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01:33:27 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 53M) 01:33:27 <Brot6> ... I don't know why but, suddenly, I want to discuss declining I.Q. LEVELS with a blue ribbon SENATE SUB-COMMITTEE! 05:17:34 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:31:34 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 05:39:28 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:55:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 06:51:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:05:42 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:37:09 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:24:34 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:43:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:05:39 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #164: GE Genesis with Express Wagon @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/164 (by Ammler) 10:44:30 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:46:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:49:30 *** FooBar_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:50:16 <Ammler> FooBar_: repair your ISP ;-) 13:50:40 <FooBar_> It works, doesn't it? 13:51:12 <FooBar_> by the way, I wouldn't know what I can fix about it apart from sending an email to them... 13:51:15 <Ammler> hehe, yes, it does. :-) 13:51:39 <Ammler> just kidding, I wouldn't do something either. ;-) 13:51:52 <FooBar_> Maybe a modem reboot does something... 13:52:34 <FooBar_> That possibly gives me a new IP and hostname 13:52:35 <Ammler> me is wondering, why my system thinks, that this is a hacking attempt 13:53:02 <Ammler> Jun 11 15:38:00 mozart sshd[3723]: Address 84.30.1.127 maps to cp1295634-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! 13:54:24 <planetmaker> if reverse DNS fails, it reports exactly that. 13:54:47 <Ammler> yep 13:54:50 <planetmaker> as it *could* be two different entities. 13:55:05 <planetmaker> e.g. forgery of an identity. Directing your "hate" to an innocent. 13:55:15 <Ammler> but why should a "hacker" fake the dns? 13:55:26 <planetmaker> so that you cannot track back on him. 13:55:31 <planetmaker> a hacker _has_ to do it. 13:55:35 <Ammler> I would use the ip anyway 13:55:57 <planetmaker> yes. And then anyone knows from which computer the attempt was done. And then the owner has a problem 13:57:07 <Ammler> !host cp1295634-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl 13:57:09 <Brot6> Ammler: cp1295634-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl has address 213.51.87.224 13:58:51 <Ammler> man-in-the-middle ATTACK! 14:01:51 <FooBar_> 213.51.87.224 seems to be in disuse... 14:02:15 <FooBar_> trace and ping both time out 14:02:53 <Ammler> your ISP just forgot to fix that. 14:03:20 <Ammler> you should check, what happens, if you change the IP 14:03:40 <Ammler> if the reverse keeps wrong, an e-mail might be worth. 14:04:12 <Ammler> well, I know it now, if I got an alert, it is foobar :P 14:05:30 <FooBar_> I can't even silently poke around a bit :) 14:05:42 <Ammler> not if you fix your IP :P 14:05:52 <Ammler> don't 14:06:28 <Ammler> my server alerts that loud, a system halt is more silent. 14:10:30 <FooBar_> hmmm... The hostname that I /should/ have times out on a ping or trace, but does have an IP attached to it... 14:11:08 <FooBar_> and that's not my current IP :) 14:11:44 <FooBar_> oh, and just in order to be in time: bye planetmaker! 14:15:22 <planetmaker> hehe :) 14:15:28 <planetmaker> bye FooBar_ and Ammler :) 14:16:04 <Ammler> happy Pisa and put a helm on your head. 14:48:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 13: added mDDm plus other minor changes @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/13 (by DJ Nekkid) 14:48:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 14: forgot the mddm.pcx @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/14 (by DJ Nekkid) 16:18:03 <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r69 to r70, starting nightly compile 16:18:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 47 errors: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opengfx/nightlies/log/ 17:08:31 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:42 <DJNekkid> g'afternoon 17:18:10 <Ammler> heya 17:31:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 71: Fix (r42): Re-fix Bug #87: space-character of newspaper font @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/71 (by foobar) 17:32:44 <Ammler> BEEP! 17:32:50 <DJNekkid> hola 17:42:40 <FooBar_> don't beep so loudly :) 17:42:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 72: Fix (r70): Put "[metadata]" back in .obg file. @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/72 (by foobar) 17:54:10 <Ammler> zephyris is registered, but he didn't activate 18:02:59 <FooBar_> just yet registered or for longer time now? 18:03:28 <FooBar_> maybe he wants a repo for his (e)GRVTS :) 18:04:05 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 18:04:45 <DJNekkid> i'll ask him on msn :) 18:13:45 <DJNekkid> im bored! 18:14:20 <FooBar_> same here... 18:14:33 <FooBar_> plus I don't feel like doing the things that I actually could do... 18:14:40 <DJNekkid> hehe ... i know! 18:14:49 <DJNekkid> and WoW aint fun without my wife playing as well 18:15:31 <DJNekkid> i guess i'll code some dutch trains 18:15:40 <DJNekkid> but, they didnt have a 1800, nor a 1700 included 18:15:51 <DJNekkid> only a 1600 18:16:20 <FooBar_> yeah... most likely because it looks exactly the same... 18:16:34 <DJNekkid> but stats would be different i assume? 18:16:44 <DJNekkid> there is a red one, and a yellow one tho 18:16:48 <DJNekkid> both with black in the middle 18:16:51 <DJNekkid> of the side 18:17:05 <FooBar_> 1600 and 1800 are the same. 1700 should be a bit different, but not much 18:17:24 <DJNekkid> same hp, same TE, same weight? 18:18:16 <FooBar_> 1600 and 1800? yes. The 1800s are renumbered 1600s 18:18:25 <DJNekkid> okei? 18:18:37 <DJNekkid> the point of that is? :p 18:19:40 <FooBar_> when some of the 1600 went from passenger service over to freight service, they decided to renumber the ones that stayed in passenger service 18:19:50 <DJNekkid> aha 18:20:07 <DJNekkid> i see :) 18:20:30 <FooBar_> because passenger and freight service became two different companies at that same time 18:20:45 <DJNekkid> so, the red ones are freight? 18:20:48 <FooBar_> and I think that two companies can't share the same train series number 18:20:53 <FooBar_> yes, the red ones are freight 18:20:56 <DJNekkid> oki... 18:21:14 <DJNekkid> so a "NS 1600/1800" would be a sufficient name then 18:21:36 <FooBar_> although there are some yellow ones in freight as well at the moment. They didn't paint all of them red :P 18:21:46 <FooBar_> yes, that would be a sufficient name I guess 18:23:02 <DJNekkid> btw, is it just me, or do Openttd seem to favor pink as CC ? 18:23:28 <FooBar_> It would be cool (if it's possible that is) if when passenger carriages are attached the engine is always yellow and if cargo wagons are attached that it's a 50/50 chance yellow or red 18:23:56 <DJNekkid> not more like 1/4th is yellow? 18:24:10 <DJNekkid> but that is possible without a problem 18:24:28 <FooBar_> Yes, it appears so indeed. Half of the times I start a new test-game I end up being pink. And I don't like pink for screenshots :P 18:24:49 <FooBar_> I haven't seen much red ones lately... 18:24:59 <FooBar_> Let me see if I can look the exact number up for you... 18:25:04 <DJNekkid> :D 18:26:17 <FooBar_> lol... 18:26:24 <FooBar_> there's exactly one red 1600 18:26:38 <FooBar_> all others are still yellow. They never buggered to repaint them 18:26:43 <DJNekkid> lol 18:29:27 <FooBar_> even more interesting: the red one currently doesn't even exist any more. It went back in passenger service and was therefore repainted yellow... 18:30:04 <DJNekkid> lol! 18:30:20 <DJNekkid> now that is ... well ... 18:30:30 <DJNekkid> waste of code :) 18:30:52 <FooBar_> If you want to do the stats properly you should do 1 in 37 red starting from the year 1999 and all yellows from 2002 18:31:36 <DJNekkid> well, 1 in 32 is doable... 18:31:41 <FooBar_> But since every Dutch train enthusiast knows that single red engine, I'd say do 1 in 4 red starting form 1999 and keeping it that way 18:32:09 <DJNekkid> i guess 1 in 37 actually _is_ doable... 18:32:13 <FooBar_> Even I thought the red one was still around... 18:32:18 <DJNekkid> or atleast 1/38 18:32:31 <FooBar_> 1 in 37 is not fun for the purpose of the game really... 18:33:06 <DJNekkid> nah 18:33:24 <FooBar_> Unless you want the set to be 100% realistic... 18:33:36 <DJNekkid> cant be done tho 18:33:44 <DJNekkid> but it would be a fun thing to code :p 18:34:42 <DJNekkid> or no 18:34:46 <DJNekkid> cant be done 18:34:51 <DJNekkid> hmm ... 18:36:04 <FooBar_> 1 in 37 should be doable... 18:36:45 <FooBar_> or not... 18:36:53 <FooBar_> well, I give up 18:37:01 <FooBar_> just do 1 in 4 and you're golden... 18:37:24 <DJNekkid> if i do ... 18:37:31 <DJNekkid> 31 in 32 times it's yellow 18:37:46 <DJNekkid> and the last time it chooses another random 18:37:52 <FooBar_> difference between 1600/1800 and 1700: the 1700 is two tons heavier, all else is the same 18:37:53 <DJNekkid> where like 7 of 8 times its red 18:39:01 <DJNekkid> that should be somewhere near close :) 18:40:20 <FooBar_> well, do whatever you like to do. It's your code after all ;) 18:40:20 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:40:40 <FooBar_> Hi Beardie! 18:41:17 <Beardie> Hello 18:41:18 <DJNekkid> hi B :) 18:41:25 <Beardie> Hey DJ 18:43:07 <FooBar_> anyways, I think I'm gonna hit the shower and watch some tv after that 18:43:27 <Beardie> ok 18:43:39 <FooBar_> see you around all 18:43:40 <Beardie> what you going to watch? 18:43:58 <Beardie> lol i think hes gone :p 18:44:00 <FooBar_> megabuilders on the discovery channel 18:44:05 <Beardie> o cool 18:44:09 <Beardie> bye 18:44:16 <FooBar_> cya 18:46:15 <Beardie> humm dj? 18:46:28 <Beardie> when i commit do i need a push? 18:47:52 <andythenorth> yup 18:47:57 <andythenorth> did you pull first? 18:50:40 <Ammler> DJNekkid: there is a grf, which replaces pink with black, or was it lila? 18:51:07 <DJNekkid> there is a grf that replace something with black, but i cant remember what color 18:51:34 <Ammler> @wiki GRF_Table 18:51:37 <Webster> GRF Table 7.3 - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=GRF_Table 18:52:22 <Ammler> purple and mouve 18:52:41 <Ammler> but I guess, it would be easy changed to pink ;- 18:52:44 <Ammler> ) 18:53:07 <Beardie> sorry guys 18:53:09 <Beardie> ammler 18:53:23 <Beardie> the grfcodec has been pushed again by accident 18:53:27 <Beardie> this time 18:53:31 <Beardie> i had it in the fodler 18:53:40 <Beardie> and Dj told me to push so i did 18:53:53 <Ammler> want me to rollback again? 18:54:02 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 8: Updated Tracking Table, BA landor A320-200 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/8 (by Beardie27) 18:54:14 <Beardie> should i just remove the files? 18:54:18 <Beardie> can i do that 18:54:25 <Ammler> NO FORBIDDEN BINARIES IN THE REPOS ;-) 18:54:28 <DJNekkid> hg remove grfcodec.exe 18:54:30 <DJNekkid> altho 18:54:31 <Beardie> ok 18:54:35 <DJNekkid> that deletes the files also 18:54:38 <Beardie> ok 18:54:39 <DJNekkid> so make a backup first 18:54:49 <Beardie> backup? 18:54:51 <DJNekkid> copy grfcodec.exe grfc.exe 18:54:55 <Beardie> o yes lol 18:54:55 <Ammler> well, no exes at all 18:54:56 <DJNekkid> hg remove grfcodec.exe 18:55:07 <DJNekkid> ren grfc.exe grfcodec.exe 18:55:11 <Ammler> you could also just hg rollback 18:55:29 <Beardie> i update other things aswell 18:56:16 <Ammler> and in general, try to make one commit per job 18:56:31 <Beardie> ok 18:56:39 <Ammler> so if you make different planes, do commit them seperatly 18:56:41 <Beardie> i only updated one thing 18:56:48 <Beardie> anyway 18:56:49 <Ammler> so you can have a nice history 18:57:06 <Beardie> ok 18:57:14 <andythenorth> Beardie: I made a few mistakes at first too ;) 18:57:16 <Beardie> i remove the files 18:57:16 <Ammler> which is easy revertable 18:57:30 <Beardie> do i need a commit after removal? 18:57:34 <Beardie> or a push? 18:57:39 <Ammler> yep 18:57:50 <Beardie> yep doesn't help lol 18:57:54 <Ammler> yep 18:57:56 <Beardie> which one you yepping to lol 18:57:57 <Ammler> (both) 18:58:00 <Beardie> ok ty 18:58:08 <Ammler> :-D 18:58:25 <Ammler> hg rm file 18:58:27 <Ammler> hg ci 18:58:30 <Ammler> hg push 18:58:46 <Beardie> sorted 18:58:48 <Beardie> ty 18:59:08 <Beardie> bbl 18:59:09 <Beardie> bye 18:59:24 <Ammler> if you like to keep grfcodec in the folder 18:59:30 <Ammler> add it to the ignore list 18:59:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 9: Tools removed @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/9 (by Beardie27) 19:00:53 <Ammler> the exes are now hidden :-) 19:03:50 <Ammler> (but still there) 19:10:02 <DJNekkid> what number is length callback again? 19:14:30 <DJNekkid> 11 19:16:05 <DJNekkid> zyph inc 19:16:28 *** Zephyris has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:21:11 <Zephyris> boo 19:22:38 <andythenorth> hi here too 19:22:59 <DJNekkid> Ammler 19:23:03 <DJNekkid> *beeo* 19:23:07 <DJNekkid> -o+p 19:23:26 <Ammler> hello 19:23:50 <Beardie> Hello Guys 19:23:57 <DJNekkid> here is Zephyris for ya 19:23:57 <Ammler> sali Zephyris :-) 19:24:07 <Ammler> didn't the registration work? 19:24:13 <andythenorth> Zephyris: activated but not registered at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/ :D 19:24:17 <andythenorth> ?? 19:24:23 <andythenorth> or vice versa (sorry) 19:24:25 <Beardie> for me Dj? 19:24:29 <Zephyris> oh yeah 19:24:34 <DJNekkid> for Ammler Beardie 19:24:34 <andythenorth> I'm in a hideous world of svn 19:24:37 <Zephyris> i remember now, i think i never got the email thro 19:24:38 <andythenorth> and learning unit tests 19:24:39 <Beardie> ok DJ 19:24:45 <Zephyris> may well have been a typo in my addy 19:24:47 <andythenorth> check your junk filter, mine went there 19:24:58 <Ammler> ah ok 19:25:01 <Zephyris> ah 19:25:02 <Ammler> then I remove it 19:25:03 <Zephyris> caught it 19:25:07 <Zephyris> hang on! 19:25:11 <Zephyris> fount the email! 19:25:15 <Ammler> ok :-) 19:25:25 <andythenorth> I thought I paid someone else to write the unit tests :( 19:27:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 15: added the LighTTrein @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/15 (by DJ Nekkid) 19:27:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 16: for got to add the new files, AGAIN! @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/16 (by DJ Nekkid) 19:27:56 <DJNekkid> hmm, perhaps 32 tons for a 4 part unit (tho not full length) is a bit too light :) 19:28:21 <Ammler> DJNekkid: has always nice commts ;-) 19:28:42 <DJNekkid> well, they are getting somewhere arent them? 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19:36:47 *** Beardie has quit IRC 19:40:38 <Zephyris> So this repo looks pretty awesome! 19:41:01 <andythenorth> hg is very nice :) And the web interface is neat 19:41:54 <Ammler> "this"? 19:42:02 <Ammler> there are some more :-) 19:42:41 <Ammler> Zephyris: ever worked with ssh? 19:42:55 <DJNekkid> *the hard part* 19:43:08 <Zephyris> a little 19:43:12 <Ammler> psst 19:43:26 <Ammler> do you have a ssh public key? 19:43:28 <andythenorth> I want to make all previous versions of HEQS grfs available somewhere. is this a good place: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/files 19:43:40 <andythenorth> (sorry two conversations at once) 19:43:42 <Zephyris> ah 19:43:54 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Welcome 19:44:05 <Ammler> andythenorth: yes, for now 19:44:12 <Zephyris> Cool 19:44:20 <Zephyris> ill have a look through that 19:44:28 <Zephyris> not sure I have the time atm... 19:44:38 <andythenorth> Ammler: is there a chance that tagged versions will get compiled and added to a page automagically in future? 19:44:39 <Ammler> if we have the nightly farm finished, we will have them there 19:44:47 <andythenorth> ok 19:44:52 <Ammler> Zephyris: put for first create a ssh key 19:44:56 <Ammler> but* 19:45:01 <andythenorth> Zephyris: ssh is quick 19:45:14 <Ammler> andythenorth: theoretically it did alredy 19:45:18 <andythenorth> took me about 5 mins (on the mac), 4 mins was finding the instructions 19:45:26 <Ammler> but it had some bugs, and I need to change it. 19:46:06 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #165: Sort DC9 series greyscales @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/165 (by extspotter) 19:46:06 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #166: Sort DC10 greyscale @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/166 (by extspotter) 19:46:14 <Ammler> well no hurry, if you have a key, poke me or foobar 19:47:56 <Ammler> Zephyris: you can already comment tickets and such, so if you don't have much time, but like to "share" oppinions, please do. 19:48:26 <Zephyris> im just doing the public key now! :) 19:48:32 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:48:39 <Beardie> anyone there? 19:48:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - heqs-0.4d.zip @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/159/heqs-0.4d.zip (by andythenorth) 19:49:01 <Ammler> where? 19:49:12 <Beardie> here lol 19:49:35 <Beardie> do i commit for every file i add? 19:49:52 <Beardie> just made 5 .pcxs 19:50:08 <Ammler> I would, commit and push 19:50:14 <Beardie> 5 times 19:50:17 <Beardie> :) 19:50:21 <andythenorth> Beardie: generally. It makes it easier for other people to follow commits, and for you to revert changes 19:50:27 <Ammler> well, you can add them together 19:50:28 <Beardie> ok cool 19:50:48 <Ammler> if they belong somehow together 19:51:08 <Beardie> well they are 5 different colour schemes of a A320-200 19:51:19 <Zephyris> cool, anyone ready for a public key? 19:51:23 <Ammler> just think about, if you change something, you should be able to revert it, without revert something unrelated 19:51:46 <Ammler> yes :-) 19:51:48 <Beardie> ok i'll add them all seperate ammler all the time then there is no error 19:52:02 <Ammler> do you have a url? 19:52:25 <Zephyris> i have a key, no url sadly 19:52:29 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - heqs_preview_v0.4.grf @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/160/heqs_preview_v0.4.grf (by andythenorth) 19:52:30 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - heqs_preview_v0.4c.grf @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/161/heqs_preview_v0.4c.grf (by andythenorth) 19:52:30 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - HEQS_User_Guide_v0.4.pdf @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/162/HEQS_User_Guide_v0.4.pdf (by andythenorth) 19:52:32 <Ammler> well, those seems to belong together :-) 19:52:50 <DJNekkid> Beardie: imho: a new plane, no matter how many liveries, is suitable for one commit 19:52:55 <andythenorth> Beardie: they are all variations on one vehicle. I would commit those together 19:52:58 <DJNekkid> unless you do 5 now, and 5 tomorrow 19:53:07 <Ammler> Zephyris: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfdev/files 19:53:09 <andythenorth> if they were two different vehicles, I'd do two commits 19:53:13 <Ammler> we can remove it after 19:53:29 <Ammler> I have my key public all the time, it doesn't hurt 19:56:04 <Ammler> Zephyris: you are still not activated :-( 19:56:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 18: added HSA, this time with files and correct weight :P @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/18 (by DJ Nekkid) 19:56:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #167: Sort 747-200/-400D/-400F(SCD)/-400F(BCF) Greyscales @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/167 (by extspotter) 19:57:13 <Ammler> Beardie: because you aren't alone developing on WAS, you should always pull -u before commit 19:57:50 <Zephyris> Hmmm, yeah, not sure whats going on. The activation link doesnt seem to do anything! 19:57:55 <Ammler> oh well, that was just a bug report, thought is a commit :-) 19:59:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 10: Added 5 A320-200 pcx Files @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/10 (by Beardie27) 19:59:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #168: BAC1-11 Greyscales @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/168 (by extspotter) 20:00:18 <Beardie> i understand the pulling ammler :) 20:01:27 <DJNekkid> Ammler: cant we unbold brot? 20:01:35 <Ammler> we can 20:02:04 <DJNekkid> it's so noisy... 20:02:04 <Ammler> Zephyris: you have now write access to all repos of the devzone 20:02:21 <Zephyris> Sweet :) 20:02:40 <Ammler> but we do only write to repos we are at least dev 20:03:06 <Zephyris> yeah 20:03:25 <Ammler> but I guess, andythenorth will add you as dev to firs soon ;-) 20:03:55 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #167: Sort 747-200/-400D/-400F(SCD)/-400F(BCF) Greyscales @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/167 (by extspotter) 20:03:55 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #169: Dash 8 Greyscale @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/169 (by extspotter) 20:03:55 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #170: Update Tracking Table @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/170 (by extspotter) 20:04:49 <andythenorth> I am sitting here hitting refresh on the 'members' list waiting for you too popup... 20:05:10 <Ammler> hmm, dosn't? 20:05:14 <Beardie> Dj frank has reigstered can you add him to the contributors 20:05:21 <andythenorth> done 20:05:29 <Ammler> maybe there is really something broken with his nick :-) 20:05:36 <andythenorth> registered you as a developer 20:05:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #171: Fix Eoin's Flyglobespan 737-800 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/171 (by extspotter) 20:05:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #172: Fix extspotter's Ryanair 737-800 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/172 (by extspotter) 20:05:52 <andythenorth> what permissions do the different roles confer? 20:05:54 <DJNekkid> sure can 20:06:09 <DJNekkid> in matter of facy Beardie, so can you :) 20:06:16 <andythenorth> Beardie: my 'done' above was in reference to Zephyris, not DJ Frank :) 20:06:19 <DJNekkid> settings -> members 20:06:36 <andythenorth> Zephyris: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/ 20:06:38 <Ammler> andythenorth: currently they are just for the web frontend 20:06:46 <Beardie> i got it andy :) 20:06:48 <DJNekkid> DJ Frank? whos that? *messing even more with peoples heads* 20:07:07 <Beardie> lol 20:07:10 <Beardie> Just "Frank" 20:07:11 <andythenorth> <embarassed> 20:07:12 <Ammler> Manger does everything to the project, adding members etc. defining versions and such 20:07:38 <Ammler> Developer does constibute and also write to the repo 20:07:50 <Ammler> constributor doesn't write to the repo 20:08:02 <Ammler> (adding stuff with tickets) 20:08:33 <Ammler> but the devzone is new, if you have ideas or wahtever, just tell/ask whatever) 20:08:40 <andythenorth> looks pretty sane to me 20:08:51 <Ammler> post a tikcet here: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Welcome 20:09:06 <Beardie> ok thanks ammler 20:09:17 <Beardie> i will suggest anything that i can think off as time goes on 20:09:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #173: Finish the Malev F70 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/173 (by extspotter) 20:09:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #174: Finish the Turkish 737-800 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/174 (by extspotter) 20:09:45 <Ammler> Beardie: just don't expect to have it done the other day :-) 20:11:01 <Beardie> emm you sentence confuses me lol 20:11:47 <Beardie> DJ can you add "faddypainter" to contributors please :) 20:12:05 <DJNekkid> sure can, but so can you :) 20:12:18 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:12:21 <Beardie> o lol i am manager 20:13:10 <Beardie> DJ you not need to me Developer? 20:13:12 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #175: Redo Aer Lingus 737-200 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/175 (by extspotter) 20:13:12 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #176: Redo Astraeus 737-700 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/176 (by extspotter) 20:13:15 <Beardie> be* 20:14:17 <DJNekkid> i have no idea 20:14:22 <DJNekkid> it's your project dude... :) 20:14:53 <DJNekkid> i just thought that when you get stuck, you need help, thus me beeing a bit dev every now and then :p 20:17:38 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 19: some HSA tweaks @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/19 (by DJ Nekkid) 20:19:33 <Beardie> ok DJ thanks :) 20:24:28 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #177: Add sound for existing aircraft @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/177 (by FaddyPainter) 20:24:28 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #178: A380 Qantas @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/178 (by Frank) 20:30:27 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #179: Sort out "flashing" orange problems on easyjet and Iberia @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/179 (by extspotter) 20:33:31 <Ammler> beardie, if you like a roadmap, you need to add versions 20:33:42 <Ammler> and then assign the bug/features to it. 20:35:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:37:31 <Beardie> emm whats that mean 20:38:45 <Ammler> check project opengfx or 2cc 20:38:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 11: Added Basic A320-200 NFO, Still Needs Work @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/11 (by Beardie27) 20:38:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #180: A380 Singapore @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/180 (by FaddyPainter) 20:39:01 <Beardie> ok 20:39:14 <Ammler> there is a tab roadmap, where you can see , what needs done until next release. 20:40:09 <Ammler> the titles of the roadmap are versions: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/settings/versions 20:40:37 <Beardie> ok 20:41:05 <Beardie> by the way cna i change it From "World Airline Set" to "World Airliners Set" 20:41:12 <Beardie> will that change the URL? 20:41:17 <Beardie> title of the project? 20:42:46 <Ammler> Beardie: no 20:42:52 <Ammler> you can't change the url anymore 20:43:09 <Ammler> would you like to? 20:43:30 <Ammler> that would also need changes of the repo 20:44:28 <Beardie> well its just mean to be "Airliners" and not "Airline" 20:44:37 <Beardie> if its simple then ok 20:44:40 <Beardie> but sounds hard to do 20:45:07 <Ammler> hmm? 20:45:16 <Beardie> meant* 20:45:20 <Ammler> not hard to do, just you will lose your current urls 20:45:33 <Beardie> look just keep it 20:45:43 <Beardie> as it is 20:45:47 <Ammler> I could change it on the db 20:45:52 <Beardie> db? 20:45:55 <Ammler> but you can change the title 20:46:13 <Ammler> the backend is a mysql db 20:46:17 <Beardie> how do i change the title 20:46:49 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/settings/info 20:47:33 <Ammler> DJNekkid: now we have the disadvantage of the name instead of the short ;-) 20:47:43 <Ammler> if the longer name is wrong :P 20:47:59 <Beardie> its only the url 20:48:11 <Beardie> i am not bothered the title change is fine 20:48:52 <Ammler> it is up2you 20:49:00 <DJNekkid> Ammler: hehe! 20:49:02 <DJNekkid> was it was! 20:49:11 <Beardie> it was wrong lol 20:49:23 <Ammler> was was right 20:49:32 <Beardie> extaclly lol 20:49:39 <DJNekkid> but you saied was was wrong! 20:49:42 <DJNekkid> you didnt want was! 20:49:42 <Ammler> maybe we can change it now 20:49:45 <Beardie> but was was not allowed 20:49:50 <Ammler> since it is very new 20:49:55 <DJNekkid> you wanted was to become something else it was'nt supposed to be! 20:50:02 <DJNekkid> wasn't 20:50:02 <Ammler> was was allowed 20:50:04 <Ammler> but 20:50:15 <Ammler> was wasn't very clear, was it was 20:50:36 <Beardie> no was was not 20:50:39 <Beardie> clear 20:50:45 <Ammler> :-) 20:50:56 <DJNekkid> im actually loling here! 20:50:58 <Brot6> feed DevZone had 14 updates, showing the latest 10 20:50:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #171: Fix Eoin's Flyglobespan 737-800 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/171 (by extspotter) 20:50:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #172: Fix extspotter's Ryanair 737-800 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/172 (by extspotter) 20:50:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #173: Finish the Malev F70 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/173 (by extspotter) 20:50:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #175: Redo Aer Lingus 737-200 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/175 (by extspotter) 20:51:02 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #176: Redo Astraeus 737-700 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/176 (by extspotter) 20:51:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #177: Add sound for existing aircraft @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/177 (by FaddyPainter) 20:51:08 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #178: A380 Qantas @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/178 (by Frank) 20:51:11 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #179: Sort out "flashing" orange problems on easyjet and Iberia @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/179 (by extspotter) 20:51:12 <Beardie> wooo 20:51:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 11: Added Basic A320-200 NFO, Still Needs Work @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/11 (by Beardie27) 20:51:16 <Beardie> whats going on 20:51:18 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #180: A380 Singapore @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/180 (by FaddyPainter) 20:51:22 <Beardie> i have seen this before 20:51:29 <Beardie> ammler? 20:51:41 <Beardie> this allready come up before 20:52:12 <Ammler> hmm, sometimes 20:52:19 <Ammler> rss is fucked up 20:52:56 <Beardie> lol 20:52:56 <Ammler> we will change that anyway too, as djn requested 20:53:33 <DJNekkid> its a tad noisy as it is now... 20:54:17 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #181: A320-200 NFO @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/181 (by Beardie27) 20:54:46 <Beardie> yes hard to read what people are typing in between it 20:56:01 <DJNekkid> it almost look like some kind of porn-spam 20:56:20 <Ammler> hehe 20:56:45 <DJNekkid> get your cheap pussy here! 20:57:17 <Beardie> lol 20:58:39 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Feature #182: Replace RSS Feed with hooks... @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/182 (by Ammler) 20:58:47 <Beardie> lol 20:59:24 <DJNekkid> ^^ 20:59:33 <DJNekkid> well ... 20:59:49 <DJNekkid> we are getting a quite knowledable userbase here now 21:00:24 <Beardie> i can see :) 21:01:55 <DJNekkid> anyone feel like makeing a #openttdcoop.devzone banner? 21:03:25 <Ammler> :-) 21:03:38 <Ammler> even #openttdcoop hasn't one 21:11:23 <FooBar_> DJNekkid: I'm here now, so if you still need me... 21:11:43 <Ammler> FooBar_: you should add Zeph to opengfx ;-) 21:11:53 <FooBar_> Ammler: Just did that :) 21:12:19 <Ammler> and assigned all tickets :-P 21:12:35 <FooBar_> lol 21:14:52 <DJNekkid> FooBar_: i cant remember what i were to ask you 21:15:10 <FooBar_> something about dutch trains most likely... :) 21:15:42 <FooBar_> You asked if I was still here or if I was watching the telly. If that helps... 21:15:59 <DJNekkid> not reall 21:16:00 <DJNekkid> y 21:16:10 <DJNekkid> but yes, it were somthing about dutch trains :) 21:16:17 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/164/banner.png (by DJNekkid) 21:17:31 <Ammler> hehe 21:17:40 <DJNekkid> suppsed to be transparent tho 21:17:58 <Ammler> yeah, do you like to make a grf with? ;-) 21:18:12 <DJNekkid> ..?? 21:19:29 <FooBar_> That blue is only transparent in TTD ;) 21:19:43 <Ammler> that is what I meant :P 21:19:53 <DJNekkid> i swear it were that on a 2cc banner alsp 21:19:55 <DJNekkid> also 21:19:57 <Ammler> hmm, I abit smaller 21:20:54 <Ammler> maybe <small>#openttdcoop.</small>DevZone ... 21:22:23 <Ammler> http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/signature/coop-smallsig.gif <-- this is big enough, imo. 21:22:42 <DJNekkid> and voila 21:22:42 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/165/banner.png (by DJNekkid) 21:23:35 <FooBar_> Do the subtitle like #openttdcoop: "Boldly *coding* what others only dare to dream"... 21:24:55 <DJNekkid> hehe! 21:25:08 <Ammler> now we habe coop players and coop arthists/coders :-) 21:26:35 <Ammler> andythenorth: firs is just "stuff" ;-) 21:30:20 <DJNekkid> http://redmine.ammler.ch/attachments/download/166/banner.png 21:31:10 <Ammler> isn't there a typo? 21:31:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/166/banner.png (by DJNekkid) 21:31:51 <FooBar_> yes, there is 21:32:17 <FooBar_> now we're like coding without hair on our heads :P 21:32:25 <DJNekkid> rofl! 21:32:33 <Ammler> first I read "badly building... 21:32:38 <Ammler> or coding 21:32:55 <DJNekkid> i can ensure you foobar, my head is too full of hair! 21:32:56 <Ammler> which might in some cases be true :P 21:33:09 <DJNekkid> my wife bugs be all the time... "go get a haircut" 21:33:15 <FooBar_> lol 21:33:26 <DJNekkid> http://redmine.ammler.ch/attachments/download/167/banner.png 21:33:31 <FooBar_> also it's "what" and not "where" 21:33:45 <FooBar_> and "others" instead of "other" 21:33:48 <Ammler> DJNekkid: then you should make a complete cut with shave 21:33:52 <FooBar_> and "dream" instead of "dream" 21:34:04 <Ammler> so you women won't say that again 21:34:29 <FooBar_> if you do that, you can leave "baldly" in I guess :) 21:35:23 <Ammler> and use project "guide" for general stuff 21:35:50 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 12: Added Four Planes To 737-400 Tracking Table @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/12 (by Beardie27) 21:35:50 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/167/banner.png (by DJNekkid) 21:36:39 <FooBar_> and it's "coding" instead of "codeing" ;) 21:37:10 * Ammler is wondering, if I should add my complete system config to a hg repo 21:38:17 <DJNekkid> http://redmine.ammler.ch/attachments/download/168/banner.png 21:38:18 <DJNekkid> any better? 21:38:29 * FooBar_ wonders why Ammler is wondering if he should add his complete system config to a hg repo 21:38:31 <DJNekkid> coding? isnt that like fishing cod? :) 21:38:50 <FooBar_> that would be codding I guess... 21:38:51 <Ammler> like a backup solution 21:38:52 <FooBar_> check google 21:38:57 <FooBar_> he'll tell you 21:39:01 <Ammler> now I don't have histroy in my backup 21:39:12 <DJNekkid> as in ... "im gonna go coding at the fjord this weekend" 21:39:31 <FooBar_> do you always bring a computer to a fjord? 21:39:32 <DJNekkid> hmm 21:39:40 <DJNekkid> *on 21:39:47 <DJNekkid> optionally in 21:39:49 <DJNekkid> :p 21:39:52 <FooBar_> Ammler: you might have a point there... 21:40:15 <DJNekkid> anyway 21:40:20 <Ammler> good night 21:40:22 <DJNekkid> what would be the correct spelled term? 21:40:23 <Ammler> :P 21:40:33 <Ammler> oh, not that :-) 21:40:36 <DJNekkid> we fish stuff in gpl? 21:40:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:40:39 <FooBar_> "Boldly coding what others only dare to dream" 21:40:39 <DJNekkid> :p 21:41:06 <FooBar_> even Andy is tired by our bad English knowledge here :) 21:41:08 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/168/banner.png (by DJNekkid) 21:41:12 <FooBar_> Ammler: good night! 21:41:13 <Ammler> and what about the drawers? 21:41:27 <Ammler> FooBar_: I thought, DJNekkid will :-) 21:41:37 <Ammler> but I will soon too 21:41:49 <FooBar_> oh...hehe 21:42:10 <FooBar_> well, not good night then. At least not for now :P 21:42:22 <Ammler> hehe, "in GPL" 21:42:50 <DJNekkid> http://redmine.ammler.ch/attachments/download/169/banner.png 21:42:52 <DJNekkid> anyway ... 21:42:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/169/banner.png (by DJNekkid) 21:42:57 <DJNekkid> that should be quite final and correct? 21:43:04 <FooBar_> maybe just "we do stuff" 21:43:18 <Ammler> GPL=Grfs for Public L?? 21:43:27 <FooBar_> is correct now by the anyway 21:43:39 <Ammler> "we do stuff :-o" 21:44:26 <DJNekkid> "we code the stuff you use" 21:44:49 <FooBar_> Grfs for Public Leisure 21:45:46 <FooBar_> but then there's not only grfs, IS and AP as well, amongst others... 21:45:57 <FooBar_> mainly grfs though :) 21:46:07 <Ammler> yes 21:46:08 <DJNekkid> i.e. 21:46:14 <Ammler> AP is just archive things 21:46:14 <DJNekkid> "we code the stuff you use" 21:46:40 <FooBar_> DJNekkid: you already said that ;) 21:46:48 <Ammler> and the coopetition ladder of XeryusTC 21:47:25 <FooBar_> I filed that under "amongst others" :P 21:47:56 <Ammler> http://hg.opensource.lshift.net/mercurial-server/file/db219a5a14f8/README <-- I might install that for the longer terms. 21:47:57 <Webster> Title: mercurial-server: README@db219a5a14f8 (at hg.opensource.lshift.net) 21:48:42 <Ammler> would allow usermanagement over hg repo 21:48:53 <FooBar_> that might be nice if it gets real busy 21:49:42 *** Zephyris has quit IRC 21:49:46 <Ammler> on the other side, I like how it is now, everyone could theoretcially write everywhere :-) 21:50:18 <FooBar_> currently it saves the hassle if someone wants to work on a different project as well 21:51:03 <Ammler> well, if I install that, it should then write the access file from the redmine database 21:51:39 <FooBar_> and as long as people can prevent themselves from committing where they shouldn't, the current setup works just as good 21:51:54 <Ammler> yeah 21:52:15 <Ammler> and you if someone really gets annoyed, we can rollback/stripe 21:53:08 <FooBar_> exactly. And if someone misbehaves in case of the mercurial-server setup, he or she needs to be banned manually anyways. 21:54:04 <Ammler> hehe, it is like on our public game server :-) 21:54:43 <Ammler> well, it is very similar, playing in the same company or developing together. 21:55:12 <Ammler> it needs a kind of communication and decipline 21:55:29 <FooBar_> in fact it is indeed. Never thought about it that way... 21:55:30 <Ammler> (might have some spelling errors) 21:56:27 <Ammler> yeah, and the word #openttdcoop somehow fits here as well. :-) 21:58:29 <FooBar_> :) 22:11:18 <Ammler> WELL, good night all 22:11:35 <FooBar_> good night! 22:17:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 13: Sorted A320 Co-ordinates File for A320 Plane @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/13 (by Beardie27) 22:20:53 *** Beardie has quit IRC 22:21:51 <FooBar_> well, I'm off as well. Good night. 22:29:52 *** FooBar_ has quit IRC