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00:04:34 *** _KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 00:08:42 *** DASPRiD_ [~dasprid@dasprids.de] has joined #openttd 00:09:28 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:09:28 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:29 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 00:09:48 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:10:32 *** DASPRiD [~dasprid@dasprids.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.183.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:25 *** KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:32 *** _KingJ is now known as KingJ 00:18:32 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAE97c5.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 00:23:53 *** PierreW^ [pierre@get-free-money-to-poker-with-at.no-deposit.info] has joined #openttd 00:24:07 *** PierreW is now known as going_to_hell 00:24:12 *** PierreW^ is now known as PierreW 00:24:35 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEf261.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:59 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAE97c5.bae.pppool.de] has left #openttd [] 00:46:53 <eMjay88> ok, so say my network admin has somehow set up the router to kick me from the wifi when I use bittorrent 00:47:02 <eMjay88> does anyone know how to get around this? 00:47:36 <glx> don't use bittorrent 00:48:24 <eMjay88> ok, does anyone know how to get around this AND keep using bittorrent? 00:48:37 <thingwath> protocol encryption may help :) 00:48:40 <glx> maybe it's just a bad router 00:48:48 <Rubidium> keep killing the network admin until the problem is fixed? 00:48:54 <eMjay88> I'm pretty sure it's already encrypted 00:49:09 <eMjay88> glx: you mean I'm crashing the router with bt traffic? 00:49:16 <glx> yes 00:49:26 <eMjay88> hmmm 00:49:53 <glx> some routers don't even support openttd traffic on wifi 00:50:01 <eMjay88> dmesg tells me "wlan1: No ProbeResp from current AP 00:13:46:c8:82:62 - assume out of range" 00:50:11 <eMjay88> that could indicate that the router died... 00:51:20 <glx> easy to check if someone else is connected on this router 00:51:39 <SmatZ> the problem can be many new connections in short period of time 00:52:04 <eMjay88> perhaps I can limit the bandwidth, and see if that fixes it... 00:52:14 <glx> half-connections indeed 00:52:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:52:43 <glx> you can limit them if you use a good bt client 00:52:51 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:51 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 00:53:11 <glx> (one having a setting for that) 00:53:14 <eMjay88> I use deluge atm, it's not fantastic but ok 00:53:22 <eMjay88> it does have bandwidth settings 00:53:42 <glx> it's probably not a bandwith problem 00:54:57 <glx> on µtorrent I just set net.max_half_open to 1 and windows no longer complains about TCP 00:55:25 <glx> maybe you have a similar setting 01:02:38 <eMjay88> I have max half-open connections, it is set to 8 (default) 01:02:58 <eMjay88> tooltip says: "A high value may crash some cheap routers" :P 01:03:23 <glx> try to set it to 1 :) 01:03:24 <thingwath> hm, ktorrent has something like "maximum number of connection setups", set to 50, and I have no idea what is it, possibly the same thing? 01:03:52 <eMjay88> do you think 200 is too high for maximum connections in general? 01:04:14 <glx> established connection != half_open 01:04:28 <eMjay88> i realise that :) 01:05:45 <glx> I have 600 as max and 100 per torrent 01:06:02 <glx> but only 1 halfopen :) 01:06:21 <thingwath> hm, 100 peers for a torrent, that can happen? :) 01:06:29 <glx> yes 01:13:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:13 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:15:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-229-15.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:21:49 <eMjay88> thingwath: depends how popular your torrents are 01:22:09 <glx> and how old 01:23:54 <eMjay88> how are half open connections used in bt? 01:23:55 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.89.142] has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 01:24:37 <eMjay88> is it kind of like udp? you send data and it doesn't get ACK'd? 01:25:59 <thingwath> I guess it's a state of the connection before you get the ACK 01:27:32 <eMjay88> w'pedia says it's when one end has closed the connection but not told the other end 01:28:00 <eMjay88> and then goes on to say that the remaining open end may not expect replies, keeping the connection persistently half-open 01:30:14 <eMjay88> anyway, glx, that seems to have worked 01:30:23 <eMjay88> although my speed is way down 01:30:26 <eMjay88> thanks :) 01:30:58 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177226153.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:35:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:35:51 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:35:54 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:38:22 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177237197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:05 *** kalasmannen [~kalasmann@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:18 *** kalasmannen [~kalasmann@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 01:48:15 *** snorre [~snorre@cF6FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:48:15 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|PER 01:55:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15864 /trunk/src/company_gui.cpp: -Codechange: add some 'invisible' widgets on company finances window, and use them to determine where to draw strings instead using some magic values 02:07:45 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 02:33:08 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 02:38:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:38:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38:44 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 02:52:38 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:59:41 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 03:08:41 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:43 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:17:30 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:21:43 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21:44 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:35:17 *** sadasdeq234q [~sadasdeq2@78.147.230.21] has joined #openttd 03:35:22 <sadasdeq234q> anyone here ? 03:38:58 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:16 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42:56 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:49:25 <eMjay88> sadasdeq234q: hello 03:51:42 *** sadasdeq234q [~sadasdeq2@78.147.230.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:57:40 <eMjay88> bye 04:03:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03:48 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:08:52 <goodger> >.< 04:24:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:24:34 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:24:37 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 04:33:09 *** racetrack [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:53:48 *** Sacro_ [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 05:00:41 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:06:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:06:22 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06:25 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 05:14:39 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:20:48 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 05:36:02 *** _ccfreak2k is now known as ccfreak2k 05:36:18 *** ccfreak2k is now known as _ccfreak2k 05:36:37 *** _ccfreak2k is now known as ccfreak2k 05:47:44 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:47:59 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:10:37 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:10:37 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:10:40 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 06:20:00 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm204.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:22:07 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22:25 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23:05 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:16 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:33:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:33:14 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33:18 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 06:37:45 <dihedral> morning 06:37:56 <goodger> morning dihedral 06:39:27 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 06:41:38 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:41 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 06:55:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:55:52 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:55 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:08:55 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:12:10 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227089201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:59 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:20:59 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21:02 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:28:51 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:41 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:22 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:53:25 <planetmaker> good morning 07:54:41 <Pikka> goodbye! D: 07:54:43 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 07:56:39 *** snorre [~snorre@cF6FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 08:00:23 <dihedral> \o/ a planetmaker ^^ 08:00:31 <dihedral> make us another earth 08:00:39 <dihedral> one that is not full of garbage 08:00:43 <dihedral> and hurry 08:00:47 <dihedral> and ... ^^ 08:00:55 <planetmaker> dihedral: it was destroyed... making place for a galactic highway :( 08:01:06 <dihedral> stupid mice 08:01:37 <petern> always happens 08:01:41 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm204.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: OH NOO] 08:02:02 <dihedral> ^ can we not remove the Singa ^^ 08:02:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:02:53 <dihedral> ^ and here s/Com/Peer/ :-P 08:03:07 <petern> ... 08:03:26 <dihedral> <- has a happy-day today 08:03:32 <petern> you can't remove him, he just left 08:03:35 <dihedral> dont ask me why - probably must a bit too tired 08:04:17 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07:49 <goodger> planetmaker: however, the recent invention of the Infinite Improbability Drive made all hyperspace bypasses obsolete. DUN DUN DUHHHHH! 08:08:29 <goodger> dihedral: you do seem particularly hyperactive today 08:08:40 <planetmaker> which will give a huge boost to the coffee industry... 08:09:13 <goodger> nah, dihedral _waking up_ gives a huge boost to the coffee industry 08:09:15 <dihedral> me being hyperactive will give a boost to the coffee industry? 08:09:21 <dihedral> ^^ 08:09:23 <dihedral> pffft 08:09:30 <dihedral> what i need, is a cup of tea ^^ 08:09:39 <dihedral> and a towl 08:09:56 <goodger> a towel! 08:10:01 <dihedral> yes that 08:10:03 <goodger> what a frood you are ~ 08:10:16 <goodger> how very hoopy. 08:10:27 <dihedral> hoppy 08:10:29 <dihedral> ^^ 08:11:06 <goodger> you are hopping, perhaps 08:12:45 <petern> has orudge actually read it yet? 08:12:51 <petern> orudge lad! 08:13:00 <Sacro_> goodger: are you calling another male a hoopy frood? 08:13:33 <Sacro_> well at least you've not mentioned sassing him 08:13:44 <goodger> Sacro_: although I am gay, I don't believe "hoopy" or "frood" mean sexually attractive. only "sass" was mentioned to mean "have sex with" 08:13:55 <Sacro_> well, meet/be attracted to/have sex with 08:14:18 <goodger> know, be aware of, have sex with 08:14:20 <Sacro_> you are gay? :o 08:14:29 <goodger> yes, aren't you? 08:14:33 <Sacro_> no 08:14:34 <Sacro_> :( 08:14:36 <goodger> ^ standard response 08:14:48 <Sacro_> ^ also standard response 08:14:52 <goodger> XD 08:15:54 <goodger> I wore a suit clumsily constructed from a shirt, tie, formal trousers, blazer and oxford shoes to college recently, just to irritate the staff; people asked me "why are you wearing a suit?"; I'd reply "why aren't you?" 08:16:09 <goodger> that shut them up quite neatly 08:16:14 <Sacro_> hmm, 450 words, not bad 08:16:27 <Sacro_> i might suit up for uni 08:16:27 <goodger> petern: has owen read what? 08:16:42 <petern> hhgttg 08:16:58 <goodger> ah... 08:17:00 <petern> i admit, it is quite inconceivable that someone hasn't 08:17:06 <goodger> yep 08:17:17 <goodger> Sacro_: it irritates the hell out of senior staff members who use it as a status symbol 08:18:43 <petern> i haven't ever worn a suit 08:19:17 <Sacro_> lol 08:19:22 <goodger> wait... why did you :( when asked if you were gay? are you dissatisfied with heterosexuality? 08:19:35 * Forked gets the popcorn 08:19:52 <goodger> a fitted suit is, in theory, the most comfortable clothing a person can wear; it keeps the spine in place, for one thing 08:19:58 <petern> it's just a joke, Sacro_'s raging with the best of them 08:20:08 <goodger> wha? 08:20:35 <goodger> raging >.< 08:21:06 <dihedral> Sacro_, you might want to reconsider your answer to "yes, aren't you [gay]?" 08:21:12 <dihedral> i really thought you were 08:21:20 <dihedral> i am sure Bjarni would also second that 08:21:22 <petern> why? 08:21:23 <petern> who cares? 08:21:30 <goodger> XD 08:21:31 <dihedral> i am just kidding petern 08:21:40 <goodger> commotion /o/ 08:21:43 <dihedral> teasing Sacro is a bunch of run 08:21:48 <dihedral> *fun 08:21:56 <petern> at least he's not a christian 08:22:14 <petern> JUST KIDDING! 08:22:18 <goodger> I'm sure a substantially larger proportion than 6% of tt-forums members are gay; it's just not generally relevant 08:22:35 <dihedral> petern, nice one :-D 08:22:37 <dihedral> hihi 08:22:53 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 08:23:05 <goodger> however, I find that the best way to deal with a joking insinuation that I'm gay is to say I am; then people tend to become very flustered and embarrassed \o/ 08:23:25 <dihedral> goodger, 6% is not that much, when you consider that about 20-25% of the forum users are real idiots 08:23:34 <dihedral> possibly even more ^^ 08:23:42 <petern> 99% 08:23:52 <dihedral> uh 08:23:52 <dihedral> ok 08:23:55 <petern> which just proves that 5.9% of idiots are gay 08:23:55 <goodger> well, 6% is the proportion of Britons who'll admit to it on a government form 08:24:02 <petern> STATISTICS ARE GREAT 08:24:22 <goodger> I'm sure that the actual figure is far higher, and that the actual figure is the same worldwide... 08:24:32 <dihedral> if they asked my cousin, he would fail at ticking [ ] male [ ] female 08:24:40 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:44 <petern> dihedral, there are 17000 registered users 08:24:48 <petern> 17910 in fact 08:25:00 <dihedral> would either be [x] male [x] female, or even [ ] male x [ ] female 08:25:02 <goodger> dihedral: admittedly, some people do not self-identify as either of those... 08:25:15 <goodger> gah, /me must go to college now 08:25:21 <petern> 99% leaves ~ 200 non-idiot users 08:25:25 <petern> which sounds about right ;) 08:25:30 <goodger> let us continue this most enlightening conversation later 08:25:38 <dihedral> he's currently in the state of .... 'transforming' 08:25:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:26:06 <petern> transistioning, it is called 08:26:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:12 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 08:26:28 <goodger> byee/// 08:26:33 <dihedral> i wanted to be humorous petern 08:26:37 <dihedral> have a nice day goodger 08:26:42 <goodger> I shan't... 08:26:43 <petern> oh yeah, LOL!!L!L!!!1111 08:26:57 <goodger> </reginaldperrinquote> 08:28:22 <petern> ah, i am within the top 200 users, heh 08:28:59 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=776087#p776087 <- HAHA .... too good 08:30:38 <Gekz> lol. 08:30:48 <petern> dihedral is 194th, hah 08:31:11 <petern> okay i guess top 200 posters is not the right condition :p 08:33:11 <dihedral> lol 08:34:59 <dihedral> petern, where do you see that? 08:35:15 <petern> in the userlist, sorted by posts, heh 08:35:34 <petern> "Members" 08:36:55 <Sacro_> Hmm, think I'm about done with this ACW 08:37:04 <Sacro_> less than an hour to get it handed in :( 08:37:17 <Sacro_> need to find a paper wallet 08:40:03 <petern> been up all night finishing it? 08:40:31 <dihedral> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/om_nom_nom_nom.jpg <- the pics here are funny ^^ 08:46:03 *** Sacro_ [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro_] 08:50:11 <petern> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/manly.jpg 08:50:12 <petern> okay 08:50:16 <petern> that makes me want to throw up :/ 08:51:07 <Forked> I'm hungry 08:54:08 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 08:59:48 <dihedral> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/nerds.jpg 09:00:41 <dihedral> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/link-wall.jpg <- that is awesome!! 09:02:07 <Gekz> Tiles 09:03:48 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 09:07:31 <Gekz> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/michaeljfox32.jpg/1238144922 09:08:39 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:25 <dihedral> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/ireboot.jpg 09:14:02 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:16:21 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:42 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:27:45 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:48 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:37:01 <petern> pom te pom 09:45:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:46:16 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 09:57:25 <eQualizer> There isn't any way to know in-game which airplanes are suitable for small airfield? 09:57:54 <Aali> yes there is 09:58:26 <Sacro> eQualizer: if they crash and burn then they are too big 09:58:46 <eQualizer> ...besides that. 09:59:36 <Aali> the easiest solution is to set different company colours for small/big aircraft 10:00:19 <Aali> but IIRC, once you've built the airplane you can see it in the vehicle details window 10:04:08 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 10:07:26 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 10:13:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:16:06 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 10:19:50 <Cybertinus> you can have big airplanes on a small airfield? 10:19:52 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:52 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 10:20:11 <Cybertinus> The chance that they chrash is only a lot bigger, which costs a lot of money :) 10:23:38 <dihedral> a 'required runway length' info when looking at the stats when wanting to buy would be nice :-P 10:26:28 <petern> there's only one h in crash 10:26:50 <dihedral> perhaps he's swiss 10:26:56 <Cybertinus> no, Dutch :) 10:31:06 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:40 <Aali> don't you mean Dhutch? 10:33:39 <Ammler> dihedral: :P 10:33:59 <dihedral> hihi :-) 10:34:11 <dihedral> at least someone got the pun 10:35:49 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 10:47:50 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 10:48:01 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 10:52:22 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 10:56:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:01:40 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:40 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 11:11:21 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 11:16:20 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 11:16:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.164.242] has joined #openttd 11:18:47 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:19:37 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [] 11:19:45 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:45 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 11:33:45 *** sadsadsadas [~sadsadsad@78.149.251.245] has joined #openttd 11:36:40 <sadsadsadas> anyone here ? I need help, I enabled modifying production cheat but I cannot see any place to actualy modify production at all, using nightly, ecs 11:38:44 <Aali> that won't work with ECS 11:40:38 <Ammler> ECS is easy anyway, no need to cheat ;-) 11:41:04 <Aali> indeed 11:41:10 <Ammler> :-D 11:41:33 <Ammler> just the grf parameters to 15 15 11:44:16 <Ammler> if you have a "strong", you could join the #openttdcoop server and finish the game, nobody else is able to ;-) 11:44:24 <Ammler> client* 11:44:42 <Aali> really? 11:44:46 <Aali> noone can join? 11:44:58 <Ammler> well, not many anymore 11:45:14 <Ammler> looks like ECS almost double the cpu usage 11:46:09 <Aali> well its a big game 11:46:12 <Aali> huge map 11:46:15 <Aali> no wonder 11:46:32 <sadsadsadas> same here 11:46:42 <sadsadsadas> i had to remove ai's 11:47:13 <Aali> I guess you dont have 995 trains though 11:48:32 <sadsadsadas> no, but over 1k buses (removed them), over 100 planes 11:49:09 <sadsadsadas> just cannot figure out how to transport fish from fishing ground, no ship is capable of ransporting fish ://// 11:49:30 <Aali> ships suck anyway 11:50:17 <Gekz> http://www.overclockers.com.au/pic.php?pic=images/newspics/27mar/1.jpg 11:50:34 <Ammler> sadsadsadas: old waggons, new vehicels 11:50:38 <Ammler> .grf 11:51:00 <Ammler> or the newships from mb 11:51:38 <sadsadsadas> ships suck, but cargo is precious 11:51:59 <sadsadsadas> I got 2CC ships 11:53:02 <Aali> there's nothing to stop you from moving that precious fish by train 11:53:29 <Ammler> 2cc isn't even in beta state, afaik 11:53:59 <sadsadsadas> trains in the middle of atlantic ocean ? no thanks :P 11:54:05 <dihedral> Gekz, skype has a privacy setting 11:54:23 <dihedral> anybody who does not use it is stupid enough to have deserved such a chat ^^ 11:55:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:14 *** sadsadsadas [~sadsadsad@78.149.251.245] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 11:55:38 *** sadsadsadas [~sadsadsad@78.149.251.245] has joined #openttd 11:58:26 <Ammler> sadsadsadas: also possible to use multiple ship sets 11:59:50 <sadsadsadas> i hope yes, because I cannot use multiple train sets anymore :/ 12:00:11 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has joined #openttd 12:00:15 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:00:39 <dihedral> sadsadsadas, settings! 12:03:02 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db03c81.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:03:47 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:09 <sadsadsadas> which settings ? 12:07:38 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:07:45 <Forked> heya racetrack :) 12:07:50 <racetrack> evening 12:08:16 <Forked> just compiled your latest diff.. posting win32 binary now (I'm just assuming thats fine with you :p) 12:09:18 <racetrack> oh absolutely, the code is out there :) if nothing else it shuts my brother up, who claims to want to try it but would prefer whinging at me to setting up build environment etc 12:09:26 <racetrack> as for me, I wouldn't have a clue - no windows here 12:10:01 <Forked> bah. still can't upload files bigger than 2MB to the forum .. there goes the counter. 12:11:47 *** lolman is now known as Guest307 12:11:59 *** lolman [~johnuk89@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 12:13:03 *** lolman [~johnuk89@150.237.48.99] has quit [] 12:13:05 <sadsadsadas> dammit, still not good enough, I am looking for a way to increase production of an industry 12:13:19 <sadsadsadas> what ecs can do is to make resources unlimited and dont close industry 12:13:28 <sadsadsadas> but does not effect the production level 12:16:39 <dihedral> sadsadsadas -> forums ;-) 12:17:06 <Rubidium> ls 12:17:22 <dihedral> wrong window :-P 12:17:48 <Rubidium> no kiddin' 12:19:25 <Forked> so uh.. lots of <cr>'s .. and: "rubidium@svn.openttd.org's password:" .. think he would fall for it? :\ 12:19:40 <Forked> spaces perhaps, anyway nevermind 12:19:57 <petern> ls doesn't generally require a password... 12:19:58 <Rubidium> Forked: unlikely 12:20:14 <Forked> uhm no, but a login window might 12:21:07 <Ammler> Forked: forums file limit is bigger then 3.2 MB at least 12:22:09 <Ammler> (my size of a openttd bundle) 12:22:44 <Forked> Ammler: It complains about a setting in php.ini when I try to upload a 3.2(ish)MB zip now 12:23:12 <Ammler> oh, maybe since the update 12:23:27 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 12:25:34 <Ammler> orudge: ^ 12:28:43 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.222.123] has joined #openttd 12:29:46 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:20 <Ammler> :-o drive through a depot without slowdown? 12:33:54 <Ammler> (something for Belugas ;-) 12:34:26 <Rubidium> no, but it's realistic for train to pass a depot at 640 km/h 12:42:00 <dihedral> Rubidium, sure, they dont even need to work at conveyor belts anymore :P 12:43:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:38 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:43:46 <petern> sirkoz at it again? 12:44:13 <sadsadsadas> dihedral: I tried to search forums for clues but couldn't find anything, any suggestions where to look ? 12:44:14 <racetrack> Ammler: haven't finished it yet, thats next on my list 12:45:12 <Ammler> sadsadsadas: [12:41] <Ammler> just the grf parameters to 15 15 12:45:16 <dihedral> sadsadsadas, yes, behind the 'post reply' button in the ecs thread 12:45:30 <sadsadsadas> Ammler, but parameteres does not alter prouction itself 12:45:45 <Ammler> well, that needs "playing" the game 12:45:52 <Ammler> or do you want just watch it? 12:46:49 <Ammler> maybe you should play "The Transporter.avi" then 12:53:06 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 12:54:09 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has joined #openttd 12:55:25 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:43 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has joined #openttd 13:01:37 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 13:03:20 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:25 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:04:25 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:29 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:07:36 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: no. just, no.] 13:13:26 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051008104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:14:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:14:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:20:25 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DE0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:44 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227089201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:44 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:26:12 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:26:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:15 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:26:51 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:10 *** Maarten- [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:22 *** Maarten- [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:35:38 *** sadsadsadas [~sadsadsad@78.149.251.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:53 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db03c81.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: brb] 13:54:08 <Belugas> hello 13:55:20 <Sacro> Morning 13:59:42 <dihedral> hi Belugas 13:59:52 <dihedral> your message made me laugh ^^ 14:03:33 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DE0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:24 <planetmaker> he... Nekomaster-like behaviour seems to spread: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=776216#p776216 14:05:25 <planetmaker> I shouldn't have read posts of people on my ignore list... 14:05:26 <Belugas> which one dihedral? 14:06:58 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:07:13 <Forked> "Skillz, I haz it but.." makes no sense :p 14:07:24 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:12:21 * Belugas guesses it's part of a tentative to look cool 14:12:38 <Belugas> failed miserably, if you ask me 14:15:46 <Forked> planetmaker: he did type please :) 14:22:38 <planetmaker> Forked: fair enough :) 14:27:43 <orudge> Ammler: thanks for the highlight, heh 14:27:46 <orudge> forgot about checking that 14:28:09 <Ammler> it rolled back to the old setting 2MB 14:28:21 <orudge> should be fixed now I hope 14:28:34 <Ammler> what is max? 14:28:58 <Ammler> shouldn't be below 4, imo. 14:29:01 <orudge> 4MB 14:29:05 <Ammler> :-) 14:29:24 <Sacro> should be enough for anyone 14:29:46 <Ammler> noai rised it around 10% 14:30:47 <Ammler> well, you could also remove the language files to drop around 30% 14:31:14 <petern> rised! 14:31:34 <Forked> orudge: thank you :) 14:31:46 <planetmaker> thx, orudge 14:32:24 *** Turnskin [~x@vpn-pool-78-139-218-137.homenets.tomtelnet.ru] has joined #openttd 14:32:27 <Turnskin> Hi all! 14:32:59 <Ammler> hmm, "have risen"? 14:33:18 <Forked> raised? 14:34:02 <Turnskin> First i would thank every GRF maker here for their exellent work :) 14:34:28 <Ammler> another British American difference? 14:35:27 <Turnskin> 'cause i'm trying to set grf pack properly 4 hours already :) would to have all features included. 14:36:07 <Belugas> [10:35] <Turnskin> First i would thank every GRF maker here for their exellent work :) <--- yeah... and the devs?? prrrrrt 14:36:11 <Turnskin> My today question is: which is the limit for GRFs for the OTTD 0.7? 14:36:27 <planetmaker> raised, I think, Ammler :) 14:36:35 <Turnskin> Belugas And the Developers too of course! 14:36:53 <glx> number of files? 14:36:58 <Turnskin> Thank you all! 14:37:09 <planetmaker> 64 afaik 14:37:29 <glx> more like 62 :) 14:37:33 <Turnskin> Something but 100 14:37:38 <Turnskin> in my list 14:37:52 <planetmaker> Turnskin: are you sure they all make concurrently sense? 14:37:53 <Belugas> [10:38] <Turnskin> Belugas And the Developers too of course! <-- Ahhh better :) 14:38:04 <Turnskin> Including nice OpenGFX 14:38:18 <Belugas> yes, only 62 files only 14:38:20 <glx> they are base brfs 14:38:24 <glx> *grfs 14:38:29 <glx> not newgrfs 14:38:41 <planetmaker> something learnt again thanks to Belugas and glx :) 14:39:28 *** Turnskin_ [~x@vpn-pool-78-139-218-137.homenets.tomtelnet.ru] has joined #openttd 14:39:29 *** Turnskin [~x@vpn-pool-78-139-218-137.homenets.tomtelnet.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:40 <Turnskin_> Sorry, VPN errors 14:40:43 <Turnskin_> I would to test and to enjoy all the spectre of vehicles, trains and stations as well as OpenGFX but i can't :( 14:41:20 <planetmaker> yeah, don't use all at the same time. 14:41:44 <planetmaker> Especially vehicle newgrfs tend to produce many unwanted side-effects (cross-talk), if used concurrently 14:43:09 *** ameno [~ameno@chello062178213196.10.15.tuwien.teleweb.at] has joined #openttd 14:45:45 <Ammler> most sets should be used exclusive in the category they modify 14:46:18 <ameno> is there any way to close the last opened window or the last window you interacted with? 14:46:34 <ameno> i tend to hit esc all the time, but those nasty windows dont vanish :) 14:46:40 <planetmaker> the most notable exception in categories is station sets. They work nicely along eachother 14:46:58 <planetmaker> ameno: del ? 14:47:09 <ameno> del closes all... 14:47:12 <Ammler> that deletes all 14:47:21 <planetmaker> oh, ok :) 14:47:30 <ameno> i noticed, that openttd, does not have a "current" window 14:47:35 <ameno> as most winow managers do 14:47:37 <planetmaker> I usually open a bunch, sticky one and close all :) 14:47:46 <ameno> therefore i asked about the "last opened" one :) 14:47:59 *** Turnskin [~x@vpn-pool-78-139-218-130.homenets.tomtelnet.ru] has joined #openttd 14:48:10 <Ammler> hmm, didn't zuu patch something like that? 14:48:28 <ameno> yeah... but i thought its quite annoying and wondered if im the only one, that thinks so :) 14:48:31 <petern> ahhh, pepsi max 14:48:47 *** Turnskin_ [~x@vpn-pool-78-139-218-137.homenets.tomtelnet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:49 <petern> not quite the liquid lunch i was hoping for... 14:49:04 <Turnskin> BTW, i posted my idea in http://forums.ttdrussia.net about plugin based code of OTTD. 14:50:15 <Turnskin> It means that anybody can write his own algorythm of pathfinding etc in his preferrable lang and use different versions in low level, simply 14:50:25 <Turnskin> turning the pulgin on and off 14:50:54 <glx> Turnskin: and how can that work on multi platform? 14:51:10 <Turnskin> glx It's another problem :) 14:51:59 <Turnskin> But e.g.i dislike modern situation with the signals at all. 2-way signals are not only the "2-way" but also are pointers to a train as 14:52:15 <Turnskin> "can go but not must" 14:52:19 <Turnskin> . 14:53:40 <Turnskin> But i could write a plugin in Delphi, e.g. getting path scheme with all signals and returning a way to a train must go. 14:53:54 <Turnskin> 'cause i don't know C :( 14:54:19 <SmatZ> what can be done is company-specific pathfinder settings 14:54:20 <Belugas> I Know Delphi too. At one point, i did not knew C. I leared 14:54:23 <SmatZ> but not plugins 14:54:25 <Belugas> learned 14:54:44 <Belugas> in fact, i work in Delphi... 14:54:49 <Turnskin> Well, my VPN continues to be crazy... So please repeat, does the 64+- GRF is the limit? 14:54:50 <glx> anyway all clients must do the same thing in multiplayer 14:55:00 <glx> the limit is 62 14:55:08 <SmatZ> like, that "custom" pathfinder is not possible 14:55:16 <Turnskin> glx OK, thanx. 14:55:21 <glx> well 62 open files :) 14:55:32 <glx> but a tar with mutliple grfs count for 1 14:55:49 <Turnskin> glx Ooh, cool! 14:56:21 <Ammler> :-o 14:56:39 <Turnskin> glx Does it understand a .tar as directory (with separate GRFs are exluded in list)? 14:56:40 <petern> you've given Ammler ideas... 14:56:45 <Ammler> hehe 14:57:05 <Ammler> well, my vps has "open files limit" :-) 14:57:08 <Belugas> Ammler? Ideas?? 14:57:12 * Belugas runs away!! 14:57:38 <Ammler> I keep my ideas quite down lately... 14:57:49 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:57:50 <glx> ho and the 62 limit includes basegrf too (that's why I have TTD files in a tar ;) ) 14:58:11 <petern> and the 62 limit is arbitrary :D 14:58:16 <glx> true 15:00:02 <Ammler> I once reached that limit, as I made the wwottdgd scenario, but it was lower at that time, somewhere around 50 15:01:01 <petern> it used to be 30, or so 15:01:05 <Belugas> arbitraty? Isn't it linked to a limit on the IP protocol? I may be wrong, though 15:01:07 <Turnskin> Hey, another idea :) Does anybody work in many-industries direction? I mean the same GRF understanding by OTTD as it's for vehicles. 15:01:08 <Ammler> or 30, possible 15:01:14 <petern> oh 15:01:20 <petern> hmm 15:01:24 <petern> there's that too 15:01:26 <Ammler> it is quite hard to configure that many newgrfs 15:01:34 <petern> i could do it 15:01:50 <SmatZ> it was lower bevause there were more OTTD grfs than just openttd.grf (now all of them are in openttd.grf) 15:01:53 <Belugas> Turnskin: many-industries? waht do you mean? 15:02:54 <Turnskin> Belugas I mean user could include many industrial GRF together and they will work together. E.g. ECS+New cargoes+Pikka's industries. 15:03:40 <Turnskin> Using same GRF ID internally, but OTTD will use reference table. As for vehicles GRFs. 15:04:03 *** Guest307 is now known as lolman 15:04:17 <Turnskin> Ha! Another my idea as the gift for you 15:04:18 <petern> no, nobody's working on that 15:04:19 <Turnskin> ^) 15:04:20 <Belugas> Turnskin, i think you do not know how the system works... 15:04:34 <Turnskin> It's XML b 15:04:38 <Turnskin> ased 15:04:39 <glx> hmm I think PNG_SLOT may conflict with grfs 15:04:40 <petern> iirc it already works like that, just theres a limited number of slots 15:04:43 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 15:04:47 <Belugas> vehicles and industries are two different beasts 15:04:55 <Turnskin> (Sticky ENTER key :( ) 15:05:11 <petern> eww 15:05:22 <Belugas> XML based what? 15:05:29 <Turnskin> The idea is XML based GRFs, saves and scenarios. 15:05:37 <Turnskin> Packed by free zlib. 15:05:37 <Belugas> no freaking fucking way 15:05:49 <Belugas> forget it, don't even dream on it 15:06:01 <Turnskin> This way anybody could change anything in this. 15:06:04 <Belugas> and don't even ask why, this debate is closed, once and or all 15:06:16 <Rubidium> Turnskin: and then wait half a day just to download a GRF? 15:06:19 <glx> anybody can modify grfs already :) 15:06:22 <Turnskin> Ahhh... I'm not the first :( 15:06:31 <Belugas> God no 15:06:57 <petern> unfortunately, not the last 15:07:02 <SmatZ> neither the last :( 15:07:05 <Belugas> yeah :( 15:07:07 <Turnskin> Rubidium I thought in this - compressed XML is not very large. 15:07:21 <Turnskin> OK, i understand... 15:07:30 <Rubidium> Turnskin: compressed XML with binary crap, but that's just faking the use of XML 15:07:58 <Turnskin> Well, this way: how can i modify saves?? 15:08:07 <Belugas> you cannot 15:08:09 <Turnskin> E.g. from old version 15:08:15 <glx> save it as uncompressed 15:08:20 <Rubidium> i.e. how to define a signal? 15:08:24 <Turnskin> Belugas Thus i thought to XML :) 15:08:25 <glx> and use an hex editor 15:08:27 <Belugas> unless you really know what you are doing using a debugger or else 15:08:31 <Ammler> [16:03] <Turnskin> Belugas I mean user could include many industrial GRF together and they will work together. E.g. ECS+New cargoes+Pikka's industries. <-- good idea, as ECS alone is way too few anyway... :-D 15:08:48 <SmatZ> hehe 15:09:02 <Belugas> nowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynowaynoway 15:09:06 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet708.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:09:14 <goodger> *tic* 15:09:20 <glx> Ammler: yes it's too easy to make money with ECS ;) 15:09:30 <Forked> tomorrow it's 10 years since the first futurama episode aired (Space Pilot 3000) :-) 15:09:30 <Rubidium> <signal><type>block</type><direction>north east</direction></signal 15:09:55 <Rubidium> now I add a new type of signal... but the old version doesn't know about it... how to convert? 15:09:58 <petern> Ben Goodger and the Mysterious Ticking Noise 15:10:38 <Rubidium> hmm... lets do a proof of concept kinda thing ;) 15:10:44 <Turnskin> Rubidium You simply open XML editor and set params and atts manually. 15:10:53 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 15:10:53 <goodger> petern: tics, not ticks :P 15:11:02 <petern> Ticing Noise? 15:11:03 <petern> :o 15:11:20 <Ammler> Turnskin: try to make a game with one or two vectors of ECS, if that is too less, add another vector... 15:11:24 <petern> the noise of a nervous muscle spasm... 15:11:28 <Turnskin> BTW, there is the parameter of the daylength in OTTD 0.7? 15:11:31 <goodger> well, I am sometimes given to sharp intakes of breath when tic-ing...? 15:11:37 <petern> no 15:11:54 <Rubidium> Turnskin: any idea how big it'd become? 15:12:27 <petern> quick, modify SlObject to use xml! 15:12:36 <Turnskin> Ammler Due to this question i had a situation with simple PIkka's industries and MB's New Cargoes. I would to have electrostation and Fishing grounds together. 15:13:20 <Ammler> mb's new cargo is a experimental grf... 15:13:25 <Rubidium> Turnskin: and you think you can easily find the places where you need to make the changes? 15:13:49 <Turnskin> <sgn type=1 dir=8/> 15:14:13 <glx> signals are not stored as signals :) 15:14:24 <Turnskin> It was an example. 15:14:40 <SmatZ> Turnskin: no no and no 15:14:44 <glx> they are signals because the game read them as signals 15:14:53 <Rubidium> Turnskin: what does 1 mean? 15:14:57 <SmatZ> one could save SlDesc tables in the savegame too 15:15:08 <SmatZ> but still it would be meaningless - there are internal things that are changing 15:15:09 <Turnskin> I mentioned XML 'cause i work with it in databases and find it very nice mechanism. 15:15:10 <Rubidium> what does 8 mean? 15:15:49 <petern> personally i use sql with databases... 15:15:50 <glx> Turnskin: XML is useful for only one thing, passing data from one system to another 15:15:58 <SmatZ> like, how would you convert current games to pre-cargopacket ones? 15:16:00 <Belugas> xml and databases? what a silly scheme 15:16:29 <Turnskin> But 1 and 8 means "Signal" and "NE" in this version. But "PBS" and "NEE" in later. And one can use XSLT for automatic conversion. 15:16:48 <SmatZ> one can just compile newer OTTD version 15:17:07 <glx> OTTD is smart enough to convert old saves on load 15:17:36 <Rubidium> Turnskin: ofcourse if you would have used PROPER XML instead of BINARY XML you wouldn't need the XSLT in this case 15:17:59 <Turnskin> One must download compiler, source, librares, be well-known in compilling... 15:18:11 <SmatZ> "programming XML dabases" is something different than "programming OTTD in C/C++" 15:18:16 <SmatZ> *ta 15:19:16 <glx> why anybody would want to edit savegames anyway? 15:19:27 <Rubidium> Turnskin: just for 'comparison' I've made a dump of the map array in ASCII with some VERY repetitive headers. Using zlib with maximum compression yields a 690 KiB file. 15:19:48 <Belugas> ask that to Leander, glx :) he goofed and want to clean it ;) 15:20:07 <Rubidium> the savegame that contains the map AND all vehicles is only 136 KiB 15:20:27 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-coding 15:22:14 *** Turnskin [~x@vpn-pool-78-139-218-130.homenets.tomtelnet.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:41 <Rubidium> discussion reset by pulling out the ethernet cable ;) 15:22:55 <SmatZ> :o) good 15:28:08 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 15:34:47 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 15:35:14 <pavel1269> does any train attitude change with changing debug/relase build? 15:35:50 <glx> should not 15:42:18 <petern> attitude does not mean the same as behaviour 15:44:28 <SmatZ> simply, there shouldn't be a desync between "release" and "debug" builds in MP 15:45:56 <taisteluorava> heh, i played openttd with nokia x5800, works perfectly on 640x360 resolution and touchscreen is very accurate 15:46:44 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:04 <taisteluorava> and its pretty quick to move around map and build with touchscreen 15:48:40 <glx> taisteluorava: some windows are too big for it I guess 15:49:12 <taisteluorava> no, only news take half of screen, but i disabled those, its perfect to play now 15:49:44 <taisteluorava> widescreen ofc 15:50:08 <glx> well 640 and wide ;) 15:50:08 <taisteluorava> and 640x360 resolution is high enought, even toolbar fit perfectly 15:50:21 <glx> yes minimal width is 640 15:51:29 <taisteluorava> also newGRF:s works very well 15:59:14 *** LA [~Lordy@82.131.18.18.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:05:03 <petern> i played it on my e71 16:05:05 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:05:06 <petern> it's too small :p 16:13:09 <taisteluorava> yeah, e71 have half smaller resolution than 5800 16:13:35 <petern> it's slower as well 16:13:42 <Aali> god I hate writing software for windows 16:14:15 <taisteluorava> and its just way quicker build with touchscreen, no need switch between diffrent angel rails, can use that "all direction" building style easily and accurative 16:14:24 <Aali> still haven't figured out the opengl problem 16:14:52 <Aali> and the only thing I actually know what its doing is my own code 16:15:47 <Aali> the host application for my loadable dll is a black box and the opengl driver is an encrypted black box 16:16:17 <Aali> I've tried moving the whole opengl init sequence to where the problem appears, that just made it worse 16:16:56 <Aali> now its crashing in SetPixelFormat 16:17:17 <Aali> it seems that after a certain point in time, any calls to the opengl driver just crash the entire thing 16:26:56 <pavel1269> why trains stop at each station, the go throught, even there is no such a command ? 16:27:05 <pavel1269> *then 16:27:20 <Aali> use non-stop orders 16:27:51 <pavel1269> well, they don t have that station in orders at all 16:28:07 <Aali> use non-stop orders 16:28:40 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:29 <pavel1269> if i change track layout, that now some trains have to go throught station, i must catch ALL of em and give them orders?? 16:29:56 <Aali> use non-stop orders 16:31:28 <Ammler> lol Aali 16:31:34 <pavel1269> hes stuck? :P 16:31:59 <Aali> did you try using non-stop orders? 16:32:15 <Aali> it should be quite obvious how they work once you see them in action 16:32:21 <Ammler> non-stop orders is the "solution" for almost every usage... 16:32:38 <Ammler> you can set it as default btw. 16:34:02 <pavel1269> i am gonna try, and this should explain, why it in 15832 work :P 16:35:06 <pavel1269> okay ... so stupid problem ... 16:35:51 <Aali> wow thats just perfect 16:36:15 <Aali> single-stepping through glGenTextures with a debugger just magically makes it work 16:36:56 <petern> yeah, here's a suggestion 16:36:59 <petern> use non-stop orders 16:37:24 <glx> Aali: maybe a threading problem 16:37:51 <Aali> glx: I'm pretty sure it is, but I have no control over any threads 16:38:09 *** lolman_ [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:38:20 <Aali> my dll isn't threaded 16:38:47 <Aali> the opengl driver is, and so is the host app, my guess is that the host app is trashing TLS 16:39:04 <Aali> but if thats the case, I have no way of fixing it 16:40:32 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 16:41:18 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 16:42:26 <Belugas> Aali: use non-stop library 16:42:28 <Belugas> her... 16:42:30 <Belugas> sorry 16:44:05 <Aali> heh 16:47:01 <petern> :D 16:52:27 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177238083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:52:29 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177238083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 16:53:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:59:56 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177226153.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.197.245] has joined #openttd 17:07:32 <ameno> wtf is wrong, if a train does not load the cargo of an industry thats clearly in range? 17:08:00 <glx> does the station accepts the cargo? 17:08:06 <Vikthor> is it refitted to carry that cargo? 17:08:07 *** yorick [~Yorick@82-171-205-190.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:08:27 <yorick> oh look, a 500 Internal Server Error on openttd.org 17:08:35 <ameno> glx: wrong way, industry supplies the cargo 17:08:48 <Rubidium> town exclusivity? 17:08:53 <yorick> with a Cherokee web server 0.99.8 (UNIX), Port 80 message 17:09:10 <glx> 2 concurrents with better rating than you ? 17:09:16 <ameno> Vikthor yes.. the same train works a few squares north with the same industry type 17:09:23 <ameno> no other players 17:09:49 <glx> only 2 stations can get the cargo anyway 17:10:09 <ameno> only this one in range 17:10:33 <glx> savegame needed I fear 17:10:41 <KenjiE20> maybe you don't cover enough/the right square to get the cargo 17:11:19 <ameno> KenjiE20 its directly adjacent to the station 17:11:36 <ameno> it should cover all of the industry's fields imho 17:11:49 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Yorick@*.ip.telfort.nl] by petern 17:11:49 *** yorick was kicked from #openttd by petern [500 Internal Yorick Error] 17:12:00 <KenjiE20> have you checked with the catchment on? 17:13:04 <ameno> when i place them yes 17:13:33 <ameno> hm now it works... 17:13:51 <ameno> i did not really change anything... just rescheduled the train again 17:13:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.164.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:01 <ameno> but it was correct before im sure 17:14:18 <glx> what industry type? 17:14:21 <ameno> coal 17:14:24 <ameno> mine 17:14:59 <ameno> ill check if i can reproduce it in one of the autosaves 17:17:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.181] has joined #openttd 17:18:05 <ameno> yes i can... and i know what the problem is.. it was set to "non-stop" 17:18:14 <ameno> and i have that patch enabled... 17:18:43 <ameno> forgot about that... non-stop is then interpreted as waypoint iirc? 17:19:21 *** DASPRiD_ is now known as DASPRiD 17:20:26 <Ammler> [17:32] <Ammler> non-stop orders is the "solution" for almost every usage... <-- ;-) 17:21:08 <ameno> un-solution in this case :) 17:21:34 <Ammler> waypoint "replacement" is via, afaik. 17:21:54 <petern> waypoints are waypoints and have not been replaced 17:22:46 <Ammler> petern: see the """ ;-) 17:23:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.197.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:38 <ameno> http://wiki.openttd.org/Configuring_patches/Stations#TTDPatch_compatible_non-stop_handling 17:23:41 <ameno> that one 17:24:15 <Ammler> that is just to set the default behavior 17:24:27 <ameno> so if i have that patch enabled, a station set go non-stop + load != work 17:24:32 <ameno> mh 17:24:44 <Ammler> which version do you play? 17:24:48 <ameno> 0.6.2 17:24:57 <ameno> ubuntu binary 17:24:58 <Ammler> ah ok, quite old, then you might need that 17:27:58 <Ammler> ameno: non-stop handling is just to tell the train not stopping on other stations on his way 17:28:27 <Ammler> like if you use stations as waypoints 17:28:58 <petern> well that patch setting is stupid 17:29:18 <Ammler> it is described a little bit odd 17:30:51 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:31:00 <Ammler> (in the english.lng) 17:31:29 <petern> it makes people thing "non-stop" means "don't stop" 17:31:39 <petern> or rather "don't stop at" 17:31:51 <ameno> well... it seems it works like that in my version 17:32:12 <ameno> the station was set to (go to) non-stop + load 17:32:27 <ameno> and it did not load, but left immediatly 17:32:33 <petern> yeah, because you enabled that patch option 17:32:37 <Ammler> german text is something like "do orders per default without "between"-stops" 17:33:49 <Ammler> petern: because he didn't? 17:34:26 <Ammler> we always played with that enabled... 17:35:05 <glx> well use 0.7.0+ and problem is solved ;) 17:35:54 <Ammler> (or even more confusing...) ;-) 17:36:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc10f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:24 <glx> depends on translators now :) 17:36:53 <glx> "via" and "go non stop to" are available at the same time 17:37:23 <glx> TTDPatch non-stop handling was one or the other 17:38:07 <Ammler> he, french also changes the font 17:39:15 <glx> because µ for the OSK 17:42:01 <Ammler> isn't "without-stop" english? 17:42:27 <Ammler> maybe better then non-stop 17:42:39 <Aali> it makes no sense but I think I just solved my opengl issues \o/ 17:43:52 <Aali> glGenTextures wasn't crashing at all 17:44:05 <Aali> but something really confused the debugger 17:44:28 <Aali> the actual crash came later on, with a bad call to glTexImage2D 17:45:04 <glx> debugger and multi thread can be fun ;) 17:45:09 <Aali> found it by literally commenting out all of my code line-by-line 17:45:56 <Aali> my code is only ever called from the main thread of the host app 17:46:48 <Aali> I think the opengl drivers did some trickery to lose the debugger intentionally 17:49:19 <Sacro> lolman: new servur 17:51:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.171.18] has joined #openttd 17:58:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:50 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 18:06:06 *** LA [~Lordy@82.131.18.18.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 18:06:47 *** Yeggs-coding is now known as Yeggs-away 18:11:37 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 18:16:05 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:16:25 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 18:17:37 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 18:19:13 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:14 <welshdragon> :o a jonty-comp 18:20:19 <jonty-comp> lies 18:21:51 <Sacro> Hmm, where is Large Font used? 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20:38:27 <Belugas> even on 0.6.3 20:38:30 <gass> 55% stable 20:38:46 <petern> well, of course it depends on the cpu in question 20:39:08 <petern> but there's more to (open)ttd than just the train 20:39:17 <Belugas> it's not just about trains. it could be opponents, industries, even towns. lots can happen 20:39:35 <gass> well ... it is a modest cpu 20:39:35 <gass> model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 420 @ 1.60GHz 20:39:40 <petern> oh well 20:39:47 <petern> think yourself lucky then 20:39:53 <Rubidium> what resolution? 20:40:04 <gass> Belugas, true ... but for now ... its one train ... obviously ... there is more going on 20:40:20 <glx> 32bpp can help too sometimes 20:40:36 <gass> Rubidium, 2048x2048, the map 20:40:40 <Belugas> and animations, let's not forgtet animation :D 20:41:33 <gass> Belugas, like i said... its one train ... in 2048x2048 we can imagine the number of animations after 10 years 20:41:33 <Belugas> gass, resolution does not mean map size, but the screen dimension ;) 20:41:37 <Rubidium> it's very unlikely that you've got 2048x2048 screen resolution (especially because 0.6.3 doesn't support that resolution) 20:41:41 <gass> 1400 x 1200 ? 20:42:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-250-146.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:42:33 <glx> try with a 32bpp blitter 20:42:59 <Belugas> ingame, you know where is the setting button n the toolbar? 20:43:52 <Belugas> if so, click on it, and keep mouse button down. tell us if Full Animation in checked 20:45:11 <petern> press F1 20:45:14 <petern> then it'll be alright 20:48:15 <Belugas> yeah :) 20:52:25 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 20:56:20 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:14 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:58:26 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 20:58:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 21:26:49 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 21:33:35 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F916.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:35:47 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 22:00:27 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:02:49 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:36 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:29 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 22:20:13 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:05 *** lolman [~john@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:25:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA88.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:27 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 22:45:00 *** Frans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:45:47 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:45:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 22:46:13 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051008104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 22:49:55 *** snorre_ [~snorre@cF6FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 22:50:09 *** petern_ [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has joined #openttd 22:50:13 *** GoneWack1 [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:50:17 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:50:17 *** kalasman1en [~kalasmann@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 22:50:20 *** eQualizer|dada [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:50:25 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: snorre, eQualizer, Born_Acorn, Zahl, svip, jonty-comp, MrFrans, @orudge, el_en, murr4y, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:50:25 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 22:50:39 *** glx|away is now known as glx 22:50:51 *** Netsplit over, joins: ameno 22:52:08 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has joined #openttd 22:52:13 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:13 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@80.247.163.107] has joined #openttd 22:52:33 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:52:35 *** svip [~svip@0x53589c76.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:52:35 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 22:52:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 22:56:26 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:42 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 23:00:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15865 /trunk/src/company_gui.cpp: -Codechange: New widgets for company finances windows 23:09:44 *** Doink is now known as Andel 23:10:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051008104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:15:22 <goodger> ooh, a lovely netsplit 23:21:21 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:57 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 23:22:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 23:23:30 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:23:39 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 23:47:44 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:50:11 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:51:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:56:54 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:57:58 <gass> are there any new icon/image sets (instead of the original ones? 23:59:01 <Ammler> 32bpp 23:59:16 <Ammler> which is also used in the OpenGFX