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Log for #openttd on 22nd February 2008:
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00:04:18  <Sacro> Why does the French flag have Velcro?
00:04:18  <Sacro> So the blue and red sections are easily removed during a time of war.	I like this!
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00:12:59  * Nemesis is ogg to bed
00:13:02  <Nemesis> nn
00:13:28  <glx> Sacro: lol
00:13:29  <Morlot1> nn
00:14:09  <Sacro> right, i'm just gonna ask this anyway
00:14:16  <Sacro> someone from England = English
00:14:19  <Sacro> France = French
00:14:22  <Sacro> Germany = German
00:14:25  <Sacro> Belgium... ?
00:14:31  <glx> Belgian
00:14:34  <Sacro> oh...
00:14:36  <Sacro> silly me
00:14:40  <Sacro> now i feel stupid :(
00:14:47  <Sacro> I had Belgiumina
00:14:49  <Sacro> *Belgiumian
00:14:53  <Sacro> but that didn't sound right
00:15:09  <Gonozal_VIII> belgish^^
00:15:22  <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: that was another thought
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00:20:12  <Eddi|zuHause2> "Der Dicke und der Beliger"
00:20:33  <Eddi|zuHause2> [that was an old comedy show in germany]
00:25:21  <ln-> someone from United States = Unitedstatesian
00:26:14  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r12211 /branches/noai/ (187 files in 15 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r12050:12209
00:29:38  <Eddi|zuHause2> this is weird... i can not remember these monkey island 2 songs he plays...
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00:29:41  <Ammler> good night all
00:31:54  <SmatZ> good night Ammler
00:33:05  <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't think i spent more time playing 1 than 2
00:33:16  <Eddi|zuHause2> why do i remember the songs from 1 better?
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01:14:06  <ln-> gaaah, the whole season 3 of House M.D. would be available, but dubbed in german.
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01:14:54  <Gonozal_VIII> so?
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01:15:59  <glx> it started 4 weeks ago here
01:17:55  <ln-> we only finished season 2 today.
01:18:18  <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: who would want to watch House M.D. in german?
01:18:33  <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm me?^^
01:19:15  <ln-> why?
01:19:17  <Gonozal_VIII> but yes... dub often sucks, i prefer the original too
01:20:54  <Eddi|zuHause2> so get it in dual lang ;)
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01:23:23  <ln-> bah, i'm getting season 4 instead.
01:24:16  <ln-> ... with swedish subtitles. what kind of a sick joke is that.
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01:35:58  <Eddi|zuHause3> you are totally doing this the wrong way
01:38:16  <ln-> well, downloading at 1 MB/s, can't be totally wrong.
01:39:42  <Gonozal_VIII> clicking on something and it starts playing is the right way :-)
01:40:43  <ln-> with some plugin (that i don't have) exactly that would happen. but i prefer downloading.
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01:57:30  <SpComb> hrmph, seems I've run into a glibc bug
01:57:39  <cfaf> !password
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01:57:47  <SpComb> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1774 <-- similar to that
01:58:51  <Belugas> cfaf, you're on the wrong channel
01:59:29  <glx> Belugas: too late :)
01:59:50  <Belugas> lol!
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02:19:06  <SpComb> meh
02:19:26  * SpComb reworked the gamelist more or less entirely so that a given server can have more than one address
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03:04:27  <SpComb> and it works \o/
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05:07:46  <Eddi|zuHause3> i do absolutely not understand sourceforge...
05:08:29  <Eddi|zuHause3> i keep clicking on "download", and it gets me to another page saying "you may want to read release notes before downloading"
05:13:24  <Eddi|zuHause3> i am too intelligent for this... please, someone help me...
05:13:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> like if i am on this page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=40789
05:13:37  <Eddi|zuHause3> how do i get the file?
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05:35:48  <DaleStan> Eddi|zuHause3: "Below is a list of files contained in this release." Look at the mentioned "below", and select the desired file.
05:36:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> DaleStan: i clicked everywhere there... it doesn't download
05:36:53  <Eddi|zuHause3> it only goes to the release notes, which appear to be empty
05:37:41  <DaleStan> And what happens when you click on the filename?
05:38:28  <Eddi|zuHause3> see last line
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05:40:42  <DaleStan> Well, then, I can't help you. When I click on the filename, I get the file.
05:42:29  <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, the page works a whole lot better in firefox...
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10:12:31  <barv> Hi there, I compiled the latest version of chrisin(http://www.christophsackl.com/openttd/public/ChrisIN/src/) with 1 extra patch. I can run the game but it shows a lot of question marks on screen(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8549/ttdscba7.png). I'm almost certain it has something to do with GRF's(gfxinit.cpp?). Can anyone help me out here?
10:14:08  <Ammller> barv: on his forum thread, you will find a "good" manual how to compile etc. and maybe there are also the missing GRFs to download.
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10:15:32  <Ammller> some don't provide you with all missing file, they expect you to download first a usual release or nightly first.
10:16:13  <Ammller> and overwrite that with the IN
10:16:32  <barv> Hmm I'll try that then
10:16:47  <Ammller> check his thread, its written there...
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11:31:39  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
11:31:39  <peter1138> !logs
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11:43:29  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12212 /branches/noai/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIEngine::GetMaxAge, AIEngine::GetRunningCost and AIVehicle::GetRunningCost (Morloth)
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11:45:35  <Sacro> zomg truebrain
11:47:01  <Gonozal_VIII> :O truelight committing stuff again
11:47:16  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12213 /branches/noai/ (bin/ai/regression/regression.txt src/ai/api/ai_engine.cpp): [NoAI] -Fix: internal speeds for RoadVehicles and Ships are multiplied with 2 (Morloth)
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11:54:47  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12214 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_tile.cpp ai_tile.hpp): [NoAI] -Fix: 'rad' -> 'radius' for consistancy reasons
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12:08:27  <Ammller> Hmm, I am not able to compile yapp 4.3 on linux, is there something known about that?
12:09:03  <Ammller> Errormsg: http://paste.openttd.org/632
12:09:38  <Ammller> svn up -r12187
12:09:53  <Ammller> and patch with svn diff
12:10:26  <Ammller> from: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=665843#p665843
12:13:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12215 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (12 files):
12:13:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Codechange: added '::' if a function comes from non-AI-API functions (was inconsistant till now)
12:13:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Codechange: removed AIOrder:: if we are in AIOrder class (and so for all other classes)
12:14:29  <Ammller> omg Truebrain!
12:14:52  <Ammller> @seen Truebrain
12:14:52  <DorpsGek> Ammller: Truebrain was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <TrueBrain> night :)
12:14:55  <bane> hes not here
12:15:15  <Ammller> hehe
12:15:45  <bane> hes commiting for morloth and helping out getting AI-dev to get on.
12:17:00  <Ammller> [12:46] <Sacro> zomg truebrain <-- I am not the first who is suprised :)
12:30:31  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12216 /branches/noai/ (38 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Codechange: made most functions 'static', which removes the need to create an instance to get, for example, engine information, and therefor heavily simplifying AI creation (Morloth)
12:33:28  <Brianetta> OMG signals
12:33:30  <Brianetta> OMG trains
12:33:36  <Brianetta> OMG cute little bridges
12:33:44  <Gonozal_VIII> ?
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12:38:41  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12217 /branches/noai/bin/ai/wrightai/main.nut: [NoAI] -Change: changed wrightAI to reflect the last codechange
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13:09:49  <Ammller> nobody here, who can help me with compiling on a linux system?
13:09:55  <Ammller> http://paste.openttd.org/632
13:10:06  <Ammller> v4 of PBS patch
13:10:21  <Ammller> (windows worked fine)
13:10:45  <Ammller> and I compiled many times with success, btw. :)
13:12:40  <peter1138> delete src/pbs.* before patching
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13:22:12  <LordAzamath> hello
13:24:21  <Ammller> peter1138: svn revert . -R won't do that?
13:24:39  <peter1138> no
13:24:48  <peter1138> that only reverts files in svn
13:24:49  <Ammller> ah, thank you
13:31:30  <yzaLyzarC> I want an AI that can earn more than 1$
13:32:21  <yzaLyzarC> Is there a such thing?
13:32:24  <LordAzamath> make a new AI then...
13:34:16  <yzaLyzarC> LordAzamI activated alpha Ai
13:34:28  <yzaLyzarC> Instanly it got an company value of 55000
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14:20:14  <LordAzamath>  //SkipIF: Jumping to label 0x1 at line 1160, test was true
14:20:36  <LordAzamath>  //SkipIF: Not skipping sprites, test was false
14:20:42  <LordAzamath> and it just loooooops
14:20:43  <LordAzamath> it
14:20:54  <LordAzamath> and hangs
14:21:07  <LordAzamath> I got it when I started with debug 2
14:21:09  <Gonozal_VIII> that's what you get from your label stuff :P
14:21:21  <LordAzamath> one grf indeed
14:21:28  <LordAzamath> but it worked before...
14:22:03  <LordAzamath> I added these lines to end with renuming afterwards:  1298 * 5  0A 01 01 B5 02 1299 sprites/buoy.pcx 66 8 09 20 11 6 0
14:22:12  <LordAzamath> and it doesn't work
14:22:16  <LordAzamath> anymore
14:22:36  <Gonozal_VIII> ... you jump from 12xx to 1160...
14:22:49  <LordAzamath> ?
14:22:51  <LordAzamath> how
14:22:55  <LordAzamath> why?
14:23:00  <Gonozal_VIII> then you don't change the jump condition, right?
14:23:04  <LordAzamath> no
14:23:09  <Gonozal_VIII> :-)
14:23:12  <LordAzamath> only two more sprites..
14:23:26  <LordAzamath> wait a mom..
14:23:36  <Gonozal_VIII> can't just jump back without changing the condition
14:24:13  <Gonozal_VIII> shouldn't jump back ever...
14:26:16  <LordAzamath> why does it jump back?
14:26:36  <LordAzamath> hmm.. I found one another thing.. another addition was causing trouble..
14:26:38  <Gonozal_VIII> because you jump from 12xx to 11xx? :S
14:27:02  <LordAzamath> why does it jump from 12xx to11xx?
14:27:18  <Gonozal_VIII> because you told it to?
14:27:29  <LordAzamath> aghh.. no
14:27:32  <LordAzamath> I didn't tell
14:27:44  <Gonozal_VIII> hmm
14:28:16  <LordAzamath> I just added signals grf to infrastructure, (I found out buoy wasn't causing trouble)
14:28:21  <LordAzamath> and this is what I got
14:30:00  <LordAzamath> ok.. I removed signals, everything ok
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14:33:21  <LordAzamath> ok now problem solved
14:33:32  <LordAzamath> :)
14:34:40  <Ed_> can anybody recommend some nice grf files?
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14:52:15  <Ammller> LordAzamath: how is readme going :)
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14:52:33  <LordAzamath> readme is finished
14:52:43  <LordAzamath> I'm updating grfs
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14:52:53  <LordAzamath> so you could have the latest things
14:53:07  <LordAzamath> avilable atm..
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14:54:14  <fjb> Hello
14:57:43  <tokai> olleh
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15:15:12  <SpComb> connum == that rabbit person?
15:15:41  <SpComb> hmm, apaprently not
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15:19:43  <Reklamiarz> http://chathq.ath.cx/ Join best chat community and have fun with US!
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15:52:01  <LordAzamath> Ammller: You here=
15:52:05  <LordAzamath> ?*
15:52:17  <Ammller> yes, I am
15:52:59  <LordAzamath> check the first post of the replacement project thread :)
15:53:14  <LordAzamath> something for you there too :)
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15:54:49  <Ammller> LordAzamath: you are my friend, thanks :)
15:55:01  <LordAzamath> I know I am :)
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15:58:08  <LordAzamath> so for everybody else too: OpenGFX newIndustries 0.5 and new Infrastructure 0.4 are out. Also an archive which has all big packs downloadable at the same time :) http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35310
15:58:48  <Gonozal_VIII> how much is still missing now anyways?
15:59:18  <LordAzamath> tbh I have no idea
15:59:29  <LordAzamath> I haven't counted the sprites
16:00:20  <LordAzamath> infrastructure lacks bridges and stations for toyland, docks, monorail/maglev/rail depots
16:00:34  <LordAzamath> bridges (space) and sta..*
16:01:20  <LordAzamath> Almost all GUI, although it's starting to develop already, is missing
16:01:51  <LordAzamath> vehicles..
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16:01:59  <LordAzamath> houses..
16:02:01  <LordAzamath> etc.
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16:02:22  <Ammller> LordAzamath: a paste thing of the files for [newgrf-static] would be nice
16:02:27  <Ammller> in the readme
16:03:16  <Ammller> oh, and maybe you should make a zip instead of gz, not sure about our windows users...
16:05:33  <LordAzamath> aeh.. ok, wait a sec
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16:10:23  <LordAzamath> a second has passed now
16:10:26  <LordAzamath> and it's doen
16:10:29  <LordAzamath> done*
16:12:17  <Ammller> LordAzamath: 1k*thanks
16:12:39  <fjb> LordAzamath: Great work.
16:13:08  <LordAzamath> Ammller: I'm your friend :)
16:13:25  <fjb> LordAzamath: I found a typo in the first posting of thatbthread: "Right no we have a small amount of work already done. " Should be "now" instaed of "no".
16:13:39  <Ammller> yeah, I have much luck about that :)
16:14:22  <LordAzamath> aghhh... fjb: If you start counting the typos, I'll consider more if I'll be your friend too :D:D
16:14:24  <LordAzamath> ^^
16:14:31  <LordAzamath> thanks for notifying
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16:15:28  <fjb> Usually I don't care about typos, but that one was kind of funny.
16:15:53  <LordAzamath> available is correct too? (not avilable)
16:16:13  <Ammller> ini: error in array 'OpenGFX_pack_v0.0.1/OpenGFX_-_newFonts_-_Small'
16:16:13  <Ammller> ini: ignoring invalid NewGRF 'OpenGFX_pack_v0.0.1/OpenGFX_-_newFonts_-_Small': not fou              nd
16:16:13  <Ammller> ini: ignoring invalid NewGRF 'OpenGFX_pack_v0.0.1/OpenGFX_-_newlandscape_v0.3.grf': un              safe for static use
16:16:37  <LordAzamath> aghhhhhhhhhhhh
16:16:49  <Ammller> :o
16:16:50  <Sacro> saviour of the universe?
16:17:06  <Ammller> :)
16:17:29  <fjb> As long as Sacro is not the universe...
16:17:37  <Sacro> and the lecturer is offtopic already :(
16:18:34  <LordAzamath> erm.. small fonts had a typo at it's filename.. There was a space
16:18:49  <LordAzamath> Please you can fix it locally, I'll reupload it
16:18:58  <Ammller> and landscape is because of newwater?
16:19:03  <LordAzamath> I'll look at newlandscpae
16:19:23  <LordAzamath> erm.. I thought terrain has newWater
16:19:29  <Ammller> yep, sorry
16:19:44  <Ammller> that works well as static
16:20:55  <Ammller> farms looks a little bit dark...
16:21:48  <LordAzamath> that's not my fault :D
16:22:02  <LordAzamath> and first post is updated
16:22:04  <LordAzamath> again
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16:22:11  <Ammller> oh, what have I done wrong, then?
16:22:19  <Ammller> :P
16:25:34  <LordAzamath> Ammller: I think that rivers is the problem with landscape grf...
16:25:52  <LordAzamath> It uses actions 1, 2, 3
16:26:46  <Ammller> oh, rivers is built in?
16:27:03  <LordAzamath> yes
16:27:44  <LordAzamath> So you can use it in... oscq for example
16:28:20  <LordAzamath> btw, when you load grfs with static on a server, does it force everybody to use them?
16:28:35  <Ammller> we never did it
16:28:49  <Ammller> but I guess, not
16:29:05  <LordAzamath> but why do you want them static then?
16:29:16  <Ammller> does it make sence to load a grf in static
16:29:23  <LordAzamath> nope
16:29:26  <LordAzamath> not for mp
16:29:41  <Ammller> I like to have them static to join a server without that grf loaded
16:29:45  <LordAzamath> aah
16:29:51  <LordAzamath> as do I :)
16:29:56  <Ammller> exactly
16:30:06  <Ammller> we will load them on next MP game
16:30:11  <LordAzamath> but for servers, static is pointless, yes?
16:30:22  <Ammller> to "force" our players to test them :)
16:30:31  <LordAzamath> yeah
16:30:55  <LordAzamath> btw, about that invisible train..
16:31:02  <Ammller> LordAzamath: I would say so, yes, but you need a more experienced voice for that :)
16:31:18  <Ammller> already in the pack
16:31:42  <LordAzamath> when dragging at depot window, the cursor dissappears, because it should grab the wagon/engine and show that as a cursor..
16:31:57  <Ammller> oh :)
16:32:13  <Ammller> Bernhard took a waggon as engine to make that effect
16:32:16  <LordAzamath> so if you want to move train engine, you have nothing but memory to get the location of it :P
16:32:27  <Ammller> and it changes to a tractor in other view
16:32:56  <LordAzamath> but then I couldn't give you the _ view...
16:32:58  <Ammller> the power of that engine is least
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16:33:13  <LordAzamath> or you would get a tractor in _ view
16:33:21  <LordAzamath> ^^
16:33:28  <Ammller> it tooks time to see the waggons leave the depot
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16:33:53  <LordAzamath> I made the power/speed so low, so you can align it percisely
16:34:10  <Ammller> hmm, did you test it with other sets?
16:34:20  <LordAzamath> no
16:34:29  <Ammller> I am not sure about that, if you have many trains, it could take long to stop
16:34:42  <Ammller> I don't thing the speed needs to be high
16:34:46  <Ammller> put the power
16:34:49  <Ammller> but
16:35:14  <LordAzamath> when the speed is 19km/h it should stop instantly, shouldn't it? :O
16:35:20  <Sacro> http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/431763/teenage-pregnancy-implementation-manager
16:35:32  <Ammller> yeah, I need to test that, not sure about
16:35:37  <Ammller> ok, need to go
16:35:43  <Ammller> be back in some time
16:35:56  <LordAzamath> bye
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16:36:11  <Gonozal_VIII> people get paid to get teenagers pregnant?
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16:46:41  <Gonozal_VIII> look, strangeip!
16:47:14  <|Jeroen|> it aint strage, its just an ipv6 ip
16:47:25  <Gonozal_VIII> i know, that's strange^^
16:47:25  <|Jeroen|> its the future
16:47:57  <Belugas> the futur is here!
16:48:09  <LordAzamath> look! strangeBel[tab]
16:48:27  <LordAzamath> hello Belugas btw
16:48:59  <Belugas> blub blub blub
16:49:38  <LordAzamath> oh.. That was the strange part? hmm.. now should come the Bel[tab] part :P
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17:34:27  <peter1138> home
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17:48:13  <LordAzamath> Ühinesid kanaliga #openttf 19:47:24solenoid.oftc.net mÀÀras reÅŸiimi +nt kanalil #openttf
17:48:18  <LordAzamath> :P
17:50:19  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
17:50:19  <SmatZ> !logs
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17:55:04  <Wolf01> hello
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18:35:51  <LordAzamath> could anybody be so pleasant and comment on this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=667279#p667279 ?
18:36:09  <Gonozal_VIII> never!
18:36:14  <LordAzamath> :(
18:36:44  <LordAzamath> maybe I should just drop the whole project though...
18:36:57  <LordAzamath> Takes too much time etc.
18:36:59  <Gonozal_VIII> that was a joke :P
18:37:03  <LordAzamath> I know :P
18:37:06  <LordAzamath> mine too
18:37:47  <Gonozal_VIII> are those real screenshots?
18:38:01  <LordAzamath> what do you mean by real?
18:38:18  <Gonozal_VIII> coded, ingame and such
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18:38:37  <LordAzamath> not well... I have temperate coded
18:38:42  <LordAzamath> now*
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18:38:58  <LordAzamath> and it's incredible easy to extend it to others
18:39:03  <LordAzamath> and palette is right
18:39:18  <Gonozal_VIII> :-)
18:39:26  <LordAzamath> actually even that png there is indexed in right palette :P
18:39:52  <LordAzamath> but what do you think?
18:40:00  <LordAzamath> is now listening to: "Where You End" by "Moby" on "Hotel"
18:40:11  <Gonozal_VIII> ?
18:40:30  <LordAzamath> ahh.. that was /media order :P
18:40:41  <LordAzamath> is now listening to: "Where You End" by "Moby" on "Hotel"
18:40:45  <LordAzamath> :P
18:40:56  <glx> it should use /me
18:41:04  <LordAzamath> I couldn't get it to work with /me
18:41:14  <Gonozal_VIII> just write /me in front of it...
18:41:19  <LordAzamath> /me is now listening to: "Where You End" by "Moby" on "Hotel"
18:41:20  <LordAzamath> :P
18:41:25  * Belugas is still hooked on RadioHead
18:41:30  <Gonozal_VIII> colourcodes?
18:41:35  <Belugas> there
18:41:35  <LordAzamath> It won't work
18:42:05  <LordAzamath> I dunno, maybe it's fault of Kopete
18:42:19  <LordAzamath>  is now listening to: "Daylight" by "Coldplay" on "A rush of blood to the head"
18:42:40  <glx> anyway we don't like these scripts here :)
18:42:53  <LordAzamath> hehe.. it's not automatic :P
18:43:05  <LordAzamath> Just when I type /media
18:43:07  <LordAzamath> :P
18:43:08  <Gonozal_VIII> so because you did it so often now, you'll get permbanned :-)
18:43:14  <LordAzamath> :O
18:43:42  <LordAzamath> .. or not
18:44:54  <LordAzamath> who wants to get op?
18:45:02  <glx> @op
18:45:07  <LordAzamath> I can make you all..if you join #openttf :P
18:45:48  <glx> @op
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18:45:52  <glx> better :)
18:46:00  <glx> @deop
18:46:03  *** mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek
18:46:10  <LordAzamath> why are you voice?
18:46:35  <glx> because voice is enough
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18:47:04  <LordAzamath> Smat Z just got deopped at #openttf :P
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18:51:03  <LordAzamath> hmm.. and quite quietly you all succeeded not saying anything about this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=667279#p667279 :|
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18:55:03  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
18:55:03  <LA[quite|quiet]> !logs
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18:57:53  <Belugas> Hooooo.... LA[quite|quiet], nice
18:58:01  * Belugas goes into quieteness
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19:02:43  <P00_22> hello.. i need help with ttd
19:03:10  <P00_22> it also happens to be my first time using irc...
19:03:17  <Sacro> evening :)
19:04:27  <P00_22> anyways, when i started playing, i followed the tutorial and built some rial roads. then i restarted the game and now there is no dialogue box for the trains when i click the icon.. so ya, i can't build trains
19:04:44  <P00_22>  :(
19:04:54  <Gonozal_VIII> depot
19:05:26  <P00_22> can't build that either, theres no menu!!
19:05:45  <P00_22> like on teh top toolbar, when i click the railroad nothing pops up..
19:06:01  <Gonozal_VIII> what year?
19:06:23  <P00_22> how to check?
19:06:32  <Gonozal_VIII> look down...
19:06:41  <P00_22> 1900
19:06:41  <Gonozal_VIII> may be to early for trains
19:06:45  <Gonozal_VIII> it is^^
19:06:47  <P00_22> oh...
19:06:53  <P00_22> wow, ok thx.
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19:14:23  * Gonozal_VIII was useful
19:14:25  <Gonozal_VIII> !
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19:18:01  <peter1138> But now that you've been used, we may now throw you into outer space.
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19:21:00  * Gonozal_VIII floats around in nothingness.. bored
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19:27:08  <LA[quite|quiet]> Gonozal_VIII: You're bored? Tell me something about this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35310&p=667279#p667279
19:27:19  <LA[quite|quiet]> I now coded them :) and added WIP tropical too
19:27:30  <Gonozal_VIII> no forum here in space :P
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19:27:51  <Sacro> anyone wanting to buy some music? http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Worlds-Greatest-Music-Collection_W0QQitemZ140206309501QQihZ004QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
19:28:14  <LA[quite|quiet]> You are next to alt or alt-gr, Gonozal_VIII?
19:28:35  <Gonozal_VIII> both!
19:29:03  <LA[quite|quiet]> come ooooonnn..
19:29:16  <LA[quite|quiet]> comment or I won't be quite quiet anymore
19:29:26  <LA[quite|quiet]> ^^
19:30:05  <Gonozal_VIII> 3 million dollar for music O_o
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19:37:59  <LA[quite|ignored]> ok.. I go now..
19:38:12  <LA[quite|ignored]> maybe to sleep..
19:38:15  <LA[quite|ignored]> ^^
19:38:21  <LA[quite|ignored]> good night anyway
19:38:22  <Gonozal_VIII> poor guy
19:38:26  <LA[quite|ignored]> ?
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19:51:20  <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni!
19:51:54  <Bjarni> hi Gonozal_VIII
19:51:58  <Bjarni> what's up?
19:52:04  <Bjarni> besides your script?
19:52:11  <Gonozal_VIII> what script?
19:52:33  <Bjarni> the greeting one
19:52:42  <Gonozal_VIII> what greeting one?
19:52:54  <Bjarni>  <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni! <-- that one
19:53:10  <Gonozal_VIII> notscript
19:53:15  <Bjarni> ...
19:53:18  <Bjarni> get a life
19:53:48  <Bjarni> you really mean that you sit around waiting for me to show up?
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19:54:43  <Gonozal_VIII> nope, i just type bjarni!
19:55:04  <Bjarni> ok
19:55:07  <Gonozal_VIII> you just happen to join right before that all the time
19:55:19  <Bjarni> you sit around on IRC waiting for me to show up so you can write "bjarni!"
19:55:19  <Gonozal_VIII> totally coincidential
19:56:29  <Gonozal_VIII> nah, i'm watching videos and irc is open next to it
19:57:05  <Gonozal_VIII> i was even helpful earlier!
19:57:23  <Bjarni> you watch porn so you have a boner when you see me???
19:57:57  <Gonozal_VIII> why would i need porn for that? :P
19:58:04  <Bjarni> >_<
19:58:12  <Bjarni> I don't know you anymore
19:58:55  <Gonozal_VIII> don't ask such questions if you don't want such answers :P
19:58:56  <Bjarni> you know I bet there is a name in latin for a guy who falls in love with another guy's name
19:59:19  <Bjarni> not the person but the name
19:59:28  <Gonozal_VIII> those latinians must be really strange people
19:59:32  <peter1138> bjarniphilia
19:59:48  <Bjarni> ...
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20:00:13  <Bjarni> Gonozal_VIII: Freud could spent ages studying you
20:00:26  <Bjarni> too bad he is dead by now
20:00:43  <Bjarni> peter1138: that makes no sense as a general term
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20:07:39  <ben_goodger> that would probably be "nomenclatadamor"
20:08:10  <Bjarni> :/
20:08:28  <Bjarni> it would have been better if I knew how to say that
20:08:46  <Bjarni> now I need to open a text file to look up what to call Gonozal_VIII
20:08:57  <Gonozal_VIII> :P
20:15:19  <Ammller> Gonozal_VIII: is there a thread or other place, where I could speak with the creator of the patch "stop in middle of station"?
20:15:36  <Ammller> you linked directly to the diff
20:15:41  <Gonozal_VIII> indeed there is
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20:16:06  <Gonozal_VIII> a secret irc channel on the hidden oftc network called #openttd
20:16:15  <Ammller> :-)
20:16:29  <Ammller> means, no Thread about that patch?
20:17:01  <Gonozal_VIII> the creator usually goes by the name Eddi|zuHause[somenumber]
20:17:14  <Ammller> aha
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20:18:32  <Ammller> help
20:18:40  <Gonozal_VIII> ?
20:20:29  <Ammller> :) Now, I know, how the spamer this evening did bring his msg around
20:21:36  <SpComb> his amsg
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20:22:17  <SpComb> bjarni!
20:26:18  <Bjarni> who?
20:26:38  <Bjarni> and why?
20:26:47  <Bjarni> not to mention: what?
20:28:01  <peter1138> where, when and how?
20:28:04  <peter1138> wherefore!
20:28:11  <Bjarni> I am
20:29:23  <peter1138> hmm?
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20:35:06  <Wolf01> gaaaah
20:35:19  <Wolf01> bbl
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20:36:01  <Belugas> # Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
20:36:08  <Belugas> # Send my subscription to the House of Detention
20:36:25  <Belugas> # I've got some Friiiiiiends insideeeeeeeeeee
20:36:37  <Gonozal_VIII> you ate your friends?
20:36:53  <Belugas> # the face in the mirror won't stop
20:37:03  <Belugas> # the gils in the window wont dtrop
20:37:19  <Gonozal_VIII> belugas is broken again...
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20:38:11  * Belugas is listening to The Doors - When the Music's Over
20:38:17  <Belugas> and he flyes high
20:38:25  <Belugas> flies
20:38:27  <Belugas> files
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20:44:15  <Belugas> # music ios your only friend
20:44:22  <Belugas> # until the end!
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20:47:12  <Belugas> o_O
20:47:22  <Belugas> contacting my customer for an info
20:47:32  <Belugas> "Call back, he's praying"
20:47:48  <Belugas> Hallah hacba
20:48:00  <Belugas> or whatever how it's written
20:48:20  <Eddi|zuHause3> <Ammller> Gonozal_VIII: is there a thread or other place, where I could speak with the creator of the patch "stop in middle of station"? <- what exactly is up?
20:48:53  <Gonozal_VIII> ammler wrote something in my patchpack topic
20:49:13  <Eddi|zuHause3> and do i have to search that link by myself now?
20:49:22  <Ammller> Eddi|zuHause3: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=667141#p667141
20:49:32  <Ammller> of course, not :)
20:50:03  <Ammller> also the suggestion of the following post is interesting...
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20:52:10  <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i thought about both of that, but it'd make the patch several magnitudes more complicate
20:52:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> d
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20:54:31  <Ammller> Eddi|zuHause3: but if it would stop on terminus at the end, it would be "trunkish", I assume
20:56:10  <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, but you need a function to check wether a platform is terminus or not
20:56:40  <Ammller> you can use the same function which check if a train has to return or can drive forward?
20:56:48  <Eddi|zuHause3> no
20:58:14  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i have this "proper" idea in my mind...
20:58:22  <Eddi|zuHause3> "programmable stations"
20:58:43  <Eddi|zuHause3> where "station" is "a place with at least one switch" [real railway definition]
20:59:06  <Eddi|zuHause3> which would be like a superset of programmable signals/switches
20:59:32  <Eddi|zuHause3> it could then easily contain stopping positions (depending on train length etc.)
21:00:29  <Eddi|zuHause3> but it's a huge project, and i don't see me tackling it
21:04:26  <Eddi|zuHause3> considering the whole station as a unit would also allow for some shunting options
21:04:29  <Eddi|zuHause3>
21:04:30  <Eddi|zuHause3>
21:04:31  <Eddi|zuHause3>
21:04:31  <Eddi|zuHause3>
21:04:40  <Eddi|zuHause3> ups...
21:04:49  <Gonozal_VIII> yay spam
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21:12:34  <peter1138> 'Your search - "a place with at least one switch" - did not match any documents.'
21:12:41  <peter1138> not a very good quite, really...
21:12:50  <peter1138> QUOTE
21:15:42  <Eddi|zuHause3> Fachsprachlich ist der Bahnhof in Deutschland durch die Eisenbahn-Bau- und Betriebsordnung definiert:
21:15:42  <Eddi|zuHause3> „Bahnhöfe sind Bahnanlagen mit mindestens einer Weiche, wo ZÃŒge beginnen, enden, kreuzen, ÃŒberholen oder mit Gleiswechsel wenden dÃŒrfen.“
21:16:31  <Gonozal_VIII> then my town doesn't have a station
21:16:56  <Eddi|zuHause3> "Nach der österreichischen Definition muss ein Bahnhof nicht unbedingt eine Weiche aufweisen."
21:17:02  <Gonozal_VIII> :D
21:17:39  <Gonozal_VIII> makes much more sense
21:17:45  <Belugas> why must i hae to recompile for the change to apply ???
21:17:48  <Belugas> that is insane!
21:18:37  <peter1138> See, that's probably just a German definition for German people who speak German.
21:19:00  <peter1138> Belugas, disgusting, isn't it...
21:19:09  <Belugas> yup
21:19:22  <Eddi|zuHause3> i did not say it was all railways ;)
21:19:22  <Belugas> ottd interpreted!
21:19:39  <Eddi|zuHause3> but there is at least one that does that
21:20:19  <Gonozal_VIII> a station with only one platform on a single track is still a station
21:23:34  <Eddi|zuHause3> that's a "Haltepunkt" in the german definition
21:25:40  <peter1138> btw
21:25:46  <peter1138> i don't know if you guys heard
21:25:53  <peter1138> but we had some shocking news
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21:26:35  <peter1138> graphics_master retired... i know we're all deeply upset
21:26:48  <Sacro> :(
21:27:01  <Noldo> who?
21:27:06  <Sacro> peter1138: what about all his sets?
21:27:32  <Eddi|zuHause3> do i have to know this person?
21:27:52  <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know him either
21:28:21  <Belugas> sniff
21:28:33  * peter1138 needs to reboot
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21:28:52  <Sacro> fine, leave then
21:28:54  <Sacro> see if i care
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21:33:31  <peter1138> Aahnnnnnd, he's back!
21:33:32  * Sacro hides
21:34:05  <Belugas> and aliiiiive!
21:35:31  <peter1138> Oh I wouldn't go that far.
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21:41:06  <Eddi|zuHause3> i think i'll also do some kind of reboot style thing
21:41:42  <Eddi|zuHause3> 27 days...
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21:44:04  <Vikthor> I won't. I am just running emerge -u world parallel to OpenTTD an I have no desire to start emerge again afterwards ;)
21:44:24  <Vikthor> * OpenTTD compilation
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22:14:44  <FV> Hi all
22:15:24  <Sacro> hey
22:15:28  <FV> I have a quick question...anyone?
22:15:32  <Eddi|zuHause3> no.
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22:15:40  <Sacro> that was a quick question
22:15:46  <FV> How do you unjam a plane jam??? LOL
22:16:14  <glx> airport deadlock?
22:16:36  <FV> yep..
22:16:42  <glx> shouldn't happen
22:16:46  <FV> for an hour now
22:16:52  <glx> unless you have stopped a plane
22:17:30  <FV> six jumbos, two claim they are in flight, I've used every combo of orders for all six
22:17:44  <FV> no one will move
22:17:44  <glx> provide a savegame
22:17:52  <FV> can do...
22:17:59  <peter1138> and the version of ottd
22:18:16  <FV> it's the latest night version....
22:18:32  <FV> where would you like the save?
22:18:53  <glx> bugs.openttd.org
22:19:07  <FV> kk, give me a minute
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22:28:35  <FV> Ok, it's there...
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22:29:21  <FV> BTW...long, long, long, time TT player and these new updates are awesone!
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22:31:01  <FV> Are you still with me glx?
22:31:24  <Sacro> lol
22:35:20  <glx> FV: there's a stopped plane in the depot
22:35:27  <FV> No...
22:35:36  <FV> Hang on...
22:35:51  <glx> aircraft 13
22:36:01  <FV> let me look, I'm not usually THAT thick LOL
22:38:48  <FV> Ok, I got him, he was not showing up in the depot window when I opened it. I assumed it was empty...hmm I should have looked at my aircraft list...
22:38:58  <FV> Thanks, now I feel stupid LOL
22:40:38  <FV> Loving the game BTW. My wife is a TTD widow once again.
22:41:02  <FV> Still waiting for the sodor set for my 4 year old LOL
22:42:37  <FV> Ok, gotta run but I'll be around and contribute as much as I can, this is a worthwhile project... .Thanks for the help..
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22:49:54  <ln-> zomfg, a bjarni is here.
22:50:09  <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni!
22:50:30  <Sacro> Bjarni!
22:50:41  <Gekz> Bjarni?
22:50:43  <Gonozal_VIII> you're writing it all wrong
22:52:38  <ln-> ladies and gentlemen, i'd have a small translation request.
22:53:08  <Sacro> would you?
22:53:13  <Gonozal_VIII> would make sense to mention the language
22:53:28  <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: whats the point, he's already sorted it
22:53:28  <ln-> Sacro: yes i 'd.
22:55:07  <ln-> we have: "GenericName=Text Editor", "Comment=Fast, extendable programmers' text editor"
22:56:10  <ln-> i have some versions for deutsch, nederlands, swedish, finnish; i'd be interested in languages other than those.
22:57:54  <SpComb> Bjarni is not
22:58:01  <SpComb> Bjarni i snot
22:58:36  <Fujitsu> ln-: The GNOME HIG recommends the the comment start with a verb.
22:58:58  <Sacro> ln-: Extay Editoray
22:59:24  <Sacro> Astfay extendableay rogrammerspay exttay editoray
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22:59:50  <ln-> Fujitsu: fortunately we're not bound by GNOME HIG.  (but good to know.)
23:00:01  <Fujitsu> Why on't you follow it?
23:00:08  <Fujitsu> That's what the rest of them do.
23:00:18  <Fujitsu> (sorry, my d key is fairly broken)
23:00:20  <ln-> it's not a GNOME program.
23:00:41  <Fujitsu> Consistency is good, and we normally like to follow it even in non-GNOME programs.
23:00:53  <ben_goodger> ln-: esperanto?
23:01:04  <ln-> ben_goodger: sure, if you know esperanto.
23:01:12  <ben_goodger> I do indeed
23:01:21  <ben_goodger> let's see
23:02:12  <ln-> Sacro: what is the ISO language code for that... gibberish?
23:02:33  <Sacro> ln-: en_US@piglatin
23:03:21  <ben_goodger> that'd be 'tekstredaktilo' and 'rapida, etendabla tekstredaktilo por programistoj'
23:03:47  <ln-> Sacro: zomfg, such a locale really exists.
23:04:06  <ln-> ben_goodger: thank you.
23:04:06  <ben_goodger> ISO 639-1 code is eo
23:04:16  <Sacro> ln-: http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/en_US@piglatin yes
23:04:32  <ben_goodger> you get a prize for pronouncing "tekstredaktilo" correctly
23:05:48  <ben_goodger> ought it be "for programming" instead of "for programmers"?
23:06:38  <ln-> ben_goodger: the translator should have that much freedom.
23:06:45  <ben_goodger> ok
23:07:12  <ben_goodger> s/programistoj/programado
23:08:37  <ben_goodger> esperanto follows english-like rules of capitalisation; both of the "tekstredatilo"j come with built-in indefinite articles
23:09:55  <ben_goodger> that's me finished
23:09:59  <Sacro> ben_goodger: please terminate your sed commands :p
23:10:09  <ben_goodger> ?
23:10:16  <ben_goodger> I've only seen it used like that
23:10:16  <Sacro> s/foo/bar/
23:10:17  <Sacro> :)
23:10:20  <ben_goodger> oh..
23:10:23  <ben_goodger> how many languages do you have now?
23:10:50  <ln-> de, piglatin, eo, fi, nl, sv
23:11:03  <ben_goodger> ah.
23:11:29  <ben_goodger> is the source published for this program anywhere? I lack a degree in emacs, but would like python autocompletion
23:11:36  <Gonozal_VIII> piglatin... very important
23:11:50  <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: ootay ightray
23:12:04  <ben_goodger> eedinay
23:12:15  <ln-> ben_goodger: the editor is eFTE (a fork of FTE), and its source can be found at http://efte.sourceforge.net/
23:12:25  <Gonozal_VIII> bah, can't read that crap
23:12:35  <Eddi|zuHause> <Fujitsu> ln-: The GNOME HIG recommends the the comment start with a verb. <- what kind of sense does this rule make?
23:13:09  <ben_goodger> not a lot, but it's at least consistent
23:13:46  <ben_goodger> hm
23:13:51  <ben_goodger> when was this fork made?
23:14:08  <ben_goodger> it's not in debian
23:14:24  <ln-> ben_goodger: something like a month ago.
23:14:39  <ben_goodger> that explains it
23:14:51  <Eddi|zuHause> it is totally weird... either you have a full sentence, which rarely starts with a verb, or you have a non-sentence phrase, which rarely has a verb at all
23:15:28  <ben_goodger> indeed
23:15:36  <ben_goodger> I think it's a lot like copyright law
23:16:14  <ben_goodger> the citizenry don't obey it, the executive don't enforce it, the judiciary don't punish against it and the legislature don't understand it
23:16:29  <ln-> Eddi|zuHause: they are probably expecting descritions like "See the current time", "Browse your porn collection instantly", ... but that doesn't work well with everything.
23:16:37  <Fujitsu> ln-: That's right.
23:17:04  <Fujitsu> Ekiga is `Talk to people over the Internet' and Epiphany is `Browse the web'
23:17:08  <Fujitsu> All of that form.
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23:18:47  <ln-> let's comment on this: "Comment[de]=Schneller, erweiterbarer Programmeditor" .. it's not exactly the same as english, at least, but is it otherwise ok?
23:18:47  <Sacro> The Eiffel Tower is such a waste of meccano...
23:18:58  <ln-> should the comparative be removed
23:19:19  <ben_goodger> `edit text quickly and extensibly' is 'tekstredakti rapide kaj etenable' if it's needed...
23:19:28  <Eddi|zuHause> in german, such kind of phrases usually have the verb in the end of the sentence
23:20:08  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:21:50  <ben_goodger> ln-: be sure to tell me when efte is in debian, but I've installed fte now and am liking it
23:22:00  <Eddi|zuHause> ln-: it's not a comparative, it's a declination
23:22:34  <Eddi|zuHause> it just coincidentally looks the same ;)
23:22:44  <ln-> clever encryption
23:24:25  <Eddi|zuHause> you notice when you insert an adjective that has an irregular comparative
23:24:33  <Eddi|zuHause> good boy -> guter Junge
23:24:43  <Eddi|zuHause> better boy -> besserer Junge
23:26:18  <Eddi|zuHause> but don't expect me to explain the grammatical rules of that
23:26:39  <Eddi|zuHause> as a native speaker, you just do The Right Thing (tm)
23:27:43  <nicfer> Hi, I am UnderBuiilder with a new nick
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23:30:05  <SpComb> \o/
23:30:13  <ln-> then, comments on this: Comment[nl]=Snelle, uitbreidbare tekst editor voor programmeurs
23:30:17  <ben_goodger> ln-: how do you get it to make a new file?
23:30:51  <ln-> ben_goodger: press F3 as in "open file", and enter the desired filename.
23:31:02  <ben_goodger> ah, thanks
23:31:38  <Eddi|zuHause> ln-: what you can do is replace "Programmeditor" with "Texteditor fÃŒr Programmierer"
23:31:51  <Eddi|zuHause> it's closer to the original, and like this dutch one
23:32:30  <ln-> i'll do that
23:33:42  <ben_goodger> hrrm
23:33:46  <ben_goodger> it doesn't autocomplete
23:33:57  <ln-> Bjarni: would you like to speak in languages?
23:34:16  <ln-> ben_goodger: yeah, it's not perfect, but very near.
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23:35:20  <ben_goodger> I have yet to find a text editor that can do what VS.Net does, which is to display a tooltip to the effect of "int(<i>chr</i>)" when one types "int("
23:35:48  <Sacro> intellisense?
23:35:51  <Sacro> vim7 has that
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23:38:33  <Sacro> as does monodevelop, eclipse
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23:40:31  <Progman> vim7 do?
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23:47:27  <ln-> french? danish? any non-fictional language?
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23:57:38  <nicfer> what is lacking to openttd? what can be improved?
23:58:39  <ln-> countries.
23:58:42  <Gonozal_VIII> lots and everything, there will always be stuff that can be changed
23:59:10  <Gonozal_VIII> that's part of the fun^^

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