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00:01:20 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has joined #openttd 00:16:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:20:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:58 *** mattt__ [~m@bas5-ottawa23-1088841975.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 00:34:19 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:43:57 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r11247 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Fix: The Industry's name to fund could be larger than the window itself. Now, it fits within the physical allowed space 00:58:50 <huma> Belugas: i use lucida console 11 and it doesn't fit the line height 01:11:43 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-66-102.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:13:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:20:32 *** egladil_ibook [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:30:47 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74E34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:54 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:46:14 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 01:54:55 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:56:28 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 02:00:04 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83C98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:47 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83A4C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:01:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 02:05:27 *** gynterk [~gynter@84-50-129-63-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:11:13 <mattt__> anyone know the ratio of trains/tile? 02:21:59 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has quit [Quit: *poof!* I am gone -=- Using ChatZilla] 02:34:02 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:09:24 *** Burgundavia_ [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:10:56 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:12:30 *** Burgundavia_ [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [] 03:49:19 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-60-229-11-10.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:55:05 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498E03C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:55:06 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498CBCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:02:11 *** mattt__ [~m@bas5-ottawa23-1088841975.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: mattt__] 04:19:48 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.5.169.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:30:51 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip71.77.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:06:45 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:20:03 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB74AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:22:19 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-60-229-11-10.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:23:18 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-60-229-11-10.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:26:39 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB57AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:45:14 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h229n1c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Screw you guy, I'm going home and smoke pot] 05:55:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:52:22 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has joined #openttd 06:55:44 *** FRkubik [~frquadrat@194.143.134.103] has joined #openttd 06:56:34 *** FRkubik is now known as FR^2 06:56:47 <FR^2> Good morning (here at least) 07:15:02 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has joined #openttd 07:23:32 <dihedral|away> morning ladies 07:23:33 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 07:24:42 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 07:26:37 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:35:47 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-234.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:39:17 *** dihedral|away is now known as dihedral|work 07:49:04 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:02:00 *** Hendikins|Work is now known as Hendikins 08:24:02 *** mucht_work [~martin@143.50.125.77] has joined #openttd 08:35:27 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CA45.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:36:58 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:46:03 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 08:48:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 08:56:58 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB74AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 08:59:40 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 09:03:52 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-60-229-11-10.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.net] 09:05:31 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:57 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:19:39 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:26:55 *** DNazarov [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 09:27:05 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:51:12 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:57:37 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:02:42 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:23 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: May the ducttape be with you] 10:11:45 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:57 *** mucht_work [~martin@143.50.125.77] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:14:10 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@145.94.221.148] has joined #openttd 10:16:38 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 10:16:39 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04326F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:24 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@145.94.221.148] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25:07 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:25:24 * dihedral|work wonders if he as ever mentioned that people here are way too silent 10:25:29 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 10:26:47 <FR^2> dihedral|work: Hmm. What do you suppose should one answer to "morning ladies"? 10:27:15 <boekabart> dihedral|work: no work to do? :p 10:27:21 <dihedral|work> at least "(?:good\s)?morning" 10:28:07 <FR^2> dihedral|work: Does the idea of a channel full of bncs disturb you? 10:28:41 <dihedral|work> i just look for distraction :) 10:32:33 <boekabart> dihedral|work: that's what I referred to 10:33:14 <dihedral|work> you asked me if i have work to do... and i do 10:33:39 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-187-154.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:33:57 * dihedral|work greets Ammller 10:35:41 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has joined #openttd 10:35:42 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:39 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:39:35 *** G [~njones@202-154-146-188.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:48:40 *** dihedral|work is now known as dihedral|lunch 10:48:55 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:51:30 *** Stoffe [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22.2] 10:56:22 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:59:40 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:00 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:04:11 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:10:16 <mcbane> afternoon. 11:10:56 <FR^2> hiho 11:12:08 *** G [~njones@202-154-146-188.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 11:18:17 *** gynterk [~gynter@84-50-129-63-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 11:28:24 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:33:34 *** dihedral|lunch is now known as dihedral|work 11:38:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E972.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:26 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 11:41:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-145-161.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:47:17 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:05 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 11:48:29 <orudge> "YouTube link == Ban"? 11:48:31 <orudge> !Logs 11:48:33 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 11:48:33 <orudge> !logs 11:51:57 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 12:00:40 *** plaes_ [~plaes@ns.store20.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:39 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04326F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: BigBB] 12:07:34 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:24:13 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:28:27 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4239.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:28:41 <skidd13> Hi 12:29:05 <mcbane> huhu 12:29:11 <SpComb> oink 12:30:03 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:30:34 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:31:02 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04326F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:31:35 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150043140.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 12:31:48 <mcbane> huhu 12:31:50 <mcbane> ups 12:34:31 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:37:22 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:38:11 <Ammller> what does "closed" mean in FS? 12:38:19 <Ammller> solved or won't be solved? 12:39:42 <Noldo> I think there is separate Won't fix 12:41:07 <Ammller> oh, in my case, its solved... :) 12:41:18 <skidd13> Ammller: There should be an aditional comment "Reason for closing:  Fixed" that describes it. 12:41:37 <skidd13> s/aditional/additional/ 12:41:49 <Ammller> yes, just saw it 12:42:03 <Ammller> I need to look in the commit comment 12:42:27 <Ammller> !openttd commit 11191 12:42:29 <_42_> Commit by glx :: r11191 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2007-10-01 18:59:25 UTC) 12:42:31 <_42_> -Fix [FS#1227]: GLS_ACTIVATION stage must be done immediatly after GLS_RESERVE stage, before the GLS_RESERVE stage for the next newgrf. 12:42:48 <glx> needs 11196 also :) 12:42:48 <Ammller> hmm... 12:43:00 <Ammller> ah :) 12:43:19 <blathijs> GLS? 12:43:19 <Ammller> !openttd commit 11196 12:43:21 <_42_> Commit by glx :: r11196 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2007-10-02 20:20:14 UTC) 12:43:23 <_42_> -Fix (r11191): _cur_stage was incorrect for GLS_ACTIVATION stage 12:43:59 <glx> grf loading stage blathijs 12:44:01 <Ammller> glx: did my nothing.grf help ? 12:44:06 <glx> yes 12:44:08 <blathijs> glx: ah, tnx 12:44:20 <glx> Ammller: it worked with 11191 12:47:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> how would i go and install TTDP with wine? (for grf testing) 12:47:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, i might still have a TTD directory from windows times... 12:47:57 <glx> you need it :) 12:48:50 <Ammller> Eddi|zuHause2: a small howto: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Ttdp 12:56:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> ~/spiele/Tycoon5> wine ttdpatchw.exe 12:56:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> Unknown language 'de_DE.UTF-8' specified in the environment 12:56:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> variable LANG or LANGUAGE. Known languages: 12:58:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> c:\windows\system32\wcmd.exe /C COPY GAMEGFX.EXE TTDLOADW.OVL >nul 12:58:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> Konnte c:\windows\system32\wcmd.exe nicht ausfï¿œhren. 12:59:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, i assume case sensitivity... 13:01:50 <Ammller> Eddi|zuHause2: I guess you also need the to give the parameter -y for skipping version questions... 13:02:55 <FR^2> Hmm. I have a question concerning development organization of openttd... The nightly builds have very different features implemented, isn't it? So when in one nightly e.g. it is possible to buy a larger area of land by dragging the mouse, in the current builds this feature isn't implemented any more? 13:03:48 <Noldo> I don't remember other features being removed from nighlies other than pbs 13:04:25 <Phazorx> perhaps some bugs are classified as features before removed? 13:04:35 <Noldo> releases don't have all the bleeding edge features, but that's quite natural I think 13:05:06 <Ammller> Phazorx: which is? 13:05:42 <Phazorx> Ammller: i dont think i have any examples 13:05:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> FR^2: releases have all features the nightly had in last december 13:05:57 <FR^2> Hmm. No, I'm only talking about the nightly builds, not the releases. 13:06:10 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has joined #openttd 13:06:27 <Phazorx> Ammller: how's the pack coming along btw? 13:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> FR^2: maybe you used one of the various "Integrated" builds 13:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> FR^2: drag-buying land was never feature of a nightly 13:07:00 <FR^2> Hmm. 13:07:14 <Ammller> FR^2: there is patch for "your" feature and they are in INs like Mini or Chris 13:07:17 <Phazorx> FR^2: perpas you are talking about miniIN or ChrisIN? 13:07:32 <FR^2> Then I was mistaken, I thought I read it in the forums somewhere. 13:08:07 <Ammller> Phazorx: I have still no 10.3 on my pc 13:08:17 <Phazorx> what's 10.3? 13:08:27 <skidd13> I assume OpenSuSE 13:08:34 <Ammller> openSUSE 13:08:45 <skidd13> :9 13:08:45 <Phazorx> is that prerequisite for coop grf pack 6? 13:09:20 <Ammller> :), yes, at least it was yesterday 13:09:29 <Ammller> but I guess, I will stay on 10.2 13:10:00 <Ammller> I am to lazy for new installation and upgrade won't work 13:10:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> wine: Unhandled page fault on write access to 0x00000001 at address 0x603d07 (thread 0026), starting debugger... 13:11:14 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:13:17 <Phazorx> Ammller: may i ask what feat6ures of .3 are so criticaly important to you, so you decided to spend your time upgrading? 13:15:04 <Ammller> hmm, just courious about it, nothing special 13:15:11 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has left #openttd [] 13:15:33 <Ammller> oh, the new kernel, I need the USB support for my mobile phone 13:15:57 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-234.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:16:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> whenever i try to update to a new kernel, something fails 13:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> i now managed to get the modules right, so it recognises my SATA disk 13:16:44 <Ammller> thats why I only like to update with distros 13:16:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> but now i get wrong emty space values 13:17:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> or at least writing sometimes fails with "disk full", when df reports 3GB free 13:17:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ammller: i have a distro 13:17:52 <Ammller> I updated on spring to 22 or 21 and usb works, but had problems with wlan then 13:17:58 <Ammller> so I went pack to 18 13:18:14 <Ammller> I mean I update the kernel, when I update the distro 13:20:04 <FR^2> Well, seems I'm totally confused about the development organization concerning changes / feature requests etc. *shrug* 13:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> FR^2: bugs.openttd.org? 13:20:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> svn log? 13:22:01 <FR^2> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/331 13:22:50 <glx> Reason for closing: Won't implement 13:22:50 <glx> Additional comments about closing: By policy we do not want this tool 13:23:10 <glx> so you won't see it in nighlies or releases 13:23:43 *** LittleMikey [~mlawrence@203-59-174-105.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:24:01 <FR^2> glx: Oh now I read that,too. *g* Okay, okay, thanks for the hints :) 13:24:29 <glx> but as the comment says, it was in MiniIN 13:24:31 <hylje> DO NOT WANT 13:26:08 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 13:26:29 <FR^2> glx: Exactly that was the information I overlooked :) 13:27:18 <Ammller> hmm, btw, its a clientside patch, so you can patch your client and play on MP 13:27:30 <Ammller> with the advantage of it 13:27:48 <glx> it sends a bunch of CMD_BUY_LAND? 13:27:56 <hylje> eww 13:28:08 <glx> that's stupid 13:28:12 <Ammller> I thought so, long time ago, I tried 13:28:49 <Ammller> same with c&p patch 13:29:12 <glx> well c&p can't work differently 13:29:15 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:29:36 <glx> but buy land could send only one command with start and end 13:30:26 <Phazorx> glx: I got an idea for nifty MP feature 13:30:27 <glx> needs a modified server though 13:31:07 <Phazorx> idea similar to "ping" command in some MP RTOS to get attention to some area - server broadcasted scrollto event 13:31:15 <Phazorx> sent as newsarticle 13:31:26 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4239.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 13:31:36 <FR^2> Ammller: Maybe I will try that. I'm not that familiar with the internals, I even haven't tried out other graphics sets, yet 13:32:36 <Ammller> hmm, wasn't meant, youj should try it :) 13:33:17 <Phazorx> FR^2: looks change quite a bit, and grf bring not only grapfics 13:34:17 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 13:35:00 *** LittleMikey [~mlawrence@203-59-174-105.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #openttd [] 14:07:03 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 14:07:46 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498CBCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:08:30 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:13:04 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 14:15:49 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 14:28:54 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:36:18 <ln-> how could i generate a UML diagram (or similar) of all the dependencies in a program? (based on source code) 14:37:27 <ln-> doxygen+graphviz is otherwise sufficient, but it doesn't show _all_ classes in one picture. 14:39:35 * dihedral|work wants to go home... 14:42:10 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:27 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:53:50 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498CBCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:55 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:55 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-66-102.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:04:04 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-71.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 15:05:13 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6436.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:01 <skidd13> Any dev comments to 1328 15:06:02 <skidd13> ? 15:09:47 <Belugas> nice cleaning 15:09:52 <Belugas> lots of lines to read 15:10:05 <Belugas> you're good at doing lots of lines of code :D 15:11:14 <Belugas> BRSW_PLAT_<xxx> is a bit obscure as a name. my opinion 15:11:17 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 15:11:34 * dihedral|work greets Belugas 15:12:59 <Belugas> hey :) 15:14:09 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:14:23 <Belugas> apart from that, skidd13, seems to be going the rigth way 15:14:28 <Belugas> from quick reading 15:14:44 <dihedral|work> any outlook on getting towns grf'able at some point? :-P 15:14:51 <skidd13> Belugas: I agree that there can be a better name, but I hate too_long_names 15:15:03 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41604.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:15:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:15:27 <skidd13> dihedral|work: what do you need? 15:15:35 <Belugas> dihedral|work: who knows 15:16:05 <dihedral|work> skidd13: like with new industries, a factory can only accept so 'n so much of any raw material 15:16:25 <dihedral|work> i would like to see a town only able to accept so 'n so much pax, water, food, goods 15:17:00 <dihedral|work> that would then make people distribute food, water, goods across more towns, rather than just dumping stuff in one town 15:17:10 <dihedral|work> which then would make more towns grow 15:17:50 <dihedral|work> + you get more realism 15:18:08 <dihedral|work> nobody dumps 40k passangers a month in a 3k town 15:18:23 <Belugas> [11:20] <dihedral|work> + you get more realism <--- that is the best argument one could give me for NOT dong it :D 15:18:34 <dihedral|work> LOL 15:18:50 <dihedral|work> Belugas: it adds complexity to the game, making it more challenging 15:19:04 <dihedral|work> how do you like that 15:19:22 <Belugas> skidd13 : so it's the challenge to find better and still short name ;) 15:19:33 <skidd13> dihedral|work: there is a branch for the rewrite of the economy you kow. 15:19:41 <dihedral|work> is there? 15:19:51 <skidd13> Belugas: yup :( :| :) :D 15:20:11 <Belugas> dihedral|work: i have some ideas on that, but nothing clear yet. Problem is that currently, towns have nothhing really special to make grf-able, as you mentionned. 15:20:25 <Belugas> but it would eventually be faisable, on the basis of town-models 15:20:50 <glx> towns don't accept anything anyway 15:21:23 <skidd13> dihedral|work: svn://svn.openttd.org/branches/gamebalance 15:21:28 <dihedral|work> nice 15:21:34 <dihedral|work> thanks skidd13 i'll have a look 15:21:57 <skidd13> but there haven't been commits recently IIRC 15:24:29 <skidd13> Belugas: BRSW_PLAT_<xxx> Do you have more problems with BRSW or with PLAT? 15:24:42 <Belugas> PLAT 15:24:55 <skidd13> :%s /PLAT/PLATFORM/g 15:25:20 <Belugas> although, yes, BRSW is a bit obscur if you do not see the name of the enum 15:25:34 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:26:40 <skidd13> uppercase -> "BuildRailStationWidget_PLATFORM_NUM_X" is really to long ;) 15:27:41 <frosch123> Hhm, shouldn't BRSW_PLATFORM_NUMBER and BRSW_PLATFORM_LENGTH suffice? (like BRSw_PLATFORM_NUMBER + 5 instead of BRSW_PLAT_LEN_5) 15:27:49 <frosch123> They are used in computation anyway. 15:28:59 <glx> I don't think switch likes case x+y: 15:29:28 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@194.143.134.103] has left #openttd [Na prima, die Welt geht unter, aber wir haben Senf, WurzelbÃŒrsten und Badezusatz!] 15:29:56 * frosch123 misses ranges in cases like in Delphi :) 15:30:12 * Belugas nods 15:30:31 <glx> or strings in cases like in VB :) 15:30:39 <Belugas> that is evil! 15:30:53 <Belugas> but cool :D 15:31:48 <skidd13> IMO I should replace some of the "BRSW_PLATFORM_DIR_Y" with "BRSW_PLATFORM_NUM_1 - 1" cause then the widgets could be treated more dynamic, but thats a damned additional calculation... 15:32:21 <skidd13> evil is cool, if it is documented enough... :D 15:33:53 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489D4F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:16 <Belugas> agreed :) 15:35:31 <skidd13> The diff of my patch sucks, cause it let the patch appear so huge. But thats a general problem :( 15:37:16 <Belugas> one way to solve it, i think, would be to go one window per patch 15:37:27 <Belugas> not basing work on a file 15:37:46 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:35 <skidd13> That solves the result not the problem ;) I need a word based diff not a line based. 15:41:15 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489EB32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:07 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6436.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:55:12 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r11248 /trunk/src/newgrf_commons.cpp: 15:55:12 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Fix[FS#1314]: The logic behind industry slot allocation was implying that the only condition an override could be placed in a slot is that there were no previous override. 15:55:12 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: That is not exact: the slot must not have been occupied by an industry coming from a grf. 15:55:12 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: So now, tourist center is available if more then one grf is used 15:56:06 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:43 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> <glx> I don't think switch likes case x+y: <- as long as x und y are const, that should be fine... but i'm not a C expert... 15:58:12 <toresbe> glx: not a problem at all 16:00:46 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150043140.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:03 *** Arpad58 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:07 *** Ammller is now known as chris\ 16:06:25 *** chris\ is now known as Ammler 16:06:39 *** Arpad58 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:05 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:15:14 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 16:23:42 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:18 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 16:28:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:29:00 *** LeviathNL [~LeviathNL@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:29:04 *** AntB is now known as AntB_nobody-home 16:29:22 <Wolf01> hello 16:29:36 <LeviathNL> hi 16:31:24 <LeviathNL> hmm where can i find Whitehand's Tourist Set, his is only giving php-errors 16:31:30 <LeviathNL> his site 16:32:31 *** Betalord [~notgiven@89.212.76.147] has joined #openttd 16:32:34 <LeviathNL> oh wait, /drupal is giving errors, /wordpress works 16:33:10 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 16:37:47 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:45:25 *** dihedral|work is now known as dihedral|away 16:46:21 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-225-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:48 <dihedral> huhu 16:55:36 <Ailure> lo 16:55:36 *** LeviathNL [~LeviathNL@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:36 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:38 <Ailure> lol 16:55:43 <Ailure> I read that was Whitehand's tourettes set 16:56:58 *** LeviathNL [~LeviathNL@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:58:08 <dihedral> what ya guys say to a custom penalty rail tile? 17:00:34 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-146-188.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 17:00:42 <Ailure> hmm? 17:00:44 <Ailure> how would it work 17:02:20 *** G [~njones@202-154-146-188.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:49 <Bjarni> if a train tries to figure out if it should use the track, it will get a custom penalty for using it 17:05:07 <Bjarni> or something 17:07:47 <LeviathNL> when constructing industries that require to be buikd within a minimal distance of a town Openttd seems to measure from the center of the city. Is this intended behaviour? 17:08:03 <glx> yes 17:08:59 <dihedral> yes 17:09:07 <LeviathNL> ok 17:09:10 <dihedral> something like a wp that you can add a penalty to 17:09:10 <Bjarni> yes 17:09:21 <dihedral> sorry - responding to something else LeviathNL 17:10:05 <dihedral> Ailure: so that you are not limited to building stations in the middle of nowhere for a whopping huge penalty or rows of roadcrossings for smaller ones 17:10:15 <Bjarni> dihedral: I figured as much and it sounds like an idea. Sort of like the signs, but maybe a bit easier to use 17:10:40 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5398.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:10:41 <dihedral> at least for those people who somewhat understand yapf :-P 17:10:49 <dihedral> hello skidd13 17:10:50 <Bjarni> hehe 17:10:54 <Ailure> heh 17:10:56 <Bjarni> hi skidd13 17:11:00 <skidd13> Hi 17:11:04 <Ailure> I sorta understand how YAPF works in theory 17:11:15 <hylje> aww 17:11:16 <Bjarni> <dihedral> at least for those people who somewhat understand yapf :-P <-- we don't care for the rest :P 17:11:39 <Ailure> at least in theory 17:11:45 <Bjarni> I mean we don't care for people who can't figure out that a higher number will decrease the chance of a train to use this route 17:11:50 <Ailure> I know the math behind it, but don't ask me reproducing it into openTTD or anything 17:11:51 <Ailure> :) 17:12:08 <Bjarni> I wouldn't code it either 17:12:47 <dihedral> yes - it would be a pain to code i guess 17:14:56 <Bjarni> but you just said that you want to code a waypoint with a penalty 17:15:08 <Bjarni> would be interesting to give it a negative penalty :) 17:15:24 <dihedral> LOL 17:15:31 <Belugas> and graphically? How to represent it? 17:15:36 <Ailure> well 17:15:40 <Ailure> I remember something like that being done 17:15:48 <Ailure> with speed signs or something 17:16:03 <dihedral> speed signs are something else 17:16:08 <Ailure> no 17:16:11 <Ailure> it wasn't really speed signs 17:16:12 <Ailure> more like 17:16:17 <Ailure> fast trains would prefer a lane 17:16:21 <Ailure> and slow trains would prefer another lane 17:16:26 <Ailure> it affected the pathfinding 17:16:35 <Ailure> by increasing or decreasing penatly depending on the trainspeed 17:16:40 <dihedral> lol 17:16:51 <Bjarni> so if the train use the strait track, it's only 15 tiles, but if it turns and make the 200 tile detour, then it will have a lower penalty because of the negative penalties.... yeah, this is how real life railroads works 17:17:23 <dihedral> "we appologize for the 2 hour delay, due to ..." 17:17:25 <dihedral> YAPF 17:17:29 <dihedral> :-P 17:17:33 <Ailure> heh 17:17:48 <Ailure> I really love how how a train can get stuck at a terminus station in YAPF 17:17:48 <Ailure> if lost 17:17:50 <dihedral> and the additional running cost 17:17:58 <Bjarni> I once got a like 10 km detour... they didn't want me to pass a certain switch 17:18:02 <Ailure> since the train can't find a path to it's destination 17:18:16 <Ailure> it kept going forward 17:18:44 <Ammler> something like this routemarker signals? http://www.myimg.de/?img=rmarksig750dd.png 17:18:58 <Ailure> and it kept trying to enter a busy lane at the station 17:19:00 <dihedral> NCIE 17:19:03 <Ailure> I swear that's my most common deadlock :/ 17:19:24 <dihedral> how do they work Ammler 17:19:25 <Ailure> reqalized later it was partly due to my stupidty though 17:19:38 <Bjarni> I don't think the colours selected to be NCIE 17:19:41 <Ammler> just give penalty to the color 17:20:08 <Ammler> you can define train, which color should not give penalty or which more 17:20:19 <Ammler> don't know exactly 17:20:38 <dihedral> heh 17:20:38 <Ammler> I agree Bjarni 17:20:56 <Ammler> I rather would like the programmable signals 17:21:18 <Bjarni> in fact if it's a waypoint, then displaying them as signals would be wrong 17:21:23 <Bjarni> they should be signs 17:21:25 <hylje> programmable signal systems! 17:21:47 <Ammler> Bjarni: they aren't waypoints 17:21:48 <dihedral> pss 17:21:56 <Bjarni> I know 17:21:58 <dihedral> Bjarni: they dont have to be waypoints 17:22:09 <Phazorx> i'd like "reactional signals" with definable signal block, like if there is a train anywhere between here and here - go red 17:22:17 <Ammler> the train don't have to pass the signal 17:22:21 <dihedral> just something where you get a field box when clicking it and being able to ender 300 or 1000 if you like 17:22:23 <Bjarni> but the idea is that the tile gives an additional penalty of a condition is met (or not met) 17:22:29 <Bjarni> which would make it a sign, not a signal 17:22:53 <Ammler> waypoints are rubbish, btw. 17:23:06 <Bjarni> waypoints are flawed by design 17:23:17 <Phazorx> Bjarni: pentaly as a change in prefernce of certain path or profibit some choices entirely? 17:23:21 <dihedral> why is that 17:23:40 <Bjarni> they are limited to one tile only 17:23:42 *** G [~njones@202-154-146-188.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 17:23:42 <Bjarni> by design 17:24:00 <Ailure> I love the cargo announcments 17:24:03 <Bjarni> Phazorx: yes. You wouldn't need a signal to do that 17:24:20 *** FlowaPowa [~Flowa@4va54-4-82-244-103-144.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:22 <Ailure> it flipflops between "Finstock Steel mill accepts coal" "Finstock steel mill no longer accepts coal" 17:24:26 <Phazorx> that was an "or" question 17:24:41 <Bjarni> Ailure: make a bug report 17:24:52 <Ailure> that's hardly a bug 17:25:01 <Ailure> it's telling the truth 17:25:08 <Ailure> it's just that it stops being true rather quickly 17:25:16 <Bjarni> the bug is that it turns the coal acceptance on and off 17:25:23 <Bjarni> if it keeps doing that 17:25:28 <dihedral> Ailure: stop delivering as fast 17:25:30 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-146-188.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:33 <dihedral> or open a nother steel mill 17:25:39 <Ailure> Even better 17:25:44 <Ailure> I need to give it more iron ore 17:25:46 <Ailure> :/ 17:25:49 <Ailure> it's hard to balance 17:26:10 <Bjarni> then it's good that you are using conventional rails and not monorail 17:26:22 <Bjarni> out of balanced monorails would suck 17:26:34 <dihedral> yes 17:27:06 <dihedral> Ailure: you would have to ballence that with the amount of coal mines you serve and the amount of iron ore mines you serve 17:27:12 <dihedral> not with the amount of trains 17:27:13 <Ailure> eyp 17:27:16 <Ailure> Yep 17:27:17 <Ailure> I know 17:27:23 <Ailure> the ratio was something like 17:27:38 <Ailure> I think you need one coal for every other iron ore 17:27:44 <Ailure> I'm giving it too much coal 17:28:06 <Bjarni> lucky for you it's OpenTTD 17:28:07 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:28:15 <Bjarni> this issue would really suck in SimuTrans 17:28:58 <Ailure> lol 17:30:45 <Bjarni> in SimuTrans if the steel mill demands 1 coal and one iron, then it will take away one coal and one iron at the same time. If you flood it with coal and no iron, then the input buffer for coal would fill up and once it's full, it will not accept coal until something is removed from the buffer 17:31:01 <Bjarni> I think we should implement this to get realistic behaviour 17:31:05 <Bjarni> and to annoy Ailure 17:31:31 <hylje> :o 17:31:50 <Ailure> :P 17:32:02 <glx> Bjarni: already doable with new industries I think 17:32:03 <Ailure> earlier in this game I almost had the opposite problem 17:32:06 <Ailure> too much iron ore 17:32:15 <hylje> unpossible.. 17:32:53 <Ailure> actually seems like it was balanced 17:33:00 <Ailure> ...i just had a deadlock at a iron ore source 17:33:04 <Bjarni> glx: that's possible. I didn't really test new industries yet 17:33:17 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-66-102.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:39:47 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl5402B3E5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:40:39 * Belugas confirms glx's saying 17:40:57 <Belugas> pikkabird uses it a lot 17:41:12 <Belugas> called stockpilling (i think) 17:42:09 <Belugas> you deliver coal. nice. but nothing happens until you deliver iron ore too. THEN and only then can the indu produces steel 17:42:13 <Belugas> just an example 17:43:29 <dihedral> yes 17:43:34 <dihedral> i quite like that feature 17:43:41 <dihedral> adds complexity 17:45:07 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has joined #openttd 17:51:00 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-187-154.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:52:04 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-187-154.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:27 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:05:57 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-187-154.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 18:06:07 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-187-154.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:05 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:44 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-158-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> re: custom penalty, i have said this multiple times, as a first step, one could put a waypoint, and enter something resembling "cargo==freight?500:10" 18:14:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> as the waypoint name 18:15:09 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-112-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> then, in yapf or npf code, if you hit a waypoint tile, you parse the name 18:15:23 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:15:25 *** boekabart [~bdb@ip218-114-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 18:15:33 <Bjarni> sounds like a hack 18:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can later replace that by a real scripting interface 18:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> like squirrel 18:16:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> it 18:16:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> 's not a hack 18:16:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's a proof of concept 18:17:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> the real challenge will be to implement something to create squirrel code from within the game 18:18:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> either a sufficiently powerful GUI 18:18:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> or an edit box to enter code directly 18:18:45 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-168-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> but the changes to YAPF should not be more than a few lines of code 18:21:16 <boekabart> programmable signals? 18:22:37 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5EE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:23:44 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-158-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:56 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:26:47 *** AntB_nobody-home is now known as AntB 18:30:29 <Wolf01> uhm... newindustries close too randomly 18:31:35 <Sacro> Wolf01: too randomly? 18:32:00 <Wolf01> yes, they are producing at good rates and suddenly close 18:32:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> boekabart: no, more like programmable route penalties 18:32:37 <Wolf01> raw industries are a pain.. you find them, start a profitable route, and then they close 18:33:01 <Wolf01> i can understand secondary industries.. but raw ones 18:33:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> Wolf01: set industries to stable? 18:34:25 <Wolf01> economy: fluctuating, inflation: on 18:34:56 <Wolf01> but with NI is really more difficult than the normal game 18:35:03 <skidd13> good night 18:35:14 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5398.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:36:02 *** AntB is now known as AntB_NotHere 18:37:18 <Wolf01> and all fishing grounds, except one, closed their activity.. but they are still present on the map 18:37:45 <Wolf01> or better, they are producing, but the station sign disappeared 18:39:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sounds weird 18:39:58 <blathijs> Eddi|zuHause2: Very interesting idea (custom penalties) 18:46:17 *** MarkSlap [~shit@81-232-62-139-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:54:36 <Belugas> Wolf01: any peculiar? or in general? 18:54:55 <Belugas> ECS as well as PBI? 18:54:55 <Wolf01> in general 18:55:02 <Wolf01> ah, no, ECS 18:55:24 <Wolf01> i want to try PBI tomorrow 18:55:39 <Wolf01> since ECS is toooooooo complex 18:58:42 <Belugas> it is a bit complex, indeed 18:58:50 <Belugas> PBI was much easier to work with 19:00:49 <Belugas> Wolf01, i know it is hard, but try to get a pattern. Like year of closing... 19:00:52 <Belugas> been servied or not 19:01:00 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:07 <Belugas> if producing, how much 19:01:09 <Belugas> since when 19:01:12 <Belugas> stuff like that 19:03:50 <Belugas> in fact, anything 19:04:30 <Belugas> it does not help when there are so many grfs loaded at once, tough 19:05:00 <Wolf01> for example my tinner industry accepted only 85t of steel, and was served for 19 years by 5 trucks of fish which carried the fish from the dock to the industry, not so well served, but at least to keep it open until the new railroad is finished 19:05:20 <Wolf01> the problem is that there is no livestock :| 19:06:02 <Wolf01> and i think that is the cause for it closing 19:07:49 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34425 lolz, try italian :D 19:11:36 *** boekabart [~bdb@ip218-114-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:12:57 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:21:24 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:24:29 <Wolf01> http://www.commutefaster.com/HCat.jpg XDDD 19:28:34 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:29 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:36:29 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-115-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:38:49 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-164.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 19:41:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 19:42:47 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-168-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:10 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:43:41 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-71.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:34 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:54:26 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:41 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CA45.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C976.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:01:33 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-164.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:06:31 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:22 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04326F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: BigBB] 20:15:28 <Bjarni> damn you guys really don't feel like talking tonight 20:15:34 <Bjarni> next person to idle will be kicked! 20:16:19 <SpComb> http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/improb/air/2006/00000012/00000005/art00006 <-- Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken. 20:16:48 * Bjarni regrets saying anything 20:17:22 <hylje> Bjarni: AAAAAAAA AAAA A AAAAAA :D 20:18:48 <SpComb> Chicken chicken chicken --> http://pub.marttila.de/r/mgAAAA 20:21:22 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:21:37 <Bjarni> o_O 20:21:56 * Bjarni really regrets saying anything 20:26:27 <ln-> YouTube link == Ban 20:26:47 <SpComb> it's not a youtube link 20:27:16 <Wolf01> XD 20:27:24 <ln-> technically not 20:28:17 <SpComb> it's hard to define exactly what a is or is not a "YouTube link", so your policy needs to be expressed more clearly 20:31:01 <ln-> any link == ban 20:32:24 <SpComb> and if one doesn't use a client that turns URLs into clickable links? 20:32:43 *** LeviathNL [~LeviathNL@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:24 *** LeviathNL [~LeviathNL@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:33:28 *** AntB_NotHere is now known as AntB 20:35:14 *** MarkSlap [~shit@81-232-62-139-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Screw you guy, I'm going home and smoke pot] 20:37:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> it does not really matter what "one" uses... it rather matters what "The Operator" uses 20:37:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> [note that capitalisation is used to support an emphasis] 20:39:10 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150043140.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 20:41:55 <Bjarni> I find it hard to locate youtube links 20:42:11 <Ailure> one question about newindustries 20:42:18 <Ailure> if two newindustries accepts the same cargo 20:42:24 <Bjarni> I find it a really tricky rule to obey and ensure that everybody obeys 20:42:26 <Ailure> is there anything that influences the priotery 20:43:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: miham * r11249 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 20:43:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-10-12 22:42:24 20:43:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: afrikaans - 110 fixed, 141 changed by TrueTenacity (251) 20:43:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 fixed by arnaullv (1) 20:43:17 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: czech - 1 fixed by Hadez (1) 20:43:19 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: french - 1 fixed by glx (1) 20:43:19 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: slovak - 1 fixed by lengyel (1) 20:43:59 <Ailure> like I want to uhm 20:44:09 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 20:45:20 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C976.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:45:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> what do you mean by priority? 20:46:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> you mean if they are in the catchment area of the same station? 20:48:22 <Ailure> well yes 20:48:32 <Ailure> like I want brickworks to take most of the gravel 20:48:45 <Ailure> but a engineers yard to take any surplus in meanwhile as I yet have to do a clay pit line D: 20:49:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, i don't think that is possible 20:50:06 <Ailure> mm understandable 20:50:28 <Ailure> well 20:50:33 <Ailure> i'm sitll cruious though 20:50:38 <Ailure> if it's divided between all industries 20:50:39 <Ailure> or heh 20:51:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> there recently was a commit about that 20:51:14 <Ailure> oh? 20:51:35 <Ailure> which one >_> 20:55:26 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:56:09 <Greyscale> I keep reading Eddi|zuHause2 as Eddi the horse 20:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> you, sir, are a sick person 20:56:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ailure: i can't find it 20:58:03 <Ailure> sure youdidn't misread anything heh 20:58:05 <Ailure> can't find it either 20:58:16 <Ailure> what was it supposed to do 20:59:07 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 20:59:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> i am pretty sure i read something about "improve the way cargo is delivered to industries if more than one is in the catchment radius of the station" 21:02:03 <Ailure> ah 21:02:04 <Ailure> ah 21:02:07 <Ailure> there's a clay pit 21:02:09 <Ailure> bloody hard to find 21:02:11 <Ailure> small as hell on map 21:02:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> there need to be filters for the industry list 21:02:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> like "show me all farms" 21:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> or "show me all industries that produce or accept coal" 21:03:06 <Ailure> someone did something like that already 21:03:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> there are filters for the vehicle lists 21:03:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> they just have to be ported 21:03:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> or the station list 21:05:07 <Ailure> I mean on the forums 21:20:04 *** Ihmemies [ihmemies@a88-113-24-180.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:20:38 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:23:13 *** julius [~julius@host-85-27-97-22.brutele.be] has joined #openttd 21:23:17 <julius> hello 21:24:55 <julius> I have a problem with the version of openttd I'm using. The airplanes and the boats are not giving money at the end of the year :/ Do you know if this problem is known and if it is solved in the recent versions of the game ? 21:25:10 <julius> I'm using openttd 0.5.3-1 21:25:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> what do you mean money at end of year? 21:25:55 <julius> hmm... (i'm not a native speaker) 21:25:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> you get money whenever you delver something, that has nothing to do with years 21:26:11 <julius> I know but I don't know how to explain it in an other way :p 21:26:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> provide a savegame? 21:26:47 <julius> When a plane lands, It shows the money it has won 21:27:04 <julius> hmmm 21:27:09 <julius> I'm going to make a screenshot I think 21:27:34 <glx> what is the color of this money? 21:29:08 <julius> wait, I've just make the screenshot, let me show you what I mean 21:34:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> gnah, i need bendy stations... 21:35:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's no way you manage to place 10 tile stations in mountaneous territory 21:36:28 <julius> http://sportchu.free.fr/linux/openttd.jpg 21:36:51 <julius> http://sportchu.free.fr/linux/openttd.png 21:36:52 <julius> sorry 21:37:24 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?281238 <-- I'm a minority :o 21:38:10 <Bjarni> julius: huh 21:38:15 <Bjarni> that looks... wrong 21:38:30 <Ailure> ...the black arrow looks like a penis 21:38:31 <Ailure> dude 21:38:34 <Bjarni> like it's in French or Italian or something 21:38:46 <Wolf01> its french 21:38:48 <Ailure> :< 21:39:12 <Bjarni> Ailure: what? 21:39:14 <julius> haha... That's an arrow, not a penis :D 21:39:23 <Bjarni> actual size? 21:39:26 <Ailure> don't use as thick pen 21:39:27 <Ailure> :p 21:39:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> julius: make sure you are not using "transfer" orders 21:39:41 <julius> that's just to show where the problem is 21:39:55 <Rafagd> Bjarni: Is Openttd imune to Chocolate bars? 21:39:57 <Rafagd> ! 21:39:58 <julius> Eddi|zuHause2, I think I am Oo What's the problem with that ? 21:40:29 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N938P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:40:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> julius: use transfer orders if you want to reroute the cargo to another station later 21:40:36 <Bjarni> julius: the transfer function is kind of... not well 21:40:42 <Bjarni> you see, it was never really finished 21:40:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> you must not use transfer at the target station 21:40:56 *** gynterk [~gynter@84-50-129-63-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has quit [] 21:41:07 <Wolf01> 'night 21:41:15 <Bjarni> Rafagd: sure 21:41:16 <julius> ok, so that was a stupid question :D thanks for your help :) 21:41:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:41:43 <Rafagd> Bjarni: lucky! 21:48:48 <dihedral> signs are not deleted when the company is removed? 21:48:54 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 21:50:10 <Bjarni> Rafagd: actually it's more like the fact that I'm incorruptible 21:50:51 <Rafagd> omg! 21:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> you say that now, wait if you hold The One Ring in your hands 21:52:05 <Bjarni> huh? 21:52:27 <Bjarni> are you saying that I will end up in a shotgun wedding or something? 21:53:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... that is not exactly what i meant... 21:53:30 <Bjarni> then you should make it more clear 21:54:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> i honestly don't know how to make LOTR references any more clear than that :p 21:54:15 <Bjarni> oh like that 21:54:23 <Bjarni> well 21:54:37 <Bjarni> you would still be unable to bribe me 21:54:39 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause2: it was clear 21:54:48 <dihedral> Bjarni: lol 21:55:27 <Bjarni> I was thinking of a wedding ring and thought about how a wedding could corrupt me... 21:55:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> julius: this is a station where you typically use "transfer" orders: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2024.%20Dez%201939.png 21:56:07 <Bjarni> LOL. For a good laugh, find some Japanese text on the internet and give it to babelfish 21:56:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> the short wood trains gather wood from the forests in the hillst 21:56:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> -t 21:56:17 <Bjarni> reading the kanji makes more sense :D 21:56:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the long trains bring the wood to the far distant saw mill 21:57:51 <julius> ok I understand, thank you very moch for the example :) 21:58:43 <julius> much* 21:59:06 <Ailure> ?????? 21:59:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> chicken chicken chicken. 21:59:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> what's that many question marks useful for? 22:00:12 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: you want to play chicken? 22:00:13 <Bjarni> ok 22:00:23 *** Eddi|zuHause2 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [You chickened out. I won] 22:00:56 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74E34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:01:01 <TrueBrain> @kick Bjarni You chickened out. I won 22:01:01 *** Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [You chickened out. I won] 22:01:01 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41604.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:01:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:01:03 <TrueBrain> I love good games :) 22:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> :p 22:01:21 <dihedral> lol 22:01:25 <Bjarni> err 22:01:35 <Bjarni> that wasn't a part of the plan 22:01:42 <TrueBrain> that is why I love it :) 22:01:45 <Rafagd> TrueBrainowned 22:02:45 <Bjarni> ouch 22:03:12 <Bjarni> I just had a burp and a hiccup at the same time :( 22:03:18 <Bjarni> damn that hurts 22:03:22 <Rafagd> :( 22:03:34 <Bjarni> never tried that before 22:03:34 <TrueBrain> MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH 22:03:49 <Bjarni> it still hurts :( 22:04:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> btw. i find it weird how the mine station has white snow shining through the ground, while the wood station has green grass in between the dirt, was that always this way or is that yet another sprite sorting issue? 22:05:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> (see picture above) 22:05:03 <Bjarni> you know it's really cruel to laugh at people getting hurt 22:05:05 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truelight * r11250 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_vehicle.cpp ai_vehicle.hpp ai_vehicle.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Fix [API CHANGE]: SkipVehicleOrder always skipped to first vehicle order.. replaced with SkipToVehicleOrder, and added a param to specify to which order it should skip (dynaxo) 22:05:22 <Bjarni> who is dynaxo? 22:08:38 <Phazorx> that's nice... you dont know your developerS? 22:08:50 *** FlowaPowa [~Flowa@4va54-4-82-244-103-144.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: FlowaPowa] 22:08:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> so... now i have a brand new shiny valley track, and i can't use a BR 05 on it, because of the previously mentioned problem... 22:09:41 <Bjarni> <Phazorx> that's nice... you dont know your developerS? <-- I'm asking because AFAIK it's the first time he shows up in the commit log and I haven't seen that nick elsewhere 22:10:14 <Phazorx> Bjarni: i got the idea, just sounds kinda inetresting that he is a dev, and not familar to you 22:11:05 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> nobody says he's a dev 22:12:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> he's just someone who either provided a patch, or the idea for a patch, or a bug report 22:12:39 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: if the name is added like (name), he created the patch 22:12:45 <TrueBrain> else it is: bug by <name> 22:12:52 <TrueBrain> based on patch by <name> 22:12:55 <TrueBrain> or something :p 22:13:38 <TrueBrain> and Bjarni, if you care that much, you might want to read the topic related to the branch, might clear it up ;) 22:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> errr... the loading of steel is totally messed up... 22:16:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's like invoking the random trigger for the type of steel each time... 22:18:50 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-138-70-9.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:18:54 <blathijs> Bjarni: I haven't heard of the guy before either :-) 22:19:35 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 22:19:44 <TrueBrain> nobody has :) 22:23:09 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl5402B3E5.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26:37 *** julius [~julius@host-85-27-97-22.brutele.be] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 22:36:09 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-084-058-006-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:10 <dihedral> does anybody know of a map set replacement grf to make a night game 22:40:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> there was a TTRS night version 22:40:44 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm tanker wagon is refittable to tourists 22:40:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think 22:43:01 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-008-247.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:10 <Bjarni> Gonozal_VIII: sounds like budget seats :D 22:43:26 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 22:44:04 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has joined #openttd 22:44:48 <Ammler> Gonozal_VIII: DBSetXL has also a new ECS support 22:45:05 <Ammler> check www.ttdpatch.de for the grf 22:45:06 <Gonozal_VIII> nice :-) 22:45:42 <Ammler> its called something like dbxl_ecs.grf 22:46:38 <Gonozal_VIII> thanks 22:48:21 *** kaan [~klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 22:48:28 <kaan> evening all :) 22:49:09 <dihedral> hmm... not as promising as i thought it might be 22:49:14 *** bruce89 [~bruce@85-210-39-43.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:41 <bruce89> who maintains the wiki? 22:49:53 <bruce89> MiHaMiX: see http://wiki.openttd.com/index.php/Talk:Headquarters 22:50:44 <dihedral> who maintaines wikipedia.org? 22:51:21 <bruce89> why would I ask that in the OSM IRC channel? 22:51:35 <bruce89> sorry, OpenTTD 22:52:05 <dihedral> nvm - me is tired 22:52:12 <dihedral> and sleepy 22:52:14 <dihedral> woozy 22:52:21 <dihedral> need.... 22:52:23 <dihedral> ... 22:52:26 <dihedral> ...bed 22:52:34 * bruce89 sends a bed 22:53:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> /dcc dihedral send bed 22:53:08 <dihedral> wow - where did that all of a sudden come from? 22:53:29 <bruce89> it's the wonders of IRC and a load of wires 22:53:43 <dihedral> wi...zzzzz 22:54:08 <dihedral> i hate experiencing the laws of gravity with my eyelids 22:54:21 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 22:54:22 <bruce89> that's usually bad news 22:55:59 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:03 *** LeviathNL [~LeviathNL@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm. all the high speed engines can't pull tourist wagons, that's quite a limitation... 22:58:53 <glx> touristic trains are usually slow :) 22:59:12 <dihedral> for the sight seeing :-D 22:59:31 <bruce89> MiHaMiX: the <gallery> tag doesn't work 22:59:31 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 22:59:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, tourists usually want to get to the target fast, to do sight seeing there 23:00:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:01:32 <dihedral> whats you point Eddi|zuHause2 :-P 23:01:44 <Ammler> worker is a cool New Industrie Idea: http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/attachment.php?aid=440 23:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> · <- i thought we covered that yesterday 23:02:39 <Gonozal_VIII> ice and transrapid can 23:02:39 <bruce89> which yesterday? 23:03:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: no, the ICE-3 (engine) can be refitted to tourists, but it cannot carry additional tourist wagons 23:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ammler: as long as it produces the same amount of workers it consumes :p 23:05:04 <Gonozal_VIII> passenger coach (main line) 23:05:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: did you actually read? 23:05:54 <Gonozal_VIII> 160 km/h... 23:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Einige der im DB Set XL 0.82 enthaltenen Lokomotiven beschrÀnken den Typ bzw die Frachtart der anzuhÀngenden Wagen, zB auf Passagiere (PASS) und/oder Post (MAIL). Folgende Loks können daher keine auf Touristen (TOUR) umgerÃŒsteten Wagen anhÀngen: BR18, BR05, VT08, VT11.5, ICE-TD, BR515, BR110, BR112, BR103, BR111, ICE-1, sowie der ICE-3." 23:06:41 <Gonozal_VIII> also ich hab hier nen touristen ice3 mit touristenwaggons 23:07:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe that only applies to attaching wagons, not refitting attached wagons 23:07:50 <Gonozal_VIII> you can't refit wagons that are not attached... 23:08:08 <Gonozal_VIII> aaah 23:08:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> but you can remove them from one engine, and put them on another 23:08:14 <Gonozal_VIII> right... 23:08:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> or replace the engine 23:08:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> or things... 23:08:49 <Gonozal_VIII> but that doesn't make much sense 23:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> why? say you have a running tourist train with BR 01, and get a new BR 05, then you want to (auto)replace the BR 01 to BR 05, which fails, because the wagons cannot be attached 23:10:54 <Gonozal_VIII> i can refit to passengers first, upgrade and refit back... 23:11:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but not "auto" 23:11:12 <Gonozal_VIII> so it's only annoying 23:11:29 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:11:30 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41604.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12:56 <Gonozal_VIII> but i don't care much, wagon speed limits are on 23:16:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> BR 05 has an override for the wagon speed 23:17:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, almost all fast engines have 23:18:25 <Gonozal_VIII> O_o 23:19:24 <Gonozal_VIII> <-- stupid 23:19:57 * TrueBrain agrees 23:20:04 <Gonozal_VIII> thx 23:20:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> very hard to disagree ;) 23:20:07 <TrueBrain> :p 23:23:30 <Gonozal_VIII> cement works can only be built in rainforest areas? 23:25:08 <Gonozal_VIII> there is no rainforest in temperate 23:31:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-145-161.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:33:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, it's so typical... one deadlock causes the next deadlock, causes the next deadlock, causes the next deadlock, ... 23:35:38 <Gonozal_VIII> how did you manage to get so many deadlocks? 23:37:08 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37:20 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-16.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 23:38:09 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04235A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:41:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> technically, i have only one deadlock at the same time 23:41:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> but resolving one deadlock put so much load on the next section, that it locks 23:42:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> where it would not lock under normal trafficc 23:42:10 <Gonozal_VIII> depots with exit signals are good to prevent jams from spreading 23:42:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the next deadlock was caused because all ore trains got stuck in the previous deadlock, so the station filled up with empty steel trains 23:44:01 <Gonozal_VIII> ok, that's bad 23:44:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> the initial deadlock was a circular crossing between trains 23:45:20 <Gonozal_VIII> seperate the loading and unloading track earlier and add a waiting depot to the steel side... 23:45:27 <Belugas> Gonozal_VIII, the cement works is what i try to fix right now 23:45:32 <Belugas> it can be anything 23:45:41 <Belugas> so... patience :) 23:45:42 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-234.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:45:45 <Gonozal_VIII> ok 23:46:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> weird callback results might be loosely related to my BR 05 and my ore wagon issue 23:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: it's normally not needed, the track is so long, that the 5 steel trains hardly ever meet at the station 23:48:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> just when the stream of ore trains stops, they pile up 23:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i don't have the space for separate stations 23:49:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> grr... this random trigger annoys me... 23:49:50 <Gonozal_VIII> random trigger? 23:50:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's like it's triggering the random steel graphics each time it is attempting to load 23:50:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> instead of when it is loading the first item 23:50:29 *** toresbe [~toresbe@89.10.27.159] has left #openttd []