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[quasselcor@atlantis.shroudbox.net] has joined #openttd 09:07:46 <peter1138> \o 09:08:01 <peter1138> apocolypse in 9/8 wagons 09:08:20 *** minimoo [quasselcor@atlantis.shroudbox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11:46 *** ricus [~ricus@chunli.enric.me] has joined #openttd 09:14:57 <Samu> http://i.imgur.com/uvCCbLw.png - trAIns rail upgrade complete, took 4 years 09:16:19 <Samu> I spot a few issues here and there, but overall, 99% of is was successful 09:27:41 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc80661-stap13-2-0-cust817.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 09:38:31 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/anNPEMo_460s_v2.jpg how they suppose to make it work? 09:39:34 <Wolf01> heh, maybe the prototype works, but irl first of all you need to get rid of the people on the roof 09:42:31 <peter1138> I can't imagine that helping much. 09:47:10 <Alkel_U3> "Sharma further said that as per the plan, the train would be pulled by conventional diesel-run engines while the solar panels will provide all the internal electricity needs for lights and fans on both AC and non-AC coaches." 09:47:33 <Alkel_U3> I thought so 09:47:58 <peter1138> Yeah 09:48:20 <peter1138> "first solar train" 09:50:02 <Alkel_U3> having roof-passangers crank dynamos might be cheaper :-) 09:50:03 <Wolf01> first solar ac on train 09:50:17 <Wolf01> yeah :) 09:59:26 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:05:49 *** ricus [~ricus@chunli.enric.me] has quit [Quit: 'Til next time!] 10:05:58 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:06 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:17 *** ricus [~ricus@chunli.enric.me] has joined #openttd 10:14:13 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd 10:26:04 <Samu> hmm, why is that the AIs manually replace engines when a new model is released? 10:29:14 <Samu> don't they have access to autoreplace? 10:34:45 <peter1138> basically they don't need it :p 10:37:16 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc80661-stap13-2-0-cust817.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:24 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:41:17 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 10:59:49 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc80661-stap13-2-0-cust817.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 11:00:52 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 11:00:53 *** minimoo [quasselcor@2a01:4a0:44:118::2] has joined #openttd 11:08:30 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 11:09:56 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:16:35 *** monsted [~monsted@rootweiler.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16:37 *** monsted [~monsted@rootweiler.dk] has joined 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Torrential rain and strong winds. Glad to remain home. 13:20:05 <supermop> andy 13:20:33 <supermop> damnit. welll i wasn't at work at 3 am, but i also made a 5/8 13:21:33 <V453000> 666/8 13:22:24 <sim-al2> An 83.25 tile engine would be interesting :p 13:22:35 <supermop> V453000: some glitching in curves 13:22:44 <V453000> nay 13:22:47 <V453000> eazy 13:23:12 <supermop> sim-al2: it would be 41.625 tiles 13:23:19 <supermop> 8/8 is a half tile 13:23:27 <sim-al2> Whoops 13:25:18 <V453000> nub! 13:29:09 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:15 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd 13:38:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 13:42:13 <supermop> yo andythenorth 13:42:23 <supermop> i also drew a 5/8 wagon 13:42:50 <andythenorth> great :) 13:43:31 <andythenorth> supermop: is it on the ticket? o_O 13:43:39 <supermop> not yet 13:52:25 <supermop> repainting roof to be lighter 13:52:48 <supermop> bc i imagine its white painted wood rather than galvanized metal 13:54:22 <andythenorth> ok 13:54:29 <andythenorth> a bit of roof variety can be nice 13:54:44 <andythenorth> I was all set to make all roofs the same everywhere, but itâs restrictive 13:57:41 <supermop> ah 13:57:42 <supermop> ok 13:57:46 <supermop> oops 13:58:18 <andythenorth> there are vehicles in the pony roster with clashing roofs, but I got accustomed to it :D 13:59:32 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:15:29 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:03 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:28:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:10 <supermop> ook andythenorth , updated 14:33:27 <andythenorth> supermop: love it 14:33:32 <andythenorth> might be 1px too long in \ / views 14:33:44 <andythenorth> those views are not science, depends if it looks right in consists 14:33:46 <andythenorth> ;) 14:34:01 <andythenorth> Iâll do the buy menu sprite for you ;) 14:34:03 <supermop> based on first box in this rake: 14:34:05 <supermop> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Z9E1NXY9yzI/TGlt_5WZNKI/AAAAAAAAEL8/Rn5pGD-k67o/s1600/Grahamstown+locomotive+with+train+at+Port+Alfred+and+other+tank+loco+in+background+(1024).JPG 14:34:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host197-233-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 14:34:31 <supermop> if it looks too packed in game can shave a px off 14:35:01 <supermop> i made it conspicuously 2-axle to look more old timey 14:36:19 <supermop> box in the photo looks 3 axle, but at that point in game it just looks like generic undercarriage junk, indistinguishable from a modern wagon 14:37:17 <supermop> if it looks ok, easy enough to paint into 5/8 stock, boxcar, etc 14:38:04 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7819/antelope_gen_1_fruit_car.png 14:39:29 <supermop> updated file with buy menu sprite 14:40:13 <supermop> hows it look in / or corners? 14:40:29 <supermop> you did the tank already? 14:42:43 <supermop> ok getting coffee 14:42:56 <V453000> those are quite nice :) 14:44:27 <supermop> thanks v 14:44:53 <V453000> I cannot recall seeing better drawn boxcars in openttd tbh 14:45:16 <V453000> the roof feels a bit too shiny but nice 14:51:16 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:15 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 14:52:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:52:37 <Alberth> moin 14:54:22 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:29 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:31 <supermop> yo alberth 15:11:20 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11:48 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:15:34 <Mazur> Anyone got a link to info for improving a slow openttd, even on a water-cooled i7? 15:16:00 <Mazur> Public currently slows out here. 15:16:20 <Xaroth|Work> define 'slow openttd' 15:16:43 <Mazur> It quits. 15:16:49 <Mazur> After a minute or two. 15:17:03 <Xaroth|Work> quits as in crashes 15:17:07 <Xaroth|Work> or quits as in... closes? 15:17:27 <Mazur> General timeout comes calling. 15:18:11 <Mazur> It closes and goes back to start-up screen. 15:21:23 <Mazur> Mouse is dead slow. 15:21:48 <Alberth> MP game? 15:21:58 <Mazur> Public Server, yes. 15:21:59 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 15:22:28 <Mazur> Running 32bit, dunno how much that slows things down. 15:22:38 <Mazur> 6bit system, btw,. 15:22:42 <Mazur> 64bit 15:23:09 <Samu_> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6438 - I'm trying to fix this 15:23:24 <Alberth> using zbase, or an 8bpp baseset? 15:23:36 <Alberth> sprite cache could be a problem 15:23:44 <Alberth> how new if your config file? 15:23:56 <Alberth> *is 15:23:59 <Mazur> zBase, sprite-chache=512 15:24:11 <Mazur> Ancient, most like. 15:24:52 <Mazur> 64 bit binary, I meant the graphics I run are 32bit. 15:25:25 <Alberth> hmm, my cache is smaller :p 15:25:36 <Samu_> zbase is bad 15:25:39 <Mazur> Ok, so the suggestion is to move config and have a new one made and then incorporat personaol prefs in the new one? 15:25:47 <Samu_> why do ppl keep using it 15:26:04 <Mazur> Is there a better 32bit? 15:26:24 <Mazur> It was the first one to catch my eye when lloking into 32bit graphics. 15:26:46 <Alberth> it's also the only one, except for abase 15:27:30 <Alberth> you could try moving the config, and generate a new one to see what sprite cache is nowadays 15:28:02 <Samu_> when my mouse gets slow it's usually because I'm running AIs or GS on gigantic maps 15:29:29 <Alberth> Samu_: run zbase to get new ways to make a system slow 15:30:32 <Alberth> Mazur: not very much at home in speeding up, but dropping the details, perhaps disable water animation? 15:31:25 <Alberth> running an 8bpp baseset will likely also work :p 15:31:27 <Samu_> by slow i mean, the time it takes to update the cursor position 15:31:33 <Samu_> it's sluggish 15:31:34 <Samu_> delayed 15:32:08 <Mazur> anyone use a specific blitter? 15:33:03 <Alberth> no experience there 15:33:15 <Samu_> I use OpenGFX 15:33:29 <Alberth> but my maps are probably less dense :) 15:34:42 <Samu_> it's only sluggish or delayed for the server, that's why I prefer to run server as dedicated, then join it as a client to spectate AIs 15:35:08 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc36896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 15:35:33 <Samu_> oh, speaking of gui server 15:35:37 <Samu_> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6438 - halp 15:36:37 <Samu_> there seems to be a delayed updating of the widget 15:37:25 <Samu_> not synced 15:37:32 <Samu_> it doesn't happen on single player 15:40:01 <Samu_> the widgets are WID_AIC_DECREASE and WID_AIC_INCREASE 15:40:10 <Samu_> the '<' and '>' 15:43:37 *** gnu_jj [~quassel@ipbcc36896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:53 <Samu_> IConsoleSetSetting("difficulty.max_no_competitors", new_value); gonna check what this do 15:51:02 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:54:24 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:49 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 15:57:12 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:39 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 15:59:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:59:27 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:47 <Samu_> i followed deep into a function which comments are "If we are in network, and the command is not from the network" 16:06:06 <Samu_> "send it to the command-queue and abort execution" 16:06:25 <Samu_> it's sending the command into a queue 16:07:40 <supermop> andythenorth: 8/8 fruit car updated 16:08:00 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK 16:08:35 <andythenorth> supermop: great, you around later? I am at work, wonât put these in for a few hours :) 16:09:47 <Samu_> it sent the command into a queue of some sort and then runs InvalidateData right away... InvalidateData is still dealing with the old value 16:10:03 <Samu_> seems like the network still did not receive the new value 16:10:11 <Samu_> what can I do now? 16:10:39 <supermop> i am at work as well 16:11:02 <supermop> ill be around past midnight gmt at least 16:12:19 <supermop> what 5s did you do already? 16:15:57 <Samu_> yeh, max_no_competitors was 13, onclick increased it to 14, sends the new value as a command and puts iit into a network queue, and invalidatedata is called, but find out the value is 13, and the WID_AIC_INCREASE doesn't get disabled, because it's still 13. 16:16:23 <Samu_> how do I sycnronize this? 16:17:08 *** kais58|A1K [~kais58@88.98.85.222] has joined #openttd 16:17:41 <Samu_> it is only disabled if the value is 15 16:17:46 <Samu_> on my patch, that is 16:17:50 <Samu_> 14 on 1.6.0 16:18:16 <Samu_> speaking for 1.6.0 14 should set the widget disabled 16:18:34 *** kais58|A1K is now known as kais58_ 16:19:02 <andythenorth> supermop: box car (but could be changed), livestock car 16:19:11 <andythenorth> open car just needs the 6/8 one shortening 16:19:52 *** kais58|AFK [~kais58@88.98.85.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:01 <supermop> the stock and box look fine to me, i'm happy to mess with them if you want though. I can make a reefer based off of fruit or box 16:20:51 <supermop> the tank looks all set? 16:21:18 <supermop> will there be a gen 1 edible tank? 16:21:54 <supermop> can't imagine it would bright stainless steel or white thogh 16:22:07 <supermop> big wooden cask? 16:22:53 <supermop> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/SR_4409_6_Wheeled_Milk_Wagon_Didcot_Railway_Centre.jpg 16:23:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:23 <supermop> white stripe on black or grey tank? 16:23:55 <Alberth> hola 16:25:29 <supermop> http://img06.deviantart.net/1a75/i/2015/267/b/4/united_dairies_glass_lined_milk_tank_44057_by_rlkitterman-d9asdjb.jpg 16:27:18 <Alberth> haha "milk for london" :) 16:27:41 <supermop> does exactly what it says on the tin (tank) 16:28:06 <Alberth> not in my games :p 16:28:11 <supermop> maybe in the 19th c railfans couldn't possibly comprehend why milk was on a train 16:28:26 <andythenorth> there are probably 2 edibles tanks, matching the reefer intro dates 16:28:38 <andythenorth> the gen 1 tank car is a bit janky, the perspective is off on the dome and tank :) 16:28:51 <Alberth> I like the white one 16:28:57 <Alberth> nicely generic 16:29:08 <andythenorth> thatâs the one in IH pony roster ;) 16:29:26 <andythenorth> supermop edibles tank needs to be CC on white tank, realism be damned 16:29:28 <andythenorth> also 16:29:29 <supermop> andythenorth: so does that mean gen 1.5 and gen 2.5? or 1 and 2, or 2 and 3? 16:30:01 <andythenorth> usually gen 2 and 3, and a comment saying âgen 1 is skipped' 16:30:05 <andythenorth> or so 16:30:33 <supermop> ok 16:30:35 <frosch123> moin mammals :) 16:30:42 <supermop> saves painting the tank then 16:32:08 <Samu_> hmm 16:33:49 <supermop> just started a 1870 pony game to verify - no milk tanks 16:34:02 <andythenorth> 1900 or 1910 or so 16:34:35 <andythenorth> supermop: also ;) http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html 16:34:45 <andythenorth> hmm, doesnât say the roster, does it :P 16:34:46 <andythenorth> oops 16:42:13 <Samu_> i dont understand network code 16:42:21 <Samu_> it does too many jumps 16:43:52 *** MonkeyDrone [~MonkDAce@80.88.255.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:56 <Samu_> no instance of function template "max" matches the argument list openttd d:\OpenTTD\trunk\src\ai\ai_gui.cpp 1009 16:44:09 <Samu_> new_value = max(COMPANY_FIRST, GetGameSettings().difficulty.max_no_competitors - 1); 16:44:25 <Samu_> i changed 0 to COMPANY_FIRST, and he does not like it 16:45:04 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-100-066.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:45:22 <Samu_> but this works new_value = min(MAX_COMPANIES, GetGameSettings().difficulty.max_no_competitors + 1); 16:45:28 <Samu_> why doesn't it work for max? 16:48:23 <Samu_> new_value = max((int)COMPANY_FIRST, GetGameSettings().difficulty.max_no_competitors - 1); - this fixes it 16:49:36 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:49 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 16:50:22 <Samu_> think I had an idea 16:50:24 <Samu_> brb 17:00:01 <Samu_> nop, bad idea t.t 17:01:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:02:08 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:04:36 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:37 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19889.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:40:59 *** lobster [~mccrabbym@145.131.157.180] has joined #openttd 17:44:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:09 <supermop> andythenorth: can pallet magic color tarps to be olive or khaki before certain date? 17:48:43 <supermop> otherwise i will draw gen 1 and 2 tarps to be olive or khaki 17:48:58 <andythenorth> if they were drawn purple, it could be sorted out 17:49:05 <andythenorth> I would just CC tbh :) 17:49:06 <supermop> should be oiled or waxed canvas before the war 17:49:22 <supermop> in pony they are blue plastic 17:49:31 <supermop> i think 17:49:40 <andythenorth> I donât think we thought about it that much :) 17:50:00 <supermop> ok 17:50:32 <supermop> going to draw gen 1 passenger car next 17:50:53 * andythenorth happy 17:54:09 <supermop> you want darker or lighter roof? 17:54:20 <supermop> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Z9E1NXY9yzI/Sy_NqFr_x8I/AAAAAAAADH0/domRNKlH2GE/s1600-h/sar-zasm2.jpg 17:54:43 <supermop> im doing those little bumps instead of clerestory 17:58:51 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:06 <Eddi|zuHause> old wagons tend to have a very silver/white roof, but i always found the roofs in CETS too bright for the game 17:59:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:00:03 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:35 <andythenorth> supermop: match to? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/src/graphics/passenger_car_ng_pony_gen_1_0.png 18:06:56 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:39 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4e31f37d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:15:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6C119.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:18:49 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:15 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:37:26 <supermop> andythenorth: match height to gen 1 fruit car or to gen 2 passenger car? (1 or 2 px of space under car floor) 18:44:28 *** roidal [~roidal@cm215-81.liwest.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 18:48:07 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 18:58:36 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@25.103.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 19:03:19 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:10 <Samu_> there's right to left on clicking arrows? 19:04:14 <Samu_> wow... 19:08:08 <Samu_> "This version of OpenTTD does not support right-to-left languages. Recompile with icu enabled." - this is happening on 1.6.0 19:08:44 <Samu_> but not on trunk 19:09:52 <frosch123> fixed in 1.6.1 19:10:07 <Samu_> 1.6.1 is out? eh i missed it 19:10:38 <Samu_> nevermind 19:11:45 <Samu_> clicking left arrow on a right to left language increases the value 19:11:55 <Samu_> is this really what they expect? 19:12:09 <Samu_> those weird languages are really weirdo 19:15:33 <Rubidium> Samu_: just read the overview section of http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-positioning-righttoleft.html 19:19:29 <andythenorth> supermop: sorry, was afk, match to gen 1 fruit car 19:19:36 <andythenorth> the pax car is a standard gauge sprite 19:23:28 <Samu_> it's like mirroring the entire content 19:24:13 <Alberth> of course, why would the rtl people want less than we have? 19:25:29 *** Wormnest__ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:25:57 <frosch123> Samu_: did you consider how you read numbers with more than 6 digits? 19:26:18 <frosch123> how do you detect billions from millions? 19:26:41 <Rubidium> or lakhs and crores 19:27:57 <Samu_> i never knew 19:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause> one would assume i'd have learned by now that when someone says a line that has absolutely no connection to anything said before, i should think of my ignore list... 19:32:32 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:33:10 <Eddi|zuHause> instead of scrolling back looking for the reference 19:34:01 <Alberth> you need a certain minimum number of positives to take action :p 19:36:29 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:36:46 <Eddi|zuHause> also, whenever anyone says RTL, i think of the TV channel... 19:38:27 <andythenorth> ditto, and Iâm not even German 19:38:34 <andythenorth> or Luxembourgian 19:38:37 <andythenorth> or whatever it is 19:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i think they also have dutch language channels 19:38:59 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 19:39:28 <andythenorth> mostly I think because I had this as a child http://www.historyrepeats.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/IMG_1435.jpg 19:39:42 *** mescalito [~mescalito@195-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: mescalito] 19:39:46 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:40:53 <supermop> ....corgiTronics? 19:41:47 <frosch123> andythenorth: i didn't even know the meaning of the abbreviation 19:42:06 <andythenorth> âyou donât all have my advantagesâ 19:42:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i still remember when i heard for the first time somone saying they now have this channel "RTL", and that letter combination sounded so very strange and foreign to me 19:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> of course, everything was strange and foreign at that time... 19:43:29 *** Wormnest__ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:29 <Eddi|zuHause> because the world as i knew it ended, and in flooded this whole new world 19:45:32 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:04 *** mescalito [~mescalito@195-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 19:46:48 <Eddi|zuHause> but that was a truly weird feeling. my brain kept telling me "wait, that can't be right", and tried to reorder and substitute the letters into something that made sense, but nothing worked... 19:47:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i was probably around 8 or 9 19:48:23 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:48:34 <andythenorth> supermop: fruit cars done, cheers 19:56:21 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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