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00:12:37 *** keoz [~keikoz@59.144.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 00:15:31 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 00:23:06 <wolfmitchell> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA lololololololol 00:25:23 *** keoz [~keikoz@59.144.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 00:31:12 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:33:20 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@09GAAALO5.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 00:34:07 <peter1138> possibly a slight overreaction 00:47:03 *** Meechmunchie [~meechmunc@89.204.135.205] has joined #openttd 00:48:02 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-076-251.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 00:52:38 *** Meechmunchie [~meechmunc@89.204.135.205] has quit [Quit: Robots have shiny metal posteriors which should not be bitten.] 00:53:15 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-076-251.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:53:16 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 01:09:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 01:14:54 *** chester_ [~chester@95-24-234-157.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:21:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:05 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 01:27:30 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:46 *** Meechmunchie [~meechmunc@89.204.135.205] has joined #openttd 01:38:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67183.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 01:39:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:42:38 *** Meechmunchie [~meechmunc@89.204.135.205] has quit [Quit: Robots have shiny metal posteriors which should not be bitten.] 01:50:08 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-076-251.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:59:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 01:59:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5109.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:06:28 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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[~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:03 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-68-0.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:29:45 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:18 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:53 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 10:00:23 <andythenorth> sometimes I wonder if I could not import 1 bazillion things to every python module 10:02:15 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:03:55 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:20 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-2-245.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:04:26 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:04:34 <Pikka> I don't 10:04:52 <andythenorth> I bet 10:05:06 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05:11 <andythenorth> Pikka chops, where is your HOQSV untracking table? 10:05:21 <andythenorth> so I can copy it 10:05:23 <andythenorth> for BANDIT 10:05:28 <andythenorth> with sprinkles 10:05:39 <Pikka> http://www.pikkarail.com/junk/after.png 10:05:40 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:06:03 <Pikka> It's not really bandity though 10:06:32 <Pikka> http://www.pikkarail.com/junk/before.png is the old one 10:08:15 <andythenorth> looks pretty bandity to me 10:08:21 <andythenorth> as I cba to work out my own set 10:09:01 <andythenorth> so nothing below 12t, because that's pointless 10:09:20 <andythenorth> and you have unrealistically high top end 10:09:26 <andythenorth> k 10:10:04 * andythenorth considers a capapacity param 10:11:01 <andythenorth> Pikka: you refitting the body type on rigids? 10:11:08 <Pikka> yes 10:11:12 <andythenorth> even with autorefit 10:11:13 <andythenorth> ? 10:11:45 <Pikka> I think so 10:11:51 <andythenorth> ugh :) 10:12:01 <andythenorth> I am thinking dropside, tanker 10:12:05 <andythenorth> covers most evils 10:12:07 <Pikka> it may be possible to avoid it 10:12:08 <andythenorth> maybe a fridge 10:12:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A26F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:12:41 <Pikka> you may not have this problem with bandit, but I feel like limiting autorefit to certain vehicles is an unnecessary imposition of realism :) 10:13:00 <peter1138> :( 10:13:05 <Pikka> otherwise I would probably limit autorefit to semis 10:13:06 <andythenorth> I just don't like the visual hoo-haa when a tanker turns into a flatbed :P 10:13:07 <peter1138> not enough vehicles! ;( 10:13:30 <andythenorth> there are 8 10:13:31 <Pikka> andythenorth, it might be difficult to avoid 10:13:32 <andythenorth> it's a nice number 10:13:48 <andythenorth> Pikka: it's impossible to avoid afaict 10:13:52 <andythenorth> unless you like broken orders 10:13:53 <Pikka> especially with no prop 25 for road vehicles 10:13:54 <Pikka> :) 10:14:05 <andythenorth> hmm 10:14:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it's easy to avoid, just offer flatbeds and tankers as separate vehicles 10:14:17 <andythenorth> Squid is 30CC 10:14:22 <andythenorth> BANDIT might be 16CC 10:14:26 <Pikka> there are 8? 10:14:27 <andythenorth> do you see a pattern there? 10:14:28 <Pikka> there are 16 10:14:56 <andythenorth> there is no spoon 10:14:59 <andythenorth> biab 10:15:28 <Pikka> bye 10:19:36 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:22:09 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:22:45 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:25:52 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 10:33:01 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, yes 10:37:20 <andythenorth> hmm 10:37:29 <andythenorth> 4 tankers, 4 flatbeds, 3 artics 10:37:33 <andythenorth> 11CC 10:38:43 <V453000> severe lack of unicorns 10:38:58 <andythenorth> they go in HEQS 10:40:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you miss the boxcars of course 10:40:37 <V453000> boxcars are boring 10:40:44 <V453000> cargo aint visible in them :( 10:41:31 <andythenorth> bye 10:41:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:12:03 <Eddi|zuHause> "if you write cryptocode, make sure that the memset that deletes your key does not get optimized out" 11:12:31 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:40 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26:15 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:27:53 <peter1138> heh 11:30:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has 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[~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 14:19:10 <Sacro> goodger: but then how does TTO know how to find my soundcard? 14:19:43 <Sacro> best load mscdex as well 14:45:10 <peter1138> dosbox or real? 14:48:15 *** chester_ [~chester@128-68-174-185.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:48:56 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 14:48:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: but dosbox sets these automatically by default 15:14:44 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:19:52 <Belugas> hello 15:22:19 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: ooh nice 15:22:37 <Sacro> i should use a full screen dosbox at work 15:22:41 <Sacro> with norton commander 15:30:34 <Eddi|zuHause> and mscdex you don't need either, you just mount with "-t cdrom" 15:31:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD45CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:32:43 <Sacro> :( 15:32:47 <Sacro> :o 15:32:50 <Sacro> there's no Eddi 15:33:55 <goodger> I am sure he'll be back 15:38:02 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:27 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:41:57 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 15:47:40 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:44 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:04:26 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@178.107.68.116] has joined #openttd 16:04:39 <andythenorth_> Bon apples 16:12:07 *** TWerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:13:12 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:15:02 <andythenorth_> So original ttd has about 30 trucks per climate 16:15:30 <andythenorth_> I was thinking 10 :p 16:15:31 <andythenorth_> Too boring? 16:17:32 <peter1138> original trucks aren't refittable though 16:18:28 <andythenorth_> Nope 16:18:38 <andythenorth_> I forgot mail trucks 16:19:00 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:01 <andythenorth_> Probly better have some of those :p 16:19:09 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 16:19:20 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:20 <andythenorth_> Does anyone transport nail by truck ? ? 16:19:28 *** TWerkhoven [~TWerkhove@cpc10-linl9-2-0-cust80.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:19:37 <andythenorth_> Nail / mail / phone keyboard 16:20:10 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-68-0.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:23:50 <peter1138> yeah i have done 16:24:42 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:32:04 <andythenorth_> Postman pat van? Or 18 wheeler? o_O 16:34:32 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34:39 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:03 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:39:09 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:39:21 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:44:35 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:28 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@178.107.68.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:31 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@178.107.68.116] has joined #openttd 16:53:09 <Pikka> in OpenTTD, andy, or IRL? 16:53:14 <Pikka> http://www.flickr.com/photos/quarterdeck/8459968861/ 16:58:32 <Pikka> looking at the main north brisbane mail centre in google earth, I can see about 30 postman pat vans, half a dozen 3-axle heavy rigids, and about 8 artics 16:59:07 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:15 <Pikka> the postman pat vans are used for brisbane distribution, actual delivery is done by motorbike for letters and contractors for parcels 16:59:21 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 17:00:27 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 17:00:43 <Pikka> hmm, maybe those aren't semis, they're very large 3 axle trucks 17:01:46 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:25 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@178.107.68.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:31 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 17:09:07 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ac158d4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:29:56 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@178.107.68.116] has joined #openttd 17:30:27 <andythenorth_> In that case, no pat vans 17:31:03 <andythenorth_> Big rigid trucks ftw everywhere 17:31:40 <Pikka> hooray 17:31:59 <Pikka> more realistic than pat vans for inter-city transport, which is what you're mostly doing in OpenTTD anyway 17:33:09 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:33:25 <andythenorth_> I still haven't figured out any theme 17:33:38 <andythenorth_> I like a thene :p 17:44:37 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@178.107.68.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:59 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:55:25 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:48 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 18:02:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A26F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:02:50 <supermop> i want a grid/line drawing monochrome base set 18:03:02 <supermop> so i can play at work more surrepticiously 18:03:45 <HerzogDeXtEr> lol 18:06:11 <supermop> green dimetric grass and cartoonish hills looks blatantly like non work from across the room 18:07:44 <V453000> lol 18:08:31 <V453000> you could replace all sprites with letters 18:09:14 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:13:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 18:13:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fedd2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:32 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:15:59 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:16:55 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:17:47 <V453000> is it just me or does TTRS+FIRS wtfbork? 18:17:57 <V453000> 3.13 for TTRS and 0.10.0 for FIRS 18:22:57 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-2-245.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:24:33 <frosch123> ttrs has some parameters to disable banks 18:24:52 <frosch123> or other fancy cargos/industries 18:25:31 <V453000> it doesnt :s 18:28:46 <frosch123> ah, well, you need version 4 18:28:57 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ttrs4 18:29:02 <frosch123> iirc the main feature of that version is that switch 18:29:11 <frosch123> to enable compatibility with industry sets 18:30:32 <V453000> o_O 18:30:32 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ttrs <- hmm, maybe that one is more correct 18:30:32 <V453000> that aint on bananas though 18:31:35 <V453000> hasnt there been some bank changing in version like 3.10 already? 18:32:11 <frosch123> so, i only dreamed all of that? 18:32:12 <frosch123> planetmaker: tell me :) 18:32:37 <V453000> idk I havent heard about anything such going on lately ... but that doesnt mean it couldnt have happened :) 18:32:45 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1287 18:33:05 <V453000> Updated by foobar over 2 years ago 18:33:24 <frosch123> "That is a good idea. IF (VALU/GOLD/DIAM) THEN have bank as industry; ELSE have bank as house." 18:33:39 <frosch123> so, apparently it is compatible with firs 18:34:05 <V453000> well yea, but I just tried FIRS 0.10.0 and TTRS3.13 and all houses were banks 18:34:20 <V453000> it used to work as far as I remember 18:34:36 <frosch123> ah, that's a different issue 18:34:39 <frosch123> it's fixed in r42 18:34:43 <frosch123> which is unreleased 18:34:53 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ttrs/repository <- r39 is 3.13 18:35:01 <frosch123> r42 fixed banks appearing in too early years 18:35:10 <frosch123> so, you have to start your game after 1930 18:35:13 <frosch123> or all will be banks :) 18:35:46 <V453000> alright it only happens with some certaion settings 18:36:09 <frosch123> startyear is the important one 18:37:00 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37:39 <V453000> oh 18:37:43 <V453000> WTF :d 18:37:53 <V453000> I dont want to start the game before 1930 :d 18:38:49 <frosch123> add another house set :p 18:38:54 <frosch123> with houses before 1930 18:39:22 <frosch123> or poke pm or foobar to release an update :p 18:39:47 <V453000> well I just used japanese buildings instead of TTRS but I will give them a poke when I see them 18:40:04 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 18:48:18 <planetmaker> frosch123, V453000 IIRC I added a switch to disable banks as industries to TTRS 18:48:46 <V453000> any chance you remember which version is that in? :) 18:48:47 <planetmaker> So yes, I added it specifically to be compatible with FIRS ;-) 18:48:58 <frosch123> planetmaker: nope, you didn't :p 18:49:06 <planetmaker> I did not? Hm... 18:49:13 <frosch123> foobar added an autodetection of cargos 18:49:34 <planetmaker> Maybe I detected FIRS and then disabled the industry banks only 18:49:36 <frosch123> and v's issue was a different one 18:49:48 <frosch123> but nevertheless there is no current ttrs release :) 18:50:10 <planetmaker> with the house thing fixed? 18:50:22 <frosch123> r39 is the last tag 18:50:28 <frosch123> r42 fixes the bug v encountered 18:50:52 <frosch123> fix is from 2012-06, last release from 2011-11 18:50:57 <planetmaker> hm, I guess I could make a new release :-) 18:51:14 <planetmaker> but first I'll try get still some bread and then dinner before I starve to death 18:51:23 <planetmaker> finding drivers for old hardware... is a big PTIA 18:51:34 <planetmaker> especially obscure hardware 18:51:54 <V453000> ho :) 18:57:41 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:59:50 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:08:38 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:35:29 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25084 /trunk/src/lang (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-03-12 18:45:19 UTC) 19:35:30 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:31 <DorpsGek> catalan - 2 changes by arnau 19:35:32 <DorpsGek> korean - 2 changes by telk5093 19:35:33 <DorpsGek> gaelic - 2 changes by GunChleoc 19:36:35 <andythenorth> Game Script? 19:36:40 <andythenorth> MP? 19:39:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD45CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:19 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:46:56 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:24 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19CB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:33 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:56:12 <andythenorth> frosch123: ^ ? 19:56:42 <frosch123> not today 19:56:57 * andythenorth makes newgrfs in that case 20:07:07 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:21:46 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:21:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 20:24:54 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:27:18 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:51 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host31-54-127-222.range31-54.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:27:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host49-232-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:28:31 <Wolf01> hello 20:28:53 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 20:29:03 <Wolf01> "Optimizing game files"... taking ages 20:29:55 *** k4be [~k@2001:5c0:1502:8c00:6e62:6dff:fec0:87cb] has joined #openttd 20:30:14 <k4be> hey 20:30:19 <Alberth> hi 20:32:11 <k4be> i'm looking for solution to this message "Error: Failed to find a graphics set. Please acquire a graphics set for OpenTTD. See section 4.1 of readme.txt." on a dedicated server built from source 20:32:30 <k4be> compared the directories with working server on gentoo, found no differences 20:32:37 <k4be> i think it can't find the files 20:33:23 <Wolf01> is the openttd.cfg in the same directory of the game or it is in a user directory? 20:33:48 <frosch123> k4be: emerge opengfx 20:33:55 <k4be> ~/.openttd user directory 20:34:21 <k4be> this is not gentoo, i'm trying building from source on centos 20:34:32 <k4be> it works correctly on gentoo 20:34:51 <Wolf01> I usually make "portable" installations (with the .cfg in the same directory) and always works 20:35:00 <k4be> the ~/.openttd is copied from working system 20:35:11 <frosch123> it should be in /usr/share/games/openttd/baseset 20:35:13 <frosch123> or so 20:35:36 <frosch123> maybe share and games is switched :) 20:37:15 <Wolf01> uh, nice, I have 14MB of updated grfs to download :P 20:37:47 <k4be> also not starting after rm -r ~/.openttd 20:37:53 <planetmaker> not much. Use zbase. And wait for an update there, Wolf01 ;-) 20:38:07 <planetmaker> lol, k4be of course not :-) 20:38:08 <k4be> it installed in /usr/local atm, different than in gentoo 20:38:43 <planetmaker> you need to provide a base set in one of the search paths of the openttd binary 20:39:00 <k4be> how to find out which are these paths? 20:39:08 <planetmaker> which easiest is done by using your package manager 20:39:12 <planetmaker> readme :-) 20:39:29 <planetmaker> line... 188 or so... 20:39:53 <planetmaker> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/tags/1.3.0-RC2/readme.txt#L266 20:40:50 <Wolf01> whoa, what you have done?! I updated the game and suddenly buttons, buttons everywhere 20:42:17 <k4be> it installed its files in /usr/local/games and /usr/local/share/games 20:42:27 <k4be> do i have to change install prefix for it to work? 20:44:14 <k4be> or is there a way to put paths in command line arguments or openttd.cfg? can't find any info in docs 20:45:29 <planetmaker> k4be, just symlink opengfx then into your homedir's ~/.openttd/baseset 20:45:36 <planetmaker> or the whole baseset dir 20:46:02 <planetmaker> ln -s /usr/local/share/games/baseset ~/.openttd/baseset/sys-base 20:46:06 <planetmaker> or something like that 20:46:23 <planetmaker> IFF there's a baseset folder in /usr/local/share/games/baseset 20:49:01 <k4be> /usr/local/share/games/openttd/baseset/ it's there 20:49:09 <k4be> but still won't start 20:50:42 <k4be> gentoo tools often breaks things (as in avr-gcc case - source build works, gentoo build does not), but in case of openttd they did good job :) 20:53:36 <szaman> you may use: strace -e open ./openttd 20:53:45 <szaman> to see where the binary try to search 20:55:14 <Alberth> Alternatively, read the donotreadme: http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/readme.txt#L266 20:57:18 <k4be> i just read it for the sixth time :) 20:57:32 <planetmaker> note that there's no search path with *local* in it 20:58:37 <Alberth> k4be: please make a pastebin with what you have where 20:59:23 <k4be> http://wklej.org/id/979978/ looks like it finds some files from baseset (search for "= 4") 21:00:03 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:35 <szaman> and there *is* some *local* paths :] 21:01:44 <szaman> *are* 21:02:49 <Alberth> what .grf files are in that sys-base ? 21:06:02 <k4be> /home/k4be/.openttd/baseset/sys-base/openttd.grf 21:06:15 <k4be> on working system: /usr/share/games/openttd/baseset/openttd.grf 21:06:17 <Alberth> that's not a base set 21:07:56 <Alberth> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/readme.txt#L194 21:08:03 <Alberth> describes base sets 21:08:25 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:08:53 <Alberth> ie zbase, open-gfx, or trg* (the original ttd files) 21:08:56 <Alberth> hi Zuu 21:09:17 <Wolf01> lolwut, how I'm supposed to download 5.3GB @49KB/s? 21:09:18 <Zuu> Hello Alberth 21:09:23 <Wolf01> hi Zuu 21:09:24 <k4be> it seems there is missing share/games/openttd/data directory 21:09:25 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:13:56 <k4be> ok, probably solved, copied /usr/share/games/openttd/data/ from gentoo to /usr/local/share/games/openttd/data/ 21:13:57 <Alberth> base sets don't hide in non-existing directories :) 21:14:12 <k4be> and it seems to start correctly 21:14:49 <DDR> \o/ 21:14:55 <k4be> but i don't know why "make install" did not put it there 21:15:20 <Alberth> make install of what? openttd? 21:15:39 <Alberth> if so, it's because openttd does not come with a base set 21:16:28 <Alberth> you typically share the baseset with all openttd copies, no need to have a new baset set for every openttd install 21:16:48 <Alberth> so most users already have a base set when downloading or building openttd 21:17:00 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:22 <k4be> but in gentoo it did come, also windows users seemed not to have such problems 21:17:28 <TWerkhoven> even on gentoo, the baseset only comes along because emerge has opengfx/sfx/msx as dependencies, they are separate ebuilds 21:18:57 <Rubidium> k4be: sounds like your centos compile is without freetype/fontconfig, so the automatic downloading of base sets when one is missing does not work 21:19:11 <k4be> so why haven't i learned it after reading readme file for 6 times? 21:19:36 <Rubidium> also the windows installer has the option to download a base set (which might even be the default) 21:21:48 *** Wiki [026301ed@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:21:51 <Alberth> k4be: what is missing in the readme file? 21:22:16 <Rubidium> k4be: that freetype+fontconfig are needed for "automatic" downloading of a base set seems to be an omission, however I doubt many people will read it if it is hidden in section 7.1 21:22:35 <Rubidium> which is where it belongs, just like the lzma/zlib 'requirements' 21:23:07 *** Wiki [026301ed@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [] 21:24:09 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.169.69] has joined #openttd 21:24:09 <WOOHOO> "www.iBooter.us - Cheap, Affordable, Strong Output, Dedicated Servers. Best Booter on Market" 21:24:11 *** WOOHOO [~OOHOOW@46.166.169.69] has left #openttd [] 21:24:47 <Wolf01> I do want! Oh, too late 21:25:01 <k4be> so i think configure should say i'm going to have problems :) 21:25:20 <Rubidium> it's not necessarily a problem 21:27:47 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:28 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:33 <Zuu> Once you have a base set in ~/.openttd/baseset you will not have any problem if the bootstrap base set downloading is not working due to missing dependency. 21:41:43 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 21:41:45 <frosch123> night 21:41:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fedd2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:06 <Wolf01> where is hidden the news ticker configuration panel? 22:01:27 <Zuu> You can configure news in advanced settings in 1.3/nightly. 22:01:50 <Alberth> in the advanced settings it is in 22:01:56 <Zuu> Just enter "news" in the advanced settings filter and those settings should probably appear. 22:02:04 <Zuu> (given that you use OpenTTD in English) 22:03:21 *** mathieumaes [~Mathieu@ip-83-101-77-55.customer.schedom-europe.net] has joined #openttd 22:03:46 <mathieumaes> Hi all! I have a question 22:04:01 <mathieumaes> is it possible to reserve a certain station track for certain trains or goods ? 22:04:38 <Wolf01> waypoints http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/24030000/ngbbs4fde12a1a93b4.jpg 22:04:50 <mathieumaes> I have 4 trains loading stuff and 6 trains unloading stuff in the same station with only 4 tracks... I want to make sure that the 4 loading trains don't block all 4 tracks 22:05:05 <Zuu> You can use a waypoint to force all other trains to use the other platforms, and a separate for the trains to use the reserved platforms. 22:05:29 <Zuu> I usually split unloading and loading into two separate stations. 22:05:43 <Zuu> Those have no reason to use the same station ID. 22:06:05 <mathieumaes> I suppose that could work 22:06:11 <mathieumaes> thanks! 22:06:25 <Alberth> it also reduces head-aches about blocking :) 22:07:31 <mathieumaes> yeah 22:07:39 <mathieumaes> but what if you are loading 2 different goods ? 22:08:17 <Alberth> 3 stations? 22:08:28 <Zuu> Either split loading into two stations or use waypoints to restrict access. 22:08:45 <Alberth> loading needs just a few platforms 22:09:02 <Alberth> you can have the other trains waiting in front of it 22:09:08 <Zuu> Eg. use one entry at the left for grain and one entry to the right for liverstock. The grain trains have access to plattform 1 to 4 and livestock is given access to plattform 3 to 6. 22:09:27 <Alberth> at least, if you have enables the advanced/improved loading algorithm 22:09:28 <Wolf01> mmmh, I think I need a setting for "closing of industries served by the player", it desn't seem to be handled by the "production changes of industried served by the player" 22:10:07 <Ristovski> Jokes about german sausages are the wurst 22:10:15 <Alberth> Wolf01: industry closures are all put on one big heap indeed 22:11:31 <Alberth> but in my experience it happens very seldomly that an industry closes on you, just turn on the negative profit warning instead :) 22:12:17 <Wolf01> meh, I have a fruit plantation near a city and already got an alert, so I wanted to know if it closes down 22:14:07 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:45 <Zuu> You can set up a dummy truck that loads fruit from it while building your rail connection. 22:15:30 <Alberth> Wolf01: ah, a warning in the industry window or so? 22:15:43 <Wolf01> no, it closes down because is too near to the city, it doesn't have production problems 22:16:22 <Wolf01> I already blocked the city from that side, but I don't know if it's enough 22:18:17 <Wolf01> nothing that I can't handle by keeping the industry window open minimised, so if it closes, it mean that the industry has gone 22:18:28 <Alberth> I didn't even know it did that :o 22:20:09 *** SigHunter [~sighunter@p57AF3C34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:20 <SigHunter> setting engine_renew is "on" but vehicles dont get renewed automatically when old, using 1.3.0 RC2, is there some other setting required for this to work? 22:22:44 <planetmaker> you gotta have enough money, engines need have possibility to visit depot. and they need still be available 22:23:24 <SigHunter> i have cars that are 20/15 years old, i have 14 million â¬, limit is set to 200k â¬, engine is availlable, renew date is set to 5 22:23:41 <SigHunter> when i send them to depot they drive in and out without anything happening 22:23:54 <Wolf01> maybe they are lazy 22:24:03 <planetmaker> savegame? 22:24:11 <Alberth> try it manually? 22:24:50 <SigHunter> Alberth: you mean send to depot and then press that "renew button"? doesnt do anything either 22:24:59 *** mathieumaes [~Mathieu@ip-83-101-77-55.customer.schedom-europe.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:03 <SigHunter> planetmaker: is this setting savegame dependant? 22:25:15 <SigHunter> it was disabled but i enabled it later with rcon 22:25:15 <planetmaker> yes, fo course. 22:25:19 <SigHunter> crap 22:25:24 <planetmaker> changing it in the main menu won't change it ingame 22:25:36 <planetmaker> only for newly started games 22:25:44 <Alberth> SigHunter: No, I mean drive in, drag/drop the engine yourself 22:25:47 <SigHunter> and even not with rcon? 22:26:05 <Alberth> not if you loaded the game after that 22:26:23 <planetmaker> it's a setting every player can set themselves in MP 22:26:26 <planetmaker> so no rcon needed 22:26:28 <Alberth> but look in the settings to see its status 22:26:56 <planetmaker> thus rcon will be ineffective. It's a per-company setting 22:27:38 <SigHunter> i dont know why i tried it that weird way 22:27:45 <SigHunter> just set it in advanced settings and it works :D 22:27:51 <SigHunter> thought it was some kind of serverside setting 22:39:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:43:30 <Wolf01> "oil refinery decreases production essentially"... what? 22:44:44 <Alberth> 'essentially' is not in the current language files here 22:44:57 <Wolf01> ecs 22:45:40 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:49 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:49:15 <Alberth> I found ecs way too demanding to be much fun 22:51:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:52:08 <planetmaker> Wolf01, he probably means eventually (instead of essentially) 22:53:28 <Alberth> good night 22:55:08 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:35 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:59:32 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:04:47 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 23:05:18 <Wolf01> good night too 23:05:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:06:52 *** SigHunter [~sighunter@p57AF3C34.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 23:07:23 *** CR7 [0250421f@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:07:31 *** St3f [~Anonymous@53577204.cm-6-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:08:19 <CR7> portuga 23:08:49 <CR7> há 23:08:52 <CR7> ? 23:12:00 *** CR7 [0250421f@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [] 23:12:10 *** CR7 [0250421f@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:23:11 *** CR7 [0250421f@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:26:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:35:45 *** chester_ [~chester@128-68-174-185.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:37:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19CB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:11 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:0:6979:842d] has joined #openttd 23:46:17 <Eddi|zuHause> http://i.imgur.com/WBTEwKs.jpg 23:46:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:52:26 <__ln__> might be photoshopped 23:55:50 <Eddi|zuHause> WHAT?!? i was so sure it was a real photo :/