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00:20:01 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 00:25:51 *** namad7 [aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:49 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-064-222.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:48:20 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-19-139.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:48:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 00:53:56 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-81-208.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:12:53 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.92.83] has joined #openttd 01:12:53 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:56 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 01:18:48 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f1c2:895b:60d1:258a] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:48:31 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 02:04:54 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.29.182.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:18 <dada_> http://wedemandhtml.com/tmp/Colonialist%20Oppressors%20Ltd.,%2001-12-2153.png boatz 02:24:22 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 03:30:29 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 03:48:46 *** telanus [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #openttd 03:57:32 *** telanus1 [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #openttd 04:02:48 *** telanus [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:46:16 *** Markk [mark@metamfetam.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5A40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5915.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:06:04 *** Markk [mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 05:10:50 *** telanus [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #openttd 05:11:33 *** telanus1 [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:25:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:28:49 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 05:31:59 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.92.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:39:52 *** telanus1 [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #openttd 05:45:51 *** telanus [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:11:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:21:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 06:32:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 06:32:56 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:46:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 06:54:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:55:12 <Terkhen> good morning 06:56:35 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-40-46.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:03:14 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:14:16 *** lucaspiller [uid2039@id-2039.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 07:18:55 <NGC3982> dada_: neat. 07:18:59 <NGC3982> Terkhen: Morning. 07:19:22 <Markk> Goedemorgen. 07:19:36 <NGC3982> Mark o/ 07:24:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:26:42 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-152-139.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 07:35:39 *** Markk [mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:37:27 *** Markk [mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 07:47:28 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-40-46.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:53:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 08:10:31 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 08:27:19 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08fbe5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:56 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:49:53 <planetmaker> moin 08:50:24 <Markk> Moin. 09:41:11 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 09:46:11 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:05:31 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:21:26 *** __ln__ is now known as __LN__ 10:21:41 <__LN__> MOIN 10:21:47 <__LN__> GUESS WHAT DAY IT IS AGAIN 10:22:57 <peter1138> CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL DAY 10:24:12 <NGC3982> I ACTUALLY THOUGHT YOU WOULDNT BE SO COOL ABOUT IT 10:24:42 <Markk> i don't want to be cool 10:24:45 <Markk> :( 10:24:56 * planetmaker guesses all-caps day ;-) 10:25:02 <Markk> yes. 10:25:09 <Markk> i'm gonna do the other way around. 10:28:48 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:35:36 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-40-46.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:41:31 <peter1138> Back in the old days we had shift-lock keys. 10:52:10 <szaman> i've recently seen old typewriter with shift-lock mechanically joined with shift, so pressing shift-lock, presses shift and holds it :-) 10:52:35 <NGC3982> With a mechanical lock? 10:52:48 <Markk> I have one of those. 10:52:56 <szaman> yes, it was mechanic typewriter 10:52:57 <NGC3982> Uuh. 10:53:12 <NGC3982> We've come a long way. 10:54:58 <szaman> http://typewriter.piwko.pl/maszyny/strange/continental.jpg 10:55:12 <NGC3982> Is it for sale? 10:55:15 <szaman> here, shift-lock is pressed and holds shift down :] 10:57:10 <szaman> i don't think it is for sale :P 10:57:20 <NGC3982> Oh, it's not yours? 10:58:19 <szaman> no, i've been in some caffe on the mai nsquare in Krakow, Poland. and there was such typewriter on window sill, right next to our table 10:58:44 <szaman> and i could play around a bit with this monster :] 10:59:27 <szaman> but it was not 'Continental', it has polish letters on the board 11:00:34 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-40-46.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:20 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:01:25 <szaman> oh, i found it :] http://cafezakatek.pl/grodzka//wp-content/uploads/2012/04/galeria-6.jpg 11:03:29 <szaman> they have damn good mulled beer with honey and clove 11:03:38 <NGC3982> Oh, i see. 11:06:37 <szaman> the funny thing about typewriters was deleting characters by overwriting X on the letters, but there was no way of deleting the X itself :] 11:11:36 *** krinn [~krinn@69.68.206.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 11:12:46 <krinn> hi, guys, never played MP opentttd, how could a client-side cheat ? 11:12:54 <planetmaker> not 11:13:09 <planetmaker> ideally at least 11:13:30 <planetmaker> but then it depends on what you call cheat and what settings you run your server with 11:13:43 <krinn> no idea, really never tried it 11:14:02 <krinn> just thinking how it would be doable, as in fact it is you that claim that :) 11:14:13 <krinn> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5339 <- 11:14:17 <NGC3982> I have never seen a client being able to use the in-game cheats in a multiplayer game. 11:14:39 <krinn> NGC3982, not the ingame cheat, but a client side script 11:14:45 <NGC3982> Ah 11:14:48 <NGC3982> Beyond me. :) 11:15:17 <planetmaker> krinn, cheat as in "gain unfair advantage by having a 2nd unannounced player along your side" 11:15:44 <krinn> planetmaker, is it really a problem ? 11:15:49 <planetmaker> yes 11:15:57 <krinn> planetmaker, you cannot knows you're not against a group of human 11:16:07 <krinn> or a young player help by his daddy... 11:16:28 <planetmaker> if I want to compete for whatever goal I want to know whether I build against one competitor or a player which has additional machine or further human support 11:16:41 <planetmaker> krinn, I DO see whether another player joins. 11:16:58 <planetmaker> I always see when I'm up against several players. 11:17:20 <planetmaker> So, please actually try MP before you make such statements which are wrong ;-) 11:17:21 <krinn> you're can only be sure you are playing against ONE competitor, not how many humans/machines/brains are behind that competitor entity 11:17:39 <planetmaker> I see exactly who plays in which company 11:18:17 <krinn> so it's not really a cheat, just some feeling 11:18:41 <planetmaker> my feeling is that you don't know which information about competitors you have and which not 11:19:06 <planetmaker> I always know exactly how many players there are in my competitors companies 11:19:34 <planetmaker> or can know, provided I care 11:20:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:20:18 <planetmaker> <krinn> you're can only be sure you are playing against ONE competitor, not how many humans/machines/brains are behind that competitor entity <-- that is a 100% wrong statement 11:20:48 <krinn> how? (still no offend never played it mp, just thinking about internet pocker party would be the same) 11:21:07 <planetmaker> we are talking openttd, right? 11:21:11 <krinn> right 11:21:19 <planetmaker> I'm not interested in other games 11:21:47 <krinn> but the problem appears the same : except webcam, you cannot know who is behind someone, just guess something that might be totally wrong 11:22:22 <krinn> but don't worry, i'm just digging the script side of the problem 11:22:25 <planetmaker> one client = one player. If there's 5 people in front of one keyboard, I don't care 11:22:58 <krinn> client can run their own script different from the server? 11:23:03 <planetmaker> they can't be really faster than I can be alone 11:23:24 <planetmaker> clients cannot run scripts 11:23:39 <krinn> ok, now i'm lost so 11:24:05 <planetmaker> and my argument in the thread you quote is "it's good that they cannot run scripts" 11:24:23 <planetmaker> as running scripts would allow exactly that: invisible scripted helpers 11:25:25 <krinn> ah got it, your against it build-in openttd 11:25:43 <krinn> but not as they are now 11:26:04 <planetmaker> I reject the suggestion in the FS-entry. I do not argue against anything existing 11:26:48 <krinn> yep got it now, i was taking more generally 11:27:17 <planetmaker> I was also rejecting the generalization of the suggestion ;-) 11:27:23 <krinn> :) 11:28:47 <krinn> thank planetmaker for answering 11:41:20 <planetmaker> mind: a *game* script is a script for the whole server. If the admin wants to cheat his company by using a specifically - crafted game script: then he can do so 11:41:29 <planetmaker> But admins have anyway all kind of options to cheat 11:41:54 <planetmaker> they own the server, thus can setup advantages to them as they see fit. And kill companies which threaten their "superiority" 11:42:19 <planetmaker> and a game script ALWAYS runs server-side. As do ai scripts 11:42:49 <planetmaker> they each are a separate client. Which interact with their specific API, sending commands to the server. The same way as every human player does via the client API 11:42:59 <planetmaker> so to speak 11:44:15 <krinn> so there's no cheat from client side, only from server side, but it's a power all admins have anyway 11:46:55 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-152-139.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:51:22 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-152-139.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:18:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:31:02 *** krinn [~krinn@69.68.206.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 12:42:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:07:10 <__LN__> http://www.bekkelund.net/2012/10/22/outlawed-by-amazon-drm/ 13:13:54 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:30 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 13:15:14 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:18:11 <Belugas> hello 13:19:00 <peter1138> hi 13:21:41 <dihedral> hi 13:22:09 <Belugas> hi guys :) 13:26:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:37:16 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41:54 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:06:54 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable133.8-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 14:07:28 <drac_boy> I know I used to ask about two verus four pistons for similar steam locomotives before but heres' one more technical question if thats ok.... 14:08:28 <drac_boy> wouldn't garrats have more steam heat loss than a mallet due to much longer pipes between the boiler and the two sets of pistons (especially the rear ones which must be several feet of pipes to reach0 14:14:18 <planetmaker> drac_boy, not saying that the question is wrong here. But to me it seems you more likely get a useful answer if you put that very specific question to the forums 14:17:38 <drac_boy> hmm...guess I could think about that 14:18:10 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:32:50 <Pinkbeast> I don't know, but surely in any case the pipes are routed through the boiler. 14:38:01 <drac_boy> yeah, the one good bonus I can see for a garrat over mallet tho could be that the firebox isn't limited by any adjacent drive axles or sitting-underneath trailing axles. can be as wide and deep as it want to be up to a clearance limit 14:38:07 <drac_boy> I may be wrong on that one tho 14:43:28 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:45:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:1d7f:109f:95bc:f22c] has joined #openttd 14:51:27 <drac_boy> hi flherne I can't remember but were you working on any grfs or something else before? 14:53:02 <FLHerne> drac_boy: Still playing with objects, now pondering a FIRS addon-thing too 14:53:17 <FLHerne> Rather busy with other stuff at the moment though 14:54:28 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest2746 14:54:28 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@31.102.102.121] has joined #openttd 14:54:29 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 15:01:38 *** Guest2746 [~Andy@2002:4d66:7022:0:1d7f:109f:95bc:f22c] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:29 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:07:19 <drac_boy> ah ok 15:07:43 <drac_boy> I haven't really done much progress on my one major grf set...mainly from other things in the way (aside to still needing three major computer parts too meh) 15:10:08 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest2747 15:10:08 *** Guest2747 [~Andy@31.102.102.121] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@31.102.102.121] has joined #openttd 15:20:06 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 15:21:21 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has joined #openttd 15:23:54 <andythenorth> I think I have to stop visiting the lego forums 15:24:16 <andythenorth> they bring out the worst troll in me 15:24:19 <andythenorth> they're such idiots 15:24:49 <drac_boy> which one? 15:25:08 <andythenorth> eurobricks 15:25:20 <andythenorth> to be more accurate, they're not all idiots 15:25:23 <andythenorth> but idiots go there 15:25:30 <andythenorth> in droves 15:25:39 <andythenorth> whining 15:25:51 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:25:56 <drac_boy> hm never looked at that one much (their coding is rather crappy...takes some time to load one single page) 15:26:14 <drac_boy> if you're just looking for mocs alone try brothers-brick.com instead .. or just do random searches on brickshelf.com ;) 15:26:14 <andythenorth> they upgraded last week 15:26:28 <Rubidium> drac_boy: might be because a mindstorm isn't that performant 15:26:29 <andythenorth> brothers-brick does seem better 15:26:41 <andythenorth> 'hosted on mindstorms' :P 15:31:52 <drac_boy> andythenorth what sort of creations do you like or nothing in particular? 15:32:17 <andythenorth> mostly new release news 15:33:03 <drac_boy> heh I prefer classic creations except I don't mind certain newer pieces (especially colour too..such as purple..they never thought of that years ago) 15:33:34 <drac_boy> theres just something I don't like when a creation has tons of fancy pieces that usually only came in certain sets in certain numbers...if you know what I mean 15:36:27 *** telanus1 [~telanus@105-236-59-157.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has left #openttd [] 15:37:54 <drac_boy> lugnet used to be good but now its more of an archive than an actual discussion center tbh ... almost noone seem to post there 15:38:23 <andythenorth> drac_boy: some stuff is just too big... http://www.flickr.com/photos/andythenorth/4826895221/in/set-72157624454166047/ 15:40:10 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:18 <drac_boy> looks like chassis is a little longer than a 8868-1 truck :) .. wouldn't be surprised if the truck actually fits easily on top of your :P 15:43:25 <drac_boy> http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=8868-1 if you need to know what it is 15:45:50 <drac_boy> there actually was a tow truck technic set but I never liked it too much as there were a lot of custom plates on it .. not something I could had easily reused 15:50:40 <planetmaker> andythenorth, rather looks like a decent size to truck away both of the bowls in the background at once ;-) 15:50:48 <drac_boy> heh heh 15:52:25 <andythenorth> drac_boy: this will load on the rear deck http://www.flickr.com/photos/andythenorth/sets/72157624355140482/ 15:52:53 <andythenorth> biab 15:53:01 <drac_boy> oh so you have that set? hrm...heh ok 15:53:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@31.102.102.121] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:41 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.149] has joined #openttd 16:04:35 <drac_boy> going for lunch anyway 16:04:37 *** drac_boy [~drac_boy@modemcable133.8-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [I'm done being in this room!] 16:08:51 *** krinn [~krinn@69.68.206.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:12:27 <krinn> c++ <return value || value> is sane ? it looks like an error for me, how would it guess which one of the param to return ? 16:15:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:17:35 <__LN__> it's called operator precedence 16:18:25 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-105-47.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:29:48 <blathijs> krinn: __LN__: Actually, I think that will always return true or false, never either value 16:30:36 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:14 *** krinn [~krinn@69.68.206.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:36 *** krinn [~krinn@69.68.206.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:32:06 <planetmaker> it will return 1 if value != 0 and 0 if value == 0. I assume 16:32:27 <planetmaker> so... return value != 0 is the same 16:33:09 <blathijs> planetmaker: I suspect krinn meant "return value1 || value2", really 16:33:50 <krinn> really that yes 16:33:57 <krinn> value1 || value2 16:36:36 <blathijs> krinn: Did we clear things up for you? 16:38:53 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:42:54 <krinn> nope, still looks invalid as value1 will always be return no? 16:43:13 <krinn> return value1 || value2 value2 have no chance to get answer right ? 16:43:23 <krinn> /sanswer/return 16:44:35 <Eddi|zuHause> no 16:44:49 <Eddi|zuHause> if value1 is false, value2 will be returned 16:45:18 <Eddi|zuHause> if value1 is true, value1 will be returned 16:45:18 <krinn> oh, didn't knew it was doable as return parameter 16:46:11 <TinoDidriksen> You just parsed it wrong. It's return (value1 || value2). 16:46:49 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:47:01 <krinn> it's parse like i have put it so () might not be needs 16:47:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:47:37 <TinoDidriksen> It's parsed like I put it. 16:47:41 <blathijs> krinn: Okay, your last sentence didn't parse for me 16:47:53 <TinoDidriksen> You don't need () because that's how the precedence works. 16:50:18 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:52:10 <ZxBiohazardZx> heya 16:52:18 <krinn> hi zuu 16:52:28 <Zuu> Hello krinn 16:52:54 <Zuu> I have not yet had time to test your new SCP release. 16:53:34 <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz 16:53:38 <ZxBiohazardZx> 7>..\src\screenshot.cpp(716): error C2065: 'slot' : undeclared identifier 16:53:38 <ZxBiohazardZx> 7>..\src\screenshot.cpp(716): error C2065: 'file_index' : undeclared identifier 16:53:38 <ZxBiohazardZx> 7>..\src\screenshot.cpp(716): error C2143: syntax error : missing ',' before ';' 16:53:45 <ZxBiohazardZx> i think copy paste only got me so far :P 16:54:09 <ZxBiohazardZx> used patch/diff = http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=62942&p=1050952#p1050952 16:54:09 <krinn> I don't expect a test Zuu don't worry, and i know how time is short sometimes 16:54:16 <Zuu> But among the GSs that I have, I guess the most interesting one would probably be NoCarGoal. Fairly easy to do both on GS and AI side and with a clear benefit for users. 16:55:56 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1976:a25e:c67b:1657] has joined #openttd 16:55:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:55:57 <Zuu> Though currently, I try to finnish up my work to enable GSs to build and prospect industries in deity scope. 16:56:07 <krinn> Well, because of the usage, the more GS handling it, the more AI will, but AIs depend on GS for using it 16:56:10 <Zuu> .. but first dinner :-) 16:56:37 <krinn> yeah, going home too :) 16:56:38 <krinn> later 16:56:52 *** krinn [~krinn@69.68.206.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 16:57:18 <andythenorth> Zuu: \o/ 16:57:28 <andythenorth> to GS industry, not dinner :P 16:57:56 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:58:38 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 16:58:47 *** lucaspiller [uid2039@id-2039.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58:57 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:59:29 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:03 *** lucaspiller [uid2039@id-2039.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 17:00:07 *** CornishPasty [uid158@id-158.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 17:01:30 <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz 17:01:54 <ZxBiohazardZx> hate my low skill knowledge :( 17:02:13 <ZxBiohazardZx> i copied a line over but it wont compile due to non-existing parts (params) 17:02:49 <ZxBiohazardZx> Subdirectory subdir = slot == file_index ? SCREENSHOT_DIR; (similar to the line in newgrfs) but it doesnt recognise slot and fileindex :P 17:03:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5915.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:51 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5915.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:05:42 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:22 <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz down to 1 line if i just add uint file_index; uint slot = file_index; 17:08:25 <ZxBiohazardZx> 7>..\src\screenshot.cpp(718): error C2143: syntax error : missing ',' before ';' 17:09:31 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:31 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:44 <planetmaker> ZxBiohazardZx, I don't think it's helpful, if you paste here everytime the output of the compiler when you make a syntax error in your code... 17:11:00 <ZxBiohazardZx> i guess so 17:11:17 <ZxBiohazardZx> just frustration 17:11:43 * planetmaker hugs ZxBiohazardZx 17:11:51 <ZxBiohazardZx> if i put uint file_index; it will kill one compile error, but ofc doesnt make sense codewise, in newgrf its passes as parameter 17:11:52 <NGC3982> Hey. 17:11:57 <ZxBiohazardZx> haha thx planet i needed that 17:13:10 <ZxBiohazardZx> i think im doing it all wrong, thought it would be easier then it was :P 17:13:11 <ZxBiohazardZx> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=62942&p=1050952#p1050952 17:13:30 <ZxBiohazardZx> wanted to add a screenshot dir inside /OTTD 17:13:36 <ZxBiohazardZx> suggestion made sense :P 17:13:46 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:19 <TyrHeimdal> aaaaaaah! Clog in my network! >< 17:16:00 <planetmaker> the suggestion for a screenshot dir makes sense, yes 17:16:08 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:25 <ZxBiohazardZx> my code is not :) 17:16:28 <ZxBiohazardZx> does not* 17:17:12 <ZxBiohazardZx> i think the fileio parts are ok, just the implementation of screenshot.cpp is wrong for it gives compile errors and checking how they cheated it in on LoadNewGRF isnt helping as that isnt a saveing operation 17:17:38 <ZxBiohazardZx> i checked saveload but there it is a parameter passed to the function (Subdirectory sb) 17:21:32 <ZxBiohazardZx> meh whatever gotta go anyway 17:21:36 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER] 17:31:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A859.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:32:30 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 17:39:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:39:14 <Wolf01> evenink o/ 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24622 /trunk/src/lang (afrikaans.txt dutch.txt) (2012-10-22 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> afrikaans - 1 changes by Oomjcv 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> dutch - 7 changes by habell 17:49:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0083ff.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A859.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:40 *** keoz [~keikoz@94.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:52 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:54:33 <Alberth> moin 17:55:32 <Wolf01> moin Sir Alberth 17:55:40 <planetmaker> hallo Alberth 17:56:31 <Alberth> hi 18:00:25 <andythenorth> quak Alberth 18:00:43 <Alberth> hi andy 18:08:40 *** bolli [~sam@87.114.150.188] has joined #openttd 18:10:49 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:55 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:32 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 18:28:00 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:41 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:49 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 18:55:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.185.147] has joined #openttd 18:56:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r24623 /trunk/src (5 files in 2 dirs) (2012-10-22 18:56:21 UTC) 18:56:27 <DorpsGek> -Feature: Allow GameScripts to construct and prospect industries without having a sponsor 19:01:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CF34.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:11 <andythenorth> \o/ 19:13:37 <Wolf01> \o/ too (I don't know what does mean that, but I read the tag Feature :P) 19:14:31 <Alberth> Wolf01: you know game scripts? 19:14:46 <Wolf01> yeah, I tried the tutorials one 19:15:09 <Wolf01> but I usually play with grfs only 19:15:18 <Alberth> this commit enables that a GS can build industries at will 19:15:34 <Alberth> so it can build industries for you to connect to, for example 19:15:34 <andythenorth> it's very nice 19:15:46 <andythenorth> now $someone needs to write a GS for it :) 19:16:11 <Alberth> $ with lowercase letters looks so weird :p 19:16:44 <Alberth> I only use $SHELL_VARIABLE like variables :) 19:17:22 <andythenorth> I'll fix it 19:17:35 <andythenorth> $SOMEONE needs write a GS using the nice new feature 19:18:01 <Alberth> Wolf01: the nocargoal and silicon valley goal scripts are fun to play even for short games 19:18:46 <Alberth> they give you the challenge to deliver certain cargoes in some quantity to a given destination 19:18:56 <Wolf01> the problem is that I can't see an immediate application, but I can figure out a supermassive plan about this new feature 19:19:48 <Alberth> the simplest application is an empty map with 2 industries. mission: connect them 19:20:05 <Alberth> when you do, you get two new industries to connect, and so on 19:20:14 <andythenorth> he 19:20:17 <andythenorth> Alberth: write that script :) 19:20:29 <andythenorth> MP winner is player with most industries 'awarded' 19:21:05 <Wolf01> ah ok, that would be cool, one could transform OTTD in a puzzle game with that 19:21:20 <Wolf01> be quick to connect 2 industries before they disappear 19:21:33 <Alberth> :) 19:22:17 <Wolf01> mmmh, TT, puzzle game... mega spaghetti :D 19:22:19 <Alberth> like subsidies :) 19:23:40 <andythenorth> bomber man 19:23:44 <Wolf01> it would be cool that the connection, once established, won't be "editable" (for example it switches to an hidden second player) 19:23:48 <andythenorth> connect the industry before it explodes :P 19:23:55 <andythenorth> Zuu: got control over disasters yet? 19:23:56 <andythenorth> :P 19:24:15 <Alberth> nice idea Wolf01 :) 19:24:48 <Wolf01> and the whole track/road disappears if one of the industries close 19:24:54 <Wolf01> so you can reuse the land 19:25:16 <Wolf01> just like when a company bankrupts 19:25:35 <Wolf01> but this mean one company per connection 19:26:17 <Zuu> andythenorth: Nope. Currently work a SCP interface for NoCarGoal. 19:36:32 <bolli> quick question. Anybody got any idea why I get an error from NMLC with this: https://gist.github.com/3933576 ? 19:37:06 <bolli> Error is: "Unrecognized identifier 'coradia3_midcar' encountered" 19:38:53 <bolli> never mind, Me being a wally forgot to declare the spriteset... 19:40:43 *** pverha10 [~pverha10@2001:980:12d2::3e] has joined #openttd 19:43:49 <pverha10> Did I observe correctly that the openttd content server is not listening on IPv6, but it is on IPv4? So that people that have IPv6 aren't able to check for online content in the game? 19:44:00 <BtbN> yes 19:44:07 <BtbN> complained about this a while ago 19:44:09 <BtbN> nothing changed 19:44:34 <andythenorth> ask for your money back :) 19:44:49 <pverha10> Is there anything I can do about it? 19:44:53 <BtbN> disable ipv6 19:44:57 <pverha10> hehehe :P 19:45:28 <BtbN> no Addons while connected via IPv6 19:45:44 <BtbN> cause the server has a v6 address, but is not listening on it 19:46:18 <pverha10> Thank you, I will make a feature request. bye 19:47:32 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-106-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:47:37 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: is the IPv6 content issue still not fixed? 19:48:09 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: if so, when will it be fixed? Would it make sense to remove the ipv6 address from content.openttd.org? 19:49:36 <TrueBrain> owh, totally forgot about it 19:49:39 <TrueBrain> it was that weird issue 19:49:46 <TrueBrain> euh, just remove it for now 19:49:54 <TrueBrain> and remind me next weekend plz, in case I forget again 19:49:56 <TrueBrain> or fix it :P 19:52:04 *** pverha10 [~pverha10@2001:980:12d2::3e] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:58:31 *** bolli [~sam@87.114.150.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:20 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-119-203.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:00:06 <Rubidium> okay, changed the DNS 20:03:02 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:09:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:02 <Terkhen> good night 20:23:45 *** swissfan91 [5e0450aa@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:24:43 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:44:26 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:36 *** swissfan91 [5e0450aa@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:54:13 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524A7DE2.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:37 *** __LN__ is now known as __ln__ 21:01:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:08:24 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524B53F1.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:08:30 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524B53F1.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 21:11:01 *** keoz [~keikoz@94.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 21:19:23 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:19:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-94-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:24:17 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 21:28:42 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524B53F1.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:45:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0083ff.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:03 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 22:03:24 *** efess [~Efess@ool-18bfeb53.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:43 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-105-47.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:48 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08fbe5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:58 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-119-203.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121010150351]] 22:28:02 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:43:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:00 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 23:03:31 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:56 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 23:47:58 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit []