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I guess because they were drawn that way. But are there? 10:57:01 *** SmatZ is now known as Guest89 10:57:02 *** Guest80 is now known as SmatZ 10:57:07 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 10:57:25 *** Guest89 [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:58:03 <planetmaker> the houses which I coded should be < 32 pixels - iirc 10:58:18 <planetmaker> but, sure, there might be others. Do you have an example? 10:58:20 <Rubidium> planetmaker: everything with "66 -31" is suspect 10:59:28 <Rubidium> e.g. sprite 384 of building.pcx 11:00:34 <Rubidium> (also known as #77) 11:00:55 <Rubidium> or shall we call it OGFX#77? 11:01:37 <planetmaker> issue numbers a unique throughout the whole devzone, so #77 is fine :-) 11:03:51 <planetmaker> hm... but why is everything with 66 -31 suspect? It's 63 pixels across from left to right, isn't it? 11:04:44 <planetmaker> And #384... well, has a transparent line on the left and right. Though, admittedly, there are two non transparent pixels on the left of that building. Dunno why. 11:04:53 <planetmaker> *sprite #384 in buildings.pcx 11:05:36 <Rubidium> planetmaker: because (town) building sprites must be at most 64 pixels wide 11:05:56 <Rubidium> and with 66 pixels wide, the 31 is likely wrong too 11:06:34 <planetmaker> well. But that sprite is from x=674 to x=739, thus with a delta of 26+39 = 65 pixels. And one of those lines is completely transparent. 11:07:10 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 11:07:19 <Rubidium> thus, as described in the NewGRF specs/TTDP wiki it will glitch 11:09:15 <planetmaker> indeed with the two left pixels it may. 11:09:22 <Rubidium> still, if it's 2 wider and still centered, the xoffs needs to be 1 less 11:09:56 <planetmaker> most likely, yes 11:10:18 <planetmaker> I'll add this conversation to the ticket :-) 11:11:43 <planetmaker> and those two pixels could be shaved off w/o significant loss. 11:13:02 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:17:57 *** GregVernon [~Greg@user-0c9aat3.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:45 *** GregVernon [~Greg@user-0c9aat3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 11:18:55 <OwenS> TrueBrain_: AlterScript now executes something somewhat useless :P 11:19:35 <TrueBrain_> sounds very useful 11:19:39 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 11:20:03 <OwenS> I suppose the next step is to actually implement variables :p 11:29:50 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 11:30:46 *** Lisby [~l@x1-6-00-17-3f-55-57-df.k467.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 11:45:37 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host86-129-5-248.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:45:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:45:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:46:49 *** Pygmalion [~quassel@88.151.27.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:35 *** OwenS is now known as Guest93 11:47:36 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 11:47:42 <OwenS> dns1.llvm.org returned (SERVFAIL) <-- ANNOYING 11:51:00 *** Guest93 [~oshepherd@host86-129-6-166.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:51:37 <TrueBrain> not being able to fix your DOS emulator, now THAT is annoying 11:51:41 <OwenS> apt-get install llvm-doc <-- Workarround :P 11:52:41 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76480.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:53:34 <OwenS> libAlterScript.so: 19.9MB. I SO hope thats all debugging info 11:53:45 <TrueBrain> hahahahahahaha 11:53:50 <TrueBrain> strip libAlterScript.so 11:53:53 <TrueBrain> and you will know 11:54:01 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@201-103-8.connect.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 11:54:05 <OwenS> 8.7MB 11:54:06 <TrueBrain> btw, using uppercase in linux shared libraries is not FHS (or what is the name) 11:54:12 <OwenS> LLVM = Huge 11:54:47 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0355d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 11:54:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:54:57 <OwenS> How have 1.5MB of objects produced 8.7MB of binary?! 11:56:20 <Rubidium> linking with other libs 11:56:54 <OwenS> Aah woops had the LLVM link in the wrong place 11:57:26 <OwenS> 768.2kb interpreter, 8mb llvm... 11:58:15 <OwenS> No... 170kb interpreter (Forgot to strip) 12:01:12 <OwenS> I have big dependencies = very yes 12:05:10 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@16-100-8.connect.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 12:05:38 <OsteHovel> Why do my pda always run out of battery 12:07:04 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0355d.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:35 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host86-129-5-248.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:55 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host86-129-5-248.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:09:50 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@201-103-8.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:55 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0355d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:11:31 *** OsteHovel is now known as OsteHovel^PDA 12:22:35 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@16-100-8.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:43 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:26:46 *** Chruker [~no@0x5da34ce4.vjnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:27:14 <TrueBrain> woei, WT3.1 is starting to do something :) 12:27:31 <planetmaker> :-) 12:28:05 <TrueBrain> I think I like my API now :) 12:28:07 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 12:28:40 <OwenS> OK, I'm now alloca'ing local variables =) 12:31:32 <TrueBrain> stupiest thing about WT3.1, most of the time is in reading and processing a format to the database .. after that it is a walk in the park .. say, 60% goes into that job, 20% into making the frontend API, and 20% into the frontend itself .. stupid stuff :p 12:32:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36:55 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 12:37:22 <OwenS> I should learn Dot syntax so I can generate pretty graphs of my AST :p 12:45:42 <Belugas> hello 12:45:47 <TrueBrain> morning Belugas 12:46:12 <Belugas> last day of work! 12:46:16 <Belugas> good day, TrueBrain 12:46:23 * TrueBrain gets the party heads 12:46:52 <Belugas> :) 13:04:23 *** Svish|eee [~Svish@84.20.108.24] has joined #openttd 13:09:43 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177231096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:23 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177228015.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:21:50 <OwenS> OK, LLVM Optimizer, I'd like to ask... WHAT GAVE YOU THE MORONIC IDEA THAT THE ENTRY POINT OF A FUNCTION IS UNREACHABLE?! 13:22:40 *** Svish|eee [~Svish@84.20.108.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:51 <OwenS> blathijs: any clue? :p 13:24:16 *** colde_ is now known as colde 13:26:50 <OwenS> What appears to be happening is the instruction combining pass vomits then one of the later passes has a fit... 13:31:18 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1181:da06:c4db:98f4] has joined #openttd 13:31:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:32:01 <planetmaker> re 13:34:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17101 /trunk/src/misc/hashtable.hpp: -Revert [FS#3065](r16546): large table on stack caused stack overflow on some architectures 14:00:19 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I want a sed to only give me the first match ... but it gives me the latest :( 14:01:45 *** Svish|eee [~Svish@84.20.108.24] has joined #openttd 14:02:33 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 14:02:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure there was a command for that 14:03:11 <TrueBrain> sed -r 's/(.*)distance:"(.*) km"(.*)//' 14:03:14 <TrueBrain> is the best I could come up with 14:10:34 <TrueBrain> I hate sed :( 14:13:07 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: any more clues about the input file format? 14:13:20 <TrueBrain> distance:"12 km",distance:"14 km" 14:13:25 <Rubidium> like e.g. no ':' before distance 14:13:31 <TrueBrain> (blabla),distance:"12 km",(blabla),distance:"14 km",(blabla) 14:14:11 <Rubidium> s/^[^:]*distance:"(.*) km.*// 14:14:51 <Rubidium> s/^[^:]*distance:"([^,]*) km.*// <- maybe even that 14:15:23 <TrueBrain> matches everything 14:15:30 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 14:16:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought it was \( and \)? 14:17:04 <TrueBrain> I simply don't get why it would only return the last entry .. :( 14:17:55 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 14:18:11 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 14:18:17 <Rubidium> because of it's lazy behaviour; oh, the '.' still matches, ... 14:18:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what if you pipe it through "tr ',' '\n'" first? 14:18:51 <Rubidium> hmm too far, now I need to backtrack, which results in the last to be matched 14:19:07 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: lol, in reality, the values are like: 12,6 km 14:19:09 <TrueBrain> :( 14:19:17 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... 14:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> makes it more difficult ;) 14:20:14 *** Svish|eee [~Svish@84.20.108.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:20:27 <Rubidium> echo "(blabla),distance:"12 km",(blabla),distance:"14 km",(blabla)" | sed 's/^[^:]*distance:\([^ ]*\) km.*$//' 14:20:30 <TrueBrain> grep "distance\:" | tr , '\n' | grep distance -A1 | tr '\n' , | cut -b 11- | cut -d\" -f1 14:20:33 <TrueBrain> fucking sed :p 14:20:45 <Eddi|zuHause> what about s/[^d]*distance:"([0-9.,]*) km".*//? 14:21:01 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: for some reason, it returns ALL data on my stream 14:21:10 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: it doesn't for me 14:21:18 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: on MY stream 14:21:30 <Rubidium> unless you've not given a representable section of the stream 14:21:37 <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't change lines that do not contain "distance" 14:22:03 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: yours leaves the result on the end of the string, that is something :p 14:22:31 <z-MaTRiX> depends on what would you like to do 14:22:38 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: the string contains 19k chars, sorry if it is not represenstable enough :p 14:23:24 <TrueBrain> but okay, tnx, I now got something working :) 14:23:27 <TrueBrain> stupid sed ..... 14:23:42 <Eddi|zuHause> regexp are not the ultimate language ;) 14:24:16 <z-MaTRiX> :) 14:24:32 <TrueBrain> I needed to calculate the distance to and from my roommates parents home :p 14:24:56 <Rubidium> googol aarde? 14:25:16 <TrueBrain> so now I fetch an url from google maps, and I needed to strip everything which didn't indicate the distance :p 14:25:33 <OwenS> OK WTF is up with llvm.org? =( 14:25:35 <z-MaTRiX> i see 14:25:56 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: maybe yacc would have been a more fitting tool ;) 14:26:14 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: Yacc/Bison and Lex/Flex/Re2c :p 14:26:14 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: yeah ... it is stupid that with tr, grep, and cut, I have the result faster than sed :( 14:26:51 * OwenS generates doxyfile for llvm headers... 14:27:15 <Eddi|zuHause> ply and a decent tutorial, and you have the result in no time... 14:27:52 <Rubidium> OwenS: I can only say what's not up with llvm.org 14:28:07 <OwenS> How do both DNS servers go down at once? O_o 14:28:44 <OwenS> No... How do both DNS servers go SERVFAIL at once I should say. Both going down would imply possible DDOS (Though why is a question :P ) 14:28:47 <Rubidium> someone with a fancy script that uses an already fixed exploit in the DNS server? 14:29:00 <OwenS> Probably if it's BIND... 14:29:10 <Rubidium> or some incorrect setting that got mirrored and screwed it up 14:29:18 <Rubidium> bah... 14:29:26 <Rubidium> why has firefox become so suicidal lately? 14:30:04 <OwenS> Go Opera? :P 14:30:51 <Rubidium> didn't that waste even more memory? 14:31:21 <OwenS> I've never had Opera go suicidal on me 14:33:10 <TrueBrain> hiih, google, was thinking I was a bot :p 14:34:54 <OwenS> LLVM... I'm calling PassManager::run on a module... why aren't you actually running the passes? 14:35:00 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051008027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:35:04 <OwenS> I'd like my functions inlining, y'know? :p 14:35:41 <OwenS> I so love Opera's undo close tab feature 14:35:58 <Rubidium> ff 3 has that too 14:37:46 <z-MaTRiX> TrueBrain<< ?d say fucking grep 14:37:57 <z-MaTRiX> sed is a nice guy 14:38:07 <TrueBrain> what ever dude 14:39:46 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.199.27] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:42:17 <z-MaTRiX> check this out 14:42:42 <z-MaTRiX> $ printf "(blabla),distance:"12 km",(blabla),distance:"14 km",(blabla)\n" | grep -io 'distance:"12 km"' 14:43:06 <OwenS> Hmm... perhaps the reason my functions were dissapearing was because I was declaring them with private linkage and LLVM was discarding them :p 14:47:03 <z-MaTRiX> eh 14:47:08 <Eddi|zuHause> z-MaTRiX: i'm not sure you actually understood the problem 14:47:25 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I thought it would be easier to ignore him 14:47:31 <z-MaTRiX> just realized your echo is not proper 14:48:09 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: yeah, i tend to screw that up... i'm too nice of a person 14:48:14 <TrueBrain> clearly 14:48:15 <TrueBrain> :) 14:48:19 <z-MaTRiX> should be 14:48:21 <z-MaTRiX> printf '(blabla),distance:"12 km",(blabla),distance:"14 km",(blabla)\n' | 14:48:23 <TrueBrain> btw, civ4 has some nasty language file 14:48:32 <Eddi|zuHause> yes ;) 14:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i can send you the files, if you want to have a live example 14:48:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:51 <TrueBrain> in time :) 14:49:09 <z-MaTRiX> anyway here is your solution 14:49:11 <z-MaTRiX> printf '(blabla),distance:"12 km",(blabla),distance:"14 km",(blabla)\n' | grep -Eio 'distance[ ]*:["]*[0-9.,][0-9.,]*[ ]*(m|km)' | sed -re 's;.*distance:[ ]*["]*([0-9]+[ ]*(km|m)).*;;Ig' 14:49:11 <TrueBrain> I expected it to be really easy, but it will require more time 14:49:31 <TrueBrain> so I will first finish OpenTTD, and make that to work completely, then work on civ4 :) 14:50:16 <Eddi|zuHause> the "simple" part might already be helping me 14:51:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. the <Language>string</Language> part and the automatic generation of all missing strings 14:51:27 <Eddi|zuHause> without the <Gender> stuff 14:51:28 <TrueBrain> that would be relative easy :) 14:51:58 <Eddi|zuHause> just make sure the complex stuff is not destroyed 14:52:12 <TrueBrain> that is harder ;) 14:54:04 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.5] has joined #openttd 14:54:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you could convert the complex stuff as raw string, and convert it back on saving 14:55:37 <TrueBrain> gimme some time, I will make you something pretty :) 14:58:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 15:01:21 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:06:06 <Belugas> a cake? 15:06:16 <Belugas> a painting? 15:06:21 <Belugas> a sculpture? 15:06:25 <Belugas> a picture? 15:06:35 <Belugas> a smile! 15:06:40 <Belugas> that would be pretty 15:07:10 * Eddi|zuHause imagines TB's smile to more resemble an evil grin :p 15:07:23 <Eddi|zuHause> (the BOFH kind) 15:07:56 <z-MaTRiX> Belugas<< dont forget the printed circuit board <, 15:08:07 <TrueBrain> Belugas: http://media.ongein.nl/ONGEIN.NL_10431?source=2009/71d7351322dc98895200d7431638c455a084e57f.jpg 15:08:09 <TrueBrain> like this? 15:10:00 <Belugas> lol! 15:10:02 <Belugas> yeah :D 15:13:35 <Ammler> Rubidium: opengfx download from my server is around 10% as from BaNaNaS 15:14:09 <Ammler> (so, not really noticeable :-) 15:15:12 <Rubidium> Ammler: I was more thinking about what happens if it gets downloaded 100 times more from your server 15:15:19 <Ammler> no issue 15:15:30 <Ammler> I have around 2.5 TB free 15:15:55 <Ammler> the whole openttd binareis need around 100 GB 15:17:01 <Rubidium> then you got a whole lot of spare ;) 15:17:32 <Ammler> no, only 10 GB 15:17:44 <Ammler> I use around 500 GB for Torrents 15:18:21 <Ammler> well, you are free to use it, if you want ;-) 15:18:38 <Ammler> your key is already there. 15:18:39 <TrueBrain> I thought the conversation was about bandwidth? 15:19:04 <Ammler> my harddisk is very limited 15:19:11 <Ammler> around 5 GB free 15:19:24 <TrueBrain> so you have 5 GB diskspace free and 10 GB bandwidth? 15:19:26 <TrueBrain> :s 15:19:38 <Ammler> I have 3 TB bandwith 15:19:50 <Ammler> but I need only around 0.5 15:20:01 <TrueBrain> I think I should stop trying to follow this conversation :) 15:20:06 <Ammler> :-) 15:20:23 <z-MaTRiX> TrueBrain<< did i solve the problem? 15:20:29 <TrueBrain> [17:17] <Rubidium> then you got a whole lot of spare ;) 15:20:31 <TrueBrain> [17:17] <Ammler> no, only 10 GB 15:20:37 <TrueBrain> I think that was just a but timing ;) 15:20:57 <Ammler> that was refering to "[17:16] <Ammler> the whole openttd binareis need around 100 GB" 15:21:01 <TrueBrain> :) 15:21:02 <TrueBrain> haha 15:21:14 <TrueBrain> okay :) I really was wondering why you would only have 10 GB of free bandwidth :p 15:21:16 <TrueBrain> hehehe :) 15:21:44 <Ammler> there is also the traffic for the is2 and cargodist binaries 15:22:55 <TrueBrain> we use just 750 GB of traffic a month :p (openttd.org only) 15:23:28 <Ammler> I need that too, with the Torrents :-P 15:23:47 <TrueBrain> so our legal bandwidth is higher than your illegal :) 15:23:49 <TrueBrain> nice ;) 15:24:18 <OwenS> TrueBrain: He may be distributing Linux ISOs ;-) 15:24:22 <Ammler> hmm, I share only legal stuff from there :P 15:24:24 <TrueBrain> yeah, sure 15:24:35 <Ammler> yes openSUSE 15:24:49 <TrueBrain> I do not believe you!! :P 15:24:54 <OwenS> Terrible choice of distro :p 15:24:56 <Ammler> but mostly TV shows 15:25:08 <glx> that can't be legal :) 15:25:23 <Ammler> dunno, here it is, but where my server is located, it might be not. 15:25:39 <Ammler> well, the ISP knows about it. 15:25:54 <TrueBrain> in which country is it legal to upload illegal material? 15:26:04 <OwenS> Flaah... How am I supposed to GEP this? O_o 15:26:30 <Ammler> well, we quit that discussion :P 15:26:47 <TrueBrain> maybe I should ask: where is here? 15:27:06 <Ammler> here is ammler.ch 15:27:35 <TrueBrain> clearly no laws there :p Hihi :) 15:28:03 <Ammler> but the server is in germany 15:28:52 <TrueBrain> okay, I need to solve this graph ... I have 16 points with the distance between each point, I want the fastest route to all those points :p 15:28:54 <OwenS> As far as I'm aware uploading copyrighted material without permission is illegal anywhere 15:28:55 <TrueBrain> hehehehe :) 15:29:00 <TrueBrain> (classes flash before my eyes) 15:29:15 <TrueBrain> well, for sure in Germany :p Retarted country :) 15:29:17 <OwenS> TrueBrain: Isn't that travelling salesperson? :P 15:29:18 <TrueBrain> Mwhahahahahaha :) 15:29:21 <TrueBrain> OwenS: yes it is :) 15:29:41 <OwenS> I had an exam in May where I had to solve a travelling salesperson by hand... fun :p 15:29:50 <TrueBrain> for small graphs, not a real issue 15:29:55 <TrueBrain> even more if there are missing legs 15:30:29 <Ammler> OwenS: not here :P 15:30:38 <Ammler> sharing something you own is legal. 15:30:50 <OwenS> You don't own copyrighted stuff :p 15:31:09 <OwenS> And it's illegal under the Berne Convention, which I'm sure you follow :p 15:31:20 <Ammler> why? 15:31:35 <TrueBrain> how can you own a tv serie? 15:31:38 <orudge> speaking of binaries and so on 15:31:43 <OwenS> You own a license to posess it :p 15:31:48 <Ammler> I don't own the serie, but the copy 15:31:49 <orudge> is the US mirror ever going to be linked from the openttd web site? ;) 15:31:57 <Ammler> (DVD) 15:32:05 <TrueBrain> orudge: you only care about the US mirror? 15:32:10 <TrueBrain> the UK, CZ and DE are not important to you? 15:32:15 <orudge> those too :p 15:32:25 <TrueBrain> well, as with everything: when we have the time :) 15:32:32 <OwenS> Ammler: Therefore you don't own the data you're copying. You own a medium on which the data has been placed. 15:32:37 <TrueBrain> most likely at the time we launch translation of our website :) 15:32:53 <orudge> heh 15:33:34 <Ammler> OwenS: maybe you speak about software. 15:33:50 <OwenS> It's the same for all copyrighted material 15:33:55 <Ammler> but anyway, I am fine, if you follow your law, I follow mine :P 15:34:42 *** LaSeandre [~LaSeandre@host86-140-253-237.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:48 <OwenS> In any case... I'm positive it's illegal outside of a few backwards countries with one or more of "People's", "Democratic", "Republic" and/or "Free" in their names 15:35:05 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:16 <LaSeandre> hehe 15:35:41 <OwenS> (Because pretty much all said countries are actually dictatorships :P) 15:36:10 <TrueBrain> OwenS: copyright on software is vastly different from copyright on movies/music 15:36:24 <LaSeandre> and actually have nothing to do with being "People's", "Democratic", "Free" or "Republic". 15:37:04 <OwenS> TrueBrain: Yes, but I'm still certain nowhere is it legal to upload copyrighted material you don't have a license to do so with :p 15:37:32 <TrueBrain> OwenS: I myself don't know such country too, but if Ammler says it is legal in his country, I can do nothing else but beileve him 15:37:38 <TrueBrain> or check the laws in his country on this claim 15:37:48 <TrueBrain> so I suggest you do the latter, or say to Ammler he is right :) 15:37:48 <Ammler> TrueBrain: I didn't say, it's legal 15:38:10 <Ammler> I said, it isn't illegal 15:38:47 <OwenS> Something can't be neither legal or illegal :p 15:38:53 <Ammler> I have no idea, it is just my guess :P 15:39:09 <TrueBrain> Ammler: then you should shut up too :) 15:39:15 <TrueBrain> OwenS: yes, something can be neither legal nor illegal 15:39:28 <TrueBrain> in other words: there is no law preventing it, and no court allowing it 15:40:09 <Ammler> and I am quite sure, there is difference between software and media 15:40:46 <Ammler> (like mp3 and tv shows) 15:41:17 <OwenS> TrueBrain: It's still technically one or the two. Can we just say it's in a schroedinger state, I.E. simultaniously neither until somebody goes to court over it? :p 15:41:54 <OwenS> Though I'd say under most systems something is technically legal until said otherwise 15:42:12 <Ammler> that is mostly the case in our country. 15:42:17 <TrueBrain> OwenS: it technically can be both; this is not quantum physics 15:49:26 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0CE83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:53:59 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 15:55:28 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 15:55:46 <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> okay, I need to solve this graph ... I have 16 points with the distance between each point, I want the fastest route to all those points :p <-- you mean the "travelling salesman problem"? 15:56:14 <TrueBrain> like OwenS said, yes 15:56:15 <TrueBrain> :p 15:57:10 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:57:35 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah... the discussion kinda drowned in the ... other discussion 15:57:56 <TrueBrain> :p 15:58:48 <Eddi|zuHause> it gets even more fun if you can use steiner trees instead of spanning trees ;) 16:00:40 <Eddi|zuHause> b?h... google maps still does not work in konqueror 3.5 16:01:15 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: Perhaps thats because Konq 3.5 is a couple of years old? :P 16:01:22 <TrueBrain> hmm .. bruteforce should give a nice answer I guess .. 16:01:32 <Eddi|zuHause> so? IE6 is way older 16:01:55 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: a friend of mine worked on heuristics for TSP 16:02:29 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: Supporting an obsolete browser is different from supporting an obsolete browser that nobody uses. When a replacement is available. 16:03:47 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: time for KDE4, since 4.3, I don't miss something from 3.5 16:04:02 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 16:04:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i only ever used konqueror 4 to access google maps... 16:04:33 <Ammler> 4.3 release is around a week old 16:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i heard about that 16:04:59 <Eddi|zuHause> let's check the repo... 16:05:04 <Ammler> Factory 16:05:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't use factory... 16:05:40 <Ammler> there is factory KDE for 11.1 16:06:10 <OwenS> I want to know why LLVM's optimizers feel the inability to check the equality of two constants... 16:06:31 <OwenS> Oh sorry lol they don't! =) 16:06:41 <Ammler> if you don't use factory, then you should stay with 3.5, as the official stable for 11.1 is 4.1 and that is ugly. 16:07:07 <OwenS> I was looking at the code for the stuff after the operation :p 16:08:39 <OwenS> It's time to make some more ops intrinsics 16:13:28 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:36 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i have 11.0, i think 16:13:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and i added some kde4 repo for it 16:14:17 <Eddi|zuHause> question: where did i get konversation-1.2alpha2 from? 16:14:18 *** Sacro_ [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it conflicts, and i can't find an upgrade... 16:16:05 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:04 <Eddi|zuHause> so... hoplessly screwing up my system now... 16:26:26 <Belugas> mmhh... roasted almonds 16:26:29 <Belugas> heaven! 16:27:05 <TrueBrain> hmmm ... solving a 17x17 graph kind of kills my CPU :p 16:27:34 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:28:52 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95.89.121.65] has joined #openttd 16:32:13 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host86-128-49-173.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:33:03 *** OwenS is now known as Guest115 16:33:03 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 16:33:23 <TrueBrain> Python for sure can't resolve the question in reasonable amount of time :p 16:33:44 *** Guest115 was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [not needed anymore. SHOOOOO RUNAWAY] 16:34:26 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95.89.121.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:12 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: brute force and python... no, probably not :P 16:36:30 <OwenS> Well... perhaps with Psyco 16:36:50 <TrueBrain> problem is that a C variant won't be easy 16:38:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe88f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:05 *** Sacro_ [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:07 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:41:08 <OwenS> Oh hehe... Some CPP files in my project are compiled to LLVM .bc files; some are compiled to native code :p 16:41:51 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejl117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 16:45:38 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host217-42-231-121.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:45:49 *** OwenS is now known as Guest116 16:45:50 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 16:46:34 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-58-228.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 16:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: i'm sure hundreds of people implemented reasonably fast algorithms for TSP already, why not reuse some of that? 16:47:47 <TrueBrain> mostly because I don't know TSP? 16:48:39 <Eddi|zuHause> shall i redirect you to someone who does? ;) 16:48:57 <TrueBrain> haha :) No need :) Just toying a bit :) 16:49:31 *** Guest116 [~oshepherd@host86-128-49-173.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:14 <TrueBrain> depth-first doesn't allow early cuts.. hehe :) 16:57:37 <TrueBrain> 20 seconds to do 1 depth5 iterration 17:02:13 <TrueBrain> 3:30 for 1 depth4 iterration .. who can do the math? :) 17:03:04 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8b29.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 17:04:13 <TrueBrain> Time to complete: 109 hours 17:04:15 <TrueBrain> LOL! 17:12:21 * OwenS has moved a bunch of the builtin code inside the VM =) 17:12:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i told you, heuristics are the way to go 17:13:18 <TrueBrain> hmm .. why don't I just solve it with A* :p Haha :) Would be too easy :p 17:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong solution... 17:13:58 <TrueBrain> yup 17:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> or rather: solution to a different problem 17:14:13 <TrueBrain> you are absolutely right :) 17:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, i do not have enough balancer tracks... 17:17:02 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8b29.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> each switch needs one balancer track to cancel out the length difference of the straight path and the branching path 17:21:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i have 18 switches and 7 balancer tracks 17:22:04 <Eddi|zuHause> someone do the math? :p 17:22:26 <OwenS> You need 11 more balancer tracks :P 17:23:49 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has left #openttd [] 17:24:16 <Eddi|zuHause> next problem: nobody produces these tracks anymore :p 17:31:01 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:36:16 <glx> even on ebay ? 17:37:19 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 17:38:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17102 /trunk/src/lang/ (polish.txt spanish.txt): 17:45:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 69 changes by Adam123 17:45:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen 17:46:03 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485EF36.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:38 *** MapperOG_ [~Leya@p57B2EF13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:21 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: They're not a standard size? 17:52:36 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:52:42 <Eddi|zuHause> OwenS: it's not about the size 17:52:48 <OwenS> look I suppose :p 17:52:59 <Eddi|zuHause> it's about the track geometry, and the connectors 17:53:05 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F789.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:14 <OwenS> I thought all track of a guage was compatible? 17:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause> every company does these differently 17:53:19 <OwenS> heh 17:58:01 <Eddi|zuHause> they usually sell connector tracks between the different companies, but that makes only sense when you have two large sets of tracks and want to combine them 18:01:52 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... this layout may work... 18:02:27 *** thingwath [~quassel@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 18:05:07 <OwenS> Question: When's a Variant not a variant? Answer: When LLVM thinks it's not -_- 18:05:37 <TrueBrain> :) Hahahaha :) 18:06:30 <OwenS> I have a Variant pointer and a Variant. The difference is significantly more than just a * 18:10:46 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I could also solve my graph problem via a GP 18:10:51 <TrueBrain> that might be of interest :p Haha :) 18:10:54 <TrueBrain> oh, I should get back to WT3.1 :) 18:11:28 <OwenS> Hmm it mainly just seems to be a difference of opinion of how I and LLVM-GCC handle unions 18:13:34 <OwenS> OMG YAY OUR TYPES AGREE! 18:13:47 <TrueBrain> gay 18:13:56 <Alberth> something must be wrong! :p 18:13:59 <TrueBrain> (as in: very happy :p) 18:14:03 <OwenS> lol 18:14:11 <OwenS> I was thinking awkward typo :p 18:14:39 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:41 <OwenS> Hmm... Does GCC pass the address to store outsize return values in as the first or last parameter? 18:20:33 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 18:20:49 <SmatZ> depends on ABI I guess 18:20:57 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 18:21:12 <SmatZ> of course it applies only to structs 18:21:33 <OwenS> First, I just checked LLVM's output 18:22:02 <OwenS> Last wouldn't work in the case of mismatched prototypes, first does 18:22:09 <frosch123> when you use vararg lists, it shoudl be first :) 18:22:20 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:29 <SmatZ> it can be passed in a special, designated place 18:22:50 <SmatZ> like, special register, first parameter on stack, ... 18:24:03 * Rubidium votes for *(NULL) 18:24:41 <OwenS> Mean. GCC has type-pruned my enum when it generates the LLVM output... 18:24:50 *** xmakina [~xmakina@87.112.33.205.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:18 <OwenS> enum -> struct even :p 18:27:05 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:49 <SmatZ> If the type has class MEMORY, then the caller provides space for the return 18:27:50 <SmatZ> value and passes the address of this storage in %rdi as if it were the first 18:27:52 <SmatZ> argument to the function 18:28:05 <SmatZ> OwenS: ^^^ at least for x86_64 linux, it's passed as the first argument ;) 18:28:16 <SmatZ> http://www.x86-64.org/documentation/abi.pdf 18:28:29 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 18:28:30 <OwenS> I think thats pretty much common across all C calling conventions 18:28:52 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 18:38:19 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 18:44:35 <z-MaTRiX> hey there SmatZ ;> 18:45:54 <TrueBrain> OwenS: I don't thin k %rdi exists on all platforms :p :p :p 18:47:30 <OwenS> TrueBrain: I was refering to first arg :P 18:47:35 <TrueBrain> :p :p 18:47:43 <OwenS> LLVM's optimizer is doing quite a bit of the work for me =) 18:47:59 <OwenS> It's diving inside structures and going "Yep, those members are equal" 18:48:19 <petern> hur hur hur 18:48:21 <petern> you said 'member' 18:49:10 <OwenS> I think I need to tell it that as_floatType is constant though 18:49:49 <OwenS> So it can dive inside that and inline through it :p 18:50:56 <OwenS> Question: How do I define something as constant in C and still have it's symbol emitted? :p 18:50:58 <Belugas> petern, you did not know? ith's the new sport around, to see who has the bigger one ^_^ 18:52:05 <TrueBrain> [19:52] <Eddi|zuHause> OwenS: it's not about the size 18:52:51 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. it is not. 18:57:57 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177231096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 19:02:42 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.98.3] has quit [Quit: AFK until Aug 15] 19:03:13 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejl117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:05:41 <SmatZ> hello z-MaTRiX :) 19:09:31 <Belugas> grrrrr... what's the fucking point of doing a certification when the code required to be certified WAS NOT FIXED 19:09:42 <Belugas> Snap snap Snap!!!!! 19:10:11 <TrueBrain> no, not my testicles! 19:10:29 <Belugas> what the hell are they doing in my way ??? 19:10:31 <Belugas> Snap snap Snap!!!!! 19:11:52 *** tdev [~udev@p508EE4A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:00 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:35 <xmakina> TrueBrain: Is it possible to save Paths? I want to store the pathfinder.path result into a seperate structure. Can I do that? 19:14:59 <TrueBrain> why you ask me? I have absolutely no idea :) 19:15:06 <TrueBrain> well, everything is possible, so ... 19:15:42 <xmakina> i asked you because your name is at the top of the main.nut :S 19:15:58 <TrueBrain> well, for start, glad you say it is about AIs 19:16:08 <TrueBrain> I was more thinking about OpenTTD 19:16:17 <TrueBrain> second, please ask your question on the forums, I am sure someone can help you out there 19:16:24 <xmakina> will do 19:16:32 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:50 <TrueBrain> (I haven't done any mainstream development for ages, so I really have no idea, can't even remember how it looks like :p) 19:17:23 <xmakina> lol - well the very top of the main.nut file reads: /* $Id: main.nut 15101 2009-01-16 00:05:26Z truebrain $ */ 19:17:40 <frosch123> so, you mean the noai library pathfinder :) 19:17:41 <TrueBrain> ah, means I was the las tperson who commited to that file .. doesn't really mean anything :) 19:17:44 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 19:17:49 <xmakina> ahh 19:17:50 <TrueBrain> here, this person is the one you might want to ask :p 19:17:51 <Yexo> good evening 19:17:53 <xmakina> :D 19:18:01 <Yexo> thanks for the fixes to bananas TrueBrain :) 19:18:03 <xmakina> hi yexo - just the man i was looking for 19:18:05 <TrueBrain> Yexo: np! 19:18:23 <TrueBrain> Yexo: about the COPY problem: lighttpd picks up the COPY instead of proxying him to the WebDAV of Apache 19:18:35 <TrueBrain> no idea yet how I am going to fix that ... crazy ass lighttpd doing something he shouldn't be doing ... 19:18:42 <TrueBrain> (even more weird it returns 200 on it ...) 19:18:55 <Yexo> is there any workaround? Rubidium mentioned that a local commit worked fine 19:18:56 <xmakina> yexo: I was wondering if I can save Pathfinder paths into another structure. I'd like to store them in an information class along with other useful bits of information regarding the path. 19:19:18 <TrueBrain> Yexo: for you, not really. Rubidium accessed the internal VPS and did the commit via SVN direct (over file://) 19:19:21 <TrueBrain> but this is not general available 19:19:56 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: AS A VAGINA ONCE SAID: <yorick> SOMEONE BAN HIM] 19:20:47 <Yexo> xmakina: I think the easiest way is to include the aystar library in your AI, then change the class AyStar.Path to whatever you want 19:21:35 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, these tracks need serious cleaning done... 19:22:16 <Yexo> another option would be to extend the AyStar.Path class after loading the AyStar library, no idea if that would work 19:22:34 <xmakina> hmmm 19:25:17 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest125 19:25:20 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.192.103] has joined #openttd 19:28:43 *** Guest125 [~KenjiE20@92.3.14.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 19:31:15 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:50 *** The_Fun_Warden [~chatzilla@cpc3-macc1-0-0-cust98.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:13 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, we DESERVE some shots of it, once finished. Or even a free visit! 19:36:20 <The_Fun_Warden> hi everyone i was wondering if someone could help me, i've just upgraded my version of the PPCTTD and was wondering how you access the cheats 19:36:28 <petern> # FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADE 19:36:31 <petern> # OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 19:36:34 <petern> # AGAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN 19:37:19 <glx> The_Fun_Warden: ctrl-alt-C (ie ask the author of this version as we don't support it) 19:37:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: it isn't really that much of a deal... 19:37:48 <The_Fun_Warden> it's the pocket pc version 19:38:01 <Belugas> you make it sound as if it was ^_^ 19:38:02 <glx> yes and we don't support it 19:39:58 <The_Fun_Warden> just thought i'd ask here just incase 19:40:08 <The_Fun_Warden> someone knew 19:41:19 <Belugas> good thinking 19:41:30 <Belugas> just... 19:41:38 <Belugas> well.. maybe one day... who knows 19:41:49 <Belugas> but not THAT version 19:44:04 <The_Fun_Warden> whats the different between the PPC and Windows version surely they are virtually the same 19:44:49 <Yexo> yes, but the PPC version is not created by an of the openttd devs, and because we don't create it we don't give support on it 19:45:05 <petern> so fucking special 19:45:09 <glx> and they are not the same 19:46:12 <The_Fun_Warden> my mistake then 19:47:08 <Yexo> TrueBrain: I've just created another project @noai.openttd.org, now how did the repository creation work again? Do I need to click "Create" under the Repository tab uder Settings, or will it be automatically created? 19:48:20 <The_Fun_Warden> before i look on the forum, can you new pictures for the company owners, i'm sick of the same old faces 19:48:36 <Yexo> you can create a newgrf for that 19:48:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17103 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (9 files): -Update: pretranslate a bunch of strings that can't be translated 19:48:53 <Yexo> opengfx has at least some new faces, but I'm not sure if they're complete already 19:49:36 <Rubidium> about half of OpenGFX's faces is done 19:50:05 * Belugas imagines a face without a nose 19:52:00 <TrueBrain> Yexo: :17 repos are created 19:52:27 <Yexo> thanks 19:52:38 <TrueBrain> so you will have to wait 25 more minutes for it 19:52:47 <TrueBrain> I know, stupid, but RedMine doesn't support anything else :( 19:52:51 <Yexo> I'm creating a bunch of projects now :) 19:53:10 *** The_Fun_Warden [~chatzilla@cpc3-macc1-0-0-cust98.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.12/2009070611]] 19:56:25 <TrueBrain> Yexo: don't forget to put the SVN address somewhere :) RedMine doesn't show it by default 19:56:50 <Yexo> ok, but I can onl do that after :17 :) 19:57:00 <TrueBrain> you already know the address it will get ;) 19:57:01 <TrueBrain> but yes :) 19:57:41 *** DPyro [~darkpyro@pool-173-74-156-12.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 20:01:22 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has joined #openttd 20:07:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: well, the main problem is getting along with the limited set of tracks i have... 20:13:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it's only going to be a temporary setup anyway... 20:20:57 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17104 /trunk/src/ (subsidy.cpp subsidy_base.h): -Codechange: move code related to subsidy awarding to separate procedure 20:24:57 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0355d.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: saufen \o/] 20:30:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17105 /trunk/src/station.cpp: -Codechange: no need to reset list of industries nearby that often, clearing is enough 20:34:31 <Yexo> TrueBrain: "<m:human-readable errcode="2"> 20:34:31 <Yexo> Could not open the requested SVN filesystem 20:34:31 <Yexo> </m:human-readable>" <- the svn repos are not generated yet 20:35:13 <TrueBrain> connection refused 20:35:14 <TrueBrain> how nasty 20:36:18 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:36:23 <TrueBrain> there you go 20:36:35 <TrueBrain> sticky bit failed .. bah 20:36:43 <TrueBrain> stupid script 20:36:50 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:37:23 <Belugas> yurk... sticky bit... watch where you drop your bit, man! 20:37:32 *** Baffage [~potetfar@160.80-202-187.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:37:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:40:24 <TrueBrain> nginx configuration is a bitch 20:44:59 <TrueBrain> Yexo: can you let me know when you need to do a copy again? 20:45:08 <TrueBrain> (rather sooner than later :p) 20:45:17 <TrueBrain> I have an alternative URL for you to try, which hopefully does allow the forwarding of COPY :p 20:45:35 <Yexo> ok, give me a few minutes 20:49:36 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8b29.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 20:51:37 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:54 <TrueBrain> FUCKING RETARTED FIREFOX! It complains to me about an invalid certificate .. and I can't tell him ANYWHERE to go ahead anyway :( 20:53:15 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: 3.5? 20:53:18 <TrueBrain> nope 20:53:20 <TrueBrain> 3.something 20:53:32 <TrueBrain> I get a popup about sec_error_unknown_issuer 20:53:34 <TrueBrain> and that is all 20:54:03 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:55:02 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has joined #openttd 20:55:15 <frosch123> obviously "3.something" != "3.5" :) 20:55:23 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has left #openttd [] 20:55:29 <TrueBrain> retarted nginx .. it seems that I have to tell for both http and https where to proxy requests .. 20:55:33 <TrueBrain> I don't want that .. I want to do it at once! 20:55:38 <TrueBrain> at once = in one time 20:55:40 <TrueBrain> what ever 20:55:55 <Rubidium> proxy all https to the http? 20:56:00 <TrueBrain> haha 20:56:20 <Yexo> TrueBrain: I'm ready to try a copy again 20:56:30 <TrueBrain> Yexo: okay, please try it on the url with port :84 20:56:34 <TrueBrain> (the rest stays the same) 20:58:10 <TrueBrain> COPY returned a 502 .. 20:58:12 <Yexo> svn: Server sent unexpected return value (502 Bad Gateway) in response to COPY r <- this time 20:59:17 <TrueBrain> okay, it seems to be a problem at the WebDAV backend after all 20:59:54 <TrueBrain> but I can't find anything back about it in the access.log or error.log 21:01:44 <TrueBrain> the proxy tells me the connection was closed, and apache tells me nothing was going on 21:03:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:03:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:06 <TrueBrain> hahahaha :) Oh, this problem is nasty :) the COPY command has 2 URLs in them 21:05:11 <TrueBrain> because we proxy, one of the two is rewritten 21:05:20 <TrueBrain> Apache validates if both are equal, else it disallows it 21:06:20 <Belugas> i don't want to be here 21:06:27 <Belugas> i should not be here 21:06:29 <TrueBrain> you don't like us? :( 21:06:56 <Belugas> here, is TOTALLY related to this fucking chair/desk i'm glued to 21:07:02 <TrueBrain> :p 21:07:05 * TrueBrain gives Belugas a hug 21:07:07 <TrueBrain> I am hungry 21:07:13 <Belugas> you know i love you, sweety 21:07:26 <Belugas> can't get awaay from your virtual arms 21:07:39 <Belugas> by the way, have you cleaned your sticky bit? 21:07:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:14 <TrueBrain> lol 21:08:15 <TrueBrain> no :p 21:09:20 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I will think a moment about a solution .. now first a bit of food :) Bbl! 21:09:32 <Yexo> no hurry :) 21:12:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17106 /trunk/src/ (station.cpp station_base.h): -Codechange: move computation of station's catchment rectagle to separate function 21:16:47 <TrueBrain> Yexo: can you try now? 21:17:23 <Yexo> port 84 again? 21:17:29 <TrueBrain> yup 21:17:48 <Yexo> still 502 21:18:23 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8b29.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:05 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46E88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:25 *** LaSeandre [~LaSeandre@host86-140-253-237.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 21:32:08 <TrueBrain> bah, tcpdump can't see the internal traffic ... 21:38:53 <TrueBrain> Yexo: mind hitting it again? 21:39:10 <Yexo> still 502 (on port 84) 21:39:34 <TrueBrain> now it is just annoying me 21:39:42 <Yexo> svn copy --username Yexo http://noai.openttd.org:84/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/trunk/ http://noai.openttd.org:84/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/tags/1 -m "-Release: 1" <- I hope that's the correct command 21:40:19 <TrueBrain> lol, as soon as you printed those links 21:40:24 <TrueBrain> things started to hit the server looking at them 21:40:26 <TrueBrain> how nice :p 21:40:42 <Alberth> :) 21:40:52 <TrueBrain> irssi mostly 21:41:03 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I assume it is, yes 21:41:48 <TrueBrain> hit it again Yexo :p 21:42:05 <Yexo> again 502 21:42:05 <TrueBrain> darn .. 21:42:27 <TrueBrain> it sucks that apache doesn't tell me why it drops 21:42:40 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: shows you how many people click on random links in a chat :p 21:42:51 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: this was not clicking 21:43:39 <TrueBrain> Yexo: and now? (what will be insane if it would work) 21:43:47 <Yexo> again 502 21:45:03 <TrueBrain> Yexo: again? 21:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: url catchers looking at headlines and somesuch? 21:45:18 <Yexo> TrueBrain: yes, again 21:45:20 <TrueBrain> darn, had tcpdump configured wrong 21:45:53 <TrueBrain> okay, got the headers now .. 21:46:05 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:46:32 <TrueBrain> what the proxy receives all looks very sane 21:47:26 <TrueBrain> Yexo: tick 21:47:36 <Yexo> 502 21:47:43 <TrueBrain> I can see the results ;) 21:47:51 <Yexo> ok :) 21:47:59 <TrueBrain> Yexo: tick 21:48:16 <Alberth> good night TrueBrain 21:48:20 <TrueBrain> ARGH FUCKING SHITTING STUPID .... 21:48:21 <TrueBrain> night Alberth 21:48:34 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:48:47 <TrueBrain> I hate Apache, I hate Apache, I hate Apache, I hate Apache 21:48:50 <OwenS> Time to factorise out my runtime cast code... 21:49:27 *** xmakina [~xmakina@87.112.33.205.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:37 *** xmakina [~xmakina@87.114.151.3.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:36 *** Brianett1 [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:39 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46E88.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:08 *** Brianett1 [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [] 21:52:41 <_ln> http://www.assemblytv.org/ 21:54:37 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejl117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:28 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I am afraid to ask .. but hit it again? 21:55:39 <TrueBrain> $@#$#%#@$ 21:55:46 <Yexo> just ask as many times as it's needed 21:55:49 <Yexo> no problem at all 21:56:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe88f.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:09 <TrueBrain> possible the problem is the different port I guess ... 21:57:22 <SmatZ> _ln: should I see anything there? 21:57:36 <_ln> SmatZ: you should 21:57:44 <SmatZ> hmm I don't :-/ 21:57:44 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:52 <_ln> pity :/ 21:58:10 <Belugas> #Hit me with yur best shot! 21:58:44 * SmatZ shoots Belugas 21:58:50 <SmatZ> oh no, what have I done! 21:58:58 <Belugas> argggggghh 21:59:05 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has left #openttd [] 21:59:11 <SmatZ> oh noes :( 21:59:25 <Eddi|zuHause> You Bastard! 21:59:31 <SmatZ> :'-( 21:59:33 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 21:59:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 21:59:36 <SmatZ> I'm so sorry 21:59:48 <TrueBrain> you should 21:59:50 <Belugas> FEAR THE MIGHTY ZOMBIE! 21:59:57 * SmatZ runs 22:00:48 <Nite_Owl> would you like to buy some brains ? 22:01:07 <SmatZ> :-D 22:01:13 <Belugas> no need, just have to lay over TB 22:01:26 * TrueBrain gives a piece of brain to Belugas 22:02:03 <Belugas> SNAP SNAP SNAP!!!! 22:02:19 <TrueBrain> hihi :) 22:02:41 <Belugas> and now, LadyHawk and gentlemen... 22:02:47 <Belugas> it's time for me... 22:02:56 <Belugas> to announce you... 22:03:13 <TrueBrain> Yexo: 22:03:13 <Belugas> that i'll be in vacattions for 2 weeks, starting 22:03:17 <Belugas> NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW 22:03:20 <Belugas> YOUHO!!!!!! 22:03:22 <TrueBrain> Belugas: ENJOY!!!! 22:03:25 <SmatZ> wow 22:03:25 <Nite_Owl> SYNAPSE SYNAPSE SYNAPSE !!!! 22:03:26 <TrueBrain> we will miss you I guss :) 22:03:29 <Belugas> have fun :D 22:03:43 <Belugas> i'llbe lurking around, don't worry 22:03:46 <SmatZ> enjoy as much as you can :) 22:03:47 <Nite_Owl> Enjoy Belugas 22:03:50 <Belugas> bye guys 22:04:06 <TrueBrain> Yexo: 22:04:11 <SmatZ> have nice holidays, Belugas :) 22:04:15 <TrueBrain> dammit 22:04:43 <Yexo> enjoy our holidays Belugas 22:04:54 <Yexo> s/our/your/ stupid keyboard 22:05:38 <SmatZ> hehe 22:05:48 <TrueBrain> completely different fix .. Yexo?:) 22:06:03 <Yexo> different error this time 22:06:12 <TrueBrain> I never saw a COPY :p 22:06:22 <TrueBrain> what error? :) 22:06:34 <Yexo> svn: COPY of '/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/!svn/bc/2/trunk': Could not read status lin 22:06:34 <Yexo> e: connection was closed by server (http://noai.openttd.org:84) 22:07:32 <TrueBrain> I should learn how to write destination :p Yexo? :) 22:07:45 <TrueBrain> I now never see a COPY :( 22:07:45 <Yexo> again, same error 22:08:14 <TrueBrain> now the old error again I hope? 22:08:25 <Yexo> yep, 502 again 22:10:03 <TrueBrain> Yexo: 22:10:41 <TrueBrain> even in debug Apache doesn't tell about the COPY 22:12:23 <TrueBrain> Yexo: 22:12:42 <Yexo> "could not read status line" again 22:14:41 <TrueBrain> Yexo: can you try over https please? 22:14:49 <Yexo> port 84? 22:14:52 <TrueBrain> poort 446 22:15:29 <Yexo> svn: COPY of '/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/!svn/bc/2/trunk': Could not read status lin 22:15:29 <Yexo> e: Secure connection truncated (https://noai.openttd.org:446) 22:16:42 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:16:48 *** Xaroth_ is now known as Xaroth 22:17:26 <TrueBrain> and maybe this? 22:17:39 <Yexo> 502 error (over https) 22:17:40 <TrueBrain> back to the 502 ... 22:18:12 <TrueBrain> and http now? 22:18:58 <TrueBrain> sigh ... 22:20:24 <TrueBrain> k, one more time 22:20:27 <TrueBrain> (Http, port 84) 22:20:38 <TrueBrain> retarded stuff 22:20:47 <TrueBrain> I really need to see what Apache receives if I want to continue this .. 22:20:53 <TrueBrain> this is useless .. running blind :s 22:21:00 <Yexo> is there any way I can help with that? 22:21:23 <TrueBrain> not really 22:21:27 <TrueBrain> I can see what you send 22:21:30 <TrueBrain> but I can't see what the proxy sends 22:23:36 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76480.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:23:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17107 /trunk/src/ (13 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: store type of subsidy source and destination in the Subsidy struct instead of determining it every time it's needed 22:24:50 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe i should use a less dark theme for kde4 22:27:04 <TrueBrain> whoho, I have tcpdump working 22:27:07 <TrueBrain> data is on lo ... 22:27:12 <TrueBrain> Yexo: hit it :) 22:28:33 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76480.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:36 <TrueBrain> the only thing 'wrong' I can find, is that it is a http/1.0 request, the proxy sends 22:28:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76480.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:55 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 22:30:46 <TrueBrain> Yexo: one more time :) 22:31:26 <TrueBrain> yup, only difference left is http/1.0 instead of http/1.1 ... 22:31:35 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76480.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:32:00 <OwenS> Isn't SVN done over WebDav? 22:32:19 <OwenS> WebDav didn't exist in HTTP/1.1 - apache being paranoid? 22:32:31 <OwenS> 1.0** 22:33:55 <TrueBrain> Yexo: 22:34:10 <Yexo> svn: REPORT of '/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/!svn/bc/0': Unknown transfer-coding in re 22:34:10 <Yexo> sponse (http://noai.openttd.org:84) 22:34:38 <TrueBrain> so modifying nginx to send http/1.1 instead of http/1.0 doesn't work like that :p 22:36:51 <OwenS> Whew! After a lot of effort I have implemented implicit typecasts between tagless variables (Tagless means that they're not in a Variant because the compiler knows their type) 22:37:16 <TrueBrain> Yexo: try it now 22:37:18 <TrueBrain> ? 22:37:27 <Yexo> tranfer-encoding again 22:37:45 <Yexo> still using port 84 over http 22:38:38 <TrueBrain> and now? 22:38:58 <Yexo> can you see those errors? 22:39:03 <Yexo> it's still the same 22:39:36 <TrueBrain> hmm ... very weird. .. 22:40:01 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 22:40:48 *** thingwath [~quassel@88.83.164.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:43 <TrueBrain> okay, it turned out my tries at the beginning of this day were wrong because nginx configuration sucks 22:41:48 <TrueBrain> it never did anything with the configuration :( 22:42:45 <TrueBrain> Yexo: try it again please :) 22:42:54 <TrueBrain> weird 22:45:41 <TrueBrain> is there a way to avoid chunked transfer-codings 22:47:13 <TrueBrain> how does it like it now Yexo? :) 22:47:33 <Yexo> not at all 22:48:15 <TrueBrain> seems http/1.1 always comes chunked 22:48:56 <TrueBrain> back to 1.0 ... last try for the night? 22:49:09 <TrueBrain> I give up 22:49:21 <Yexo> cd .. 22:49:24 *** xander1987 [~xmakina@87.114.151.3.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 22:50:13 <TrueBrain> stupid how httpds can fail on something so simple 22:50:30 <OwenS> TrueBrain: I'd help, but I don't have a clue about nginx http proxying. FastCGI yes, http no... 22:51:32 <TrueBrain> I don't know who is to blame .. nginx for doing 1.0, or Apache for failing on it 22:52:55 <TrueBrain> hmm 22:52:58 <TrueBrain> one other idea ... 22:53:01 <OwenS> https://secure.bonkabonka.com/blog/2008/01/04/nginx_fronting_for_subversion.html <- This guy seems to indicate it should be simple... 22:53:49 <Rubidium> OwenS: Happily it was a one-line fix, but discovering that correct line ... that was obnoxious. <- I guess that's TB's feeling too 22:54:09 <TrueBrain> sadly enough, he doesn't say what the line is 22:54:28 <TrueBrain> or he thinks the https / http is the problem too .. 22:55:04 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: I guess the RequestHeader edit Destination ^https http early 22:55:20 <TrueBrain> yup 22:55:26 <TrueBrain> Yexo: so he says it should work like this now 22:55:55 <Yexo> well, it clearly doesn't work 22:56:05 <TrueBrain> mostly because we don't use https :p 22:56:25 *** xmakina [~xmakina@87.114.151.3.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:51 <OwenS> It going across as HTTP/1.1? 22:56:56 <TrueBrain> nope 22:56:59 <TrueBrain> nginx is http/1.0 proxy 22:57:10 <OwenS> So it can't generate 1.1 queries? =( 22:58:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 22:59:24 <TrueBrain> a few more thingies on that page .. Yexo? 23:00:02 <TrueBrain> it all just looks fine 23:00:10 <TrueBrain> the only difference I can see, is the HTTP/1.1 :( 23:00:15 *** Svish [~Svish@84.20.108.24] has joined #openttd 23:00:25 <TrueBrain> so how can others make it to work? 23:00:34 <TrueBrain> lets see what happens when he tries it directly on the apache 23:03:23 <TrueBrain> Yexo: try it now 23:03:37 <TrueBrain> this time, I can't see the result :p 23:03:38 <Yexo> 500 internal server error 23:03:50 <Yexo> svn: Server sent unexpected return value (500 Internal Server Error) in response 23:03:50 <Yexo> to OPTIONS request for 'http://noai.openttd.org:84/svn/lib-fibonacciheap' 23:04:21 *** Svish [~Svish@84.20.108.24] has quit [] 23:04:34 <TrueBrain> mysql access error :p 23:04:55 <Yexo> (the noai site is down currently) 23:05:00 <TrueBrain> yup 23:05:04 <TrueBrain> had to redirect it :) 23:05:49 <OwenS> Why 84? 23:06:22 <TrueBrain> why not? 23:07:38 <OwenS> Why not 80? :p 23:07:52 <TrueBrain> OwenS: I don't have time for obvious questions, sorry 23:08:00 <Rubidium> OwenS: because that's like... already in fracking use? 23:08:02 <TrueBrain> hmm .. mysql priveleges .. how does that work 23:08:13 <OwenS> Rubidium: I suppose you have a very valid point :p 23:10:04 <TrueBrain> Yexo: hit it 23:10:19 <Yexo> svn: COPY of '/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/!svn/bc/2/trunk': Could not read status lin 23:10:19 <Yexo> e: connection was closed by server (http://noai.openttd.org:84) 23:10:31 <TrueBrain> LOL! So Apache WebDAV is FUCKED UP 23:11:15 <TrueBrain> and now? 23:11:20 <OwenS> Checking for the obvious error: DAV svn is enabled? :p 23:11:22 *** thingwath [~quassel@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 23:11:25 <Yexo> same error 23:11:41 <TrueBrain> retarded fucking bitching Apache 23:11:51 <TrueBrain> here I am fighting all night with the proxy, while YOU ARE TO BLAME 23:12:20 <TrueBrain> of course NOTHING about the request 23:13:37 <Yexo> now "svn log" doesn't work anymore 23:13:53 <TrueBrain> here it does 23:15:00 <TrueBrain> Yexo: and if you use host: 85.17.162.188:84 23:15:02 <TrueBrain> does that work? 23:16:23 <Yexo> same error (connection closed by server) 23:17:11 <TrueBrain> now I wonder if it is a problem of the port ... 23:19:44 <TrueBrain> Yexo: http://85.17.162.187/ as url, does that work? 23:19:56 <TrueBrain> (so port 80) 23:20:43 <Yexo> same error 23:20:56 <TrueBrain> what a piece of crap 23:20:58 <TrueBrain> anyone any idea? 23:22:09 <OwenS> Put the conf file somewhere? :p 23:22:40 <TrueBrain> <Location /svn> 23:22:41 <TrueBrain> DAV svn 23:22:43 <TrueBrain> SVNParentPath "/var/repos/svn" 23:22:44 <TrueBrain> there you go 23:23:22 <OwenS> ... Which should work... 23:23:27 <TrueBrain> REALLY?! 23:23:28 <TrueBrain> wow ...... 23:27:08 <OwenS> Yexo: Have you tried "svn relocating" your repo before doing the copy? 23:27:19 <TrueBrain> copy is not related to a WC 23:27:22 <OwenS> (To make sure it's pointing at the right URL) 23:27:29 <Yexo> OwenS: that's not relavant, since it's a server -> server copy 23:27:41 <OwenS> Aah 23:29:02 <OwenS> Every article on the error seems to be related to people with sigsegving httpds... 23:29:18 <TrueBrain> k, rolled back everything, noai should now be again normally reachable 23:29:32 <TrueBrain> Yexo: what I will be doing tomorrow, is replacing apache2 with nginx, as it seems to have DAV support too 23:29:38 <TrueBrain> maybe, just maybe, it does know how to handle COPY 23:29:59 <OwenS> SVN requires special DAV features which the SVN developers have only implemented for Apache2 23:30:06 <Yexo> just ping me again when you need me to try anything 23:30:10 <TrueBrain> Yexo: will do 23:30:58 <TrueBrain> also, I will setup an apache locally, see if it does the same .. 23:31:02 <TrueBrain> as this is just plain WEIRD! 23:31:15 <TrueBrain> then again .. maybe it will never work 23:31:21 <TrueBrain> Yexo: if you make a copy inside a WC, does tha twork? 23:31:27 <Yexo> nope 23:31:35 <Yexo> same errors (the few times I tried it) 23:31:44 <TrueBrain> did you try it over :84? 23:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the task bar in kde4 still seems to lack a lot of settings... 23:31:54 <Yexo> TrueBrain: I don't think so 23:32:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C55A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76480.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B758CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:15 <Yexo> TrueBrain: copy within wc: 23:34:17 <Yexo> svn: Commit failed (details follow): 23:34:17 <Yexo> svn: Server sent unexpected return value (502 Bad Gateway) in response to COPY r 23:34:17 <Yexo> equest for '/svn/lib-fibonacciheap/!svn/bc/1/trunk' 23:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause> and there it crashed... 23:35:33 *** xander1987 [~xmakina@87.114.151.3.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:36:03 <TrueBrain> too bad 23:36:06 *** Baffage [~potetfar@160.80-202-187.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 23:41:20 <TrueBrain> how lovely ... lighttpd fucks up the proxy request :( 23:41:30 <TrueBrain> [07/Aug/2009:23:40:45 +0000] " " 400 0 "-" "-" 23:41:34 <TrueBrain> double spaces page? 23:41:48 <TrueBrain> GET / HTTP/1.0 23:41:50 <TrueBrain> is the request 23:42:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and it crashed again... 23:42:03 <Eddi|zuHause> what is this shit? 23:42:43 <OwenS> TrueBrain: Wait... you have/had apache behind nginx behind lighty? 23:42:49 <TrueBrain> no 23:43:02 <OwenS> Good because that would be silly :p 23:43:02 <Yexo> TrueBrain: good luck if you're going to do more testing, but I'm going to sleep 23:43:04 <Yexo> gn all 23:43:07 <TrueBrain> night Yexo 23:43:08 <TrueBrain> and tnx 23:44:28 <TrueBrain> okay, the problem is the forward fields 23:44:32 <TrueBrain> ::ffff: seems to be the problem 23:44:36 <Eddi|zuHause> how can people use the kde4 panel when you can't set it up properly and it crashes all the time? 23:45:28 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: I've never had the 4.2 panel crash on me 23:46:35 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051008027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:46:36 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it did twice within a few minutes here 23:46:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and now all programs from the task bar have gone into oblivion 23:46:55 <Eddi|zuHause> how can i get them back? 23:47:08 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: with >=4.2? 23:47:12 <OwenS> You have a Task Manager plasmoid? 23:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause> if that's what it is called 23:47:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: 4.3, i believe 23:47:54 <OwenS> Then they should be listed =/ 23:48:08 <Ammler> the only issue I had yet is with FF 23:48:39 <Ammler> something there reaches to crash the whole KDE and needs restart of X 23:48:54 <Ammler> happens around once per week. 23:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: might be related to a wine application registering to the task bar 23:49:22 <Eddi|zuHause> but the weird thing is, it seems to work, and then crash a while later 23:49:38 <Eddi|zuHause> now, how do i get all the icons back? 23:49:57 <OwenS> Which icons? 23:50:02 <Eddi|zuHause> like amarok, kinternet, kpowersave 23:50:08 <Ammler> well, "safest" might be to restart KDE 23:50:09 *** tdev [~udev@p508EE4A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 23:50:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that would be rediculous 23:50:34 <Eddi|zuHause> that means going back to kde3.5, be promised 23:50:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm furious right now... 23:51:52 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:51:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm going to rant in freenode/#kde... 23:51:58 <Ammler> well, I asked at #opensuse before I upgraded to 4.3, nobody mentioned problems. 23:52:13 <Ammler> and I am really happy until now. 23:52:24 <OwenS> Hmm 23:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not... 23:52:33 <OwenS> Does 4.3 use ~/.kde to store settings? 23:52:47 <Eddi|zuHause> no, ~/.kde4 23:52:49 <TrueBrain> good luck joining freenode 23:52:49 <OwenS> And if so.. Is it possible it's loading the KDE 3.5 settings and getting majorly confused? 23:52:52 <TrueBrain> make sure to put on your helmet! 23:52:54 <OwenS> KDE4 on my system uses ~/.kde 23:53:20 <Eddi|zuHause> it's set up so you can have both in parallel 23:53:25 <Ammler> OwenS: then you don't have 3.5 anymore? 23:53:39 <OwenS> Ammler: KUbuntu hasn't shipped 3 for a couple of versions now :p 23:53:51 <Ammler> :-o 23:53:58 <OwenS> I think they went entirely 4 with 8.10 23:54:13 <Ammler> but then somethin glike 4.1 or such? 23:54:16 <Eddi|zuHause> silly distribution... 23:54:20 <Ammler> that was plain crap 23:54:47 <OwenS> 4.1 worked well mostly - and they shipped lots of KDE3 apps along side in a side by side config to fill in gaps 23:55:44 <OwenS> Yeah; 8.10 shipped 4.1.2 23:55:51 <Ammler> maybe it was 4.0... 23:56:13 <OwenS> 4.1 acheived stability and most features; 4.2 acheived 3.5 feature parity 23:56:19 <Ammler> I went back to 3.5 quite fast and waited until 4.2 23:57:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p54B83F80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:15 <Eddi|zuHause> "feature parity" is still not reached, apparently 23:57:18 <Ammler> 4.2 doesn't have e.g. konversation 23:57:28 <Ammler> (4.3 does) 23:57:30 <OwenS> Ammler: Feature parity in KDEBase 23:57:39 <Ammler> ah ok 23:59:28 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p54B8044D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd