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07:36:51 <V453000> most likely :) 07:36:55 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-78-102-228-126.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 07:37:07 <plantain> I notice the wiki page references a manual 07:37:10 <plantain> but I can't find such a manual 07:38:11 <V453000> not aware of a firs manual either 07:39:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:46:42 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 07:59:05 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 08:01:57 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 08:03:44 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 08:04:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:08:04 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:22:01 <dihedral> greetings 08:23:27 <V453000> elo 08:33:36 <peter1139> brrr 08:34:58 <V453000> moo 08:44:33 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:14 * dihedral pets the cow 08:53:32 * V453000 is happy 08:57:51 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-96-236-139-72.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:58:31 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:04:34 <Terkhen> good morning 09:08:21 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:11:21 <V453000> moo 09:11:23 <V453000> rning 09:12:43 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:13:51 * V453000 demands to be pat 09:15:40 <V453000> or else 09:56:04 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:57:48 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@254-058-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 10:10:14 * planetmaker pats V453000 ;-) and says 'good morning everyone' 10:10:29 <V453000> :P hi 10:19:35 *** driftless [46c283ea@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:22:16 *** driftless [46c283ea@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [] 10:35:41 <dihedral> i need some milk for my coffee ... V453000 ...? 10:36:47 <peter1139> no 10:39:10 <V453000> I didnt say I am a female cow. 10:39:11 <V453000> :) 10:39:19 <V453000> still want my milk? 10:39:43 <peter1139> by definition a cow is female 10:40:11 <dihedral> that must come as a shock to you, V453000 10:40:33 <dihedral> you have no balls :-D 10:40:45 <V453000> duno I always thought cow is the general term which could include bulls eventually 10:41:02 <dihedral> after a sex change, yes 10:41:03 <V453000> transsexual cow, amazing 10:41:03 <V453000> :D 10:41:16 <TinoDidriksen> Bovine is the general term, I think. 10:41:25 <V453000> WELL, cow is confused so no milk 10:42:18 <TinoDidriksen> Hm, or oxen. 10:43:05 <TinoDidriksen> Oh, wrong twice. They're called cattle. 10:43:06 <V453000> Also, I am a special species of a T-Rex Cow. Eggs only 10:44:39 <dihedral> so you can stand straight while walking up mountains? 10:44:55 <V453000> pretty much 10:45:25 <V453000> never tried too many mountains though, spent most of my life in frosch's garage 10:48:32 <peter1139> hmm 10:48:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:48:40 <peter1139> can i have some of what V453000's smoking? it sounds interesting 10:49:29 <V453000> where did you think NUTS comes from 10:49:38 <V453000> aint got no smoking though :( 10:57:38 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 11:04:46 <dihedral> it must be in the air ... 11:06:31 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 11:12:37 *** Maedhros [~maedhros@87.114.159.57] has joined #openttd 11:15:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has joined #openttd 11:17:46 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 11:29:18 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:43:00 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:47:06 <planetmaker> plantain, this is the channel to talk about FIRS 11:48:46 *** goodger [~ben@host86-150-31-253.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:45 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23:38 <HellTiger> any advice how to transport pasengers? maybe only with transfare station? 12:23:55 <HellTiger> from one big city to other big city 12:24:59 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d56fa.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:25:24 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d082bda.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:28:23 <dihedral> planes 12:29:42 <andythenorth> trains 12:29:49 <andythenorth> automobiles 12:31:57 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4d082bda.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:34:33 * ToBeFree suggests trains, preferably on a straight line from A to B, Maglev, with a length of at least 12 fields 12:34:46 <ToBeFree> should be the most profitable way of transporting passengers in vanilla OpenTTD afaik 12:35:09 <ToBeFree> oh, and build the stations *inside* a city if possible; 12:35:17 <ToBeFree> you might need to sacrifice some trees to do that 12:37:28 <ToBeFree> airplanes suck if trains are used correctly, imho 12:38:06 <__ln__> the whole idea of a jet engine is that it sucks in one end 12:38:11 <ToBeFree> xD 12:38:53 <HellTiger> i mean 12:39:02 <HellTiger> i have to transport them as far as possible? 12:39:09 <HellTiger> ToBeFree? 12:47:32 <ToBeFree> ? 12:47:35 <ToBeFree> oh 12:47:46 <ToBeFree> depends on what you want to do 12:48:18 <ToBeFree> if you want to get some money, the distance isn't too important, you will get money anyway and using trains already gives you nice profit 12:49:02 <ToBeFree> if you are extremely rich and have a fast train with nearly 100% reliability, use it for a passenger transport over the whole map.^^ 12:50:31 <ToBeFree> to get 100%, I would suggest using only trains, but the distance is not too important as long as you get a minimum profit of x (I think this was ~20.000â¬; look at the detailed performance rating) 12:51:29 <ToBeFree> getting 100% with trains is quite failsafe but becomes boring before you reached your goal, I think, however 12:52:07 <ToBeFree> you might want to add something like the ECS vectors to make it more interesting 12:53:25 <HellTiger> ecs vectors?! 13:07:18 *** pskosinski [~pskosinsk@0001ae3d.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:16 <andythenorth> always station walk city stations 13:09:26 <andythenorth> use CHIPS, I made tiles in it for doing station walks :P 13:36:41 *** goodger [~ben@host86-150-31-253.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:36:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:38:43 *** dck42 [~noone@164.8.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:38:59 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:39:15 <Belugas> hello 13:40:27 <dck42> hey guys - little problem occured here: I installed ur RC3 yesterday by downloading the deb for Ubuntu precise i386 and installing it through the software manager on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. 13:40:59 <dck42> result: everything worked fine and I played a while, but my whole unity desktop was gone after reboot! 13:41:32 <dck42> I had to reinstall all using "apt-get purge lightdm" and "apt-get install lightdm ubuntu-desktop" 13:41:51 <dck42> "dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" or using "gdm" was NOT working 13:42:06 <HellTiger> sounds pretty serious 13:42:19 <HellTiger> ToBeFree: where is this detailed performance rating 13:43:11 <dck42> yeah - no damage done but wondering how this happened - I guess ottd is installing some display manager? 13:46:09 <HellTiger> dck42: i wont think so 13:46:27 <HellTiger> maybe openttd need a special dependency wich force you to use parts of a other displaymanager or so 13:46:30 <HellTiger> just a idea 13:46:38 <HellTiger> then it tried to fix it 13:46:44 <HellTiger> wich results in uninstalling :D 13:47:13 <HellTiger> you can try debian some day. most of them didnt like the fork ubuntu 13:47:32 <Eddi|zuHause> dck42: sure it's not just you doing something completely unrelated and then forgetting about it? 13:47:52 <dck42> mh 13:49:57 <dck42> Eddi: yes pretty sure I think. I installed it, played it, nothing more. Also there was an error reported by the software manager during installation, but no specifics, just "An error occured". But since all worked I thought, "ok, never mind" 13:50:35 <Eddi|zuHause> dck42: is there some test mode where you can list all the changes it's going to do when you try to install it? 13:50:37 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:51:23 <Eddi|zuHause> might be some obscure dependency going haywire 13:51:47 <Eddi|zuHause> but i have no further knowledge about this stuff 13:52:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66E78.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 13:53:47 <dck42> Eddi: yes that would be nice, but not sure how to preview changes for a "deb" file in Ubuntu 13:54:09 <dck42> Helltiger: I agree that Unity is a cancer! 13:54:16 <dck42> but Ubuntu I like 13:54:35 <HellTiger> hm if you like ubuntu you can just install debian 13:54:47 <dck42> :) 13:54:47 <HellTiger> and some kdm/kde or gdm/gnome you like 13:55:04 <HellTiger> but debian is always a bit behind :| 13:55:10 <HellTiger> for some games it isnt that good 13:55:25 <HellTiger> even some QT didnt work cause its to old 13:56:04 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:58:58 <dck42> I consider Debian being the "pro" Linux 14:00:24 <dck42> but to be honest I kind of migrated to the "dumbest possible user" side, I just dont wonna spend time with my OS, I just wonna click pretty icons and thats it :) 14:01:18 <V453000> you cant say that in this channel! Or unicorn penguins will eat you 14:01:30 <dck42> haha :) 14:02:39 <Flygon> Voraphillic unicorn penguins... 14:02:49 <Flygon> It is my duty, as a furry, to see this drawn! 14:03:10 * Flygon runs off to the shadows, once more 14:08:17 <dck42> mmhhh that leaves me puzzled regarding the expression "to see sth drawn" - never heard that, does it mean "to see sth happen"?? :-) 14:08:46 <dck42> does it mean the unicorn penguins are coming after me now?? ;) 14:08:59 <V453000> given that you are a drawing freak who takes his drawings as "happening", yes 14:09:02 <V453000> :P 14:09:15 <HellTiger> in city info, is the max passengers number the one wich tell me how may passengers the city will accept if i deliver them? 14:09:18 <V453000> either way penguins are coming 14:09:30 <dck42> haha 14:09:38 <V453000> HellTiger: no, it accepts endless amount. It is amount produced by the city 14:10:12 <HellTiger> ah 14:28:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has joined #openttd 14:52:17 <HellTiger> ho do i add fast to some cloned trains aditional waggons? 14:53:02 <V453000> you dont 14:53:07 <V453000> aka manually 14:53:38 <V453000> if you still have them in the depot then probably quickest way is to sell them all but one and just redo it 14:54:30 <HellTiger> ok 14:55:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:58:35 <HellTiger> should i focus early on valuables`? 14:59:06 <Ristovski> HellTiger: naah, transporting valuables doesnt give you much profit 14:59:12 <HellTiger> hmm 14:59:20 <V453000> doesnt really matter but I dont think banks can grow anywhere to a nice production so I consider them quite worthless 14:59:34 <Ristovski> yeah 14:59:51 <V453000> any of the normal cargoes or even passengers or mail is a good start 15:00:19 <HellTiger> my biggest city has now 3600 15:00:21 <HellTiger> people. 15:00:22 <Ristovski> coal -> power plant is the quickest way to make profit imo, to it's best with trains 15:00:29 <HellTiger> yes 15:00:55 <V453000> if you do a goods route well, it isnt too far behind 15:00:59 <V453000> but yes coal is easiest 15:01:34 <Ristovski> I have 4 billion on my server from like 5 planes, 13 trains and 2 boats xD 15:01:57 <Ristovski> all trains are transporting coal, so yeah, go with that 15:02:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:43 <V453000> money is irellevant after about 30 minutes of playing 15:03:54 <Ristovski> yeah 15:04:12 <V453000> if your settings is expensive then perhaps longer than 30 minutes, but the logic stays the same, you just waste more time by waiting for having money 15:04:28 <Zuu> In a current game there is a section with double tracks that adds up to 8 tracks for a strong slope up to the factory which is at the top of a mountain. Thats more fun for me than making money on a uniform coal transporting train fleet. :-) 15:04:53 <V453000> :) 15:05:20 <Ristovski> lol 15:06:20 <Zuu> In this game I also play by the rule "make simple level intersections and only expand when the capacity is reached for the current solution" 15:06:38 <Ristovski> hmm, are there any color codes for the multiplayer chat? 15:06:40 <V453000> why would you ever expand when it isnt needed zuu :D 15:06:51 <Ristovski> since ottd has like 16 colors 15:07:16 <V453000> each company has its own colour name in chat? 15:07:34 <Zuu> V453000: Because some like to make double track solutions with lots of tracks and no trains. Or to make symetric solutions without caring about that the demand is not symetric. 15:08:36 <Zuu> Yes, each company uses its own color in the chat 15:08:54 <Ristovski> V453000: I know that 15:09:11 <Zuu> Although that is just the company/player name that get colored. The message remain in white IIRC. 15:09:38 <Zuu> Unless I play with my patched OpenTTD version that color code town names and allow clicking on them. :-) 15:11:00 <V453000> colourful message would not keep quite good readability im afraid :P 15:12:17 <Zuu> Indeed, IIRC each OpenTTD client will reject color codes in received chat messages. So any such thing needs a modified client. 15:12:55 <Ristovski> ah 15:26:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@rubberductions.plus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:45:42 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:46:52 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 15:56:13 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:02:23 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:07 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@000128eb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: /set quit_message] 16:05:26 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@000128eb.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:21 <Zuu> Hmm the acronym of StoryPageItemType doesn't sound too good. 16:07:02 <Rubidium> is spet better? 16:07:25 <Zuu> A bit better 16:07:28 <V453000> Etem? 16:07:31 <V453000> :P 16:07:33 <Zuu> Element? 16:07:44 <Rubidium> or entry? 16:07:54 <Rubidium> or sppt (paragraph) 16:08:09 <Zuu> If a goal or location can be a paragraph. 16:08:26 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:37 <Zuu> sppt - page part 16:11:03 <Zuu> Why does naming always get in the way of coding :-p 16:12:58 <V453000> just call it YAT yet another thing 16:14:40 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:15:53 *** Maedhros_ [~maedhros@87.115.34.226] has joined #openttd 16:20:43 *** Maedhros [~maedhros@87.114.159.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:55 <HellTiger> now after some basics, whats about multiplayer? do you just build/detroy in the way other players? 16:26:00 <HellTiger> i think its not turn based :D 16:26:23 <V453000> on my end, I always try to disturb others as low as possible 16:26:34 <V453000> and I enforce that behaviour on our server accordingly 16:27:03 <V453000> solves all issues with people raging who was where first 16:27:25 <V453000> apart from having generally nice, friendly and peaceful environment 16:28:16 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ac158d4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:39:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:40:43 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:19 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-42-185.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:51:44 <LordAro> heyo 16:59:26 <HellTiger> can i fast replace railway to powered railway? 17:01:11 <frosch123> the icon on the right 17:06:13 <HellTiger> frosch123: then all connected will converted complete? 17:08:03 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:08:17 <frosch123> it's an area drag tool 17:08:50 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/Convert_rail 17:11:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AA5F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:25 <HellTiger> ah. 17:11:34 <HellTiger> i forgot i could make huge rectangle 17:13:25 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-053-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 17:15:25 *** Maedhros_ [~maedhros@87.115.34.226] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:18:15 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:24:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:24:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:05 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 17:35:28 <HellTiger> hm. i try to replace trains, diesel to electric, i send all my trains to depot, converted all rail (with one over map square) now i start replacing, nothing happens, so i launched them all together over train list, still no replacing! 17:35:53 <HellTiger> they just driving as diesel 17:35:57 <HellTiger> pretty long in fast forward. 17:36:31 <HellTiger> frosch123! :> 17:36:32 <ToBeFree> you need to tell the game which replacement you want 17:36:42 <ToBeFree> and imho, don't ping random people ;-) 17:36:50 <ToBeFree> 1. open the vehicle list 17:36:57 <ToBeFree> 2. click the replacement icon 17:37:03 <ToBeFree> 3. select the replacement and enable it 17:37:13 <ToBeFree> done, now send them all to the depot for maintenance 17:38:06 <ToBeFree> oh, and check if the maintenance is blocked by the "minimum money" option in Advanced settings 17:38:31 <ToBeFree> iirc, the default is at ~200.000â¬, so if you have less, the replacement order is ignored 17:38:57 <HellTiger> i had start the replace over the list 17:39:02 <HellTiger> picked the two train types 17:39:07 <HellTiger> but it didnt worked yet 17:41:18 <ToBeFree> how much money do you have? 17:41:53 <HellTiger> 1,6 millioin tokai|noir 17:41:57 <HellTiger> ToBeFree: i mean. 17:42:03 <HellTiger> EURO 17:42:03 <ToBeFree> 1,6 millions of anything should be enough afaik 17:42:15 <HellTiger> i try now 17:42:16 <ToBeFree> except Yen maybe 17:42:21 <HellTiger> first convert trains to electric 17:42:22 <ToBeFree> ^^ 17:42:25 <HellTiger> then convert rails 17:42:44 <ToBeFree> no; the order shouldn't matter 17:42:57 <ToBeFree> if it doesn't work, there is another problem 17:43:10 <HellTiger> now they are waiting all in depot 17:43:23 <HellTiger> replacement should work, it worked all the time for steam to diesel 17:43:36 <HellTiger> i know how it works, but for now i can imaginate 17:43:45 <HellTiger> trains have to leave rails and cant go back 17:43:52 <HellTiger> until rails are converted to electric 17:45:11 <HellTiger> hmmm no i even cant convert them back to steam 17:46:23 <HellTiger> also last time they replaced automaticly, i didnt needed to send them to depot. 17:47:13 <HellTiger> i forgot the waggon replace 17:49:11 <HellTiger> on some train types the convert without further actions wont work 17:49:21 <HellTiger> i can fall back to steam and diesel, wagon replace on, 17:49:29 <HellTiger> but the same mechanic didnt work for electric. 17:51:37 <HellTiger> hm now it works sorry. 17:51:43 <HellTiger> take much time even in fast forward. 17:58:24 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 17:58:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:08:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19505.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:12:00 <Zuu> Will anyone want to use a generic (and translated) page title: "Page {NUM}" in their Story Book or will everyone use a custom title that they need to ofer translations for themself? 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19:14:03 <HellTiger> they react different. 19:37:05 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 19:37:05 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:48:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host49-232-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:49:00 <Wolf01> hello 19:50:06 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 19:50:24 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:55:25 <HellTiger> man i love games with console. 19:57:49 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:51 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:27 <frosch123> did you try xterm? :) 20:02:46 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:16 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:41 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:07:53 <HellTiger> frosch123: i use screen under windows with cygwin 20:08:06 <HellTiger> doing backup and sync stuff with rsync 20:13:50 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:06 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-74-143.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:16:06 *** adamt [~adam@93-166-250-82-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:53 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:34 <Zuu> HellTiger: Signals have the same function independent of track type 20:27:42 <HellTiger> ok 20:27:58 <Zuu> You can even use a maglev track to rely a signal from one part of your tracks to another part. 20:29:06 <Zuu> The check if a block is occupied do not care about track types. Thus maglev can be used like a signal cable when you use regular tracks. 20:29:25 <Zuu> (if you do insane stuff with block based signals) 20:30:03 *** adamt [~adam@vpn-nat.statsbiblioteket.dk] has joined #openttd 20:31:41 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:37:05 <HellTiger> to highskill right now 20:37:13 <HellTiger> still having much fun with basics 20:37:18 <HellTiger> i started about 30 times or so 20:39:25 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:43:39 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.174.70] has joined #openttd 21:00:05 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25123 trunk/src/widget.cpp (2013-03-25 20:59:59 UTC) 21:00:06 <DorpsGek> -Fix: when the count for a scrollbar was 0, the inter distance was subtracted too much causing a scrollbar with a negative size 21:01:13 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:30 <andythenorth> lo 21:07:07 <Zuu> Alternative B is starting to work now: http://devs.openttd.org/~zuu/goal-gui/story-book-alternative-b.png 21:07:36 <Zuu> I "just" need to work on rendering of location/goals and detecting cilicks. :-) 21:08:27 <Zuu> The image above use the same structure as posted yesterday in this image: https://secure.openttd.org/wiki/images/e/ea/Alternative-b-and-c.png 21:09:24 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:09:46 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:10:53 <Zuu> People who use scroll wheels, when a list have content (eg. images) that cause some lines to have a different line height, is it still prefered that the scroll bar works in steps of a normal line height? 21:11:44 <Zuu> I have one option to allocate height for goals/locations in multiple of line_height. That however could give silly results in some combinations of GUI zoom and text size. 21:12:30 <Zuu> Another option is to compute the total height in pixels and then divide by line_height to get an aproximate number of line-equivalents to pass to the scrollbar as how many lines tall the content is. 21:12:44 <V453000> o_O 21:13:02 <Zuu> The later may cause cut of lines at the bottom of the window. 21:13:39 <Zuu> (which is common outside of OpenTTD, but is not used in other OpenTTD windows to my knownledge) 21:14:47 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:34 <Zuu> Hello V453000 :-) 21:15:41 <V453000> hi :) 21:15:56 <Wolf01> the first would be good, as match with TT style, but I know how much work there is behind, the second one is fixable by adding the remainder to the last interval after the division 21:16:49 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:54 <Zuu> The first works if images are about a multiple of the line height or slightly smaller. 21:18:53 <Zuu> What will look silly is if the image is slightly taller than X * line_height. Especially if X == 1. 21:21:46 <Zuu> I think I'll go for the first solution now. As you say it is closer to the TT style. If it sucks it can be changed later. 21:22:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:28:36 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:31 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:36:47 <HellTiger> i still dont understand this station hopping, how far is it possible? 21:39:13 <andythenorth> there is an advanced setting for maximum station spread 21:39:30 <andythenorth> that controls how big a station can be / how far you can walk one 21:43:24 <HellTiger> ah 21:43:33 <HellTiger> thx 21:48:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66E78.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 21:49:13 <andythenorth> FIRS translations? o_O 21:49:19 <andythenorth> April 1 gets nearer... 21:50:17 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:50:35 <V453000> andythenorth: wtf translation to be done? or ? :D 21:51:00 <andythenorth> V453000: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/LATEST/translations/ 21:51:26 <andythenorth> oh looky, bundles built the documenation (prototype) :o 21:51:27 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/LATEST/docs/set_overview.html 21:51:29 <andythenorth> :) 21:51:47 <V453000> ho :) 21:52:26 <V453000> hmmm czech not too complete, but I really, really, really do not want to do that :( 21:52:37 <frosch123> night 21:52:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d56fa.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56:29 <V453000> me too, bai 21:58:21 *** Superuser [~superuser@host81-129-87-222.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:58:38 <Superuser> help 21:58:41 <Superuser> help please 21:58:49 <Superuser> http://wiki.openttd.org/Console#Server_commands 21:59:00 <Superuser> aaanyone here 21:59:31 <Fira> nope 22:00:15 <Superuser> I need someone to help me with this server business 22:02:04 <Superuser> oh nvm 22:02:10 <Superuser> sorry for disturbing you 22:02:47 <Superuser> I underestimated the power and ease of use of the OpenTTD server application 22:03:15 *** adamt [~adam@vpn-nat.statsbiblioteket.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:05 <Wolf01> 'night 22:07:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:09:03 <HellTiger> how often you generate world until you pick it :P 22:10:47 <HellTiger> there was some where a time based profit table for a unit i think, 22:10:57 <HellTiger> cant remember 22:14:12 <dck42> guys, can I ask a dumb question? (of course Im gonna ask it anyways, but I wanted to draw some attention) 22:15:42 <dck42> the whole openttd team, the ways its organised in sub-projects etc - how did that originate? More specifically: if I want to try to establish sth similar for a web idea, where would u start? 22:15:57 <andythenorth> it's not dumb 22:16:01 <andythenorth> it's not a simple answer though 22:16:12 <dck42> thx :) 22:16:30 <Superuser> define web idea, dck42 22:16:34 <andythenorth> afaict, a lot of the ottd 'team' came together via tt-forums 22:16:38 <Superuser> tyou want to start an open source project? 22:16:53 <Superuser> that relates to the WWW? 22:17:05 <dck42> web idea: implementing a web app for some kind of creative exchange 22:17:10 <dck42> yes www 22:17:15 <dck42> yes 22:17:22 <dck42> (@ Superuser) 22:17:34 <Superuser> lol, irc is not twitter but thanks 22:17:40 <andythenorth> you need a team to build the app? 22:17:48 <andythenorth> or to be the people on the exchange? 22:17:50 <Superuser> basically, you can find an artist in a day 22:17:59 <Superuser> programmers for an open source project, not so easy 22:18:06 <dck42> well yes, its about gathering a team but also about finding a neat way to organise it and keep it alive 22:18:12 <Superuser> I'd recommend the book Open Ideas by Lydia Pintscher though 22:18:18 <Superuser> and other open source notables 22:18:42 <Superuser> oh Open Advice my bad 22:18:50 <Superuser> http://open-advice.org/ 22:18:58 <Superuser> absolute gold for what you wanna do, free dl as well 22:19:22 <dck42> mh ok thx for that already - a platform (sth like crowdsourcing) to originate such a cooperative u know of? 22:19:30 <dck42> ok! 22:19:54 <Superuser> crowdsourcing... what do you mean by that? 22:20:58 <dck42> :) I mean there are countless pages for gathering money or ideas for a project - is there sth more or less well known for gathering ppl to implement an open source project? 22:20:58 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 22:22:05 <Superuser> oh uhh sort of 22:22:09 <Superuser> there is openhatch 22:22:14 <Superuser> but that's for really big projects 22:22:47 <Superuser> like the python programming language, though that's had mixed success on there due to the high barrier of entry (C, plus it's a goddamn programming language) 22:23:03 <Superuser> other than that GitHub is becoming the de facto source code host 22:23:13 <Superuser> I feel its interface is very conductive to attracting developers 22:23:24 <Superuser> e.g. showing you the code and languages upfront 22:24:28 <dck42> mh mh i c - I kind of did not feel it could draw ppl to ur project but perhaps? The thing is I wouldnt need too many. Two more programmers, 1 artist and 3-4 support admins 22:24:34 <dck42> sth like that to start with 22:25:11 <Superuser> are you involved in any open source project already? You could try asking them (or programmer friends) 22:25:15 <dck42> heck u could even start with just one more guy and keep graphics to minimum 22:25:19 <Superuser> that works very well 22:25:40 <Superuser> as for graphic designers (that's what you mean by artists, right? Unless you're doing a game) DeviantArt is your go-to place 22:25:47 <Superuser> you can find an artist in a day I said 22:25:59 <Superuser> as for support admins you will probably have to pay ;_; 22:26:10 <dck42> well the thing is: im a scientific programmer at a university (c++) and all my friends and colleagues feel like sth like this would be... dunno, below their radar 22:26:31 <Superuser> oh god C++ 22:26:33 <Superuser> THE HORROR 22:26:37 <dck42> haha 22:26:47 <Superuser> protip: don't use C++ for your webapp ;_; 22:26:52 <Superuser> that said, hmm 22:26:52 <dck42> yes C++, multi-inheritance cp11 project 22:26:57 <Superuser> you identified a gap there 22:27:02 <Superuser> what about a C++ web framework 22:27:13 <Superuser> they are more or less nonexistent, or at least, they are not very good 22:27:23 <dck42> nah im using code igniter to build a small hirarchical mvc framework for my web app 22:27:41 <dck42> its neat but its hard to do all on ur own 22:28:12 <Superuser> interesting 22:28:17 <Superuser> but yeah read that book, it's short 22:28:24 <Superuser> I read it on my phone while commuting 22:28:45 <dck42> ok im gonna! Im kind of missing the insider knowledge and feelin where to get some ppl who are interested and decent programmers 22:28:47 <Superuser> get FBReader off the Play Store if you have an Android device, you will be sooo much stamrter 22:29:03 <Superuser> I would suggest that book, has everything you need to know about organising a project 22:29:13 <Superuser> and some seemingly unrelated parts like how to read a traceback lol 22:29:17 <Superuser> but it's good 22:29:25 <dck42> :-) 22:29:43 <dck42> well tracebacks u know well if u use cpp :) 22:30:15 <dck42> no better language to implement almost untraceable mem leaks 22:30:32 <Superuser> but yeah 5/5 book, most important section I find was the one about the person's failed project 22:30:40 <Superuser> he set up a website, contribution guides, stuff like that 22:30:48 <Superuser> wanted to make a powepoint-like program 22:30:55 <Superuser> and had a design doc, everything... 22:30:57 <Superuser> EXCEPT CODE 22:31:11 <Superuser> so make sure that when you launch, you have some code to go with it 22:31:23 <Superuser> I think the Discourse launch was an exemplary one 22:31:26 <Superuser> they had a demo up 22:31:29 <dck42> interesting 22:31:39 <Superuser> heard of Discourse? Or 'Forum 2.0' 22:31:47 <dck42> no 22:32:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19505.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:38 <Superuser> it's by Jeff Attwood 22:32:56 <Superuser> so yeah for your mvc framework you want to have example code and stuff 22:33:04 <Superuser> when you announce it 22:33:58 <dck42> mh yes interesting - I know of such an example too, I think the problem is u should not and cannot start until u have some base code and at least one programmer 22:34:12 <dck42> but that would be given in my case 22:36:03 <Superuser> because... you are the programmer? lol 22:36:16 <dck42> basically I have my HMVC and some base modules - now I would give out the modules and say work on their code or create some new missing modules. Later u would give out the graphic stuff and language files in the same way. 22:36:25 <dck42> yes ;) 22:37:39 <dck42> The only thing that really makes me worry is the frontend: AJAX stuff.. somehow I feel that the "view" part in an mvc is still quiet messy and interlinked with the rest and doing AJAX stuff means u need deep knowledge of the "model" part etc 22:38:15 <dck42> I think finding a fronted person will be very very hard 22:38:37 <dck42> And I have no clue of javascript, jquery and alike - and I dont wonna learn it 22:39:43 <planetmaker> dck42, it all started with a person eager enough and with enough time at his hands to get something working 22:39:55 <planetmaker> and being open enough about what he did, allowing others to chime in 22:39:59 <Superuser> yeah JS is awful :( 22:40:00 <planetmaker> the rest grew. 22:40:12 <Superuser> though if you can understand cpp it should be no trouble, hehe 22:40:16 <Superuser> dart is nice 22:40:20 <Superuser> it compiles down to js 22:40:24 <Superuser> and introduces lots of features 22:40:35 <Superuser> Google Dart, 5/5 22:40:43 *** intrigue [~intrigue@0001b36b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 22:41:09 <Superuser> * especially if you know Java or Smalltalk 22:41:26 <Superuser> or something smalltalk-like like Ruby, it is heavily OO like that 22:41:45 <Superuser> TL;DR: JavaScript is quickly becoming the assembly language of the web 22:42:07 <Superuser> everyone is writing assembly... but very few people directly (jQuery reimplements like half the language anyway) 22:46:54 <dck42> yes interesting thoughts Superuser 22:47:38 <dck42> planetmaker: yes ur right - Im kind of missing the time to do all I guess. But we'll see 22:48:12 <Superuser> well, most open source projects are one man projects for a while 22:48:24 <Superuser> unless you can put at least half the effort in yourself... no cigar 22:48:52 <Superuser> if you're new to open source I'd suggest contributing to someone else's project so you get a feel for the development model 22:49:01 <Superuser> like something you use every day, that's the best one 22:49:26 <Superuser> for instance, the best chess site on the net (http://lichess.org - fully free, no ads, anonymous play, fully open source) 22:50:13 <Superuser> (and so HTML5 it hurts - backend = Scala + Play framework - used to use PHP with Symfony2 but it didn't scale well at all) 22:50:24 <Superuser> ok that's enough plugging of lichess :) 22:53:21 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@000128eb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: /set quit_message] 22:53:23 <Zuu> Oh, and there we go: http://devs.openttd.org/~zuu/goal-gui/story-book-alternative-b-2.png :-) 22:54:35 <Zuu> Clicking anywhere on the lines occupied by an item will trigger its action. 22:54:57 <Zuu> Maybe it should have horizontal lines as to get a more TTD-ish look. 22:55:46 <Superuser> wow 22:55:51 <Superuser> is that for real or just am ockup 22:55:56 <Zuu> It is real 22:56:00 <Superuser> also it would be 5/5 if goals can be named 22:56:02 <Superuser> omg i came 22:56:15 <dck42> hm hm :) I definitely feel it would be nice to help out other projects first - but there we go with the time issue again :) 22:56:19 <Superuser> when is that feature coming 22:56:44 <Zuu> Superuser: As soon as it is done, reviewed and ready to be included 22:57:03 <Superuser> will it be possible to name goals? 22:57:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:57:18 <Zuu> Goals can be named currently 22:57:23 <Zuu> I mean in trunk. 22:58:11 <Zuu> The progress thingy and ability to mark goals as done is a patchc that floats around at the bottom of my goal-GUI patch queue. 22:58:32 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-053-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 22:59:01 <Zuu> While I could include the second column in the Story book, it might be enough to just have a different icon for completed goals. 23:02:56 <Superuser> omg omg omg omg help 23:03:08 <Superuser> how can I set parameters for a server hgame 23:03:14 <Superuser> like for map generation 23:03:44 <Superuser> we want to start a new game as it is kind of f****d up on a 256 * 256 map 23:04:03 <Superuser> how can I set different parameters for map generation? only the dedicated server works btw, dunno why 23:04:59 <Superuser> well, this is 1.23, but basically I've run it through the terminal and it tries to set up an IPv6 connection when creating a server from the GUI. It does this with the -D flag too, but then it moves on to IPv4 23:05:30 <Superuser> _______________________________________________ 23:05:49 <Superuser> so how do I set parameters for map generation on the server? 23:06:33 <dck42> bb guys thx for the advice! 23:06:36 *** dck42 [~noone@164.8.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:09:28 <andythenorth> bye 23:09:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 23:15:16 <Zuu> Superuser: If you apply patch 10, 20 and 30 you will have the functionality shown earlier: http://devs.openttd.org/~zuu/goal-gui/ . To actually use it you will also need a GS that add pages and page elements to the pages. 23:16:43 <Zuu> It might work out of the box without patch 10 for the moment. 23:17:37 <Superuser> so uhh 23:17:56 <Superuser> do you have an answer to my question Zuu? ^^ 23:18:32 <Zuu> About map generation parameters? 23:18:52 <Superuser> yes 23:19:44 <Zuu> Make a map on your client, save it and upload to the server. That is usually the easiest way. But if you think you found a bug, try with trunk or see if the bug has been reported. If not report it to bugs.openttd.org. 23:21:11 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:27 *** codl [~codl@codl.fr] has joined #openttd 23:24:17 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:24:53 <Superuser> ok thx 23:24:57 <Superuser> you are a baws 23:39:08 <Superuser> hey umm Zuu sorry to be an ass, but how can you change starting money 23:39:19 <Superuser> and maximum denbs allowed 23:39:22 <Superuser> debts* 23:39:30 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-97-49.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 23:39:30 <Zuu> Its in the advanced settings in 1.3 / trunk. 23:39:46 <Zuu> For 1.2.3 you find it in the difficulty settings. 23:40:43 <Superuser> ok thanks bro 23:42:47 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-42-185.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:47:34 *** Superuser [~superuser@host81-129-87-222.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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