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Drag table control onto form. Add ODBC connection. Add onSave function... 10:30:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on issue #9688: [Crash]: Crash on startup / 1.12.1 / MacOs https://git.io/JX9XO 10:31:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #9688: [Crash]: Crash on startup / 1.12.1 / MacOs https://git.io/JX9XO 10:50:30 <andythenorth> my experience is less like visual basic :P 10:51:26 <Timberwolf> The one you have looks more like a Zapier sort of thing at first glance, more for connecting lots of stuff than building internal apps? 10:51:38 <andythenorth> it's a flavour of Zapier yes 10:52:31 <andythenorth> so the main activity goes like 'request access to google service, await authorisation, perform authorisation, navigate google help docs, discover google docs are lacking key information or are lies, solve that, configure integration, dsicover it's not quite useful, try to revoke authorisation, do ISMS paperwork' 10:52:48 <andythenorth> it's quite similar to using Azure :P 10:53:14 <andythenorth> there is very little code, but an awful lot of very anxiety inducing management of access, creds and keys 10:53:59 <andythenorth> I think these things are very hard to do in a high compliance environment 10:54:20 <andythenorth> but the alternative is copy-pasting lots of data around manually, which is also problematic, for integrity and control reasons 11:50:27 <FLHerne> andythenorth: FIRS has this thing where most industries use all the same tile, and then the tiles switch on position and layout_num for graphics 11:50:51 <andythenorth> yes 11:51:01 <FLHerne> Is that just because it's easier to codegen, or does it enable something that wouldn't work otherwise? 11:51:18 <FLHerne> I'm not quite seeing the point ;-) 11:51:57 <FLHerne> (also, I can see a few industries like the steel mill do use multiple tile types, and I haven't figured out why yet :p) 11:56:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] cbeyer commented on issue #9688: [Crash]: Crash on startup / 12.1 / MacOs https://git.io/JX9XO 12:20:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 12:31:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge opened pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXH8v 12:41:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXHBy 12:57:47 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 13:15:49 <andythenorth> FLHerne it's because we'd run out of tiles very quickly 13:16:15 <andythenorth> "OpenTTD can have 512 IDs for all active grf files, but that includes non-overridden original tiles." 13:16:57 <andythenorth> a typical industry might consume 10-20 tiles if unique IDs 13:20:06 <andythenorth> where you see 2 or 3 tiles defined, it relates to static properties like animation or foundations :) 13:28:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXHKi 13:40:54 *** innocenat_ has quit IRC 13:40:57 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 13:42:11 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Oh, wow, that's a surprisingly tiny limit 13:42:22 <FLHerne> Thanks 13:42:28 *** twpol is now known as Guest5608 13:42:30 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 13:42:37 *** twpol has joined #openttd 13:43:04 *** gregdek_ has joined #openttd 13:43:15 <andythenorth> I would guess it's trivially increasable these days, but eh 13:43:15 *** colde_ has joined #openttd 13:43:22 *** innocenat_ has joined #openttd 13:43:23 *** Guest5608 has quit IRC 13:43:27 <andythenorth> the convention of checking the layout works fine 13:43:30 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 13:43:43 *** colde has quit IRC 13:43:43 *** colde_ is now known as colde 13:45:40 *** gregdek has quit IRC 13:45:40 *** gregdek_ is now known as gregdek 13:55:47 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:56:01 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 14:19:38 *** twpol has quit IRC 14:20:02 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 14:20:23 *** colde has quit IRC 14:20:23 *** innocenat_ has quit IRC 14:22:14 *** innocenat_ has joined #openttd 14:22:18 *** gregdek has quit IRC 14:22:21 *** twpol has joined #openttd 14:22:42 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:22:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:23:05 *** gregdek has joined #openttd 14:29:50 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 14:42:49 <FLHerne> blah 14:43:01 <FLHerne> usual cycle, I try to poke OpenTTD and my IDE crashes 14:43:06 *** colde has joined #openttd 14:43:16 <FLHerne> so now I have to recompile KDevelop and find out what that's about 14:43:51 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:50:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] wg25 opened issue #9690: [Bug]: Linking Error on Raspbian OS Buster with OpenTTD 12.1 https://git.io/JXQf8 14:54:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9690: [Bug]: Linking Error on Raspbian OS Buster with OpenTTD 12.1 https://git.io/JXQf8 15:05:10 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 15:24:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] wg25 commented on issue #9690: [Bug]: Linking Error on Raspbian OS Buster with OpenTTD 12.1 https://git.io/JXQf8 15:24:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] wg25 closed issue #9690: [Bug]: Linking Error on Raspbian OS Buster with OpenTTD 12.1 https://git.io/JXQf8 15:50:04 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:23:45 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:23:59 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 16:27:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXQVL 17:07:41 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:20:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXQyJ 17:44:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXQQQ 17:44:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXQQN 17:48:24 <TrueBrain> I was under the impression setting a framework of 10.14 would imply such things already.. lol 17:48:54 <TrueBrain> We should have tested it.. fail on us :D 18:09:00 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:11:42 <frosch123> i ran out of onions, and tried to substitute with garlic. way too much garlic ... :p 18:13:41 <TrueBrain> Thanks for sharing. Please keep 1.5 meters distance .. and not for covid :p 18:14:47 <frosch123> still better than osx compatibility :p 18:30:56 <peter1138> Don't wanna get run over 18:35:43 <TrueBrain> Don't step in front of a car 18:48:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JX7e4 18:48:34 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 19:06:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc closed issue #9680: [Crash]: Loading TTD save causes a crash https://git.io/JX2EV 19:06:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #9689: Add: Specify minimum version for macOS https://git.io/JXH8v 19:07:14 <michi_cc> Huh, was #9680 really supposed to link to this PR? 19:07:28 <TrueBrain> Doubtful 19:07:45 <frosch123> #9688 19:07:50 <frosch123> swapped an 8 for a 0 19:07:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on issue #9680: [Crash]: Loading TTD save causes a crash https://git.io/JX2EV 19:07:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc reopened issue #9680: [Crash]: Loading TTD save causes a crash https://git.io/JX2EV 19:30:20 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 19:57:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #9688: [Crash]: Crash on startup / 12.1 / MacOs https://git.io/JX9XO 19:57:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain closed issue #9688: [Crash]: Crash on startup / 12.1 / MacOs https://git.io/JX9XO 20:17:05 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 20:18:33 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 20:22:51 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 20:24:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:59:21 * andythenorth is now officially a low-code expert 20:59:35 <Xaroth> My condolences. 21:01:48 <andythenorth> I have made my peace with it 21:01:59 <andythenorth> but I have nearly used up all of my monthly subscription 21:02:13 <andythenorth> 10,000 ops / month 21:02:28 <andythenorth> but I've been testing fetching hundreds of records from a json API :P 21:02:32 <andythenorth> and then reading them in a loop 21:02:43 <andythenorth> 'oops' 21:05:57 <andythenorth> hmm wonder if I can POST to a webhook 21:06:02 <andythenorth> with a file attachment 21:06:07 * andythenorth never tried stuff like this 21:08:12 <andythenorth> ok so POST is convention, that's how the payload is done :P 21:08:28 <andythenorth> what about sending file enclosures, not just json? :P 21:08:42 * andythenorth trying to automate Horse publishing without learning S3 client 21:09:07 <frosch123> still lowcode? or are you already back to python? 21:10:02 <andythenorth> well 21:10:17 <andythenorth> I'd have to shell out to curl from a python script to hit the webhook 21:10:28 <andythenorth> or the makefile might be able to do that 21:10:39 <andythenorth> but lowcode otherwise 21:10:55 <andythenorth> the platform has an S3 'compare if file exists' which saves me learning how to do that 21:11:03 <frosch123> can you run a server that provides a python api? 21:11:10 <frosch123> send python code via json, get output? 21:11:52 <andythenorth> 'what could go wrong' 21:12:07 <andythenorth> I have actually run a server that does that, although not for the right reasons 21:12:26 <andythenorth> <texarea id="foo"> -> post -> eval(form.foo) 21:12:38 <andythenorth> sadly we had to close that one 21:12:44 *** esselfe has quit IRC 21:12:57 <andythenorth> it's seen as not best practice, for some reason 21:38:31 <andythenorth> oh curl -F :P 21:38:34 <andythenorth> such simples 21:39:13 <andythenorth> oh the low-code has zip/unzip 21:39:14 <andythenorth> hmm 21:39:40 <andythenorth> or I could just use the S3 browser client and drag the docs over :P 21:51:41 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:52:17 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:58:39 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:24:44 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:31:42 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:54:56 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:34:16 *** Flygon has joined #openttd