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00:05:36 <Bjarni> no 00:06:26 <|Naetur|> haha lol 00:07:47 <Sacro> Bjarni is dead 00:07:50 <Sacro> hence his smell 00:09:09 <Bjarni> Sacro is dead too 00:09:16 <Bjarni> I killed him countless times 00:18:10 <|Naetur|> Bjarni, u wanna play open TTD? 00:20:47 <Bjarni> not now 00:20:51 <Bjarni> I should be sleeping 00:20:55 <|Naetur|> ok 00:20:56 <Bjarni> yet I'm fixing bugs 00:21:18 <|Naetur|> for the game? 00:21:21 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-36-23.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:22 <Bjarni> yeah 00:21:25 <|Naetur|> wow 00:21:29 <|Naetur|> u r a creator 00:21:44 <Bjarni> I just managed to solve the crash I introduced in autoreplace 00:22:01 <|Naetur|> oh ok 00:23:23 <Bjarni> <|Naetur|> u r a creator <-- yeah 00:23:27 <Bjarni> I created everything 00:23:32 <Bjarni> even you 00:24:01 <|Naetur|> haha 00:24:47 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 00:28:04 <SmatZ> he really did 00:28:14 <|Naetur|> yeah he's god 00:28:17 <SmatZ> yeah 00:28:36 <Sacro> no 00:28:40 <Sacro> god could never be dutch 00:29:13 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-42-221-117.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:30:08 <Bjarni> <Sacro> god could never be dutch <-- maybe that's why I'm not Dutch 00:30:21 <Sacro> pff 00:33:08 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75410.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:06 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [now see what godly powers can do] 00:34:09 <Bjarni> :) 00:34:41 <Bjarni> ok time for bed 00:34:43 <Bjarni> goodnight 00:34:50 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad1.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:37:13 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:37:15 <Sacro> D: 00:39:34 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76A92.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48:34 *** Tefad_ is now known as Tefad 00:49:02 *** |Naetur| [~fdj@ffh.linared.net] has left #openttd [] 00:56:03 *** k-man_ [~jason@ppp255-50.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:05 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07:02 *** k-man_ [~jason@ppp255-50.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 01:25:55 <JelloX> how can i destroy a opponents train on purpose to get him to stop taking my coal 01:25:55 <JelloX> ? 01:26:18 <JelloX> should i get another train to stand right in the middle of his track 01:26:25 <JelloX> = ka boom 01:28:51 <glx> it's not your coal 01:29:12 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 01:29:17 <JelloX> its totally mine 01:29:38 <glx> no it's not, you don't own the industry 01:29:44 <glx> you just transport stuff 01:30:06 <JelloX> no i own the industry i bought it out 01:30:22 <glx> and if you wan't more, you just need to have a better service than the opponents 01:30:31 <JelloX> yea i know 01:30:33 <JelloX> lol 01:30:37 <glx> even if you founded the industry you don't own it 01:30:42 <JelloX> lame ._. 01:33:45 <JelloX> since i cant put a train on there 01:33:46 <JelloX> i put a car 01:33:49 <JelloX> on his track 01:33:50 <JelloX> lets c wat happens 01:34:57 <JelloX> HERE IT COMES 01:35:17 <JelloX> WTF 01:35:21 <JelloX> the train just went through it@ 01:35:22 <JelloX> dam it 01:38:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:55:58 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:10:27 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 02:20:09 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:59:21 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:35:08 <JelloX> company value is unrealistic 03:35:16 <JelloX> do they have plans on fixing it ? 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:) 08:47:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:48:07 * insulfrog is on the openttdcoop server 08:50:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12937 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: split allocating and finding the spot to place a window. Patch by Alberth. 08:50:27 <k-man_> does openttd need the graph files even if your just running it as a dedicated server? 08:51:17 <SmatZ> k-man_: yes 08:51:56 <k-man_> why is that? 08:52:43 <Rubidium> cause the graphics files contain more than just the graphics 08:53:12 <Rubidium> like data needed for the landscape generator 08:53:24 <k-man_> oh 08:53:26 <k-man_> i see 08:57:06 <k-man_> where do i put the openttd.cfg file? 08:57:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12938 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: coding style fixes. Patch by Alberth. 08:57:13 <k-man_> under linux 08:57:29 *** teeg [~jmathias@invader.mindriot.as] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:57:36 <Rubidium> ~/.openttd/ is the best place 08:58:49 <k-man_> Rubidium, does it look for it in there automatically? 08:59:16 <k-man_> it creates it automatically? 08:59:21 <Rubidium> yes 08:59:26 <k-man_> cheer 08:59:26 <k-man_> s 08:59:46 <Rubidium> unless you broke it by changing the home directory in the configure script 09:00:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:00:54 <k-man_> no 09:00:58 <k-man_> just defaults 09:01:09 <k-man_> any special options i should look for that make coop play better? 09:01:38 <Rubidium> disable animation 09:01:53 <k-man_> what does that do? 09:02:03 <Rubidium> which is only the palette animation though 09:02:12 <Rubidium> it reduces the time needed for drawing 09:02:35 <Rubidium> the other settings that matter for coop are forced by the server 09:03:56 <insulfrog> I have to go, bye all :) 09:03:58 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@ACBCC9AD.ipt.aol.com] has left #openttd [] 09:06:07 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41638.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:06:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 09:06:11 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9CAA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:06:24 <Roest> morning 09:07:19 <Bjarni> morning 09:07:27 <Bjarni> hah 09:07:34 <Bjarni> I beat you to this channel 09:07:38 <Bjarni> by a whole 4 sec 09:09:11 <k-man_> does the server automatically pause when no clients are connected? 09:09:19 <Bjarni> you can set it to do that 09:09:24 <Bjarni> it's a setting option 09:09:55 <k-man_> ah 09:09:56 <k-man_> thanks 09:09:57 <Bjarni> so the answer is: maybe ;) 09:10:21 <k-man_> which setting is it? 09:10:55 <Bjarni> I can't remember 09:11:03 <Bjarni> pause_server_with_no_clients or something 09:11:31 <HMage> pause_clients_with_no_server should be nearby too :) 09:13:23 <peter1138> min_players 09:14:12 <k-man_> can't see that option in the wiki or my .config file 09:16:48 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F546B1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:18:03 <SmatZ> k-man_: it should be in the [network] section of config file 09:22:54 <Roest> ah nice, nothing better than going online on a sunday morning and finding a solution to your problems on the opengl forums 09:24:44 <Bjarni> it doesn't beat waking up on a Sunday morning and finding the solution to the bug your bug problem in the code you wrote last night 09:25:13 <Bjarni> but the OGL thing sounds nice too 09:26:00 <Bjarni> Roest: are you good at coding OpenGL or did you find the solution under "top 10 n00b mistakes"? 09:26:11 <Roest> lol 09:26:42 <Roest> probably not the top10 noob mistakes but not very advanced either 09:26:45 <Bjarni> somebody once tried to change OpenTTD into OpenGL and had problems. I found the solution for him in that top 10 list 09:27:53 <Bjarni> for some reason we were never allowed to see his code but he claimed that it could reach up to max 5 fps (including mouse movements) on a high end computer 09:28:11 <Rubidium> wooh ;) 09:28:15 <Rubidium> days taking... 09:28:19 <Rubidium> 15 seconds :) 09:30:17 <Roest> well this is what my problem looked like http://b.imagehost.org/view/0649/screen1.png 09:31:35 <Roest> and this is the correct version http://b.imagehost.org/view/0672/screen2.png 09:31:52 <Roest> was just some blending problem 09:39:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12939 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: do not use the window proc to determine whether a toolbar is a rail toolbar, but use the window number. 09:41:21 <Roest> anyone feel like having a look at #1969 ? 09:42:27 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 09:44:37 <Rubidium> hmm, summer of '69... 09:51:18 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 09:51:49 <Bjarni> 69 was an interesting year 09:52:00 <Bjarni> I don't remember anything that happened in '69 09:52:58 <Rubidium> Woodstock ofcourse... 09:53:08 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9CAA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53:38 <Bjarni> I don't recall ever being at Woodstock 09:54:13 <peter1138> i've good a green-field belt 09:54:36 <peter1138> looks like a farm has gone but left a single line of field tiles :o 09:55:24 <Bjarni> usually it's the other way around 09:56:02 <Bjarni> it's fairly easy to buy a farm without any fields 10:05:18 *** lugo [lugo@p4FD850AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:05:48 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: bjarni * r12940 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Fix [FS#1974](r12913): [autoreplace] a vehicle backup should include the cargo packets in the vehicle as well 10:06:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12941 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: don't access wndproc directly. Patch by Alberth. 10:08:51 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11EBEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:20 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11EBEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:11:55 <k-man_> SmatZ, my network section is empty 10:12:12 <k-man_> [network] section of the openttd.cfg file i mean 10:12:34 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-235-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:22:18 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:22:18 *** ceiv [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23:45 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-237-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:27:08 <k-man_> is there some way to get the server to auto reload the last saved game on restart? 10:30:21 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-235-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:46:24 *** 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Exiting] 14:54:41 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:09 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> Any devs around with time for a quick question? 15:09:22 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:09:55 <peter1138> sup? 15:11:50 <Lakie> Not much, just updating OpenTTD source and then planning to update my binaries. 15:12:06 <Lakie> I heard you finally got your multiple grf vehicle sets active at once patch into the trunk 15:13:28 <peter1138> oh, so microsoft haven't bought yahoo 15:13:31 <peter1138> yes i did 15:13:45 <Lakie> I heard that from Owen, yeasterday, something about not being able to agree on a price 15:14:13 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:15:38 <orudge> so it seems 15:16:27 <Lakie> On the bright side, atleast with OpenTTD I don't have to compile it twice, once before version data and once with it like TTDpatch. ¬_¬ 15:16:50 *** 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pokes sacro to howl 15:43:46 <peter1138> it's both 15:43:50 <peter1138> 0.6.1-RC1 fixes that 15:44:50 <dragonhorseboy> at least the server surprisingly does not have any autopause enabled so I guess it'll be ok till either it resets at year 2050 or the server owner takes it offline himself 15:44:55 <dragonhorseboy> ^-^ 15:46:13 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:19 <dragonhorseboy> hm so RC1 fixes both the class 91 in ukrs and re placing quarries in ukrsi brickyard .... go figure maybe next time I see the server owner online I'll have to ask him about upgrading 15:48:40 <dragonhorseboy> peter...just asking but you ever played these server thats named 'newindustries 060' or something? 15:48:42 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-20-245.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:49:16 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm62.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Teh best!] 16:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> am i the only person questioning the relevance of this question? 16:02:10 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a91.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:07:39 *** christian_ [~christian@pD9E5C7FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:08:47 *** christian_ is now known as christian 16:14:35 *** christian [~christian@pD9E5C7FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:21:50 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:16 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 16:23:27 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:29 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:28:06 <cjk> sooo 16:28:19 * cjk checks who abducted his ttd server while he was gone over the 2 days 16:55:16 *** ceiv [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:55:20 *** divoafx 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If the set theory intersection of the area coverage of A and B both contain C, what determines which stations gets the goods? 17:10:15 <mynetdude> are A B And C all connected? 17:10:37 <cjk> meh, A(blue player) covers C(factory) and B(red player) covers C, who gets the goods :) 17:10:50 <cjk> as I see it some goes there and some goes there 17:10:54 <mynetdude> they both do 17:11:00 <mynetdude> unless one has exclusive rights 17:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> cjk: afaik the two stations with the highest rating get cargo 17:11:32 <cjk> so if I put a station on every possible square, the income would be like eightfold? 17:11:35 <mynetdude> right, if you don't have exclusive rights in that town, because most factories will be associated with the town name 17:11:57 <mynetdude> cjk on every square? I don't know about that 17:12:14 <mynetdude> Eddi|zuHause3 I'm pretty sure both stations get the cargo, the difference is how much would probably based on rating 17:12:31 <mynetdude> the ONLY exception would be is if you buy exclusive rights I think, I have not tried that 17:12:58 <cjk> you can see for yourself; server is FFA-2052-CJK, station is "Grundingwood Transfer" 17:13:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> no station after the first two will get any cargo, the first two divide it by rating 17:13:17 <cjk> and it seems to devide betwee the bluish and the reddish 17:13:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> (unless that has been changed recently) 17:13:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> damn, i need new batteries in my keyboard 17:14:16 <mynetdude> Eddi|zuHause3 only the first two, so you're saying if you add more stations the additions will not get any cargo? 17:14:41 <mynetdude> cjk just as Eddi|zuHause3 said, its divided based on ratings... and you're seeing the result of that 17:15:05 <mynetdude> and I am pretty sure, if you buy exclusive rights which will cost you hefty... you would get ALL the cargo 17:16:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> test... much better... 17:18:20 <mynetdude> test what? 17:18:31 <cjk> it is being 'tested' right now 17:18:36 <cjk> i see it in a running game 17:18:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> batteries? keyboard? 17:18:47 <cjk> oh heh 17:18:52 <mynetdude> oh, wireless kb 17:18:58 <cjk> wireless kilobyte! 17:19:05 <mynetdude> lol 17:19:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> it was only reacting to like every second keypress, it was kinda getting annoying ;) 17:19:29 <mynetdude> wow its amazing what people can come up with acronyms even if the other person meant something else :D 17:19:44 <mynetdude> Eddi|zuHause3 ah what kind of kb ya got? 17:19:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> world of warcraft? :p 17:19:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> a black one... 17:20:04 <mynetdude> Eddi|zuHause3 ok don't start that now, but yes WoW is World of Warcraft, you play that? 17:20:10 <mynetdude> Eddi|zuHause3 yeah what brand? 17:20:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, i don'T 17:20:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> it says "saitek" on it 17:20:32 <mynetdude> hmm those are good 17:20:39 <mynetdude> I have a logitech wireless keyboard 17:20:54 <mynetdude> but mine is the ergonomic kind... the only kind I can use now 17:21:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> the logitech ones are weird... i always get scared when i see them in store 17:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> my keyboard is fine, but the accompanying mouse is problematic 17:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> the mouse drains the batteries really fast, and when the mouse is reloading, the reciever gets kinda blocked, it does not accept keyboard input very well anymore 17:23:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> or only from short distance 17:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i have problems with the mouse wheel 17:24:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> sometimes when i scroll down, it jumps up again 17:25:18 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 17:25:22 *** ceiv [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:05 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 17:27:05 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:26 *** ceiv [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 17:28:26 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:42 <mynetdude> Eddi|zuHause3 well supposedly Logitech is good because the batteries last about 4-8 months 17:29:13 <mynetdude> I haven't had to replace the last set I put in, I had to replace factory batteries that came with it though 17:29:49 <mynetdude> and I LOVE my LX7 Logitech mice... it has auto off and it has navigation buttons so I don't have to use the browser's forward/back buttons 17:29:54 *** Trond [~nope@ti131310a080-5716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 17:30:28 <mynetdude> I can also manually turn the mice off too, oh... and its not laser optical... it uses invisible optics which means I don't need a stupid mousepad 17:30:56 *** satya1 [~satyap@c-68-58-242-184.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 17:31:58 <peter1138> i just have wires 17:32:00 <peter1138> far simpler 17:32:15 <mynetdude> lol you think... 17:32:23 <mynetdude> wires tangle and clog up crap 17:32:32 <peter1138> yes 17:32:44 <mynetdude> well technically so do wireless kb/mice they have wires for the usb receiver 17:32:52 <peter1138> so 1) they encourage you to at least have a tidy path for the cable 17:33:04 <peter1138> and 2) you can't easily misplace the device in a different location 17:33:13 <peter1138> oh, and 3) it doesn't need batteries 17:33:36 <mynetdude> lolz I don't misplace my device, they stay where they belong 17:34:03 <mynetdude> and I have yet to replace the batteries and the specs say they will last AVERAGE 4-8 months I'm going to bet it will last 6 months 17:34:29 <peter1138> alright 17:34:34 <peter1138> and 2) *I* can't easily misplace the device in a different location 17:34:35 <mynetdude> just saying... 17:35:32 <mynetdude> well like I said, I don't misplace mine... I have a 2nd LX7 mice for my laptop... I have never misplaced that either... cuz it travels with the laptop even though the laptop has its own bluetooth mice which BTW sucks... the bluetooth Targus mouse eats up my battery in 3 weeks and its a AAA type battery 17:35:47 <mynetdude> the LX7 uses AAs instead... I think you know which pwnt 17:37:50 <peter1138> they 'pwnt' do they? 17:38:26 <mynetdude> no.. its they pwn, pwnt is past tense :P 17:38:49 <mynetdude> like, my car pwns yours... but yesterday my brother's friend pwnt him :P 17:44:54 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> PS: by "batteries" i mean rechargables 17:46:06 <mynetdude> well thats true, you could get rechargable batteries 17:46:52 <mynetdude> and I do plan on getting some, cuz everything I use takes batteries, my TV, my alarm clock, my mouse/kb, my shipping scale, I don't know what else... but I have quite a few things 17:46:55 <mynetdude> oh flashlights 17:46:59 <mynetdude> I have two LED flashlights 17:48:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> problem is compatibility... you need devices that use the same size of batteries 17:49:32 <peter1138> raaa 17:49:37 <peter1138> got the algae out 17:50:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> you don't have to describe your feet hygiene to us... 17:50:26 <peter1138> indeed i don't 17:50:42 <peter1138> but i shall comment on my pond's life forms 17:50:47 <mynetdude> lol I don't think that was from the feet? 17:50:57 <mynetdude> ah ok 17:51:06 <mynetdude> yeah what you got a pond next to your PC? 17:51:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> water cooling? 17:53:51 <peter1138> well i saw one frog in there cooling off 17:54:20 *** Powerek38 [~chatzilla@ijm42.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:54:56 <mynetdude> not what we asked... but ok 17:55:43 <peter1138> it is what Eddi|zuHause3 asked. 17:56:03 <Powerek38> hello! how can I change the language of my OpenTTD? 17:56:03 <peter1138> and it's next to my laptop... when i'm outside... 17:56:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> indeed it is 17:56:26 <peter1138> go into 'Game Options' and pick the language in there 17:57:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... i never needed to change the language of openttd... 17:57:20 <Powerek38> peter1138: thanks a lot 17:57:34 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6978.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:43 <skidd13> evening 17:57:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> it always guessed right to take the most spoken motherlanguage of europe 17:58:07 <Powerek38> Eddi|zuHause3: I think when I installed the 0.6 version, it has set my system's language as the game language 17:58:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:58:28 <Powerek38> but the Polish version doesn't look to good yet 17:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> right, that's what it is supposed to do ;) 17:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can improve it ;) 17:58:43 <peter1138> what's wrong with the polish translation? 17:58:54 <peter1138> (as a english-only speaker... heh) 17:58:57 <peter1138> *an 17:59:30 <Powerek38> peter1138: we have many strange letters in Polish and they don't seem to work well... there are some strange signs instead of those letters 17:59:41 <peter1138> oh right 17:59:49 <peter1138> you can set a font for that 18:00:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> maybe it should also auto-guess a font if it detects such a language 18:01:02 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 18:01:23 <mynetdude> you said "water cooling" and I thought that was for the PC not the frog :P 18:01:32 <Powerek38> or just change the letter to nearest one from the standard Latin alphabet... we would understand anyway 18:01:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> you, sir, have a very limited way of thinking, i presume ;) 18:01:52 <SmatZ> Powerek38: ask your translator to do that 18:02:03 <SmatZ> or use any unicode font 18:02:04 <ln> SmatZ: wtf? 18:02:08 <peter1138> Powerek38: i'd rather not, considering the great effort i went to to include support for all those characters 18:02:17 <peter1138> definitely do not ask the translator to do that 18:02:22 <SmatZ> ok 18:02:32 <Powerek38> SmatZ: it's perfectly ok for me, I spent my whole childhood playing games in English, I don't mind :) 18:03:02 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@ACBCC9AD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 18:03:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> in my whole childhood i did have a few english games, but i had exactly no clue what they said 18:03:20 <insulfrog> hi all 18:03:23 <peter1138> anyway, setting a font is documented in readme.txt, although it's pretty brief 18:03:38 <mynetdude> jeeze you guys talk too fast sometimes 18:04:01 <Powerek38> ok, thanks again for help... now it's my time to test the 0.6 :) 18:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can set your client to delay the display of lines, if that helps :p 18:04:04 <Noldo> I remember learning words like 'move' and 'attack' from some game 18:04:04 <Powerek38> see you :) 18:04:07 *** Powerek38 [~chatzilla@ijm42.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 18:07:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6978.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:09:43 *** mynetdude is now known as mynetdude|Away 18:11:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:18:10 <Ammler> [19:57] <Eddi|zuHause3> it always guessed right to take the most spoken motherlanguage of europe <-- german? 18:18:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> how'd you guess ;) 18:18:52 <hylje> da 18:19:02 <Ammler> :-) 18:19:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> "europe" being the EU 18:19:12 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11E6FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host193-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:19:50 <Ammler> then it would be english? 18:19:56 <Wolf01> hello 18:19:58 <ln> Eddi|zuHause3: motherlanguage = mother tongue 18:20:00 <Ammler> well, still germne, I gues 18:20:08 <Sacro> no, spanish 18:20:10 <Sacro> i think 18:20:12 <Sacro> or chinese 18:20:19 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11E6FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:20:19 <Sacro> oh, europe 18:20:19 <Ammler> Sacro: in eu? 18:20:20 <Sacro> err... 18:20:22 <Sacro> might well be russian 18:20:33 <Ammler> Sacro: EU! 18:20:36 <Sacro> pff 18:20:39 <Sacro> the EU keeps changing 18:20:40 <Ammler> :-P 18:20:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> russia is not exactly an EU member 18:20:49 <Sacro> i looked at my globe the other day 18:20:55 <Sacro> what happened to USSR 18:20:58 <Sacro> and Yugoslavia 18:21:07 <Sacro> and czechosolvakia 18:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> and east germany? 18:21:13 <Sacro> yes! 18:21:20 <Sacro> actually, i think my globe is 92ish 18:21:21 <Ammler> well, they will be in eu before us :-( 18:21:31 <Sacro> is that *EU, *US 18:21:35 <Sacro> or just *EU? 18:21:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: that is your own fault :p 18:22:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 18:22:35 <Ammler> :-) 18:22:50 <Ammler> you are right 18:28:07 *** Roest [~schurade@pD9EAF1F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> Sacro: while you are at it, figure out what happened to these countries ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/HRR_1648.png 18:30:24 <Sacro> :o 18:33:43 <JelloX> what places accept goods 18:34:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> JelloX: office buildings in big cities 18:35:03 <JelloX> ok 18:35:56 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@ACBCC9AD.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:04 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause3: which country looks almost like that now? :-) 18:38:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: the netherlands :p 18:38:13 <Ammler> hehe 18:38:34 <Ammler> but that should make it clear, why we don't like changes :-) 18:38:39 <ln> http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/zombiestrippers/trailer/ 18:38:46 <Ammler> !s/why/that/ 18:39:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: actually, that is around the time when switzerland got "independent" 18:40:13 <Ammler> there was a time, we where occupied from Napoleon 18:40:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> napoleon was much later 18:40:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> this map is from 1648 (end of 30 years war), napoleon was around 1800 18:42:15 <cjk> hah i'm with Hzm LÃŒneburg 18:42:33 <cjk> or is it already Wolfenb? 18:43:18 <Ammler> just liked to say, we weren't "independent" since then, we were since 1848 really. introduction of the "Verfassung" 18:44:19 <Ammler> but the size was almost the same also there 18:44:41 <cjk> verfassung <=> constitution 18:44:54 <Ammler> thx :-) 18:45:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: "independent" from the "holy roman empire" i mean 18:45:36 <Ammler> ok 18:45:48 <Sacro> holy roman empire batman 18:46:04 <Ammler> that maps looks more like we were just forgotten 18:46:18 <ln> was that the 2nd reich? 18:46:32 <Ammler> 1.? 18:46:54 <ln> 1st is fine for me. 18:46:54 <Sacro> 99? 18:47:05 * Sacro is the 4th reich 18:47:05 <Ammler> 2. was napoleon? 18:47:39 <Ammler> too long ago for me 18:47:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln: "second" empire was formed in 1871 18:48:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> the non-translation of "reich" started in 1918 (end of WWI), when germany was not reigned by an "emperor" anymore 18:49:31 *** Roest [~schurade@pD9EAF1F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> while the german word "reich" does not require an emperor, the english word "empire" does, so they kinda lacked a proper translation ;) 18:51:12 <peter1138> the british empire is well known for having an emperor 18:51:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln: the first "empire", the "holy roman empire", was disbanded when napoleon attacked 18:51:41 <Ammler> so the 2. one was the one with bismark? 18:51:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes 18:52:05 <ln> EU is the 4th? 18:52:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> somewhat :p 18:52:42 <Ammler> why wasn't napoleons empire not a "reich"? 18:53:01 <Ammler> -not 18:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> it was... "Frankreich" 18:53:24 * Ammler is grabbing in wikipedia 18:53:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> but napoleon allied with several western german states (so called "Rheinbund") 18:53:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> so there was no german "reich" left 18:53:59 <Ammler> but without a number... 18:54:00 <Sacro> Rheinhund? 18:54:31 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> what was left was basically prussia and austria, which both got beat up pretty badly 18:56:04 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 18:56:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> Sacro: "Bund" is a "federation" 18:56:14 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 18:56:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> "Hund" is a dog :p 18:58:51 *** Karen_ [~riddle@vps-216-75-24-180.lylix.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:16 <Karen_> evening 18:59:27 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: i know 18:59:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> Sacro: just making sure ;) 18:59:53 <Sacro> pffft 19:00:03 * Sacro notices a guy walking a daschbund 19:00:11 <Karen_> Fiddler seems to be the only person capable of solving the simple riddles 19:00:25 <Sacro> Karen_: i tire 19:00:45 <Sacro> "penttd.cpp:439" 19:00:46 <Sacro> err 19:00:49 <Sacro> "openttd.cpp:439" 19:00:52 <Sacro> it means nothing to me 19:00:57 <Sacro> it means nothing to me 19:00:59 <Karen_> blame it on something else 19:01:00 <Sacro> oooooooooooh vienna! 19:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> Karen_: has the riddle anything to do with speed? 19:01:33 <Karen_> Sacro: the one who holds the file will help you 19:01:51 <peter1138> don't blame, praise 19:02:58 <Karen_> Eddi|zuHause3: which riddle are you refering to? 19:03:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> the fifth one 19:03:56 <Ammler> Karen_: 1138 didn't work 19:04:13 <Karen_> yes, it has to do with speed and Fiddler was the fastest to solve it 19:05:01 <Ammler> hmm, I have only saved the pw, not the acc number :-) 19:05:44 <Karen_> if you send me the password, i might be able to help 19:06:09 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 19:06:35 <Ammler> just entered the answer for the 1. one 19:06:41 <Ammler> I am not able to solve the 2. 19:08:19 <Karen_> Ammler: the one who holds the file will help 19:08:44 <Ammler> thats peter1138, isn't? 19:09:37 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2d.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:09:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:09:55 <Ammler> hmm, 19:09:55 <Karen_> my apologies to peter1138; in no way is this riddle is related to a person. 19:10:08 <Karen_> Bjarni! 19:10:45 <peter1138> hmm, someone on last.fm with a compatibility of 100 19:10:51 <Bjarni> hello Karen_ 19:13:25 <Karen_> how are you Bjarni? 19:13:36 <Bjarni> tired :s 19:13:58 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F546B1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:15:10 <Karen_> congrats to SmatZ for solving the riddles! 19:15:23 <Bjarni> what riddles? 19:15:31 <Bjarni> and are they any harder to solve than bugs? 19:15:45 <peter1138> depends whose bugs... 19:15:51 <Karen_> http://www.ottd.info/ 19:16:17 <Bjarni> the cake is history 19:16:27 <Bjarni> it was eaten at the r10000 party 19:16:39 *** SUSaiyan [~SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [] 19:17:16 <peter1138> there is no cake 19:17:27 <Bjarni> that's the next thing 19:17:42 <Bjarni> the page contains a modified screenshot but no cake 19:17:54 * peter1138 grumbles at things that don't work with pulseaudio 19:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> the cake is a lie, after all 19:19:37 <Bjarni> says who? 19:20:19 <Karen_> the cake itself was very real 19:20:25 <peter1138> the cake isn't, the image is :) 19:20:39 <peter1138> i don't remember a white glow on 'OPEN TTD' for example 19:21:28 <peter1138> damn it 19:21:30 <Bjarni> the titlescreen doesn't say "Happy r10000" either 19:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> there wasn't even an r10000 19:21:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F03B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 19:21:40 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 19:21:43 <peter1138> helicopters in flightgear are too hard :o 19:22:16 <Karen_> that is just because you dont know how to fly them - nor how to practice 19:22:17 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> there wasn't even an r10000 <-- there is but you might not be able to see it 19:22:18 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:22:49 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:18 <Ammler> was in mapgen 19:23:57 <Sacro> Karen_: you mean svn? 19:24:02 <Sacro> that's not numeric 19:24:47 <Ammler> oh, that is restricted :-) 19:25:00 <Karen_> Sacro: i thought you were not so narrow minded 19:25:13 <Sacro> Karen_: i am very broad minded 19:28:07 <JelloX> Nenston Transport has been taken over by Jello Transport! 19:28:07 <JelloX> lol 19:28:29 <JelloX> i was @ .5m, i bought it for around 4m and now im already back @ 9.5m :) 19:29:44 <Wolf01> 'night 19:29:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host193-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:29:49 <JelloX> brb 19:30:29 <Karen_> Sacro: then you should be able to find numbers 19:30:31 <peter1138> Karen_: nah, just real helicopters aren't equipped with a mouse as the primary control method... 19:30:54 <Sacro> Karen_: you know, i really can't be bothered 19:31:04 <peter1138> Sacro: quite 19:31:30 * peter1138 plays with a V22 instead 19:31:42 <Sacro> peter1138: watching HIGNFY with Brian Blessed 19:31:53 <peter1138> Sacro: GORDON'S ALIVE 19:32:01 <Sacro> peter1138: already been shouted 19:32:04 <peter1138> i know 19:32:40 <Karen_> Sacro: but inside you are dying to know the answer 19:32:56 <Sacro> Karen_: inside i'm just generally dying 19:33:02 <peter1138> wtf 19:33:08 <Bjarni> do anybody know who made ottd.info? 19:33:13 <peter1138> this v22 does a flip at a certain speed :o 19:33:31 <Bjarni> admin is named "Ottd Riddle" 19:33:32 <Karen_> i do 19:33:37 <Bjarni> I believe it's an alias 19:33:54 <Bjarni> you made it? 19:33:55 <Bjarni> ok 19:34:00 <Karen_> but can you be sure? 19:34:04 <Bjarni> no 19:34:16 <Karen_> and who would i be anyway? 19:34:36 <Bjarni> that's another good question 19:34:47 <Bjarni> some guy claiming to be a girl 19:35:02 <Bjarni> or a girl claiming to be a guy claiming to be a girl 19:35:22 <Karen_> who made such claim? (btw. that reminds me of a song by blur) 19:35:26 <Bjarni> but the real question is: what is the source of the info about the cake? 19:35:31 <Sacro> Karen_: blur are awesome 19:35:39 <Karen_> what or who? 19:35:47 <Sacro> Bjarni: openttd.org 19:36:28 <Bjarni> I meant what/who is the source of it being fake/real? 19:36:43 <Sacro> oh, that'd be portal 19:37:06 <Karen_> the cake itself was very real. 19:37:17 *** UFO64 [~UFO64@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 19:37:24 <orudge> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=37448 <-- any comments? feel free to test :) 19:37:44 <Sacro> orudge: that url is most pretty 19:37:49 <orudge> hmm, phpBB shows file sizes as KiB now, instead of KB 19:37:52 <Sacro> and clicking on it does in fact bring up a website 19:37:52 <orudge> must have been added in 3.0.1 19:37:56 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F03B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:37:57 <orudge> yes 19:38:04 <orudge> any comments on the patch therein? :p 19:38:23 <Bjarni> nice avatar 19:38:28 <Bjarni> is it you? 19:39:08 <orudge> yes, that's me 19:40:15 <Bjarni> the patch sounds nice 19:40:18 <Bjarni> at least the idea 19:40:20 *** mynetdude|Away is now known as mynetdude 19:41:00 <orudge> Bjarni: well, the patch means that we can a) create and use free sounds without having to have them sound awful and b) use my new music system, once it's complete ;) 19:41:21 <orudge> this patch doesn't feature a new sound effect file format as such, though 19:41:21 <Bjarni> as I said: sounds nice 19:41:57 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:43:24 <Ammler> I am not able anymore to revert my SVN repos 19:43:50 <Ammler> everytime, if I like to apply a patch, it says, that there is already one applied 19:44:03 <Sacro> svn revert . 19:44:20 <peter1138> revert doesn't remove new files, of cours 19:44:21 <peter1138> +e 19:45:46 <glx> svn st | grep "^?" | .... may help 19:45:56 <Ammler> if "svn status" is empty 19:46:11 <Ammler> then it should work, usually 19:49:36 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:50:02 <Ammler> http://paste.openttd.org/5202 19:51:48 <Ammler> (svnversion prints now 12941) 19:54:07 <orudge> src/mixer.cpp and src/mixer.h are being deleted 19:54:20 <orudge> but it doesn't neccessarily "work" with patch 19:54:26 <orudge> so just press 'n' and then delete them manually 19:54:49 <orudge> likewise, the files to go in src/mixer/ may end up in . 19:54:53 <orudge> so you may have to move those manually 19:55:00 <glx> no need to delete them if source.list and project files are updated 19:55:09 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489E5D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:55:38 <orudge> source.list and project are indeed updated 19:55:52 <glx> so they won't be compiled anyway :) 19:55:53 <orudge> hmm, actually, mixer.h is still in source.list 19:56:01 <orudge> ah well, not any more 19:56:19 <glx> .h in source.list are just for being available in msvc 19:56:36 <Sacro> orudge: fail 19:57:01 <orudge> fail? 19:57:04 <Sacro> orudge: fail 19:57:08 <orudge> what is "fail"? 19:57:10 <orudge> be more descriptive 19:57:28 <Sacro> no u 19:57:38 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by orudge [no, u] 19:57:44 <Ammler> orudge: some compile warnings: http://paste.openttd.org/5203 19:57:58 <orudge> Ammler: righto 19:59:23 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:59:26 <Sacro> D: 19:59:28 <Sacro> @stats 19:59:28 <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have 6 registered users with 6 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. 19:59:31 <Sacro> !stats 19:59:34 <Sacro> sush DorpsGek 19:59:41 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 19:59:46 <Sacro> KAAN! 20:01:29 <Ammler> orudge: silence here, I don't need the sfx, if I have sample.cat? 20:01:59 <orudge> should work with sample.cat if you just have that 20:02:29 <Ammler> and its ok, to keep it in my personal home? 20:02:34 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489BAEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:02:40 <Ammler> it's 20:02:41 <orudge> it should in theory work just as it did without the patch 20:02:48 <Sacro> ttdpatch? 20:02:51 <orudge> no 20:02:54 <orudge> the patch file 20:02:59 <Ammler> orudge: I have sound witout your patch 20:03:02 <orudge> at least, it worked for me on Windows with the original sample.cat 20:03:11 <orudge> what sound driver are you using? sdl? 20:03:33 <Ammler> I guess so, :-) 20:03:44 <orudge> could you try it with opensfx.cat please? 20:03:44 <Ammler> alsa 20:03:59 <orudge> it works for me with the original sample.cat in the data/ directory 20:04:07 <orudge> (ie, with openttd.exe in bin/) 20:04:17 <orudge> s/.exe// 20:04:30 <Ammler> my sample.cat is in ~/.openttd/data 20:04:36 <orudge> hmm 20:04:44 <Karen_> glx: still not getting it? Turtle.. Rabbit.. 20:04:48 <Ammler> and the bin in ~/bin.../trunk/bin 20:05:03 <glx> Karen_: something with speed? 20:05:18 <Karen_> very hot. 20:05:24 <orudge> Ammler: well, I just put sample.cat into ~/.openttd/data/ for me, and it's working fine here :/ 20:05:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> i asked that already ;) 20:05:29 <Karen_> but officially i dont support drugs 20:05:38 <glx> imperial or metric? 20:05:40 <orudge> what if you start openttd with ./openttd -s sdl 20:05:55 <orudge> and if that doesn't work, ./openttd -s -d 3 20:05:59 <orudge> see if there's anything interesting in the debug output 20:06:05 <orudge> -s sdl -d 3 20:06:05 <orudge> even 20:06:12 <Ammler> orudge: copied sample.cat to ~/bin/...trunk/bin/data and it works now 20:06:14 <Karen_> glx: think of it as some olympic event 20:06:56 <orudge> Ammler: anyway, feel free to test it with opensfx, if you would :) 20:07:03 <Karen_> + as long as you use the same messurements - you should know it never makes a difference 20:07:10 <Ammler> I will 20:07:19 <Ammler> I guess, thats the mainusage of it? 20:07:44 <orudge> well 20:07:52 <orudge> this project was originally for my new music patch 20:08:06 <orudge> but the new sound effects is kind of the main purpose of it, now 20:08:13 <orudge> and then the music patch will come separately 20:08:32 <peter1138> this patch needs MASSIVE trimming 20:08:36 <glx> YES 20:08:50 <Karen_> good job! 20:08:55 <orudge> peter1138: note that lots of the stuff that isn't used currently will be used in the music patch 20:09:00 <orudge> ie, various routines in mixer/ 20:09:06 <orudge> I could trim them out now 20:09:09 <orudge> but they'd just be readded 20:09:11 <orudge> which would perhaps be a pain 20:09:14 <Ammler> orudge: it works now as it should 20:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... that wasn'T it... 20:09:52 <peter1138> i don't see why you need 110KB to change the sounds... 20:10:11 <peter1138> a new string system? 20:10:16 <Karen_> glx: i invite you to have a guess at who i might be (in private message please) 20:10:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> ah 20:10:26 <Karen_> Eddi|zuHause3: so close.. 20:10:29 <Karen_> ah, good job! 20:10:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> i figured ;) 20:10:53 <orudge> peter1138: as mentioned beofre, I figured that, instead of reinventing the wheel, I'd take the useful bits from scummvm's sound engine. Of course, that's resulted in some duplication - eg, with the string stuff 20:10:57 <orudge> if it can be merged into the normal openttd stuff, then even better 20:11:28 <Karen_> you too are invited to guessing my identity (yet again, in private message) 20:11:32 <orudge> anyway, to simply "change sounds", yes, it could be done a lot more simply 20:11:41 <orudge> but this adds support for proper streaming audio, for use by a future music system 20:11:41 <peter1138> it needs a rewrite if it's to go anywhere 20:11:43 <orudge> and proper mixing 20:11:51 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11E6FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:54 <orudge> but yes, I submitted it because I figured it would require some sort of work 20:12:02 <orudge> but to what degree do you intend it to have a "rewrite"? 20:12:30 <peter1138> ripping most of it out 20:12:40 <orudge> well 20:12:55 <orudge> most of it is necessarily in some way or other. 20:13:07 <orudge> a lot of the string stuff can probably be changed 20:13:12 <orudge> and perhaps the file stuff 20:13:23 <orudge> but that doesn't really comprise the bulk of the patch 20:13:28 <orudge> so it wouldn't make *too* much of a difference 20:14:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> don't have the time right now, maybe later 20:15:01 <Karen_> good job solving the riddles :-) 20:16:31 <peter1138> heh, uint16 samplerate? 20:16:36 <mynetdude> just an odd question, howcome openttd isn't on freenode.net? afaik freenode has a lot of opensource support channels there 20:16:40 <hylje> double precision float 20:16:45 <peter1138> what if i wanted 192KHz audio? 20:16:51 <hylje> mynetdude: we were there, switched off 20:16:51 <Sacro> mynetdude: we moved 20:16:58 <mynetdude> ah... ok 20:17:08 <mynetdude> :) 20:17:12 <Sacro> mhm, nobody in ##openttd on there 20:17:18 <mynetdude> well... duh 20:17:21 <hylje> lilo, when still alive and kicking, was annoying; also netsplits. 20:17:26 *** UFO64 [~UFO64@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:17:30 <mynetdude> I hang out at freenode too... and I swear I've seen orudge there too 20:17:31 <Karen_> mynetdude: ever were there with lilo? spamnode is a better word. 20:17:36 <orudge> mynetdude: yes, indeed 20:17:48 <mynetdude> so you have seen me there too... crossing paths :D 20:17:53 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17:54 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has left #openttd [] 20:17:59 <hylje> the internets are such a small place 20:18:07 <orudge> peter1138: you could try it and see :P obviously, the uint16 would need adjusting, but I'm not sure how well the rate converter works with 192KHz. Haven't had much need to test it so far, to be honest. 20:18:14 <mynetdude> Karen_ not sure if I understand that... lilo? spamnode? 20:18:26 <orudge> hmm 20:18:32 <hylje> lilo was a guy who kept spamming global notice 20:18:34 <orudge> the rate converter currently seems to be limited to 65,535Hz 20:18:38 <Karen_> 'lilo' the passed away operator of freenode, spammed in such amount a better name would be spamnode. 20:18:39 <hylje> like a technical blog 20:19:05 <mynetdude> hylje let me guess... I'll bet thats why you guys left? 20:19:17 <mynetdude> I haven't seen him do it, and I think it looks as if they took care of the problem 20:19:24 <Karen_> he is dead. 20:19:25 <hylje> well.. he died. 20:19:27 <Sacro> mynetdude: he died 20:19:32 <hylje> someone ran over him 20:19:40 <Sacro> there was a "truck *splat* incident" 20:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.qdb.us/67325 <-- ahh, the good old times ;) 20:19:41 <hylje> think he's not caught yet 20:19:49 <mynetdude> this isn't a joke now... cuz you're all sorta acting like it 20:20:05 <mynetdude> hylje well how is he gonna be caught if he is dead? 20:20:14 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 20:20:22 <hylje> the person who happened to *splat* him 20:20:38 <Sacro> i owe him for thatr 20:21:09 <Karen_> Sacro: now that is a bad joke. 20:21:12 <hylje> i think he's a rich person now 20:21:13 <mynetdude> lmao!!!! 20:21:18 <mynetdude> I just asked about lilo on freenode 20:21:29 <Sacro> /whois lilo 20:21:31 <mynetdude> I agree it is 20:21:35 <peter1138> lilo's crap 20:21:38 <peter1138> grub's much better 20:21:43 <Sacro> dare you to /nick lilo 20:21:45 <hylje> i expected that. 20:21:51 <peter1138> < predictable 20:21:54 <Karen_> peter1138 is right. 20:22:12 * glx likes ntloader 20:22:18 * Sacro likes glx 20:22:19 <Sacro> err 20:22:22 * Sacro whistles 20:22:29 <Karen_> ieuw, gay. 20:22:47 <mynetdude> lol I ain't going to nick lilo 20:22:50 <Karen_> but then we all here are used to that from Sacro. 20:22:54 * peter1138 attacks Karen_ with brian blessed 20:23:39 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11E6FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 20:23:51 <Karen_> :-) 20:24:20 <mynetdude> anyhow... 20:24:39 * mynetdude thinks the move wsan't just a move and you guys just like to make a laughingstock out of lilo as part of your move 20:24:45 <mynetdude> regardless... 20:24:56 <cjk> poof 20:25:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> we moved before that... incident... 20:25:51 <cjk> Eddi|zuHause3: it's not "speak like a pirate day" but Talk 20:26:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> cjk: i did not submit the quote ;) 20:27:14 <hylje> speak like a pirate bay 20:27:39 * cjk talks water... 20:27:46 <hylje> how does geographical formation with cultural significance know what speech is 20:27:53 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F546B1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:27:54 <cjk> ha 20:30:32 <hylje> http://www.qdb.us/103505 20:37:44 <cjk> yes we need that in openttd. 20:38:50 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:38:50 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:50 <cjk> http://www.spiegel.de/spam/0,1518,550906,00.html 20:40:52 <cjk> heh... 20:41:35 <hylje> ? 20:42:00 <cjk> A sign says more than 1000 words: "Everything for the pet" 20:42:14 <hylje> how german 20:42:46 <Karen_> jawohl! 20:43:14 <cjk> well what impression would YOU get if a chainsaw was for pets / for use with pets? :-D 20:44:10 <Bjarni> hylje: derailments aren't that funny 20:44:21 <hylje> the accuracy of package tracking is 20:44:32 <peter1138> they're not chainsaws 20:44:54 <cjk> right 20:45:03 <cjk> a hedge trimmer then 21:12:38 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:50 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.2.204.234] has joined #openttd 21:16:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:36 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-138-182.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:18:49 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-237-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:02 *** ceiv [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:29 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:03 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-176-37.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:27 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@85.19.218.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:38 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.2.204.234] has left #openttd [] 21:37:01 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12942 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix [FS#1979]: closing some windows caused recursion in the Window deletion causing the reading invalid/freed data which could cause crashes. 21:42:23 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:55 *** yyz [~yyz@cpc3-rdng1-0-0-cust542.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:45:57 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:00 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 21:46:35 <yyz> so after running through the basic and longer tutorial I still dont really understand large portions of play. Anyone know any other decent links? 21:47:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> best way to learn the game is to play the game 21:47:32 <yyz> well, yeh, but it rather large 21:47:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12943 /trunk/src/fileio.cpp: -Fix: reading/modifying invalid data under some circumstances. 21:51:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-138-182.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:48 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r12944 /trunk/ (19 files in 7 dirs): -Codechange: use rev.h instead of externs at many places 22:07:33 <JelloX> u seem to get alot of errors 22:07:49 <JelloX> yyz, its fairly easy 22:07:51 <JelloX> play the game 22:07:54 <JelloX> attempt to build a few roads 22:08:18 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789FD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:26 * SmatZ listens to JelloX 22:09:05 *** Fiddler [~Fiddler@213.219.152.19.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:10:40 <SmatZ> JelloX: what kind of errors are you talking about? 22:12:57 <JelloX> none 22:12:58 <JelloX> ? 22:13:05 <JelloX> i was sayin cia-3 gets alot of errors 22:13:05 <SmatZ> [00:07:33] <JelloX> u seem to get alot of errors 22:13:10 <JelloX> CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r12944 /trunk/ (19 files in 7 dirs): -Codechange: use rev.h instead of externs at many places 22:13:24 <JelloX> <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12943 /trunk/src/fileio.cpp: -Fix: reading/modifying invalid data under some circumstances. 22:13:31 <SmatZ> JelloX: sorry, I thought there is a bug in OTTD 22:13:34 <JelloX> oh ic 22:13:48 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-176-37.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:14:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12945 /trunk/src/thread_pthread.cpp: -Fix: (small) memory leak when joining/exiting threads. 22:17:05 <Ammler> step 3 now :-) 22:17:17 <Ammler> well, I guess, it is.. 22:19:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12946 /trunk/src/misc.cpp: -Fix: do not allocate the OldNames table when creating a new game as it won't be used anyway. 22:26:26 *** Karen_ [~riddle@vps-216-75-24-180.lylix.net] has left #openttd [] 22:32:21 *** k-man_ [~jason@ppp255-50.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 22:32:37 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12947 /trunk/src/newgrf_spritegroup.cpp: -Fix: keep only first 15 bits for non failed callback results 22:33:34 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F03B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 22:33:35 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12948 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1982]: all vehicles would be available when an original scenario would be played. 22:40:24 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 22:46:53 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-149-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:48:08 <Ammler> any hint for step 3? 22:49:29 <SmatZ> step 3? 22:49:35 <SmatZ> ah, you mean the riddle? 22:49:55 <Ammler> yeah 22:49:58 <Ammler> :-) 22:50:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:50:25 <Ammler> made scrollto to the place 22:50:38 <Ammler> but those numbers don't work 22:51:19 <SmatZ> name of the file has nothing to do with the riddle 22:51:36 <SmatZ> Karen said that... so don't waste time thinking about it :) 22:51:47 <Ammler> :-) 22:52:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:52:33 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-151-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53:02 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 22:53:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: i had similar problem, scrollto didn't match 22:53:44 <glx> but it's scrollto indeed 22:53:55 <SmatZ> hehe 22:54:04 <Ammler> oh 22:54:11 <glx> let's say there's a bug in the riddle 22:54:28 <Ammler> hmm 22:54:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> let's say it's not very far off ;) 22:55:20 <Fiddler> just a slight offset :) 22:55:47 <Ammler> I think, i tried adjacent tiles, too :-) 22:56:23 <Ammler> well, maybe not all 22:58:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12949 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1978]: no loading/no unloading orders were 'forgotten' during manual replaces. 22:59:31 *** yyz [~yyz@cpc3-rdng1-0-0-cust542.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02:50 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2d.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:04:39 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066038.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07:24 <Ammler> hmm, I need to pause for today 23:07:37 <glx> press F1 :) 23:07:58 <Ammler> thanks :P 23:08:16 <Ammler> btw, that was also funny at the beginning 23:08:27 <Ammler> I looked for the farms 23:09:54 <Ammler> and because It was not paused and my scrollto coordinates didn't work, I thought, there is somehwere an other farm which has also the same looking fields 23:11:56 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:33 <echinos> Is it possible to pick up airport passengers if I put a train station beside it? 23:13:46 <glx> yes 23:13:52 <echinos> Schweet 23:13:55 <glx> if the station are joined 23:14:06 <echinos> adjoined to the airport? 23:14:22 <glx> yes, they have the same name then 23:14:27 <echinos> ok, cool 23:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> keep in mind that two-way transfers will not work 23:14:50 <Ammler> nice ai at that map: http://img4.myimg.de/ai20688.png 23:14:54 <Ammler> good night 23:15:02 <glx> and you can see the aircraft and train icons in its name 23:15:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> i totally know why i do not play with AI 23:16:03 <glx> only 3 bridges? 23:16:08 <glx> that's not too much 23:16:14 <glx> even for 4 lines 23:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> i count 4 bridges 23:16:46 <glx> right, I missed one 23:16:50 <Ammler> well, the same company built 4 lines 23:16:56 <glx> I know 23:17:18 <Ammler> well, it's long time ago, I played with ai 23:17:23 <glx> and no 90° turns is probably on too 23:17:24 <Ammler> maybe never with ottd 23:17:49 <glx> hmm no it's off 23:18:23 <glx> I can see an empty train returning to Sinborough Transfer 23:19:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> errr... it should be loading there... of course it is empty 23:19:43 <glx> that means it can use 90° turns 23:19:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> without 90° turns, the train could not even reach that segment 23:20:11 <Ammler> but wasn't the ai able to have more then one train at same line? 23:20:44 <glx> they can 23:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> the TT AI built double track stations with sidings occasionally, for two trains 23:20:51 <glx> but it's random 23:21:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> the trains are all 1 wagon too short 23:21:26 <glx> or depends on industry production (I'm not an ai specialist) 23:23:15 <Ammler> well, good night all (last time, now ;-) 23:23:54 <Roujin> look at the nice AIs the guys in the noAI thread are producing 23:24:07 <Roujin> even if it's only road and air for now 23:24:47 <glx> and ships too 23:25:16 <Ammler> Roujin: did you try the riddle yet? 23:27:48 <echinos> What kind of formula dictates how many passengers will queue up in a station/airport? 23:28:02 <echinos> Does the size of the station or airport matter? 23:30:56 <Roujin> k 23:31:04 <Roujin> -k 23:31:11 <Roujin> that was not intentional 23:32:15 <Roujin> Ammler: only the first one, looked at the second one and didn't find any number at that line of code, and gave up :P 23:33:03 <Roujin> echinos: it depends on how many (and what kind of) houses are within reach of that station 23:34:24 <Roujin> so since a bigger station means a bigger catchment area generally.. yes, size does matter :P 23:38:18 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@p5497370A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:44:52 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54970D3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:00 <Ammler> [1]Roujin: you need a good SVN Browser, then its easy. :-)