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00:01:44 *** Frankr has quit IRC 01:33:23 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 60M) 01:33:23 <Brot6> Yow! I'm having a quadrophonic sensation of two winos alone in a steel mill! 01:41:23 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 01:42:09 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 05:25:07 <planetmaker> Ammler: I wished German would be switched. But it isn't. Too many translators I was told :S 06:14:19 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:18:03 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #136: add test case / test save @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/136#change-567 (by planetmaker) 06:58:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 06:59:46 <Ammler> planetmaker: you and eddi are the only active ones 06:59:52 <Ammler> so it should be up2you2 07:00:16 <planetmaker> Eddi hasn't done anything unless he's called Ralph 07:00:29 <Ammler> hmm 07:00:42 <planetmaker> He's a good contributor in the translation thread, though. 07:00:51 <planetmaker> dih did something several months ago, too. 07:00:56 <planetmaker> Until I started :P 07:01:05 <Ammler> I still miss the credits for translators, is that somewhere? 07:01:19 <planetmaker> Dunno. Might actually be not. 07:01:26 <planetmaker> Good point :) 07:01:51 <planetmaker> Well.... actually it's in the same place as patches: the changelog 07:02:21 <Ammler> how do you know, who to blame? 07:02:50 <Ammler> ah 07:03:10 <Ammler> the commit log of the language file, indeed 07:03:20 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/4a66941b865a 07:03:25 <planetmaker> yeah 07:04:44 <Ammler> hmm 07:04:55 <Ammler> not that easy accessable 07:06:00 <Ammler> you should check, who made changes the last year, those would need to agree for a switch. 07:08:09 <planetmaker> that's what they did. They took 15 months activity period. 07:08:37 <planetmaker> And that will show at least Ralph, dih and me. Maybe one or two more 07:14:25 <Ammler> wow 07:15:03 <planetmaker> at least two more :) 07:19:07 <planetmaker> moewe, Masch, sulai, dih, jonathan, athaba, chu, hellow, ralph, eddi (you're right!) 07:19:11 <planetmaker> I'm amazed myself 07:19:34 <planetmaker> at least 10 translators since ~March 2008 07:22:34 <Ammler> well, reason for a brak :-) 07:23:15 <Ammler> wait until it is on WT3, then you see, who else will translate on the old interface. 07:25:01 <Ammler> do you get email annouceses, if the translation desyncs 07:25:03 <Ammler> ? 07:32:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code review: #1(Closed) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/code_review/show/firs?review_id=4 (by Ammler) 07:38:20 <planetmaker> It's an either or decision: a language is translated using wt2 or wt3. Not both. 07:38:53 <Ammler> hg log -v german.txt | grep -E "^german|^date" 07:39:15 <planetmaker> what does that give you? 07:39:57 <Ammler> editor list from the changelog 07:40:20 <planetmaker> nice 07:41:14 <Ammler> you forgot hellow in your list 07:41:24 <Ammler> oh no 07:41:47 <planetmaker> :) 07:45:25 <planetmaker> ah... just got an e-mail. Only wt3 will work now. 07:45:38 <planetmaker> I need to re-sign-in for write access... 07:46:02 <Ammler> bananas account 07:46:03 <planetmaker> And I'll need to remove my openttd account from the dev zone... 07:46:15 <planetmaker> yes. But I need to re-apply for write access. 07:46:56 <Ammler> do you have grfs on your bananas account? 07:47:11 <planetmaker> well. I have a height map :) 07:47:12 <Ammler> else you should remove it from the "Manager" list 07:47:32 <Ammler> or use another for Translations 07:48:36 <planetmaker> I just remove that, I guess. The mars height map is done basically. 07:48:49 <planetmaker> and I only uploaded it in order to test the interface ;) 07:52:45 <planetmaker> and wth: why is the default Italian? 07:53:27 <planetmaker> eh? No... change password transformed me to spanish version of the site... 07:55:57 <planetmaker> I just loged out. Loged in anew. Chose WebTranslator. Edit. And was - again - at the Italian translation... I wonder why? 08:03:13 <Ammler> yeah 08:03:16 <Ammler> :-) 08:03:40 <Ammler> btw. someone added german translation for IS2 08:09:08 <planetmaker> nice. 08:11:12 <Ammler> you should commit it :-) 08:11:33 <planetmaker> uhm... yes, why not :) 08:11:45 <planetmaker> but where is it? :) 08:16:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:20:17 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Feature #278: german translation @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/278 (by Ammler) 08:28:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:04:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:30:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:06:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:08:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:28:00 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:32:11 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:38:45 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:41:48 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:49:03 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:00:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:15:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:16:17 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:21:52 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:22:53 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:29:34 <planetmaker> Ammler, you added somewhen somehwere the gimp palette for sprite drawing. Can you point me to it? 11:30:10 <Ammler> on the guide 11:30:28 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/documents 11:31:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #102: Sprites 2981-3016 (36) - monolev engines @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/102#change-568 (by Ammler) 11:31:37 <planetmaker> thanks. I looked nearly everywhere... I looked in "files" though, not documents. 11:32:55 <Ammler> files is havily "missuesd" by you :P 11:33:17 <Ammler> (and DJN) 11:33:24 <planetmaker> :P 11:33:36 <planetmaker> I find documents and files confusing :) 11:33:41 <planetmaker> But I guess you're right 11:33:51 <planetmaker> so... how do I import that palette to Gimp? 11:34:34 <Ammler> :-) 11:36:17 <planetmaker> I can change the palette but not import any. But probably I'm just missing the obvious 11:36:39 <planetmaker> I just want to extract from egrvts some vehicles... but the palette is messed up 11:40:51 <Ammler> right mouse click on the palette list 11:43:24 <Ammler> Farben -> Abbilden -> Farbtabelle setzen -> klick auf die Palette -> rechte maustaste 11:44:09 <Ammler> he, kan kein screen machen :-) 11:44:55 <planetmaker> ok. Gerade auch irgendwie gefunden. 11:45:14 <planetmaker> as usual. You only find something after you asked. At least typical for me ;) 11:45:41 <planetmaker> I plan to import some egrvts sprites to OpenGFX. Just got Zephyris permission. 11:45:47 <Ammler> the palette is on the svn repo of openttd.org too, btw. 11:46:21 <Ammler> but mine has the index number as lable, the one from the repo has labels "unknown" 11:46:48 <Ammler> why/where are they needed? 11:47:29 <planetmaker> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/newgrf.php?t=601:689 11:47:31 <Ammler> I guess, toyland :-) 11:47:34 <planetmaker> yes 11:47:41 <planetmaker> but they can double there. At least partially 11:48:52 <Ammler> I really don't see need for reusing the sprites on toyland, imo, that is kinda useless. 11:49:33 <Ammler> or do you change them a bit? 11:51:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:51:35 <planetmaker> hm... do I need to? ;) 11:52:11 <Ammler> well, for alpha release, it is fien 11:52:15 <Ammler> fine* 11:52:19 <planetmaker> I think they can be re-used. And replaced, if something else is found. I'll just look for replacements, completely un-biased from what is elsewhere :) 11:52:31 <planetmaker> Well... should be for beta. 11:52:31 <Ammler> but the beta release should use "real" toyland replacment 11:52:55 <planetmaker> Look at the table and tell me what is particular toylandish about those. 11:53:09 <planetmaker> Some yes, but others could just use some sprites from a random vehicle set. 11:53:32 <Ammler> they indeed aren't :-) 11:53:50 <planetmaker> So... I think it'll be fine. 11:53:55 <Ammler> well, the cargo 11:54:01 <planetmaker> otherwise I wouldn't have gotten the idea :) 11:54:28 <planetmaker> And yes... cargo. That's different. I'll just use images where it is ok. Not "it has to fit, so use a bigger hammer, if it doesn't" :P 11:56:38 <Ammler> well, cargo could use the grain, ore and coal and some recolor 11:56:51 <Ammler> shouldn't be that hard 12:01:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 12:01:39 <planetmaker> yeah... for some. 12:01:53 <planetmaker> For now I'll just look through for fitting images. 12:02:02 <planetmaker> One step after another :P 12:02:05 <planetmaker> I'm no artist :P 12:02:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:02:23 <planetmaker> but of course... you want to draw and re-colour: go ahead :) 12:21:36 <Ammler> bugger, I need a German or Austria bank account for amazon :-( 12:21:52 <Ammler> are you interested on a 13€ gift? :-) 12:25:55 <planetmaker> I don't mind :) 12:50:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 12:58:54 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #124: Sprites 601:760 (160) - Road trucks @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/124#change-569 (by planetmaker) 13:33:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 75: Fix: version information in the description was broken @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/75 (by planetmaker) 14:04:05 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 14:13:38 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:14:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:15:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:22:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:35:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:38:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:49:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:50:05 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:51:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:25:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:13:42 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:15:19 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:18:02 <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r74 to r75, starting nightly compile 16:18:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 55 errors: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opengfx/nightlies/log/ 16:22:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:15:08 <planetmaker> Quote from Zephyris: "Ah, I see, I forgot about toyland! Please do use and modify the GRVTS graphics!" 17:17:05 <Ammler> :-) 17:29:15 <planetmaker> ha. Bus seems to drive around nicely... :) 17:30:04 <planetmaker> But I cannot commit it yet as I cannot commit the whole egrvts sprites :P 17:31:10 <planetmaker> hm... How do you put the real sprites into a file...? 17:31:12 * planetmaker wonders 17:31:29 <planetmaker> Anything beyond just put them onto a white background and be done? 17:36:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:37:30 <Ammler> planetmaker: no problem to commit the whole file 17:37:43 <Ammler> grfcodec will only encode the used sprites 17:38:46 <Ammler> planetmaker: easiest would be, you use the original sprite file 17:39:13 <Ammler> and place the uses sprties exaclty like it, so you can use the same offsets 17:40:35 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/entry/sprites/pcx/monolev.pcx 17:42:31 <Ammler> well, you will find your way ;-) 17:47:40 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:56:37 <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, that'd be easiest. And actually preferred by me. 19:57:06 <planetmaker> But! it would place the whole egrvts drawings into gpl. Which would IMO be stretching the permission. 19:57:48 <Ammler> but you could use the whole pcx 19:57:58 <Ammler> and cut the unused vehicels 19:58:09 <Ammler> so you have still the same offsets 19:58:33 <Ammler> did you get the source from zeph? 20:04:12 <planetmaker> I didn't ask. We only need the sprites anyway. 20:04:20 <planetmaker> You mean wrt offsets? 20:06:41 <Ammler> wrt? 20:08:45 *** satyap has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:09:06 *** Farden has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:12:30 <satyap> greetings. Ammler said i should come here 20:12:50 <Ammler> nice to have you here 20:12:54 <Ammler> :-) 20:13:48 <Ammler> is your homepage made with ror? 20:14:17 <satyap> no it's not 20:14:27 <satyap> it's too static... argh... don't give me ideas... 20:14:42 <Ammler> :P 20:14:55 <Ammler> we just started the project with the DevZone 20:15:06 <Ammler> but already have some decent projects here 20:16:06 * satyap looks 20:16:13 <Ammler> I would like to be able to manage mercurial repos with redmine 20:16:20 <Ammler> and a better support with rbot 20:20:54 <planetmaker> Ammler: wrt = with respect to :P - another of my abbreviations ;) 20:21:41 <satyap> i could probably find out how to do that 20:21:51 <satyap> i don't know off the to pof my head 20:22:15 <Ammler> well, there is no real hurry on something 20:22:45 <Ammler> I am just happy, someone else also know a bit about ruby, as I don't ;-) 20:25:00 <satyap> http://www.redmine.org/wiki/1/RedmineRepositories have you seen this? 20:25:02 <Webster> Title: Redmine - RedmineRepositories - Redmine (at www.redmine.org) 20:27:13 <Ammler> satyap: of course, it can read mercurial repos 20:27:27 <Ammler> but not much more 20:27:46 <Ammler> I would like to be able to add read/write access on project level 20:28:03 <Ammler> I would like to be able to strip revisions 20:28:22 <Ammler> I would like to be able to make forks and patch queues 20:28:51 <Ammler> I would like to be able to branch and see tags 20:29:35 <satyap> ah 20:29:58 <Ammler> I would like to manage the compile farm from redmine 20:30:53 <Ammler> I would like to use the rbot (Brot) interactive 20:31:20 <Ammler> there might be more :-) 20:33:21 <satyap> i'll have to do a lot of research, not being familiar with redmine nor mercurial 20:34:37 <satyap> i'll install redmine at home at some point 20:35:20 <Ammler> yeah,I'll do the same :-) 20:35:36 <Ammler> I know mercurial and redmein a bit, but don't ruby 20:36:00 <Ammler> well, we have alos a svn server 20:36:18 <Ammler> but that won't be used for newer projects, mainly. 20:58:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Feature #278: german translation @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/278#change-571 (by Hirundo) 21:06:28 *** satyap has quit IRC 21:18:16 *** Farden has quit IRC 21:18:46 *** lahlum has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:18:47 *** lahlum has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:22:04 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:27:11 *** yvet has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:27:11 *** yvet has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:28:34 *** rokas has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:28:35 <rokas> Need Sex? 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