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[~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ~ Tigeroo ~] 12:03:42 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:09 <tigeroo> hello all 12:06:40 <planetmaker> salut 12:06:42 <zydeco> greetings, comrade 12:09:17 <tigeroo> I just started playing this game again, it has been a real blast from the past 12:09:55 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:10:24 <tigeroo> just wish I could find a real saved game editor for the game 12:10:39 <tigeroo> it seems like that whole project is dead 12:11:26 <V453000> convert sav to scn? or? 12:11:44 <zydeco> what do you want to edit? 12:13:23 <tigeroo> cargo amounts 12:13:30 <tigeroo> maybe city sizes 12:13:45 <tigeroo> how do you convert from save to scn? 12:13:53 <planetmaker> just rename file 12:13:58 <MNIM> simple. 12:14:01 <MNIM> just-oh. 12:14:17 <planetmaker> tigeroo, if you want a better savegame editor, improve OpenTTD's scenario editor 12:14:27 <planetmaker> It certainly could allow for more possibilities 12:14:50 <planetmaker> externalizing that is rather difficult due to the rather frequent changes in savegame format 12:15:05 <planetmaker> (there are >200 savegame formats currently) 12:15:19 <planetmaker> s/format/version/g 12:15:29 <tigeroo> that is crazy 12:16:18 <planetmaker> tigeroo, not. How else should we add new features and options but maintain save/load compatibility? 12:17:56 <tigeroo> I'm not saying its bad, just crazy and sounds complicated 12:18:32 <MNIM> Meh. why not just get the editor to load .savs too? >.> 12:19:13 <planetmaker> normally it's not really complicated. But re-implementing that elsewhere would be a constant struggle to keep up. And would need to duplicate mostly our save/load code 12:19:26 <planetmaker> MNIM, yes, that makes sense IMHO 12:20:52 <V453000> +1 to that 12:21:00 <MNIM> I so far have always just solved it by simply symlinking the .sav to a .scn in the right folder, but yeah, not exactly an option for all OSes 12:21:10 <tigeroo> so just rename the sav to whatever and it will work in the save game editor? 12:21:12 <planetmaker> hehe, indeed 12:21:16 <MNIM> yeah 12:23:48 <tigeroo> I downloaded the editors from Owen Rudge's site 12:24:53 <tigeroo> trying to understand what file formats to use 12:27:20 <planetmaker> they all are at least thoroughly outdated - if they work at all for OpenTTD 12:29:38 <tigeroo> oh, well how does one go to the scenario editor? 12:30:14 <MNIM> there's a button on the start menu of OTTD. >.> 12:31:57 <planetmaker> :D 12:32:25 <tigeroo> okay sorry been awhile since I've played 12:38:54 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:39:54 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 12:42:29 *** dfox_ [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 12:42:30 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48:30 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.79] has joined #openttd 12:48:53 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.249.196] has joined #openttd 12:49:21 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:52:52 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: Devroush, xQR, MNIM, eQualizer, Guest1206, xT2, ccfreak2k, Ammler, Kjetil, jjavaholic_ 12:53:37 <tigeroo> @planetmaker, how do you symlink files? Is there any tutorial? 12:55:02 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.5.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:51 <dihedral> tigeroo, google that same question without "@planetmaker," and you will be surprised 12:56:41 <tigeroo> oh 12:56:57 *** Netsplit over, joins: jjavaholic_, ccfreak2k, Kjetil, Ammler, xQR, MNIM, eQualizer, Guest1206 13:02:24 <tigeroo> what is the best industry set? for more options and whatever? 13:09:37 <planetmaker> what is your idea of 'best'? 13:10:03 <planetmaker> there's basically three: FIRS, ECS and OpenGFX+Industries. Each unique 13:12:03 <tigeroo> whats the best for the most industries? 13:12:05 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 13:18:28 <Belugas> hello 13:19:16 <Taede> tigeroo: whats best is a personal matter 13:19:19 <Belugas> tigeroo, it's a matter of personnal preferences 13:19:24 <Taede> best advice we can give you is to try them all out 13:21:22 <tigeroo> in your opinion which is best? 13:25:30 <planetmaker> tigeroo, also that depends on what thing fancies my mood :-) 13:25:39 <Pinkbeast> tigeroo: FIRS 13:31:18 <tigeroo> cool 13:33:17 *** zydeco [~zydeco@223.77.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Miscellaneous hardware exception error] 13:44:06 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:14 <Belugas> no no!!! ECS!! 13:48:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B21E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:52:46 <tigeroo> is there a compatibility list for FIRS? 13:58:12 <planetmaker> tigeroo, yes. no. Generally: Use a vehicle set per category. Default vehicles (aircraft, ships, road, trains) will not load the cargoes 13:58:15 <Pinkbeast> I'm not sure what you mean. It works with most things that aren't other industry sets. 13:58:19 <planetmaker> Most decent NewGRFs support it 14:01:09 <planetmaker> heqs, nuts, av8, fish 14:04:22 *** kristal [~quassel@198-91-175-49.cpe.distributel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:22 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:36 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:17 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:54 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 15:09:08 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.79] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09:31 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.79] has joined #openttd 15:12:50 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:56 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:12 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 15:23:18 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:32 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:37:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7e03.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:13 *** tigeroo [~tigeroo@pool-108-12-34-223.syrcny.fios.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 15:42:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B035.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:45:42 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.79] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:04 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.214.2.79] has joined #openttd 15:48:19 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 15:55:13 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:01:51 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> there's basically three: FIRS, ECS and OpenGFX+Industries. Each unique <-- that misses at least half of them :) 16:09:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 16:15:33 <Terkhen> hello 16:16:16 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:17:28 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19:43 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDD2D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:24:07 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:24:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:26:52 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 16:32:24 *** TheDude [~Miranda@ip-213-220-219-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:33:55 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:13 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:40:11 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-58-66.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:42:03 <AndreasB> How do I get random seed on every restart? 16:42:44 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 16:43:52 *** pure [~pure@192.241.171.112] has joined #openttd 16:44:02 <pure> What is the difference between cargodist and cargodest? 16:44:19 <__ln__> i vs. e 16:44:21 <AndreasB> Sounds like distance and destination 16:45:24 <pure> I assume distribution and destination, but is there a functional difference? 16:45:34 <AndreasB> Where do you read this? 16:45:57 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:24 <pure> OTTD wiki, development section 16:46:51 <Pinkbeast> pure: Cargodist sends cargo to the destinations you make available, with reference to the apparent capacity of the network. 16:47:10 <Pinkbeast> cargodest gives cargo desired destinations irrespective of the network you have built. 16:47:36 <pure> dist > dest, it sounds like? 16:47:59 <Pinkbeast> That depends on what you prefer, but dist seems to be more actively developed these days. 16:48:11 <Pinkbeast> And cargodest games can be very hard to get off the ground in. 16:48:24 <frosch123> dist is finished and in trunk, dest was abandoned 16:48:48 <pure> Not yet in release, right? 16:48:54 <frosch123> no, nightly 16:49:09 <frosch123> main difference of dist and dest, is the amount you get to transport 16:49:35 *** tstst [~id@37.140.123.203] has joined #openttd 16:49:43 <frosch123> with dist you always get the same amount to transport, if you add more routes, the same amount will be distributed over differen routes 16:49:59 <frosch123> so, by adding a new route you actually hurt your existing routes, like in standard ottd 16:50:10 <frosch123> in dest you only get the cargo, for which you provide a route 16:50:20 <frosch123> so, the more routes you have, the more cargo you get 16:50:26 <frosch123> adding more routes does not affect existing ones 16:55:38 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:00:48 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:01:55 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:10 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:02:32 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@2001:44b8:31d8:3a00:a00:27ff:fe3b:1806] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:05:13 *** pure [~pure@192.241.171.112] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:33:20 <Eddi|zuHause> is there an iconv filter to fix double-utf8? 17:38:12 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:39:46 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 17:40:12 *** tstst [~id@37.140.123.203] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:45:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25825 trunk/src/lang/lithuanian.txt (2013-10-08 17:45:17 UTC) 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 2 changes by Stabilitronas 17:48:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:48:52 <Wolf01> moin 17:51:01 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:51:10 <Alberth> moin! 17:53:13 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:28 <TheDude> hi there 18:07:56 <TheDude> anyone could help me with GS please? I am having to make setParam of GSText to work 18:08:29 <TheDude> actually I dont even know if it works the same as in the code or not 18:29:14 <planetmaker> TheDude, the existing open-source GS are no help and guide? 18:29:28 <TheDude> nope 18:30:01 <TheDude> http://nogo.openttd.org/api/1.3.2/classGSText.html - I tried several combinations, but still cant figure how it is supposed to work 18:31:16 <TheDude> if I call it like GSText.SetParam, there is errormesage that says it is not static, and if I use it on text object, it throws undefined error 18:35:41 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:25 <Zuu> TheDude: local txt = GSText(GSText.STR_MY_STRING); txt.SetParam(...); 18:38:45 <Zuu> Or just apply the parameters to the GSText constructor that take variable amount of parameters. 18:38:59 <TheDude> well, that is what I tried but it failed 18:39:07 <Zuu> Eg. local txt = GSText(GSText.STR_MY_STRING, company, town); 18:39:14 <TheDude> like txt.setparam(0, variable) 18:39:24 <Zuu> You should not use lowercase 18:39:33 <Zuu> IIRC its SetParam 18:39:55 <Zuu> Squirrel is case sensitive. 18:39:58 <TheDude> in code I had it SetParam 18:40:33 <Zuu> If my help doesn't help, perhaps paste relevant part of your code in a pastebin 18:40:59 <TheDude> well, I tried to pass string to it, as the description slightly implies 18:41:15 <TheDude> is it already possible to pring raw strings in GS? 18:41:54 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you need raw string for anyway? 18:41:59 <Zuu> You cannot pass a raw string to SetParam 18:42:14 <TheDude> I am limited by 20 parametres limit, so I build a string with numbers to pass it as one string parameter 18:42:22 <TheDude> another way possible in GS? 18:42:35 <TheDude> I want to display more things in town gui 18:42:59 <TheDude> and it takes only one GSText instance, so there is the 20 par limir 18:43:18 <planetmaker> you can't get around that limit 18:43:24 <TheDude> no {RAW_STRING}? :-( 18:43:28 <Zuu> It may work to pass a raw string instead of GSText, but otherwise there is no way to get around the limit. 18:43:28 <planetmaker> not by out-sourcing params to sub-strings 18:43:29 <TheDude> I know that 18:44:09 <TheDude> I tried: var = a+"/"+b+"blabla"; 18:44:19 <Eddi|zuHause> why is there a limit to a "stack" anyway? 18:44:36 <TheDude> GSText(GSText.MY_STR, var); MY_STR :{RAW_STRING} 18:44:39 <TheDude> to no avail 18:44:51 <TheDude> well, I dont mind the limit 18:45:04 <TheDude> but it would be nice if town gui could have more lines like goal gui has 18:45:31 <TheDude> and so far I have not found any way to pass raw strings there 18:46:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well if there is no way you're unlikely to find it by repeating the problem more often 18:46:15 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:29 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:33 <TheDude> what do yo mean? 18:47:12 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:27 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 19:11:59 <frosch123> we just need an excel plugin 19:12:32 <planetmaker> And Powerpoint 19:13:24 <frosch123> V453000: can you immitate the day9 rant on spreadsheets in games? 19:14:57 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.159.76] has joined #openttd 19:18:27 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.47] has joined #openttd 19:20:48 <Zuu> TheDude: The current system do not offer more than 20 parameters. If you need more, perhaps consider to write a patch that provides an elegant solution to the problem. 19:30:21 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:52 <V453000> frosch123: ? 19:33:00 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.47] has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 19:59:48 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:04:27 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:34:46 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:47 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.238.243] has joined #openttd 21:07:52 <TheDude> yes Zuu, good idea, but increasing paramatres is not what I would want anyway 21:08:21 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:16:47 *** kristal [~quassel@198-91-175-49.cpe.distributel.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:19:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6DAA2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:19:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B21E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:40 <Zuu> TheDude: the solution I had in mind would not be raising the parameter limit. While re-reading my suggestion it may be easy to think so. 21:21:02 <Zuu> Other solutions would be to offer multiple multi-lines or moving the story page rendering code to a generic location and re-use it in town window and add a mechanism to link a story page (element) to a town. 21:21:55 <TheDude> I am not deeply involved in actual code there, but yes, it would be nice to have more flexible town gui space 21:22:12 <TheDude> especially for GS dealing with towns 21:22:50 <Zuu> I do not oppose that, just that I haven't prioritized that over other things that I would like to do. 21:25:07 <TheDude> if it is in priorities then it is good :-) 21:30:28 <Zuu> A somewhat complicated task that I've started but still have long way to go is to add interactive controls to the story book. Eg. a simple form of a <form> in html. 21:34:29 *** Sturmi [~sturmi@p4FEDD2D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Sturmi] 21:35:08 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.59.167.170] has joined #openttd 21:35:30 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.59.167.170] has quit [] 21:36:10 <__ln__> what does the spectrum of a 2-dimensional Fourier transform tell about the source, if the transform is applied to e.g. a photo? 21:39:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B035.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:47 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.238.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:25 <frosch123> night 21:43:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7e03.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:46:01 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:00 <planetmaker> __ln__, it tells the spatial frequency. E.g. gives you an idea of where features are found of what size 21:47:23 <planetmaker> and whether it's a rather regular pattern or rather stochastic image 21:48:27 <planetmaker> __ln__, you could for instance use the fourier transform of an image to low or high pass filter an image by cutting away the corresponding frequencies and subsequently apply the inverse fourier transform 21:48:46 <planetmaker> high-pass will give you edge detection, low-pass will give you a blurred image 21:49:03 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:49:26 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:12 <planetmaker> __ln__, http://www.exelisvis.com/docs/FFTReduceBackgroundNoise.html 21:55:38 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:08:19 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:15:40 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:15:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:17:23 *** TheDude [~Miranda@ip-213-220-219-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: bye] 22:19:39 *** carpii [~carpii@cpc5-hart10-2-0-cust948.11-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:21:37 <carpii> anyone know why openttd would fail to output music (tried with both original music data, and openmsx) 22:21:52 <carpii> uh, on a mac, i should add 22:24:04 <__ln__> planetmaker: thank you, i trusted #openttd to be the place to get a decent answer for that at midnight, and i wasn't wrong. :) 22:32:19 <Eddi|zuHause> carpii: lack of a midi playback device? (on linux i'd say timidity, but on mac i have no clue) 22:33:46 <carpii> im not sure either tbh :( 22:33:57 <carpii> i would have thought quicktime driver would work 22:34:45 <carpii> openttd detects the music, but selecting a track just whizzes through them all in a second, as if theyre all invalid 22:36:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a typical sign that playback device is missing 22:38:39 <carpii> hm 22:38:40 <carpii> ok thanks 22:52:27 *** Devroush367 [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:54:21 *** carpii [~carpii@cpc5-hart10-2-0-cust948.11-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: carpii] 22:57:55 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:06:28 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-81-174.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 23:29:43 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-81-174.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 23:36:36 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-110.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:42 *** retro|cz [~retro@248.204.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 23:53:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd