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04:07:42  <Supercheese> http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/colorado-town-considers-licensing-bounty-hunters-to-shoot-down-drones/
04:07:53  <Supercheese> "Shooters must use shotguns, 12-gauge or smaller, firing lead, steel or depleted uranium ammunition..."
04:08:04  <Supercheese> Where on earth would anyone get depleted uranium?!
04:11:18  <SamanthaD> Supercheese: out of a nuclear reactor I imagine
04:19:16  <Supercheese> I would be very surprised if there were depleted uranium shotgun shells
04:21:43  <Supercheese> Well dang, there are
04:22:54  <SamanthaD> I don't know why anyone in their right mind would USE them
04:23:03  <SamanthaD> well... they're heavier than lead but...
04:23:09  <SamanthaD> seriously, they'll ruin your shotgun >.>
04:23:41  <SamanthaD> course... there's other (obvious) reasons why they should ban DU in ammo
04:36:14  <Supercheese> Then again, it mostly appears to be an April fool's joke
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04:38:14  <SamanthaD> :p
04:38:27  <SamanthaD> still... the idea of idiots spraying around DU all over the place is worrying
04:39:45  <SamanthaD> Ugh... I need to learn CPP
04:40:32  <Supercheese> Chill's PatchPack is old  :P
04:40:43  <SamanthaD> yup
04:41:03  <SamanthaD> so is the patch I'm trying to apply
04:41:10  <SamanthaD> hence... why I need a crash course in C++
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05:16:54  <SamanthaD> WOOT! let's see if this compiles :3
05:17:05  <SamanthaD> what fun when modifying code blindly >.<
05:17:15  <Supercheese> I find it fun
05:17:23  <Supercheese> "Let's comment this out, see what happens"
05:17:31  <SamanthaD> oh right... comments...
05:17:40  <SamanthaD> I just went ape with backspace :p
05:18:12  <SamanthaD> I've always got `svn revert` if I need it ;)
05:18:26  <SamanthaD> and I kept the .mine and .theirs files
05:18:58  <SamanthaD> most of the errors seemed to just be line numbers getting messed up
05:19:38  <SamanthaD> but yeah, I'm not a C++ programmer and this is the first time I've looked at OpenTTD code so...
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05:20:56  <SamanthaD> once I worked out some of the basic syntax things started to make sense
05:21:25  <SamanthaD> when I first looked at it I thought that the -> operator was something akin to a bind operator or a pipe
05:21:42  <SamanthaD> and I went "OH GOD SPAGHETTI CODE!" *dies*
05:26:23  <SamanthaD> woot! It just compiled the file that I sorta coin-flipped on the revision
05:26:51  <SamanthaD> HA! Fist time!
05:26:54  <SamanthaD> no errors n_n
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05:32:44  <Supercheese> Any edits, or just raw source?
05:37:30  <SamanthaD> I didn't do any coding but... I had to pay homage to the svn gods
05:37:35  <SamanthaD> just a merge
05:38:03  <SamanthaD> I patched the STS_V60_r24032.diff patch into current
05:38:04  <planetmaker> moin
05:38:08  <SamanthaD> dunno if I did a very good job though
05:38:13  <SamanthaD> it seems to be running...
05:38:35  <SamanthaD> and it seems to do what it's supposed to do but...
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06:06:21  <SamanthaD> blah... the patch doesn't work as well as I thought it might have
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06:06:22  <SamanthaD> oh well
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06:54:09  <Xaroth|Work> morning
06:55:06  <SamanthaD> morning!
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07:58:13  <Supercheese> Good lord, some terrifying lightning strikes here
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07:58:31  <Supercheese> I'm glad all our power lines and such are underground
07:59:20  <SamanthaD> ours aren't
07:59:32  <SamanthaD> if the lightning is bad enough I just open the breakers
08:00:19  <Supercheese> I'll probably shut down soon, just to be safe
08:01:12  <SamanthaD> when the storms come I switch to battery :3
08:01:15  <roboboy> I wonder how hard it is to hack a png so that it uses a different TT palette than the one it uses
08:02:20  <roboboy> am off to whatch the news
08:06:24  <SamanthaD> *headdesks*
08:06:59  * Supercheese advises the use of the /me command next time ;)
08:07:19  <SamanthaD> I just deleted all my saves and other OpenTTD data and my custom patched binary 'cuz I thought it was glitching
08:07:33  <Supercheese> Quick, Ctrl+Z!
08:07:33  <SamanthaD> apparently it wasn't OpenTTD that was glitching
08:08:10  <SamanthaD> apparently a problem with the OS where if you look at it crosseyed (as in, put the slightest load on it) it crawls to a halt
08:08:14  <SamanthaD> but... I think I fixed it
08:08:38  <SamanthaD> it did a good imitation of a memory leak though :p
08:08:57  * SamanthaD waits for it to recompile <.<
08:24:02  <SamanthaD> I'm actually really impressed at how lean the OpenTTD codebase is
08:33:30  * SamanthaD is sleepy. Night everyone.
08:33:36  <Supercheese> 'night
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09:45:06  <__ln__> is anyone aware of any protocol for reading timestamp from a realtime clock connected to a serial port?
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10:06:45  <andreh> hi
10:07:02  <andreh> finger
10:07:16  <andreh> (Y)
10:07:34  <andreh> help
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10:15:37  <Xaroth|Work> __ln__: man 4 rtc like ?
10:18:32  <__ln__> hmm, that would seem to ignore the details of how the rtc is actually accessed.
10:19:34  <__ln__> what i'm looking for is something like "i send XYZ to a serial port and get the current timestamp in a certain format".
10:19:49  <__ln__> but it's possible such protocol does not exist.
10:20:14  <Eddi|zuHause> i'd expect that to be in the documentation of the clock
10:20:27  <Xaroth|Work> iirc most real-time-clocks send the data in a regular interval
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10:20:33  <Xaroth|Work> but I've not had -tha-t much experience with them
10:21:30  <Eddi|zuHause> there's DCF-77
10:22:23  <Eddi|zuHause> which is the format used by "radio clocks"
10:22:39  <blathijs> DCF-77 is the actual over-the-air protocol, right?
10:22:45  <Eddi|zuHause> yes
10:22:53  <Eddi|zuHause> basically, every second you transmit one bit
10:23:16  <blathijs> __ln__: I think there's the NMEA protocol for GPS devices which also includes an accurate time
10:23:29  <blathijs> Eddi|zuHause: Yeah, with short and long bursts of low amplitude
10:23:42  * blathijs built a DCF receiver from scratch once :-)
10:24:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i just read up on it when i was reverse-engineering a timestamp format. which then turned out to be excel-float-thingie
10:26:58  <__ln__> my use case would be building an rtc that connects to a pc through arduino. if it used a commonly known protocol, perhaps software for reading the time would already exist for various OSes.
10:30:03  <Eddi|zuHause> well, besides DCF-77 the only time-related thing i know is NTP
10:32:26  <__ln__> the problem with DCF-77 is that it doesn't work too well over here.
10:36:55  <Xaroth|Work> lol, found a funny project: https://github.com/nlhans/OpenTTDStats/tree/master/OpenTTDStatsLive
10:37:16  <Xaroth|Work> byte scanning to get the information
10:37:31  <Xaroth|Work> elaborate way of not looking at the admin port/nogo tbqfh :P
10:37:59  <peter1139> o_O
10:38:26  <Xaroth|Work> that about sums up my reaction when I saw it
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12:44:29  <Belugas> hello
12:45:00  <__ln__> hola
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13:30:13  <Alberth> o/
13:30:20  <Xaroth|Work> o/
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13:49:40  <planetmaker> \o
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16:00:33  <LordAro> heyo
16:01:00  <LordAro> ooh, chrome v30 :)
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17:27:18  <Wolf01> o/
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17:32:59  <Wolf01> http://www.brothers-brick.com/2013/07/15/i-know-nut-zing-awesome-lego-hogans-heroes-diorama-by-brian-williams/ ç_ç I want it
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17:45:51  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25616 /trunk/src/lang (6 files) (2013-07-17 17:45:39 UTC)
17:45:52  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:53  <DorpsGek> french - 3 changes by MagicBuzz
17:45:54  <DorpsGek> german - 1 changes by Jogio
17:45:55  <DorpsGek> japanese - 10 changes by guppy
17:45:56  <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by junho2813
17:45:57  <DorpsGek> polish - 31 changes by p0358
17:45:58  <DorpsGek> turkish - 6 changes by wakeup
18:04:34  <Alberth> o/
18:07:09  <frosch123> moin Alberth :)
18:07:30  <Xaroth|Work> O/
18:08:45  <Rubidium> FS#4934 keeps bugging me
18:09:25  <Rubidium> I really wonder whether the "problem" can be solved at all
18:10:17  <Rubidium> mostly because we can't do the old vs new image check anymore, which means more UpdateVehicleViewport calls which iterates over all windows to mark them dirty
18:10:51  <Rubidium> at least in my simple test it became slower with caching than without
18:11:21  <frosch123> maybe a client-side flag in the vehicle, which says whether it is visible in any viewport?
18:11:58  <Rubidium> would that require doing the same 'in a viewport' check every movement?
18:12:02  <Rubidium> +not
18:12:05  <frosch123> set by the viewport when drawing the vehicle, and cleared every 256 frames or so
18:13:02  <frosch123> the goal would be that the flag is not set when a vehicle is definitely not in a viewport
18:13:08  <frosch123> and set if it is maybe in a viewport
18:13:20  <frosch123> (i.e. not considering overlapping windows etc)
18:13:25  <Rubidium> but then you can't clear it
18:13:45  <frosch123> clear it for all vehciles every few seconds
18:14:07  <frosch123> and set it during viewport drawing if the vehicle is nearby the viewport bounds
18:14:22  <Rubidium> at least, if at frame 256 it's cleared it won't be reset (set to true) until there is a reason to draw that part of the image. Since the vehicle is not "in the viewport", that part won't be dirtied
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18:14:54  <Rubidium> and as a result the vehicle moves without updating the screen
18:15:00  <Rubidium> even though in the viewport
18:15:37  <frosch123> hmm, ok, so we need to check all viewports every few ticks wrt. what vehicles are visible and set/clear the flag
18:15:46  <frosch123> independent of redrawing
18:16:27  <Rubidium> which makes it kinda pointless
18:16:51  <frosch123> well, it would not resolve any viewport diryting or sprite reslving
18:16:57  <frosch123> it would only use the position hash
18:17:20  <frosch123> s/resolve/do/
18:17:20  <Rubidium> also, since the previous sprite (ID) is not checked against the new one, it will dirty and thus redraw more often than needed
18:18:26  <frosch123> ok, then let's call GetImage for all vehicles in parallel using 4 threads :p
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18:18:56  <frosch123> only need to get rid of global temporary registers
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18:37:20  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25617 /trunk/src (timetable_cmd.cpp timetable_gui.cpp) (2013-07-17 18:37:13 UTC)
18:37:21  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5655] (r25377): crash when Ctrl+clicking the start date button in timetable window without any orders
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20:44:07  <frosch123> night
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21:23:31  <SamanthaD> Is there some weird reason why it's impossible to mix third rails and normal tracks on the same diagonal?! O.O
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21:26:26  <SamanthaD> Oh... I get it. You can't mix monorail/maglev and normal tracks and the NewGRFs that provide third rail hack it in via those features
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21:26:58  <Rubidium> nobody ever implemented support for more than one rail type per tile
21:27:18  <SamanthaD> You can mix rails and rails with cataneries though
21:27:31  <Rubidium> nope
21:27:41  <Rubidium> a tile is either with or without catenary
21:27:49  <SamanthaD> but I just did it...
21:28:05  <Rubidium> some clever-ish drawing routings omit drawing catenary for those very short bits
21:29:03  <SamanthaD> hmm... my electric trains still won't go down it
21:29:42  <Rubidium> just build normal rail, then electrified tracks below/next to it, and then remove the electrified rail. You'll see that some that used to be unelectrified has become electrified
21:30:05  <Rubidium> and those tiles where that happened are exactly the tiles where you added a tile with catenary
21:30:28  <Rubidium> if electric trains don't go over it, there's probably a piece of catenary missing
21:32:18  <SamanthaD> Huh... you're right
21:32:23  <SamanthaD> OH! yeah, I get it now
21:32:44  <SamanthaD> because only half of the "not electrified" track is electrified
21:34:13  <Wolf01> 'night
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