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Can anyone explain to me, what is regearing for? 08:54:32 <Noldo> regearing? 08:54:56 <kpobococ> yeah, as seen in the NARS NewGRF 08:55:26 <kpobococ> I didn't find the info on their wiki anywhere 08:55:41 <kpobococ> or in Google 08:57:14 <Rubidium> making trains faster but less powerful, i.e. either run fast or pull much 08:58:36 <kpobococ> ok, that adds several refit options, but why do trains accept regearing as cargo (making the full load all option ineffective)? 08:58:36 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 08:59:02 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 08:59:10 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:07:17 <Rubidium> try full load any 09:18:54 <kpobococ> yeah,, full load any works. But I like creating a train with both grain and livestock. Full load any doesn't work there as I want it to :) 09:21:48 *** Guest2266 [~3ef457ab@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 09:22:09 <Guest2266> g'day 09:26:41 *** Guest2266 [~3ef457ab@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [Quit: TheGrebs.com CGI:IRC (Error)] 09:29:11 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:35:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:43:15 <kpobococ> ok, so, nobody knows how to make regearing work with full load all? 09:48:26 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:58:18 *** kpobococ [~kpobococ@start98.alfa-inet.net] has quit [] 10:00:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:27:43 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd1a5.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 10:31:57 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:44:41 *** snorre [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 11:31:13 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 11:53:41 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 11:55:11 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18113 /trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp: -Fix: RTL glitch in play heightmap window 12:04:15 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:10 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:5ce3:52db:1:55a8:895b:31f3:96d4] has joined #openttd 12:05:20 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:12:11 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.195.97] has joined #openttd 12:30:04 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18114 /trunk/src/osk_gui.cpp: -Fix: RTL languages don't have the keyboard swapped 12:30:31 <petern> hehe 12:31:19 <Noldo> wat? 12:34:40 <Eddi|zuHause> haha :) 12:35:40 <fonsinchen> Uh shit, what kind of mess did I create in my git repository yesterday night??? 12:35:48 <Rubidium> hmm... would it even account as a fix as the code that makes the RTL stuff happen isn't in trunk yet? 12:36:23 <Noldo> prefix 12:38:36 <Noldo> fonsinchen: big? 12:38:52 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c998:f577:e529:d908] has joined #openttd 12:38:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:40:07 <petern> Rubidium, it's not? 12:40:08 <fonsinchen> I don't know. FS#3317 is obviously bogus. But I know I got that idea from a backtrace, so I must have an ancient window.cpp somewhere. Also the smallmap crashes on opening, even though I spent hours debugging it yesterday ... 12:40:24 <petern> is it just text that's RTL'd at the moment? 12:40:48 <Rubidium> petern: yes, but the windows will get swapped eventually 12:42:15 <petern> hmm, the old 'you can scroll on the widget before the scrollbar' hack's gone 12:45:48 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Treham%20Transport,%2022nd%20Apr%202410%231.png <- shows that there's definitely some work to do, but that lots of stuff also works kinda right 12:47:16 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DE2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:57 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:09 <petern> heh 12:51:01 *** nonsensical [~ars@209-210-207-246.dslnorthwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:30 *** nonsensical [~ars@209-210-207-246.dslnorthwest.net] has joined #openttd 12:54:22 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 12:55:08 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:00:02 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:03:21 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA014.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:06:41 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B490.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:51 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18115 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt vehicle_gui.cpp): -Codechange: prevent RTL glitch with refitting and cargo suffix 13:23:16 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:23:58 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest2295 13:24:00 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:28:16 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 13:31:31 *** Guest2295 [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:43:17 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:46:27 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 13:50:37 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:23 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 14:06:01 <Xaroth> Rubidium: 2410? 14:06:08 <Xaroth> you test too much :P 14:14:49 <petern> 2410? 14:14:56 <petern> oh, the yeah 14:19:18 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:07 <Rubidium> petern: 2410? 14:20:30 <petern> er, the year... in your screenshot 14:21:15 <Rubidium> ah yes, savegames with lots of activity are useful for quite a number of tests 14:27:53 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@190.50.31.84] has joined #openttd 14:37:01 <Belugas> hello 14:37:04 <Belugas> hello 14:37:30 <Goulp> ehlo 14:38:04 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:39:15 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:39:29 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [] 14:45:14 <petern> bah, xp vm ... ntldr missing :S 14:47:51 <Sacro> i hate that 14:48:35 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18116 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Change: make the station list support RTL when drawing the ratings 14:58:19 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 15:00:54 *** thingwath [~thingwath@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:12:06 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18117 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_gui.cpp build_vehicle_gui.cpp): -Codechange: don't pass the location of the vehicle count but whether to show the vehicle count 15:20:46 *** Benny [~Benny@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 15:24:50 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:32:25 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest2307 15:32:27 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:34:19 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:35:02 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@ip4da2ce4e.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 15:35:46 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:39 *** Guest2307 [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:40 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:29 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:41:41 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest2309 15:41:42 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:45:36 *** Benny [~Benny@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has left #openttd [] 15:48:34 *** Guest2309 [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:46 *** nicfer2 [~Usuario@190.50.25.50] has joined #openttd 16:09:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@ip4da2ce4e.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:10 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@190.50.31.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:36 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:36 *** Johnmit` [~John@93-97-107-116.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:19:39 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:20:04 *** TheExile [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:22:26 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18118 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_gui.cpp build_vehicle_gui.cpp): -Codechange: improve behaviour of the engine lists (both build vehicle/autoreplace) w.r.t. large(r) fonts and RTL. RTL support for 'wider than usual' vehicles is still needed though. 16:25:20 <petern> hmm, some matrices only show correct stuff after the window's resized 16:25:21 *** nicfer2 [~Usuario@190.50.25.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:46 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@190.50.25.50] has joined #openttd 16:26:48 <petern> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/pics/before.png 16:26:53 <petern> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/pics/after.png 16:26:59 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:23 <Rubidium> oh... OnResize not being called? 16:27:44 <petern> i don't really know the mechanics of that bit :) 16:27:50 <glx> missing redraw it seems too 16:28:18 <glx> visible near resize button 16:28:19 <Rubidium> nah, the capacity of the matrix/scrollbar aren't properly set 16:28:40 <Rubidium> glx: that's the resize button not filling 16:28:57 <Rubidium> that'd be 'just' a SetFill(false, true), in the nwidget spec 16:29:26 <petern> about that... would it be possible to make all elements in a group have the same height without requiring any fill etc? 16:29:34 <Rubidium> petern's issue would be solved by calling OnResize after FinishInitNested *or* always calling OnResize 16:29:53 <petern> a group being the contents of a horizontal or vertical container 16:30:28 <petern> there are other windows that have the same 'need to resize' behavour 16:30:31 <petern> +i 16:30:32 <Rubidium> for vertical containers you're talking about width instead of height, right? 16:30:41 <petern> right 16:31:45 <Rubidium> that would be possible in theory; basically the horizontal container setting the 'fill y' bit when adding elements... but there is a catch to that 16:32:34 <Rubidium> that makes the whole horizontal container a filler, meaning that it might make the whole horizontal container higher than necessary 16:32:54 <petern> yes, but i meant without doing anything with 'fill y' 16:33:17 <petern> i know that it won't work with that :) 16:35:01 <Rubidium> petern: http://rbijker.net/openttd/something_like_this.diff might do the trick, although it might backfire on some windows 16:36:55 <planetmaker> hello 16:36:58 <petern> hm 16:37:14 <planetmaker> I think your screenshots, petern, also show one other thing: the resize button placement could also use a bit of love 16:38:21 <petern> planetmaker, please scrollback 16:38:32 <Rubidium> planetmaker: lots of things should have a bit of love with big fonts 16:38:35 <petern> Rubidium, doesn't work :) 16:38:59 <petern> it's the right height but starts at its old y-position 16:39:04 <petern> so it overflows, hehe 16:39:49 <Rubidium> new diff, probably better result 16:42:16 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18119 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_gui.cpp build_vehicle_gui.cpp window.cpp): -Codechange/Fix: always call OnResize so the matrices/scrollbars are initialised without the need for duplicating the OnResize code 16:45:21 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/screenshot%233.png <- there my 'hack' diff backfires 16:45:37 * Rubidium is amazed by the filesize of the image 16:46:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B490.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:06 <petern> hmm 16:55:28 <petern> the 'minimize' button on the expenses window doesn't mark the window dirty when it expands it to full size 16:55:46 <petern> or it does, but it doesn't work 16:55:55 <petern> the resize on the colour window doens't work right either 16:58:13 <Rubidium> so something not going right with ReInit 16:59:14 <Rubidium> does http://rbijker.net/openttd/something_like_this.diff fix the issue? 17:00:11 <petern> yup 17:01:24 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:38 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18120 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix (r18119): sometimes ReInit didn't dirty the new window 17:02:51 <Belugas> damned... Now, i'm not sure wheter it's the screen or the window that is dirty :S 17:04:01 <petern> heh 17:05:47 <Belugas> dirty... dirty hands... eat... lunch time!! 17:15:54 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18121 /trunk/src/ (9 files): -Codechange: pass the maximum left/right location to the Draw*Engine functions 17:18:41 *** Benny [~Benny@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:57 *** Fenris [~fenris@p578E2F44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:14 <Johnmit`> quick question 17:25:26 <MyCatVerbs> Rapid answer. 17:25:58 <Johnmit`> does OTTD have a (hidden) feature which shows all cargo packets in the game, or all cargo packets delivered based on cargo? 17:26:18 <Johnmit`> I know there is the the graph for per year stuff 17:27:01 <Johnmit`> i remember seeing a screen shot (probably ttdp) and wondered if OTTD had something similiar? 17:27:31 <Johnmit`> as in summary table thing 17:39:44 <Rubidium> not that I'm aware of 17:42:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:45:08 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Non%20nomm%C3%A9,%204%20F%C3%A9v%201980%231.png <- current state 17:45:12 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Non%20nomm%C3%A9,%204%20F%C3%A9v%201980.png <- improved state 17:45:33 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Unnamed,%204th%20Feb%201980.png <- same, but rtl 17:46:18 <glx> broken newgrf ;) 17:47:09 <Rubidium> note that NARS uses SETX for spacing and, thus, gets its spacing right. If spaces are used it'll get messy 17:49:24 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Unnamed,%204th%20Feb%201980%232.png <- the difference between using spaces and not using them 17:50:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf00.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:09 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:56:30 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Dafingburg%20Transport,%2022nd%20Feb%201980.png <- newer fish behaves nicely :) 17:57:10 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18122 /trunk/src/build_vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix: the build vehicle GUI would draw a (few) pixels over the border 17:58:59 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18123 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp roadveh_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: try our best to keep the vehicles within the build vehicle list/autoreplace lists instead of overflowing. 18:01:40 <petern> and thusly, i am home 18:01:49 * frosch123 wonders about arabic fast forward 18:02:07 <Rubidium> frosch123: :) 18:03:48 <petern> was there ever a concensus with how to deal with SETX with larger fonts? 18:04:14 <frosch123> no 18:04:38 <Rubidium> nope, but for the build vehicle gui SETX ought to behave as 'exact' X pixels, not something scaled to the font size 18:04:47 <frosch123> there was the oz party, who want to use setxy and custom font to draw ascii art / engine pictures somewhere 18:04:56 <frosch123> and therw was the party to ditch them all 18:04:57 <Rubidium> usage in other places to 'make' a table or so is something completely else 18:05:09 <petern> mmmm 18:06:10 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 18:18:40 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_SERVER_SHUTDOWN] 18:29:08 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:29:22 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D32A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:31 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 18:33:15 *** Keith [Keith@x078201.lr-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 18:34:13 <Keith> hi there 18:35:10 <Rubidium> hi 18:36:01 <Keith> hwo are you all? 18:36:15 <Xaroth> space shuttle launch soon :o 18:36:21 <Xaroth> gotta love live streams :) 18:36:27 <Keith> is there anyone here who could get me started with adding patches to the game? 18:36:32 <Keith> ooo linky? 18:36:46 <Xaroth> http://www.spacevidcast.com/ 18:36:52 <Rubidium> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=21678 ? 18:36:53 <Xaroth> HD-ish feed 18:37:38 <Forked> adding as in downloading and applying already made patches or create your own? 18:37:51 <Keith> the former 18:38:30 <Forked> then look at Rubidiums url :) 18:38:35 <Keith> thanks 18:38:55 <Keith> I once had a go at working on the NoAI thing, but it didn't really work out 18:39:40 <Xaroth> NoAI is in trunk now anyhow :P 18:41:00 <Keith> well back then it was too I guess, I didn't have to compile the source code 18:42:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r18124 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): 18:45:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 1 changes by josesun 18:45:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: french - 1 changes by glx 18:45:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: indonesian - 5 changes by prof 18:45:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: romanian - 11 changes by kkmic 18:45:31 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: russian - 2 changes by Lone_Wolf 18:47:33 <Benny> Xaroth: Cool, thanks! :D 18:48:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:28 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]] 18:52:56 <Keith> I can't seem to download MinGW :S 18:57:26 <Keith> aha, I think the newer version works :) 19:22:34 *** Benny [~Benny@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has left #openttd [] 19:31:47 <petern> hmm 19:31:51 <petern> small fonts 19:32:00 <petern> openttd @ 320x240 :D 19:32:02 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 19:38:53 <Keith> in http://wiki.openttd.org/Compiling_on_MinGW#Introduction, what is "the SVN zip file"? 19:42:12 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:45:39 <Coco-Banana-Man> [20:32:08] <petern> openttd @ 320x240 :D <--- playing it on mobile phone? :) 19:46:59 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:47:24 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db02452.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:36 <petern> no 19:47:41 <petern> just on my pc 19:49:33 <petern> 320x240 on a 1680x1050 screen is a bit silly mind you ;) 19:50:57 <Belugas> unless wanting to test some magnifying lenses 19:51:04 <Belugas> or doing macro photography ^_^ 19:51:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B490.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:52:58 <petern> it's my "welshdragon" emulation 19:53:14 <frosch123> you can play 24 games at once that way 19:54:23 <petern> 20, anyway 20:01:43 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008103100]] 20:04:27 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.131.221] has joined #openttd 20:06:05 <Keith> 20 TTD games at once? why? 20:06:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B490.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:23 <glx> network game testing :) 20:11:38 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@139.95.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:09 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Quit: bye - http://www.openttdcoop.org] 20:17:09 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:17:09 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish] 20:17:09 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 20:17:09 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Quit: ...und tschüß!] 20:17:09 *** tneo [~tneo@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:17:42 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18125 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt waypoint_gui.cpp): -Fix: the waypoint/buoy window had the wrong text colour in their title 20:25:36 *** SmatZ__ [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:28:13 <Keith> can someone help me, when following the tutorial on compilation, it fails when compiling wget 20:28:58 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:29:57 <glx> I never followed the tutorial 20:29:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-7bf8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:30:29 <Keith> but you still have to follow more or less the same steps right? 20:31:11 <glx> I always use the same way, install mingw, install msys, download openttd required stuff source, configure, compile, install 20:31:59 <Keith> yeah I downloaded a tar.bz2 for wget 20:32:03 <Keith> and tried to compile it 20:32:10 <glx> not needed for openttd :) 20:32:34 <Keith> so why is it in the Tutorial then? 20:32:52 <Keith> really all I want to do is add the dist patch... 20:33:05 <glx> but the tutorial needs it for mingwport 20:33:37 <glx> just get zlib and libpng source from official sites 20:33:44 <Keith> ok 20:34:10 <glx> (linux way ;) ) 20:34:39 <Keith> I'm on Windows Vista 20:34:43 * Keith hides 20:34:49 <glx> anyway the tutorial is outdated, it misses at least freetype and icu 20:35:10 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18126 /trunk/src/ (18 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: remove duplicate (since r18119) scrollbar capacity/matrix initialisation 20:35:19 <glx> by linux way I mean get the source, configure, make, make install :) 20:35:40 <Keith> oh ok 20:35:53 <Keith> but the compilation seems to fail 20:36:16 <Keith> how should I download the zlib source? 20:36:56 <glx> http://zlib.net/ 20:36:58 <Zuu> Do you need the source? Or why can't you use openttd-usefull? 20:37:11 <glx> openttd-useful is for msvc 20:37:15 <Zuu> Oh 20:37:23 <Keith> I want to add a patch and later maybe more patches 20:37:48 <glx> msvc is really the easier way on windows :) 20:37:52 <SmatZ__> OTTD can work without zlib, but you won't be able to load (almost) all recent savegames and use the Online Content system 20:38:18 <glx> hmm even intro game requires zlib IIRC 20:38:28 <SmatZ__> :-) 20:38:36 <glx> download content too :) 20:38:52 <glx> and of course multiplayer 20:39:55 <Keith> but I have downloaded, and am Trying to compile it using Mingw 20:40:02 <SmatZ__> hehe 20:40:47 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18127 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Adjust station accept/rating list height by number of lines instead of pixels. 20:44:35 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:57 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:44:59 <Keith> this is going nowhere 20:45:28 <Zuu> Did you try msvc or did you have any reason against it? 20:45:31 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d8d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:45:37 <Keith> what is MSVC? 20:45:48 <Zuu> Microsoft Visua Studio 20:45:54 <Zuu> Visual* 20:46:00 <Keith> no I have not, don't really have a reason against it 20:46:02 <Keith> is it useful? 20:46:11 <Zuu> You can get Visual Studio Express 2008 for free. 20:46:21 <Keith> but does that make it easier? 20:46:38 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d8d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:11 <Zuu> It is one of the best IDEs out there. Some have other IDEs they prefere higher and some like msvc the most, and some don't like it at all. :-) 20:47:32 <Keith> ok, at the moment I am naive and unopinionated :p 20:47:42 <Zuu> It still takes about 2-3 hours to get it up and running to compile OpenTTD. 20:47:52 <Zuu> So it is not a magic way. 20:48:06 <Keith> well the other is way seems far from magic too... 20:50:12 <Zuu> By using msvc you will probably download more stuff. The Windows SDK alone is more than one GB if I recall correctly. 20:50:57 <Zuu> /more stuff/bigger packages/ 20:50:57 <Keith> :| 20:51:27 <Zuu> On the upside there is openttd-usefull which contains all header-files and library files that you need to link with. 20:52:29 <Keith> that's only for MSVC 20:52:50 <Zuu> Yes 20:53:28 <Zuu> At least that is what glx told us. 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