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00:00:52 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9271.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 00:04:54 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEefe0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:07:13 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:56 <z-MaTRiX> heheh found AI route fail already 00:08:40 <z-MaTRiX> (at lakeside) 00:21:25 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-113-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 00:27:28 <SineDeviance> i still cant get this dedicated server to advertise 00:27:41 * SineDeviance bangs head against wall until blood spews out 00:29:30 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet658.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:51 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host217-42-99-152.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:31:34 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.128.214] has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 00:35:28 <Belugas> [20:30] * SineDeviance bangs head against wall until blood spews out <--- that can take long... I've never seen a wall bleeding :S 00:37:47 <glx> lol 00:43:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:06 <Eddi|zuHause> we have a saying in germany: "Der Kl?gere gibt nach" (about: "the smarter one gives in") :p 00:46:27 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16447 /trunk/src/settings.cpp: -Fix [FS#2922] (r16444): compiling on x86-64 failed 00:49:38 <fonsinchen> Can we use ONSF_NO_STOP_AT_INTERMEDIATE_STATIONS as default nonstop type for aircraft and ships? It describes better what they actually do and it would be nice for cargodist. 00:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause> there are non-non-stop orders for aircraft? 00:50:33 <SmatZ> intermediate stations? 00:50:37 <SmatZ> for aircraft? 00:50:45 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485D8BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:51:28 <fonsinchen> the nonstop flag is meaningless for aircraft and ships. It's just getting in the way. 00:51:57 <fonsinchen> At the moment it's set to ONSF_STOP_EVERYWHERE. 00:52:12 <fonsinchen> But only because that's incidentally 0. 00:52:45 <fonsinchen> I propose changing the order so that ONSF_NO_STOP_AT_INTERMEDIATE_STATIONS becomes 0 and modifying some checks accordingly. 00:53:02 <SmatZ> why? 00:53:46 <SmatZ> it would mean savegame bump 00:53:48 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:50 <SmatZ> for no apparent reason 00:53:54 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like he wants to reduce the amount of special cases 00:53:54 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 00:54:04 <SmatZ> simpler code? 00:54:16 <glx> how can this flag be a problem for cargodist? 00:54:33 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D95A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:54:59 <Yexo> SmatZ: a savegame bump isn't necesary 00:55:24 <glx> Yexo: it is if flags order is changed 00:55:39 <fonsinchen> cargodist decides if an order is nondeterministic by looking at the nonstop flag 00:55:52 <fonsinchen> if an order isn't nonstop it's nondeterministic. 00:55:53 <Eddi|zuHause> cargodist, like cargodest, has general problems with non-non-stop orders, because it can stop at stations unknown to the link graph 00:56:07 <Yexo> why? All aircraft/ship orders can be fixed in AfterLoadGame (non-stop shouldn't be changeable for thsoe vehicle types anyway, so they should all be 0 now) 00:56:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 00:56:26 <glx> aircraft and ships never stop on stations not in there schedule 00:56:44 <Yexo> exactly 00:56:48 <fonsinchen> Cargodist doesn't have problems with those orders. It just lets the vehicle load any cargo when it has a nondeterministic order. 00:56:50 <SmatZ> Yexo: true, but fonsinchen suggested changing values of flags :) 00:57:05 <Yexo> oh, that 00:57:08 <fonsinchen> glx: that's my point. We can as well express that in the nonstop flag. 00:57:10 <Yexo> that isn't a good idea indeed 00:57:36 <SmatZ> but you are of course thinking the right way ;) 00:59:01 <fonsinchen> We could also change the constructor of Order to set the nonstop to flag to ONSF_NO_STOP_AT_INTERMEDIATE_STATIONS. 00:59:52 <glx> fonsinchen: write a patch and submit it :) 01:00:01 <Eddi|zuHause> or you could simply change your check to "has non-stop flag or is aircraft/ship" 01:00:01 <fonsinchen> ok 01:00:26 <fonsinchen> Eddi: I could also do that, but I consider it a hack. 01:00:30 * SmatZ agrees with Eddi|zuHause 01:00:56 <SmatZ> fonsinchen: setting a flag that isn't used for that vehicle type isn't a hack? 01:01:20 <Eddi|zuHause> luckily i'm not in the position to decide that :p 01:01:22 <fonsinchen> Basically the flag is implicitly set to something stupid now. 01:01:35 <fonsinchen> I'd like to set it to something meaningfull. 01:01:39 <Yexo> no, the flag is unused 01:01:42 <Yexo> which is different 01:02:12 <glx> this change should be part of cargodist :) 01:02:20 <glx> if cargodist use it 01:02:30 <fonsinchen> the whole "type" field is explicitly set to 0 and the flag is checked in several places to be ONSF_STOP_EVERYWHERE for airplanes and ships. 01:03:20 <fonsinchen> like order_cmd.cpp:497, 563 ... 01:03:35 <glx> but as you need it, you can just write a patch and maybe we will accept it, else it will be a part of cargodist patch 01:03:50 *** SineDeviance2 [~jman@cpe-075-176-106-090.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:03:53 <glx> the result will be the same for you 01:03:54 <Yexo> fonsinchen: if you refer to line numbers, please refer to trunk lines 01:04:15 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:04:34 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 01:05:02 <fonsinchen> oh, sorry. 443 and 509 then 01:11:03 *** SineDeviance [~jman@cpe-075-176-106-090.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:11:12 *** [com]buster 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05:50:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 06:18:52 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm80.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:19:57 <dihedral> haha 06:20:12 <dihedral> Sing a pore kid -> Sing a poor kid :-D 06:21:18 <petern> that's so 5 years ago 06:21:41 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=791627#p791627 <- lol 06:21:47 <dihedral> yes petern probably is :-P 06:24:42 <Singaporekid> oh you 06:24:42 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 06:28:41 <Xaroth> dihedral: he's just being a git tbh 06:31:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:41:52 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 06:47:36 *** phidah 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http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=791635#p791635 <-- nice reply, dihedral :) 07:24:03 <dihedral> hehe :-) 07:25:06 <Forked> Comperende :\ 07:26:03 <Forked> too early for the whoring of the forums.. coffeeee 07:28:14 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:31:03 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:39:23 *** reldred [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:52:01 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:56:27 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:56:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56:30 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 08:07:58 *** Xyzzy [~Albert@vc-41-192-84-169.umts.vodacom.co.za] has joined #openttd 08:14:38 *** snorre [~snorre@cF6FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:15:37 <Pizen> when making a patch, should I make it for the current revision, the latest nightly, the testing or the stable release? 08:18:17 <planetmaker> always head 08:18:34 <planetmaker> e.g. latest available version on the repository. 08:19:02 <Pizen> so 16447 for now? 08:21:21 *** Xyzzy [~Albert@vc-41-192-84-169.umts.vodacom.co.za] has left #openttd [] 08:28:18 <Pizen> I'll take that as a yes 08:29:06 <dihedral> Pizen, svn up, THAT revision! 08:29:13 <dihedral> and of trunk 08:29:46 <Pizen> current HEAD is presumably 16447 08:29:49 <Pizen> trunk of course 08:29:54 *** reldred [~richard@115.131.198.120] has joined #openttd 08:29:59 <Pizen> (that's what SVN tells me anyway) 08:30:08 <dihedral> then you have your answer 08:30:12 <Pizen> good then =) 08:30:20 <Pizen> just making sure I do not write stuff in vain 08:30:29 <dihedral> you already did 08:30:46 <Pizen> ... 08:30:50 <dihedral> and again! 08:30:51 <Pizen> I meant ... bleh =p 08:30:52 <dihedral> :-D 08:34:25 <Pizen> quick question 08:34:35 <Pizen> when were the strings changed? 08:34:39 <Pizen> (what rev?) 08:35:08 <dihedral> which strings? 08:35:10 <dihedral> langauge? 08:35:14 <Pizen> no, uh 08:35:21 <Pizen> just the removal of the explicit ID 08:35:44 <dihedral> i have no idea what you want :-P 08:35:59 <Pizen> well it isn't vital anyway, I just ... 08:36:28 <Pizen> well, I wanted to update the "buy land area" patch, but it used the old STR_5808_CAN_T_PURCHASE_THIS_LAND format 08:36:41 <Pizen> and as far as I can tell, that'd be STR_CAN_T_PURCHASE_THIS_LAND now 08:38:04 * Pizen compiles 08:38:18 <dihedral> you can search english.txt for that ;-) 08:38:22 <dihedral> if you find it, congrats 08:38:47 <Pizen> I didn't need to change the string, just find the correct enum to put in the source code 08:38:52 <Pizen> and I did, in strings.h 08:38:58 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:40:29 <dihedral> well done! 08:40:55 <Pizen> well I missed the _ERROR part of the prefix, so I'll have to compile again - but thanks! 08:41:16 <dihedral> like i said - search in english.txt to get the id 08:41:26 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:41:48 <Pizen> I don't need the ID 08:41:51 <Pizen> oh, OH 08:41:56 <Pizen> for when I develop stuff myself 08:42:03 <Pizen> I'll keep that in mind 08:42:14 <Pizen> thanks ^^ 08:44:30 <Pizen> oh joy it works 08:49:41 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 08:50:19 <Pizen> now, to update the cargodist patch 08:51:41 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm80.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:53:51 <Pizen> what is the current view on patch "packs"? 08:54:02 <dihedral> they dont live long 08:54:06 <Pizen> that figures 08:54:14 <dihedral> you get a bunch of 'users' 08:54:25 <dihedral> and if you approach it like alain - they are very annoying 08:55:03 <Pizen> I'm packing them up for my own sake, just figured some other people might be interested - I realise the odds of my taste in patches probably doesn't match with that of many other people, though 08:55:30 <dihedral> if you are prepared to get a bunch of 'uh add this' and 'i want that' 08:55:36 <Pizen> I'm not 08:55:37 <dihedral> and keep your work up to date 08:55:38 <Pizen> =P 08:55:42 <dihedral> and post win32 bins 08:55:47 <dihedral> and fix bugs 08:55:55 <Pizen> well 08:56:07 <dihedral> and find out in which patch the bug was caused 08:56:15 <Pizen> as said, I'm not 08:56:16 <dihedral> and and and 08:56:20 <dihedral> aye 08:56:27 <Pizen> so I'll just leave it be and use it for friends and myself 08:56:34 <dihedral> :-) 08:57:28 <Pizen> in what way did alain approach it, though? 08:58:06 <dihedral> read the kgat thread 08:58:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:58:29 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:59:19 <Pizen> I see 09:03:18 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228071230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:08:02 <Pizen> do you mind all these questions? 09:11:48 <dihedral> if someone wants to make a patchpack he should not expect that amount of support in applying his first patch and being told how to compile 09:12:05 <dihedral> that person most likely has no clue of the code, or how to code 09:12:15 <dihedral> and therefore is just not the right person to make a patch pack 09:12:49 <dihedral> you can simply read that thread and understand 09:13:49 <dihedral> it's harsh - yes, but nobody here wants to constantly have to babysit such a person 09:14:06 <dihedral> then we might as well just do the work ourselves 09:15:01 <planetmaker> Pizen, if you are interested in some client-side only patches, I can recommend you to have a look at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ottdbash/repository/browse/autostart/patches (It's a shameless plug, yes :P ) 09:15:28 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=43723 <- lol 09:16:01 <Pizen> dihedral, well no, I agree 09:16:01 <dihedral> hehe planetmaker 09:16:04 <dihedral> :-P 09:16:16 <Pizen> planetmaker, I'll have a look at that 09:16:51 <dihedral> i loved it when alain mentioned he had tortoisesvn installed but did not find the 'compile' button :-D 09:16:58 <planetmaker> hehe. If you're interested in starting with a client-side only patch pack, you might start there :) 09:16:59 <Pizen> ... XD 09:17:00 <Noldo> I never really understood what the point of patchpacks is 09:17:01 <Pizen> also aww 09:17:06 <Pizen> that's kinda cute actually 09:17:16 <dihedral> hehe 09:17:17 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@2001:1af8:fe2e:115::2] has joined #openttd 09:17:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 09:17:19 <dihedral> uh 09:17:22 <dihedral> hello Rubidium 09:17:22 <planetmaker> uh :) 09:17:26 <planetmaker> Hello Rubidium :) 09:17:31 <Pizen> I also read earlier someone asking about "where to put the patch file to make it work ingame" 09:17:34 <Rubidium> 'lo 09:17:38 <dihedral> how is you sir? 09:17:55 <Pizen> planetmaker, I'm not really that interested in patch packs 09:18:23 * Rubidium wonders how long it takes till he gets sent away again 09:18:43 <planetmaker> Pizen, sorry, didn't read whole backlog. I thought you considered to do one yourself - though only for you and a few friends :) 09:18:51 <planetmaker> hehe @ Rubidium :) 09:19:00 <dihedral> Rubidium, stay :-) 09:19:03 <planetmaker> ^^ 09:19:17 <dihedral> the channel feels so empty without you :-) 09:19:44 <planetmaker> hm... it helps to have a newer hg version than 1.0.36 09:19:53 <planetmaker> no error on hg up anymore :) 09:19:59 <dihedral> :-P 09:20:06 *** reldred [~richard@115.131.198.120] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:20:33 <Rubidium> looks like you can use a package manager that updates hg for you ;) 09:20:49 <Pizen> planetmaker, nah, I'm just applying a few patches and afterwards distributing the binaries to the friends I play with. 09:21:12 <planetmaker> well... Rubidium my packet manager didn't find a new one. But once I told it where to get it, it accepted it flawlessly :) 09:21:14 <dihedral> "but you English-speaking colleagues propably not to be a very celebrated" <- WHAT? 09:21:51 <planetmaker> but probably I didn't tell yast the proper repository source. So... nvm :) 09:22:15 <Pizen> yeah, about that ... there seems to be quite some problems with the English on the boards at times 09:22:17 <dihedral> "But to me, and so many helps you.." <- hehehe 09:22:37 <planetmaker> "what?" 09:22:39 <Pizen> not that I'd mind normally, but sometimes it reaches the point of no intelligibility 09:22:46 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=791668#p791668 09:22:57 <dihedral> Pizen, hehe might be a 'bug' in phpBB :-D 09:23:12 <Noldo> it's a feature 09:23:18 <dihedral> :-P 09:23:55 <planetmaker> he... 09:24:03 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:25:10 <Pizen> well, cargodist seems to crash when somewhat directly applied to the newest rev. Seems like I have to get my hands dirty :/ 09:25:42 <planetmaker> hehe. the patch is not like a clean solution afaik either 09:26:15 <Pizen> it's not just a diff of the cargodist mercurial to trunk? 09:26:30 <Rexxars> I was thinking about making an OpenTTD tshirt, to complete my geek tshirt collection.. wouldnt that be awesome? :D 09:26:32 <dihedral> i love the forum topic: " Help! Server!" 09:26:33 <planetmaker> oh, that might be, probably will be. 09:26:46 <planetmaker> ^ @ Pizen 09:27:03 <Pizen> then how would it not be a clean solution? unless you mean the actual implementation not being clean ^^ 09:27:13 <dihedral> not implemented nicely? 09:27:18 <planetmaker> but doesn't mean that the patch intrinsically is a good solution to the problem it tries to solve :) 09:27:19 <dihedral> ^^ 09:27:20 <Rubidium> Rexxars: I think someone already tried that 09:27:45 <dihedral> does orudge not have a shop? 09:27:51 <Pizen> nono, I get it. I thought you were talking about the patch not being the best way to get the code in there 09:27:52 <Rubidium> Rexxars: http://www.cafepress.com/openttd 09:27:53 <dihedral> i recall something like that 09:27:59 <planetmaker> Pizen, yes, I mean that. And not sure the approach of it is the desired solution to cargo destinations. 09:28:14 <Rexxars> cool.. not a big fan of cafepress tho, spreadshirt usually does a better job :) 09:28:19 <dihedral> thanks Rubidium :-) 09:28:26 <dihedral> was trying to remember that url 09:28:31 <Rubidium> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39405&start=0 <- well, suggest it ;) 09:29:19 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-16.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:29:21 <dihedral> Rubidium, a mug with the intro game on it could be fun :-D 09:29:23 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:29:34 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:28 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9271.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:33:59 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 09:34:37 *** freepenguin [~free@host49-129-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:35:11 <Pizen> what makes TTDPatch interesting? ie. why is it still active (if it is)? 09:35:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:35:31 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 09:35:35 <Rubidium> that you can disable everything* 09:36:08 <dihedral> * <- hehe 09:36:22 <dihedral> Pizen, why would it not be active? 09:36:23 <Rubidium> (* everything is not everything when you want to play under a Windows from the NT family, anything later than ME) 09:36:53 <Pizen> well, it just seems to me that TTDPatch is OpenTTD with less features. But I've never tried it 09:36:57 <Pizen> TTDPatch, that is 09:37:02 <Hirundo> ttdpatch still has some stuff openttd doesn't have (e.g. custom bridge heads) 09:37:03 <dihedral> ?? 09:37:10 <Pizen> oh, I didn't know that 09:37:13 <dihedral> they are 2 different things Pizen 09:37:17 <Pizen> I know 09:37:26 <dihedral> then the one cannot be the other ;-) 09:37:30 *** freepenguin [~free@host49-129-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37:49 <Pizen> I didn't say it was. Just that my impression was that whatever TTDPatch has done, OpenTTD has also 09:37:52 <Rubidium> neither OpenTTD's features are a superset of TTDPatch's features nor are TTDPatch's features a superset of OpenTTD's features 09:37:54 <Pizen> that turned out to be untrue though 09:38:10 <Pizen> well, that answers my question quite well 09:43:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.177.213] has joined #openttd 10:00:46 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-16.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:09:57 *** Amr0d [~Amr0d@f048164204.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:10:00 <Amr0d> hi 10:10:42 <Pizen> hi 10:10:57 <Pizen> hmm, what exactly is "moving average length" and "moving average unit"? 10:11:09 <Pizen> other than magic 10:14:11 *** Nester [~POCT@cp57183-b.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:14:39 <Nester> morning peeps 10:15:53 <Nester> iam running @ the moment a server can some look fore it on the server list? 10:16:07 <Nester> **dutchBase** its namend 10:16:21 <Noldo> http://www.openttd.org/en/servers 10:17:31 <Pizen> not there 10:17:45 <Nester> well ist not on that servers list! how long does it takes untill the main server will see my server running 10:17:55 <jonty-comp> 0 seconds, usually 10:18:00 <jonty-comp> is it dedicated? 10:18:30 <Nester> its on my priavte computer! 10:18:40 <Nester> runnign mohaa on it too 10:18:51 <jonty-comp> check firewalls and things then is all I can suggest 10:18:59 <jonty-comp> and check it's on internet mode and not lan mode 10:20:30 <Nester> well i restarted the game 10:22:51 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:24:28 <Amr0d> I still need a 4 way 6 track junction 10:24:30 <Amr0d> :( 10:24:39 <Amr0d> But I am to stupid for that I think 10:29:38 <Yexo> do you really need such a big junctions? (do you already have trains running? 10:29:47 <Yexo> if not, try a 4 way 4 track junction first 10:31:00 <dihedral> Amr0d, you can look at the openttdcoop junctionary, it's in the wiki at www.openttdcoop.org 10:31:10 <Amr0d> yea I did 10:31:14 <dihedral> Nester, make sure you are forwarding the udp ports not just the tcp ones 10:31:23 <Amr0d> but there are no 6 track junctions 10:31:27 <Amr0d> only 2 and 4 10:31:51 <dihedral> style would be the same 10:32:00 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:33 <Yexo> Amr0d: there you go http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/images/7/7d/Psg102_bbh01.png 10:32:57 <dihedral> hehehe 10:32:59 <Amr0d> errr......no 10:33:17 <dihedral> these openttdcoop junctions are insance :-) 10:33:22 <dihedral> errrr.....yes 10:34:03 <Yexo> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/images/d/d0/SandboxGame35.png another one 10:34:39 <Amr0d> I want to know how long it takes to build such a junction 10:34:53 <Yexo> depending on the player from a few minutes up to an hour :p 10:35:03 <Amr0d> an hour? 10:35:12 <Amr0d> atleast two days here 10:35:12 <Yexo> I have no idea 10:35:18 <Amr0d> 3 with corrections 10:35:19 <Amr0d> ^^ 10:36:10 <dihedral> Amr0d: then start smaller 10:36:21 <dihedral> or just waste the 3 days you need 10:36:23 <planetmaker> I think a full-style 4-way BBH with two tracks per direction will take me more than an hour. I rather think two. 10:36:24 <Amr0d> I did but it doesn't work 10:36:34 <planetmaker> I only start it, if I'm sure I want to spend the evening on it :) 10:36:37 <Yexo> you're far better off gettnig the techniques that were used to make the junction (split-before join, double bridges, etc.) then copying an exising junction 10:36:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet658.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:37:00 * dihedral nodes at Yexo 10:37:03 <dihedral> *nods 10:37:04 <dihedral> hehe 10:37:07 <dihedral> nodes :-P 10:37:13 <planetmaker> and spending three days initially on it is no waste. It will teach you what works and what not 10:37:14 <Yexo> planetmaker: I had no idea, so I did a random guess 10:37:26 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:37:26 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 10:37:31 <planetmaker> Yexo, there are people who build such things way faster than me. 10:37:51 <Amr0d> I could build a junction, thats not the problem but when I am finished it looks like puking rails all over the field 10:37:51 <dihedral> XeryusTC :-P 10:37:55 <planetmaker> I always exercise some kind of perfectionism :) E.g. not a single slightly slow curve etc ;) 10:38:04 <planetmaker> doubling every bridge / tunnel etc. 10:38:24 <dihedral> planetmaker, it's a game - sure it's a waste of time :-P 10:38:47 <planetmaker> Amr0d, you should really just get a couple of games from our archives and have a look there how different hubs were built. 10:38:52 <planetmaker> you might then get the hang of it. 10:38:56 <planetmaker> dihedral, yes, sure :) 10:39:58 <planetmaker> but can be an enjoyable waste :P 10:40:46 <dihedral> uh yeah it can :-P 10:40:46 *** Nester [~POCT@cp57183-b.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:40:57 <dihedral> addicting 10:41:14 <dihedral> hehe - anonymous openttd addicts :-P 10:43:51 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:49:09 <planetmaker> hehe 11:13:14 <Hirundo> hg.openttd.org gives http error 500 - internal server error 11:13:52 <Hirundo> git results in the same error, svn does work 11:18:26 <oskari89> 10000 lakes scenario in progress :) 11:18:59 <oskari89> Based on heightmap of Finland.. 11:23:12 <oskari89> It _really_ has 10000 lakes :P 11:24:01 <SpComb> one boat in each lake 11:24:19 <oskari89> :P 11:28:02 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 11:29:39 <dihedral> SpComb, you aint gonna get that far :-D 11:29:41 <dihedral> not with yapf :-P 11:30:02 <petern> shouldn't be a problem 11:30:06 <petern> if they don't have orders 11:30:31 <oskari89> Hmm, it's nice to test how ships go from place to another in this one ;) 11:34:03 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:34:03 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:06 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 11:40:13 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177234219.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:40:21 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.52.242] has joined #openttd 11:42:08 <planetmaker> he, that guy with the bus stuck on the pavement is actually right. I can re-produce that. 11:44:39 <planetmaker> FS#2909 ^ 11:46:41 <Hirundo> I couldn't reproduce the pavement thing, but if I deleted a DTRS with a stopped bus inside, it wouldn't go anywhere afterwards 11:46:57 <planetmaker> It worked here :) 11:47:12 <planetmaker> it would then jump from the left pavement to the right and back, turning on each side. 11:47:25 <planetmaker> kinda teleporting over the road in between :D 11:49:31 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177234219.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 11:49:37 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177234219.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:51:32 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@38.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 12:06:30 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:13:22 <Hirundo> What is the preferred variable name for a variable of type Train *, t or v? 12:13:44 <Yexo> currently it's all v 12:13:50 <Yexo> but maybe SmatZ want to change that 12:14:07 <Rubidium> I'd personally go for '*v' (Vehicle) as '*t' is used for Towns 12:14:49 <Hirundo> Thanks, I'll go for v now 12:15:53 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:06 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:06 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 12:26:42 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:33:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:25 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177234219.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 12:50:26 <Amr0d> wohey 12:50:35 <Amr0d> I did it 12:50:42 <Amr0d> build my own junction 12:50:53 <Amr0d> looks abit weird but it works 13:01:58 *** Condac- [~condac@s83-191-224-165.cust.tele2.se] has joined #openttd 13:02:29 *** Condac [~condac@s83-191-224-165.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:07:33 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177234219.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:10:25 <Belugas> hello all 13:16:27 *** mikk36|work [~mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined #openttd 13:16:35 <mikk36|work> hey :) 13:16:53 <mikk36|work> it's nice to see that road vehicles station handling has been finally fixed 13:17:11 <mikk36|work> no pointless queueing for one single station when there are others available 13:17:43 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:19:14 <Belugas> they have? darn... another thing been addressed withouth me noticing 13:19:40 <mikk36|work> 6 stations combined to one and buses share them just fine 13:19:46 <mikk36|work> no clogging up 13:20:38 <Ammler> mikk36|work: maybe you just have luck. 13:20:47 <Yexo> FS#1944, it's still not perfect, but the worst bug was fixed in r14703 13:20:48 <mikk36|work> several games in a row already 13:21:02 <mikk36|work> all 6 stations are rather equally used 13:21:08 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 13:22:50 <Hirundo> Is gcc 3.4.5/MinGW supported by OpenTTD, or is it too old? 13:23:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:55 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 13:24:22 <Yexo> I have that exact version working here 13:27:45 <Rubidium> it's the only 'stable' gcc for mingw :( 13:30:50 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:36:13 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-113-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:51:20 <Eddi|zuHause> why do they have such big problems getting gcc4 running? 13:51:54 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f894:6bfa:a242:a67e] has joined #openttd 13:51:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:52:02 <Belugas> gcc4 has still not received the shoes he ordered ;) 13:52:04 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: because you're trying to run it in a chroot with /dev and /proc ? 13:52:38 <Rubidium> the question is, which gcc4 ;) 13:53:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't really understand what you just said 13:53:37 <Rubidium> s/with/without/ ? 13:56:07 <Rubidium> anyhow, gcc4.3, gcc4.4 and gcc4.5 work fine on my computer 13:59:49 <Eddi|zuHause> then what exactly is the holdup to declaring it "stable"? 14:00:39 <Rubidium> hmm, 'they' as in the mingw people ;) 14:01:28 <Rubidium> they complain about broken compilers and then they promised to release gcc4.2 'soon', which changed into release gcc4.3 'soon', which changed into release gcc4.4 'soon', which I don't trust anymore 14:04:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:47 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:19:52 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:19:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:55 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 14:36:29 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:45 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 14:45:42 *** ASUS [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85f375.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:45:47 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:07 *** ASUS is now known as Roujin 14:50:05 *** Roujin_ [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85f375.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:31 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85f375.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:56 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:09:30 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 15:12:05 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9271.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:00 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:23 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 15:16:57 <PeterT> nobody talks? 15:17:24 <PeterT> whatever 15:17:27 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:20:32 <Roujin_> who's PeterT? evil twin of petern? 15:21:14 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm80.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:21:43 <Rubidium> a template of Peter 15:22:01 <Roujin_> :) 15:27:25 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:03 *** nicfer [~nico@168.226.104.88] has joined #openttd 15:29:39 <z-MaTRiX> hi 15:30:00 <nicfer> heya 15:31:09 <Belugas> funny... nobody talks, and he quits... Why didn't he started a conversation instead?? 15:31:16 <Belugas> people... go figure... 15:31:23 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0C201.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:26 <z-MaTRiX> found bug in AI 15:32:44 <Eddi|zuHause> lucky you, keep it. 15:33:05 <Eddi|zuHause> hang it on the wall of your hunting chamber 15:33:15 <z-MaTRiX> "Your script made an error the index 'station_manager' does not exist" 15:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that is most likely known... refer to the AI's thread 15:34:39 <Yexo> yes, it's known 15:34:43 <z-MaTRiX> ok 15:35:13 <z-MaTRiX> is there a log file with AI-debug? 15:35:20 <Yexo> nope 15:41:42 <z-MaTRiX> was searching for it 15:49:48 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Adia?.] 15:55:43 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85f375.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:56:55 <XeryusTC> Amr0d> I want to know how long it takes to build such a junction <- depending on the junction from half an hour to half a day 15:58:32 <Amr0d> http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amr0dtransport10apr1945.png&via=tfrog 15:58:47 <Amr0d> after trying and trying I managed to build my own 15:59:02 <Amr0d> was pretty hard in my opinion but it works very good 15:59:33 <Amr0d> costs about 70m EUR :) 15:59:56 <Amr0d> most of it was spend to flatten the land 16:01:15 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85f375.pool.einsundeins.de] has left #openttd [] 16:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that's one of the reasons why i think such junctions are the wrong approach... 16:01:32 <Eddi|zuHause> why flatten the landscape if you can take it to your advantage? 16:02:20 <petern> urgh 16:02:21 <petern> how ugly 16:02:31 *** Roujin_ [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85f375.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:40 <petern> and an attack of signals everywhere 16:03:06 <Amr0d> its my first one :) 16:03:09 <Amr0d> be patient 16:03:16 <Amr0d> I will build better ones 16:05:41 <Eddi|zuHause> we need a gameplay mechanism to thwart the whole signal-every-tile mess 16:06:14 <Eddi|zuHause> like limiting speed to 20km/h*signal distance 16:06:23 <petern> :D 16:07:34 <Eddi|zuHause> that would be so cool to force the coop people to a 15 tile distance when they want to go 300km/h :p 16:08:12 <Ammler> lol :P 16:08:16 <Amr0d> thats crap 16:08:45 <Amr0d> otherwise I couldn't send hundreds of trains on my rails 16:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it would add another dimension to deciding an optimal train length 16:09:08 <Ammler> a switch Be1ugas/Eddi mode 16:10:06 <Eddi|zuHause> why "switch"? in no place i used the "r"-word ;) 16:10:32 <Ammler> :-) 16:10:48 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:14:13 <Ammler> well, that junction of Amr0d has nothing to do with coop. 16:14:33 <Amr0d> is there a difference? 16:14:42 <Eddi|zuHause> no, but it shows a certain direction 16:14:46 <Amr0d> aslong as it works it should be ok 16:14:47 <Ammler> except it is using the same game engine ;-) 16:15:36 <Ammler> that is more like a wiki.openttd.org junction :-) 16:15:45 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 16:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause> and i wasn't referring to his junction specifically. i was formulating a new challenge to the "we take every challenge" people :p 16:16:13 <Amr0d> its my first one and i am lucky :) 16:16:20 <Amr0d> because it works 16:17:00 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: of course, it would be nice to find a way "around" :-) 16:17:03 <Eddi|zuHause> as in "i hereby challenge you to a (strict) 15 tile signal distance game" 16:17:50 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:18:32 <Belugas> [12:12] <Ammler> a switch Be1ugas/Eddi mode <--- that was sneaky! It almost is good enough for a kick! 16:19:19 <Ammler> ah, I tried to make it secret from you, m?h, I failed :-D 16:19:35 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, that would be part of a per-game config, a bit lke the goal stuff 16:20:14 <Belugas> Ammler, even if i do not pollute the channel with all the insanities laying in my head, i still read most of it when at work 16:20:17 <Belugas> :) 16:20:18 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:30 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 16:20:33 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:20:53 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:21:44 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it could be a simple (mental) game restriction, but it could be useful to have a gameplay mechanism that enforces/encourages certain behaviour 16:22:00 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: btw, the 1st or 2nd cargodest coop game with celestar had signal gaps like that and most junctions were included to stations. 16:22:01 <Eddi|zuHause> like the physics simulator enforcing curve radius 16:22:18 <Ammler> (we are able to play that style) 16:22:25 <Ammler> just not many of us :-( 16:24:07 <Ammler> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Dev_Server#.22Subrules.22_for_current_Pax.2FCargo_Destination_game 16:24:14 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:25:02 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:27 <Ammler> "3) Block signals are every 15 tiles" 16:30:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.160.117] has joined #openttd 16:33:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:36:11 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.30.61] has joined #openttd 16:37:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.177.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fde99.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:48:21 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.52.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:06 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.52.242] has joined #openttd 16:50:39 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:05:25 <Eddi|zuHause> one thing i noticed with long signal distances is that the block length should be platform length + junction length, otherwise you increase the signal distance at stations 17:10:20 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm80.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:21 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:52 <petern> um 17:12:58 <petern> you do? 17:13:44 <Eddi|zuHause> well, yes. you have one signal before the junction and one signal behind the platform 17:13:57 <Eddi|zuHause> inbetween are no safe waiting locations 17:17:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16448 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#2909]: road vehicles ending up on the pavement when they are in a drive through station that got removed due to bankruptcy 17:19:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16449 /trunk/src/engine_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2924]: vehicle recolouring wasn't done for engine preview/news 17:22:22 <petern> heh, "Fix" 17:22:31 <petern> vehicles have never ever been recoloured in the news message 17:23:25 <Rubidium> why do it for the build vehicles gui and not there? 17:23:41 <petern> who knows 17:24:17 *** snorre [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 17:27:06 <Chruker> Can the newgrf stations have layouts where the tracks turn or switch direction? 17:27:18 <petern> no 17:27:37 <Eddi|zuHause> they should have, but petern screwed it up :p 17:29:02 *** Amr0d [~Amr0d@f048164204.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 17:29:11 <Belugas> liar liar, pants on fire 17:29:13 <Chruker> 2nd Q: Are the sounds in openttd the original ones? If so are there any projects aiming at replacing them? 17:29:31 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. 17:29:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:45 <Ammler> (and yes) 17:29:45 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:14 <Muxy> Kiss from Goulp 17:31:11 <Belugas> Lick from Belugas 17:31:22 <petern> Punch from Ammler 17:31:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i should sue this goulp guy for sexual harrassment 17:31:58 <Muxy> thanks men 17:32:47 <Belugas> who said we are men? 17:33:09 <Belugas> who said we were boys? 17:33:18 <Muxy> hum i suposed there's minimum one... 17:33:53 <Muxy> should i says, thanks shadocks 17:34:07 <Muxy> *say 17:35:32 *** nicfer [~nico@168.226.104.88] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:36:20 <Belugas> we are electronic entities floating on an eternal flux of strange and marvelous particles 17:36:28 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:38:03 <Prof_Frink> charmingly strange. 17:38:47 <Sacro> who me? 17:40:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: translators * r16450 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:40:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-05-27 17:39:46 17:40:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 2 fixed by khaloofah (2) 17:40:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: danish - 2 fixed by ThomasA (2) 17:40:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: english_US - 2 fixed by WhiteRabbit (2) 17:40:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: indonesian - 2 fixed, 8 changed by anansboga (10) 17:40:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: romanian - 1 changed by CrystyB (1) 17:41:40 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:45:41 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:45:50 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has joined #openttd 17:47:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:55 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 17:50:22 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.30.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:47 *** lobstar 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[~frosch@frnk-590fde99.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:15 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 20:35:53 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has joined #openttd 20:36:31 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs1.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:13 <EoD> hi 20:39:06 <Belugas> hi 20:42:27 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 20:43:21 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:19 <Wolf01> 'night 20:46:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host81-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:49:50 <Belugas> soooo boringly vague... does not even deserve the usual Go Search answer -> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=43730 20:50:07 <Belugas> Mommy Mommy! Gimme Gimme! 20:50:38 *** FooBar_ [~chatzilla@ip56581491.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 20:51:02 <z-MaTRiX> hey 20:51:24 <FooBar_> hi 20:57:09 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:57:21 <Belugas> bye bye, time to hit the road 20:57:26 <Rubidium> yes Belugas, we know you want to go home ;) 20:57:32 <Belugas> :D 20:57:35 <Belugas> i want? 20:57:36 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:38 <Belugas> i CRAVE!!!!! 20:57:38 <Rubidium> got to Mommy! :) 20:57:40 * Belugas is gnoe 21:02:42 <Prof_Frink> Are you my mummy? 21:04:59 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:55 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has joined #openttd 21:06:22 <FooBar_> is it always this of a ghost town around here? 21:06:35 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 21:06:42 <FooBar_> I'd expect some more activity given the length of the user list and all... 21:06:45 <Rubidium> it is when there's nothing special to talk about or nbodoy to bash 21:06:57 <Prof_Frink> Where's Sacro when you need him? 21:07:20 <Rubidium> in Huhll? 21:07:27 <Sacro> zHm? 21:07:30 <FooBar_> you can try and bash me, but that might make me leave :P 21:07:53 <Rubidium> bash: FooBar_: No such file or directory 21:07:54 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:59 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: you rang? 21:08:00 <Rubidium> sorry, it failed 21:08:06 <FooBar_> lol :) 21:08:25 * Prof_Frink bashes Sacro 21:09:08 <Sacro> ow :( 21:09:22 <Prof_Frink> Rubidium: There's no H in Ull 21:10:07 <FooBar_> There's two in Huhll ;) 21:10:16 <Rubidium> it's no unsigned long long, but a Huh long long 21:10:28 <Prof_Frink> Y'what, eh? 21:11:13 <EoD> hint64_t? 21:12:33 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:53 <Prof_Frink> You're talking nonsenser! 21:13:36 <Rubidium> did I ever talk non-non-sense? 21:14:30 <Prof_Frink> No. But you're talking nonsenser than usual. 21:25:52 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 21:26:11 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: nonce sense? 21:31:46 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 21:32:04 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 21:34:46 <welshdragon> if(nonsense=true)bash Sacro 21:35:09 <welshdragon> i have no idea if that makes any sense 21:35:23 <Eddi|zuHause> checking the result of an assignment, always great ;) 21:36:37 <Prof_Frink> welshdragon: while :; do bash Sacro; done 21:36:57 <welshdragon> hmm 21:37:19 <Eddi|zuHause> :(){ :|:& };: 21:37:22 <Prof_Frink> bash bashing. 21:37:23 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: I don't see the problem, just bash Sacro anyway :) 21:37:24 <Prof_Frink> ESOD! 21:37:39 <Yexo> I've no idea what that does, but I'm not going to try 21:37:50 <Prof_Frink> It's the Evil Smiley Of Death. 21:37:54 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: hmm I should really type that on my bash prompt, ideally as root 21:37:59 <SmatZ> just to see what it does 21:38:04 <Prof_Frink> Look up "Fork Bomb" on wikipedia 21:38:38 <Eddi|zuHause> the way i see it, ":" is a parallel-recursive function 21:38:52 <SmatZ> & doesn't even need to be there 21:39:00 <SmatZ> (at least last time I tried it ;) 21:39:16 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 21:46:28 <welshdragon> i tried forkbombing my macbook 21:46:38 <welshdragon> they have forkbomb protection 21:46:52 * welshdragon goes to forkbomb his vista machine 21:48:13 <Prof_Frink> ulimit, iirc 21:48:25 <welshdragon> yep 21:48:56 <SmatZ> some linux distros have "rf -Rf /" protection 21:50:15 <Prof_Frink> alias rm='rm --preserve-root' 22:03:10 <Sacro> unlink / 22:09:45 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9271.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:47 <Prof_Frink> Or just go for a good old fashioned dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda 22:22:27 <SmatZ> will that work without bs= ? 22:23:01 <Prof_Frink> I don't know, and I'm not going to try. 22:24:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:04 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs7.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 22:27:20 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:05 <Eddi|zuHause> it's using a default bs of 1024, or something 22:29:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-34-135.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:20 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:47 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39:17 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:45:43 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs1.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 22:49:25 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs7.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:20 <Chruker> is it just me or are the rail and road ai libraries on bananas outdated compared to what people have been posting on the forum? 23:04:00 <Yexo> there are newer versions on the forum, but they are still waiting on feedback before I'll upload those to bananas 23:04:07 <Yexo> at least I hope so 23:05:11 <Chruker> is it the licensing thingy you are waiting on feedback for? or just whether or not the modified versions work? 23:06:03 <Yexo> no, whether everyone is ok with the modified version 23:06:03 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:06:16 <Yexo> but it's quite some time I checked those thread, I'll do so now 23:07:11 <Chruker> Could also use a ship/canals pathfinder 23:07:22 <Yexo> feel free to write one ;) 23:07:44 <Yexo> I probably have some (old) code to help you get started if you want 23:07:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-34-135.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 23:08:29 <Chruker> It cant hurt :-) 23:09:24 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/boatai.zip <- a ship ai I wrote quite some time ago 23:09:41 <Yexo> main function is problably only constructino lines between to random docks or so 23:09:51 <Yexo> but there is a working ship pathfinder in there 23:09:59 <Yexo> feel free to use any code under gpl 23:10:23 <Chruker> nice 23:11:43 <Yexo> and for updated pathfinder you can also look in the code for the available AIs 23:11:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16452 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix: don't trigger station animations when the station was deleted in the same tick 23:12:01 <Yexo> as far as I know all of them are under gpl 23:12:59 *** SineDeviance [~jman@cpe-075-176-106-090.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:11 <oskari89> Station animations? 23:13:20 <oskari89> Is that possible? O_O 23:13:28 <oskari89> Hmm.. 23:13:33 <Yexo> yes, several newgrfs already include them 23:13:47 <oskari89> Is station sound possible too? 23:13:57 <Yexo> quite possible, but I'm not sure about that 23:14:35 <Rubidium> oskari89: not on deleted stations ;) 23:14:57 <oskari89> Would be nice if, for example, electric catenary feeder station would have 50 hz buzzing stationary sound :) 23:15:22 <oskari89> Planned to Finnish Rail Infrastructure & Stations set. 23:15:27 <SineDeviance> hah i love waking up to my openttd game and having a billion dollars 23:21:32 *** reldred1 [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:21:46 *** reldred1 [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [] 23:31:12 <oskari89> Yexo: Is it possible to have stationary sound on level crossing? Like relay ticking? :) 23:31:24 <Yexo> I don't think so, but again I don't know 23:31:32 <Yexo> ask frosch when he's around again 23:31:42 <oskari89> Okay :) 23:32:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:35:46 <oskari89> Would be a blow on certain enthustians at Finland if it is possible ;) 23:36:32 *** FooBar_ [~chatzilla@ip56581491.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 23:37:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16453 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix: Move some code around so a company is no longer used after deleting it 23:38:27 <Yexo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=791401#p791401 How to do a discussion NekoMaster style: 23:38:39 <Yexo> He: OpenTTD is better then TTDPatch 23:38:47 <Yexo> someone else: but TTDPatch does ... better 23:38:52 <Yexo> he: I don't know about that 23:39:04 <Yexo> it's so easy discussing things that way :p 23:39:21 *** Aali_ [~aali@84-217-23-7.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:20 <oskari89> :DD 23:40:53 * SmatZ has NekoMaster in his Foes list 23:41:11 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-23-47.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:11 <Yexo> I dislike the foes list, since post from foes still mark a topic as unread 23:41:20 <SmatZ> yeah :( 23:41:25 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:41:47 <Yexo> and when I used it, I read replies from other people,then ended up checking the reply from my foe anyway because I couldn't follow the discussion 23:41:54 <SmatZ> "invisable" "giuve" "simular" ... in one sentence :-x 23:42:01 <SmatZ> hehe 23:42:03 <SmatZ> true 23:42:42 * oskari89 is wondering how to draw this: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Liikenteenohjauskeskus_Pieks%C3%A4m%C3%A4ki.jpg 23:42:42 <SmatZ> and all his sentences look like this 23:42:45 <Yexo> normally I don't care about some spelling mistakes, it's more the contents of his posts I dislike 23:43:00 <SmatZ> that too :) 23:43:07 <SmatZ> there is a limit though... 23:43:47 *** theholyduck_ [~holyduck@38.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:46 <Eddi|zuHause> oskari89: you start with one pixel, then put the next one next to it, then another one, and so on, until you have a satisfactory set of pixels 23:52:31 <SineDeviance> hey guys i have a question 23:53:13 <SineDeviance> what's the biggest map you could run stable and smooth on a dedicated server running on a 1500mhz athlonxp and 512meg of ram? 23:53:17 <SineDeviance> oh and winxp 23:53:30 <Yexo> that really depends on the amount of vehicles 23:53:38 <Yexo> but as always: just try and see what works 23:53:43 <SineDeviance> okay 23:53:51 <Yexo> the memory won't be the issue 23:53:59 <SineDeviance> yeah i'm running 512x512 right now with maybe 80 trains and 20 aircraft 23:54:04 <SineDeviance> it's running smoothly so far 23:55:24 *** Aali_ is now known as Aali 23:57:35 <Eddi|zuHause> back with miniin i had a game that was getting slow with about 120 trains 23:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause> but that had general speed issues, so a current trunk game should be better than that 23:58:12 <Eddi|zuHause> 1500mhz is plenty 23:58:16 <SineDeviance> okay 23:58:17 <SineDeviance> awesome 23:58:53 <SmatZ> openttdcoop is running ~512x512 games with >1000 trains 23:59:03 <SmatZ> and ~1.5GHz CPU is sufficient for that 23:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause> original TT was starting to get slow on a 60MHz computer with 80 trains 23:59:18 <SineDeviance> SmatZ, seriously? that's pretty amazing 23:59:26 <SmatZ> so unless you are going to have that many trains, you can play 1024x1024 maps :) 23:59:40 <SineDeviance> SmatZ, haha give me enough time and i could :D 23:59:48 <SineDeviance> the most i've ever had on a singleplayer game was 2800 23:59:52 <SineDeviance> 2048x2048 23:59:57 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16454 /trunk/src/3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/sqvm.cpp: -Fix (r16181, r16241): fix the try/catch bug fixed in r16181 and reintroduced in r16241 again, this time without breaking the regression test.