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06:50:40 <andythenorth> :P 06:57:40 <peter1138> Buying a company and buying shares shouldn't be separate things, heh 06:59:30 <andythenorth> Railroad Tycoon 3 was an ace business game 06:59:34 <andythenorth> the trains were completely incidental 07:06:19 <dwfreed> I own Railroad Tycoon 2 07:10:00 <Tulitomaatti> i liked how railroad tycoon looked like but never got into the gameplay 07:10:51 <andythenorth> Railroad Tycoon 2 was definitely more train oriented than v3 07:11:06 <andythenorth> v3 was probably the best game ever made in the history of all games 07:11:51 *** tokai has joined #openttd 07:11:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 07:15:06 *** morbidb1rd has quit IRC 07:18:54 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 07:25:33 *** tokai has quit IRC 07:46:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] Kim-Garden opened issue #224: [ko_KR] Translator access request https://git.io/JGYcz 07:47:39 <Tulitomaatti> maybe i should try 3. 07:47:42 <Tulitomaatti> or revisit 2 07:47:52 <Tulitomaatti> i might have been too young when i tried last time 07:48:10 <TrueBrain> yet now too old? :P 07:48:38 <Tulitomaatti> there's only one way to find out 07:49:37 <Tulitomaatti> though, given the fact i do enjoy playing with virtual trains in openttd like real men do, the odds shouldn't be that bad. 07:52:27 *** tokai has joined #openttd 07:52:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 07:54:35 <Tulitomaatti> railroad tycoon 2 came out in 1998. a few years older than i thought. 08:00:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 08:07:02 <TrueBrain> they did poop out new versions like rabbits back in the day 08:09:42 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 08:09:55 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 08:15:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JGLne 08:15:32 <TrueBrain> and ready for review ^^ :) 08:21:51 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 08:22:09 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 08:54:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JGYV8 09:01:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:07:38 <Timberwolf> I quite liked the thing with RRT that you bought shares using your personal account. 09:07:42 * Timberwolf ponders GS things. 09:18:37 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 09:21:27 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:30:06 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 09:30:17 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 09:55:22 *** orudge has quit IRC 09:57:39 *** orudge has joined #openttd 10:30:53 <peter1138> Personal vs Company accounts? 10:31:01 <peter1138> I wonder how that works when you leave the server? :D 11:00:40 <peter1138> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=88938 11:00:45 <peter1138> ^ Nobody uses it I guess ;p 11:15:47 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 11:47:43 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 11:50:59 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 11:53:40 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 11:53:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 11:55:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 11:55:45 <andythenorth> lunch 11:55:47 <andythenorth> pls discuss 11:58:08 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 11:58:30 * LordAro had wagamamas 12:00:39 *** tokai has quit IRC 12:01:04 * andythenorth making fishfinger sandwich 12:01:33 *** tokai has joined #openttd 12:01:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 12:02:58 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 12:03:19 <FLHerne> baked beans on toast 12:03:47 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 12:03:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 12:10:48 *** tokai has quit IRC 12:19:52 <peter1138> Hard boiled egg. 12:28:19 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:28:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:33:27 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 12:38:52 <Timberwolf> Houmous, carrot, celery, chicken. 13:27:20 *** Beer has joined #openttd 13:42:55 *** gelignite has quit IRC 14:00:29 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:00:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:07:28 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 14:45:45 <Xaroth> If you're going with chicken and houmous might I suggest shish taouk for dinner? 14:50:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JGOXv 15:31:52 *** y2kboy23_ has quit IRC 15:33:20 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 15:34:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JGO7U 15:35:57 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 15:39:17 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 15:50:47 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:55:13 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:55:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 16:02:18 *** tokai has quit IRC 16:05:03 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:06:47 *** Compu has joined #openttd 16:07:00 *** Compu has quit IRC 17:07:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #9300: Fix #9281: acquire a company uses special bookkeeping to make you rich https://git.io/JG3IV 17:11:16 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:13:58 <andythenorth> hover zellepins? 17:18:49 <Rubidium> Ped Zellepin? 17:19:52 <andythenorth> no stairway 17:30:12 <peter1138> Chunky stairways? 17:31:42 *** J0anJosep has joined #openttd 17:35:14 <FLHerne> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTpd5LSRO-0 <- Covered bridge livestream 17:35:31 <FLHerne> Someone has driven a large rental truck into it, which is now extremely stuck 17:36:01 <FLHerne> is that an omission from the new bridge specs? 17:36:12 <FLHerne> they should be able to define loading gauge :p 17:38:22 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:43:30 <Rubidium> FLHerne: might be an American design/culture thing. Remember 11'8+8? 18:00:15 <andythenorth> 11-foot-8 18:00:16 <dwfreed> I mean, that looks historical 18:00:32 <andythenorth> the bridge gift that keeps on giving 18:00:46 <dwfreed> 11-foot-8 is also old, and is difficult to change because it's a rail bridge, and the railroad is perfectly happy leaving it 18:03:19 <Rubidium> andythenorth: 11-foot-8 is not 12-foot-4 high. They replaced the bridge not long ago... but they're still crashing into it 18:05:24 <dwfreed> Rubidium: they raised it when they replaced it: http://11foot8.com/raising-11foot8/ 18:05:30 <dwfreed> it is in fact 12 foot 4 now 18:06:53 <dwfreed> well, they didn't replace it, they just raised it 18:15:02 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:19:01 <Rubidium> dwfreed: I know, I just mistyped "now" 18:25:59 <dwfreed> aha 18:53:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JG3Rp 18:55:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JG30g 18:56:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JG3ER 18:58:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JG3EF 19:00:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JG3uq 19:01:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JG3u8 19:03:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JG3uK 19:04:34 <glx> he you can mass reply using review mode ;) 19:04:50 <TrueBrain> which is totally broken for our way of working, I found out 19:04:54 <TrueBrain> if you rebase, things go .. weird 19:05:03 <TrueBrain> and it fails to find conversations etc :P 19:05:17 <glx> even the new beta feature ? 19:05:23 <TrueBrain> especially that :P 19:08:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JG3zG 19:10:42 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:23:56 <TrueBrain> glx: as example, check https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9288/files, try to go to any outdated entry in conversations :) 19:24:06 <TrueBrain> brings me to "We went looking everywhere, but couldn’t find those commits." :( 19:24:26 <TrueBrain> clicking non-outdated does .. nothing 19:25:19 <TrueBrain> I guess it is related to force pushes, but I am not 100% sure 19:25:42 <glx> "Sometimes commits can disappear after a force-push." 19:26:33 <TrueBrain> if with sometimes they mean always, sure 19:26:34 <TrueBrain> :D 19:27:15 <glx> some non-oudated also bring me to the "error" page 19:29:01 <glx> (from conversation tab, but indeed no effect from conversations dropdown 19:29:03 <glx> ) 19:29:26 <TrueBrain> seems it just doesn't like our workflow :) 19:29:54 <glx> but we use a pretty standard workflow 19:30:17 <TrueBrain> force push is disappearing slowly, so not sure what they consider "standard" in that sense 19:30:19 <milek7> I think gerrit handles such things better? 19:30:56 <dwfreed> in general, don't force push until your final rebase before merge 19:31:13 <TrueBrain> "in general", I always love those things :P 19:31:31 <dwfreed> and that rebase should not include any changes, just squashing 19:31:52 <TrueBrain> like it is the truth and the only truth :P 19:31:53 <TrueBrain> hihi :) 19:32:05 <dwfreed> there's a well-hidden link in PRs to see the force push diff 19:32:07 <TrueBrain> so far I have seen GitHub bring support for force pushing relative late to new functionalities 19:32:32 <dwfreed> (click "force-pushed" on the line that says they force pushed) 19:32:41 <TrueBrain> we know :) 19:32:46 <TrueBrain> think frosch123 is still amazed by it :P 19:32:50 <dwfreed> not everybody does, though 19:33:08 <glx> oh converting to draft is well hidden too ;) 19:33:15 <TrueBrain> either way, it feels a bit weird that GitHub doesn't at least detect that their links are broken like this 19:33:21 <TrueBrain> but "beta" :P 19:34:19 <TrueBrain> funny, you can now also force all conversations to be resolved 19:34:28 <TrueBrain> (before you can merge) 19:35:15 <TrueBrain> the other part of our workflow that GitHub doesn't really support, is reviewing PRs commit-by-commit 19:35:28 <TrueBrain> that can also act really weird and unexpected in places 19:35:45 <dwfreed> yeah that's annoying 19:35:53 <glx> yeah but it's so easier for huge PRs (even when the order is weird) 19:36:04 <TrueBrain> which contributes to my believe they don't consider our workflow "mainstream" :) 19:36:07 <dwfreed> you almost end up just having to leave commit comments 19:36:24 <dwfreed> which will then get completely lost in a rebase 19:36:42 <TrueBrain> and they really should add the ability to comment on commit messages 19:36:47 <TrueBrain> that is just annoying as fuck that you cannot 19:36:59 <TrueBrain> but I would guess most projects don't really care about "clean history" like we do 19:37:13 <glx> vcpkg clearly doesn't ;) 19:37:16 <TrueBrain> if they would only allow to see the commit history based on merge-date 19:37:19 <TrueBrain> that would already really help 19:37:25 <glx> so many "merges" there 19:37:35 <TrueBrain> yeah .. I just want a button: don't show merge-commits 19:37:39 <TrueBrain> well, empty-merge-commits 19:37:44 <TrueBrain> and a button: sort by merge-date 19:38:04 <TrueBrain> that would make the "merge" workflow a lot less annoying 19:53:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JG3oE 19:53:27 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 19:53:55 <glx> very late 19:54:06 <TrueBrain> lol, yes indeed 19:56:13 <dwfreed> TrueBrain: we just eliminated merge commits in the one project I'm on; history is completely linear 19:56:20 <dwfreed> (we use rebase-and-merge instead) 19:58:02 <TrueBrain> we do the same; but it is just sad that it is needed honestly 19:58:11 <TrueBrain> there is nothing wrong with (empty) merge commits 19:58:15 <TrueBrain> just .. they are so .. "there" 19:58:19 <TrueBrain> I don't care about them :P 19:58:21 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 19:58:25 <TrueBrain> they are a detail that contains no interest 20:01:34 <TrueBrain> ugh, on one hand our ini-loader is smart 20:01:37 <TrueBrain> on the other hand it is stupid 20:01:41 <TrueBrain> in the wrong balance :P 20:02:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain updated pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JGLne 20:03:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JG3Km 20:04:34 <TrueBrain> ugh .. this is really close to preparing for presets, I realised 20:06:14 <milek7> gerrit seems to make much more sense 20:06:14 <milek7> it handles updating 'patchsets' properly 20:06:34 <milek7> otoh, in it each commit must be a separate review, only connected by depedency chain 20:07:25 <dwfreed> works for some workflows, doesn't for others 20:09:17 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 20:59:37 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:00:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #9302: Change: split check and update callbacks for settings https://git.io/JGtNC 21:01:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #9298: Change: move secrets out of "openttd.cfg" into "secrets.cfg" https://git.io/JG3Mh 21:05:00 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:23:11 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 21:35:39 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:37:37 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 21:38:58 *** NGC3982 has quit IRC 21:39:58 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 21:47:30 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:53:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 21:53:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Terkhen 21:53:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 22:01:25 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:46:30 *** tokai has joined #openttd 22:46:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 22:47:26 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:49:17 *** NGC3982 has quit IRC 22:49:58 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 22:52:01 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 22:53:28 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 22:55:48 *** NGC3982 has quit IRC 22:56:34 *** NGC3982 has joined #openttd 23:33:49 *** frosch123 has quit IRC