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00:01:29 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 00:04:46 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 00:06:14 <Ailure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain 00:06:16 <Ailure> heh 00:06:22 <Ailure> I thought about implenting this in some way :o xD 00:13:14 *** A1win^ [a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:48 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 00:18:11 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-224-232.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:32:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9555 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Cleanup of industry_cmd (Step-9). 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Almost done 03:30:53 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:50 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@91.84.76.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:08:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9559 /trunk/src/ (12 files): -Documentation: doxygen and comment changes: 'U' and 'V' now. Almost done. Yeah. 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Did you write a plugin for that? (I want it!) 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"ME TOO!" 13:24:18 <Belugas> i want to sleeeeeep 13:25:31 <Belugas> but since it's 9:25 am, i guess i 13:25:33 <Belugas> d 13:25:38 <Belugas> better run for coffee 13:25:59 <Ailure> What about a highwa-...*shot* 13:30:44 <Belugas> #I Shot the sherrif 13:30:55 <Belugas> #but i didn't shout the deputy 13:33:05 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:33:36 <Ailure> hmm 13:33:36 <Ailure> lol 13:33:51 <Ailure> I loaded a random scenario with openTTD 0.5.0 13:33:56 <Ailure> Terra incinoto 13:33:59 <Ailure> or whatever it's spelled 13:34:14 <Ailure> one of the farms is emitting smoke o_O 13:34:28 <Ailure> power station smoke 13:34:29 <hylje> :o 13:34:44 <Ailure> yeah 13:34:47 <Ailure> Terra inconito 13:34:56 <Ailure> the farm north of Hercag Novi 13:35:04 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:35:31 <Ailure> it looks like one of the silos is on fire 13:36:54 <Wolf01> yeah, new disaster, farm silo on fire 13:37:17 <Belugas> #The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire 13:37:38 <Belugas> Ailure, can you provide me screenshot/savegame? 13:37:55 <Ailure> You can't just load that scenario with openTTD 0.5.0? 13:37:56 <Ailure> :o 13:38:01 <Ailure> it comes with 0.5.0 too I belive 13:38:25 * Belugas only has trunk stuff... 13:38:47 <Ailure> xD 13:39:02 <Ailure> alright, let me take a quick screenshot at least 13:39:46 <Ailure> http://194.47.44.229/Unnamed,%2011th%20Jan%201950.png 13:40:21 <SpComb> I had a forest fire ages ago in TTD 13:41:05 <Thomas[NL]> same map near Prijedor which farm owns that farmland :s? 13:41:21 <Ailure> [15:34] <Ailure> the farm north of Hercag Novi 13:41:29 <Ailure> oh 13:41:29 <Ailure> heh 13:41:55 <Ailure> ahaha 13:41:55 <Ailure> yeah 13:41:59 <Ailure> I know which dfarm you mean 13:41:59 <Belugas> thanks 13:42:11 <Ailure> whoever made the scenario 13:42:13 <Ailure> probably built a map 13:42:17 <Ailure> and then removed the farm 13:42:21 <Ailure> intresting 13:42:24 <Ailure> the farm does remove itself too 13:42:25 <Ailure> o_O 13:42:28 <Ailure> the farmland I mean 13:42:54 <Thomas[NL]> i notice :O 13:43:23 <Ailure> would actually cool if we could place farmland in the scenario editor manually though :p 13:43:39 <Ailure> or multiplayer scenario editing 13:52:01 *** Vikthor [opera@pc304-28.feld.cvut.cz] has left #openttd [] 13:53:41 <Thomas[NL]> since when had "data/" to be in front of you newGRFs in openttd.cfg? 13:53:49 <Thomas[NL]> what revision? 14:01:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> r9560 i guess 14:02:20 <Maedhros> 9561, really 14:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's funny, r9561 says "Fix (r9561)" ;) 14:14:43 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:57 <hylje> Eddi|zuHause2: recursive fix 14:21:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: maedhros * r9562 /trunk/src/ (command.cpp vehicle.cpp): -Fix: When cloning, pay for the refit costs as well. 14:34:46 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:38:21 *** Sacro|Laptop 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This change on newgrf search and directory is messing my config.. So i made a copy of my openttd directory and i'm trying in that backup to understand how to put all newgrf sets working again.. So when i start it it gives error on all newgrf saying it's not found, then if i go to newgrf menu and add some, when restarting openttd is all gone again.. At least the savegame doesn't broke... 18:20:46 <Digitalfox[Home]> ...and still finds the newgrf it needs 18:22:56 <Digitalfox[Home]> Rubidium: Can you help me with this?? ;) 18:23:38 <Maedhros> are you running 9560 or 9561? cause if it's 9560, upgrade ;) 18:23:49 <Digitalfox[Home]> 9562 18:24:00 <Digitalfox[Home]> windows nightly 18:25:30 <Digitalfox[Home]> My savegame that i've been playing for a week now, still finds the newgrf it needs, but and can't save the newgrf config.. It just reset's after adding it to newgrf menu or config file 18:26:47 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498DB4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> use the newgrf menu on the main screen 18:36:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> not in the savegame 18:36:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> when you change something during a running game, that does not get saved into the .cfg 18:37:44 <Digitalfox[Home]> Eddi|zuHause2: i know and what you saying is what i've been doing 18:38:10 <Digitalfox[Home]> I use the newgrf menu on the main screen 18:38:34 <Digitalfox[Home]> The is not my savegame that runs fine, is if i want to start a newgame 18:50:53 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:55:09 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 19:19:43 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176119065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:25:01 *** JameiLei [~itasjamie@82-36-81-159.cable.ubr03.harb.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:25:36 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176102063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:44:49 *** green-devil [~c@0x57355684.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:45:00 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:50:42 *** green_devil [~c@0x57355684.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:52:50 *** green-devil [~c@0x57355684.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:02:44 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:22:01 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 20:30:35 <dihedral> you ladies seem quiet today 20:45:03 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 20:51:07 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 20:52:50 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 20:57:50 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498DB4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:59:14 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176119065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 21:05:06 <Belugas> night all 21:08:38 <SpComb> ngt blgs 21:09:44 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:47 <DorpsGek> bark bark bark woef woef grrrrr 21:16:47 <SpComb> no quack 21:18:46 <TrueBrain> Maybe he is just in a bad mood 21:19:02 <DorpsGek> yawn 21:19:05 <TrueBrain> clearly he is 21:19:08 * TrueBrain slaps DorpsGek 21:36:55 *** JameiLei [~itasjamie@82-36-81-159.cable.ubr03.harb.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 21:53:31 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 21:54:55 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-55.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:26 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:50 <Wolf01> 'night 21:59:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host231-235-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:01:08 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:10:56 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-239-252.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:10:58 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-239-252.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 22:15:53 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:55 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:05 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 22:23:55 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:49 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 22:25:04 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498db4a.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:31 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac7fcf.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:13 *** Kander [~chatzilla@cd4401128.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:30:18 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-238-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 22:31:43 <Kander> Hey - I'm trying to get a development environment working on my machine following the guidelines described on the Wiki - it's not going very well so far. Anyone willing and able to hand-hold a relative new person to C, and at least get a first compilation run to succeed? 22:33:29 *** green_devil [~c@0x57355684.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 22:38:20 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb5308.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:03:38 * mggrant imagines if you ask direct and specific questions, you have a good chance of getting help on those things :) 23:04:30 <mggrant> also, if you want to paste more than about 3 lines, use a paste bin (e.g. http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste ) 23:08:54 <Kander> mggrant: Alright, here goes: 1. I've decided on using DevC++ as my IDE. Step 1 of it's instruction points me to setting up MinGW. So far so good. However, installing MinGW according to the instructions fails - if I choose the 'Candidate' installation I get 'File Read Error - can not download', after which installer quits on me. 23:09:49 <Kander> 2. The instructions on Compiling_on_DevCPlusPlus point me to a website which is now no longer exiting for DirectX libraries - how can I obtain these libraries with the referenced url being no longer there? 23:10:03 <Kander> *existing, even 23:10:10 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:32 <mggrant> hmm, afraid I'm a linux person, so can't help lots on those two.. :S 23:11:13 <Kander> For some reason I get the feeling that a lot of openTTD developers are from that camp - the docs seem highly outdated.. 23:11:26 <Kander> (I mean docs on compiling for windows.. ) 23:12:00 * mggrant has seen a bunch of windows talk here, so imagines it's not all bad :) 23:12:18 <Kander> Heh, remember any names of people that might be able to help out? 23:13:01 <mggrant> chances are you don't need an IDE too, though that can be a bit of a culture shock :) 23:13:35 <Kander> I have heard this weird talk of programmers in the olden days using nothing but a shell and their trusty kernel - but those are tales of lore long past... 23:13:44 * mggrant peers around the channel for anyone with a devC++ clue 23:13:53 <mggrant> hehe, make me feel creaky now ;) 23:14:00 <Kander> Even just MingW clue would be appreciated.. 23:14:40 * mggrant did install cygwin on a windows box only a few months ago, but isn't sure that counts ;) 23:15:12 <Kander> Basically at the moment anything that can get this [expletive] thing to compile would be appreciated.. 23:15:54 * mggrant eyes the linux install cd 23:16:30 <Kander> I've got this dinky Ubuntu cd thingy a geekish friend gave me some time ago.. :) I've been eyeing it a bit suspiciously for some time now.. 23:17:06 <mggrant> hehe 23:17:52 <Kander> Seriously, I did actually install it on a secondary machine some time ago. I'll boot it up and see if I can get anything working there, if you'd be able to help me get something up and running there? 23:18:00 <glx> mingw+msys is enough 23:18:12 <Kander> glx: That's awesome to hear.. 23:18:43 <glx> then you just need to get zlib, png and freetype 23:18:45 <Kander> Any hints/guides on how to proceed? The docs on the Wiki only seem to confuse me, instead of explaining what to do (considering half of the steps I follow end up in an error message) 23:19:49 <glx> the easy way is to use VC express 2005 :) 23:20:28 <Kander> Not going to walk that path.. I've tried installing some of the Express Visual Studio products some time ago... took me a reinstall to get my system somewhat clean again. 23:20:50 * PandaMojo <3s his Visual Stduio 23:21:29 <glx> Kander: start with http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Compiling_on_MinGW 23:21:33 <Kander> Only way I'll install VS from now on is in a nice isolated VMware session 23:21:39 <Kander> GLX: That's what I was looking at. 23:21:52 <glx> (you can skip directx step as it's not really needed) 23:22:28 <Kander> The first step immediately had me frustrated: "On the install, select Candidate, then select the Minimal install plus the g++ compiler." - it wouldn't install. Also, the ini file linked to wasn't a zip, so I was unsure if I had the right thing.. :/ 23:23:24 <glx> I use stable version (not candidate) 23:23:56 <Kander> Alright - I'll do that then (was already wondering why the docs pointed to a candidate release.. but figured it would know best) 23:24:38 <glx> candidate has gcc 3.4.5, stable is gcc 3.4.2 23:24:48 <Kander> Benefit of which being..? 23:25:04 <glx> less bugs I think :) 23:25:15 <Kander> I hope so... 23:25:36 <glx> anyway gcc 3.4.x is old 23:25:53 <Kander> :/ So what should I use instead? 23:26:03 <glx> use stable 23:26:15 <Kander> Alright. 23:26:18 <glx> works well for me 23:26:25 <Kander> It's downloading and installing now 23:28:25 <Kander> Done. Yay! 23:28:41 <mggrant> edit the wiki while you're at it too :) 23:29:12 <glx> hmm I must update mingw-runtime and win32-api it seems (new version available) 23:29:47 <Kander> mggrant: I'm keeping notes of what I'm doing, and will certainly write up new docs for the wiki when done. 23:30:08 <mggrant> \o/ 23:30:21 <mggrant> good luck and goodnight :) 23:30:58 <Kander> Thanks 23:31:40 * Kander chuckles at the MSYS normalizing script 'Oh joy - you do not have make.exe. Keep it that way'. Nerds are funny. 23:33:23 <glx> it's just because there's also mingw32-make and this one is bad 23:33:55 <Kander> Alright - good to know. I'm reading the MSYS_WELCOME docs now, trying to make sense of it.. 23:35:47 <Kander> What's an fstab record? :/ 23:36:34 <glx> that's for mount 23:38:41 <Kander> Here's another dumb question: In Setting up for Dev-C++ it said we won't be using SVN. First step of that procedure was 'Go to compiling for MinGW and follow the setup steps there, then come back'. MinGW uses SVN in it's last step... should I check out the latest version from the repository, or just build from source the latest RC? (which is easier for beginners?) 23:41:28 <glx> hmm you'll need freetype-2.1.9-mingwPORT too 23:41:38 <Kander> Where do I get that? 23:42:02 <Kander> (and more importantly: where do I need to place it after I've snatched it from the net?) 23:42:19 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb5308.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:26 <glx> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435&package_id=82721&release_id=295947 23:43:20 <glx> same as wget, zlib and pnglib 23:43:33 <Kander> Haven't gotten around to those yet... 23:44:55 <Kander> Do I need wget or wget mingwport? :/ (so many choices...) 23:45:43 <glx> migwport (follow the wiki :)) 23:46:48 <Kander> Ah, right - thought your instructions were diverging from the wiki... you just skipped ahead a bit :) 23:48:03 <glx> I just added one step :) 23:50:48 <Kander> When this is all done, I'm definitely going to uninstall everything tomorrow and begin from scratch again - making sure I've got it all covered and then put together a coherent set of instructions for on the Wiki. 23:51:13 <glx> good idea :) 23:53:14 <Kander> Here's another: It says I should copy the files from the SVN zip to /usr/share... I figured out after some poking around that the unix paths mentioned map to my msys installation directory.. so far so good. However, usr is missing from there. Where can I find my usr/share dir? :/ 23:53:54 <Kander> Err. /usr/local even.. my bad. 23:56:51 <glx> check /etc/fstab (x:\msys.0\etc\fstab) 23:57:58 <Kander> All it says is one single line: f:/local/mingw /mingw (f:\local\mingw\ is where I installed mingw)