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(r72) 16:23:56 <Ammler> :-( 17:25:30 * Ammler added AdSense to the DevZone 18:25:26 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:33:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:40:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:02:00 <planetmaker> restarted mysql 20:02:39 <Ammler> hmm 20:03:23 <planetmaker> is there actually something like restart instead of stop and start? 20:14:34 <Ammler> yes 20:14:40 <Ammler> it is called restart :P 20:17:26 <planetmaker> ok :) 21:01:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Support #244 (Assigned): Re-wamp makesystem @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/244#change-555 (by planetmaker) 21:01:54 <planetmaker> ^ Ammler can you check / test whether that's how it should work? 21:06:00 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 81: Change: remove deprecated config setting @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/81 (by planetmaker) 21:07:19 <Frankr> planetmaker? 21:07:27 <planetmaker> jo, Frankr ? 21:08:16 <Frankr> i have found an error in the Infra Structure Sharing which i thought i would inform u about 21:08:33 <planetmaker> oh? 21:08:51 <planetmaker> you should make a bug report at the dev zone then :) 21:08:55 <Frankr> when using shared airports another add on if u click on the shared airport hanger the game crashes 21:09:16 <planetmaker> that's very bad :( 21:10:01 <Frankr> ok i'll make one now 21:10:04 <planetmaker> can you make a ticket here at devzone in the infrastructure sharing project concerning that? 21:10:05 <planetmaker> :) Thanks 21:10:42 <Ammler> planetmaker: why should release install the pack? 21:10:54 <Ammler> or is that meant to support nightly farm? 21:11:01 <planetmaker> Ammler: not sure. But I thought, if we do a release, we want to have it ingame, too :) 21:11:25 <planetmaker> you could, of course, also use it for the nightly farm, if you want. 21:11:33 <Frankr> planetmaker do u know a coder called Yorick 21:11:47 <planetmaker> But the automatic install with release is something I was unsure about whether to do or not 21:11:55 <planetmaker> Frankr: yes, sort of. Why? 21:11:57 <Ammler> :-) 21:12:12 <Frankr> well he made this patch thing with these shared airports on 21:12:22 <Frankr> u might want to consult him 21:12:30 <Ammler> oh, you don't speak about IS2? 21:12:34 <planetmaker> uhm... actually not on that issue ;) 21:13:32 <planetmaker> well... I'm quite a bit ambigeous about him :) 21:13:45 <Frankr> yorick? 21:13:48 <planetmaker> yes 21:13:56 <Frankr> he's a good coder 21:14:04 <planetmaker> well. He's a coder 21:14:11 <planetmaker> and he learns. 21:14:33 <planetmaker> So maybe he'll become one, yes 21:14:38 <Frankr> lol 21:14:54 <planetmaker> But the stuff he does is usually quite hackish 21:15:13 <planetmaker> doesn't mean, though, that it doesn't work 21:15:49 <planetmaker> and if he continues the path he's chosen, he'll surely improve. 21:16:00 <Frankr> lol, mega has informed me that the shared airports is actually a kind of bug 21:16:32 <planetmaker> well, yes. You can hack them into the game. But you cannot normally create them. So they're a bug 21:16:37 <Ammler> Frankr: you should try IS2 21:16:47 <Frankr> i am in IS2 21:16:58 <Frankr> Clanmega game 21:17:24 <planetmaker> And I know that yorick's approach to shared airports is one approach which failed at least in one or two cases. Dunno which anymore, though 21:17:55 <planetmaker> Might be that they use a hacked map. That's their fault then. Do they have neutral airports there? 21:18:05 <Frankr> yh 21:18:07 <planetmaker> like oil rigs? 21:18:11 <Frankr> yh 21:18:18 <Frankr> exactly 21:18:29 <planetmaker> well. If that crashes... it's actually not a bug. It's a bug of Yorick. Not of IS2. 21:18:31 <Ammler> IS2 doesn't support that 21:18:34 <planetmaker> Or do Oil rigs crash 21:18:36 <planetmaker> ? 21:18:48 <Frankr> i don't know 21:19:05 <Frankr> oil rigs don't have the hanger 21:19:08 <planetmaker> If oil righs have it crash, too. Then it's a bug of IS2. Otherwise it's a bug of the hack. 21:19:09 <Ammler> might be worth a feature request 21:19:15 <planetmaker> Frankr: yeah :) 21:19:16 <Frankr> the hanger is wat crashs the airport is fine 21:19:32 <planetmaker> Ammler: what might be worth a feature request? 21:20:09 <Ammler> ownership of airports 21:20:10 <planetmaker> neutral airports (or other stations)? I don't think so. It's out of scope IMO 21:20:21 <Ammler> or for stations gernerally 21:20:33 <planetmaker> It would IMO, though, be an interesting thing to add in general. 21:20:41 <Ammler> or for the whole infrastructure 21:20:59 <planetmaker> But there're big reservations for that afair among some devs. But maybe my impression there is wrong 21:21:46 <Ammler> there is a big reservations for the whole IS2, isn't? 21:21:57 <planetmaker> that's another thing ;) 21:22:25 <Ammler> at least I know only one opinion from a dev, which is negative 21:22:31 <Frankr> i think IS2 should b in the main OTTD once it is sorted 21:22:45 <Ammler> well, he isn't a dev anymore. 21:22:48 <planetmaker> Frankr: well. We all three here agree, I think. 21:22:55 <planetmaker> Ammler: TB? 21:22:59 <Frankr> seems like it 21:22:59 <Ammler> yes :-) 21:23:43 <planetmaker> And some others, too. I really, really hope that they'll earnestly consider it. H1rundo did a really great and sound job on it. 21:24:00 <Ammler> IS2 would be very cool for ususal openttdcoop games. 21:24:07 <Ammler> too 21:24:09 <planetmaker> yes, of course 21:24:19 <planetmaker> Especially the regions style. 21:24:22 <planetmaker> Very cool 21:24:39 <Ammler> regions? 21:24:42 <planetmaker> And then with Yexo's regions branch :) 21:24:57 <planetmaker> Ammler: like s-bahn for different parts. Each done by different people 21:24:57 * Hirundo adds IS, regions and cargodest to roadmap for 0.8.0 ;) 21:24:57 <Frankr> i also like paxdext 21:25:07 <planetmaker> Hello Hirundo :) 21:25:15 <Ammler> Hirundo hacks the wiki :P 21:25:21 <planetmaker> Frankr: better cargodest than paxdest ;) 21:25:30 <planetmaker> as cargo >= pax ;) 21:25:49 <Frankr> yh u know wat i mean :) 21:26:01 <planetmaker> hehe. Yes. Just nit picking ;) 21:26:06 <Frankr> lol 21:26:15 <planetmaker> Ammler: any other comments to my diff? 21:26:19 <planetmaker> Or shall I commit it? 21:26:26 <Ammler> I still think, "someone" should make something to make the patches "save" compatible 21:26:48 <Ammler> then nobody has to care anymore, if it goes to trunk, finally. 21:27:02 <planetmaker> Ammler: how do you envision to make an IS game compatible with trunk? 21:27:14 <planetmaker> When trains go everywhere where they may not go in trunk? 21:27:30 <Ammler> no with trunk 21:27:39 <Ammler> but with future is patches 21:28:00 <planetmaker> hm... that way. Yeah... well... 21:28:22 <Ammler> then we could use it for coop server 21:28:41 <Ammler> but this way we would need to keep all builds with the saves. 21:28:53 <planetmaker> ok... no comments any more. Then I'll commit ;) 21:29:31 <Ammler> well, I didn't try the patch 21:29:42 <Frankr> :) 21:29:42 <Hirundo> Ammler: problem is that the savegame format is also used for the networking stuff 21:29:46 <Ammler> you might need to wait for the other devs there 21:30:08 <Ammler> Hirundo: I see. :-/ 21:30:10 <planetmaker> FooBar_: ^ 21:30:18 <FooBar_> planetmaker: ? 21:30:28 <planetmaker> comments on firs #244 issue? See the attached diff 21:30:56 <planetmaker> I modified there the meaning of make bundle, install and added release 21:31:06 <planetmaker> the thing with the constant file name and stuff 21:31:26 <Ammler> does release also install now? 21:31:29 <FooBar_> lemme check... 21:31:37 <planetmaker> Ammler: yes 21:31:49 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/244 21:32:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: well, that is the only thing, which I wouldn't do. 21:33:17 <Ammler> but not really important 21:33:22 <planetmaker> ok. I'm fine with anything. But then it needs a target on its own. 21:33:29 <planetmaker> proposals? 21:33:41 <Ammler> why? 21:33:58 <planetmaker> I want the newgrf which is uploaded to bananas also in my data dir via install. 21:33:59 <Ammler> hmm 21:34:11 <Ammler> what I miss is the make bananas :-) 21:34:27 <Hirundo> go to a tropical island :D 21:34:33 <planetmaker> well. That's a separate thing IMO :) 21:34:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: doesn't make install do that? 21:35:00 <planetmaker> Hirundo: yes please. Can you send me the flight tickets and book a nice resort? 21:35:17 <planetmaker> Ammler: it installs only the unversioned thing 21:35:22 <planetmaker> I could install any tar, though 21:35:32 <planetmaker> or not any, but all tars found 21:35:45 <Ammler> well, that "thing" has the same md5sum 21:35:47 <Ammler> so it is all ok, imo. 21:35:58 <planetmaker> hm... has it? 21:35:59 <Ammler> I wouldn't want it versioned in my data dir 21:36:09 <Ammler> as it would conflict my debug on the dev version 21:36:25 <planetmaker> well, yes, I would. I want a dev version and for pulic games the release version 21:36:31 * FooBar_ has patch crashing on him 21:36:38 <planetmaker> :O 21:36:46 <planetmaker> FooBar_: did you hg pull -u before? 21:36:54 <planetmaker> and then you need patch -p1 < patch.diff 21:36:56 <FooBar_> yes I did 21:37:13 <FooBar_> patch doesn't even attempt to merge the diff for some reason 21:37:22 <FooBar_> It just sits there blinking it's cursor :S 21:37:31 <planetmaker> cancel that 21:37:35 <planetmaker> type 21:37:46 <planetmaker> patch -p1 < patchfile 21:37:55 <planetmaker> in the command prompt in the firs main directory 21:38:01 <planetmaker> where you also did hg pull -u 21:38:10 <FooBar_> ah, forgot the < :P 21:38:14 <planetmaker> :P 21:39:04 <FooBar_> here we go... now to see what it does :) 21:39:29 <Ammler> Hirundo: you might have missed the pre discussion 21:39:51 <Ammler> is it possible to define all infrastructure owning to nobody? 21:40:06 <Ammler> might be cool for scenario 21:40:36 <planetmaker> that really is trouble and needs an own patch. Possibly on top 21:40:53 <Ammler> well, it needs IS 21:41:06 <planetmaker> No 21:41:18 <planetmaker> Oil rigs can be used by anyone. 21:41:21 <Frankr> yh but thn will ppl want to build things 21:41:36 <planetmaker> So the principles work in trunk. But it's not officially supported elsewhere. 21:41:38 <Ammler> hmm, 21:41:50 <FooBar_> planetmaker: make install fails on me: "tar: firs-nightly: Cannot stat: No such file or directory" 21:42:03 <planetmaker> hm... 21:42:05 <Frankr> where would the money from the infra structure go as well? 21:42:05 <Ammler> don't think so 21:42:14 <planetmaker> FooBar_: try make remake && make install 21:42:17 <Ammler> (not that easy) 21:42:48 <Ammler> Frankr: details :P 21:42:51 <FooBar_> same :( 21:43:04 <Frankr> lol 21:43:07 <planetmaker> that's bad :S 21:43:42 <Ammler> it doesn't matter, important is it goes out from you. 21:44:05 <planetmaker> FooBar_: what does you get when you call make test? 21:44:32 <planetmaker> I'm especially interested in the line which says Dirs (nightly/release/base): 21:45:04 <Ammler> don't have a first checkout here :-/ 21:45:11 <Ammler> so I let you do it 21:45:16 <FooBar_> Dirs (nightly/release/base): firs-nightly / firs-nightly-r81M / firs-Host type unknown (win?) 21:45:20 <Ammler> -t 21:45:43 <planetmaker> woot? 21:46:08 <FooBar_> I'm on NT6, so I suppose ifeq ($(OSTYPE),MINGW32_NT-5.1) failes 21:46:32 <planetmaker> well. That's fine. 21:46:44 <Ammler> why does it need os detection? 21:46:54 <planetmaker> Isn't it two lines, FooBar_ ? 21:47:06 <planetmaker> well... actually then it's what I expect. 21:47:30 <planetmaker> FooBar_: what does, btw uname -s give you when typed in the command prompt? 21:47:41 <FooBar_> Oh... I made it into one believing that it was wrapped... 21:48:02 <FooBar_> On two lines it's this: 21:48:06 <FooBar_> Dirs (nightly/release/base): firs-nightly / firs-nightly-r81M / firs- 21:48:08 <FooBar_> Host type unknown (win?) 21:48:09 <planetmaker> FooBar_: no, it's not :) it's two lines :) 21:48:12 <planetmaker> that's fine then. 21:49:01 <FooBar_> I don't see either of those dirs getting created if I run the makefile 21:49:35 <planetmaker> obviously... :S 21:50:05 <planetmaker> hm... I get the same error actually. At least now. 21:52:30 <planetmaker> FooBar_: besides the issue: what does "uname -s" in the console give you? 21:52:48 <FooBar_> MINGW32_NT-6.0 21:54:24 <FooBar_> Is it me or is there no $(TAR_FILENAME) target? 21:56:26 <FooBar_> Also you should use %USERPROFILE% instead of C:\Documents and Settings$(USERNAME) 21:56:44 <FooBar_> C:\Documents and Settings$(USERNAME) failes miserably on Vista as that has no Documents and Settings 21:57:26 <planetmaker> FooBar_: there is a %.$(TAR_SUFFIX) target 21:57:50 <FooBar_> is that the same? No wonder I couldn't find it ;) 21:57:59 <planetmaker> the error you get is from that. It basically accomodates both tars, the release and the nightly 21:58:11 <planetmaker> Kinda improving efficiency ;) 21:58:59 <planetmaker> FooBar_: concerning the SERPROFILE% - I tried to get it into the makefile. But failed. Feel please free to include it successfully :) 21:59:13 <planetmaker> uhm... funny formatting :S 22:01:17 <FooBar_> alright. I'll try as soon as it's working, as there's not much to try at the moment ;) 22:03:21 <planetmaker> FooBar_: you can always try make test 22:03:26 <planetmaker> that's sufficient to test it. 22:03:41 <FooBar_> I did, that just displays %USERPROFILE% 22:04:03 <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated. 22:04:03 <planetmaker> And mind: you have a patched makefile. Not a clean checkout. You could revert it :) 22:04:17 <FooBar_> true... 22:04:36 <planetmaker> but make test is fine for testing. That's actually what I introduced it for... 22:04:38 <FooBar_> although I'm still looking into why this isn't working... 22:04:57 <FooBar_> Not that I know much about makefiles, but you never know... :) 22:05:00 <planetmaker> I don't understand it either. It has the target firs-nightly. It just doesn't call it. 22:15:33 <planetmaker> FooBar_: can you change a small thing and try? 22:15:40 <FooBar_> sure 22:15:52 <planetmaker> in the definition of %.$(TAR_SUFFIX) 22:16:05 <planetmaker> replace that line with 22:16:07 <planetmaker> %.$(TAR_SUFFIX): % $(BUNDLE_FILES) 22:17:37 <FooBar_> that seems to do the trick 22:19:48 <planetmaker> and make clean :) 22:24:46 <FooBar_> how can I test make release with a tag? 22:25:08 <FooBar_> I did hg tag "0.1.0" and then make release... 22:25:30 <FooBar_> but that created a bundle named firs-nightly-r82M... 22:26:35 <planetmaker> hm... anything? 22:28:39 * planetmaker yawns and slowly heads to his bed :-) 22:28:55 <FooBar_> goodnight! 22:29:02 <FooBar_> I was thinking about doing the same... 22:29:18 <FooBar_> Makefile seems in order now I think 22:29:36 <FooBar_> It seems to do what it should do, although I couldn't test the tag stuff yet. 22:30:34 <planetmaker> ok, just let me know whether it works... I've a few minor things changed, mostly cleanup and then I'll commit this stuff. 22:30:46 <planetmaker> I'm off to bed now :) 22:34:47 *** FooBar_ has quit IRC 23:06:28 <Frankr> cya planetmaker 23:33:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #273: 737-400 pcx @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/273 (by Frank) 23:58:12 *** Frankr has quit IRC