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00:02:34 <Patrick> now I want to build a kinematic sculpture out of my trains 00:07:38 *** NightKha_ [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:08:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176251230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:08:25 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:09:48 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1455:68c0:e384:8b90] has joined #openttd 00:09:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 00:09:48 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1455:68c0:e384:8b90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:20 <[wito]> Patrick: as in "pile-up"? 00:12:27 <[wito]> or rather 00:12:32 <[wito]> almighty mother of all pileups? 00:12:46 <Sacro> Does anyone actually care about GPL violations in the development forum? 00:13:10 <Patrick> nope, massive explosions 00:13:14 <Patrick> death 00:13:38 <[wito]> so a 500-train crash, then? 00:14:12 <Patrick> 40 but yeah 00:14:18 <Patrick> Sacro: that palm guy at it again? 00:14:20 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:14:59 <Sacro> Patrick: no, Bilbo, he's posted binaries and removed the LICENCE 00:15:12 <Patrick> is this a "nice but dim" 00:15:18 <Patrick> or a genuine ripoff? 00:15:19 <Sacro> probably 00:15:28 <[wito]> Patrick: got an URL? 00:15:30 <Sacro> some people clean out all the readmes and such 00:15:33 <Patrick> as in, some guy shooting us his own nightly 00:15:36 <[wito]> (for the giant screenshot 00:15:36 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1455:68c0:e384:8b90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:46 <Patrick> oh, bugger, forgot to check 00:15:57 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1455:68c0:e384:8b90] has joined #openttd 00:15:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 00:15:58 <Patrick> http://patrickthomson.ath.cx/Massive.png 00:16:09 <Patrick> WARNING - huge-ass 00:16:15 <Patrick> tell me when you've got it and I'll take it down 00:17:02 <[wito]> wget says ETA 5 minutes; but give me 15 to be on the safe side 00:18:36 <Forked> Sacro: hmm, crap. I take it the LICENSE and readme.txt etc do not automatically end up in the bin/ folder when you compile? It looks like I've done the same in at least one win32 compile (using mingw). 00:19:41 <Sacro> Forked: nope 00:19:51 * Forked makes a note 00:19:55 <Sacro> so technically you are breaking the law :p 00:20:02 <Forked> yeah I figured, I just wasn't aware 00:22:21 <[wito]> Actually, if memory serves, you are only required to provide the source code and license on demand; if the nature of the license is disclosed 00:22:32 <[wito]> Patrick: file is down 00:23:02 <Sacro> [wito]: the licence isn't disclosed 00:23:21 <[wito]> not even a note in the interface or COPYING? 00:23:29 <Sacro> not sure about the interface 00:23:32 <Sacro> they remove COPYING 00:23:38 *** MapperOG_ [~mirrakor@p57B2C8B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:23:45 <MapperOG_> can I join two stations afterwards? 00:23:58 <Sacro> no 00:24:09 <Patrick> cheers 00:24:18 <[wito]> Patrick: and huge. :P 00:24:31 <Patrick> well, the middle is boring 00:24:39 <Patrick> I would have doctored it if I'd had the tools 00:24:54 <[wito]> heh 00:25:02 <[wito]> I don't think the tools to work with these images exist. :P 00:25:15 <Forked> Sacro: is the file "COPYING" (as well as readme.txt) enough? 00:25:50 <Sacro> Forked: yep, so long as you offer source for 3 years 00:26:02 <Forked> Sacro: urgh 00:26:44 <Forked> I've just been compiling other peoples diff against trunk. Would I get away with offering just the .diff inside that archive? :p 00:27:24 <Sacro> No 00:27:28 <MapperOG_> when I use drag an drop, what will decide the direction the station will face? 00:27:29 <[wito]> I might have to break out the old libpng and write a C application to slice Giant Screenshots. :P 00:27:40 <MapperOG_> the direction I first move in or the direction I end? 00:27:40 <[wito]> MapperOG_: the direction switcher 00:27:45 <Sacro> well... depends 00:27:51 <MapperOG_> damn it, thx you 00:27:57 <Sacro> Forked: you could risk it and hope openttd is still hosting 00:28:09 <Sacro> though if they stop in 1 year and people still ask you for source you could still be liable 00:28:14 <Sacro> i think... 00:28:33 <Forked> law is complicated and at times annoying stuff (no offence intended anywhere..) 00:29:07 <[wito]> In other words; never offer binaries. ;)= 00:29:27 <Forked> yeah.. 00:31:44 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:32:43 <[wito]> Patrick: I just realized something 00:33:08 <[wito]> 34kpx * 69kpx * 4B works out to 8 gigabytes of ram I don't have. :P 00:33:22 <Patrick> :P 00:33:24 <[wito]> I'll have to figure out in the morning how to peruse the screenshot 00:33:38 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 00:33:53 <[wito]> I might end up with a neat little slicer application to make giant screenshots usable, who knows 00:34:31 <[wito]> also, my hat is of to zlib 00:34:51 <[wito]> compressing 8gb of image data to 32 megs, a job well done, I say 00:34:52 <[wito]> anyway 00:34:54 <[wito]> good night 00:35:40 <EoD> good nigt 00:35:49 * EoD is leaving, too 00:36:50 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009040606]] 00:36:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B76B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:43 <MapperOG_> 3 big houses + stadion = more passangers than 8 small ones? 00:41:45 <Aali> HOW ABOUT NO 00:42:09 <Chrill> how about decreasing the amount of huge letters? :) 00:42:47 <jonty-comp> HOW ABOUT NO 00:43:23 <Patrick> I've upgraded it to have 10 tracks in each direction 00:43:27 <Patrick> gonna really pile on the ore 00:44:04 <jonty-comp> I wish I had the patience to get that far in a game:p 00:45:52 <Patrick> well, I used to get bored quickly 00:46:01 <Patrick> but this is interesting emergent behaviour 00:52:26 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-146.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 00:53:09 <Forked> Sacro: by the way.. thank you for making me aware :-) 00:53:33 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-56-4.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 00:55:16 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:58:55 <Sacro> Forked: tis ok 01:15:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.2.65.138] has quit [Quit: Want to be different? 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I won't take part in any PE lessons this year anyway I guess 07:06:21 <LA> I could play chess tho :D 07:06:27 <LA> which is a sport too 07:06:33 <goodger> pah 07:06:35 <LA> or golf 07:06:37 <LA> :P 07:07:01 <LA> I wouldn't have to use the golf club, when I have those walking sticks :D 07:07:10 <LA> have no idea how they are called in English 07:07:26 <goodger> crutches? 07:07:28 <dihedral> i just know a bunch of people who had something like that happen, and their knee was borked happily ever after ^^ 07:07:29 <LA> yeh 07:07:45 <goodger> my knees have mysteriously self-borked 07:07:48 <LA> crutch it is.. 07:08:02 <dihedral> yeah, not crotch ^^ 07:08:18 <Rubidium> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contesting <- that at least sounds physical ;) 07:08:31 <LA> dih, well I actually didn't break any bones.. Just some [insert the English word for "sidemed"] here 07:08:33 <LA> :P 07:08:44 <goodger> actually, crutch means the same as crotch \o/ 07:08:53 <goodger> hmm. sprained? 07:09:21 <goodger> ah, ligaments! 07:09:28 <LA> yeah possible 07:09:29 <Rubidium> Many competitive video games could be considered mind sports. 07:09:29 <LA> :P 07:09:33 <goodger> you tore some ligaments. 07:09:36 <Rubidium> (according to wikipedia) 07:09:38 <goodger> that's... amazingly painful 07:09:59 <goodger> you'll be on the crutches for a good eight months, methinks 07:10:01 <dihedral> what a bunch of nerds Rubidium .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Contesting-multioperator.JPG 07:10:02 <dihedral> :-D 07:10:42 <dihedral> all they do is sit in front of that screen all day long :-P 07:10:51 <LA> goodger: Not exactly.. First they said that two weeks, but it'll be a bit more 07:10:53 <Rubidium> so playing OpenTTD on a goal server might be considered a mind sport 07:10:55 <goodger> estonian "sidemed": literally "links", "ties", "connections", "contacts" 07:11:10 <LA> yeah.. 07:11:17 <goodger> LA: ah, yours was less severe than my mother's, then... 07:11:21 <goodger> hurrah 07:11:36 <goodger> oh, wait, you might be talking about tendons :/ 07:11:39 <LA> yeah, but it still hurts.. Especially if I try to sleep for example 07:11:53 <Rubidium> so... when are the olympics going to cover OpenTTD too? 07:11:55 <LA> well I don't know the English terminology for those things 07:12:17 <LA> Rubidium: When you set some goal to OpenTTD scenarios :D 07:12:20 <goodger> meh, let's say ligaments 07:12:24 <dihedral> Rubidium, ask openttdcoop if they consider it a sport :-P 07:13:03 <dihedral> is petern around? 07:13:26 <LA> Yep, just found out from Internet :D I hurt my right knee's lateral collateral ligament :P 07:13:43 <LA> because it's kind of "lateraalne kollateraalne side" in Estonian :D 07:13:46 <dihedral> gesundheit 07:13:46 <goodger> wonderful 07:15:03 <goodger> hu 07:15:31 <goodger> phonologically, that looks suspiciously like finnish 07:16:48 <dihedral> no wonder... his knee is... fin(n)ish(ed) 07:16:57 <LA> goodger, Estonian and Finnish are VERY closely related :P 07:17:18 <goodger> yes, this became obvious when I remembered where Estonia actually _is_ 07:17:24 <LA> hehe 07:18:04 <goodger> I need to stop confusing Estonia and some country in the Yugoslavia that I hallucinated 07:18:16 <LA> hmm 07:18:18 <LA> lol 07:18:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:18:28 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:24:42 <LA> uhh.. the firefox syndrome - 20 tabs opened :o 07:25:49 <goodger> 20? pah! 07:25:57 <el_en> tere pÀevast 07:26:37 * goodger has 42 07:26:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E11D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:02 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:14 * el_en recommends watching "Watchmen" 07:39:34 <dihedral> "watch men" sounds gay ^^ 07:42:30 <petern> is dihedral around? 07:43:51 <dihedral> aye ^^ 07:44:26 <dihedral> i was wondering if anything was bound to happen with that bus 07:44:48 <dihedral> :-P 07:45:02 * dihedral hides 07:47:44 <petern> not started anything yet 07:47:47 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has joined #openttd 07:48:56 <dihedral> not started != not planed to start :-P 07:49:32 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16076 /trunk/src/terraform_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets to terraform windows. 07:51:52 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:52:01 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:02:54 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D598.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:05:06 <dihedral> trallalla 08:05:54 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07:21 <Rubidium> tralllannoyingllalalaal 08:08:40 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 08:10:26 <dihedral> ^^ 08:16:20 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 08:18:11 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:33:19 <Pikka> !seen brianetta 08:33:22 <Pikka> oh 08:33:26 <Pikka> patchbot 08:33:57 <Alberth> @seen brianetta 08:33:57 <DorpsGek> Alberth: brianetta was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, 38 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Brianetta> here is fine 08:33:57 <Rubidium> there's no patch bot here 08:34:24 <Pikka> this is true 08:34:28 <Pikka> but there is in the other place 08:35:56 <dihedral> what "other place"? 08:36:18 <Rubidium> the "wut" place 08:36:27 <LA> the dark and scary #tycoon channel 08:36:57 <dihedral> oh, yuck ^^ 08:37:21 <Pikka> "the other place" is how members of bicameral parliaments in the UK and Australia refer to the other chamber, innit. 08:37:26 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 08:38:19 <LA> interesting tho, even if rubidiu m hasn't joined #tycoon atm, he knows exactly what's going on there.. 08:38:36 <LA> three wuts there already this morning 08:39:20 <Rubidium> LA: more like 6 (if you count wutz as wut) 08:39:23 <Pikka> there's a lot of it about 08:39:34 <LA> Well, since when I joined, 3 08:39:52 <LA> and without wutz 08:40:09 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D598.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:42:11 <dihedral> is it "violate something in the treatment of the people..." or "violate something by the treatment of the people...." 08:42:17 <dihedral> in or by? 08:43:07 <Rubidium> when in doubt, rewrite the sentence 08:43:30 <dihedral> "These are the articles of the Human Rights Convention that are violated by the treatment of detainees in the detention camp in Guantà namo." 08:43:31 <Rubidium> "the treatment of the people violated something" 08:43:33 <dihedral> trying to 08:43:33 <petern> hmm 08:43:38 <petern> in UpdateStationAcceptance() 08:43:56 <petern> there is code to determine the acceptance area 08:44:19 <petern> it then checks that it is exactly the same as the cached acceptance area 08:44:35 <petern> can this not be removed to just use the cached acceptance area? 08:46:42 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D598.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:46:55 <Rubidium> guess you can (though top/bottom are reversed) 08:52:30 <petern> yeah, seems to be for some reason :/ 08:57:10 *** const86 [~const@213.178.47.170] has joined #openttd 09:00:12 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 09:06:38 *** jacky59 [~marc@jacky62.maxiscreen.com] has joined #openttd 09:07:11 <jacky59> hello, I recently installed openttd 7.0 and tried to download and install noai from the online contents menu 09:07:33 <jacky59> when I try to load a saved game with AI, openttd freeze 09:07:50 <jacky59> tried on both windows / linux: same :/ ??? I guess it's a known issue ? 09:08:47 <Rubidium> you've got a big map and you probably downloaded 'the wrong one' 09:09:03 <Rubidium> i.e. the one that doesn't play nice 09:09:20 <jacky59> hummm 09:09:24 <jacky59> big map yeah 09:09:58 <jacky59> what would be the limit on map size for AI to be capable to "restart" after a save ? 09:09:59 <Rubidium> and with "not nice" I mean it's doing all it's calculations when "starting" the AI instead while it's "running" 09:10:25 <jacky59> so basically, I need to wait ? it is not crashed ? 09:10:48 <Rubidium> yes, though that waiting can take *very* long 09:11:11 <jacky59> I used AI: NoCAB 09:11:17 <Rubidium> and the major problem is that "we" cannot do much about it except flaming the AI writers to not do that 09:11:29 <jacky59> to test because that was the only AI with some "save function " if I am not wrong 09:11:32 <Rubidium> yup, nocab is known to be not nice 09:12:10 <jacky59> what do you think about having a kind of popup saying "looks like your map is really huge, and you want to play with AIs... that might not be a great idea" 09:12:24 <jacky59> when you start a new game.. 09:13:24 <Gekz> lol 09:13:56 <jacky59> the strange thing is that when I start the new game, everything is smooth... and when I load it, freeeeze... so when did the AI did its calculation from the start to the saved point ?? 09:15:25 <Rubidium> the AI is trying to reconstruct something which seems to be failing horribly 09:15:38 <Alberth> jacky59: AI's should play 'nice', and not do a lengthy calculation when started. Unfortunately, not all AI authors follow that guide-line. 09:15:58 <jacky59> which AI is "nice" ? is it documented somewhere ? 09:16:45 <Rubidium> not really 09:17:28 <Alberth> jacky59: you might want to read the forum topic of an AI to see whether people have reported this problem, but otherwise, no. 09:17:34 <jacky59> that's it, I waited now it loaded the game... 09:18:06 <jacky59> forum : that's a nice idea however.. where is the ai forum :p if you click on the forum link on the openttd.org page, you don't see an AI forum :/ 09:18:29 <Alberth> tt-forums.net 09:18:41 <Rubidium> it's a subforum of the "general openttd" forum 09:19:02 <jacky59> ahh I didn't saw it first 09:19:06 <jacky59> well... thx for help ! 09:19:21 <jacky59> what AI would you recommend ? 09:19:26 <Rubidium> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=779423#p779423 <- might be worth a look 09:19:55 <Alberth> jacky59: I never play with AIs, so no idea 09:21:01 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEff7c.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:22:24 <jacky59> only multiplayers ? 09:22:34 <jacky59> or alone ? 09:23:15 <dihedral> admiral 09:23:30 <Rubidium> Alberth plays hard CORE OpenTTD ;) 09:24:08 <dihedral> i only play single core ^^ 09:24:16 <Noldo> :D 09:24:58 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176251230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:25:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:29:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-236-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:29:17 <Wolf01> hello 09:37:34 <jonty-comp> dihedral: multithread the AIs! 09:37:42 <jonty-comp> then you can play one AI on each core :P 09:37:47 <dihedral> lol 09:37:57 <dihedral> i cannot play one ai on each core 09:38:06 <dihedral> i can play against an ai on each core though :-D 09:38:32 <jonty-comp> it'd be good if you could connect clients to a multiplayer game as AIs 09:38:42 <jonty-comp> then you could run an instance of openttd on each core :D 09:38:47 <dihedral> just need to patch your client 09:38:55 <dihedral> Aali had done that 09:38:58 <jonty-comp> :O 09:39:14 <dihedral> he then marked two spots on the map and let the ai's pathfinder connect them with tracks :-D 09:39:23 <jonty-comp> heh 09:39:31 <dihedral> lazy skunks :-P 09:39:38 <Alberth> can you not run AIs at the server? 09:39:43 <dihedral> ... 09:39:47 * jonty-comp is waiting for a report to generate 09:40:04 <dihedral> i am now on page 7.... of 15 09:40:05 <Alberth> and connect yourself as client 09:40:16 <jonty-comp> Alberth: yes, but if you have the AI at a client then it can run on a single core 09:40:27 <jonty-comp> then you can have 4 AIs running on 4 different cores! 09:40:35 <dihedral> + you then use your own 'ai' to assist you 09:40:50 * jonty-comp builds looping tracks and bridges everywhere 09:40:59 <dihedral> i.e. - i want to upgrade all my tracks + trains to maglev :-P 09:41:39 <Alberth> nice 09:42:06 <dihedral> hehe - would be a way to do copy & paste :-D 09:42:21 <dihedral> watch what i am building, and build it somewhere else :-D 09:43:28 <Alberth> copy & paste also allowed moving afaik (ie copy & delete, followed by pasting one tile shifted) 09:43:49 *** Dr_Jekyll [R4R@p57B0B767.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:45:21 <Alberth> it would be interesting if it can move the mouse-cursor around, and interact with the windows. Then you can make an interactive tutorial. 09:45:49 <LA> heh.. 09:46:03 <LA> but how were the tutorials at original ttd done 09:46:11 <LA> I don't even remember those :D 09:47:25 <Alberth> I think more or less the same. At RCT, I remember I could start a tutorial and take over any time. Also, I could move the mouse-cursor by moving the mouse while the tutorial played. 09:47:55 * LA thinks he still has rrt II on cd 09:48:11 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0BE2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:49:18 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 09:53:18 <petern> in, not at 09:55:07 <petern> what does !!! mean in admiralai speak? 09:56:24 <dihedral> ask Yexo ^^ 10:02:48 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 10:11:15 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db086a7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 10:13:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd316.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 10:14:29 <Patrick> heh 10:14:44 <Patrick> I remember doing a ttd tutorial once and a random event toastered at the bottom of the screen 10:14:50 <Patrick> distracted the mouse, threw it off-kilter 10:14:57 <Patrick> and the rest of the tutorial was broken 10:25:07 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:29:47 <frosch123> petern: http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/cleanup14456.diff 10:29:54 <frosch123> never got around to commit it :p 10:30:21 <petern> hehe 10:30:23 <petern> go for it :D 10:30:52 <frosch123> last time the assertion was triggered was the broken title game of 1.4 10:36:17 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36:25 <frosch123> oh noes, I missed a "0." :/ 10:36:56 <dihedral> :-P 10:38:12 *** welterde [welterde@cl-2543.ham-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:17 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 10:57:10 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 10:57:55 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db086a7.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: saufen \o/] 11:02:35 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 11:08:22 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r16077 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup (r14456): Remove some code that is only used for some assertions, that haven't been triggered for a while. 11:13:36 <Yexo> petern: it tried to build a drivethrough roadstop there, but it failed 11:14:17 <petern> so? 11:14:25 <petern> why should i care? :) 11:14:45 <Yexo> you shouldn't care :) 11:15:11 <Yexo> it was a bug that that sign was build 11:15:31 <Yexo> it should only be build with the proper setting turned on, but I forgot to check that setting in a few places 11:19:19 <petern> oh 11:19:24 <petern> not fixed? 11:19:31 <petern> (how can i tell what version is running) 11:19:46 <Yexo> open the AI debug panel 11:19:51 <petern> dedicated server 11:19:53 <Yexo> and it's fixed, but not in any public version 11:20:08 <Yexo> hmm, dunno if you can tell when running a dedicated server 11:23:06 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 11:25:03 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:16 *** LA [~chatzilla@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:31 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEff7c.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:47:04 <petern> aww, it died :( 11:47:48 <petern> Your script made an error: parameter 2 has an invalid type 'null' ; expected: 'integer' 11:48:02 <petern> *FUNCTION [DeleteDeadEnd()] /home/openttd/.openttd/content_download/ai/AdmiralAI.20.tar/admiralai.20/road/routebuilder.nut line [212] 11:48:15 <petern> (i guess i'm using v20 ;)) 11:49:31 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has joined #openttd 11:51:02 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-180-45.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:51:05 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 11:56:21 <petern> is it possible to restart it, keeping the same company? 11:58:45 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 12:18:50 <petern> hmm 12:19:00 <petern> the old landscape generator doesn't leave a 1 tile gap of water around the edge :s 12:19:12 <petern> on the top edges anyway 12:24:08 <Rubidium> then disable the freeform edges ;) 12:26:57 <petern> ah 12:28:13 <Pikka> wut 12:28:24 <Pikka> ai in mulpitlayer? 12:40:23 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEff7c.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 12:45:27 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46:48 *** EirikhO [~eirikho@ti0009a380-0590.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:59:14 <Patrick> when was the cap on station waiting cargo removed? 12:59:22 <Patrick> I have 26k waiting :( 12:59:48 <frosch123> before 0.6 ? 13:00:44 <Patrick> neat 13:01:13 <frosch123> though I doubt it was removed, just raised :p 13:05:23 <Patrick> wow, I got my rating down to 0 13:05:54 <Rubidium> IIRC it's something like 32768, but after 4096 cargo runs away faster than normal 13:07:41 <[wito]> ach 13:07:59 <[wito]> I've connected half the map, it's 1971 and I have 100 trains. :P 13:07:59 <Patrick> I have 300 trains waiting for me to redesign this station 13:08:21 <Patrick> and I industried myself into a corner, ore mines are blocking where I want trains to go 13:08:25 <Patrick> magic bulldozer time 13:17:35 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:53 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228028144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:22:04 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16078 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: -Change: do not show stop location for via orders; they don't stop there 13:25:03 <[wito]> hmm 13:25:11 <[wito]> 150 trains, stuff getting sluggy all up in here. :P 13:25:21 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176251230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:21 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:32:59 *** LA [~chatzilla@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 13:36:52 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:43:18 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16079 /trunk/src/ (train_cmd.cpp vehicle.cpp): 13:43:18 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#2824]: insanely fast trains would not stop in time for stations 13:43:18 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Fix: insanely fast trains would sometimes 'jump' over waypoints/via stations within a tick, which would cause the order not to be processed causing the train to go in loops until (with luck) it 'hit' the tile 13:49:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E11D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:51:18 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-146.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:51:58 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 13:59:32 *** free_kill [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:00:05 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejk129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:03:37 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:41 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16080 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Introducing a constant for order-list line height. 14:33:01 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:36:39 <free_kill> Finaly! 14:36:49 <free_kill> FS2824 i mean 14:36:55 *** free_kill is now known as pavel1269 14:42:41 *** Timitry_ [~Tim@p5B37C630.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejk129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 14:52:00 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has joined #openttd 14:53:20 *** free_kill [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:53:57 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d8eb:710c:d08d:5369] has joined #openttd 14:54:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:55:51 *** Timitry_ [~Tim@p5B37C630.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:42 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:14 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16081 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: -Doc: Adding/fixing some Doxygen comments. 15:07:22 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: AdiaÅ.] 15:14:47 <EirikhO> How do I hide bought land marks in OTTD 0.7.0 15:17:00 <Aali> you get a newgrf to replace the graphics 15:17:43 <jonty-comp> hmm, I thought that was in the transparency options 15:18:35 <petern> hello tharr 15:22:15 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:24:45 *** LA [~chatzilla@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:52 *** free_kill [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:52 <petern> hmm 15:28:59 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEff7c.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:29:01 <petern> that's a nasty error when trying to join an AI company 15:29:14 <petern> is it possible to bump the player to spectator instead? 15:31:46 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-155-59.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:01 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16082 /trunk/src/settings_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Completed the widget numbers of the advanced settings window. 15:34:03 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:28 <Yexo> petern: when NoAI was still a seperate branch, it was impossible to join an AI company (the button was greyed out) 15:44:35 <Yexo> somewhere after merging that went wrong 15:45:12 <glx> IIRC it's impossible through the GUI 15:45:35 <Yexo> glx: that's the problem, it isn't anymore 15:46:00 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:52:13 <Patrick> my new goal is to have a 1,000 train station 15:52:17 <Patrick> 10 tracks, 60 platforms 15:52:19 <Patrick> should be doable 15:54:49 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-155-59.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 15:55:55 <Yexo> that depends on the trainlength and the length the trains have to travel 16:19:03 <Patrick> man, you're right, my 500 train, 30 platform, 4 track station prototype left me completely unprepared for the challenge 16:19:23 <[wito]> 1000 train / ? 16:19:29 <[wito]> trains per what now? 16:19:36 <Patrick> in total 16:19:44 <Patrick> going both ways on a 2048 map 16:19:58 <Patrick> it could probably hold more than that 16:21:46 <[wito]> ah 16:22:24 <Patrick> the limiting factor is building enough primary industries inside the maximum station spread + catchment area 16:22:32 <Patrick> so I'll have to cheat them up a bit 16:23:12 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:15 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:23:23 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 16:24:33 <[wito]> 512*512; pax/mail only, 1k trains, possible? ;)= 16:25:16 <Patrick> probably 16:25:23 <frosch123> I can easily have 1k trains in a 1x1 depot 16:25:38 <Patrick> not easily, think of the clicks 16:25:46 <Patrick> [wito]: actually, half the map would be train 16:26:04 <Patrick> my mainline is 20 wide and 2000 long and it's mostly full 16:26:30 <[wito]> true 16:26:46 <[wito]> but small, fast MUs 16:26:55 <[wito]> think 4-length trains and stations 16:27:14 <[wito]> they could all fit back-to-back on a 4*2000 mainline 16:27:23 <[wito]> 4 wagons, that is 16:27:27 <[wito]> so 2 squares 16:27:29 <Patrick> I'm using 4-tile trains 16:27:33 <Patrick> hah, 2 tile trains 16:27:38 <Patrick> tiny 16:28:06 <Patrick> ah, problem 16:28:08 <fjb> I love gcc. What is the meaning of: two or more data types in declaration specifiers 16:28:12 <Patrick> the absolute max station spread is 64 16:28:22 <Patrick> and that limits me to 60-ish tracks or 10 by 10 16:28:32 <[wito]> no 16:28:43 <[wito]> it limits you to 64 tracks, 64 tiles long 16:28:50 <Aali> I know a certain savegame with 2500 trains on 512x512 16:29:10 <Patrick> my entry/exit multiplexers are that long 16:29:29 <[wito]> you might need more than one station 16:29:36 <Patrick> pshaw 16:29:45 <[wito]> try a coal station and a iron station shipping to a steel mill with PBIO 16:29:46 <[wito]> PBI 16:29:58 <Patrick> well, that's what I just had 16:30:06 <Patrick> ore->steel->goods->town 16:30:17 <[wito]> yeah, but use PBI 16:30:21 <Patrick> splitting the 10-track mainline into OOOOSSSGGG 16:30:26 <[wito]> Pikka's Basic Industries. ;) 16:30:28 <Patrick> I don't want to play with multiples any more 16:30:39 <Patrick> this is all about taking stations and load balancers to the limit 16:30:40 <[wito]> Or E.C.S. ;) 16:30:45 <Patrick> tried them 16:30:49 <Patrick> for another time 16:31:12 <Patrick> now I plan to just have CCCCCCCCCC on each side 16:42:42 *** Dr_Jekyll [R4R@p57B0B767.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 16:42:43 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has joined #openttd 16:56:18 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:56:32 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:56:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 17:03:43 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.85.218.205] has joined #openttd 17:07:00 <Patrick> hmm 17:07:12 <Patrick> I could have one "row" of stations in front of another 17:07:27 <Patrick> with one gap every 5 or 6 platforms to let the other ones through 17:07:38 <[wito]> yeo 17:07:40 <[wito]> yep 17:07:55 <Patrick> or a gap of 2 and have 3 sets of 6 17:08:05 <Patrick> each feeding off a mainline 17:08:22 <Patrick> crap, I've obsoleted my design before I started 17:09:48 <[wito]> you could also have a 121 121 mainline 17:10:14 <[wito]> with four platforms after one another; each feeding from the outer tracks onto the inner 17:11:01 <Patrick> then I'd need a separate load balancer 17:11:07 <Patrick> I was doing it at the exits 17:11:29 <Patrick> (for either design) 17:12:02 <[wito]> well, that'd be a 1221 1221 line, of course 17:12:07 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16083 /extra/ottd_grf/split/openttdgui.nfo: [OTTD_GRF] -Change: remove unneeded offset from shared orders sprite 17:12:16 <[wito]> or a 12 12 12 12 line 17:12:31 <[wito]> really doesn't matter, but I'm thinking 1221 1221 could look really cool. :P 17:14:37 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16084 /trunk/bin/data/ (5 files): -Change: remove (soon to be) unneeded offset from the shared order sprite. 17:17:00 <[wito]> hehe 17:21:26 <Patrick> bloody hell 17:21:44 <Patrick> I've got 90 platforms into this space 17:22:05 <Patrick> even with both sides of the station coated in steroid-pumped 2048 industrries it wouldn't be enough 17:22:13 <Patrick> and that's with a spread limit of 44 17:22:44 <[wito]> I don't think a single engine can pull that train, if you pardon the pun 17:23:55 <Patrick> each platform is only 4 trains long 17:24:28 <Patrick> 6 platforms and 2 passthroughs 17:24:32 <Patrick> 5 of them 17:24:35 <Patrick> and 3 rows of that 17:24:38 <Patrick> this is going to be epic 17:25:05 <Patrick> assuming that 6 platforms can cope with a constant stream, I know they can for the unload 17:25:19 <Patrick> oh crap, I'll have to build another one at the other end 17:25:30 <Patrick> roll on copy/paste - is there a patch for that? 17:26:06 <Yexo> yes, just look in the forums 17:26:22 <Patrick> mwaha 17:26:26 <Patrick> save-compatible? 17:26:31 <Patrick> ah sod it, gotta go 17:26:38 <Yexo> yes 17:26:47 <Yexo> but not mp safe 17:28:14 <Patrick> meh 17:36:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E11D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:07 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 17:47:08 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47:46 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r16085 /trunk/src/lang/ (danish.txt estonian.txt simplified_chinese.txt turkish.txt): 17:47:46 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-04-18 17:47:27 17:47:46 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: danish - 6 changed by ThomasA (6) 17:47:46 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: estonian - 31 fixed, 26 changed by kristjans (57) 17:47:47 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 1 fixed, 25 changed by ww9980 (26) 17:47:47 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: turkish - 10 fixed by Emin (10) 17:48:11 <EirikhO> How do I help translate? 17:48:17 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 17:50:03 <Yexo> send a mail to translator@openttd.org, mention the language you want to help translating 17:50:19 <EirikhO> Okay thanks 17:50:31 <Yexo> then wait until and account is made, and start translating at translator2.openttd.org 17:51:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:52:37 <Alberth> In the mean time you can update the wiki :p 18:00:46 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 18:10:05 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet614.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 18:13:53 <el_en> http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/stupid_ie_hacks.jpg 18:15:21 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet614.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:34 *** EirikhO [~eirikho@ti0009a380-0590.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: well...bye!] 18:15:39 <petern> :D 18:17:08 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:23:44 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has joined #openttd 18:25:53 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:53 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 18:28:31 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:36:53 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has joined #openttd 18:45:23 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:50:00 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has joined #openttd 18:57:25 *** MapperOG [~mirrakor@p57B2C8B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:57:53 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:59:39 <MapperOG> is there a "strategy guide" somewhere, that talks about aspects like "a train shouldn't always stop on all stations but try to get long distances to gain profit.. 19:03:51 <fjb> What is hs.dat? 19:04:01 <Yexo> the highscores are stored in there 19:04:18 <fjb> Ah, thank you. 19:07:00 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:36:20 *** const86 [~const@213.178.47.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:21 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:53:20 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has joined #openttd 19:53:39 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has quit [] 19:54:09 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has joined #openttd 20:03:59 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest983 20:04:00 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has joined #openttd 20:05:53 *** Guest983 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:59 *** draconnier [~svencanni@87.240.242.118] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:18:32 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm208.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:22:27 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.85.218.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:43 *** welterde [welterde@cl-2543.ham-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6] 20:28:45 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 20:45:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:17 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: AdiaÅ.] 20:56:30 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:56:48 <Nite_Owl> Hello everyone 20:59:33 <frosch123> night everyone 20:59:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd316.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:21 <MapperOG> hi 21:03:49 <Nite_Owl> Hello MapperOG 21:07:38 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:09:09 <fjb> Where is Eddi when you need him? 21:10:33 <Rubidium> try WOL 21:10:48 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16086 /trunk/src/ (tile_type.h tilehighlight_type.h viewport.cpp): -Codechange: magic numbers substitutes by enums and some type safety 21:13:19 <fjb> WOL? 21:14:15 <Rubidium> wake-on-lan 21:15:03 <Nite_Owl> http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/1d74fa31 21:15:59 <fjb> Hm, would be wake on wan in this case, I guess. And is Eddi himself connected to the net? 21:18:58 <el_en> Eddi has been offline so long that he must be planning something. 21:19:06 <el_en> something evil. such as graduating. 21:20:00 <fjb> That would be really evil... 21:20:49 <el_en> that's the excuse Darkvater and Bjarni have used for huge offline times. 21:21:27 <Nite_Owl> not as evil as alligator rape 21:28:31 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 21:33:55 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 21:50:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D598.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:56:55 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 22:01:21 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228028144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 22:13:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E11D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:13 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 22:25:28 *** NPT|Twister [~cucu99@ip-174-248-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has joined #openttd 22:26:36 *** NPT|Twister is now known as [2Cu] 22:30:40 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 22:37:33 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:39:25 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:29 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:28 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 22:51:50 <Nite_Owl> Time to feed - later all 22:51:56 <Rubidium> happy mouse hunting 22:52:11 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:55:53 *** CrazyTransport [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:47 <Wolf01> 'night 23:02:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-236-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:03:22 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:16:28 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 23:32:06 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 23:33:00 <Patrick> ok, it's going to cost me 100 million to populate my new network with trains 23:33:06 <Patrick> I think I got it a bit wrong somewhere 23:33:17 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [] 23:39:30 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has joined #openttd 23:39:30 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest999 23:39:30 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 23:42:08 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 23:42:17 *** Guest999 [~KenjiE20@92.21.241.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:32 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 23:54:03 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F3DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:57:47 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BCA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]