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00:00:26 <Yexo> all widgets from the old widget array need a replacement in the new system, and this->index points to the first widget that has no replacement 00:02:30 <petern> index is 2 :o 00:03:35 <Yexo> do you have any new widget with idx = SNGRFS_BACKGROUND1 ? 00:04:13 <petern> yes, a panel 00:04:56 <petern> hmm 00:04:57 <Yexo> can you upload your current diff? 00:05:00 <petern> actually 00:05:05 <petern> i have it twice. odd :p 00:06:19 <petern> okay, doesn't assert now 00:06:26 <petern> doesn't work either, but never mind 00:06:54 <Yexo> make sure to start with -d misc=1 and you'll have a diff of the old / new widgets in the debug output 00:27:40 <petern> hmm, works now 00:27:46 <petern> although some flags are different 00:30:07 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 00:31:37 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 00:36:07 <glx> hmm maybe I should convert some windows too :) 00:37:47 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228026055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:42:15 *** prakti [~myself@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:51:29 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:51:29 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:32 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:10:09 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 01:10:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:31:55 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177237197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:33:22 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|SRA412 01:39:27 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177226081.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:49 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.1.102] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 01:53:16 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:53:16 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:19 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 02:00:00 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:02:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15855 /trunk/src/company_gui.cpp: -Codechange: complete the company finances window widget enum and remove unneeded magic in large window definition 02:02:57 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-254.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 02:03:02 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 02:03:46 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 02:11:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80EFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 02:16:38 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:12 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 02:23:40 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:25:28 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 02:26:01 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [] 02:35:54 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:35:54 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35:57 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 02:37:22 <HackaLittleBit> DaleStan: are you available 02:38:10 <DaleStan> No. 02:38:58 <HackaLittleBit> Ok good night everybody 02:39:03 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-254.net.novis.pt] has left #openttd [] 02:39:33 <DaleStan> Hint to lurkers: If he'd asked a real question, I would have been availabe. 02:39:45 <DaleStan> available* 02:41:20 <glx> he used the better way to not get an answer 02:44:07 <Sacro> DaleStan: you might have got a date out of it 02:54:08 <eMjay88> what a difference a little question mark makes :P 02:57:56 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:57:57 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:02:48 <DaleStan> eMjay88: BZZZT. Wrong. Guess again? 03:03:34 <eMjay88> was "are you available" not a real question for reasons other than the missing question mark? 03:04:06 <DaleStan> "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" 03:04:20 <Sacro> DaleStan: any good with hashtables? 03:04:31 <DaleStan> Now see. That's a real question. 03:05:00 <eMjay88> Fair enough :) 03:05:25 <Sacro> and a serious one at that 03:05:37 <Sacro> I'm worried about thread safety :( 03:06:11 <DaleStan> With a real question you have a chance of getting information that will be useful more than a minute after the answer is given. 03:06:56 <DaleStan> I know a little about thread safety. I'm not aware of any special implications for hash tables. 03:08:09 <Sacro> Well I can have many read + one right 03:08:14 <Sacro> or many write and nobody reads 03:08:25 <Sacro> but I want many write and many read, which seems quite a complex trick 03:08:44 *** Arthemax [~Arthemax@212251211109.customer.cdi.no] has left #openttd [] 03:09:04 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:09:24 <DaleStan> Many read + one write doesn't work the way most people think it does. 03:10:05 <DaleStan> If the writer gets interrupted halfway through a write and then a reader comes along to read the inconsistent state, things will almost certainly break. 03:10:30 <Sacro> Yes, I understand that 03:10:39 <Sacro> currently I lock the hashset on both reads and writes 03:10:48 <Sacro> I'm not sure if I need to lock on a read but I feel I should 03:11:05 <Sacro> I'm not sure if I can check for a lock as opposed to obtain one 03:11:20 <Sacro> but then if a write was to come along... it could jump in ahead of the read 03:11:53 <eMjay88> this is a fairly classic concurrent access afaict 03:12:04 <eMjay88> concurrent access issue* 03:12:45 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:12:53 <Sacro> eMjay88: Yeah, 03:13:02 <Sacro> though perhaps I'm overthinking my coursework :( 03:13:09 <Sacro> not sure he's even brought up this concept 03:13:17 <Sacro> not sure he even taught multi threaded servers 03:13:30 <DaleStan> I'm not sure about that either. I think a system that provides the minimum necessary safety could be written in x86 assembly, but I don't know if that's exposed to higher level languages. 03:14:31 <Sacro> Yeah 03:14:32 <eMjay88> you could use a "fair" semaphore type object to get threads to wait while the hashtable is in use? 03:14:33 <DaleStan> Oh bother. I'm trying to make double-checked locking work. 03:14:39 <Sacro> well C# has some things 03:14:50 <Sacro> eMjay88: i'm sure that's what lock(hashtable) does 03:14:57 <Sacro> but you can still get deadlock 03:15:19 <Sacro> i think 03:15:24 <Sacro> i can't see how my app could deadlock 03:16:15 <eMjay88> something tries to write an item using the hashtable itself? 03:16:48 <Sacro> Yeah but there's no circular route I don't think 03:17:03 <Sacro> Items read, then write then leave 03:17:13 <Sacro> so I can't see that locking 03:17:19 <eMjay88> when do they open their locks? 03:17:29 <Sacro> after the hashset access 03:17:48 <eMjay88> lock -> read -> write -> unlock? 03:18:03 <eMjay88> or read -> lock -> write -> unlock? 03:18:17 <Sacro> no 03:18:34 <Sacro> lock -> read -> unlock -> lock -> write -> unlock 03:19:12 <DaleStan> So, the solution I had in mind could send your threads into tight loops. 03:20:13 <Sacro> oh? 03:22:02 <Sacro> meh, i'll research more tommorow 03:22:07 <DaleStan> Double-checked locking, but with the "fix" that if the lock was improperly acquired, it'd release everything and start over. Interlacing the threads badly, and none can properly acquire a lock. 03:22:16 <Sacro> Ahh 03:22:29 <DaleStan> Interlace the threads badly* 03:23:10 <eMjay88> Sacro: are all locks equal? or can you get a read-lock? 03:23:31 <Sacro> I think they are all equal 03:23:37 <Sacro> I think this is over-cautious 03:23:40 <Sacro> which is better I guess 03:23:51 <Sacro> I don't know if anyone else who has done multi-threading has considered this 03:24:00 <eMjay88> read-locks can simplify things... 03:25:41 <Sacro> I don't think there are 03:25:54 <Sacro> short of writing it myself 03:26:12 <Sacro> :o 03:26:15 <Sacro> ReaderWriterLock 03:26:20 <eMjay88> :S I thought you were 03:26:38 <Sacro> if I can use inbuilt lock() then I will :p 03:26:42 <eMjay88> what language and all are you using? you mentioned C# before... 03:27:04 <Sacro> Yeah 03:27:06 <Sacro> C# 03:28:40 <Sacro> Right, I'll look at that tommorwo 03:29:37 <Sacro> Yeah, ReaderWriterLock 03:29:49 <Sacro> it predates HashTable, hence why the documentation doesn't mention it *facepalm* 03:30:09 <eMjay88> is there a ReaderLock? (ie readonly lock?) 03:31:07 <Sacro> Yep 03:31:09 <Sacro> that does both 03:31:23 <Sacro> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.threading.readerwriterlock.aspx 03:39:01 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:01 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:01 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:42:05 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 03:42:38 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42:48 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:51:09 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 03:52:11 <eMjay88> my keyboad stopped working 03:52:18 <eMjay88> it was really quite annoying 04:00:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:00:48 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:00:51 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 04:22:35 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:22:35 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22:38 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 04:44:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:44:22 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:44:25 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 04:50:26 <eMjay88> anyone here use virtual box? 04:50:43 <eMjay88> with a linux (preferably ubuntu) guest OS? 04:52:00 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm84.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 04:55:42 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:00:17 *** racetrack [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:05:38 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:06:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06:59 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:29:03 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 05:41:28 <Forked> meep meep 05:41:46 <el_en> bang 05:42:04 <Forked> eeek 05:49:04 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:49:04 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49:07 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 05:54:06 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:12:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12:07 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:27:01 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:34:49 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:42 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 06:52:56 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:52:57 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:53:00 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:36:33 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 07:45:31 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:56:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:56:02 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56:05 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:56:40 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:23 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 08:28:43 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 08:52:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F7E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:53:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:57:03 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:03 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 09:05:50 <planetmaker> a wonderful good morning everyone :) 09:06:13 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:12:46 <dihedral> thanks :-P 09:15:20 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:15:20 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:23 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 09:22:35 <eQualizer> What port does content downloading use? 09:22:52 <Rubidium> the same one advertising uses 09:23:04 <dihedral> ^^ 09:23:58 * petern ponders migrating this laptop to debian lenny from ubugtu 09:24:32 <eQualizer> ...sorry? I just mean, I'm at work right now, and I just installed OpenTTD and OpenGFX (<3), but online content doesn't find anything. Just says can't connect to content server. 09:24:33 <dihedral> scratchy 09:24:53 <dihedral> eQualizer, then the port is probably blocked! 09:24:57 <eQualizer> And it could be because almost all ports (except 22, 80, etc) are blocked. 09:25:01 <dihedral> and if you are at work, WORK! 09:25:35 <dihedral> what does your boss pay you for? open source game testing? 09:25:36 <eQualizer> I'm a receptionist, so my work is quite passive... 09:25:38 <petern> !ports 09:25:43 <petern> @openttd ports 09:25:43 <DorpsGek> petern: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 09:26:07 <dihedral> i'd expect all UDP to be blocked 09:26:14 <dihedral> you should not need it outgoing 09:26:26 <petern> yeah, traceroute's aren't useful 09:26:28 <Rubidium> dihedral: yeah... that'd be fun ;) 09:26:32 <petern> ' 09:26:33 <petern> ' 09:26:33 <petern> ' 09:26:33 <petern> ' 09:26:34 <petern> ' 09:26:44 <petern> there, that's my quota of misplaced apostrophes 09:26:53 <dihedral> Rubidium, blocking all udp or testing open source games ^^ 09:27:03 <Rubidium> blocking all udp 09:27:13 <dihedral> there is no issue with that 09:27:18 <dihedral> anything you need internally you can relay 09:27:23 <eQualizer> Would there be anyway to add some proxy settings to OpenTTD? 09:27:23 <Rubidium> trying to go to http://www.ihavenotbeenherebefore.com/ without udp 09:27:25 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-254.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 09:27:44 <petern> local dns server 09:27:47 <dihedral> like i said, anything you might need will be relayed 09:27:54 <dihedral> that includes dns and ntp 09:28:00 <petern> (which is allowed, but only the appropriate ports) 09:28:14 <Rubidium> but then you haven't blocked all udp! 09:28:25 <dihedral> depends 09:28:31 <dihedral> if your router is also the relay ^^ 09:28:39 <Rubidium> eQualizer: just set up a transparent socks proxy 09:29:08 <dihedral> somewhere on the other side of the firewall :-P 09:30:35 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228026055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:31:25 <eQualizer> Rubidium: But I still would need to make OpenTTD use it? 09:31:43 <eQualizer> To use localhost and some port? 09:32:08 <Rubidium> that's where hosts (the file) comes in handy 09:32:53 <petern> hmm 09:32:57 <petern> backing up 30GB at 10MB/s 09:33:29 <petern> hmm, 50 minutes? 09:33:33 <dihedral> eQualizer, do consider, that your network admins might not approve 09:33:55 <dihedral> also consider that people have lost their jobs for not following the network quitelines / requirements 09:34:00 <dihedral> *guidelines 09:34:00 <petern> nah, can't be 09:34:23 <eQualizer> I'm quite free to do what I want her, as long as I don't destroy anything... 09:34:29 <eQualizer> Like install OpenTTD. 09:34:37 <eQualizer> here* 09:35:49 <petern> me too 09:35:58 <petern> including maintaining the network, heh 09:36:02 <petern> and everything else 09:36:03 <dihedral> :-) 09:36:05 <planetmaker> [10:32] <petern> backing up 30GB at 10MB/s <-- sounds like a job for a night time cron job ;) 09:36:09 <dihedral> the joy of being the admin ^^ 09:36:17 <petern> planetmaker, but it's one off 09:36:19 <petern> from a laptop 09:36:26 <planetmaker> he :P 09:36:30 <petern> done 1.8GB 09:36:35 <petern> so i guess 50 minutes might be right 09:36:36 <dihedral> petern, cron job that only runs once every year? :-P 09:36:52 <dihedral> petern, backing up via wireless? :-P 09:36:54 <petern> a cronjob that runs once now? 09:36:55 <planetmaker> dihedral: there are uses for that, too... 09:37:01 <petern> no, ethernet 09:37:04 <dihedral> yes, but you forget them ;-D 09:37:20 <petern> 10MB/s, as in megabytes 09:37:30 <planetmaker> dihedral: how do I forget them, if they're in the cron ? 09:37:30 <dihedral> petern, what about connecting the hdd directly to the other computer? 09:37:35 <petern> it's a laptop 09:37:41 <dihedral> yes you said that 09:37:46 <dihedral> so? 09:37:47 <petern> i do not have an appropriate adapter 09:37:50 <dihedral> ah 09:38:02 <dihedral> well yes, that'd be a bummer then :-D 09:38:28 <petern> 2.6GB 09:38:33 <Forked> # TERRIBLE LIE 09:38:36 <petern> and i'm only backing it up so i can wipe it ;) 09:39:04 <petern> then i can wipe out the old windows partition 09:39:09 <petern> give 30GB to debian 09:39:12 <petern> should be happy 09:39:48 <dihedral> petern, you'd be faster to mail-order the adapter, and continue once it's arrived :-D 09:39:56 <petern> 50 minutes? not really 09:40:22 <petern> you do remember when i copied 120GB over a week right? 09:40:38 <Rubidium> the one with hourly updates? 09:41:10 <dihedral> :-D 09:42:18 <petern> yeah 09:42:29 <petern> hmm 09:42:36 <Forked> so much hostility .. makes me sad :\ 09:42:40 <petern> odd, my server is struggling under the IO :/ 09:42:41 <Forked> I really should stop reading forums 09:42:49 <petern> what ho... oh 09:42:58 <petern> loadavg 2.3 :/ 09:43:24 <Forked> god damn commercials on spotify 09:44:55 <petern> ah, the old "it was a joke" get out clause 09:45:04 <petern> 5GB!" 09:45:07 <petern> ;) 09:45:28 <petern> this is somewhat quicker, because that time i was copying over a congested 200KB/s link 09:55:24 <planetmaker> [10:44] <petern> ah, the old "it was a joke" get out clause <-- especially well pulled, if the next sentence reads along the lines of "I'm right despite..." 09:57:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:57:34 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:37 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 10:09:09 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-254.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: X - Pushed, Have a nice day] 10:09:40 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-254.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 10:09:58 <petern> 15GB! 10:10:06 <petern> but that's half an hour :/ 10:10:10 <petern> it has slowed 10:13:58 <dihedral> petern, did you hear about these OHG guys? 10:14:09 <dihedral> they are embeding python in OpenTTD ;-D 10:15:44 <petern> suck 10:15:44 <petern> er 10:15:45 <petern> sick 10:15:53 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEf261.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 10:17:44 <dihedral> now have a wild guess who's idea that was 10:18:56 <Forked> yours! 10:19:01 <dihedral> NO!! 10:19:31 <dihedral> give you a hint: name / nick starts with a 'y' 10:21:12 *** HackaBit [~Hack@195-23-22-128.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 10:21:44 <petern> yexo! 10:21:44 <Forked> could it be someone that has been frequently kicked (and banned) from this channel? 10:21:50 <petern> yeggzzz? 10:24:29 *** Hendikins|SRA412 is now known as Hendikins 10:25:33 <petern> 21GB, hurr 10:25:34 <dihedral> Forked, warmer ^^ 10:25:57 <dihedral> i like to nick him/it yorkyporky :-D 10:26:46 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-254.net.novis.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:33:47 <petern> hmm, it's stopped :/ 10:36:00 <petern> oh 10:36:01 <petern> crap 10:36:04 <petern> drive errors 10:43:02 <SpComb> it exploded? 10:44:08 *** caladan [caladan@stallman.rootnode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:44:54 <petern> not as such 10:46:37 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 10:50:29 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:58:40 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:58:41 *** HackaBit is now known as HackaLittleBit 11:01:06 <eQualizer> Is this a bug in OpenGFX or in 0.7.0-RC2, when my airport hangar windows is BIG? Slots are about the size of 3x3 terrain tiles. 11:01:22 <Rubidium> that's an OpenGFX 'feature' 11:01:31 <eQualizer> Ok 11:01:44 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 11:02:06 <Rubidium> (one that used to crash OpenTTD) 11:03:23 <petern> more missing sprites? :p 11:03:43 <Rubidium> no, sprites that are ginormous 11:04:02 <Rubidium> i.e. larger than the buffer for the cursor sprite 11:04:08 <petern> nice 11:04:21 <petern> i thought opengfx used the original sprite sizes 11:05:59 <Rubidium> gheheh ;) 11:07:06 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 11:07:25 <Rubidium> in OpenGFX *all* aircraft related sprites are 108x108 pixels 11:07:47 <petern> errrrrr 11:07:50 <petern> okay 11:07:54 <petern> why? 11:08:19 <Rubidium> I don't know 11:10:10 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:16 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:22:45 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:09 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:36:25 * petern waits for dd_rescue to recover 11:39:57 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-128.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: X - Pushed, Have a nice day] 12:03:27 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-128.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 12:05:36 *** CrankY [~CrankY@193.189.127.139] has joined #openttd 12:12:03 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-128.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: X - Pushed, Have a nice day] 12:16:33 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:20:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D457.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:25:21 * petern boots his laptop's disk image via qemu/vnc 12:25:23 <petern> how... silly 12:25:31 <petern> and quite slow 12:29:33 <dihedral> hehe 12:31:49 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:32:43 *** CrankY [~CrankY@193.189.127.139] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 12:37:11 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.89.142] has joined #openttd 12:51:44 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.183.65] has joined #openttd 13:02:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:02:22 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02:25 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:08:42 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@124.189.1.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:50 <Belugas> hello 13:08:54 <Forked> greetings 13:09:21 <petern> why, hello there! 13:09:28 <dihedral> oi 13:13:07 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g227089201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:13:29 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@124.189.1.158] has joined #openttd 13:20:36 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228026055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:36 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:20:54 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:44:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:44:11 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:14 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 14:13:52 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:20:03 <Belugas> "Old man" pfffff 14:20:08 <Belugas> young punk! 14:20:46 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:58 <petern> who what? 14:25:09 <Belugas> Bob Smith 14:25:48 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=41824 14:26:09 <Forked> heheh 14:29:57 <petern> gah 14:30:02 <petern> vista bluescreened :/ 14:31:14 <Belugas> "oooops" 14:33:21 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=775910#p775910 <- tehe 14:35:05 <Belugas> buwhahahaa!!! 14:41:04 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@212.99.255.41] has joined #openttd 14:46:19 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:47:11 * planetmaker thinks that the current amount of new forum participants who qualify as "annoying" is above average... :S 14:49:46 <Belugas> welcome to the club 14:50:38 <dihedral> planetmaker, but at least now we will have less than 50 posts a week saying "please update your patch" 14:51:30 <Belugas> mmh... i have to re-extract both "The Fragile" CDs :( 14:52:15 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:15 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 14:53:36 <planetmaker> Belugas: will this club feature regulary mutual consolence-sessions with much beer? 14:53:43 <planetmaker> err *condolences 14:54:12 <Belugas> WHAT ???? 14:54:43 <dihedral> planetmaker is asking for a pitty-hug ... with beer 14:54:53 <planetmaker> :D 14:55:14 <Forked> beer? 14:55:14 <petern> Belugas, corrupted? 14:55:19 <planetmaker> but quite about right. Though I'm just as well willing to give them as well :) 14:55:29 <Belugas> indeed petern 14:55:39 <Belugas> planetmaker, beer would be a good thing 14:55:39 <petern> meh, creox is killing my laptop :( 14:55:40 <dihedral> do we have a python guru here? 14:56:13 <Belugas> planetmaker, i dream of inviting you all for a ton of beer at home. 14:56:48 <planetmaker> :) sounds like a plan :P Quebec? 14:56:58 <planetmaker> s/:P/:) 14:57:05 <planetmaker> wrong smily 14:57:26 <Belugas> yeah :D 14:57:28 <Belugas> come over! 14:57:32 <Belugas> if you dare!! 14:58:05 <planetmaker> well... I think I dare in due time :) 15:00:19 <Belugas> ho boy... what a though... 15:00:38 <Belugas> how am i going to react when my son will ask me for a feature??? 15:02:50 <planetmaker> :D 15:04:00 <planetmaker> My dear son... a nice thought, but... :) 15:04:32 <planetmaker> My dear son... that's a great idea. Let's sit down and think it through :) 15:04:58 <Rubidium> My dear son... that's a great idea. Here's your first C++ book! 15:05:09 <planetmaker> hehehe :P 15:05:23 <Belugas> or... gimme a dozen beers, get mom outside and we'll do it toguether 15:05:52 <Belugas> and call uncle pete, to get him along 15:05:56 <Belugas> buwhahahaaa!!! 15:08:16 <planetmaker> hehe :) 15:08:48 <Belugas> does it show? i'm tired... 15:08:48 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:56 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:18:53 <planetmaker> you still sound ok at this end :) 15:27:37 <Belugas> liar ;) 15:28:21 <Rubidium> planetmaker: can't you see all the extra white on his expressions? 15:28:39 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:28:54 <planetmaker> Rubidium: that's only the eternal snow, I assume :P 15:29:01 <Belugas> no 15:29:03 <Belugas> white air 15:29:08 <Belugas> hair? 15:29:13 <Belugas> stuff that grows on my head 15:29:21 <planetmaker> :D 15:29:23 <Rubidium> I was more thinking about white space ;) 15:29:35 <Belugas> :D 15:29:38 <planetmaker> white hair is more than no hair :D 15:44:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 15:49:31 <petern> hmm 15:49:32 <petern> hungry 15:49:34 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:48 <petern> did someone say beer? 15:50:04 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:50:45 <Belugas> Me!! Me!! 15:50:52 <Belugas> but alas... it's all cold beer :S 15:51:55 <Rubidium> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Ursus_maritinus.jpg <- that's an "ijsbeer" ;) 15:51:58 <Rubidium> NSFB 15:52:03 <petern> mmmm, cold beer 15:53:47 <Belugas> yeah Rubidium :D 15:53:50 <Belugas> QUITE Cold! 15:54:32 <Rubidium> oh... there's also beer ice 15:54:59 <Belugas> we have a beer that is called Ice in here 15:58:25 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:28 <Belugas> time to go to lunch 16:00:47 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:05:22 <Aali> stupid stupid stupid glGenTextures 16:05:25 <petern> chilled ale, of course 16:05:29 <Aali> why are you crashing? 16:05:50 <petern> opengl blitter patch? 16:05:59 <Aali> not openttd related 16:06:02 <petern> ah, ok 16:06:03 <NukeBuster> wow, you are having that issue :) 16:06:05 <Aali> but god is it annoying 16:06:11 <NukeBuster> nice so am I with TE :P 16:06:20 <petern> using threads? 16:06:40 <Aali> honestly, I don't know 16:06:47 <Aali> I'm not using threads, but its a dll so 16:06:55 <NukeBuster> i think he is, it has something todo with creating textures out of the opengl rendering thread. 16:07:07 <NukeBuster> hmm.. 16:07:31 <Aali> is the gl context bound to the thread? 16:07:54 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 16:08:08 <NukeBuster> I haven't solved the issue for myself yet. But uzurpator told me that is why we are getting segfaults at that point. 16:08:40 <NukeBuster> are you getting a segfault? 16:09:14 <Aali> well its usually because you haven't set up a gl context, or because you haven't called glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D), but I'm 100% certain I've done that 16:09:17 <Aali> yes 16:09:34 <Aali> in some random code segment, my code isn't crashing 16:10:32 <NukeBuster> ok, but it happens on the line where you load the texture? 16:10:41 <Aali> yes 16:10:58 <NukeBuster> that is exactly the same issue as we are having... 16:11:00 <Aali> well 16:11:09 <Aali> glGenTextures doesn't load the texture 16:11:22 <Aali> but thats where its crashing 16:11:59 <NukeBuster> indeed, the glGenTextures doesn't load the texture 16:13:06 <petern> i breaks in openttd when it's called in a different thread 16:13:12 <petern> (with my patch) 16:13:34 <petern> maybe you just need a texture manager thread that handles all loading 16:14:06 <NukeBuster> aali, do you have an easy way to switch do directx (jusnt to try) 16:14:21 <NukeBuster> directx shouldn't have that issue 16:14:24 <petern> ew :p 16:14:29 <Aali> err 16:14:32 <glx> NukeBuster: different APIs 16:14:32 <Aali> that makes no sense 16:14:37 <NukeBuster> we are using Ogre 16:14:40 <Aali> I'm developing an opengl driver 16:14:42 <NukeBuster> ah 16:14:47 <Aali> the dx driver works fine 16:15:16 <glx> NukeBuster: then you don't use opengl or directx directly 16:15:25 <NukeBuster> no we don't 16:15:30 <NukeBuster> 0x042d7532 in glGenTextures () from /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 16:15:34 <NukeBuster> my segfault 16:15:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf66.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:16:31 <NukeBuster> my backtrace http://tempire.pastebin.com/m31d6817b 16:17:12 <NukeBuster> CreateInternalResources() is probably where it goes wrong. 16:17:49 <petern> most likely threading problems 16:17:59 <Aali> now I call wglMakeCurrent and glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D) just before glGenTextures 16:18:10 <petern> so are you TE dev now, or just trying to get it workign? 16:18:10 <Aali> so it's definitely in the same thread 16:18:22 <Aali> and I get no errors 16:18:25 <NukeBuster> just trying to get it working on linux :) 16:18:29 <Aali> just the crash 16:18:31 <petern> heh 16:18:56 <petern> cross platform coding? what's that? 16:19:05 <petern> # nothing can stop me now 16:19:12 <NukeBuster> thats the dev using MSVC :P 16:20:06 <petern> has uzurpator discovered coding style yet? 16:20:26 <NukeBuster> somewhat, but he apperently is unable to switch from spaces to tabs 16:20:26 <Belugas> -style 16:20:40 <NukeBuster> for indenting... 16:20:46 <petern> and he uses msvc? 16:20:50 <NukeBuster> yes 16:20:53 <petern> which basically forces style... 16:21:17 <NukeBuster> Aali have you run gdb on your segfault? 16:22:39 <petern> not much help with opengl :) 16:23:06 <NukeBuster> ah 16:23:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15856 /trunk/src/widget.cpp: -Fix (r15819): NWidgetLeaf constructor don't use the provided window caption string 16:24:06 <NukeBuster> Well, gotta cook some dinner. afk 16:26:57 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]] 16:29:37 <Belugas> burp 16:29:50 <Belugas> cooked and swallowed 16:31:26 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:31:38 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:45 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:32:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:41:57 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 16:45:30 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-away 16:51:24 <el_en> excuse you 16:51:43 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has joined #openttd 16:54:16 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:42 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:59:46 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:43 *** Belugas was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [YOU PIG! YOu could at least say sorry!] 17:04:00 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 17:04:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:05:29 *** Maarten- [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:05:39 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:48 *** artart78_ [~artart78@162.187.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:58 *** _ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:08 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> charm.oftc.net quits: ccfreak2k, DaleStan, Bergee, artart78, Guest12 17:10:20 <Belugas> farewell boys 17:11:37 *** Netsplit over, joins: Bergee 17:14:59 <petern> hm 17:15:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:31 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:36 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 17:20:20 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:24:36 <Aali> now I'm really confused 17:25:39 <Aali> glGenTextures is called in the same thread (double checked), wglGetCurrentContext does not return null, glEnable does not fail and yet it crashes every time 17:29:13 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:16 <petern> :D 17:31:20 <petern> dodgy textures? heh 17:31:30 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:06 <Aali> I would like to blame nvidia for making shitty drivers, but other opengl apps work so.. 17:36:11 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:39 <Belugas> is there anyone else you can blame? 17:52:54 <el_en> perhaps Bjarni? 17:53:21 <el_en> Aali: nvidia doesn't make shitty drivers, so... 17:53:58 <Aali> of course they do 17:54:23 <Aali> hardware vendors always make shitty drivers 17:55:17 <el_en> you are mistaken. 17:57:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:29 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:57:45 <Aali> hey, funny story, last time I updated my graphics drivers it made my system nearly unbootable so I had to revert to older drivers 17:57:59 <Aali> but thats real quality software, no doubt 17:59:06 <Aali> and by nearly unbootable I mean I could boot it and it actually worked fine, except the screen was full of random garbage leftover from my last boot 18:00:11 <Forked> I had that once ona hercules voodoo rush (6MB) .. if I ran diablo and quit the game righta way it was fine.. but I got a new one anyway =P oh how happy I was when they were out of the 6MB version and sent a 8MB card \o/ 18:07:52 <el_en> http://www.osor.eu/news/company-opens-development-airport-traffic-management-software 18:14:20 <Ammler> [german]http://www.yalmagazine.org/homepage/docs/openttd_-_das_urgestein_der_wirtschaftssimulationen_auf_dem_linuxsystem[/german] 18:15:37 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 18:15:55 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:16:13 <frosch123> hardly as bad as the dutch one, "simcity" is not even mentioned 18:16:51 <frosch123> though it dates ttd before railroad tycoon :) 18:21:10 <Ammler> I like the hint to the free download location of the original graphics ;-) 18:21:31 <frosch123> hehe, it sounds quite official :) 18:23:12 <Ammler> oh, yalm is as pdf available, the report there is nicer to read... 18:23:32 <Ammler> (http://www.yalmagazine.org/homepage/yalm/ueberblick_03/2009) 18:24:48 <Ammler> (Lord doesn't care: http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=3977&pid=52672#pid52672) 18:25:10 *** artart78_ is now known as artart78 18:25:28 <Ammler> [/germanlinks] 18:25:29 *** tkjacobsen_ [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 18:27:55 <Belugas> indeed... what's all about? 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19:05:54 <Darkvater> judging from the diffs it's just larger code ;) 19:07:14 <Rubidium> Darkvater: http://rbijker.net/openttd/img/3%20%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%A5%202050%20,%D7%9C%D7%9C%D7%90%20%D7%A9%D7%9D.png 19:07:27 <Rubidium> (that's part of it) 19:07:44 <Darkvater> that's a very readable link you got there :P 19:08:05 <Darkvater> ah, so prerequisite of RTL 19:08:39 <Rubidium> yes 19:08:51 <Rubidium> and... autosizing widgets depending on the content 19:08:57 * Darkvater notices the triangle should be flipped 19:09:13 <Darkvater> ah, that's cool though 19:09:29 <Rubidium> i.e. no overflows and no unneeded truncating anymore 19:09:47 <Darkvater> so is that train running at 112km/h or 211km/h 19:09:52 <Yexo> and the old widget arrays are just kept for reference (to compare old/new), they already can be removed 19:10:21 <Rubidium> Darkvater: 112 19:10:32 <Darkvater> Yexo: are you gonna add custom-shortcuts too :) 19:11:01 <Yexo> custom-shortcuts? 19:11:31 <Darkvater> so that people can define which shortcuts to use for what action 19:11:37 <Darkvater> eg B for autorail 19:11:40 <Rubidium> Darkvater: http://rbijker.net/openttd/rtl.diff <- it'll completely mess up some windows 19:11:42 <Yexo> I have no intention of coding that 19:11:49 <Yexo> although I agree it would be nice 19:12:33 <Belugas> was a patch for it on some dark forums corner, i beleive 19:12:35 <Darkvater> Rubidium: yeah I saw a screen of one of those on your website 19:13:33 <Darkvater> well keep up the good work :) 19:13:37 <Darkvater> he; sorry 19:21:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:21:39 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:42 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 19:25:36 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:56 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:31:30 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 19:32:14 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm84.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:43:29 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:44:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15859 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_cargo.hpp: -Documentation: Meaning of AICargo::CC_PASSENGERS wrt. bus- and truckstops, and meaning of AICargo::IsFreight() wrt. freight train weight multiplier. 19:45:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15860 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Add: AIRoad::GetRoadVehicleTypeForCargo() to tell whether a certain cargo needs a bus- or a truckstop. 19:52:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:52:39 *** tkjacobsen_ [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:38 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DF77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:28:57 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest225 20:28:59 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:41 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest226 20:29:42 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:50 *** Guest225 [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:18 <Zorni> y/server -m irc.quakenet.org 20:33:22 <Zorni> lol 20:34:27 <Belugas> ? 20:34:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-229-15.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:34:46 <Zorni> typo, sry 20:36:42 <Nite_Owl> not that it really matters given the small file size and the fast downloads but why do the servers (nightly at least) not support resuming 20:37:05 *** Guest226 [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:26 <Rubidium> resuming of what? 20:39:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15861 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Add NWID_HORIZONTAL_LTR that forces the ordering from left-to-right. 20:40:13 <Nite_Owl> resuming of the download 20:40:37 <Yexo> from the content server or savegames (when playing multiplayer)? 20:40:58 <Nite_Owl> nightlies 20:41:47 <Yexo> you mean downloading from http://binaries.openttd.org ?] 20:42:15 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:42:21 <Nite_Owl> not sure which server it is - linked off the main page 20:42:59 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:04 <Rubidium> oh... you mean the WEBSERVER 20:43:11 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:43:12 <Rubidium> that supports resuming just fine 20:43:46 <Rubidium> well... wget + webserver seem to be resuming just fine 20:44:50 <Nite_Owl> The one Yexo listed above comes up in GetRight as 'server does not support resume' 20:45:17 <Rubidium> then GetRight isn't right 20:45:46 <Nite_Owl> that is possible 20:46:21 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:54 *** Limpaar [~Limpaar@84-50-128-5-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 20:47:00 <Limpaar> Hello everyone 20:47:35 <Limpaar> can anyone give me a link where I can download OTTD 0.7.0 RC2 ? 20:47:44 <Yexo> try openttd.org 20:47:54 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:48:00 <Sacro> try google.com 20:48:04 <Yexo> on top, you'll see a link "Download testing (0.7.0-RC2)" 20:48:08 <Rubidium> try lmgtfy.com 20:48:33 <Sacro> hmm, mac.softpedia.com beats the official site 20:48:49 <Rubidium> in what way? 20:48:52 <Yexo> Sacro: that's specialistation for you 20:48:55 <Sacro> Yeah 20:49:01 <Sacro> Rubidium: height :P 20:49:13 <Yexo> when I search on google.nl, tweakers.net comes first, when I search via google.co.uk openttd.org is on top 20:50:15 <Limpaar> openttd.org shows only the news about 0.7.0 RC2 release ... but where can I download it 20:50:34 <Nite_Owl> top of the page 20:50:58 <Limpaar> oh sorry... I'm blind didn't see that 20:52:51 <Nite_Owl> Hmmm - GetRight resumes on other sites - very odd 20:53:47 *** Limpaar [~Limpaar@84-50-128-5-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:53:59 <Rubidium> Nite_Owl: http://paste.openttd.org/180951 <- really looks like resuming is working 20:55:26 <Nite_Owl> no denying that - it must be program specific 20:55:32 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEf261.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 20:55:52 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:59:27 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D457.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:01:38 <Yexo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=776051#p776051 <- too bad he didn't learn his lesson 21:02:53 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g227089201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:08:00 <Nite_Owl> Here is odd for you - GetRight gives the warning 'server does not support resume' (openttd.org) but if you actually do pause the download and then resume it it does actually resume 21:10:05 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227089201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:05 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 21:12:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15862 /trunk/src/ (dock_gui.cpp rail_gui.cpp road_gui.cpp): -Codechange: New widgets for the road, rail and ship depot guis. 21:26:51 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf66.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:01 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávánÃ. Odkudkoliv.] 21:33:34 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.48.180] has joined #openttd 21:46:34 <Combuster> hey devs 21:46:52 <Combuster> you know of anything that could cause cargo to be dropped at an unconnected station? 21:47:21 <Sacro> bored train 21:47:41 <Nite_Owl> if it is unconnected how did the cargo get there? 21:47:48 <Combuster> dunno 21:48:10 <Combuster> There are two industries 21:48:16 <Combuster> the station's connected to one 21:48:24 <Combuster> everything gets dropped at the other 21:48:30 <Sacro> oh god 21:48:33 <Nite_Owl> some industry must be in the catchment area 21:48:34 <Sacro> that bug XD 21:48:40 <Sacro> I think I've had that 21:48:50 <Sacro> where a random unconnected station gets things 21:48:58 <Sacro> mine was epic, it was powering a power plant 21:49:04 <Sacro> even though it wasn't being fed 21:49:14 <Combuster> There's some decent traffic around here 21:49:19 <Combuster> the thing is 21:49:30 <Combuster> the thing was connected previously 21:49:37 <Combuster> I moved the station to connected the other 21:51:52 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227089201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 21:52:25 <Nite_Owl> need to nap - later all 21:52:28 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:13:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15863 /trunk/src/statusbar_gui.cpp: -Fix (r15791): company money and game date strings were swapped on the statusbar 22:13:54 *** Timmaexx [~Timmaexx@port-92-192-11-68.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:14:31 *** Timmaexx [~Timmaexx@port-92-192-11-68.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #openttd [] 22:28:58 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 22:33:41 <eMjay88> morning all 22:33:53 <eMjay88> merry pants-off friday 22:34:20 <Yexo> morning eMjay88 22:34:24 <Yexo> it's not friday! :p 22:38:11 <SmatZ> in Soviet Russia, it's Friday 22:38:49 <Rubidium> in the summer it's friday too 22:38:57 <Chrill> In Soviet Russia, friday is you?? 22:45:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:48:07 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 22:48:17 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.48.180] has quit [] 22:51:14 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:14 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:07:18 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:00 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:14:32 *** racetrack [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has joined #openttd 23:16:21 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:16:51 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 23:17:04 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:26 <eMjay88> well, happy friday to those on this side of Greenwich 23:17:43 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DF77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 23:22:28 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 23:23:32 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has left #openttd [] 23:24:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:28:35 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has joined #openttd 23:29:23 <goodger> eMjay88: your advance friday greeting is noted and appreciated 23:41:27 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:31 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:45:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F7E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:55 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:09 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:47:37 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd