching about islam to me has just been pwned by yours truely 00:05:58 <OwenS> o=dev;n=/;m=$n$o$n;g=u;h=r;i=a;j=n;k=d;l=o;a=$g$h$i;b=d;c=$j$k$l;d=s;e=m;f=p; cat `echo /dev/$a$c$e` > `echo $m$b$d$f` 00:05:58 <OwenS> now :P 00:06:25 * Sacro considers it 00:06:43 <lolman> OwenS: just another HDD trashing method ;-) 00:06:55 <OwenS> No, thats /dev/dsp still 00:07:01 <Sacro> HTLF+@+??+?? · $ <--- MY PROMPT 00:07:01 <lolman> Aah lol 00:08:11 <OwenS> r=cat;q=echo;o=dev;n=/;m=$n$o$n;p=$m;g=u;h=r;i=a;j=n;k=d;l=o;a=$g$h$i;b=d;c=$j$k$l;d=s;e=m;f=p; $q `$r \`$q $p$a$c$e\` > \`$q $m$b$d$f\`` 00:08:19 <OwenS> Is it just me or is that becoming pure evil? 00:08:21 <Bjarni> [01:53] <Sacro> bloody did an all 00:08:21 <Bjarni> [01:53] <Sacro> i blame the dutch! 00:08:21 <Bjarni> [01:53] <Sacro> or the danish...i always get confused 00:08:35 <Bjarni> so geography is not your strong side 00:08:39 <Sacro> Bjarni: no 00:08:47 <Sacro> .dk 00:08:50 <Bjarni> what IS your strong side? 00:08:54 <Sacro> thats denmark...and hence... errm 00:08:55 <Bjarni> slackery? 00:09:09 <Sacro> denmarkian! 00:09:31 <lolman> Sacro: the word is Danish ;-) 00:09:54 <Bjarni> Sacro: what IS your strong side? 00:10:13 <Bjarni> that is, if you have any 00:10:28 <Sacro> errm, im quite good at errm...stuff, and... other thing 00:10:29 <Sacro> s 00:10:31 <lolman> I think his strong side is breaking laptops :-D 00:11:01 <Sacro> lolman: yeah :( 00:11:04 <Bjarni> Sacro: slackery? 00:11:07 <Sacro> and getting peeved with IE 00:11:18 <lolman> Sacro: IE sucks :P 00:11:28 <Bjarni> that's why Sacro likes it 00:11:38 <Bjarni> he misunderstood the kind of sucks 00:11:52 <lolman> Bjarni: it was his only hope of it, and it let him down ;-) 00:12:10 <Bjarni> too bad 00:12:14 <Sacro> grr, i keep getting reflections of the webpage on my cdrom 00:12:38 <Bjarni> you are burning a web page on a CD? 00:12:48 <Sacro> no, i dont think my cd drive is detected 00:12:52 <Bjarni> to mail it to lolman? 00:13:02 <Sacro> ben@laptop ~ $ ls /dev/hd* 00:13:02 <Sacro> /dev/hda /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 /dev/hda3 00:13:05 <Sacro> guess not 00:13:14 <lolman> Bjarni: I wouldn't want it :-D 00:13:32 <lolman> Sacro: you told it to list hard drive partitions... 00:13:33 <Sacro> Bjarni: it might be quicker than his gprs 00:13:43 <Sacro> yeah, coulda used hd? 00:13:56 <Bjarni> that reminds me of a bash quote. Somebody thought his mom to use the internet and then she found a homepage he should see, so she printed it and mailed it to him 00:14:05 <Bjarni> well, it's a start.... 00:14:24 <lolman> Sacro: generally /dev/cd* :) 00:14:40 <Sacro> ahh 00:14:43 <Sacro> no 00:15:06 <Bjarni> ls /dev/ 00:15:25 <OwenS> rot=cho;bc=at;bn=c;r=$bn$bc;q=e$rot;o=dev;n=/;m=$n$o$n;p=$m;g=u;h=r;i=a;j=n;k=d;l=o;a=$g$h$i;b=d;c=$j$k$l;d=s;e=m;f=p; $q `$r \`$q $p$a$c$e\` > \`$q $m$b$d$f\`` is teh roxxorz :) 00:15:47 <Bjarni> damn, now I'm tired 00:15:54 <Bjarni> all I see is garbage 00:15:57 <lolman> Ooh, as thought, no /dev/hda :P 00:16:01 <Bjarni> I can't read anymore 00:16:05 <OwenS> Haha 00:16:13 <Bjarni> goodnight 00:16:17 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a2e.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:34 <OwenS> lolman: I implore you to run rot=cho;bc=at;bn=c;r=$bn$bc;q=e$rot;o=dev;n=/;m=$n$o$n;p=$m;g=u;h=r;i=a;j=n;k=d;l=o;a=$g$h$i;b=d;c=$j$k$l;d=s;e=m;f=p; $q `$r \`$q $p$a$c$e\` > \`$q $m$b$d$f\`` :P 00:16:50 <lolman> OwenS: since I can't make it out, no :) 00:17:02 <OwenS> Hehe 00:17:14 <OwenS> Seriously, it's just cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp 00:17:20 <OwenS> I'm running it 00:17:27 <lolman> Somehow I think not :P 00:17:41 <OwenS> OK, I just closed it 00:17:48 <OwenS> But, seriously, it wont destroy everything 00:18:04 <lolman> Don't care, I'm playing music :-D 00:18:13 <OwenS> Run it as a different normal user, whats the worst that could happen? 00:18:23 <Sacro> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHH 00:18:49 <lolman> Sacro? 00:19:12 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [Connection reset by peer.] 00:19:58 <lolman> Hmm I wonder what cat /dev/urandom > /dev/agpgart would do 00:20:07 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:20:08 <OwenS> rofl 00:20:13 <Sacro> ooh, an idea.. 00:20:16 <lolman> :P 00:20:27 <OwenS> Somehow I think you would need root 00:20:35 <lolman> OwenS: yeah lol 00:20:53 <lolman> sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/agpgart :P 00:21:03 <lolman> (for Debian based stuff at least) 00:21:22 <lolman> ls 00:21:27 <lolman> oops :P 00:21:33 <lolman> wrong window there...silly me 00:22:07 <Sacro> cat: write error: Invalid argument 00:22:31 <lolman> Sacro: what did you try there? 00:22:46 <Sacro> sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/agpgart 00:22:58 <lolman> Does your laptop HAVE agpgart? 00:23:15 <Sacro> yes 00:23:19 <lolman> Hmm 00:23:29 <lolman> If I get booted offline blame Sacro 00:23:36 <Sacro> hehes 00:23:47 <lolman> You were right 00:23:58 <lolman> Tried as root? 00:24:00 <lolman> Lol 00:24:21 <Sacro> sudo cat /dev/urandom /dev/core 00:24:29 <Sacro> sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/core even 00:24:32 <OwenS> rofl 00:24:41 <lolman> Nah 00:24:46 <lolman> :P 00:24:59 <lolman> sending randomness to consoles is fun 00:25:04 <Sacro> core is even better 00:25:07 <lolman> My num lock is flashing like mad :P 00:25:11 <Sacro> hehe 00:25:15 <OwenS> Why? 00:25:23 <lolman> Dunno 00:25:24 <lolman> lol 00:25:56 <lolman> In fact all three lights are 00:26:01 <lolman> Caps, Num and Scroll 00:26:51 <lolman> Oooerr it's screwed up gnome-panel 00:26:59 <Sacro> pmsl 00:27:08 * lolman restarts it 00:27:15 <lolman> Sorted :) 00:27:42 <lolman> Except tty1 looks strange now :) 00:28:05 <Sacro> just type reset 00:28:34 <lolman> sorted :) 00:29:11 * OwenS downloads DSL, to run in VMWare 00:29:26 <lolman> OwenS: I have it installed on my P2 :) 00:29:36 <Sacro> grrr, gvim is annoying me 00:29:47 <OwenS> People use gvim? :O 00:30:45 <Sacro> i try not to 00:30:59 <Sacro> keeps using gvim and xemacs 00:31:04 <OwenS> I use GEdit or Kaate 00:32:48 <OwenS> "Processor 0 is an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ etc" it knows that from VMWare? :O 00:34:27 <Sacro> for some reason 00:34:34 <Sacro> vim opens gvim in vi mode 00:41:49 <OwenS> I must admit im amazed how fast DSL boots in VMWare 00:42:27 <lolman> OwenS: fast in VMWare, slow on real hardware lol 00:42:34 <lolman> Well 00:42:37 <OwenS> O.o 00:42:40 <lolman> Slow on a 466MHz P2 :P 00:42:43 <OwenS> lol 00:42:49 <OwenS> That should be faster than VMWare though 00:42:49 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2F6CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:45 <lolman> Should it? 00:43:48 <lolman> Lol 00:43:53 <OwenS> VMWare has huge overheads 00:44:04 <OwenS> It's great for development but sucks in production 00:44:08 <lolman> Not enough to make it slower than a P2... 00:44:15 <OwenS> I dunno 00:44:23 <OwenS> Then again, VMWare is faster than many 00:44:32 <lolman> Yeah 00:44:37 <lolman> I tried it in Qemu...yuck 00:45:44 <lolman> I'm off to bed, night 00:45:54 <OwenS> Night 00:45:55 <Sacro> night lolman 00:46:08 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:25 <OwenS> O.o hmm 00:46:43 <OwenS> "Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 512kb cache 909mHz" 00:47:08 <Sacro> so? 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08:31:08 <MeusH> DEBUG(sth, sth)(string); 08:42:52 <MeusH> well it works, nvm 08:43:57 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D3EF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:49:23 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 08:59:04 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:04 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:00 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has joined #openttd 09:22:58 <Nigel> i wonder if this is intentional or not 09:23:02 *** lolman|away is now known as lolman 09:23:14 <Nigel> flat land, with a town 09:23:26 <lolman> Ello :) 09:23:49 <Nigel> if you lower say 3 corners of the grid down, on both ends, you can build tunnels on sea level under the town 09:24:14 <Nigel> (3 corners in a line) 09:25:00 * lolman slaps A Level examinors 09:25:10 <lolman> examiners* 09:26:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:16 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has joined #openttd 09:27:50 <MeusH> Nigel: what's wrong with it? 09:28:02 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:28:44 <Nigel> MeusH, well normally that level is sea, you can't have a tunnel sitting on sea 09:29:35 <MeusH> Nigel: I think this behaviour is good. Imagine you're building a train line and there is a steel mill or a town and you can't go around it 09:29:40 <MeusH> so you dig a tunnel 09:29:42 <MeusH> under it 09:29:54 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:30:10 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:30:23 <lolman> Nigel: think about the way that land works...it extends downwards further than sea level, so the tunnel wouldn't be "sitting" on sea, it would be gorged out of the land 09:30:52 <Patrick`> it'd be below the water table 09:31:03 <Patrick`> more pragmatically, we'd need a bigger map array 09:31:12 <lolman> Patrick`: yes, but it wouldn't be IN the sea 09:31:24 <lolman> It would just be very prone to floods 09:31:26 <Patrick`> openttd in unrealistic shocker 09:31:43 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:32:08 <Naksu> Patrick`: why not make the map array so that you can have everything for every time? :) 09:32:36 <lolman> Naksu: because the map array takes time to make ;-) 09:32:36 <Naksu> *tile 09:33:32 <Naksu> i mean, who cares if it takes 100 mb to hold a 256x256 map, we want underwater tunnels ;) 09:33:41 * Zahl cares 09:33:44 <peter1138> heh 09:34:55 <lolman> 100mb...I normally see that memory usage from 3d games...not OpenTTD 09:38:12 * lolman is a conversation killer :P 09:41:58 <Darkvater> !seen cia 09:41:58 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, I don't remember seeing cia. 09:42:01 <Darkvater> fuck 09:42:07 *** lolman was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [kick me, eh?] 09:42:16 <Darkvater> oops 09:42:21 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 09:42:24 <Darkvater> !seen sacro 09:42:24 <DorpsGek> Darkvater, Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen quitting #openttd 8 hours 5 minutes ago (17.08. 01:36) stating "Remote host closed the connection" after spending 1 hour 16 minutes there. 09:42:34 <lolman> Darkvater?? 09:42:34 <Darkvater> I'll get him eventually *g* 09:42:44 <Darkvater> < lolman> I'm sure I'll have Darkvater overtaken by the end of the night 09:42:51 <lolman> Lol 09:42:56 <Darkvater> I'm watching you boy... 09:42:59 <lolman> That was the number of lines thing 09:43:02 <lolman> !stats 09:43:02 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 09:43:47 <roboboy> the chanserve on OFTC seems more reliable than freenodes 09:44:23 <lolman> Oh and Darkvater: I overtook you ;-) 09:44:32 <lolman> And no doubt Sacro now... 09:47:35 <lolman> Ooh convo killer yet again 09:48:07 <Nigel> chanserv is only more stable, because it's not in the channel :P 09:48:56 <roboboy> ok 09:49:42 <Darkvater> lol 09:51:24 * lolman prepares to get booted offline 09:52:19 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:52:49 <mikl> roboboy: well, Freenode isn't all that well run 09:54:26 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:04 <MeusH> !help 10:00:06 <MeusH> !info 10:00:07 <MeusH> !about 10:00:11 <MeusH> ... 10:00:13 <Darkvater> !kick MeusH 10:00:16 <MeusH> no 10:00:19 <Darkvater> hehe 10:00:23 <MeusH> !abort 10:00:24 <MeusH> !cancel 10:00:41 <Darkvater> !too_late 10:00:52 <Darkvater> !enforce kick 10:01:01 <MeusH> !!!111oneoneone 10:01:10 <MeusH> !commands 10:01:11 <robotboy> Boooooooooom! 10:01:11 <robotboy> Boooooooooom! 10:01:11 <robotboy> * commands start with a !: (robobot) spam, wut, dance, channel, huggle, moo, beer, coke, crisps, girlfriend, nowplaying, present, chanlist, time, date, day, peak. Please dont use the spammy commands in #tycoon and please dont use !spam in #openttd. 10:01:15 <MeusH> wow 10:01:24 <MeusH> !moo 10:01:24 <robotboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo MeusH 10:01:29 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 10:01:34 <MeusH> !coke 10:01:34 <robotboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then MeusH. 10:01:44 <XeryusTC> !dance 10:01:44 * robotboy does the robobot dance 10:01:44 <MeusH> !spam 10:01:44 <robotboy> Boooooooooom! 10:01:50 <Darkvater> I'm warning you... 10:02:05 * MeusH whistles and goes away 10:02:22 <lolman> There we go, upgrade done :) 10:02:35 <lolman> And it didn't break my system :-D 10:03:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:03:31 <lolman> Brianetta: Morning 10:05:47 <Nigel> it's a pity you can't put signals in the middle of a tunnel 10:06:41 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:28 <Guest56> or on a bridge or in a station 10:08:38 <XeryusTC> why would you want to have signals in a station? 10:08:57 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 10:09:04 <Brianetta> morning 10:09:17 <Brianetta> XeryusTC: I want signals everywhere 10:09:17 <Guest56> next train could enter the station before the first one has finished his way out 10:09:18 <Darkvater> Bjarni: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26869&sid=6cd6115224691e63a83c69e929fc63f7 10:09:26 <Brianetta> Most of all, I want signals between tiles 10:09:34 <Brianetta> including station tiles (: 10:09:47 * XeryusTC puts a signal in Brianetta's bed 10:09:51 <Brianetta> Yey! 10:10:00 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:10:07 * Brianetta spoons with the signal 10:10:19 <XeryusTC> lol :D 10:13:44 <Guest56> will the signals be between tiles with the new map array? 10:14:48 <Guest56> + will this all famous new map array ever come?^^ 10:15:45 <Darkvater> muhahahha *evil* 10:15:51 <peter1138> hmm? 10:16:35 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 10:20:42 <Bjarni> Ran into problems sending Mail. Response: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later 10:20:43 <Bjarni> DEBUG MODE 10:20:43 <Bjarni> Line : 202 10:20:43 <Bjarni> File : smtp.php 10:20:47 <Bjarni> orudge: ping 10:21:00 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:04 <Bjarni> the forum didn't do as expected :( 10:22:12 *** egladil [~egladil@duregladil.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 10:22:18 <Darkvater> wb egladil 10:22:34 <MeusH> hello egladil 10:22:51 <Bjarni> now the forum worked... 10:22:56 <peter1138> smells of autoreconnect ;p 10:23:07 <MeusH> hmm hmm... ahem 10:23:08 <MeusH> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/283 10:23:12 <Bjarni> orudge: nice and quick fix well done :) 10:23:12 <MeusH> comments, please? 10:23:15 <Darkvater> hehe, original TT 10:23:18 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=104758#104758 10:23:53 <peter1138> ...? 10:24:00 <Gonozal_VIII> autoreconnect after 9 minutes? 10:24:11 <Darkvater> peter1138: what is it peter? keyboard is broken? 10:24:45 <Darkvater> ugh, pretty old topic @2003 ;o 10:24:55 <peter1138> Darkvater: exactly ;p 10:24:59 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> autoreconnect after 9 minutes? <-- nobody said that it should be a quick reconnect. It might have a timer to ensure that the ops don't get annoyed (too simple for that in here though) 10:25:06 <peter1138> Gonozal_VIII: hmm? looks like 2 minutes to me. hmm 10:25:22 <Bjarni> and a single minute to me 10:25:59 <Gonozal_VIII> [12:20:58] * egladil has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) <-- + 8 minutes 10:26:19 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I read though the whole TGP diff last night (boring!) and I didn't really find anything, that should prevent it from being merged 10:26:39 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:43 <Bjarni> Gonozal_VIII: well, the client have to realise that it dropped connection as well 10:26:47 <peter1138> there's the 32 widget issue 10:26:53 <Bjarni> yeah 10:27:01 <Bjarni> but I didn't find anything apart from that 10:27:57 <Bjarni> it works anyway (ugly workaround) and it will be made much nicer once the 32 widget limit is removed 10:27:58 <Gonozal_VIII> [06:44:55] * Disconnected 10:27:58 <Gonozal_VIII> [06:45:12] * Rejoined channel #openttd 10:27:58 <Gonozal_VIII> [06:49:55] * Gonozal_VIII has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) 10:28:05 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-ms.de/about/ttopcp5.jpg 10:28:09 <Gonozal_VIII> that happens when i autoreconnect 10:29:07 <Bjarni> peter1138: do you think we should postpone TGP until the widget issue is solved? 10:29:19 <peter1138> no idea, just pointing it out 10:29:47 <Gonozal_VIII> what is a widget? 10:29:54 <Bjarni> I think we can live with it, specially since it should be fixed in the trunk before 0.5.0 anyway (for all windows) 10:30:06 <Bjarni> Gonozal_VIII: a widget is the stuff the windows are made of 10:30:12 <Bjarni> so each button is a widget 10:30:24 <Bjarni> and everything else as well 10:30:36 <peter1138> yes, everything 10:30:39 <peter1138> Bjarni is a widget 10:30:43 <Bjarni> :p 10:30:52 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... thanks 10:30:52 <Bjarni> peter1138 is witty 10:31:04 <peter1138> yes 10:31:09 <peter1138> finally 10:31:21 <Darkvater> lol 10:32:32 <Gonozal_VIII> i always thougt it was something like a very small witch.. 10:32:51 <XeryusTC> lol 10:32:55 <Bjarni> Darkvater: what do you say? should we go ahead and merge despise the widget issue (which is currently insolvable until another branch is merged). They made this working workaround that draws two widgets on top of the window to allow it to work anyway 10:33:05 *** Spitfireleet [~samuelpou@host86-133-105-106.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:33:21 <Bjarni> if that is the only issue (it appears so), I see no reason to keep it away from the nightly builds 10:33:39 <Darkvater> woo, check this 10:33:42 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-ms.de/fahrzeuge/ttd1.htm 10:33:48 <Spitfireleet> how do i install openttd for ubuntu? 10:33:48 <Darkvater> TT future ships 10:33:49 <Darkvater> sweet 10:33:55 <peter1138> Bjarni: unfortunately, Darkvater appears to be stuck in the past 10:34:01 <Spitfireleet> tt future? linkage 10:34:17 <Darkvater> Bjarni: it's 'unsolvable' 10:34:17 <peter1138> opentto, maybe? 10:34:20 <XeryusTC> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/2006/08/15/a-small-bugreport/ <- should i add that bug report to flyspray too? 10:34:24 <Darkvater> gota have a look at it 10:34:28 <peter1138> what the hell 10:34:31 <Darkvater> Spitfireleet: what did you download? 10:34:38 <peter1138> that webpage gives me a tt cursor 10:34:47 <peter1138> that is cool, but... how? 10:34:48 <Darkvater> haha IE ownage 10:34:54 <peter1138> hmm, possibly javascript 10:34:59 <Darkvater> CSS 10:35:04 <XeryusTC> some javascript IIRC 10:35:04 <Spitfireleet> openttd/openttd_0.4.8-1_i386.deb 10:35:15 <Darkvater> install the deb file? 10:35:16 * XeryusTC did it a long time ago :) 10:35:30 <Darkvater> peter1138: do you see the ship? pretty cool 10:35:32 <Spitfireleet> yeah, but it comes up that i need the tt files 10:35:39 <Spitfireleet> i have that 10:35:46 <peter1138> i see normal ships... 10:35:54 <Darkvater> Transport Tycoon Original ? 10:35:56 * Bjarni slaps Darkvater 10:35:57 <peter1138> oh 10:36:00 <peter1138> it was on ttd o_O 10:36:03 <Bjarni> we need you in the present for a moment 10:36:06 <Spitfireleet> no deluxe 10:36:10 <peter1138> ah, sweet 10:36:11 <Darkvater> Spitfireleet: you need the TTD files 10:36:21 <Darkvater> TTO had some nice vehicles 10:36:41 <Spitfireleet> which i have, but where do you put them? i don't see the directory it needs to be in 10:37:08 <Darkvater> blathijs: ping 10:37:08 <Bjarni> earth calling Darkvater. Come in Darkvater. Do you read me? 10:37:13 * Darkvater is lost 10:37:25 <Darkvater> Spitfireleet: they need to be in the data/ directory 10:37:26 <peter1138> XeryusTC: hmm, it's not... style="cursor:url(../cursor.cur)" 10:37:32 <Bjarni> :( 10:37:37 <Darkvater> Bjarni: yes master? 10:37:43 <Bjarni> then we will just have to presume that Darkvater agrees and continue from there 10:37:50 <XeryusTC> peter1138: my memory is playing tricks with me then :( 10:37:52 <Darkvater> OMG toyland only has 7 train-engines o_O 10:38:17 <Bjarni> Darkvater: merging TGP... should we go for it now. It appears bugfree and nicely coded except for that max widget thing 10:38:23 <peter1138> and 10:38:24 <peter1138> lol 10:38:35 <peter1138> at the standard ships with the huge red thing 10:38:43 <peter1138> no effort went into that at all 10:38:59 <Darkvater> ycrappy :s 10:39:09 <Darkvater> Bjarni: I'll have a look as well then let truelight merge when he's back 10:39:17 <Bjarni> ok 10:39:21 <Spitfireleet> i have my openttd directory, but data is not in there 10:39:46 <Darkvater> peter1138: look at the 'luftkissenboot' for TTO pretty nice as well 10:40:08 <Bjarni> hahaha, the helicopter got a big red nose. Never saw that before 10:40:10 <Darkvater> Spitfireleet: the ottd data files when using a deb are put somewhere globally /usr/games/openttd or something 10:40:13 <peter1138> ya 10:40:32 <Bjarni> I don't really like toyland, so I never stayed in it long enough to get helicopters or something like that 10:40:35 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 10:40:43 <peter1138> the planes have eyes o_O 10:40:51 <Darkvater> I only ever played toyalnd to fix some stupid bug 10:40:53 <Bjarni> lolman: what do you say? yes or no? 10:40:55 <Darkvater> never, ever, ever again 10:41:12 <lolman> Bjarni?? 10:41:15 <peter1138> hehe 10:41:15 <Bjarni> I did it once to try it and once to try the Mars grf 10:41:31 <lolman> What am I saying yes or no to? 10:41:37 <Bjarni> lolman: we talked about this all day. Now we need people to answer 10:41:39 <Darkvater> *g* 10:41:52 <lolman> Just tell me what it is :P 10:41:57 <Darkvater> just say yes or no 10:42:19 <lolman> Sounds like one of these childish games lol 10:42:42 <Bjarni> no, we are serious. Give us your opinion 10:42:59 <Spitfireleet> Darkvater: i looked in there and all i found is the executeable file 10:43:05 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 10:43:05 <lolman> !logs 10:43:13 <Bjarni> :D 10:43:14 <lolman> I'll see what you want my opinion on first 10:43:37 <Darkvater> haha 10:43:46 <lolman> Error! 10:43:47 <lolman> The address is not available from this machine. 10:43:50 <lolman> Bugger 10:43:55 <Darkvater> so? 10:43:55 <Bjarni> lol 10:44:15 <Bjarni> then you just have to state your opinion instead of reading stuff on the net 10:44:19 <lolman> I dunno what you want my opinion on, so I won't answer :-D 10:44:31 <Darkvater> kick him then 10:44:55 *** lolman was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [damn lazy Englishman. Can't even say a single word] 10:45:02 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 10:45:14 <lolman> yes I can "a single word" :-D 10:45:59 <Bjarni> it's a fairly simple question. It's a yes/no question about your opinion, so you can't even answer it wrong 10:46:17 <lolman> I still don't know what you want my opinion on 10:46:18 <lolman> :) 10:46:26 <Bjarni> OTTD development 10:46:41 <lolman> Well it's obviously a good thing :) 10:46:57 <Bjarni> II take that as a yes 10:47:06 <Bjarni> *I will 10:47:11 <Darkvater> yes? he does want to get kicked? 10:47:14 <lolman> Lol 10:47:17 <Bjarni> Darkvater: see. lolman supports me 10:48:51 <Bjarni> <lolman> yes I can "a single word" :-D <-- and you said that we are childish??? 10:49:08 <lolman> Bjarni: well I am only a teenager :-D 10:50:18 <MeusH> you're a dancer the teenager :F 10:50:54 <Bjarni> <lolman> Bjarni: well I am only a teenager :-D <-- that's IRC for being 40+ and looking for teenagers 10:51:06 <lolman> Bjarni: lol 10:51:07 <Darkvater> blathijs: ping! 10:55:56 <MeusH> !seen blathijs 10:55:57 <DorpsGek> MeusH, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 10:56:25 <MeusH> I thought it will tell me when did he say something recently 10:59:37 <MeusH> lolman, are you 13/f/california, by chance? 10:59:46 <lolman> MeusH: no 10:59:52 <MeusH> :( 11:00:02 <lolman> 17/m/UK :P 11:00:58 <XeryusTC> MeusH: if you want to get laid then you should go to the pub, not ask people on irc :P 11:01:44 <MeusH> aren't we in the pub right now? :) 11:02:18 <MeusH> budy? 11:02:18 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02:18 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02:45 * MeusH is away: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/283 thanks in advance 11:05:13 <Bjarni> I see MeusH went to a pub 11:05:29 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.146.112] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:05:30 <peter1138> if he's asking for 13 yr olds, i hope he's too young to go to a pub... 11:06:02 <Bjarni> if he got money, he can go to a pub 11:06:12 <Bjarni> he is in Poland 11:06:38 <peter1138> oh yeah 11:06:41 <peter1138> poland has no laws 11:06:56 <Bjarni> actually they do 11:07:07 <Bjarni> they just don't care about them 11:11:03 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:12:42 <lolman> Not having laws would suck 11:13:21 <Bjarni> that would be Russia in 1990 11:13:48 <lolman> I can imagine 11:13:53 <Bjarni> no official laws, so the mafia made the active laws in their own favour 11:14:05 <Bjarni> pay up or die 11:14:25 <lolman> Yeah, total anarchy, I would have thought 11:18:02 <lolman> Ooooh Compiz rocks! 11:18:13 <lolman> Shame it kills OpenTTD :( 11:18:56 * lolman makes script to kill Compiz on request 11:19:52 <lolman> Actually it doesn't kill OpenTTD...it makes it transparent :P 11:24:29 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:24:43 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:28:45 <peter1138> there's an environment variable you can set which fixes that 11:28:58 <lolman> peter1138: do you know what it is? lol 11:29:04 <peter1138> XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUAL=1 11:29:21 <Darkvater> he IS good 11:30:09 <lolman> And where do I put it? :P 11:30:32 <peter1138> you type it 11:30:40 <peter1138> before typing the command to run openttd 11:30:48 <lolman> Doesn't help 11:32:35 <lolman> just killing Compiz is quicker, I can restart it after OpenTTD has closed 11:33:15 <Darkvater> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUAL=1; ./openttd 11:34:10 <lolman> :) 11:35:11 <lolman> That doesn't help either :( 11:35:12 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:12 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:34 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:36:35 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:38:09 <lolman> I can get a screenshot if you need one? 11:42:03 <lolman> Aha 11:42:11 <lolman> It's Compiz not liking SDL 11:42:39 <Diablo-D3> yeah 11:42:46 <Diablo-D3> you need that thing Darkvater said 11:43:19 <Diablo-D3> tells xlib not to provide ARGB visuals, which SDL and a number of other programs use 11:43:38 <lolman> Diablo-D3: doesn't seem to work 11:44:04 <lolman> bbs, need food, PM me with any other suggestions :) 11:44:15 <Diablo-D3> lolman: is your compiz, mesa, dri, and Xorg up to date? 11:44:30 <Diablo-D3> preferably from cvs/svn/git 11:46:16 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176117052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:50:54 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-225-199.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:51:52 <Sacro> ooh, was he now 11:51:55 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 11:51:55 <Sacro> !logs 11:52:42 *** hj3lmen [~rasmus@cpe.atm2-0-73312.0x50a679de.arcnxx19.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:52:52 <hj3lmen> helt sikkert der.. :D 11:53:43 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-54421a2b.l5.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:47 <roboboy> you can ignore my bot in the freenode channel 11:53:55 <Sacro> Darkvater: you where looking for me? 11:54:14 <Sacro> !spam 11:54:14 <robotboy> Boooooooooom! 11:54:20 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 11:57:12 * Tobin wants to be able to drop the URL of an MP3 onto iTunes 11:57:21 <Tobin> WHy is this not implemented already? 11:57:32 <Tobin> And where did that extra capital letter come from? 11:58:51 <Diablo-D3> holding shift down too long 11:58:57 <XeryusTC> sticky shift key 12:00:37 <Tobin> I wasn't really expecting an answer... 12:00:39 * MeusH is back (gone 00:57:57) 12:03:06 <MeusH> I had fun 12:03:24 <Eddi|zuHause> with 13 year olds in the pub? 12:03:36 <MeusH> nope 12:03:46 <MeusH> 12 year olds mwahahaha 12:04:06 <XeryusTC> 12 year olds are anoying 12:04:06 <lolman> Back 12:04:17 <XeryusTC> lolman: you had fun too? 12:04:17 <MeusH> yeah, my cousing is 12 years old 12:04:23 <MeusH> cousin* 12:04:35 <lolman> XeryusTC: not really, I only ate some food 12:05:02 <XeryusTC> :o 12:05:25 <XeryusTC> eating is fun :) 12:05:30 <lolman> Lol 12:08:10 <Sacro> grr, im hungry 12:08:22 <Brianetta> I have a sister who is 12 12:08:30 <lolman> Sacro: I'm not :) 12:08:52 <Sacro> Brianetta: errm...i hope you wherent replying to me there 12:08:59 <lolman> Brianetta: I have a 12 year old cousin 12:09:12 <lolman> She's an annoying little bugger 12:09:18 <Sacro> i think maybe one or two of my cousins may be 12, i tend to avoid them all 12:09:21 <Brianetta> My cousinb range from 20s to newborn 12:09:32 <Brianetta> All younger than me 12:09:36 <Brianetta> I was first in the generation 12:09:50 *** hj3lmen [~rasmus@cpe.atm2-0-73312.0x50a679de.arcnxx19.customer.tele.dk] has quit [] 12:09:52 <Sacro> i suppose it took em a while to recover :P 12:10:11 <lolman> Lol Sacro 12:10:17 <XeryusTC> rofl 12:10:23 <Brianetta> late 20s 12:10:31 <Brianetta> They're not that much younger, some of them 12:10:38 * Brianetta has a huge family 12:10:38 <XeryusTC> i've got cousins ranging from 6 to 30 ish 12:10:54 <Sacro> im 22, and the eldest by 4 years to my brother, and 5 to my eldest cousin 12:11:02 <lolman> My oldest cousin is 21 12:11:03 <Sacro> but im getting step-sisters soon 12:11:05 <Brianetta> Helen was rather intimidated to see only half my family at my grandfather's funeral last year 12:11:29 <Sacro> Brianetta: has she not met the whole lot yet then? 12:11:40 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: i think that i would have a bigger family if i would count in all the family of my mothers side ;) 12:12:42 <Brianetta> Sacro: She hasn't met most of the maternal side 12:12:54 <Brianetta> Only the close family (mum, all the sisters) 12:13:29 <Brianetta> She hasn't met my dad's wife and kids, or my mum's borthers and sisters, or half o fmy dad's brothers and sisters 12:13:45 <Brianetta> We did the preliminary wedding invitation list 12:13:51 <Brianetta> Helen had about 20. 12:14:01 <Brianetta> I had about 80 from family along, and then friends 12:14:20 <Brianetta> and no doubt my mum will know more people in the family that need to be invited 12:14:43 <MeusH> lol :) 12:14:50 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: she only has 20 relatives? 12:15:16 <lolman> Brianetta: do what my mam and dad did, only invite 2 people to the wedding (as witnesses) and then tell all your family the day after and have a huge party :P 12:16:01 <lolman> (mind you, they christened my sister the day after the wedding, so the family was there anyway) 12:16:07 <Brianetta> XeryusTC: Living, yes. Barely. most aren't technically related to her. 12:17:05 <XeryusTC> hmm 12:17:13 <Brianetta> lolman: I'm getting married on 24 November 2007 at the Lodore Falls Hotel in Borrowdale, Cumbria 12:17:14 <XeryusTC> lol 12:17:25 <XeryusTC> a spider was hunting a fly in this room 12:17:33 <Brianetta> Spiders rock 12:17:38 <XeryusTC> and it caught it just while i was typing "hmm" 12:17:53 <XeryusTC> now they're strugling :D 12:18:00 <XeryusTC> but the spider is 3x as small as the fly 12:18:03 <Brianetta> You reckon the fly has a change of winning? 12:18:06 <lolman> Brianetta: well get a kid for then :-D 12:18:15 <Brianetta> lolman: Fuck that. 12:18:17 <Brianetta> kids--- 12:18:21 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: i think it's dead, it doesn't move anymore 12:18:23 <lolman> :P 12:18:24 <Brianetta> My family is huge enough anyway. 12:18:36 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N859P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18:37 <Brianetta> I have sisters young enough to be my kids. 12:18:46 <Brianetta> Step-brothers, too 12:19:05 <Sacro> my brother is 18, my step-sisters are 24, 23 and 20 12:19:33 <lolman> I'm the youngest of my siblings 12:19:57 <lolman> sister is 21, brothers are 31 and 36 12:20:07 <lolman> (well, half-brothers) 12:20:16 <Brianetta> It's weird being in my mum's house, with kids and toys everywhere, as an adult. It gives me a very different perspective on my own childhood. 12:20:24 <XeryusTC> i've got half brothers that are old enough to be my dad 12:20:34 <Brianetta> My youngest sister is still in junior school 12:20:37 <lolman> XeryusTC: same 12:20:39 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N785P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i've got a half brother that i do not even know 12:20:48 <Brianetta> My youngest three sisters are half sisters 12:20:55 <XeryusTC> i never seem them though, as they live 11 hours of flying away from here 12:21:04 <Sacro> lolman: 21 year old sister? 12:21:10 <lolman> Sacro: yeah 12:21:19 <lolman> (and no, she's not available) 12:21:19 <roboboy> /me is the only one 12:21:23 <XeryusTC> my oldest sister is my half sister, and i got dozens more of them on the other side of the globe 12:21:27 <Sacro> roboboy: i think thats a good thing ;) 12:21:34 <Sacro> *roboboy even 12:21:37 <Brianetta> I have a global family (: 12:21:51 <Brianetta> In fact, next week I'm off to London to meet some of the Japanese lot 12:22:00 <lolman> Brianetta: same, relatives in Australia, Canada and the US 12:22:07 <Brianetta> then my granmother jets off to Sydney to say hello to the Australian lot 12:22:31 <Brianetta> None in the US, me 12:22:36 <Brianetta> No taint in my family (: 12:22:41 <lolman> Lol 12:22:41 <Eddi|zuHause> my furthest relatives (that i know of) live in Karlsruhe... 12:22:55 <Brianetta> I have an uncle in Germany somewhere 12:22:58 <lolman> We haven't heard from our American relatives for a couple of years actually 12:22:58 <XeryusTC> a big part of my family just lives in a town that's 5 kilometers away 12:23:09 <Brianetta> Whell, actually he's wherever McLaren are racing 12:23:13 <Brianetta> since he's pit crew 12:23:30 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: cool B) 12:23:39 <lolman> Brianetta: nice 8) 12:23:45 <Brianetta> He used todrive Mansell's car 12:23:45 <Sacro> ooh, f1 12:23:51 <Brianetta> (in a lorry) 12:24:06 <Sacro> hehe, subtly dropped the last bit 12:24:07 <Brianetta> then he was made redundant and went to Footworks 12:24:12 <Brianetta> then back to McLaren on the up 12:24:25 <Sacro> ahh Footworks 12:24:28 <Brianetta> He made himself useful, trackside 12:24:33 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: the kind of town where your 2nd degree cousin (mother's side) is also your 3rd degree cousin (father's side)? 12:24:33 <Brianetta> and now is part of The Team 12:24:35 <lolman> Brianetta: what part of the pit crew is he? 12:24:42 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: a 2nd degree cousin? 12:24:47 <Brianetta> lolman: Whatever's needed. He's technically a driver 12:24:58 <lolman> Brianetta: aah lol 12:25:04 <Brianetta> but he's capable of perating the comuters, etc 12:25:10 <Brianetta> operating, even 12:25:15 <Brianetta> and computers 12:25:20 <Sacro> i nearly got run over by alonso last year :( 12:25:20 <lolman> lol 12:25:31 <Brianetta> Sacro: Stay off the track, man 12:25:32 <roboboy> gnight 12:25:35 <Brianetta> night roboboy 12:25:36 <Sacro> Brianetta: it wasnt on the track 12:25:38 <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause: that makes no sense to me, isn't a 2nd degree relative suppose to be your uncle/aunt? 12:25:43 <Sacro> night roboboy 12:25:54 <Eddi|zuHause> well, a cousin is your father's sibling's son (1st degree), and if it was your father's cousin's son, it's 2nd degree 12:25:57 *** roboboy is now known as robobed 12:26:01 <XeryusTC> night robotboy 12:27:12 <Brianetta> Eddi: No, second cousin is parent's cousin 12:27:12 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: ahh, twice removed (i think) 12:27:26 <Sacro> Brianetta: isnt that great-cousin? 12:27:32 *** mikk36|lap [~mikk35@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:27:47 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 12:27:47 <Brianetta> Sacro: Not led to believe so 12:27:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think these names are actually standardized ;) 12:28:14 <Eddi|zuHause> and if they are, i don't know them anyway ;= 12:28:44 *** andrei [~andrei@81.23.102.94] has joined #openttd 12:28:50 <Sacro> :o 7950GT 12:28:54 * Brianetta looks up wikipedia 12:28:58 <Brianetta> Wikipedia knows all 12:29:05 <lolman> Sacro: I WANT 2!! 12:29:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't even know what to call my cousin's sons 12:29:16 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: no it doesnt, it doesnt know my ASL 12:29:23 <Brianetta> Eddi: By name, is my recommendation 12:29:27 <Sacro> lolman: mmm 4 GPU's 12:29:29 <Brianetta> XeryusTC: It will in a moment 12:29:34 <lolman> Sacro: yup! 12:29:44 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: no it wont 12:29:46 <lolman> That + High end Conroe = gaming joy 12:30:21 <stillunknown> don't forget your in the openttd channel :-) 12:30:22 <lolman> Oh and lotsa low latency DDR2 :) 12:30:24 <XeryusTC> lolman: why would you want to play OTTD in a 85 degree Celcius room? 12:30:40 <mikk36|lap> 7950GT <-- was that the double-decker ? 12:30:50 <lolman> XeryusTC: add phase change cooling then :-D 12:31:17 <stillunknown> never buy really high end, just buy midrange two times 12:31:17 <lolman> mikk36<lap: yes 12:31:23 <mikk36|lap> lol 12:31:24 <stillunknown> sli is crazy money spending 12:31:32 <XeryusTC> lolman: just get yourself a pentium-133 :D 12:31:32 <mikk36|lap> i wouldn't buy it :) 12:31:39 <mikk36|lap> i's got too bad cooling 12:31:47 <lolman> XeryusTS: I have a 233...will that do? 12:31:54 <XeryusTC> sure :) 12:32:01 <XeryusTC> and it's XeryusTC 12:32:03 <lolman> =D 12:32:11 <lolman> Oops sorry 12:32:15 <mikk36|lap> learn to use Tab button :) 12:32:18 <XeryusTC> use your tab key 12:32:55 <lolman> XeryusTC: i am now ;0 12:33:03 <XeryusTC> good 12:33:06 <lolman> and my shift key is oroke 12:33:08 <lolman> broke8 12:33:14 <lolman> grr 12:33:17 <mikk36|lap> why not fix it ? 12:33:18 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:33:28 <mikk36|lap> hey, glx .) 12:33:30 <mikk36|lap> :) 12:33:48 <Eddi|zuHause> seems your entire keyboard is broke ;) 12:33:56 <XeryusTC> now it's time for some anime :) 12:34:18 *** egladil [~egladil@duregladil.csbnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:34:55 <lolman> XeryusTC: lol 12:35:12 <lolman> Eddi|zuHause: only the shift key 12:35:31 <lolman> aha, it's konversation 12:35:35 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35:40 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 12:35:41 <Brianetta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_chart 12:35:56 <Sacro> :o that URL disturbs me 12:35:58 <Brianetta> Th eames are standardized in the Church 12:36:03 <Brianetta> The names 12:36:14 <Brianetta> also: 12:36:16 <Brianetta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Relatives_Chart.jpg 12:36:18 <Brianetta> in colour! 12:36:43 *** lolman [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 12:36:46 <Brianetta> Eddi was right about second cousins 12:36:51 <lolman> There we go...stupid Konversation 12:36:57 <lolman> Swapped to Irssi now :) 12:37:09 <mikk36|lap> use xchat :) 12:37:32 <lolman> mikk36|lap: nah lol 12:37:44 <mikk36|lap> why not ? :) 12:37:51 <mikk36|lap> i'm using it :) 12:37:54 <lolman> mikk36|lap: I like Irssi :) 12:38:06 <lolman> Quickly becoming a fan 12:38:40 <Sacro> so you can have multple 2nd cousins 1ce removed 12:38:50 <stillunknown> xchat consumes too much memory iirc (i checked out some irc clients a year ago) 12:39:06 <Sacro> no it doesnt 12:39:23 <lolman> irssi takes 4mb 12:39:34 <lolman> plus the terminal, which is 3.2 12:39:52 <stillunknown> Sacro: then what's the memory consumption? 12:40:09 <lolman> I don't have xchat installed :( 12:40:35 * lolman decides to install it 12:41:05 <Sacro> 14.6MiB 12:41:16 <lolman> Ewwww 12:41:23 <lolman> That's over double irssi :P 12:41:38 <Sacro> which is less than skype, nautilus, gaim, gnome-panal and python 12:42:11 <lolman> Sacro: but more than irssi, which is what the comparison was with ;-) 12:42:14 <Brianetta> Bah 12:42:24 <Sacro> Brianetta: humbug? 12:42:34 <Brianetta> What do you call a same-generation relative who shares one set f grandparents? 12:42:38 <Brianetta> Half-cousin? 12:42:47 <Brianetta> That works like half-sibling, where one parent is shared 12:43:13 <Brianetta> no wait 12:43:18 * Brianetta thinks 12:43:24 <Brianetta> It's a cousin's cousin 12:43:29 <stillunknown> Sacro: Resident memory? 12:43:33 <Brianetta> and not technically sharing any grandparents 12:43:46 <stillunknown> brb 12:43:46 * Brianetta doodles it 12:43:46 <Sacro> Brianetta: dont think it has a specific name 12:43:49 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: stillunknown] 12:44:03 <Brianetta> Sacro: Meh. I can't just call them "those ginger relatives" 12:44:09 <Sacro> actually, thinking about it, you might share great, or great great grandparents 12:44:12 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 12:44:15 <Brianetta> Sacro: We don't 12:44:22 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 12:44:25 <Sacro> Brianetta: the ginger relatives it is then :) 12:44:29 <Brianetta> We share a cousin 12:44:52 <Brianetta> Each of us shares a set of grandparents with that cousin, but it's that cousin's other grandparents 12:44:53 <JohnUK89> xchat uses 13.6MB here...stil way more that irssi 12:44:58 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [] 12:45:00 <Sacro> errm 12:45:08 <Brianetta> IYKWIM 12:45:32 * Brianetta does have a vary large family 12:45:38 <stillunknown> i shamefully admit that my irc client uses 14 MiB resident memory :-( 12:45:39 <Sacro> First cousins in law? 12:45:51 <Brianetta> no, those are (or will be) Helen's cousins 12:45:55 <Sacro> no, cos that'd be your wifes 12:45:58 <Sacro> hmm 12:46:08 <Brianetta> I need a genealogist 12:46:20 <Sacro> you kinda have to go M to get there 12:46:23 <Brianetta> Unfortunately, my aunt Robyn is in Sydney 12:46:27 <Brianetta> Yes, M 12:46:28 <lolman> brb 12:46:35 <Sacro> i doubt there is a term 12:46:41 <Brianetta> I need a term 12:46:49 <Brianetta> I'll write to a vicar 12:46:51 <Sacro> shame we dont speak german, you can quite happily wedge things together to make words 12:46:55 <Brianetta> They know this stuff 12:47:03 <Brianetta> I do speak german 12:47:44 <Brianetta> YES! 12:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> haha ;) 12:48:26 <Brianetta> no 12:48:28 <Brianetta> damn 12:48:28 <Gonozal_VIII> donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän :-) 12:48:31 <Brianetta> Not half-cousin 12:48:34 <Sacro> nope 12:48:43 <Sacro> you dont share a common ancester, so there is no term 12:49:02 <Brianetta> das Vierwaldstätterseedampfschiffgesellschaftkapitänsmützensternlein 12:49:07 <Sacro> :o 12:49:08 <Brianetta> That was in Deutsch Heute 12:49:19 <Brianetta> the German text book I had in school 12:49:25 <Sacro> its like someone sneezed whilst being electrecuted 12:49:41 <Eddi|zuHause> we once had a contest... someone made a word 12:49:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and each person that replied, added a word to that 12:49:54 <stillunknown> itsoundslikesomeonelostsomekeysontheirkeyboard 12:50:06 <Brianetta> stillunknown: Except it's valid German... 12:50:11 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 12:50:26 <Brianetta> You concatenate your adjectives onto the noun to make a compound noun 12:50:33 <Brianetta> We do it in English, to a lesser degree 12:50:34 <stillunknown> still it's not practical german 12:50:36 <Brianetta> hence, speedboat 12:50:56 <Brianetta> stillunknown: Doesn't stop them doing it 12:51:37 <Eddi|zuHause> we got a word of like 400 letters last time i checked... 12:51:56 <lolman> Eddi|zuHause: copy/paste into here? :P 12:52:06 <Eddi|zuHause> that was a long time ago... 12:52:08 <lolman> Sounds like an interesting word :) 12:52:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i see if i can find it... 12:53:08 <Bjarni> Brianetta: are you a catholic by any chance? 12:53:50 <Brianetta> Bjarni: I was confirmed Church of England at 11, was a happy-clappy-born-again Christian from 14 to 24, then I lost my faith completely. I was never a Catholic. 12:54:05 <Bjarni> actually I meant more like your family 12:54:18 <ln-> in finnish it's possible to make arbitrarily long words by just combining nouns. (grammatical, but not necessarily sensible) 12:54:21 <Brianetta> Not a catholic family at all. Protestant through and through 12:54:25 <Bjarni> no birth control for religious reasons ;) 12:54:52 <stillunknown> religion can be a strange thing 12:54:52 <Bjarni> so what you are saying is that you got a horny family? 12:55:03 <Brianetta> Bjarni: The family is large because of longevity and a fair amount of remarriage 12:55:16 <Brianetta> but yes, horniness no doubt played its part 12:55:20 <lolman> Brianetta: so it's an unstable family lol 12:55:24 <Brianetta> and the fact that we all keep in touch 12:55:41 <Brianetta> lolman: My mum is on her third marriage, and my adopted dad his third 12:55:52 <Brianetta> They were each other's second 12:55:55 <lolman> Brianetta: I'll take that as a yes ;-) 12:56:05 <Brianetta> If we include my biological father, we get an even bigger crowd 12:56:09 <Bjarni> I never managed to figure out how to keep track of such families 12:56:32 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:32 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:34 <stillunknown> maybe give them numbers 12:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i cannot find it anymore... 12:56:42 <Brianetta> Bjarni: Maintain four links. If they do the same (common in my family) you get an exponential capability of communication. 12:56:46 <lolman> Electronic tags? 12:57:05 <Brianetta> I keep in touch with my sister, my dad, my grandmother and my mum 12:57:12 <Brianetta> all of whom live in separate locations 12:57:32 <stillunknown> i wonder whoever came up with the word "mum" 12:57:46 <Brianetta> stillunknown: a baby, probably 12:57:50 <Bjarni> I meant more like how to figure out how who is related to who 12:57:58 <Brianetta> Bjarni: I just know 12:58:01 <Brianetta> It's my family 12:58:22 <Bjarni> I see 12:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it's better than a soap opera ;) 12:59:24 *** Olof [~Gustav@c80-216-125-158.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #openttd 12:59:24 <lolman> Soap operas suck 12:59:26 <lolman> :P 12:59:27 <Bjarni> isn't it hard with all the ex spouses when you figure out who to invite for Christmas, birthday and so on? 12:59:42 <stillunknown> just invite the people that you normally see :-) 12:59:45 <Brianetta> Bjarni: I don't generally invite people 12:59:54 <Brianetta> although the wedding is going to be interesting 12:59:54 <Bjarni> lolman: soap is slippery. That's not the same as sucks :p 13:00:07 <Brianetta> but my mum and dad promise to behave (: 13:00:19 <Brianetta> and helen's mum and dad (also divorced) 13:00:25 <Brianetta> and their partners / spouses 13:00:28 <lolman> Bjarni: shhh :) 13:00:53 <stillunknown> a wedding must be awfull 13:01:08 <Bjarni> I can see that Brianetta and Helen will have to spend months planning the table plan 13:01:28 <Bjarni> who can be at the same table and who can't.... 13:01:28 <Eddi|zuHause> <Brianetta> Bjarni: I don't generally invite people <- they just show up anyway? ;) 13:01:47 <Zavior> :) 13:01:55 <Bjarni> gate crashers, ehh ;) 13:02:07 <Brianetta> Eddi: I live far from the family 13:02:33 <lolman> Brianetta: and you told me to use the tab key? :P 13:03:01 <Bjarni> I don't get that family. You stay in touch, but spread out on 3 continents and nobody is in touch with everybody 13:03:05 <Bjarni> some family... 13:03:20 <Bjarni> Brianetta: are you born in Hull by any chance? 13:03:32 <Brianetta> no 13:03:36 <Brianetta> Lakes 13:03:50 <Bjarni> you were born in a lake??? 13:03:55 <Brianetta> The Lakes 13:03:58 <Bjarni> the rest of us are born at hospitals 13:04:03 <Sacro> Bjarni: what have you got against Hull? 13:04:24 <MeusH> My starship has got a titanium hull 13:04:40 <Bjarni> Sacro: well, they do seem to start getting children at an early age, which is a sign of poor relationships and they can manage to get a whole lot of children 13:04:41 <lolman> Sacro: Hull is horrible 13:04:56 <Bjarni> MeusH: Hull is a town in England 13:05:05 <Bjarni> do not go there 13:05:09 <MeusH> thanks 13:05:13 <MeusH> why shouldn't I go there? 13:05:25 <Bjarni> I can't answer that 13:05:33 <Bjarni> I don't know why anybody would go there 13:05:40 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC76BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:05:52 <Sacro> MeusH: ignore Bjarni, its actually a city 13:05:55 <lolman> Hull has the cheapest house prices in England, THAT'S why people go there 13:06:01 * Bjarni wonders if everybody in Hull is related into one huge family 13:06:11 <Sacro> nah 13:06:15 *** Olof [~Gustav@c80-216-125-158.cm-upc.chello.se] has quit [Quit: Olof] 13:06:17 <Sacro> its getting full of polish people 13:06:20 <MeusH> http://cyanfox.org/bubblewrap.swf <- lool 13:06:41 <peter1138> hull has a cathedral? hmm 13:06:42 <Bjarni> <Sacro> its getting full of polish people <-- turning it into a place for MeusH? 13:06:45 <Sacro> "Hull has the most 20 miles per hour zones in the UK." <- never knew that, though it makes sense 13:06:57 <Sacro> Bjarni: dunno, they come over for work 13:09:17 <Sacro> gah, wikipedia really needs its entry for Hull sorting 13:09:25 <Bjarni> <Sacro> "Hull has the most 20 miles per hour zones in the UK." <- never knew that, though it makes sense <-- yeah, when both parents and children are children 13:09:42 <Bjarni> also poor road conditions 13:09:46 <Sacro> Bjarni: they dont move out the way of cars very fast 13:10:09 <Sacro> the worrying thing is that if you go slower than 20 you run the risk of having your car nicked 13:10:10 <Bjarni> ahh 13:10:13 <Bjarni> fat people 13:10:23 <peter1138> "Unlike many other ancient English cities, Hull has no cathedral." 13:10:25 <peter1138> hmm 13:10:43 <peter1138> i guess it all comes under Hull's "special" status 13:10:59 <Bjarni> <Sacro> the worrying thing is that if you go slower than 20 you run the risk of having your car nicked <-- they learn from Venezuela? 13:11:25 <Bjarni> in Venezuela, they drive past red lights because stopping is more dangerous than risking hitting other cars 13:11:45 <Sacro> peter1138: no, but we do have the biggest church in europe (by volume) 13:11:48 <Bjarni> well, at least in certain parts of the country 13:12:00 <Sacro> Bjarni: no, people in Hull dont learn 13:12:05 <Bjarni> good point 13:12:42 <Sacro> heh, Hull was thought to be where syphillis entered the UK 13:12:57 <lolman> Sacro: wouldn't surprise me 13:13:17 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 13:13:24 <peter1138> Sacro: see what you mean... the second paragraph of History is... terrible... needs some proper editor 13:13:56 <Sacro> peter1138: they've misspelt "Beverley" 13:14:22 <Sacro> and turners on bev road SOLD "everything but the girl" 13:15:00 <Sacro> AND THE HUMBER IS NOT A RIVER!!! 13:15:20 <lolman> Sacro: It's a sewage works! 13:15:23 <lolman> :-D 13:15:33 <Sacro> lolman: well...yes, it does have a wonderful brown colour 13:15:46 <peter1138> lol 13:16:39 <lolman> Hehe 13:16:48 <lolman> Half the reason I'm never going to Hull 13:17:10 <lolman> That and the high pregnancy rate :-X 13:17:26 <Sacro> yeah...keeps the population up 13:17:53 <lolman> Lol 13:18:06 <Sacro> the disturbing thing is, is that if everyone in Hull died at 16, the city would still keep going for a long time 13:18:11 <Bjarni> I bet they don't live long 13:18:17 <Sacro> Bjarni: no...they do 13:18:27 *** miika [~miika@cs181254239.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:18:30 <Bjarni> they do? 13:18:59 <Bjarni> then kick it out of England. They are feeding on your taxes 13:19:08 <Bjarni> they can't pay for their own hospital bills 13:19:16 <Bjarni> slackers 13:19:19 <Bjarni> all of them 13:19:38 <peter1138> "Rob Hubbard, a very famous Commodore 64 SID6581 composer was born in Hull." 13:19:49 <Zavior> :) 13:19:51 <peter1138> very famous! everyone knows of him! 13:20:15 <lolman> Who? :P 13:20:20 <Bjarni> well, he did have a lot of time on his hands 13:20:31 <Bjarni> too dangerous to go outdoors for a smart guy like him 13:22:23 <Sacro> peter1138: hehe 13:23:35 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:24:07 <lolman> Belugas: ello 13:25:05 <Belugas> hello lolman 13:25:31 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.72.164.148.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 13:26:30 <Sacro> Champion (Really good - as in, "It were reet champion") 13:26:37 <Sacro> hehe, i love our dialect 13:28:18 <Sacro> rofl 13:28:19 <Sacro> t' (the, accompanied by an apostrophe, e.g. "Has thou seen-t'new Pope? Eye's of a killer, 'e 'as") 13:29:46 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 13:29:46 <Sacro> !logs 13:29:58 * Sacro turns up gorillaz 13:30:12 <OwenS> hMM 13:30:27 <OwenS> I need to buy a Pacifica supporting AMD and install Xen 13:31:40 <Diablo-D3> those wont be out for a bit 13:32:23 <OwenS> They are out 13:32:41 <OwenS> FX-62. Turion 64 X2 and all AM2 CPUs 13:34:12 <Sacro> "Please leave no milk today. When I say today, I mean tomorrow, because I wrote this note yesterday." 13:34:44 <OwenS> rofl 13:35:53 <peter1138> pacifica? 13:36:01 <lolman> Sacro: you're a nutcase 13:36:15 <Sacro> peter1138: i think its AMDs version of vanderpool 13:36:21 <peter1138> vanderpool? 13:36:23 <Bjarni> Sacro: that's your usual precision? 13:36:50 <Sacro> Bjarni: meaning? 13:37:15 <lolman> peter1138: it makes a CPU support virtualisation, meaning it runs Xen much better :) 13:37:23 <Bjarni> that it's perfectly clear what day you meant ;) 13:37:26 <Sacro> peter1138: for x86 virtualisation 13:37:27 <Bjarni> or not :p 13:37:35 <OwenS> peter1138: Pacifica/Vanderpool, also known as VT, fool guest OSes into not knowing theyre virtualized 13:37:37 <peter1138> Xen? 13:37:44 <OwenS> Fastest emulator arround 13:37:45 <OwenS> Period 13:37:58 <OwenS> Pacifica is somewhat more advanced since the CPU has the virtual MMU 13:38:05 <Darkvater> OwenS: wit the only difference that with Intel's Vanderpool, virtualization is even slower than without :S 13:38:10 * Sacro sways to Dirty Harry 13:38:15 <Diablo-D3> its not an emulator though 13:38:30 <Diablo-D3> it just allows you to hijack the mmu and the priority rings 13:38:49 <OwenS> Darkvater: Yes, it has to fire interupts into the kernel for Ring0 operations 13:39:06 <OwenS> With an Xen native kernel it just calls the functions 13:39:13 <Diablo-D3> actually, OwenS 13:39:28 <Diablo-D3> Xen supports/will support x86 virtualization 13:39:29 <Patrick`> xen is supposed to be faster than current hardware virtualisation implementations 13:39:44 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: Only with custom kernels 13:39:49 <Diablo-D3> Patrick`: well, thats the thing 13:39:52 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: And Pacifica/Vanderpool 13:39:54 <Diablo-D3> xen isnt really a virtual machine 13:40:06 <OwenS> But, delegating 1gb ram to Linux, 512mp to Windows XP, and the rest to an assortment of other distros and OSes would rock ^^ 13:40:10 <Patrick`> (you have to rewrite the kernel for xen 13:40:15 <Diablo-D3> its a virtual... uh... something or rather. 13:40:24 *** crem| [~none@87.252.249.2] has joined #openttd 13:40:28 <peter1138> "virtual machine monitor" 13:40:32 <Diablo-D3> peter1138: that works. 13:40:39 <peter1138> that's what i says on the webpage 13:40:42 <peter1138> *it 13:40:47 <Diablo-D3> and no, Patrick` 13:40:47 <Triffid_Hunter> xen is the kernel equivalent of uml afaik 13:40:53 * OwenS looks at a perfect Acid2 result 13:41:00 <Diablo-D3> xen will run windows umodified with hardware support 13:41:08 <Patrick`> yes, with hardware support. 13:41:09 <Diablo-D3> Triffid_Hunter: eh, sort of 13:41:11 <OwenS> Yes, thats why I want a Pacifica CPU ^^ 13:41:14 <Diablo-D3> xen is sorta like uml done right 13:41:15 <Patrick`> hardware support which is crappier than recompiling 13:41:15 <ChrisM87> Does inflation make prices still rise after 2090? 13:41:26 <Diablo-D3> Patrick`: nope. 13:41:36 <Patrick`> currently slower, I should say. 13:41:39 <Diablo-D3> nope 13:41:44 <Patrick`> yes it sodding well is 13:41:47 <Diablo-D3> nope, it isnt. 13:41:54 <Diablo-D3> hardware support is, infact, faster 13:41:58 <Patrick`> link to benchmarks plz? 13:42:02 <Diablo-D3> its just xen doing it wrong 13:42:11 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: No, it IS slower 13:42:18 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: the _support_ isnt 13:42:22 <Diablo-D3> xen using the support is. 13:42:23 <OwenS> Xen when running a compiled kernel is fast because theres no interupts to listen for 13:42:48 <OwenS> With hardware support it will ALWAYS be slower than a custom kernel BECAUSE it has to respond to those interrupts. Entering an interupt handler is SLOW 13:43:10 <Diablo-D3> wow, thats bullshit OwenS 13:43:20 <OwenS> Interupts are slower than function calls 13:43:23 <Diablo-D3> the hardware support already includes the hardware. 13:43:40 <Diablo-D3> or rather, their APIC already supports what xen needs 13:44:04 <Diablo-D3> xen just needs to actually use it 13:44:57 * lolman bangs Diablo-D3 and OwenS's heads together 13:45:03 * Diablo-D3 cuts lolman in two 13:45:03 <lolman> Stop arguing! :P 13:45:20 *** crem| [~none@87.252.249.2] has quit [] 13:45:20 <OwenS> push val; 13:45:20 <OwenS> push val2; 13:45:20 <OwenS> call emufunc; 13:45:20 <OwenS> <function> 13:45:20 <OwenS> Is faster than 13:45:20 <OwenS> mov eax val1 13:45:23 <OwenS> mov ecx val2 13:45:23 <OwenS> int <x> 13:45:25 <OwenS> <Wait a few cycles for the interrput to pop in> 13:45:25 <OwenS> push eax 13:45:27 <OwenS> push ecx 13:45:27 <OwenS> push edx 13:45:29 <OwenS> <etc for EVERY register> 13:45:29 <OwenS> <do stuff> 13:46:06 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: unless, of course, this is being done in parallel by the apic hardware 13:46:19 *** miika [~miika@cs181254239.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:20 <lolman> OwenS: sounds like what Bochs would do, that 13:46:29 <OwenS> The CPU is doing no work while ti's saving the registers, except saving them 13:46:29 <Diablo-D3> lolman: no, bochs is a complete system emulator 13:46:35 <OwenS> The APIC can't do that 13:46:37 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: which isnt true 13:46:49 <Diablo-D3> or atleast, shouldnt be true 13:46:54 <Diablo-D3> Im not entirely sure how fucked up xen is 13:46:59 <Diablo-D3> but the hardware can already do what I ask 13:47:00 <Sacro> ????????? 13:47:18 <lolman> Sacro: stop the chinese please ;-) 13:47:27 <lolman> Can't understand it :P 13:47:28 <OwenS> Interupts are slow.... 13:47:52 <Sacro> ???? ?? ????????? ?????/????? ??? 13:47:53 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: except when you have multiple operating systems issuing interrupts to fake hardware. 13:48:09 * lolman slaps Sacro for being pedantic 13:48:18 <OwenS> This is the thing, Interupts are slow compared to function calls 13:48:23 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: stillunknown] 13:48:33 <Darkvater> :s 13:48:34 <Sacro> lolman: ??? 13:48:37 <Diablo-D3> but you're trying to say using xen magically makes interrupts disapear 13:48:38 <Darkvater> bug in VS2003 13:48:38 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:48:39 <Darkvater> FIX: If you turn on optimization, your generated code may not be correct 13:48:49 <Diablo-D3> interrupts are _always_ generated 13:48:51 <Sacro> Darkvater: but is it quicker? 13:49:05 <Diablo-D3> want to write or read to the hd from any machine in xen? theres interrupts bing generated. 13:49:10 <Diablo-D3> no matter how your xen is setup 13:49:25 <Diablo-D3> hell, uml is the same way 13:49:42 * Darkvater installs VS2003 SP1 13:49:44 <Diablo-D3> uml kernel reads drive, real kernel reads real drive and this involves interrupts 13:49:59 <Bjarni> err... sometimes searching qdb for your own nick can give weird results 13:50:00 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/63946 13:50:01 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: When a non Xen aware OS calls a Ring0 only instruction, the CPU causes an Interupt in Xen. When it's aware, INSTEAD of the Ring0 instruction and causing the interupt it just calls an Xen function 13:50:05 <Bjarni> who posted that? 13:50:15 * Sacro whistles 13:50:21 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: yes, but interrupts are _still happening_ 13:50:30 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: Only when they happen normally 13:50:33 <Diablo-D3> yes 13:50:36 <Diablo-D3> and they're still slow. 13:51:13 <OwenS> Disk access? Theres no interupt into Xen, they just call Xen which does it with 1 less interupt. With VT/Pacifica, it has to interupt into Xen first 13:51:32 <OwenS> And HD access is done 99% of the time with DMA anyway 13:51:33 <Sacro> Bjarni: i had nothing to do with that one... 13:51:56 <OwenS> Not with BIOS interupts 13:52:05 <Diablo-D3> but what I'm saying is having the VM OS interrupt the Ring0 OS doesnt cause any real additional speed loss 13:52:08 <Sacro> lolman: ?? ???????? ??-?????????? 13:52:21 * lolman slaps Sacro some more 13:52:27 <lolman> !stats 13:52:28 <DorpsGek> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 13:52:37 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/57834 <-- I can't remember this one, but it sure sounds like something I could have said 13:52:42 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: It's yje syiff reqiuired in an interupt which causes the loss though 13:52:45 <Sacro> stats are http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/stats 13:52:49 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: english 13:53:11 <OwenS> Rofl! 13:53:13 *** miika [~miika@cs181254239.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:53:22 <OwenS> It's the stuff .... 13:53:51 <lolman> My other name got to the top 25! 13:53:51 <Sacro> :o Sacro wasn't very popular, getting kicked 5 times! 13:53:59 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: which is handled easily since the fake APIC isnt used by ring0 13:54:34 <Sacro> !kick lolman 13:54:46 <lolman> !ban Sacro 13:54:46 <Diablo-D3> pacifica is supposed to have multiple fake APICs, but I cant remember if intel's will or not 13:54:48 * XeryusTC puts OwenS back to #openttdcoop where he belongs :) 13:55:16 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: you're missing the biggest problem though 13:55:25 * orudge still hasn't managed to get mIRC not to be a pain on 'OwenS' 13:55:26 <orudge> Grr. 13:55:30 * orudge sighs 13:55:42 <Diablo-D3> any released version of windows will not run without this hardware 13:55:47 <orudge> If anybody says 'orudge' and wants to speak to me, I may not notice it as I'm not clicking #openttd every time it flashes. /notice or /query me ;> 13:55:47 * OwenS laughs! OwenS! OwenS! 13:55:47 <Diablo-D3> windows is the ultimate goal of xen 13:56:05 <OwenS> And it runs with VT/Pacifica :) 13:56:09 <Diablo-D3> yup 13:56:12 <Darkvater> orudge: so how about OS/2 support? 13:56:37 <OwenS> Diablo-D3: No, the real one is. So, you interupt, save the registers and handle it. While this IS slower than a function call, it should only be negligable. I would guess theres something else at play, maybe Xen is last in the kernel's interupt handler? 13:56:40 *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89 13:56:52 <Bjarni> Darkvater: http://www.qdb.us/64298 <-- you are mentioned in this one... from last night 13:56:54 *** OwenS is now known as lolman 13:57:00 <lolman> This reminds me of last night :P 13:57:00 <Bjarni> not again 13:57:02 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: like I said, its not enough to care 13:57:07 *** lolman is now known as OwenS 13:57:18 *** JohnUK89 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [get a real name] 13:57:20 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: what you cause is latency 13:57:21 <Sacro> [14:58] <Bjarni> not again <-- ? 13:57:22 *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [get a real name] 13:57:27 <Diablo-D3> you dont cause an actual speed loss 13:57:36 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 13:57:36 <peter1138> ... 13:57:38 <Sacro> ah! 13:57:39 <JohnUK89> :o 13:57:41 <Bjarni> Sacro: they started switching names again 13:57:50 <Sacro> lol 13:57:50 <Diablo-D3> the APIC design allows you to basically queue stuff 13:57:53 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: this is the name I first used 13:58:00 <JohnUK89> You can't kick me for using it 13:58:04 <JohnUK89> :) 13:58:05 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:58:07 <OwenS> O.o 13:58:10 <Diablo-D3> meh 13:58:12 <OwenS> I HAVE a real name 13:58:19 <Diablo-D3> <Diablo-D3> OwenS: what you cause is latency 13:58:22 <Diablo-D3> <Diablo-D3> you dont cause an actual speed loss 13:58:26 <Diablo-D3> <Diablo-D3> the APIC design allows you to basically queue stuff 13:58:35 <Bjarni> well, now you are not switched anymore 13:58:38 <Bjarni> good :) 13:58:54 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I was about to ghost him, actually ;-) 13:59:09 <Diablo-D3> OwenS: whats retarded is windows was never designed to run with a hypervisor 13:59:12 <Diablo-D3> which is retarded 13:59:38 <peter1138> i tell you waht's retarded 13:59:39 <OwenS> Haha, though they didn't exist at the time 13:59:45 <peter1138> my isp fucking up my adsl line 13:59:48 <OwenS> I doubt Windows will ever support Xen, since Xen uses Linux :P 14:00:11 <Diablo-D3> no, hypervisors have existed for a long time 14:00:18 <Diablo-D3> just on other hardware platforms 14:00:31 <Triffid_Hunter> appariently someone wrote a thing for windows xp so it could run as a xen guest, but legal issues prevent it from being released.. 14:00:31 <Diablo-D3> and no, Windows no longer has to support Xen 14:00:37 <peter1138> also, my gas & electric company's website is fucked 14:00:48 <Diablo-D3> the hardware support fixes that 14:01:12 <orudge> [14:56:13] <Darkvater> orudge: so how about OS/2 support? 14:01:23 <orudge> Once I reinstall Virtual PC/vmware and get OS/2 back up and running 14:01:24 <peter1138> contact us > "Knowledge server is not running please try late.r" 14:01:25 <orudge> and reinstall Watcom 14:01:29 <orudge> and generally get my PC into shape 14:01:36 <orudge> then I shall take a look at the GCC patch and see what I can do 14:01:52 *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH 14:01:54 <Darkvater> http://www.qdb.us/44106 \o/ 14:02:02 <ln-> is there a watcom makefile in svn? 14:02:03 <Darkvater> orudge: 2007> 14:02:33 <Bjarni> Darkvater: yeah, I don't know why they rejected that one... it's good 14:02:43 <Bjarni> and I really made that typo xD 14:03:18 <Darkvater> <Born_Acorn> (@Bjarni) should we remind you to wank 14:03:18 <Darkvater> <Born_Acorn> (Born_Acorn) yes 14:03:18 <Darkvater> <Born_Acorn> (Born_Acorn) we should 14:03:20 <Darkvater> <Born_Acorn> (HackyKid) yeah, i might forget 14:03:27 <orudge> Darkvater: Well, hopefully sometime this month, rather than 2007 ¬_ 14:03:33 <orudge> but we will see :p 14:04:11 *** Tron_ [JdDlSL25@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:05:00 <Darkvater> http://www.qdb.us/51961 14:05:07 <Darkvater> <Bjarni> weird. I just posted on the forum and now I got "Posts: 1138" 14:05:07 <Darkvater> <Bjarni> I got peterified :o 14:05:08 <Darkvater> <peter1138> :D 14:06:06 <mikk36> lol 14:06:36 <Darkvater> http://www.qdb.us/57803 14:06:39 <Darkvater> haha awesome 14:07:09 <Sacro> ROFFLEWAFFLEZ :D 14:07:11 <Bjarni> the guy, who posted this one (not me) did it poorly 14:07:14 <mikk36> lol 14:07:21 <Bjarni> like 10 or 15 people replied "top gun" 14:07:30 <orudge> [15:02:02] <ln-> is there a watcom makefile in svn? <-- there's a project file 14:07:39 <orudge> but Watcom doesn't support some of the C++ used in trunk 14:07:43 <orudge> but 0.4.x will build 14:08:02 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/64208 <-- this one actually hurt in real life.... 14:09:58 <Darkvater> http://www.qdb.us/29007 <-- hehe loser 14:11:00 <peter1138> instead of reading quote sites 14:11:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77511.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:11:03 <peter1138> merge tgp ! 14:11:15 * Darkvater is addicted 14:11:22 <Sacro> peter1138: good idea! 14:11:23 <Darkvater> save my soul 14:11:23 <peter1138> it's all bjarni's fault 14:11:28 <peter1138> TGP! 14:11:30 <Bjarni> why me? 14:11:37 <peter1138> because you started it 14:11:45 <Bjarni> I read though that diff and I think it's ok to merge it 14:11:54 <Bjarni> no, I didn't start TGP 14:11:54 <peter1138> i've not read it 14:11:57 <Sacro> whooo 14:12:00 <peter1138> but i know that it's had a massive clean up 14:12:02 <Sacro> Bjarni: commitage! 14:12:20 <Darkvater> http://www.qdb.us/881 14:12:22 <ln-> orudge: what kind of C++ is that? something that uses STL containers? 14:12:31 <Bjarni> Sacro: no, Darkvater need to take a look as well 14:13:03 <orudge> I'm not entirely sure what it specifically is, I'm not all that knowledgeable about more advanced C++ stuff 14:13:08 <orudge> Watcom doesn't seem to like it, anyway 14:13:20 <orudge> and KuDR couldn't figure out how to fix it, so presumably it's Watcom that is broken 14:13:22 <Bjarni> Darkvater: http://www.qdb.us/11215 14:13:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7534B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:53 <Bjarni> orudge: YAPF fails to compile on OSX 10.2 as well 14:13:54 <Prof_Frink> Bah, I'm only on qdb.us once 14:14:10 <Bjarni> it works on 10.3 though, so I haven't bothered really looking into it 14:14:11 <peter1138> Bjarni: buy me an OS X 10.2 machine, and i'll fix it 14:14:23 <orudge> peter1138: pearpc.sf.net, torrentspy.com 14:14:24 <orudge> ;> 14:14:39 <Bjarni> hehe 14:14:55 <peter1138> far too slow 14:15:06 <Bjarni> I tried to get pearpc to work on OSX, but that didn't really work as I had hoped :( 14:15:16 <Bjarni> in fact, it didn't compile 14:15:29 <orudge> I'm still pondering whether my next laptop purchase should be MacBook or a more traditional PC 14:15:35 <orudge> I'm thinking perhaps the latter, but we will see 14:15:43 * orudge thinks he may purchase whatever he's going to purchase when he goes to the US in November 14:15:46 <ln-> a Mac of course 14:16:00 <Prof_Frink> Macintoys are shiny. 14:16:59 *** Netsplit oxygen.oftc.net <-> strange.oftc.net quits: ChrisM87, Maedhros, Diablo-D3, miika, PAStheLoD, Belugas, Mucht|work 14:16:59 *** Netsplit oxygen.oftc.net <-> strange.oftc.net quits: AciD 14:17:17 <Sacro> be gone with you! 14:17:28 <Bjarni> hmm 14:17:30 <Prof_Frink> Ha! oftc is teh suck. 14:17:36 <Bjarni> I getting to kick happy lately 14:17:45 <Prof_Frink> Quakenet never has netsplits. 14:18:08 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: it bloody does 14:18:15 <Sacro> usually its just me... 14:18:20 <Prof_Frink> No it doesn't. 14:18:26 <WolfAngel> lol Patrick` 14:18:29 <Sacro> :o IVE NETSPLIT LOADS 14:18:29 <WolfAngel> woops 14:18:45 <Prof_Frink> patchman says so. 14:18:46 <WolfAngel> Prof_Frink : Quakenet netsplits... 14:19:13 *** Netsplit over, joins: miika, ChrisM87, PAStheLoD, Belugas, Mucht|work, Maedhros, Diablo-D3, AciD 14:19:18 <Mucht|work> Austria 14:19:21 <Mucht|work> hehe 14:19:26 <Mucht|work> STOP :-P 14:19:30 <stillunknown> there is a way to avoid netsplits 14:19:37 <WolfAngel> yeah... 14:19:39 <Prof_Frink> Only have one server? 14:19:44 <stillunknown> yes :-) 14:20:22 <Belugas> there goes my theory... 14:20:35 <WolfAngel> about? 14:20:35 <WolfAngel> ^^ 14:21:06 <stillunknown> a redundant irc based network is another option 14:21:31 <stillunknown> (send everything to 2 or 3 servers and if one fails, the world goes on) 14:21:41 <WolfAngel> *.net *.splits isen't that hard on you are it? 14:22:38 <stillunknown> no 14:26:15 *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ 14:26:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:26:27 <Sacro> wtf 14:26:38 <orudge> hOW ODD 14:26:40 <orudge> Whoops 14:26:44 <Sacro> has ChanServ just returned 14:26:45 <orudge> and what's mode +R, I wonder? 14:26:57 <Sacro> i dont know, but i am 14:27:09 <hylje> +R is registered 14:27:15 <hylje> same as e on fn 14:27:33 <orudge> Ah, right 14:29:44 <OwenS> OK, who the fuck registered my nick with Nickserv? 14:31:28 <Sacro> bwahahah 14:31:45 <peter1138> someone on june 24th 14:31:45 <Sacro> i'd check with the other owen 14:31:55 <OwenS> JUNE 24th? 14:31:59 <OwenS> We weren't here June 24th 14:32:16 <orudge> Then somebody else has that name! 14:32:22 * orudge didn't register it, though. 14:32:22 <peter1138> no 14:32:29 <peter1138> i bet orudge did it 14:32:34 <orudge> Perhaps you could call yourself OweenS. 14:32:37 <orudge> No, I really didn't. 14:32:40 <peter1138> y:) 14:32:40 <orudge> I'm not that vindictive. 14:32:56 <hylje> Ow3nS 14:33:02 <OwenS> Wait a minuite... JohnUK89 has mentioned ghosting me a few times. Show yourself :P 14:33:15 <Brianetta> [14:27] -NickServ- This nickname is registered and protected. If it is your 14:33:15 <Brianetta> [14:27] -NickServ- nick, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password. Otherwise, 14:33:15 <Brianetta> [14:27] -NickServ- please choose a different nick. 14:33:15 <Brianetta> [14:27] -NickServ- You have been automatically identifie 14:33:18 <Brianetta> Dumb services. 14:33:25 <Brianetta> Why bother me with the first three lines? 14:33:29 <Sacro> lol 14:34:05 * Sacro considers making a custom Ubuntu live-cd 14:35:07 <Bjarni> so you will have boobs on the wallpaper? 14:36:00 * JohnUK89 slaps OwenS 14:36:04 <JohnUK89> :) 14:36:11 * OwenS demands his name back 14:36:14 <MeusH> Bjarni, you sinner! 14:36:14 <JohnUK89> You reckon I'd register your nick (one I've never used) 14:36:25 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 14:36:36 <OwenS> You have commented about nickserv ghosting me a few times 14:36:47 <JohnUK89> for using lolman :) 14:36:50 <Sacro> BOOBS :D 14:37:00 <Brianetta> Bjarni: He said custom, not default... 14:37:18 <OwenS> Dapper's is just the logo 14:37:22 <Sacro> Brianetta: are you referring to Linuxxx ? 14:37:25 <OwenS> Not like the original (Warty?) 14:37:27 <Brianetta> ubuntu 14:37:54 <Sacro> yes, that was what /. called it 14:38:03 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 14:38:11 <Brianetta> DaleStan 14:38:26 * DaleStan needs to add a script to do that automatically sometime soonish. 14:38:34 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-192-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 14:46:51 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:50:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:07:12 <JohnUK89> Ooooh I got a copy of Max Payne here...let's see if it works... 15:09:06 <JohnUK89> Hmm...anyone know of a Linux archiver that handles *.ace files? 15:09:51 <Triffid_Hunter> JohnUK89: ark possibly 15:10:08 <JohnUK89> Triffid_Hunter: ta, I'll give it a go 15:10:40 <JohnUK89> Nope :( 15:11:22 <Zoiah> JohnUK89: "unace - uncompress .ace files" :) 15:12:33 <JohnUK89> Just installing uncae now...ta :-D 15:12:37 <JohnUK89> unace* 15:13:56 <JohnUK89> le compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible. 15:13:58 <JohnUK89> BUGGER! 15:21:44 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:26:34 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:27:23 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:09 <Sacro> pmsl, juts been asked whats linux like with virii 15:28:36 <JohnUK89> Sacro: lol 15:29:06 <Diablo-D3> its just the same as linux without virii 15:30:24 <peter1138> mmm, viruses 15:30:38 <Brianetta> virii - ENOTAWORD 15:30:39 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:30:40 <Sacro> BWAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA 15:30:43 <peter1138> i've never caught a linux virus 15:30:47 <Sacro> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=15 15:30:52 <peter1138> but then i've never caught a windows virus either 15:30:58 <Sacro> Rexxie: IE6 on linux 15:30:59 <Brianetta> peter1138: There are only about three that work, and you have to set the system up for them, specially 15:31:01 <Sacro> oops :s 15:31:28 <Darkvater> I had the RPC thingie once 15:31:31 <Sacro> Codeweavers state "Silver 15:31:31 <Sacro> This application installs, and runs well enough to be usable. However we find it has enough bugs to prevent it from running flawlessly." 15:31:42 <Darkvater> was so stupid to install WinXP with the network cable plugged in :( 15:31:48 <Sacro> Darkvater: whoops 15:31:51 <Darkvater> that was the day I truly started hating windows 15:31:53 <JohnUK89> Sacro: it has bugs anyway :P 15:32:04 <Brianetta> Windows needs a redesign 15:32:10 <Sacro> JohnUK89: i know, the thing that made me fall off my chair laughing is that XP has it inbuilt! 15:32:12 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 15:32:14 <Darkvater> windows needs a new map-array ;) 15:32:18 <Brianetta> Like when Apple threw away System and went with BSD/Darwin 15:32:26 <JohnUK89> Sacro: yeah :-D 15:32:29 <Brianetta> MS needs to think along those lines 15:33:51 <Darkvater> my whole pc is about as responsive as a i386 running win2k while it's trying to install VS2003 SP1 15:33:54 <Darkvater> how sick is that? 15:34:23 <Brianetta> QDB number 306: <NtG> people beta test a MS product every time they boot windows 15:34:26 <Brianetta> Quite apt, I thought 15:34:31 <Darkvater> takes 30 minutes to boot notepad :/ 15:34:58 <Sacro> Darkvater: whats worse is that it takes around an hour to install it 15:35:03 <Sacro> and costs around £60 15:35:12 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 15:35:12 <Darkvater> the SP should be free 15:35:35 <Darkvater> ok 10 minutes of 'please wait...' and now in its 5th minute of 'preparing to install...' 15:35:42 <peter1138> heh 15:35:44 <Darkvater> now what the fuck does the program actually do? 15:35:53 <Brianetta> I own two copies of XP Home, one copy of WIndows 98 SE and one Windows 95 OSR2. 15:35:54 <peter1138> fills your harddrive 15:36:00 <Brianetta> That's four copies of Windows more than I need. 15:36:30 <Darkvater> int main() {printf("please wait\n"};sleep(10000);printf("preparing to install...\n");sleep(283423); return 0;} 15:36:36 <Sacro> i have 1 copy of 95, and 1 of XP Home 15:37:06 <Sacro> for i = 1, i = $numberofXPBugs, i++ sleep $i 15:37:08 <Brianetta> It was cheaper to by my Thinkpad with Windows than without 15:37:15 <Brianetta> which is just binkers 15:37:17 <Brianetta> er 15:37:19 <Brianetta> bonkers 15:37:19 <JohnUK89> 1 copy of 95 OSR2, 2 copies of 98SE, 2 copies of XP Home and 1 copy of XP Pro 15:37:23 <JohnUK89> :S 15:37:45 <Darkvater> 3 legal copies of XP pro here ;p 15:37:55 <JohnUK89> (not to mention my copy of 3.11) 15:37:59 <Brianetta> Darkvater: How many illegal? 15:38:03 <Brianetta> Since you did specify 15:38:18 <Brianetta> I never owned a 3.11 license 15:38:32 <Darkvater> Brianetta: hmm about 4-5. win2k/98/95 15:39:01 <Darkvater> YES 15:39:14 <Darkvater> 'please wait while windows configures vs.net 2003' 15:39:35 <Darkvater> Brianetta: although I only have them on vmware 15:39:38 <Darkvater> to test openttd ;) 15:40:16 <Brianetta> heh 15:40:31 <Brianetta> I use Windows XP to test that autopilot still doesn't work with Windows OpenTTD 15:40:57 <Brianetta> and to test that my if statement that gives a message to the user if it's Windows, works 15:42:27 <Darkvater> yes yes it's installing! 15:42:37 <Brianetta> "You are using Windows. OpenTTD has been written specifically so that the dedicated server console starts in a separate window, and unfortunately, autopilot cannot control this window. If you are confident that this has changed, set windows=true in openttd.cfg" 15:42:39 <Darkvater> I wonder what it has been doing for the past 20 minutes though 15:42:54 <Darkvater> Brianetta: that is not true 15:43:10 <Darkvater> Brianetta: I/we couldn't get it to use the same console window it started in 15:43:29 <Darkvater> hehe 15:43:34 *** andrei [~andrei@81.23.102.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:43:38 <Brianetta> It's true that it's specifically written to start the dedicated console in a new window 15:43:39 <Darkvater> 'time remaining: 0 seconds'... 15:43:42 <Darkvater> and it's still busy 15:43:52 <Brianetta> I never gave reasons 15:44:00 <Darkvater> all consoles are started in a new window on windows 15:44:14 <Brianetta> eh? 15:44:21 <Brianetta> Have you run telnet in XP? 15:44:33 <Brianetta> It's a 32 bit console application that runs in the window you start it form 15:44:47 <Brianetta> The ftp client always ran in the same window 15:45:21 <Brianetta> unfortunately, as long as OpenTTD isn't a Win32 console application, no version of Expect for Windows can control it. 15:45:24 <Darkvater> I didn't say it isn't possibly 15:45:33 <Brianetta> you said "all consoles" 15:45:46 <Darkvater> openttd is not a win32 console application 15:45:50 <Darkvater> Brianetta: + of openttd 15:45:53 <Sacro> it should be 15:45:59 <Brianetta> I know it isn't! 15:46:03 <Darkvater> good :) 15:46:12 <Brianetta> but I can't think of a reason why it isn't 15:46:23 <Darkvater> probably cause of GDI, donnu 15:46:36 <Brianetta> I wonder if a cygwin compile would work? 15:47:01 <Sacro> Brianetta: dont think so 15:47:09 <Darkvater> yaay 'gathering required information' 15:47:12 <Darkvater> ok I've had enough 15:47:13 <Brianetta> Well, all the #IFDEF WIN32 would have to be chopped out 15:47:21 <Darkvater> bb whenever that damn shit is done 15:47:49 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:18 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:33 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 15:49:40 *** AciD [~AciD@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 15:53:20 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 15:55:59 *** MeusH[away] [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:49 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 16:00:54 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 16:00:57 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:03:40 *** hj3lmen [~rasmus@cpe.atm2-0-5137.0x50a61c8e.kd4nxx16.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:11:25 <Sacro> cant figure eggdrop :( 16:11:42 *** mikk36|lap [~mikk35@pc75.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:47 <JohnUK89> Sacro: lol 16:12:18 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-5440cd7c.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:13:13 <JohnUK89> I can't figure out why this environment variable isn't fixing SDL apps... 16:14:17 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:14:30 <Eddi|zuHause> rm -rf / <- fixes every bug ;) 16:15:27 <Eddi|zuHause> (too late... otherwithe this could have looked funny ;)) 16:17:04 * Sacro watches bb 16:19:05 <Sacro> :o ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LIGHTNING 16:23:59 *** hj3lmen [~rasmus@cpe.atm2-0-5137.0x50a61c8e.kd4nxx16.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:33 <Diablo-D3> AAAAAAARGGGGHH NO COFFEE! 16:24:49 <Sacro> ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHH Diablo-D3 16:25:12 <Diablo-D3> AARRGGGGH, Castle of. 16:25:25 <Sacro> Wolfenstein? 16:25:48 <Diablo-D3> no, the castle of aaarrrgggghh. 16:26:26 <Sacro> ah yes 16:28:21 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:01 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:32:32 *** Rohan [~rohan@212-181-138-111-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:33:06 <OwenS> Mad people.... 16:40:50 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 16:41:28 <Sacro> John Prescott faced further embarrassment last night after it was claimed that he had described George Bush as "crap" in a private meeting with Labour MPs. 16:42:01 <Brianetta> Calling Bush "crap" is embarrassing how? 16:42:14 <Diablo-D3> apparently so 16:42:32 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:44:29 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:44:37 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 16:44:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host196-159.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 16:44:58 <Wolf01> >_> 16:46:24 <Sacro> Brianetta: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400931&in_page_id=1770 16:47:46 <Brianetta> I work for the (almost) neighbouring Sunderland City Council. 16:47:58 <Brianetta> We haven't had such training, but I can see why. 16:48:11 <Brianetta> "We are not allowed to call women pet, hinny, dear, darling, sweetheart or love." 16:48:14 <Brianetta> Too bloody right. 16:48:14 <Sacro> i dont see why 16:48:26 <Brianetta> Those are familiar terms. 16:48:29 <Sacro> oh. well..maybe 16:48:38 <Brianetta> You aren't familiar with the public, and should use formal terms. 16:49:00 <Brianetta> "...I have been bought up with my family using those words." 16:49:02 <Brianetta> note, family 16:49:17 <Brianetta> It's like calling an elderly man "grandad" because he's old 16:49:33 <Sacro> hmm, true 16:49:34 <Brianetta> "You can't just start calling an 85-year-old Mrs Jones." 16:49:43 <Brianetta> Beggars belief - what would you rather call her? 16:49:46 <Sacro> especially if its a welsh woman 16:49:52 <Sacro> instant dismissal there 16:50:57 <hylje> especially if it's a sacro 16:51:03 <hylje> instant dismissal there 16:53:28 * JohnUK89 slaps hylje 16:53:33 <JohnUK89> don't take the mick :P 16:54:20 *** Flyer [~marcelowu@201-1-104-180.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 16:54:42 * Sacro slaps JohnUK89 - no slapping 16:54:51 <JohnUK89> :o 16:54:57 * JohnUK89 kicks Sacro 16:55:02 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 17:01:33 <Sacro> grr,i need to learn VB NET, MSSQL, ASP and JAVA 17:03:26 <ln-> dump VB.net and ASP 17:04:02 <hylje> you dont need to learn anything of that if you take up django 17:04:07 <hylje> just python 17:04:11 *** Flyer [~marcelowu@201-1-104-180.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #openttd [] 17:04:25 <Sacro> rofl 17:04:32 <Sacro> just seen a job for "catering ass" 17:04:37 <hylje> hah 17:05:14 <Sacro> teehee, it amused me 17:09:13 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:54 <Sacro> hmm 17:10:57 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:10:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:11:15 <Sacro> grr, how to enter UTF-8 chars in gnome 17:11:27 <Sacro> coulda sworn it was ctrl+alt 17:13:45 <Diablo-D3> lol no 17:14:08 <Sacro> ? 17:14:11 <Sacro> :( i know 17:14:14 <hylje> lol rly 17:18:04 <ln-> sacro: ??? 17:18:09 <ln-> Sacro: ctrl+shift 17:18:25 <Sacro> ln-: no :( 17:18:27 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:18:27 <Sacro> brb 17:18:32 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-225-199.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:18:33 <Diablo-D3> it is control-shift 17:18:38 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:18:46 <Diablo-D3> ???????? 17:18:53 <Diablo-D3> ?? 17:19:11 <Diablo-D3> ????VeE56455Tee G ?5T 17:19:20 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-225-199.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:19:29 <Sacro> nope :( 17:19:36 *** Rohan [~rohan@212-181-138-111-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Rohan] 17:19:40 <ln-> what do you mean by UTF-8 chars? 17:19:43 <Diablo-D3> it is control-shift 17:19:52 <Sacro> ??? 17:19:53 <Diablo-D3> press control-shift and tap numbers on your keypad 17:19:53 <Eddi|zuHause> it's unicode chars, not UTF-8 chars 17:20:05 <Sacro> well, yeah 17:20:07 <Diablo-D3> Eddi|zuHause: people dont bother making the distinction anymore 17:20:18 <Sacro> doesnt work :( 17:20:26 <Diablo-D3> Sacro: is numlock on? 17:20:36 <Sacro> doesnt work with either 17:20:37 <Diablo-D3> nm, it apparently works when its on too 17:20:43 <Diablo-D3> Sacro: left shift, left control 17:20:46 <Sacro> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 17:20:47 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:20:54 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:20:58 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:21:02 <Diablo-D3> 17:21:05 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:21:08 <Sacro> cant get it to type em 17:21:08 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:21:21 <Diablo-D3> <Sacro> ??? 17:21:25 <Diablo-D3> that typed unicode. 17:21:29 <Sacro> copy paste 17:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause> that was copy-pasted ;) 17:21:32 <Diablo-D3> ahh 17:21:43 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:21:45 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:21:47 <Diablo-D3> ? 17:22:00 <Diablo-D3> Sacro: is your app a gtk2 app? 17:22:04 <Sacro> yep 17:22:05 <Sacro> x-chat 17:22:08 <Diablo-D3> wtf 17:22:11 <Diablo-D3> Im doing it right now 17:22:22 <Diablo-D3> is your input method set correctly? 17:22:28 <Sacro> i think so 17:22:28 <Diablo-D3> right click in the text box 17:22:40 <Diablo-D3> should be set to default 17:22:57 <Sacro> greeen 17:23:11 <Diablo-D3> grwhat? 17:23:12 <Sacro> errm, cant see that 17:23:21 <Sacro> red :D 17:23:36 <Diablo-D3> this channel is set to +c 17:23:42 <Diablo-D3> all your color codes are being stripped out 17:23:46 <Sacro> d'oh :( 17:23:51 <Sacro> all your colours are belong to me 17:23:57 <Diablo-D3> input method should be right under select all 17:24:05 <ln-> 3hmm 17:24:19 <Sacro> <span style="color: #F00">red :D</span> 17:24:24 <Diablo-D3> Sacro: press control-w 17:24:32 <Sacro> insert attribute or colour code 17:24:33 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-225-199.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [Leaving] 17:24:38 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-225-199.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:24:43 <Sacro> yep, does close window 17:24:48 <Diablo-D3> well, we know your control key works. 17:25:07 <Sacro> yup 17:25:10 <Diablo-D3> NOW TYPE SOME CAPS WITH SHIFT HELD DOWN 17:25:21 <Sacro> YEAH OK THEN!!! 17:25:24 <Diablo-D3> hrm 17:25:27 <Diablo-D3> wtf is going on 17:25:31 <Diablo-D3> is your gtk ancient or something? 17:25:32 <glx> now open the window and jump 17:25:44 <Sacro> glx: im on the ground floor! 17:26:09 <lws1984> then go higher! 17:26:13 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D3EF.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26:32 *** MeusH[away] [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:39 <Diablo-D3> Sacro: if it doesnt have input method in the menu, then your setup is ancient 17:26:48 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:52 <Patrick`> mm, gnome 17:26:54 <Sacro> it shouldnt be 17:26:54 <Sacro> it worked before 17:27:03 <Sacro> gnome 2.14.3 17:27:10 <Diablo-D3> wtf 17:27:12 <Sacro> xchat 2.6.6 17:27:13 <Diablo-D3> what distro? 17:29:30 <Sacro> Arch 17:29:56 <Diablo-D3> hmmmm 17:30:23 <Diablo-D3> I wonder if arch's gtk is broken 17:30:57 <Sacro> it could be 17:34:07 * Sacro considers cooking food on his lapto 17:34:12 <Sacro> *laptop 17:34:15 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Moral of the story, always make friends with Saab dealers.] 17:42:15 <Sacro> @?e¶?<-???->øþßð???j??»¢""nµ· 17:43:40 <Sacro> ? oooh 17:45:01 <Wolf01> what are you doing? 17:45:59 <Belugas> i think Sacro just drop some food on his keyboard :) 17:46:06 <Sacro> wow! 17:46:12 <Sacro> Æcho! 17:46:41 <Wolf01> i read [19:42:24] <Sacro> @1'm#g4y! ;) 17:46:57 *** glx_ [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:47:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 17:47:01 <Sacro> hah! no utf8'd ness 17:50:09 <JohnUK89> This could get annoying lol 17:52:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by glx_))] 17:52:14 *** glx_ is now known as glx 17:52:17 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:02 <hylje> yes >> /dev/dsp 17:55:22 <Maedhros> anyone want to test a gradual loading at stations patch? http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/gradual_loading-r5911.diff :) 18:01:37 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 18:03:00 *** Zr40_ [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:38 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:38 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:48 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 20:47:05 *** Bjarni is now known as Anna 20:47:13 *** ln- was kicked from #openttd by Anna [channel cleanup] 20:47:19 *** Anna is now known as Bjarni 20:47:44 <Bjarni> let's see if he notice this :p 20:47:45 <Mucht> ... 20:47:45 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 20:48:16 <ln-> men jag spammade inte 20:48:27 <Bjarni> :p 20:48:58 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 20:49:30 <Bjarni> LadyHawk was here? 20:49:42 <Bjarni> we had female company and I didn't notice??? 20:49:50 <Bjarni> damn idler :p 20:50:55 *** Zr40_ [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:14 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E84.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 20:56:41 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 20:57:48 <MeusH> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/285 20:57:50 <MeusH> LOVE ME 20:57:55 <MeusH> or better not 20:58:06 * MeusH puts on his steel pants 20:58:25 * JohnUK89 goes looking for a woman 20:58:29 <MeusH> Bjarni: could you please take a look (read: commit) #285? 20:58:46 *** Diesel [~opera@86.127.17.247] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:59:53 <ln-> ladyhawk is a female? 21:00:18 <ln-> JohnUK89: darkvater isn't quite dutch. 21:00:31 <JohnUK89> ln-: phew...lol 21:00:36 <MeusH> goodnight 21:00:43 <JohnUK89> MeusH: night 21:00:54 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: bye - quit] 21:00:56 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:02:06 <Patrick`> Bjarni: I second that patch 21:02:28 <Patrick`> there are some things which are happening that were never anticipated because the game was originally engineered to be 256x256 21:02:42 <Patrick`> such as the high density of the "low" setting 21:02:46 <Patrick`> but that's another gripe 21:02:55 *** JohnUK89 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [carrying out the will of Darkvater, TrueLight and myself (and also because you disconnected while I wrote the kick message before)] 21:03:11 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:03:14 <JohnUK89> :P 21:03:49 <Bjarni> Patrick`: you got a full URL to that patch? 21:03:55 <Bjarni> (I'm lazy right now) 21:04:39 <Bjarni> oh wait 21:04:43 <Bjarni> nevermind, found it :p 21:05:22 <Bjarni> hmm, that looks really nice 21:06:03 <Bjarni> exploited... I would say we use the industries for their own benefit, not exploit them 21:06:11 <Bjarni> but maybe that's the same in Poland :p 21:07:42 <Rubidium> Bjarni: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/284 <- that 'bug' is bogus 21:07:44 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 21:09:40 *** webfreakz [~Ronald@195.73.147.226] has left #openttd [] 21:10:53 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 21:11:41 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:13:18 <Bjarni> Rubidium: err, I get an exe file when I download the savegame... how did you test this one? 21:13:50 <ln-> "If you want more information about why we moved, feel free to contact either Bjarni or TrueLight. They can explain the reason in great detail." ... haha, the great detail would probably be "freenode sucks" ;) 21:14:53 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D3EF.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:02 <Rubidium> Bjarni: just rename it to a .sav 21:16:27 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 21:16:36 <Bjarni> ln-: yeah :) 21:21:15 <Bjarni> bug "solved" 21:21:21 <Bjarni> at least the bug report is closed :) 21:27:22 *** PoshSpod [~PoshSpod@82.111.242.228] has joined #openttd 21:29:42 *** PoshSpod [~PoshSpod@82.111.242.228] has left #openttd [] 21:29:46 *** PoshSpod [~PoshSpod@82.111.242.228] has joined #openttd 21:30:10 *** PoshSpod [~PoshSpod@82.111.242.228] has left #openttd [] 21:30:13 *** PoshSpod [~PoshSpod@82.111.242.228] has joined #openttd 21:34:07 <PoshSpod> is this working? 21:34:35 <PoshSpod> Hmm... 21:34:59 <glx> [23:34:36] <PoshSpod> is this working? <-- what? 21:35:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd say 'no' 21:35:37 <PoshSpod> New IRC client 21:35:50 <PoshSpod> not a great one either 21:36:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i use Konversation, which is not that great, and i should switch, but i am lazy 21:36:42 <PoshSpod> I'm on a Mac 21:36:53 <PoshSpod> this is Fire 21:37:04 <PoshSpod> if that means anything to anyone 21:37:13 <lws1984> irssi workse better 21:37:14 <lws1984> *works 21:42:49 <JohnUK89> As does Xchat :-P 21:43:01 <JohnUK89> (sorry I'm late sir) 21:50:12 <Patrick`> will trying to rm /dev/null actually do anything? 21:50:15 <Patrick`> I'm scared to try. 21:50:32 <StormDragoness> why would you remove nothing? 21:50:40 <OwenS> It would remove it for this session at worst 21:50:44 <OwenS> UDev/DevFS would recreate it 21:51:07 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:51:52 <Diablo-D3> http://consumerist.com/consumer/dreamhost/antispammer-rage-truer-than-aim-195004.php 21:51:55 <Diablo-D3> fucking win 21:57:42 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by XeryusTC_))] 21:59:00 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FB15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:00:43 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 22:04:02 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 22:04:19 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.147.5] has joined #openttd 22:14:19 <Maedhros> is there anyone here who could explain something about newgrf gradual loading values to me? 22:14:50 <Maedhros> i.e. why they're 2x too big in the dbsetxl, and how ttdpatch knows to divide them by 2, while those in the UKRS are left alone... 22:19:56 *** Diablo-D3 [~diablo@pool-64-222-232-26.port.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: do coders dream of sheep()?] 22:27:21 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FB15.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:45 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: good night] 22:31:08 *** sayno [~sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 22:33:54 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-5440cd7c.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 22:34:20 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Away 22:37:38 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-5440cd7c.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:41:24 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 22:43:15 *** Spitfireleet [~samuelpou@host86-133-105-106.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:53:07 <Wolf01> 'night 22:53:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host196-159.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has quit [Quit: e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro] 22:54:09 *** PoshSpod [~PoshSpod@82.111.242.228] has left #openttd [] 22:57:17 *** lws|Away is now known as lws1984 23:01:29 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-5440cd7c.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:51 *** rainerd [~rainerd@pD9ED63D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:14:51 <glx> !seen RichK67 23:14:51 <DorpsGek> glx, RichK67 (~RichK67@194.164.100.143) was last seen quitting #openttd 4 days 20 hours 40 minutes ago (13.08. 02:26) stating "Quit: RichK67" after spending some time there. 23:14:57 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 23:19:12 <ln-> http://bin.4chan.org/g/src/1155748944128.jpg (safe for work) 23:20:41 <SpComb> how mean D: 23:21:51 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29:00 <Bjarni> somebody have been making a lot of fun there :) 23:32:31 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37BB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:44 *** exe [~dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 23:34:56 *** JohnUK89 [~john@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 23:38:03 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B355DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:15 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:45:40 <Eddi|zuHause> how many people work after 1AM? ;) 23:45:47 <lws1984> me! 23:53:44 *** rainerd [~rainerd@pD9ED63D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Bis bald] 23:56:33 <Bjarni> well 23:56:43 <Bjarni> I'm not asleep 23:58:10 <Eddi|zuHause> well... i have heard of people talking during sleep, but not typing ;) 23:58:40 <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause: it's only a small difference 23:58:46 <Bjarni> if I talk in my sleep, I should be telling secrets 23:58:57 <Bjarni> guess what: I'm not telling you any secrets right now 23:59:02 <JohnUK89> Eddi|zuHause, never heard of voice recognition? :) 23:59:34 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: say slash quit 23:59:50 <JohnUK89> Bjarni, slash quit :P 23:59:59 <JohnUK89> I'm not falling for it ;-)