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Text is alittle small but double size interface is way to big 07:25:11 <__ln__> *too 07:25:39 <Thanark> Helpful 07:25:47 <__ln__> you're welcome 07:38:53 <Alberth> Don't know of any 1.5 size gui buttons 07:39:11 <Alberth> you can change text to anything though by using truetype fonts 07:40:18 <FLHerne> Thanark: Linky https://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty 07:40:33 <Thanark> Thanks 07:41:35 <Thanark> Most of its just fine but when I look at the vehicles and it goes the "profit this year" part, its in a different font and its bad. 07:42:28 *** debdog has quit IRC 07:44:19 <FLHerne> "Create proper font settings page" is on a few lists of things that would be neat, but because it's totally platform-specific Someone™ would need knowledge of Windows, macOS, Linux (plural?), *BSD, ... 07:45:44 *** debdog has joined #openttd 07:52:24 <Thanark> Amazing, that worked great. Thanks folks 08:27:46 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 08:33:46 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 09:10:20 <peter1138> there's a patch for it but it's nasty 09:10:31 *** supermop has joined #openttd 09:18:34 *** supermop has quit IRC 09:36:00 *** orudge` has quit IRC 09:36:24 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 09:36:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 10:33:08 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 10:39:29 *** orudge` has quit IRC 10:39:44 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 10:39:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 10:53:35 <milek7> is it possible to add something like GSStation::SetCargoRating to nogo api? 10:53:49 <milek7> or it is blasphemy to change anything in api? :p 11:00:00 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 11:00:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 11:04:45 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 11:05:54 <Alberth> is cargo rating of any use? 11:06:18 <Alberth> it's mostly a balancing thing 11:06:45 *** tokai has quit IRC 11:24:11 <FLHerne> Seems to matter in vanilla, but tbh in FIRS I just ignore it, the supply-chain arrangement is far more important 11:43:23 <Alberth> FIRS doesn't vary production by rating :) 11:44:46 <Alberth> which means there are only two stages in building a network, the initial setup without supplies, and then extend to handle supplies, and you're done 11:58:11 <FLHerne> Well, it still affects how much of the produced cargo you actually get 11:58:27 <FLHerne> But that's insignificant compared to the 4x-multiplier thing 12:00:46 <V453000> how evil is it to release every version of BRIX as a different GRFID to bananas? :) 12:01:41 <Wolf01> If the versions have breaking changes then is the right thing to do 12:02:19 <Wolf01> I hate when I get new grfs and they use the old parameters I set and NOTHING works 12:15:58 <V453000> well BRIX is just visual so it can't really break anything 12:16:11 <V453000> but it might make sense for people to select which version they want for that same reason 12:16:30 <V453000> + you can disable some parts by parameters so eventually you could for example use everything from 0.0.1 and vehicles from 0.0.3 12:18:18 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:57:36 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 12:59:46 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 13:20:21 *** juzza1 has quit IRC 13:23:46 *** juzza1 has joined #openttd 13:47:21 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:51:37 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:08:44 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:24:49 *** Gja has quit IRC 14:33:30 *** DDR has quit IRC 14:34:02 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 14:45:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 14:47:46 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 14:50:21 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 14:51:26 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:53:22 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 14:54:09 <Wolf01> Lightning storm, router disconnected for unknown reason 14:54:52 <Wolf01> And now it's connected at less than half the speed... 14:56:07 <Alkel_U3> the god of thunder is leeching your bandwidth, obviously 14:57:15 <Alkel_U3> also, can you send some of the storm over? It's hotter than desirable here 14:57:21 *** Cubey has quit IRC 14:57:29 <Wolf01> It's still hot here 14:57:39 <Wolf01> Ok, not like the last week 15:00:18 <Wolf01> Ok, so it's not my router's fault, the uptime shows 330 hours 15:00:40 <Wolf01> ISP fucked up again 15:03:30 <Alkel_U3> I'm curious, do you live in such a god-forgoten rural area there isn't any infrastructure or a city, where reworking the infrastructure is costly and requires digging up streets? 15:03:40 <Wolf01> Exactly 15:04:22 <Alkel_U3> I hope not both? That would have to be like a ghost town in the fifth dimension or something :-) 15:05:07 <Wolf01> The nearest ISP node is at 7km from my house 15:05:58 <Wolf01> It goes slightly better near town center 15:06:36 <Wolf01> But here... we have the same infrastructure since the road was built... 38 years ago 15:06:58 <Alkel_U3> shortes route or the length of the cable? I've heard of people having a DSLAM like, 500 m from their house and the cable going around so much they end up with about 3 km 15:07:35 <Wolf01> Length of the cable, as technicians said, the node is at 5km bird fly 15:07:43 <Wolf01> Maybe less 15:09:04 <Alkel_U3> I've seen one xDSL ISP starting to offer 250/25 in suitable locations, wonder how close one has to be for that 15:09:55 <Wolf01> We can't go more than 7M/256K, the best I can have is 4M/32K 15:10:47 <Wolf01> Maybe 4M/50K when planets align 15:10:56 <Alkel_U3> isn't LTE a better option? 15:11:12 <Wolf01> Yes, but it costs a bit 15:11:23 <Wolf01> And isn't really "flat" 15:11:25 <peter1138> 32K? Haha 15:11:47 <peter1138> Um, sorry. Commiserations. 15:12:16 <Wolf01> All the offers have a virtually unlimited data with max 7GB/week or such... with updates, steam, netflix and youtube I do 7GB in 2 days 15:12:42 <Alkel_U3> one can get a location-locked LTE flat-rate for similar price to DSL here, but that's quite new 15:14:00 <Wolf01> We could have the same xDSL from different ISP (like vodafone), but always xDSL and with NAT 15:14:23 <Wolf01> But it costs a bit less than this one 15:15:58 <Wolf01> They also sell you 100/25 and you get 30/10 if you are lucky 15:16:00 <Alkel_U3> yeah, the phone wires got severed from the phone company here, too. 15:17:00 <Alkel_U3> that is reasonable speed, I shared 30/10 with 2 people and was quite ok 15:17:11 <Alkel_U3> now I share 30/30 with 3 15:17:36 <Alkel_U3> and also we have 1:5 agregation :P 15:18:31 <Wolf01> I share mine with 4 people, with an average of 7 devices connected 15:18:55 <peter1138> "unlimited" "max 7GB/week" .. er... 15:19:04 <Wolf01> Yeah 15:19:05 <peter1138> mine is not unlimited 15:19:10 <peter1138> i only get 1TB a month 15:19:18 <peter1138> i also pay for 80/20 and get 80/20 15:19:37 <peter1138> most i've used in a month is 250GB so i'm happy 15:19:39 <Alkel_U3> heh, I'm the last one in this flat who doesn't have a switch in his room 15:19:50 <Wolf01> Oh, 7GB/week is also 1GB/day 15:20:00 <Wolf01> They really like these limits 15:20:03 <Alkel_U3> there's even a switch in the kitchen. oher than the router 15:20:08 <peter1138> i have no computer equipment in my room ;) 15:20:20 <Alkel_U3> that sounds beautifull 15:21:04 <peter1138> but then i do have the whole house to fill with stuff instead 15:24:51 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:26:05 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 15:28:53 *** roidal has joined #openttd 15:32:33 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:33:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 15:45:10 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:48:11 *** DDR has joined #openttd 15:59:53 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:01:29 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:27:21 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 16:54:54 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:56:49 <andythenorth> o/ 16:59:42 <V453000> hy 16:59:52 <Alberth> o/ 17:00:09 <andythenorth> V453000: got any screenshots from trying snow over tinted ground? 17:00:22 <V453000> tinted = green or gray? 17:00:27 <andythenorth> the greige tint 17:00:31 <andythenorth> warmed up grey 17:00:40 <V453000> probably not anymore 17:00:42 <V453000> but it was real shit 17:01:02 <andythenorth> such https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=189106 17:01:10 <andythenorth> except that would need texture and shit 17:01:15 <andythenorth> and the trees should be coloured 17:01:17 <V453000> iz horribly bright 17:01:24 * andythenorth wants something to try tinting in photoshop 17:01:33 <andythenorth> I reckon stripped ground colour can be made to work 17:01:55 <andythenorth> but needs coloured trees and shit, and the contrast might be nasty 17:02:00 <V453000> the gray will work :) 17:02:05 <andythenorth> it does 17:02:08 <andythenorth> I just don’t like it :) 17:02:13 <V453000> that's fine 17:02:13 <andythenorth> it’s technically valid 17:02:21 <V453000> that's why I will make both versions, green and gray 17:02:24 <V453000> eventually maybe more 17:02:33 <andythenorth> ‘choose your base set’ :P 17:02:33 <V453000> each of them will be different grfid so anyone can choose 17:02:54 <V453000> there is no point in me making this shit for years and then not exporting 2 different colours which for me is literally one checkbox with the system I have built in after effects 17:03:11 <Wolf01> o/ 17:03:18 *** debdog has quit IRC 17:05:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:06:09 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:08:42 *** debdog has joined #openttd 17:08:46 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8534/BRIX.png 17:08:54 <eekee> how do you stop trains from picking some random depot to go to whenever? 17:09:13 <eekee> is a go to depot order not enough? 17:10:00 <eekee> andythenorth: neat! is this for a lunar mod? 17:10:31 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8535/BRIX-arctic.png 17:10:57 <V453000> there's probably going to be some tint, sure :) 17:11:02 <V453000> it doesn't have to be 100% dead 17:11:06 <V453000> will see 17:11:57 <eekee> fun :) 17:12:24 <Arveen2> that light gray looks better than the dark one imo 17:12:28 <andythenorth> the thing that didn’t work definitely was monochrom all trees and shit 17:12:35 <andythenorth> although /me plays with trees off 17:12:41 <V453000> yes that's for sure 17:12:52 <eekee> i like the slight tint in the last link 17:12:54 <V453000> everything else must have something if the ground is desaturated 17:13:03 <eekee> what about turning trees into boulders? 17:13:18 <V453000> some trees are boulders already :) 17:13:23 <eekee> ah :D 17:13:33 <V453000> don't have them rendered yet but yeah 17:13:39 <V453000> reworking all trees basically 17:13:45 <eekee> cool 17:14:00 <eekee> i think it's not lunar if the natural surface is colorful, but town buildings (domes?) could be 17:14:33 <V453000> the idea isn't to make it lunar :) 17:14:39 <eekee> aw! ok :) 17:15:13 <eekee> ages ago i had some lunar mod ideas, but was too busy then 17:15:42 <V453000> well I'm too busy now, but eh :D 17:16:16 <eekee> :D 17:19:45 *** dark_pingus has quit IRC 17:22:45 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:27:49 <eekee> hm, not a servicing issue, but one little bit of track missing 17:38:16 <Wolf01> Out for dinner, better if I shutdown too, light come and go 17:38:23 <Wolf01> Bye 17:38:28 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 17:58:54 <Alberth> V, petroleum fuels, nuts yellow + red, looking great :D 18:00:05 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:00:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:07:08 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:13:35 <Alkel_U3> eekee: if you plop at least one "go to depot", possibly with "service when needed", in a vehicle's order list it will completely stop the default depot-seeking behaviour 18:14:05 <eekee> great, that's what i thought, thanks Al 18:14:08 <eekee> Alkel_U3: 18:15:12 <Alkel_U3> also there's an order for "go to nearest depot", which, IIRC, has the same effect and can possibly work on multi-tracked, multidepot lines 18:25:13 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:29:00 <andythenorth> rescaled from 10/8 to 8/8 http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8536/IH-big-boat-8-8.png 18:29:02 <andythenorth> probably better 18:29:40 <andythenorth> super-realism eh? http://www.owensvalleysub.com/locopics/B40-8W/Santa%20Fe%20518/santafe518stock.JPG 18:30:49 *** roidal has quit IRC 18:35:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 18:36:22 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:43:39 <supermop_> cute diesel andy 18:44:09 <supermop_> not going to draw on the warbonnet in 2cc? 18:45:42 <andythenorth> probly not 18:47:14 <supermop_> does anything in IH have a grey/silver body? 18:48:35 <andythenorth> livestock wagons :P 18:48:58 <andythenorth> or everything if you choose grey or white as CC 18:57:54 <andythenorth> heh antelope roster was already heading towards 8/8 http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8537/IH-antelope-8-8.png 18:58:22 <andythenorth> also valid for USA eh :P 19:02:48 *** glx has joined #openttd 19:02:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:04:36 *** greeter has quit IRC 19:05:04 *** greeter has joined #openttd 19:20:56 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:32:39 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:33:21 <Wolf01> Good, reset the xDSL line and got again full bandwidth 19:34:24 <__ln__> full 4mbps? 19:34:45 <Wolf01> A full 3/4 19:35:55 <Wolf01> Perfectly normal 19:36:49 <Wolf01> Router says 4.3Mbps, test says 3.8 20:01:19 <Arveen2> real life download says 3.5 and ISP says 16 :D 20:03:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 20:12:31 <Alberth> and now you hope the remote was not the bottleneck :) 20:13:59 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:14:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: that depends on whether the router accounts for protocol overhead in its calculation 20:14:25 <andythenorth> so how do livery over-rides work then? 20:14:42 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: weird, don't do them 20:14:53 <andythenorth> are they in any way reliable? 20:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: basically, the engine says "if wagon <X> is attached, it should look like <Y>" 20:15:53 <andythenorth> in principle I want that 20:16:05 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: but you could do the same thing by making the wagon check the front engine 20:16:09 <andythenorth> to make unpowered coachs look like railcars when attached to railcars 20:16:24 <andythenorth> I wondered about just doing it in varact2 20:16:36 <andythenorth> I already have code for that 20:17:08 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: then use that, treat wagon override as a deprecated feature 20:17:16 <andythenorth> ok thanks 20:18:14 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause: I know, I should also take account of all the packet errors which is another big overhead 20:18:57 <Wolf01> Wow, no errors so far, usually I have a lot of them 20:21:26 <Wolf01> Also I have 378Kbps up, let's see how long it last 20:26:51 *** orudge`` has joined #openttd 20:27:51 *** orudge` has quit IRC 20:30:33 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:33:16 *** berndj-blackout is now known as berndj 20:38:12 *** orudge`` is now known as orudge` 20:47:31 *** mescalito has quit IRC 20:50:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:51:57 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:57:30 *** debdog has quit IRC 20:57:45 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:02:20 *** debdog has joined #openttd 21:05:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:24:50 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:41:47 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 21:43:27 <eekee> buh? in nuts, meow caboose can't follow meow engine 21:48:21 * eekee uses the caboose alone; boggles at flatbed truck coming out of the depot before engine :) 21:51:38 *** Celestar has joined #openttd 22:05:26 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 22:06:11 *** Celestar has quit IRC 22:09:25 <eekee> pff XD i thought a pick-up station would be ok with not quite enough platforms / queuing area. i was wrong, and the resultant tailback reached the *entire* length of my main line 22:11:18 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 22:14:53 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:18:08 *** debdog has quit IRC 22:23:15 *** debdog has joined #openttd 22:44:59 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 22:45:53 *** gpsoft has quit IRC 22:47:04 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:17:11 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:27:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that happened to me quite a lot in cities skylines 23:35:06 <Wolf01> 'night 23:35:08 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:57:19 *** Flygon has joined #openttd