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00:08:47 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 00:09:08 *** debdog has quit IRC 03:02:26 *** debdog has joined #openttd 03:05:48 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 03:06:51 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 06:02:49 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:09:52 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:12:28 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 07:18:09 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 07:25:18 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:32:18 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:06:20 *** supermop_Home has quit IRC 08:09:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:42:19 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 08:42:32 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 10:04:52 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 10:11:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:47:08 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne approved pull request #159: Doc: Changelog for 0.5.3 https://git.io/JU4be 10:47:14 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne merged pull request #159: Doc: Changelog for 0.5.3 https://git.io/JJIqn 10:49:32 <FLHerne> Oh, damn, I missed something :p 10:52:13 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne opened pull request #160: Fix: Date for 0.5.3 release... https://git.io/JU4bW 10:52:39 <LordAro> lol 10:52:55 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] LordAro approved pull request #160: Fix: Date for 0.5.3 release... https://git.io/JU4b4 10:55:48 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne merged pull request #160: Fix: Date for 0.5.3 release... https://git.io/JU4bW 11:03:17 <andythenorth_> \o/ 11:03:29 <andythenorth_> including release dates in the changelog is possibly lolz 11:04:47 <FLHerne> We should make the release script add them 11:04:59 <FLHerne> I've written a TT-Forums post 11:05:06 <FLHerne> (using the script :D_ 11:05:21 <andythenorth_> awesome 11:05:24 <FLHerne> At this rate, I may recover the time I spent writing that before I die :p 11:05:55 <FLHerne> ...the release script should post on TT-Forums :D 11:06:04 <FLHerne> Does phpBB have any usable API? 11:06:05 <LordAro> lol 11:08:35 <andythenorth_> I bumped the thread title 11:30:43 <TrueBrain> [OpenTTD/nml] FLHerne created new tag: 0.5.3 https://git.io/JU4br 11:30:48 <TrueBrain> clearly .dorpsgek.yml needs fixing :) 12:21:23 *** namad7 has joined #openttd 12:24:33 *** namad7 has quit IRC 12:36:58 *** debdog has quit IRC 12:37:55 *** debdog has joined #openttd 12:41:43 *** tokai has joined #openttd 12:41:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 12:48:42 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 12:59:36 *** supermop_Home has joined #openttd 13:00:00 <supermop_Home> yo 13:33:19 <TrueBrain> the OpenTTD wiki pushes ~120GB a month .. lol 13:33:41 <andythenorth_> do we need an image CDN? :P 13:33:47 * andythenorth_ pure guessing 13:33:49 <andythenorth_> hello supermop_Home 13:34:04 <TrueBrain> if that bandwidth is an issue, we should slap cloudflare in front of it tbfh :P 13:34:12 <TrueBrain> but it just made me giggle how actively used the wiki is 13:34:50 <TrueBrain> owh ... "grfsearch.openttd.org" is not a plain redirect .. it does some logic with the URL parameters .. owh joy :) 13:37:52 <TrueBrain> right, there are like ~10 redirect domains on OpenTTD .. so far I have been making a separate cloudfront for each domain, just because it is easier .. but this will be a bit noisy .. do I care? Hmm, I guess not 13:40:36 <TrueBrain> the migration is starting to near completion .. just a few things remaining I can do, and a few others have to do .. :) 13:43:08 <TrueBrain> owh, and there is still the matter of email .. yes .. I forgot .. 14:08:07 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 14:14:24 <supermop_Home> does Debussy go on the shelf in the D section, or alphabetical by pianist? 14:15:17 <andythenorth_> supermop_Home you are playing the wrong game 14:16:33 <andythenorth_> all physical filing systems suffer from needing to be n-dimensional where they can only (usually) be 1-dimensional 14:16:40 <andythenorth_> this is the same problem as sorting lego 14:17:03 <andythenorth_> or trains 14:17:14 <andythenorth_> supermop_Home there is one true solution however 14:17:16 <andythenorth_> http://www.tenpennydreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Colour-co-ordinated-bookshelves.jpg 14:20:45 <Timberwolf> I did that with my CDs once, before I got to the point where "still fits in the cupboard" became the overwhelming concern of any organisational system. 14:21:57 <andythenorth_> I sold all my CDs 14:22:11 <andythenorth_> and I have been giving away a lot of books on the street 14:22:21 <andythenorth_> I might clear out the lego next 14:33:53 <supermop_Home> i have grown vinyl by about 10" during covid 14:34:03 <supermop_Home> will not be fun next move 14:34:24 <supermop_Home> CDs are long since relocated to parents house 14:36:02 <supermop_Home> I've thought about moving to by label / catalog # 14:37:47 <supermop_Home> andythenorth_ this is my old bosses: https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2fMbQhUoO&id=3C42C78C609ED3C48F3092FF9BCA33C2573ABAB5&thid=OIP._MbQhUoOhfcd85MOWOsbIgHaHa&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.pinimg.com%2foriginals%2fac%2feb%2f75%2faceb75241c495276f5d4cd084cda22c0.jpg&exph=1300&expw=1300&q=color+vitsoe+shelves+records&simid=608016066244971605&ck=4EB67DF50200D0ABB433256F2A8BE641&selectedIndex=4&FORM=IRPRST&ajaxhi 15:25:32 <andythenorth_> supermop_Home that's a really nice picture tonally 15:25:37 <andythenorth_> did I send you the braun site? 15:25:41 <FLHerne> Yeah, my bookshelves are a case of "now where did I last see that?" 15:26:18 <andythenorth_> supermop_Home https://dasprogramm.co.uk/ 15:29:13 <FLHerne> On this shelf next to me, I have a pocket guide to Venice, "Fowler's Modern English Usage, second edition, revised by Sir Ernest Gowers and competely reset", "Animals: tracks, trails and signs", a Pentax camera manual, and "The Tale of jemima Puddle-Duck" 15:29:36 <FLHerne> Oh, and 'Waiting for Godot' 15:31:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never seen any of those 15:37:11 <supermop_Home> andythenorth_ he was well known to us when i worked at vitsoe 15:38:12 <supermop_Home> the color think can work though, if you associate the gestalt of the album cover with the feeling of listening to it 15:38:51 <supermop_Home> something i had in high school when i had maybe 60 CDs, not anymore when my options for listening to music are essentially boundless 15:39:17 <supermop_Home> also if the spine color doesn't match the cover you are screwed 15:39:56 <supermop_Home> i used to collect braun objects for awhile, but not much of the big stuff like my boss 15:40:15 <supermop_Home> the PS500 turntable in that pic is a super rare 60hz version 15:40:46 <supermop_Home> basically made to be sold to USAF officers posted to Rammstein AFB 15:46:56 <Timberwolf> https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2fMbQhUoO&id=3C42C78C609ED3C48F3092FF9BCA33C2573ABAB5&thid=OIP._MbQhUoOhfcd85MOWOsbIgHaHa&mediaurl=https% 15:47:23 <Timberwolf> Damn it. 15:48:24 <Timberwolf> I would like to do the open shelves thing but I imagine with two dogs it'd be a disaster. 15:53:24 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:54:47 <supermop_Home> Timberwolf do your dogs have poor taste in music? 15:56:24 <Timberwolf> They destroyed a Grand Budapest Hotel Blu-Ray, so they're definitely not aligned on film tastes. 16:01:20 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:44:45 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:10:37 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:31:52 <TrueBrain> frosch123: did you know grfsearch.openttd.org has some kind of wacky php script to redirect everything to the grfcrawler with different URL parameters? :P 17:32:31 <frosch123> yes, it's the only time i wrote php 17:32:49 <frosch123> and it was your idea to use php 17:33:02 <TrueBrain> https://gist.github.com/TrueBrain/454c07fe4cb36a67340b7cc6fc2f496d 17:33:06 <TrueBrain> yeah, using PHP is fine 17:33:14 <TrueBrain> but why the change of parameters :P 17:33:32 <TrueBrain> to do with how the client implemented it? 17:33:37 <frosch123> we wanted a sane url for ottd, than we can adapt for whatever 17:33:45 <TrueBrain> ah :) Fair enough :) 17:33:49 <TrueBrain> well, now I need to port this to Javascript :P 17:33:53 <TrueBrain> should be easy enough .. I think 17:33:54 <frosch123> grfcrawler was already considered dead in 2008 17:34:28 <TrueBrain> so we should add something to bananas-web to do this properly, you say? 17:35:06 <frosch123> no, why? 17:35:14 <TrueBrain> more chance on hits! 17:35:25 <TrueBrain> grfcrawler still is .. euh .. empty 17:35:26 <frosch123> ottd already searches bananas 17:35:47 <frosch123> there is no point in reporting bananas stuff in grfsearch 17:35:55 <frosch123> grfsearch is specific for things not on bananas 17:36:03 <TrueBrain> ah .. okay 17:36:06 <TrueBrain> so we keep redirecting it 17:36:07 <andythenorth_> :o grfcrawler 17:36:07 <TrueBrain> fine :P 17:36:10 <andythenorth_> still in use 17:36:22 <frosch123> and thus, i think it's the job of bananas-haters to implement a better grfcrawler 17:36:29 <frosch123> not our job 17:36:37 <TrueBrain> fair enough 17:36:58 <andythenorth_> oh I'm even logged into it 17:37:12 <frosch123> forum sso 17:37:25 <frosch123> what are you doing on forums though :p 17:37:48 <andythenorth_> nml got released 17:38:08 <frosch123> ah, the andy cycle :) 17:38:18 <frosch123> yesterday you told me about quitting nml :p 17:38:24 <andythenorth_> I had to change the topic title as I started it 17:38:34 <andythenorth_> FLHerne released it :D 17:38:51 <andythenorth_> now I just have to do 3 nml tickets, and I can wash my hands of it 17:39:41 <andythenorth_> I have to pay off my NRT debts 17:39:45 <TrueBrain> holy crap, it took me a while to find a server with NewGRFs not on BaNaNaS 17:39:46 <TrueBrain> lol 17:39:56 <andythenorth_> Bananas won 17:40:03 <andythenorth_> except where it didn't 17:40:06 <TrueBrain> it never was losing ;) 17:41:09 <frosch123> did bananas2 win over bananas1 yet? 17:41:59 <TrueBrain> most uses of grfsearch is with an empty search string :) 17:42:31 <frosch123> yes, that's when you just press the button 17:42:42 <frosch123> search by text is when you already searched with text on bananas before 17:42:53 <TrueBrain> I noticed, yes :) 17:42:54 <frosch123> search by grfid is only for savegames 17:42:57 <TrueBrain> about 100 people a day press the button 17:42:58 <frosch123> so, no surprise :) 17:43:02 <TrueBrain> curious people, I am sure :P 17:43:17 <TrueBrain> next-up are some grfids . I am guessing joining a server 17:43:26 <TrueBrain> 3 times a day, on average 17:43:36 <frosch123> my finger also slips sometimes, and i just click something 17:43:38 <TrueBrain> first search-text is zbase 17:43:59 <TrueBrain> cztr next 17:44:03 <TrueBrain> not many text searches 17:44:09 <frosch123> and both are on bananas :p 17:44:12 <TrueBrain> most are savegame/server 17:44:51 <TrueBrain> guess an empty search should go to the frontpage 17:45:06 <TrueBrain> well, should be easy to javascript-ify this 17:45:09 <frosch123> isn't that line 15? 17:45:56 <TrueBrain> main difficulty will be testing if urlencode is needed or not in the land of javascript 17:46:03 <TrueBrain> it really depends on how the query parameters are given 17:46:13 <TrueBrain> and boy this will be difficult to test :D 17:46:31 <frosch123> also, 15% of authors migrated 30% of the packages to bananas2 17:46:36 <frosch123> so, bananas1 is still ahead 17:46:49 <andythenorth_> is there a sunset date? 17:46:55 <TrueBrain> it is BaNaNaS v1.5 ! :P v2 is still in the works :P :P 17:47:09 <frosch123> oh, right 17:47:15 <TrueBrain> andythenorth_: there is .. few months ago :P 17:47:41 <TrueBrain> v1 no longer exists in reality; it is now only a paper tiger 17:48:29 <frosch123> andythenorth_: it's like your 3 ticket list 17:48:41 <frosch123> once everyone has migrated, i can be sure there won't be more mails 17:49:10 <TrueBrain> so never :D 17:49:20 <frosch123> otherwise migration ends when ldap data is lost or so 17:49:56 <TrueBrain> owh, right, you need LDAP for cross validation .. that is a fair point 17:50:16 <TrueBrain> today I almost shut down the VM with grfsearch on it :P 17:50:30 <TrueBrain> it was only that I couldn't find the script, that I found out it was on that VM :D 17:50:48 <TrueBrain> I never updated the motd to tell me that :P 17:53:37 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 17:55:24 <TrueBrain> right, cleaned up the DNS a bit .. 17:55:34 <TrueBrain> so many records that were no longer used :P 17:56:29 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 18:10:10 <supermop_Home> more records in todays mail 18:10:23 <supermop_Home> i need an intervention 18:10:45 <supermop_Home> andythenorth_ one of them is a dieter rams record 18:10:51 <andythenorth_> :o 18:13:30 <supermop_Home> to go on my vitsoe shelf 18:15:44 <supermop_Home> well it is a Brian Eno soundtrack to a dieter rams movie 18:17:07 <supermop_Home> also the RSD re-release of phaedra 18:20:22 <supermop_Home> according to tracking, another will arrive by 8 today 18:34:24 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:37:29 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:00:34 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:29:43 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 19:55:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 20:28:00 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 20:50:02 *** yoyo[m] has joined #openttd 21:25:41 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 21:51:46 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:53:01 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:07:06 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:14:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:53:03 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:33:09 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 23:52:57 *** Progman has quit IRC