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00:04:28 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 00:06:02 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 00:10:15 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac56f8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:21 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-207-199.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:18:12 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-29.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:27:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r9242 /3rdparty/squirrel/include/squirrel.h: [Squirrel] -Add: added scvprintf, defined as vwprintf or vprintf depending on _UNICODE 00:33:39 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb7d5c.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> hmmzz... i might have found an autoreplace bug... trying to confirm in trunk 00:37:42 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0520.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:42:48 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0672.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 00:46:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/684 if bjarni ever shows up... 00:56:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9243 /trunk/src/table/build_industry.h: -Fix (r9162,FS#683): One too many table rows caused cargo acceptance mixup. 00:57:50 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: *way* too many commas :p 00:58:13 <peter1138> i suppose bjarni needs them to understand... 00:59:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's exactly how i would place them in german, i can't help that fact 00:59:45 <peter1138> ahhh, bjarni code 00:59:50 <peter1138> bool stopped = !(v->vehstatus & VS_STOPPED); 00:59:52 <peter1138> if (stopped) { 01:00:00 <peter1138> v->vehstatus |= VS_STOPPED; // Stop the vehicle 01:00:07 <peter1138> stopped when it's not stopped? 01:00:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, i assume that's because engines set to "service" should also replace 01:00:45 <peter1138> different function 01:00:53 <peter1138> but, "expect, that"? 01:00:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> but that should only apply to the trains entering the depot 01:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, in german, you always put a comma before "daß/dass" 01:02:14 <peter1138> weird 01:02:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> between any two finite verb forms there must be a comma somewhere... in that case, the finite verb forms are "expect" and "fail" 01:03:31 <peter1138> "fails, because" is spurious too 01:03:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> the next finite verb form is "is" 01:03:53 <peter1138> otoh, i'd use "should fail" not "fails" 01:04:07 <peter1138> but i'm only english :p 01:05:13 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 01:05:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r9244 /branches/newhouses/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [newhouses]-Codechange: Uses the BuildingFlags enum instead of magical numbers 01:06:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> basically, the commas are where they are, because "autoreplace [...] fails" could as well be a standalone sentence 01:06:14 <Belugas> damsn... too many commit files... 01:06:24 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-84-226-124-197.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r9245 /branches/noai/src/ (squirrel.cpp squirrel.hpp squirrel_helper.cpp): [NoAI] -Fix: allow compilation with _UNICODE 01:06:42 <peter1138> yes 01:07:14 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0672.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:07:35 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: german is silly then 01:07:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> and german grammar requires, that such "minor sentences" be enclosed in commas 01:07:58 <peter1138> it's all about context 01:08:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> (with an exception about "and") 01:08:26 <peter1138> and there shouldn't be a comma at "are, because" either ;p 01:08:35 <peter1138> one day you will learn 01:08:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, i will definitely not ;) 01:08:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r9246 /branches/newhouses/projects/openttd_vs80.vcproj: [newhouses]-Fix(9244): Too many files, one that was wrong 01:09:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, there's one missing: "are, where" 01:09:57 <Belugas> thanks, peter1138, for r9243 01:10:23 <peter1138> you better be, took an hour to find that 01:11:25 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: now that would just be silly 01:11:33 <Belugas> that much? sorry :( 01:11:44 <peter1138> now, that would, just be, silly 01:11:45 <peter1138> maybe 01:11:54 <peter1138> Belugas :) 01:12:35 * Belugas feels a bit better 01:12:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> fine. next time, i will write an entire paragraph without any interpunctuation at all :p 01:13:10 <Mortomes> And let's not bother with capitalization either. :) 01:13:42 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0772.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 01:14:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> Mortomes: says the only person to actually capitalize a word... 01:14:17 <Mortomes> I like capitalization! :( 01:14:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... -ise. 01:14:40 <peter1138> let's not get on to ize/ise... 01:14:42 <peter1138> damn 01:14:49 * Mortomes grins. 01:15:00 <Mortomes> Aluminium! 01:21:43 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-84-226-124-197.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 01:37:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, is it possible that electric trains can go over unelectrified level crossings? (might be miniin problem) 01:43:08 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-84-226-124-197.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 01:43:08 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-84-226-124-197.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:30 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-84-226-124-197.adslplus.ch] has quit [] 01:51:38 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@87.102.80.216] has joined #openttd 01:54:50 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:25 <Smoovious> <Rubidium> _textmsg_box = {10, 30, 512, 330} <- those 'magic' numbers should relate to MAX_TEXT_MESSAGES and MAX_TEXTMESSAGE_LENGTH <--- I'm not sure how/where to figure out the rendered lengh of a line of text to relate to MAX_TEXTMESSAGE_LENGTH... unless I'm reading it wrong, and that is already in pixels, and not chars like I've been thinking 01:59:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b81608.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:02:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b849e1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:02:01 *** mode/#openttd 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16:30:20 <Smoovious> yeah 16:30:57 <hylje> it can't convert the vehicles on the fly 16:31:12 <Smoovious> open a new viewport at the top corner of the map... and scroll the main window to the bottom corner of the map... on the monorail construction menu, pick the track-conversion icon... point to the top corner, and drag to the bottom corner, and release 16:31:20 <Smoovious> you're on your own with rolling stock tho 16:31:51 <BlinK_> so thats the problem.. it cant convert depots with old trains inside.. 16:32:38 <Smoovious> so make a new depot next to it... make a new train, copy the orders from the old train, start the new train, delete the old one... lather, rinse, repeat 16:32:48 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:32:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 16:32:51 <BlinK_> ahh 16:33:08 <BlinK_> ok, will try that then 16:33:30 <BlinK_> it is still better than replace every track in original TTD, but it was fun too.. (: 16:33:46 <Smoovious> you're going to have to do a lot of work no matter what... should probably be required to do more work than ya have to now... upgrading an entire network is supposed to be a big job... not a drag/drop operation 16:41:09 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54a3e88d.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:40 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F1D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:40 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:48:05 * Smoovious growls. 16:48:14 <Smoovious> I can't figure out why things are locking up now 16:50:23 *** Renacor [~kvirc@p54B9F593.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:18 *** Renacor [~kvirc@p54B9F01C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:25 <antichaos> oh man...I've just had one of those moments where you're looking at some code that was a massive ordeal a few months ago, and you suddenly realise there is a much easier way to do the same thing. 16:52:56 <antichaos> could have saved myself weeks :'-( 17:00:09 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 17:02:03 * Smoovious has gotta figure out how the debugger works. 17:03:19 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:03:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9255 /branches/noai/ (18 files in 7 dirs): 17:03:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: each AI now runs in a seperate thread. The main thread is suspended if any AI thread is running, only one AI thread runs at the time. 17:03:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Note: the threading is pretty poor right now, with slow CSleep(1) in them. Code is required to make this better, but it is a start. 17:03:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change: entry point in AI is now Start(). If you return from that, your AI dies. 17:03:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change: if you now run a DoCommand, you won't get a result till one tick later, or worse in MP. 17:15:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> antichaos: look it at this way: if you never spent these weeks, you'd never have realized it could be done better... 17:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> the first solution is never right 17:15:48 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-162-182.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:15:52 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-162-182.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 17:17:50 <antichaos> I guess 17:17:52 <Smoovious> I dunno... before I tried incorporating Rubidium's suggestions last night, my patch ran... now it just locks the game up tight on the first day... :( 17:18:08 <Smoovious> still trying to figure out what part is doing it 17:29:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9256 /branches/noai/src/ai/ai_factory.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: use initializer values, as they are good for doing what they say: initializing 17:30:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host48-235-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:31:04 <Wolf01> hello 17:31:24 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 17:32:57 <Smoovious> hi 17:40:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9257 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Codechange: Use cargo's town effect property for determining subsidy source/target type. 17:44:24 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Eat 17:45:44 <Smoovious> hahaha! finally found it... forgot a [0] somewhere :D 17:54:02 <hylje> :o 17:54:24 * Smoovious chuckles. 17:55:21 <Smoovious> one advantage interpreted languages has over compiled languages... being able to trace it as it runs... probably would help if I knew how to use the debugger :D but I found it. :) 17:59:55 <Rubidium> hmm, C/C++ has just been classified as interpreted language by Smoovious :) 18:02:16 <Smoovious> no it hasn't. :P 18:03:31 <Smoovious> I have yet to be able to step through the code, and follow it as it runs, etc 18:03:40 <Rubidium> well, C++ is traceable once running 18:03:50 <Smoovious> oh I see the menu options in there... but all I get out of them are DLL errors 18:03:54 <Rubidium> Smoovious: use a proper tool for that 18:04:14 <Rubidium> then the tool isn't installed/configured properly 18:04:21 <Smoovious> no kidding 18:04:24 <Rubidium> doesn't mean that it is impossible 18:04:26 <Smoovious> :P 18:04:32 <Smoovious> didn't say it was impossible... 18:04:41 <Smoovious> :D 18:04:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> open $IDE, insert breakpoint, hit "Run", and then "Single step" as you please 18:05:27 <Smoovious> $IDE? 18:06:01 <glx> the IDE you are using :) 18:06:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's a placeholder 18:06:16 <glx> MSVC for you IIRC 18:06:25 <Rubidium> Smoovious hasn't been using enough interpreted languages 18:06:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> i had more trouble tracing Haskell programs... 18:07:39 <Rubidium> yeah, that would be tricky to trace :) 18:08:25 <Smoovious> perhaps I have the terminology wrong... I'm thinking way back to qbasic :D 18:13:13 * Rubidium wonders whether you can in qbasic ask to set breakpoints on reading a particular variable 18:13:27 *** llugo [~lugo@pD958341E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:15:29 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit [] 18:17:01 <Smoovious> nope... just set them on particular lines of execution... but you really don't want to start a programming-environment-pissing-contest with 2 systems at least 25 years apart in development, do ya? :D 18:20:06 <Smoovious> (btw, Rubidium... its your fault... the things you told me to change last night? you left out the [0] I needed in one of the lines... :P ) 18:20:09 <Rubidium> nah, that would be a waste of my time 18:20:14 *** lugo [~lugo@pd95816dc.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:51 <Rubidium> Smoovious: ofcourse I did, I'm only giving some guidance, not the complete solution :) 18:21:34 <Smoovious> uh huh... nice cop out. :D 18:25:38 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 18:27:41 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498E379.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:46 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0772.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:49 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1367.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 18:40:47 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 18:41:02 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-188-24.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:44:12 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p50909E42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:44:20 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 18:45:17 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:48:13 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:48:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:48:51 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:52:41 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:55:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83998.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:14 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:57:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82859.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:57:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:58:59 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:08 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1367.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:48 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-188-24.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 19:05:52 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1554.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:08:29 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-235-123.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 19:14:23 *** setrodox__ [~setrodox@83-65-235-123.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:55 <neli> I always skip monorail, before conversion of network is done, it's time to upgrade to maglev ;) 19:18:17 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp91-76-146-204.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:18:54 *** waxman_ [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:08 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 19:22:39 <BlinK_> is there any tips how to remove roads when local authorities doesnt allow to do that.. i know that it is good place to start removing from loose end.. but in this situation roads are round... 19:26:06 <hylje> there's a patch option to allow removing of circular roads 19:27:08 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Sea 19:27:12 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27:22 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:27:54 <BlinK_> oh, thanks 19:29:17 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:27 <hylje> yw 19:41:04 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:41:32 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac58e9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42:38 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC58E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:30 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-235-123.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 19:55:21 <Renacor> what does platform length do for a railroad stop? 19:55:33 <Renacor> I know platform width but not sure what length does 19:56:18 <hylje> if your train is longer than the platform 19:56:21 <hylje> it will load and unload slower 19:57:03 <Renacor> ahh 19:58:34 <hylje> in essence you want your platforms be >=TL 20:08:17 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36A2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:16:28 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:16:29 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:33 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498DCD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:34 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:38 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:24:50 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:24:50 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27:50 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:52:42 <Belugas> padadim 20:52:45 <Belugas> padadam 20:53:47 <Belugas> #in the black room 20:53:57 <Belugas> #with white curtains 20:54:08 <Belugas> #near the station 20:54:10 <hylje> weird defines you have 20:54:21 <Belugas> but good song i hear ;) 20:54:36 <peter1138> poppadom? 20:56:17 <Belugas> no... 20:56:25 <Belugas> pom padapoomm 20:56:27 <Belugas> Cream - White Room 20:58:23 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:52 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-239-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:04 <dihedral> hi 20:59:22 <Belugas> and now... 20:59:25 <Belugas> time to... 20:59:29 <Belugas> say good bye! 20:59:33 <Belugas> night folks 20:59:38 <dihedral> "good bye" 21:03:28 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 21:08:13 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:39 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 21:14:23 *** Purno [~Purno@5351C3E7.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:33 *** BlinK_ [admin@client-87-247-124-130.turbozone.lt] has quit [Quit: It's never as sweet as it seems] 21:17:24 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:33 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 21:19:09 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 21:23:34 *** Draakon [~draakon50@88-196-110-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 21:30:45 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has joined #openttd 21:32:03 <peter1138> BANANAPHONE 21:35:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r9258 /branches/noai/src/ai/ai_factory.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix r9182: somehow a static variable became NULL if not initialised manually 21:36:33 <ln-> wtf? 21:39:02 <ln-> what is the value supposed to be if it's not initialized then? 21:39:33 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:41:40 <weasel> undefined? 21:42:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9259 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp roadveh_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: NUM_CARGO isn't a valid cargo type... 21:42:29 <Wolf01> it is like: "what noise make a tree falling in the middle of a forest when there is nobody listening at it?" 21:43:26 <ln-> weasel: not for static variables. 21:43:35 <peter1138> ln-: no idea 21:44:02 <peter1138> i'd look but i can't be arsed to check out the branch 21:44:06 <Rubidium> for structs/classes it should just call the constructor 21:44:23 <Rubidium> but apparantly the constructor wasn't called in this case 21:45:08 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:47:46 <weasel> ln-: does the C standard specify they be all zeroes? what if a pointer NULL is not the same as all zeroes? 21:48:14 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl8-40-29.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:56:38 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:00:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9260 /branches/noai/ (13 files in 5 dirs): 22:00:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Codechange: do the AI threading properly using a mutex and condition signalling. 22:00:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Note: this is pthread specific code, it needs to be ported to non POSIX platform. 22:04:06 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has joined #openttd 22:04:11 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:04:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host48-235-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:04:52 <_Ben_> hi, I have a question, regarding this post > http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=564604#564604 < 22:04:58 <Smoovious> ok, new diff posted... I also changed the shading, since I think that is what annoyed Rubidium the most. 22:05:30 <_Ben_> it says "copyright 2007 by Sergej_Sim, Allrights reserved." Now he made none of the graphics in there. So is that really ok? 22:05:46 <Rubidium> Smoovious: nice empty screenshot :) 22:05:58 <Smoovious> ugh 22:06:08 <Smoovious> forgot the screenshot doesn't save the text... dammit... 22:07:53 <Smoovious> anyways... after I did most of the changes you suggested... (I left the width set the way it was... I need to learn how to handle screen height/width changes in mid-game)... and this afternoon, I changed the shading so it doesn't get in the way so much 22:13:10 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has joined #openttd 22:16:10 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has quit [] 22:18:50 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip149.cab84.tln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 22:19:11 <Smoovious> new screenshot 22:19:59 <peter1138> that's ugly 22:20:02 <peter1138> sorr 22:20:09 <peter1138> shade the whole thing 22:20:17 <Smoovious> no way... that's ugly 22:22:08 <Smoovious> shading the whole thing is just annoying... and looks lazy 22:22:26 <peter1138> no, that looks crap 22:22:30 <Smoovious> might as well make an actual chat window if you're going to cover the whole thing 22:22:48 <Smoovious> no, it doesn't... shading the whole area that doesn't need to be shaded, is what looks like crap 22:22:59 <Smoovious> it looks cheap 22:23:05 <Smoovious> it looks like someone just didn't give a shit 22:24:46 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-227.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 22:26:04 <mikk36> ? 22:26:09 <mikk36> log? 22:26:46 <peter1138> hmm? 22:26:58 <Smoovious> log? 22:27:10 <mikk36> what screenie are you taling about ? 22:27:16 <mikk36> talking 22:27:16 <Smoovious> FS532 22:27:24 <mikk36> link ? 22:27:39 <Smoovious> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/532 22:28:27 <mikk36> :) 22:30:57 <_Ben_> hmm, nobofy know about the copyright thing? oh well, night 22:30:57 <_Ben_> nobody* 22:31:02 <mikk36> Smoovious, why did u put the second pic jpg ? 22:31:10 <mikk36> it's 5 times bigger :/ 22:31:15 <mikk36> and a lot worse 22:31:16 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has left #openttd [Leaving] 22:31:22 <Smoovious> because it was 10 times smaller than the bmp it was before 22:31:35 <mikk36> but why not default to png always? 22:31:35 <Smoovious> (I don't have a bmp-to-png converter yet) 22:31:46 <mikk36> straight from ottd to png ? 22:31:48 <Smoovious> because the old version of ACDSee I like to use, doesn't have png 22:31:57 <Smoovious> the first screenshot was straight to png 22:32:04 <Smoovious> notice how the text, didn't get saved to it 22:32:11 <Rubidium> mikk36: that doesn't print the text messages... 22:32:11 <mikk36> hm, ok 22:32:12 <mikk36> :P 22:32:16 <Smoovious> :P 22:32:18 <mikk36> understand now 22:32:33 <mikk36> though, i prefer irfanview :) 22:33:13 <Smoovious> well, anyways, I put in a lot of work on getting that working today, so if ya wanna use it, feel free... if not... >shrugs< 22:33:55 <Smoovious> I could very easily add in another patch option to select how you want it shaded 22:34:09 <Smoovious> minimal or full-window 22:35:27 <Smoovious> mikk36... I'm used to the key combinations... I tried a newer version of it, but I reverted back to the older one... the newer one added more steps for copy/compare at the same time... 22:35:39 <Smoovious> and I use that a lot 22:35:46 <mikk36> np :) 22:40:31 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-239-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]] 22:42:28 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 22:44:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> Smoovious: why not resize the window to the relevant area, before making a screenshot? 22:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> (i am pretty certain this is not -ise this time :p) 22:44:47 <Smoovious> yeah, I could have cropped it, and should have, but I didn't 22:44:54 <Smoovious> -se? 22:45:05 <peter1138> resise! 22:45:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> nothing, ignore that :p 22:45:11 <Smoovious> resize 22:45:24 <Smoovious> too late 22:45:53 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:11 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:50:14 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@87.102.80.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:14 *** Sacro__ [~Ben@87.102.80.216] has joined #openttd 22:52:34 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2AF9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:52:52 *** Sacro__ is now known as Sacro 22:53:04 <Sacro> this router is le buggered 22:53:13 <Sacro> !seen meush 22:53:14 <_42_> Sacro, MeusH (~MeusH@host-ip195-138.crowley.pl) was last seen quitting #openttd.wt2 3 days 21 hours 52 minutes ago (13.03. 01:00) stating "Quit: bye - quit" after spending 1 hour 41 minutes there. 22:56:48 <ln-> weasel: show me a case where NULL is not zero. 22:56:57 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:57:10 <Smoovious> well, it is in the dictionary. :) 22:57:42 <Smoovious> NULL = no value... 0 = value 22:57:46 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:57:49 <Sacro> anyone around here speak polish? 22:58:35 <mikk36> Sacro, define this 22:58:54 <Sacro> mikk36: define what? 22:59:03 <mikk36> 'this' router 22:59:09 <weasel> ln-: probably doesn't happen much (if ever :) in practice 22:59:18 <Sacro> [22:50] * Sacro_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <- THAT router 22:59:24 <peter1138> in SQL it happens ;p 22:59:30 <mikk36> and what router is that ? 22:59:40 <Sacro> hmm, Zyxel ZG-202 or something 22:59:44 * peter1138 sleeps 22:59:48 <Sacro> im going to swap it for a Belkin tommorow at work 22:59:48 <mikk36> ok, a soap-box :P 22:59:56 <mikk36> i don't trust soap-boxes 23:00:26 * mikk36 trusts his Athlon 750 based router :) 23:00:56 <Sacro> hmm, i cant do that though :( wish i could 23:01:16 <mikk36> :) 23:01:30 <mikk36> with 256MB PC133 and so on 23:02:04 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2AF9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:46 <ln-> weasel: show me the part of the standard that says NULL is allowed to have other value than zero. 23:06:18 <Smoovious> null shouldn't even be allowed a value of 0 23:06:29 <Sacro> indeed 23:06:33 <Sacro> 0 != null 23:06:33 <weasel> the point is that "all zero bytes" don't necessarily make a NULL pointer 23:07:05 <weasel> http://c-faq.com/null/null2.html mentions that a bit 23:16:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57a1d271.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:54 <Nigel> wow, didn't realise weasel was here 23:25:40 <weasel> didn't realize the channel existed until today 23:26:08 <weasel> ln-: (also, I found the real answer to my question. static variables are guarantted to be 0 (or NULL or 0.0, whatever the type)) 23:26:16 <ln-> does the channel exist, or are you just imagining it in your head? 23:26:49 <ln-> indeed, statics are automatically initialized to 0. 23:28:00 <weasel> I'm pretty sure it exists, but if I can't trust irssi then gdb ircd might lie to me too 23:29:36 <ln-> you could be imagining irssi and gdb as well. 23:30:35 <weasel> that's what you think. the truth is that we all are hired by the company producing this tv show in which you are starring 23:31:04 <weasel> (and trains never existed in the real world either) 23:31:44 <Smoovious> hey guys... for 'Service intervals are in percents:'... is that for if the reliability falls below the selected percent, then it'll go to depot? not time-based? 23:38:29 <valhallasw> could someone remind me how to switch off sound in openttd? 23:38:40 <valhallasw> that's the single option I never can find 23:40:03 <Smoovious> when in-game, click the button with the musical notes on it 23:40:18 <valhallasw> yeah 23:40:33 <valhallasw> ah, wait, a little tiny slider at the jukebox 23:40:33 <valhallasw> thx 23:40:41 <valhallasw> I overlooked it just a minute ago ;) 23:43:06 * Smoovious nods. 23:46:42 <valhallasw> thx 23:47:49 <Smoovious> yw 23:55:30 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Words get written, words get twisted, old meanings change in the drift of time.] 23:55:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd