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00:00:30 <jordi> blathijs: mkay, I guess you're sleeping. We can talk tomorrow. 00:06:21 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 00:06:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C491.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:31 *** nowhere [~sjoerd@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/] 00:12:23 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-160-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:31 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 00:13:11 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:13:12 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:13 *** Digitalfox_ is now known as Digitalfox 00:17:27 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 00:36:49 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:36:54 *** Netsplit osmotic.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: Triffid_Hunter, A1win, setrodox, sPooT, stillunknown, TheMask96, Prof_Frink, KeeperOfTheSoul, eQualize1, valhallasw, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 00:36:54 *** Netsplit over, joins: blathijs 00:36:54 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-55.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 00:36:59 *** Netsplit over, joins: valhallasw, TheMask96 00:36:59 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 00:37:03 *** Netsplit over, joins: A1win 00:38:05 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 00:38:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 00:38:26 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 00:38:43 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 00:39:08 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 00:39:08 *** KeeperOfTheSoul [~a@dyn-62-56-102-103.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:39:19 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 00:41:23 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 00:41:52 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:52 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:55 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:41:56 *** Digitalfox_ is now known as Digitalfox 00:42:40 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 00:46:19 <blathijs> hey jordi 00:47:21 <blathijs> jordi: I'm busy in a puzzling game atm, so no sleep until the puzzle is finished 00:47:25 <blathijs> Am rather busy, tho 00:48:18 <jordi> oh 00:48:35 <blathijs> But, to answer your questions 00:48:39 <jordi> blathijs: re your question about where to stick the sources 00:48:52 <blathijs> I would be interested in becoming an active debian contributor 00:48:56 <blathijs> given time, of course 00:49:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:05 <jordi> do you know what the difference is between deb-main, or ext-maint? 00:49:13 <jordi> I guess deb-maint is for official packages or so 00:49:20 <jordi> and we should aim for that in that case 00:49:23 *** glx|away is now known as glx 00:49:30 <jordi> but I can't see a README or anything anywhere in collab-maint 00:49:39 <jordi> that's great to hear! 00:49:54 <jordi> you may want to start the process as soon as possible 00:50:01 <jordi> the NM process can be long. 00:50:35 <blathijs> I've been searching, but I think deb-maint is for debian maintainers or wannabe debian maintainers 00:50:43 <blathijs> while ext-main is for external maintainers 00:50:58 <jordi> then deb-maint is me, and you, if you want to become one 00:51:12 <blathijs> then I'll commit to deb-main this week 00:51:40 <blathijs> btw, are you an IRC regular? Or just for the occasion? 00:53:00 <jordi> I'm always around 00:53:08 <jordi> on gimpnet, feenode and oftc 00:54:19 <blathijs> k, good to know 00:54:30 * blathijs on freenode, oftc and a dozen others :-) 00:57:21 <blathijs> but, I'm back to puzzling again 00:57:33 <blathijs> jordi: I'll let you know when 0.5.0 is done and packages 00:57:37 <blathijs> s/s$/d 00:57:40 <jordi> I tried leaving freenode, but there's a few channels which I can't get rid of 00:57:56 <jordi> blathijs: great. Have there been any packaging change since my patch? 00:58:02 <jordi> (haven't looked at rc5, sorry) 00:58:37 <blathijs> nope 00:58:53 <blathijs> uhm, perhaps there are 00:59:07 <blathijs> I think I added fontconfig and freetype support to the compiled binaries 00:59:41 <blathijs> which, for some reason would not properly autodetect in my sbuild chroots, but worked fine when forced with a makefile switch 00:59:46 <blathijs> bbl 01:01:24 <jordi> okay 01:01:27 <jordi> ttyt 01:06:20 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:58 <blove> rubidium: ping 01:26:36 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498EE1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:36:30 <blove> I've resubmitted my TileHeight patch (FS#653) with the translation text removed as discussed here several hours ago. 01:40:04 <Sacro> blove: he will probably be asleep 01:47:41 <blove> The patch was not specifically for him; I had something else (though somewhat related) to ask him about. 01:48:34 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:48:52 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 02:01:04 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-204-187.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:10:23 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11:23 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498EE1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:43 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 02:19:01 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:41 *** KeeperOfTheSoul [~a@dyn-62-56-102-103.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [] 02:31:48 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75CE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:38:05 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75A43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:42:43 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 02:44:49 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-8-186.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: WEEEEEEE] 02:47:33 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:51:19 *** Sacro|Mobile is now known as Sacro|Zzz 02:52:24 *** Tefad [~tefad@71.63.8.186] has joined #openttd 03:10:48 *** Sacro|Laptop [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 03:15:36 *** Sacro|Zzz [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:27:40 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 03:31:49 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 03:33:32 *** Sacro|Laptop [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:36:32 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:53:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80609.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:56:21 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:57:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B836F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 03:57:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 03:59:18 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:00:43 <Hinrik> regarding cargo payment rates... 04:01:08 <Hinrik> the graph mentions "a distance of 20 squares" 04:01:49 <Hinrik> is the distance measured straight from station to station or the distance traveled by the train? 04:02:07 <glx> straight 04:02:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> "straight" being manhattan distance 04:02:40 <Hinrik> ok, so it's in my interest to construct short routes for the trains... 04:03:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> long routes tend to be more profital, but long detours are unprofitable 04:03:41 <Hinrik> yeah, exactly :) 04:10:41 <Hinrik> so, the most profitable train would be a maglev one carrying valuables from a bank in at end of the map straight to a bank at the other end 04:12:36 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:13:32 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 04:19:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:26:16 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:32:09 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:02:23 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 05:07:32 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:24 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 05:13:07 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498EF7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:15:48 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-203-51-1-248.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.10/2007021601]] 05:19:24 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 05:20:33 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:24:49 *** jotham [~jotham@202.20.7.220.dts.net.nz] has joined #openttd 05:25:03 <jotham> did that woman that made the cool graphics mods for openttd ever release them? 05:33:53 *** Hinrik [~bla@dsl-228-236.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:37:56 *** Cos [~Cos@69-161-68-165.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 05:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> i only know of the trees 05:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> besides, that were "mods" for ttdp, not openttd 05:49:30 *** Hinrik [~bla@dsl-228-236.hive.is] has joined #openttd 05:50:36 <jotham> ok 06:00:41 *** Cos [~Cos@69-161-68-165.bflony.adelphia.net] has quit [Quit: off like a prom dress] 06:01:33 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:10:27 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB777B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:16:55 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB5581.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:28:13 *** llugo [~lugo@pD9583F33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:35:00 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9581DA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:45:50 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:49:11 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:49:11 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:11 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:44 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:56:48 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:03:34 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489ED17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:07:26 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 07:27:23 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:23 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:53 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:30:16 *** lolman [~john@81.100.228.56] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:36:59 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:37:04 *** moe [~maui_key@p5498EF7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:40:03 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498EF7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:17 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 08:06:41 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:15:06 *** TinoDidri [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:16:18 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 08:19:54 *** Wolfenst1ijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 08:20:05 *** ln-_ [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 08:20:23 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:20:37 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:37 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:37 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:37 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:37 *** illu [~illu@data-pirates.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:37 *** nfc_ [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:37 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 08:20:39 *** illu [~illu@data-pirates.org] has joined #openttd 08:20:46 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 08:20:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 08:22:03 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:22:08 *** Twofish [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:23:02 <Hinrik> wee! http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3811/stationwf7.png 08:23:20 <Hinrik> it's getting hard to add more tracks to it :P 08:33:26 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E34E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:45:17 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 08:46:03 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [] 08:49:05 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 08:55:33 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E34E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:04:21 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:08:42 *** boekabart_ [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has joined #openttd 09:10:00 <boekabart_> Totally unrelated question, but i'm sure someone here knows: How to apply a patch if you don't have TortioseSVN installed? does svn offer this somehow? 09:12:38 <Rubidium> with a tool called 'patch' 09:16:23 <boekabart_> comes with svn? 09:16:37 <boekabart_> .. nope 09:16:39 <Rubidium> no 09:16:39 <boekabart_> googleing 09:16:52 <Smoovious> google is your friend 09:17:04 <boekabart_> and business partner in 1 ;) 09:17:29 <Smoovious> boekabart_... btw... the library you sent me was just the thing... been running my own builds for over a week now... thanky muchly for your help 09:17:57 <boekabart_> no problem! MS should supply this mini sdk themselves 09:18:50 <Smoovious> M$ should do LOTS of things they don't. :P 09:18:56 <Smoovious> and should stop doing lots of things they shouldn't be 09:18:57 *** Tino|R152 [~Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 09:47:40 <jordi> blathijs: I'm around now 09:52:27 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-47.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:57:46 <jotham> heh that's nuts and ugly Hinrik 09:58:11 <Hinrik> I know :D 10:05:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F358.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:12:56 <Smoovious> a whole lot of those lines could be combined into a nice network 10:13:12 <Smoovious> tho I'm a little jealous of the 1600x1200 viewport. :D 10:13:49 <Biff> boekabart_: patch should be shipped with your operating system =) 10:16:02 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 10:17:20 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-47.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:18:02 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-47.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 10:25:09 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 10:48:44 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 10:48:59 <TrueBrain> GENERAL NOTICE: openttd.org services will be done for a little while, machine goes in reboot (kernel upgrade) 10:50:12 <TrueBrain> GENERAL NOTICE: openttd.org services will be down for a little while, machine goes in reboot (kernel upgrade) 10:50:15 <TrueBrain> (nice typo :p) 10:50:21 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50:21 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50:21 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50:22 <ln-_> how much uptime does it lose? 10:51:47 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:54:39 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 10:54:53 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD services should be resumed... 10:54:56 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has left #openttd [] 11:00:07 <Smoovious> when? 11:00:08 <Smoovious> :P 11:01:30 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-47.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:51 *** |mike| [~kvirc@dynamic-unidsl-85-197-23-236.westend.de] has joined #openttd 11:08:28 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:41 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:09 * HMage is defagmenting his hard drive 11:14:37 <HMage> er, defragmenting the drive 11:16:26 <ln-_> the first one is useful too 11:16:44 <HMage> I know 11:16:55 <HMage> too bad it's not possible 11:19:25 <Darkvater> HMage: did you have any luck with directsound, or haven't looked at it anymore? 11:19:57 <HMage> I can't compile - this PC is rigged for heavy use in audio software now, so I can't install .NET 11:20:12 <Darkvater> he 11:20:46 <HMage> somehow when I install any version of .NET the operating system fails to deliver audio updates at least 750 times per second 11:22:46 <HMage> if you could compile for me with primary->Play() I'd be grateful and happy to test that 11:22:59 <Darkvater> oh yeah...forgot 11:23:00 <Darkvater> hang on 11:23:07 <Smoovious> what audio stuff are you doing, HMage? 11:23:25 <HMage> Smoovious: nuendo 2, ASIO 2.0 11:23:47 <Smoovious> not familiar with the names... what are you using it for? 11:24:33 <HMage> with 64-sample audio buffer @ 48kHz nuendo drops audio even when there's task manager launched - the delays introduced by going through all processes and acquiring all their info are too huge for steady delivery of audio to audio card. 11:24:52 <HMage> ASIO 2.0 is used for low-latency live audio (~1ms) processing 11:24:55 <HMage> er, delivery 11:25:00 <HMage> processing is done in Nuendo 2 11:25:27 <Darkvater> HMage: a few minutes... 11:25:29 <HMage> to have so little latency, audio buffer has to be small 11:25:32 <Smoovious> are you doing rebroadcasting, or mastering, or something else? 11:25:32 <Smoovious> <-- musician interest 11:26:40 <HMage> Smoovious: I'm a sound engineer, this laptop goes to audio studio to be a multichannel host. It's easier to set up audio routing though software rather than go and patch the cables each time there's need to tweak something. 11:26:53 * Smoovious nods. 11:27:14 <Smoovious> how cool... will have to remember that next time I set up for audio again... 11:27:32 <Smoovious> been a long time since I used my computers for audio 11:27:34 <HMage> Smoovious: the .NET problem is observed only by me so far, so it should be this PC 11:27:44 <HMage> to blame 11:27:47 * Smoovious nods. 11:29:16 <roboboy> gnight 11:29:16 <Smoovious> last time I was set up for audio, I had the computer hooked into a DX7 keyboard, as well as a mic for my sax, so I could manipulate the way it sounded... 11:29:56 <HMage> you play saxophone? 11:30:37 <Smoovious> primarily, yes... but I can float on all of thewinds (except oboe and bassoon... the double-reeds tickle too much)... and I can fill on keyboard-based instruments too 11:30:56 <Smoovious> one of my friends, covers everything I don't... we only overlap on keyboards... 11:31:17 <Smoovious> well, except for drum-set... neither of us has the coordination for that 11:31:36 <HMage> as a musician I'm worth nothing, been learning to play piano for about a year passively but my progress is slow so far 11:31:38 <Darkvater> HMage: http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/openttd_4.exe 11:31:58 <HMage> Darkvater: downloading 11:32:25 <Smoovious> I just took to it pretty quickly when I started... sucked being in public school tho... could have used more advanced training at the time 11:33:20 <Smoovious> like... how many years do you have to practice the school song before you can play it right? its not like it was difficult... it was only the Ohio State song... :P 11:33:56 <Smoovious> first chance I got to get out of concert/marching band and into the jazz band I just jumped at it 11:35:13 <HMage> :) 11:35:28 <Smoovious> haven't done much playing since... sitting in here and there with friends' groups... sometimes one of the colleges needs a filler, so I'll make a little $ on that... wish I had been able to take it further, but so long as I still get chances to play, I'm happy 11:35:52 <HMage> I'd like to listen to you if you have anything to show. 11:35:55 <Smoovious> I'm involved in 2 community bands right now.. 11:37:06 <Smoovious> thanks, but I'm woefully out of practice... just started getting involved in playing again recently... spent a bunch of years helping mom take care of her partner... so I dropped everything, including a social life for about 5-6 years... 11:37:26 <Smoovious> used up my savings too 11:37:27 <HMage> I see. Did you drop TTD too? :) 11:37:57 <Smoovious> yeah, actually... I hadn't played TTD in a hell of a long time before then... just got back into it recently, in the past month 11:38:28 <Smoovious> tho I was playing a lot of RRTycoon2 :D 11:38:32 <HMage> :) 11:39:56 <HMage> as for me, all my life I was preparing to be a programmer, but I've ended up as a sound engineer. I like this better, being a programmer helps if I need to code anything audio related, but I like making things _sound_. 11:40:39 <Smoovious> hehehe... we kinda went opposites... I was always good at programming and with computers, but I never wanted to do it for a living... never wanted to end up hating it... programming things that don't interest me... 11:40:48 <Smoovious> amortization or accounting programs, for instance... 11:40:53 * Smoovious commits suicide at the thought. 11:41:16 <HMage> :D I've ended up as a sound engineer because I didn't like programming too. So not quite opposites. 11:41:48 <HMage> the moment I realized the theory and practice of programming is much different I decided to venture into something else. 11:41:51 <Smoovious> music tho, I wanted to go into... and was on my way, already playing professionally before I got out of high school... but I didn't havemy own instrument at the time... so... well, that dream died pretty hard... finally got one of my own years later, but by then, I was so out of practice... 11:42:42 <HMage> yeah, but time can't kill your knowledge and experience 11:43:05 <Smoovious> I never cared about being famous or rich or anything, but making a career out of it was something I wanted to do a lot 11:43:17 <HMage> I see. 11:43:33 <Smoovious> no... that's all still there... its just a matter of getting my chops back... and having someone to keep challenging me 11:44:06 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 11:44:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:44:39 <HMage> Darkvater: invalid version of language packs. 11:44:48 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 11:44:52 <Smoovious> at least all the typing I do keeps my fingers limber... even if they aren't in quite the same way 11:45:42 <Smoovious> hey, will let ya get to yer testing... plows just came through... gotta dig out... 11:45:48 <Smoovious> catch ya later on, HMage 11:45:50 <HMage> yep, I found out that my computer-keyboard-trained fingers are quite flexible for guitar when my friend told me the basics. 11:45:55 * Smoovious touches the brim of his black hat to HMage 11:46:05 <HMage> :) 11:46:05 <HMage> Have fun :) 11:46:23 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:46:35 <Smoovious> oh yeah... sure... wet hard-packed snow when we're right at the freezing point... such fun... :D 11:46:44 <Darkvater> HMage: gah 11:47:05 <HMage> Smoovious: :P 11:47:18 <Darkvater> HMage: http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/english.lng 11:49:31 <HMage> Darkvater: so far so good 11:50:14 <Darkvater> are you serious? 11:50:15 <HMage> seems like those clicks are gone 11:50:17 <HMage> yep 11:50:23 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 11:50:24 * Darkvater looks at HMage 11:50:27 <Darkvater> I don't trust you 11:50:31 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp20-229.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:50:46 <HMage> I can record audio for you 11:50:53 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp20-229.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has left #openttd [] 11:50:55 <Darkvater> :) 11:51:01 <Darkvater> nah, that's ok, it was a joke 11:51:15 <HMage> I'm gonna test it using different configs to make sure 11:51:29 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp20-229.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:51:44 <HMage> openttd_4 -s dsound:hz=44100 - is that right way? 11:51:52 <Darkvater> yes 11:52:17 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp20-229.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [] 11:53:01 <HMage> hmm, it returned error: "Unable to load driver dsound(DirectSound Driver). The error was: DirectSound: SetVolume failed" when I launched with those parameters. 11:53:20 <Darkvater> it's actually primary->Play ;p 11:53:24 <HMage> try it yourself, might return the same 11:53:51 <HMage> can you look up which error exactly is returned? 11:54:45 <HMage> it's either buffer lost, invalid call, invalid param or priority level needed 11:55:10 <Darkvater> probably invalid call 11:55:27 <Darkvater> there are no secondary buffers present at that time, and priority level is set 11:55:56 <HMage> odd, when I set hz=11025 (which is default), same happens 11:56:27 <Darkvater> yes, just saw that 11:56:46 <HMage> aha, by default, if no sound driver is specified in command line, it tries dsound, and if it fails, will openttd try mme? 11:57:46 <Darkvater> yes 11:58:00 <HMage> I see 11:58:05 <Darkvater> hmm, dsound fails also if I don't pass anything 11:58:11 <Darkvater> let's see what the err is 11:58:50 <HMage> did you set DSBPLAY_LOOPING in Play() for primary buffer? 11:58:51 <Darkvater> HMage: do '-d driver=1' it'll give status report on driver polling 11:59:10 * Darkvater whistles 11:59:14 <Darkvater> E_INVALIDARG 11:59:27 <HMage> that's probably because DSBPLAY_LOOPING is not set 11:59:46 <HMage> quote from DirectX 9 Manual: "This flag must be set when playing a primary buffer." 12:00:23 <Darkvater> yeah, sorry about that ;p 12:00:34 <Darkvater> new binary... 12:00:49 <HMage> same url? 12:01:12 <Darkvater> well when it's finished yes 12:01:15 <Darkvater> will tell you 12:01:35 <HMage> ok 12:02:47 <Darkvater> ok, dne 12:02:49 <Darkvater> +o 12:03:20 <HMage> ok 12:03:23 * HMage goes to make some tea 12:11:14 *** |mike| [~kvirc@dynamic-unidsl-85-197-23-236.westend.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:11 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:52 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 12:19:34 <HMage> Darkvater: it still clicks. 12:20:58 <Darkvater> he 12:21:20 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 12:25:58 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 12:25:58 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:06 <Sacro|Laptop> anyone wht zombie-scan.oftc.net is, and WHY ITS TRYING TO ACCESS MY LAPTOP 12:29:10 <HMage> zombie-scan is probably a scanner that scans for any signs you're here not by your will :D 12:29:42 <HMage> quakenet uses same technique, if you have port 80 open, for example and it allows proxy requests, you're not allowed to connect quakenet 12:30:30 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm, well it checked http, telnet 12:30:42 <Sacro|Laptop> and t'other one, for samba 12:32:03 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:06 <HMage> I suspect that if your http, telnet and samba would reply with any reply that's known to be a virus, you'd be warned or maybe even kicked out of the net. 12:40:52 <Brianetta> Sacro, just firewall it off 12:47:21 <Sacro|Laptop> Brianetta: am doing, its the firewall that alerted me 12:51:50 *** Tino|R152 [~Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52:05 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 12:53:06 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 12:57:00 * Maedhros wonders which one of his housemates is using all our internet bandwidth 13:01:22 <Rubidium> just pull some network plugs 13:03:13 <Maedhros> heh, that'll probably work actually, since my main suspect is the only one not using wireless :) 13:26:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8913 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (26 files in 4 dirs): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: use BaseWindow accessors instead of accessing window size/position directly 13:31:13 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:31:18 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:33:52 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:14 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 13:44:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:44:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:50:05 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.227] has joined #openttd 13:55:48 *** SwordFish [~asd@84-50-236-142-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 13:56:16 <SwordFish> Can you ppl tell me how to use magic bulldozer? 13:56:44 <Smoovious> same as the regular bulldozer 13:56:52 <SwordFish> well.. how to get it working 13:56:58 <Smoovious> all magic bulldozer does, is also lets you blow up stuff you normally couldn'ty 13:57:03 <Smoovious> cheat setting 13:57:21 <SwordFish> im not familiar with cheating in this game. how do i get to cheat setting? 13:57:21 <Smoovious> just remember to turn it off when you're done... if you leave it on, when cities expand, they'll wipe out industries 13:58:01 <SwordFish> how do i get to those cheat settings? 13:58:18 <Smoovious> hang on, I'm thinking if I should just give it to you or make you earn it 13:58:22 <SwordFish> ok 13:58:28 <SwordFish> :D 13:58:44 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:02 <Smoovious> nope, sorry, gotta earn it... go check out http://wiki.openttd.org and look in the user manual for the cheat section 13:59:11 <SwordFish> ok :P 13:59:23 <Smoovious> np 13:59:34 <SwordFish> thanks 13:59:41 <Smoovious> (I think that's the URL for it anyways) 13:59:49 <SwordFish> Magic Bulldozer 13:59:49 <SwordFish> Allows you to destroy industries and other normally unmoveable objects such as lighthouses. 13:59:49 <SwordFish> Please be aware of, when leaving this option turned on, when a city grows towards a industry, it will eventually delete this industry! 14:00:00 <SwordFish> thats all about magic bulldozer . :( 14:00:17 <SwordFish> huh.. i think i got it :P ty 14:00:34 * Smoovious nods. 14:03:30 *** blathijs_ [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 14:03:33 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> arion.oftc.net quits: McHawk, @Darkvater, blathijs, +glx 14:03:49 *** glx|away is now known as glx 14:07:11 *** Netsplit over, joins: McHawk 14:08:00 *** Netsplit over, joins: Darkvater 14:08:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 14:08:00 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:01 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 14:08:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:09:13 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10:34 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:10:37 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:16:22 *** Maedhros [~jc@smtp.gentoo.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:38 *** Maedhros [~jc@smtp.gentoo.org] has joined #openttd 14:21:53 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:24:43 *** xyz [~ss@bas2-montreal02-1096603517.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 14:24:51 *** Klanticus [~chatzilla@201-68-15-216.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:32:02 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Have Fun ;D] 14:34:31 *** boekabart_ [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has quit [Quit: Back to work, back to work, everybody, work work work work!] 14:39:37 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5533.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:51 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387EBCF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:08:13 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 15:17:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8914 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_gui.cpp saveload.cpp): -Regression (UTF8): Win9x is very picky about trailing slashes in paths, so C:\* will not work (but C:\Windows\* does; go figure). Thanks glx for pointing it out and for the initial fix. 15:18:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB777B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:18:19 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB777B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8915 /branches/0.5/os/win32/installer/ (CDFinder.ini cdfinder.ini): [0.5] -Codechange: Renamed remotely 15:24:24 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:29:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8916 / (9 files in 2 dirs): [0.5] -Codechange (win32): Update the installer, add proper indentation, use MUI throughout and add a custom page about UNICODE and MSLU (remove some obsolete files) 15:51:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8917 /branches/0.5/os/win32/installer/install.nsi: [0.5] -Codechange (win32): Do not empty the data-path for the installer if you press the 'Back' button. 15:53:18 <Sacro|Laptop> http://web.malorny.de/trainz/images/switched-crossing.jpg that doesnt look safe 16:00:58 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36A91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:42 <Maedhros> what's wrong with it? 16:05:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8918 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_gui.cpp saveload.cpp): -Revert r8914 as the inverted files have been committed not the correct one. 16:05:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8919 /trunk/src/win32.cpp: -Regression (UTF8) (try #2): Win9x is very picky about trailing slashes in paths, so C:\* will not work (but C:\Windows\* does; go figure). Thanks glx for pointing it out and for the initial fix. 16:06:54 <Sacro|Laptop> Maedhros: i dont see how trains dont derail 16:07:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8920 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Do not require to press 'Apply changes' in the newgrf GUI if the changes in there are not activated (this happens in the title screen) 16:07:25 <Darkvater> *mess* 16:08:58 <Maedhros> Sacro|Laptop: in that picture they're just going in a straight line from top left to bottom right... 16:09:54 <Sacro|Laptop> yes but the line goes from bottom left to top left 16:11:31 <blove> you mean, if both switches were set to the "right side" there would simply be an angle in the track, not as soft bend? 16:12:11 <Sacro|Laptop> yes 16:12:23 <Sacro|Laptop> ooh its switched? 16:12:49 <Sacro|Laptop> but still... it looks unsafe 16:13:03 <blove> it's probably just one of those "don't do that" things. 16:16:49 <Sacro|Laptop> heh 16:18:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8921 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: (log message trimmed) 16:18:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (FS#654): several issues related to removing all orders from an aircraft and removing the airport it was heading: 16:18:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - the aircraft would go to (0, 0) and circle there. Clicking the 'eye' to jump to the aircraft in the main window could cause a segmentation fault. 16:18:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - when rebuilding an airport with the StationID of the old airport could crash 16:18:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: as the FTA state of the aircraft is higher than the number of states of the new 16:18:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: airport, causing a crash of all clients and the server when assertions are 16:18:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: enabled. 16:23:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8922 /branches/0.5/ (aircraft_cmd.c newgrf_gui.c video/cocoa_v.m win32.c): 16:23:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Backport from trunk (r8907, r8919, r8920, r8921): 16:23:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - [OSX] Reading from an unitialized variable (r8907) 16:23:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - [Win9x] FindFile with C:\* doesn't work, don't append a slash doubly (r8919) 16:23:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Do not require to press 'Apply changes' in the newgrf GUI if the changes in there are not activated (this happens in the title screen) (r8920) 16:23:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Possible crashes, problems with aircraft and airport removal (r8921) 16:26:29 *** mic [~chatzilla@213.141.137.47] has joined #openttd 16:29:13 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 16:29:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8923 /branches/0.5/ (changelog.txt docs/openttd.6 readme.txt): [0.5] -Prepare (again) 0.5 branch for release, update a few dates and changelog 16:36:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8924 /tags/0.5.0/ (6 files): -Release: 0.5.0 16:38:51 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3E671.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:45 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3FD02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8925 /website/includes/smarty.inc.php: [Website] -Update: Latest official version to 0.5.0 16:51:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8926 /trunk/ (19 files in 5 dirs): -Merge: Release changes from the 0.5 branch back to trunk. This ensures an updated changelog, readme, etc. 16:51:57 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:51:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:53:02 *** Darkvater changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.0 | Website: *.openttd.org (Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Bug-reports: bugs) 16:53:39 <orudge> And there we go 16:54:06 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 16:54:06 <Bjarni> !logs 16:54:29 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: late as usual... 16:55:17 * Bjarni slaps Sacro|Laptop 16:55:22 <izhirahider> are you releasing another RC? 16:55:34 <Bjarni> I was in the lab all day and just got home 16:55:45 <Bjarni> and then you blame me.... 16:55:47 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: ahh, did you find anything new out about yourself? 16:56:00 <Bjarni> like you ever do anything seriously 16:56:09 <Sacro|Laptop> course i do 16:56:36 <Bjarni> <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: ahh, did you find anything new out about yourself? <--- well, I'm not coded in ASM, so no :P 16:56:49 * Bjarni looked at hardware 16:56:56 * Sacro|Laptop makes OpenBjarni 16:56:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B836F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:19 <Bjarni> you can't 16:57:26 <Bjarni> I hold the copyright 16:57:52 <Sacro|Laptop> do? 16:57:54 <Sacro|Laptop> err. 16:57:55 <Sacro|Laptop> so? 16:59:29 <orudge> Tut tut. 17:00:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8299C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:00:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:04:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8927 /trunk/os/win32/installer/install.nsi: -Codechange: [win32] Update the installer to use the new paths after the makefilerewrite and add roadstops.grf to the uninstaller. 17:07:33 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 17:07:57 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:05 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 17:16:43 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Eat 17:18:06 <HMage> I didn't know that microsoft created vswprintf() that's different from posix vswprintf(). First takes three arguments, second takes four. 17:18:55 <HMage> and there is no vsnwprintf() in posix, since vswprintf() already has size argument 17:19:03 <HMage> microsoft vswprintf() doesn't have size argument 17:19:26 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:49 <Bjarni> MS likes to be different and then they claim everybody else are different 17:21:36 *** KUDr|wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 17:22:37 <HMage> And Apple claims they are different :D 17:23:31 *** eQualize1 [~lauri@dyn15-55.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:23:36 *** TheMask97 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:24:09 *** A1win^ [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 17:24:12 *** blove_ [~blove@enedwaith.kylimar.com] has joined #openttd 17:24:14 *** Naksu_ [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has joined #openttd 17:24:23 *** izhirahi1er [~izhirahid@squareroot.divisionbyzero.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:23 *** Brianetta_again [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:24:33 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm, Brianetta_again 17:24:36 <HMage> Same story with swprintf(), it has same arguments as microsoft snwprintf() 17:27:29 *** Netsplit osmotic.oftc.net <-> xenon.oftc.net quits: A1win, eQualizer, KUDr_wrk, PandaMojo, Naksu, Brianetta, TheMask96, blove, izhirahider, SwordFish, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:29:45 *** izhirahi1er is now known as izhirahider 17:30:48 *** blove_ is now known as blove 17:31:53 *** Klanticus [~chatzilla@201-68-15-216.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]] 17:35:57 *** Netsplit over, joins: Belugas 17:36:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:36:12 *** Netsplit over, joins: dfox 17:38:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:41:20 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 17:42:11 <Desolator> Yo people 17:44:10 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-187-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:45:24 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-193-166.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:45:34 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-193-166.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 17:45:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host66-239-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:46:06 <Wolf01> hi 17:46:29 <Desolator> hi 17:46:40 <xyz> hi 17:48:11 <Sacro|Laptop> hi 17:49:24 *** TinoDidri is now known as Jezral 17:55:08 *** blove [~blove@enedwaith.kylimar.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55:22 *** blove [~blove@enedwaith.kylimar.com] has joined #openttd 17:56:18 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:56:20 *** mic [~chatzilla@213.141.137.47] has left #openttd [] 17:56:33 *** michi_cc-away is now known as michi_cc 17:58:47 *** Sacro|Laptop is now known as Sacro 18:02:50 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Sea 18:13:24 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:47 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:23:32 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 18:32:31 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:33:03 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:49 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE71.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:00 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-187-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 18:41:46 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp91-76-146-165.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:47:44 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has left #openttd [] 18:56:08 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:27 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.35] has joined #openttd 18:57:25 <UnderBuilder> hi 19:01:35 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 19:01:55 <UnderBuilder> so the rumour that peter1138 has got an internal test of newcargos is true? 19:04:55 <Sacro> he's had one going for ages 19:06:22 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5351CE71.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:07:57 * UnderBuilder enters peter1138's pc and takes it >:) 19:09:40 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 19:13:26 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE71.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:50 <UnderBuilder> just got some troubles with not finding the correct path for placing the ttd data files in my linux ottd but I solved it reading the faqs (I was searching for /usr/share/openttd while it was /usr/share/games/openttd) 19:14:15 <michi_cc> Darkvater: should 0.5.0 be packaged together with the scenarios? 19:17:52 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:19:55 <UnderBuilder> now it works but without sound and/or music (I copied the sample.cat and the gm files) 19:20:26 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 19:20:53 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:26:20 <UnderBuilder> some small trouble with the menus: the item 'terrain type' appears twice, one in difficulty and another in the map generation gui 19:26:46 <UnderBuilder> same with sea level 19:34:29 <UnderBuilder> also some patches can be moved from the patches window to the difficulty / options ones 19:36:52 <UnderBuilder> and a suggestion: is possible to code a patch that allows you to join / create a company if you are a spectator? 19:39:43 <Wolf01> http://thrillingwonder.blogspot.com/2007/02/wwii-nazis-tank-manuals-unexpectedly.html OMGLOLROFL 19:39:58 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489ED17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40:18 *** Brianetta_again is now known as Brianetta 19:40:46 <Brianetta> -NickServ(services@services.oftc.net)- Unknown command iduntify. "/msg NickServ HELP" for help. 19:40:55 <Brianetta> I-dunce-ify 19:46:47 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:47:18 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [] 19:48:27 <UnderBuilder> a question: currently the ai in multiplayer works? 19:49:50 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176124242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:55:20 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:01:35 <moe> lool http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=393827725&size=o 20:03:26 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has left #openttd [] 20:05:35 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36A91.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:09:47 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has left #openttd [] 20:10:02 *** kdr [materi@h-85-24-203-79.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:50 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 20:12:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:13:12 *** blathijs_ is now known as blathijs 20:13:57 *** kdr [materi@h-85-24-203-79.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:17:29 <Digitalfox> I want to a make a change in openttd wiki, and since it's a little big, i would like to talk to some admin or moderator of the wiki, so i can give my idea and discuss it.. Who are the ones that manage the wiki?? I Know Born_Acorn is one of them, but hes always Away in IRC at lest in the time i spend here.. 20:19:07 <izhirahider> Digitalfox, what are you planning to change? :) 20:20:23 *** xyz [~ss@bas2-montreal02-1096603517.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [] 20:20:51 <Digitalfox> izhirahider: It's not nothing of the other world, but since 0.5 has been release ( at least almost ) i want to update the roadmap part, removing 0.5 from it and Add a new "New Features Since 0.5.0", also to discuss what to do with 0.7.. 20:21:44 <izhirahider> Digitalfox, put portuguese town names on that roadmap :) 20:21:47 <Maedhros> the roadmaps are pretty much pointless 20:21:59 <izhirahider> It's almost done 20:22:00 <Maedhros> we generally don't know what we're going to do until we've started doing it 20:22:26 <Digitalfox> Maedhros: Well maybe for dev's and people like me , witch know what's happening, but a lot of people don't follow the development.. 20:24:24 <Rubidium> Digitalfox: the problem is that the devs do not even know what will actually be in 0.6, not to mention 0.7, 0.8 or even 1.0 20:24:57 <Rubidium> there are some projects running at the moment, but some of them are most likely not going to make 0.6 20:25:24 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: Ok, but what is in the roadmap is just what's happening now in trunk or branches.. Maybe roadmap isn't the best name, but... 20:25:41 <izhirahider> It's more like "Captain's Log" :) 20:26:13 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5351CE71.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 20:26:48 <Darkvater> michi_cc: we're still waiting a bit on what scenarios/heightmaps to include 20:26:51 <Digitalfox> I just think it's nice people know what's happening with openttd development, without having to look at SVN log.. :) 20:26:52 <Darkvater> but bbs 20:26:55 <izhirahider> "Captain's Log, star date 8927: Codechange: [win32] Update the installer to use the new... " 20:26:58 <Rubidium> some of the thing in the roadmap haven't even really begun at this moment 20:27:55 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 20:31:39 <michi_cc> Darkvater: okay. got everything else ready 20:34:47 <michi_cc> Darkvater: got another thing. looks like I didn't really compile trunk myself for some time :), as I haven't noticed till now that it's broken for win64 probably since cpp merge 20:35:05 <michi_cc> Darkvater: proposed fix http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/win64_rdtsc.patch 20:42:28 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:12 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:45:28 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:23 *** llugo [~lugo@pD9583F33.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:32 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:34 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@84-72-112-171.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 20:50:01 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:50:02 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@84-72-112-171.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 20:52:47 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.35] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050922]] 20:53:51 <Darkvater> michi_cc: what's wrong with using extern "C" on the whole thing without ifdef? 20:55:09 <michi_cc> Darkvater: sure, why not? as long as you don't forget to check all the various implementations 20:56:13 <Darkvater> michi_cc: it only needs to be done for _rdtsc I think 20:56:24 <Darkvater> but why doesn't it work for x64? 20:56:52 <Darkvater> can't win64.asm make cpp function? 20:56:58 <michi_cc> the asm file specifies the normal name, but c++ does name mangeling 20:57:08 <Darkvater> can't win64.asm make cpp function? 20:57:18 <Darkvater> eg 'compile as C++' or something? 20:57:18 <michi_cc> it can, but name mangeling is dependent on the compiler 20:57:43 <michi_cc> and the mangeld name has to be explicitely stated 20:57:51 <Darkvater> hmm 20:58:05 <KUDr> C++ compiler can find asm function when this function is declared as extern "C" 20:58:18 <KUDr> then it is not mangled 20:58:23 <Darkvater> KUDr: but it can't find C++ asm function? 20:58:32 <michi_cc> there are no c++ asm functions 20:58:36 <KUDr> what is C++ asm function? 20:58:40 <michi_cc> there are just functions 20:58:41 <Darkvater> no idea :) 20:59:04 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:59:25 <Darkvater> then _rdtsc should probably be extern "C"-d 20:59:25 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 20:59:30 <Darkvater> if there's no other solution 20:59:31 <KUDr> yes 20:59:51 <KUDr> why other solution? 21:00:04 <Darkvater> http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/win64_rdtsc.patch << this solution is not acceptable 21:00:05 <michi_cc> just don't forget all those different implementations 21:00:13 <KUDr> for MSVC you can use _rdtsc intristic 21:00:29 <michi_cc> for MSVC 2005 at least, dunno about others 21:00:34 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:53 <michi_cc> but the asm file still can't go, there's another function in it 21:01:25 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage] 21:02:38 <KUDr> hmm, why is + extern "C" uint64 _rdtsc(void);\ 21:02:43 <KUDr> twice there? 21:02:54 <KUDr> it differs only by this "C" 21:03:01 <KUDr> so make it always "C" 21:03:14 <KUDr> it makes no sense to be "C++" 21:06:21 <Darkvater> that's what I was proposing but donnu what michi_cc is saying 21:06:46 <michi_cc> wait a second, I'm preparing an alternate solution 21:09:17 <peter1138> dunno donnu 21:12:11 <Darkvater> michi_cc: I extern'd "C" the whole os_timer.cpp and the only 2 (extern) calls to it from outside 21:12:39 <michi_cc> Darkvater: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/win64_rdtsc_2.patch 21:13:11 <michi_cc> will work as long as only vs2005 is used to compile win64. no probleme as there's no other compiler anyway :) 21:14:04 <michi_cc> should gcc ever decide to support win64, it will just have to provide an appropriate instrinsic function 21:14:50 <michi_cc> fixed another bug with extern "C" as well, which I missed earlier 21:14:56 <Darkvater> getsaveesp? 21:15:22 <michi_cc> yeah 21:15:34 <michi_cc> it's not compiled in by default, that's why i missed it 21:15:53 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/rdtsc_win64.diff 21:15:55 <Darkvater> can you try this one? 21:16:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:16:45 <Darkvater> hmm 21:16:47 <michi_cc> won't work, as I just found out. TIC is used inside function bodies, isn't it? 21:17:04 <Darkvater> yes, gcc doesn't like it 21:17:09 <michi_cc> vs2005 doesn't support extern "C" inside function bodies 21:18:07 <michi_cc> I'd say, use my second patch. can't get more simple than that. should there ever be another compiler for win64, we'll deal with it when it happens 21:19:45 <Darkvater> well, I'll go with whichever KUDr says is best ;) 21:20:06 <KUDr> intrinsics are faster (no call is made) 21:20:13 <KUDr> and simpler 21:20:31 <KUDr> so for VC8 i would prefer that 21:20:39 <Darkvater> hmm waaait 21:20:56 <Darkvater> would VS2003 still work? 21:21:01 <KUDr> no 21:21:17 <KUDr> VC7.1 doesn't support 64 21:21:39 <Darkvater> ok but it works for x32? 21:21:47 <michi_cc> if you look at my patch, you'll see a if _MSC_VER >= 1400, which is vs8 21:22:02 <KUDr> VC7.1 can use __asm {rdtsc;} 21:22:44 <KUDr> [22:21:38] <Darkvater> ok but it works for x32? << yes, with VC8 21:23:35 <michi_cc> KUDr: should work for all vs, right?: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/win64_rdtsc_2.patch 21:24:15 <KUDr> michi_cc: i am not sure, look at docs 21:24:31 <KUDr> if VC 7.1 has that intrinsic 21:25:22 <michi_cc> i made it to use inline assembly for vs7.1 and below and intrinsic from vs8 on 21:25:45 <michi_cc> so now we would have a separation on compiler and not on target architecture 21:26:08 <KUDr> sounds good 21:34:30 <michi_cc> Darkvater: your verdict? 21:35:02 <Darkvater> < KUDr> sounds good 21:35:04 <Darkvater> :) 21:35:06 <Darkvater> michi_cc: ping 21:35:10 <Darkvater> I mean pm 21:36:33 <Darkvater> michi_cc: do you see my wave? 21:37:06 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387EBCF.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:37:15 <michi_cc> Darkvater: no, something seems broken, I can hear xchat ping, but I get no message 21:37:53 <Darkvater> .. 21:38:00 <michi_cc> let me reconnect 21:38:01 <Darkvater> why would anyone use xchat? brr 21:39:10 *** michi_cc_ [michi_cc@p57A2D508.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:39:10 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:24 *** michi_cc [90aed1f9db@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 21:39:28 *** michi_cc_ is now known as michi_cc 21:39:54 *** Twofish [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 21:40:06 <michi_cc> Darkvater: can you try again? 21:40:14 <Darkvater> did 21:40:37 <Darkvater> michi_cc: join #blaaat 21:40:49 <Darkvater> eh 21:40:52 <Darkvater> michi_cc: join #blaat 21:40:53 <Darkvater> ;p 21:41:02 <mikk36> woot 21:41:04 <mikk36> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17303991/ 21:41:15 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:41:18 <mikk36> i wonder how many mexicans we could fit there :P 21:41:50 <Wolf01> 'night 21:41:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host66-239-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:44:55 <Tefad> sorry, i don't understand where i put custom CFLAGS for ottd source 21:45:02 <Tefad> where do i? 21:46:13 <Maedhros> do you really need to? 21:46:47 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:19 *** michi_cc [michi_cc@p57A2D508.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Und weg...] 21:47:33 *** michi_cc [7e9d35af22@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 21:47:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 21:51:52 <michi_cc> Darkvater: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/openttd-0.5.0-win64.zip MD5: 0810c1440a434ae3ff10a70e4e49ca24 21:52:50 <Darkvater> thx 22:03:29 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 22:04:12 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 22:04:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r8928 / (94 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed) 22:04:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [MiniIN] -Sync with v0.5.0. -- The Final Commit -- 22:04:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: "This is the end, my beautiful friend, the end. .. Of our elaborate plans, the end. Of everything that works, the end. No bugfix or updates, the end." 22:04:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Apologies to all The Doors fans. 22:04:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: MiniIN was intended to have a few small patches, and really just be a little 22:04:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: stopgap until patches were available in trunk. It grew a bit :) Many many thanks 22:04:25 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 22:04:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: to all the patch authors, the players, and most of all Rubidium and glx for 22:05:07 <RichK67_> :) 22:05:17 <izhirahider> ? 22:05:39 <Digitalfox> Now is time for MiniIN2 to be born :) 22:05:47 <RichK67_> not my job ;) 22:06:10 <Digitalfox> Yeah, quark is on it, for what i read in the forums 22:06:35 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:07:07 <RichK67_> needs to be managed in an SVN really... its *very* hard to stay in sync otherwise 22:07:24 <RichK67_> before i took MiniIN into SVN, the patch file was a cool 532kb 22:08:20 <peter1138> nini 22:08:41 <Darkvater> nini peter1138 22:11:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8929 /trunk/os/win32/installer/install.nsi: -Codechange: [win32] Give the installer a slightly more verbose link at the final screen and also copy any heightmaps to the desination directory. 22:11:16 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 22:13:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8930 /branches/0.5/os/win32/installer/install.nsi: 22:13:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Backport from trunk (r8929): 22:13:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - [win32] Installer update (r8929) 22:14:53 *** Sacro|Laptop [Ben@83.100.188.215] has joined #openttd 22:15:03 <Desolator> Hello people 22:18:14 *** ln-_ is now known as ln- 22:19:26 <glx> [23:06:17] <Digitalfox> Yeah, quark is on it, for what i read in the forums <-- but I think he uses the wrong way 22:19:39 <glx> he wants to sync current miniIN with trunk 22:20:15 <Digitalfox> Yeah, i guess using trunk code, and tehn iserting patches would be better 22:20:31 <glx> yep less work 22:20:52 <glx> but of course most patches are not up to date with trunk 22:22:00 <RichK67_> its an awful lot of work... if he needs the last lot of patches that i committed in, i have a .zip with them 22:22:34 <Digitalfox> Well, first he should do a selection of what patches still are important or needed for MiniIN users, then ask the dev's of eact patch if they still will update them, then for what he gets use them, not doing all the work himself.. 22:22:58 <RichK67_> yeah, but there is no PBS patch as such 22:23:42 <RichK67_> maybe it would be less work to try to resync it with trunk, but good luck to him 22:23:52 <Rubidium> and there are a lot of patch integration issues, i.e. two patches applied to the same codebase could be very buggy 22:24:12 <RichK67_> yup... bailed at the right time ;) 22:26:03 <Rubidium> and ofcourse the 3 major reworks in trunk will be troublesome for syncing big 'patches' like MiniIN 22:27:02 *** piotrekk [~piotrekk@66-pra-4.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 22:27:23 <RichK67_> yeah... best approach would be to forget pbs, and start from a fresh trunk 22:27:26 <piotrekk> hi 22:27:47 <piotrekk> brianetta 22:28:01 <piotrekk> need your help 22:28:14 <Sacro|Laptop> err... 22:28:20 <Sacro|Laptop> i dunno where Brianetta is 22:28:20 *** weirdy [~Oliver@client-82-13-22-185.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:28:25 <Sacro|Laptop> oh god, its him 22:28:37 <weirdy> aaahahahahaha 22:28:56 <weirdy> anyone here help? 22:28:58 <piotrekk> need help with autopilot 22:29:21 <piotrekk> look for last page brianneta's topic (autopilot) 22:30:45 <piotrekk> any body help me? 22:32:38 <Rubidium> piotrekk: I think you are using a too old expect or tcl 22:32:50 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has quit [] 22:32:54 <piotrekk> hmm 22:33:49 <piotrekk> i using new tcl and expect. I have linux ubuntu 6.12 (and i install tcl and expect from apt-get (synaptic)) 22:34:25 <Rubidium> there are (probably) two tcl versions in the repository 22:34:36 <Rubidium> tcl8.3 and tcl8.4 22:35:09 <piotrekk> its new? 22:36:18 <piotrekk> i habe 8.0, 8.3 and 8.4 22:36:22 <piotrekk> have* 22:37:18 <Rubidium> what kind of error does it give? 22:38:19 <piotrekk> hmm 22:38:25 <piotrekk> wait i download 22:38:32 <piotrekk> expect 22:38:37 <piotrekk> new 22:39:22 *** Sacro|Laptop [Ben@83.100.188.215] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:43 <RichK67_> gn 22:39:45 <Rubidium> weirdy: without a question you won't get an answer 22:39:45 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67_] 22:40:03 <piotrekk> wait must download autopilot, what version i must using? 22:40:12 <piotrekk> new 2.0.4? 22:40:26 <piotrekk> sorry for my english 22:40:29 <piotrekk> but im from poland 22:40:45 <Rubidium> latest is probably the best 22:40:59 <weirdy> you what, Rubidium? 22:41:11 <piotrekk> but with latest have error ;/ 22:41:25 <weirdy> >_> 22:41:26 *** weirdy [~Oliver@client-82-13-22-185.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:43:33 <Brianetta> piotrekk: There's an SVN server 22:43:41 <Brianetta> That's the most recent version of autopilot 22:43:52 <piotrekk> SVN server? 22:43:59 <piotrekk> what is it :D 22:44:03 <piotrekk> sorry but im new 22:44:08 <piotrekk> on linux and openttd 22:44:31 <piotrekk> yea! 22:44:36 <piotrekk> server UP :) 22:45:08 <piotrekk> but version 22:45:33 <piotrekk> 1.3 22:46:21 <piotrekk> how to open server? 22:46:28 <piotrekk> 1. expect 22:46:39 <piotrekk> 2. expect autopilot 22:46:40 <piotrekk> ?? 22:47:13 <piotrekk> if 22:47:22 <piotrekk> ./autopilot 22:47:22 <piotrekk> ? 22:47:50 <Tefad> Maedhros: i'd just like to pass it -march=pentium4 that's all 22:48:02 <Tefad> i'm not extreme about cflags . . 22:48:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8931 /branches/cpp_gui/ (29 files in 5 dirs): 22:48:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [cpp_gui] -Add: first OO widget type (TextButton) added only with basic functionality 22:48:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add: new gui events (C++) 22:48:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add: dynamic event handlers introduced (see Widget::AddReflectHandlerT) 22:48:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add: test window using the new features (intro_gui.cpp) 22:48:41 <Rubidium> Tefad: what version do you want to pass the CFLAGS to? 22:48:50 <Tefad> i have svn. 22:49:01 <Tefad> i help find bugs every now and then : ) 22:49:07 <Rubidium> ./configure CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 22:49:20 <Tefad> ah, i forgot about ./configure 22:49:20 <Tefad> thanks 22:49:35 <Tefad> the build system openttd uses is really wacky : ) 22:49:50 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5533.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:17 <piotrekk> i can open new openttd 22:50:27 <piotrekk> cant 22:50:28 <piotrekk> couldn't load file "/usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so" target="_blank">libexpect5.43.so.1": /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so" target="_blank">libexpect5.43.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 22:50:44 <piotrekk> i have new expect ;/ 22:51:24 <piotrekk> while executing 22:51:24 <piotrekk> "load /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so.1" 22:51:24 <piotrekk> ("package ifneeded" script) 22:51:24 <piotrekk> invoked from within 22:51:24 <piotrekk> "package require Expect" 22:51:26 <piotrekk> (file "./autopilot.tcl" line 20) 22:51:48 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176124242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:54:28 <piotrekk> ? 22:58:43 <Digitalfox> Isn't there a way of removing this?? http://www.tt-forums.net/files/tonninghall_transport_23rd_sep_2004_1_624_170.png 22:59:28 <Tefad> wtf mate 22:59:30 <Rubidium> what do you mean with 'this' ? 22:59:35 <Bjarni> Digitalfox: yeah, that black figure really messes up the image :P 22:59:39 <Tefad> i think he means the grass 22:59:44 <michi_cc> Darkvater: any decision about that extern "C" thingy? 22:59:47 <Bjarni> you could decide not to use photoshop on it :P 22:59:50 <Rubidium> but the square or the triangle 22:59:56 <Tefad> both 22:59:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8932 /branches/cpp_gui/src/widget/widget.h: [cpp_gui] -Fix(r8931): forward enum declaration doesn't work for g++ 23:00:00 <piotrekk> look for my error need help please 23:00:21 <piotrekk> i have expect 5.43 ;/ 23:00:24 <Digitalfox> I just made that in paint, ... :| Anyway, isn't a way of removing the grass? 23:00:31 <Darkvater> michi_cc: ah, yes the 2nd is good. 23:00:39 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:00:40 <Darkvater> KUDr: could you commit that rdtsc thing? 23:00:42 <Bjarni> piotrekk: I looked at it but is somewhat clueless on what to say about it :s 23:00:46 <Rubidium> but why do you have problems with the grass? 23:00:47 * Darkvater is still busy with the 0.5.0 release 23:01:04 <piotrekk> autopilot 1.3 running no problem but 2.0.4 error not found libs expect 23:01:26 <KUDr> Darkvater: what url? 23:01:27 <Tefad> it's not like the planes will run over the area covered by grass if you convert it to tarmac 23:01:30 <michi_cc> KUDr: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/win64_rdtsc_2.patch 23:01:34 <KUDr> ok 23:01:35 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: It doesn't look good... 23:01:50 * Rubidium likes http://www.tt-forums.net/files/schiphol3_177.png more though :) 23:01:56 <Tefad> maybe replace the square with another triangle 23:02:11 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: I undertsand it must be a limit hardcoded in code, but no simple solution? 23:02:14 <Rubidium> or is your problem the different 'color' green? 23:02:17 <Tefad> man these are some crazy airports 23:02:47 <Rubidium> Tefad: not crazy, just based on real airports 23:02:53 <Tefad> right 23:02:59 <Tefad> amsterdam airport is crazy. 23:03:04 <Bjarni> it actually makes sense 23:03:27 <Bjarni> it has two runways to use nomatter what direction the wind is in 23:03:31 <piotrekk> ?? 23:03:31 <Rubidium> it is, it takes 30 minutes taxiing to go from the terminal to the northern runway 23:03:52 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: That screenshot from RichK67 is great, but what about the airports already in 0.5.0 or trunk no way of removing the grass all make it look better :) 23:04:15 <Tefad> Rubidium: in real life or in the game.. 23:04:24 <Rubidium> in real life 23:04:32 <Tefad> weird. 23:04:42 <piotrekk> where i get this lib? 23:04:44 <Tefad> i bet that's where all the short flights go 23:05:03 <piotrekk> i have installed expect, i dont know why i not have libs :/ 23:05:08 <Rubidium> Tefad: don't know 23:05:27 <piotrekk> i must restart computer? 23:05:32 <Tefad> no 23:05:35 <Tefad> run ldconfig as root 23:06:07 <piotrekk> nothink 23:06:09 <piotrekk> couldn't load file "/usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so" target="_blank">libexpect5.43.so.1": /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so" target="_blank">libexpect5.43.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 23:06:10 <piotrekk> while executing 23:06:10 <piotrekk> "load /usr/lib/libexpect5.43.so.1" 23:06:10 <piotrekk> ("package ifneeded" script) 23:06:10 <piotrekk> invoked from within 23:06:10 <Tefad> that should have the same effect as rebooting 23:06:11 <piotrekk> "package require Expect" 23:06:13 <piotrekk> (file "./autopilot.tcl" line 20) 23:06:29 <piotrekk> i have expect ;/ 23:06:52 <Tefad> it's not the wone it wants 23:06:55 <Tefad> one 23:07:01 <Tefad> or something. 23:07:08 <Tefad> have you recompiled ottd? 23:07:09 <Rubidium> what does 'ls -l /usr/lib/libexpect*' give you? 23:08:04 <piotrekk> ls: /usr/lib/libexpect: No such file or directory 23:08:32 <piotrekk> how get libs ;/ 23:08:41 <piotrekk> lol why i have expect but no libs? 23:09:52 <Tefad> perhaps you installed it to /usr/local 23:09:58 <Tefad> in that case, you did it wrong ; ) 23:11:11 <piotrekk> i installed with synaptic 23:12:05 <Tefad> nooo idea. 23:12:15 <piotrekk> hmm 23:12:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8933 /trunk/src/ (os_timer.cpp win32.cpp win64.asm): -Fix [Win64]: rdtsc now uses intrinsic on VC8 (michi_cc) 23:14:07 *** piotrekk [~piotrekk@66-pra-4.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:46 *** Wolfenst1ijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8934 /branches/32bpp/src/ (6 files): [32bpp] -Fix: compile errors when not compiling with freetype. 23:31:36 *** michi_cc is now known as michi_cc-away 23:33:48 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-141-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:36:29 <Darkvater> Brianetta: he, sorry 23:36:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8935 /trunk/ (12 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: unification of track type between road and rail tiles, unification of ground type between normal rail tiles and depots/waypoints and removing the need for RailTileSubType. 23:36:47 <Darkvater> Brianetta: I was planning to add one ormore of your maps but it slipped my mind in the end :( 23:40:28 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:58 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:42:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8936 /branches/cpp_gui/src/video/cocoa_v.mm: [cpp_gui] -Fix r8803: change of Point broke compilation of cocoa_v.mm 23:49:49 <Brianetta> Darkvater: S'no problem 23:49:57 <Brianetta> They're available to any who want them 23:50:19 <Darkvater> but! 23:50:27 <Darkvater> :s 23:50:53 <Darkvater> this release is just too much work to keep everything in your head 23:53:42 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 23:54:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8937 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (window.cpp window.h): [cpp_gui] -Fix(r8931): the global map of Window Factories needs to be constructed on the fly. Otherwise it is not sure that it will be constructed before first WindowFactory. (Bjarni)