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00:04:06  <Frankr> cya guys
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01:33:34  <Brot6> Toes, knees, NIPPLES. Toes, knees, nipples, KNUCKLES ... Nipples, dimples, knuckles, NICKLES, wrinkles, pimples!!
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15:48:39  <Frankr> Hello
15:49:13  <Rubidium> Hi
15:59:23  <Ammler> good evening :-)
15:59:56  <Rubidium> it's afternoon! :)
16:04:12  <Frankr> Hi all
16:04:21  <Frankr> Now starts my fun
16:06:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 423: Started mass white replacement A318's all png and pcx done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/423 (by Frank)
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16:09:34  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 424: All A319's ong and pcx done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/424 (by Frank)
16:18:01  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
16:18:01  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r212)
16:18:02  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r38)
16:18:02  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
16:18:02  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r199)
16:18:03  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r40)
16:18:03  <Brot6> worldairlineset: update from r419 to r425, starting nightly compile
16:18:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 425: All A320-200's png and pcx files done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/425 (by Frank)
16:18:40  <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile done (611 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlineset/nightlies/
16:24:54  <Ammler> fewer ;-)
16:25:12  <Frankr> Yh well we are doin it atm, :)
16:25:31  <Frankr> we got 150 png and 120 pcx files to do, :)
16:26:04  <Ammler> what's the difference from png to pcx?
16:27:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 426: All A321's png and pcx files done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/426 (by Frank)
16:28:50  <Frankr> We alter the palette and some planes which are finished haven't been converted yet that's y there are more
16:29:34  <Frankr> Graphic ppl paint and save as png thn we convert to pcx, so we are doin every single file we have
16:36:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 427: All A380-800's png and pcx files done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/427 (by Frank)
16:39:42  <Ammler> the converting part brings up those glitches with action  colors
16:41:09  <Ammler> it would be better imo, if the drawers supply you with the right indexed pcx, just my opinion ;-)
16:43:12  <Frankr> Ammler: The problem is some of the artust use paint which can't make pcx files
16:43:21  <Frankr> artists*
16:44:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 428: A380-800f done and converted to pcx @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/428 (by Frank)
16:44:13  <Rubidium> huh?
16:44:17  <Frankr> It would make our life easy but we have got into the routine and converting the files take seconds
16:45:38  <Ammler> well, it isn't about just converting, more about the action colors
16:46:41  <Frankr> yh we have the specific palette and it works fine now
16:48:59  <Rubidium> mspaint has png support now? Damn... I have not used that in a long time
16:49:07  <Rubidium> and they dropped PCX support?
16:49:53  <Rubidium> so for WAS the *older* paints are better :)
16:49:55  <Frankr> well i don't use it, but they say not
16:50:28  <Frankr> well there isn't a difference, or shouldn't be
16:51:23  <Rubidium> "... is no longer supported by newer versions of Paint, along with PCX and RLE."
16:52:40  <Ammler> what does mspaint, what gimp can't?
16:53:07  <Ammler> that is like coding with the windows editor.
16:54:01  <Rubidium> Ammler: come OOTB with Windows?
16:54:18  <Rubidium> Frankr: http://rbijker.net/openttd/fix_nfo_warning.diff
16:54:50  <Frankr> Yh well i don't know but the paint with paint not gimp
17:11:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 429: Corrected all Tupolev Pure White Pngs, + created pcxs @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/429 (by Beardie27)
17:11:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 430: Merged r429 and r428 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/430 (by Beardie27)
17:21:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 431: Added TAROM pcx @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/431 (by Beardie27)
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18:18:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 432: All ATR 42-300's done at last @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/432 (by Frank)
18:18:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 433: Merged files together @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/433 (by Frank)
18:30:01  <Rubidium> Frankr: updating from 431 to 433 adds 2 extra white warnings; was the intention of the commit to remove them?
18:30:26  <Frankr> Does it
18:31:02  <Frankr> Rubidium: How do you know tha
18:31:12  <Frankr> and it should have reduced dramatically
18:31:28  <Frankr> I have hand done the ATR's
18:32:46  <Frankr> I know why, i think
18:33:18  <Frankr> Cos of the Merge and the Airbus' unfortunately are wrong i'm checking them now
18:33:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #483: Wrong number of nvar in action 2 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/483 (by Rubidium)
18:33:43  <Rubidium> Frankr: because I unsilenced the pure white warnings
18:33:49  <Rubidium> then did:
18:34:00  <Rubidium> make clean >/dev/null && make 2>&1 |grep white|wc -l
18:34:17  <Frankr> wat number came up?
18:34:26  <Rubidium> which said 563 for r431 and 565 for r433
18:35:47  <Rubidium> r425 said 610, which is in line with the compile farm as the 611th is bug#483
18:37:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 434: ATR 42-300F pcx and pcx files done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/434 (by Frank)
18:37:23  <Frankr> I know why
18:37:38  <Frankr> FooBar's help doesn't work
18:38:00  <Ammler> might be the issue, you use dos palette
18:38:07  <Frankr> Because if there is pure white at the edge thn it will remain pure white
18:38:12  <Rubidium> might be that pixel 0,0 isn't pure white
18:38:35  <Frankr> Which is why i did all ATR's by hand
18:38:49  <Frankr> So i'll use Jasc
18:38:57  <Frankr> I'll redo the Airbus's
18:39:03  <Frankr> It should reduce thn
18:40:14  <Ammler> Frankr: it needs to be pure white
18:40:27  <Ammler> else it doesn't make sense :-)
18:40:34  <Frankr> Yh i know Ammler
18:40:43  <Frankr> Wat i said makes no sense
18:41:16  <Frankr> Ammler: If the plane touchs the pure white and the plane starts off being pure white it won't change
18:41:32  <Frankr> Tha make sense?
18:41:45  <Ammler> no
18:41:59  <Frankr> Say the plane wing is pure white
18:42:16  <Frankr> And it touchs the rest of the pure white mass
18:42:30  <Ammler> ah, I get it
18:42:46  <Ammler> yes, that wouldn't work
18:42:50  <Frankr> Then FooBar_'s action will turn it from pure white to not pure white and then back to pure white, :)
18:42:56  <Frankr> Exactly
18:43:20  <Frankr> So i'll just re-look over the Airbus's i did
18:43:44  <Rubidium> Cannot read truecolour PCX files!
18:43:49  <Rubidium> mayday!
18:43:55  <Rubidium> caused by r434
18:44:33  <Ammler> truecolor = 32bpp ?
18:44:49  <Ammler> but pcx?
18:45:01  <Frankr> does it say which one, cos i might not have indexed it
18:45:22  <Rubidium> Ammler: usually 24 bpp
18:46:00  <FooBar_> hey, don't blame my action if your sprite is faulty :P
18:46:16  <Rubidium> Frankr: not really, although somewhere around sprites/pcx/atr/42-300F/AirContractors.pcx (that one or the 'next' one)
18:46:18  <FooBar_> but yes, that's what happens :)
18:46:30  <Ammler> someone should tell the painters, there is no pure white on the world ;-)
18:46:34  <Rubidium> http://paste.openttd.org/203785 <- shortlist of pcx to white warnings
18:47:03  <Frankr> I have redone each one
18:47:25  <Frankr> It was air contractor
18:47:50  <Frankr> should work now
18:48:46  <Rubidium> 567 pure white warnings
18:49:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 435: ATR 42-300F @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/435 (by Frank)
18:51:40  <Frankr> well at least it went down by 50, :)
18:52:16  <Rubidium> from r425, from r433 it went up by 2
18:53:36  <Frankr> i must b missing something on the ATR 42-300
18:53:52  <Frankr> I'll have a look once i have done the Airbus'
18:54:34  <Frankr> To be honest nearly the whole Atr 42-300 was pure white
19:00:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 436: Re-looked over the Airbus A318 and made changes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/436 (by Frank)
19:00:26  <Frankr> Rubidium how does tha look?
19:00:53  <Rubidium> 580
19:01:08  <Ammler> Frankr: try to run it self
19:03:38  <Rubidium> you added a bunch of pure white sprites to TAROM.pcx
19:03:52  <Frankr> Ammler: I don't know how to get it so tha it shows the pure white count
19:03:59  <Rubidium> greyscale was left as it was
19:04:10  <Ammler> Rubidium: posted it before
19:04:20  <Ammler> [20:34] <Rubidium> make clean >/dev/null && make 2>&1 |grep white|wc -l
19:04:41  <Rubidium> and you also added white pixels to airfrance
19:05:01  <Frankr> Oh ffs
19:05:24  <Frankr> It is because Jasc Was set to a 20 tolerance
19:05:30  <Frankr> so the hard work was for nothing
19:05:44  <Frankr> This will b done 2nite however long it takes
19:06:09  <Rubidium> that's going to be quite a few reverts :(
19:06:32  <Rubidium> or you'll lose even more image 'depth'
19:07:07  <Frankr> I know, i'll look through thm
19:08:37  <Frankr> Ammler: Btw tha makes no sense to me
19:09:03  <Ammler> ?
19:09:27  <Rubidium> Frankr: how do you compile the set?
19:09:35  <Frankr> type make
19:09:56  <Frankr> Wat i type all of tha
19:09:57  <Rubidium> now type the following instead of 'just' make:
19:10:03  <Rubidium> make clean >/dev/null && make 2>&1 |grep white|wc -l
19:10:11  <Rubidium> (or just copy-paste it)
19:10:27  <Ammler> hmm, why do you need 2>&1?
19:10:46  <Rubidium> unless you're one of the unlucky ones with a terminal that doesn't do pasting
19:10:57  <Frankr> mine doesn't paste
19:11:07  <Rubidium> Ammler: you know the 'newer' grfcodecs output the white warnings on stderr?
19:11:27  <Frankr> however pressing insert does
19:11:44  <Rubidium> Ammler: and you're aware that wc doesn't count stuff from stderr?
19:12:16  <Ammler> Rubidium: yes, but I thought, if you don't redirect stderr, it will also outputed to stdout.
19:12:34  <Ammler> hmm
19:12:37  <Frankr> Btw guys mine says 0
19:12:59  <Rubidium> Frankr: remove the -q (ignore warnings) from your GRFCODEC_FLAGS
19:13:26  <Ammler> hmm, is that still in your Makefile.config?
19:13:33  <FooBar_> Frankr: yes, your's does paste as well I bet. My Windows Command even does paste...
19:13:36  <Rubidium> Ammler: the -q still is
19:13:37  <Frankr> I presume so
19:14:00  <Frankr> Mine doesn't paste cntrl v
19:14:06  <Frankr> insert work tho
19:14:15  <FooBar_> Just rightclick in the window
19:14:20  <Ammler> I reported that once as bug and suggested that people should do that to their local conf, if needed.
19:14:20  <FooBar_> dunno about insert :P
19:14:24  <Frankr> I use Mingw
19:14:32  <Rubidium> FooBar_: mingw doesn't do right click!
19:14:32  <Frankr> not cmd
19:14:53  <FooBar_> Oh, I was talking about cmd; nevermind then :)
19:15:08  <Frankr> :)
19:15:42  <Frankr> How do i remove tha -q (remove warnings)?
19:16:08  <FooBar_> I use cmd because it sits in the context menu of a folder and then I don't need to cd to the correct folder any more ;)
19:16:21  <FooBar_> Anyways, I'm off watching some more two and a half men...
19:16:27  <Frankr> Cya
19:17:01  <Rubidium> Frankr: echo GRFCODEC_FLAGS = -c -e -p2 > Makefile.local
19:17:31  <Rubidium> warning: does override your current Makefile.local, though I assume you don't have one
19:17:41  <Frankr> ty
19:17:44  <Rubidium> again, copy-insert it into your terminal
19:19:28  <Frankr> 580 ty
19:22:39  <Frankr> Do you think i should just start again?
19:23:10  <Rubidium> I'd first revert everything you've done with the wrong procedure
19:24:02  <Frankr> Tha's wat i mean, i can just re-downloaded them from WAS forum
19:25:53  <Ammler> Frankr: remove the -q from Makefile
19:26:02  <Frankr> have done
19:26:06  <Frankr> not pushed it tho
19:26:14  <Ammler> so other devs working on your repo don't have the same problem.
19:26:25  <Frankr> ok
19:30:22  <Ammler> Frankr: you don't need to redownload :-)
19:30:50  <Ammler> just hg up -r<working>
19:31:19  <Rubidium> Ammler: there were some commits of Beardie during Frankr's work
19:31:38  <Frankr> Oh well i can re pull thm
19:31:43  <Frankr> ty Ammler
19:31:46  <Ammler> or hmm
19:31:58  <Ammler> well, you will also pull your changes
19:32:51  <Frankr> I can go back to a revision earlier
19:33:06  <Frankr> thn copy the files once done pull and paster
19:33:14  <Frankr> paste and push, yh?
19:33:48  <Ammler> yes,
19:35:03  <Frankr> ok i'll do tha
19:36:22  <Ammler> and FaddyPainter doesn't use pure white anymore?
19:37:08  <Frankr> no he doesn't
19:37:16  <Frankr> or shouldn't as we have told him
19:37:51  <Frankr> Ok here goes nothing
19:38:38  <Ammler> yes, he doesn't anymore, the newest plane he posted uses fcfcfc
19:52:53  <Ammler> Frankr: but Faddy also uses fcfcfc for the "background" white
19:53:11  <Ammler> that makes the whole "pure white" fix useless.
19:53:28  <Frankr> I told him not to
19:53:52  <Rubidium> even worse, fcfcfc as background hides the valid pure white warnings
19:54:25  <Ammler> maybe you should write about pure white in forums.
19:54:37  <Frankr> Ammler
19:55:23  <Frankr> Ammler: Wat plane
19:55:48  <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=811422#p811422
19:55:49  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - [WIP] The World Airliners Set - Alpha (When Its Done) (at www.tt-forums.net)
19:56:00  <Frankr> Rubidium: I know and tha means my 2hrs work would be for nothing anyway
19:56:25  <Ammler> I see the issue on your plane set sprites
19:56:43  <Ammler> almost every plane does touch the sprite border with pure white :-(
19:57:45  <Frankr> He said it will b because it off the Greyscale
20:19:01  <Ammler> Dr Milzbrand made it right
20:24:46  <Frankr> Yay, Redone all Airbus'
20:24:53  <Frankr> Now to pcx them and push
20:26:18  <Ammler> the png are already limited to the ttd colors, so why not trash them and use pcx only?
20:27:06  <Frankr> I don't know
20:27:24  <Frankr> I would be easier if they were given to me pcx'd
20:27:26  <Ammler> I would see sense of using pngs as source, if they would use more colors like 32bpp, but that is just waste of converting time.
20:28:54  <Frankr> Ammler: Just to check
20:29:13  <Frankr> Do i copy then pull, paste then push
20:29:53  <Ammler> backup the files, hg pull -u
20:30:06  <Ammler> paste, hg ci && hg push
20:32:05  <Frankr> Ammler: Says no changes found
20:32:17  <Ammler> that seems ok
20:32:33  <Ammler> but did it update?
20:32:40  <Ammler> else run hg update to be sure
20:32:53  <Ammler> or hg parent
20:32:59  <Ammler> to check if it is tip
20:38:10  <Frankr> I have aproblem
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20:38:46  <Frankr> Ammler: It says i have access denied to A380-800f
20:42:13  <Ammler> what is "it"?
20:42:48  <Frankr> An empty folder
20:43:13  <Frankr> sprites/pcx/airbus/a380-800f
20:43:30  <Ammler> I meant, what does tell you, you don't have access?
20:43:45  <Ammler> and why empty folder?
20:43:54  <Ammler> as you just overwrite sprites
20:44:16  <Frankr> i do hg update
20:44:38  <Ammler> yes
20:44:56  <Frankr> it say sprites/pcx/airbus/a380-800f: Access is denied
20:45:14  <Ammler> hg revert .
20:45:21  <Frankr> abort:access is denied (where the file is on my pc)
20:45:34  <Ammler> open in a tool?
20:45:41  <Ammler> I guess, windows has issues with that
20:45:55  <Frankr> abort: no files or directories specified
20:46:00  <Frankr> Yh
20:46:10  <Frankr> won't do anything
20:46:19  <Ammler> did you see the "." after hg revert?
20:46:28  <Frankr> revert the whole repo?
20:46:40  <Ammler> yes, why not?
20:46:46  <Ammler> what tells hg st
20:47:23  <Frankr> png files
20:47:47  <Ammler> he?
20:48:02  <Frankr> just airbus ones
20:49:43  <Ammler> before you paste your backuped files, your repo should be clean.
20:50:30  <Frankr> ok
20:52:24  <Frankr> ok, it is clean now apart from the file which is access denied
20:52:34  <Frankr> do i hg revert all now?
20:54:42  <Ammler> well, if it IS clean, hg revert does nothing?
20:54:59  <Rubidium> Ammler: and if there are files it can't modify it doesn't do anything either
20:56:03  <Frankr> No it doesn't
20:56:15  <Frankr> how do i just erase all and start again?
20:56:15  <Rubidium> Frankr: have you closed all applications that might've had the file opened?
20:56:42  <Frankr> yes
20:57:03  <Ammler> Frankr: remove the repo and clone again
20:57:17  <Ammler> or backup the repo :-)
20:57:20  <Frankr> i can't remember how to do tha
20:57:35  <Ammler> check the guide
20:57:45  <Frankr> where is tha?
20:58:36  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Using_TortoiseHg_%28Windows%29
21:01:40  <Frankr> Ammler: tha doesn't say how to remove it
21:01:58  <Ammler> you don't know how to remove a directory?
21:02:05  <Ammler> (or rename)
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21:05:21  <Frankr> Ammler: I thought u had to type something in
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21:05:48  <Beardie> Hello
21:06:03  <Ammler> well, if you prefer msys, do rm -Rf <dir>
21:06:32  <Ammler> but you should use the tools, you are familiar for such things.
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21:13:07  <Frankr> It sure is taking enough time
21:15:24  <Frankr> Done at last
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21:22:15  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #484: Emirates Sky Cargo 747-400F @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/484 (by FaddyPainter)
21:22:15  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 437: Airbus png changes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/437 (by Frank)
21:24:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 438: Added 727 nfo @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/438 (by Frank)
21:27:44  <Guest167> mäh
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21:31:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 439: Updated All MDs and DCs Pngs from the pure white errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/439 (by Beardie27)
21:37:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 440: Airbus pcx changes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/440 (by Frank)
21:38:17  <Rubidium> r440: 580 -> 582... something has gone wrong
21:39:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 441: Changed Makefile (removed -q from GRFCODEC_FLAGS) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/441 (by Frank)
21:41:26  <Frankr> This gets wierder and wierder
21:42:03  <Frankr> I know tha i have changed alot of the 255 errors to 252 so must be misallignments
21:43:21  <Rubidium> but the number of misaligned sprite shouldn't become bigger when 'fixing' pixels
21:43:49  <Frankr> I dunno we will have to see the compile log 2morro
21:48:12  <Rubidium> something really made it worse
21:48:16  <Ammler> you can make the error by yourself with rubis command
21:48:31  <Ammler> errorlog*
21:48:36  <Rubidium> part of it might be misalignment
21:49:14  <Rubidium> but the majority has such a low number of 'wrong' pixels that misalignment is unlikely
21:50:27  <Rubidium> sprites/pcx/airbus/a380-800/AirFrance.pcx / was.grf:988: Warning: 32 of 2400 pixels (1%) are pure white
21:50:30  <Rubidium> to
21:50:36  <Rubidium> sprites/pcx/airbus/a380-800/AirFrance.pcx / was.grf:1027: Warning: 6 of 2808 pixels (0%) are pure white
21:50:39  <Rubidium> sprites/pcx/airbus/a380-800/AirFrance.pcx / was.grf:1028: Warning: 592 of 3478 pixels (17%) are pure white
21:51:23  <Rubidium> how can the method add so many wrong pixels? Especially in totally unrelated sprites
21:53:22  <Frankr> Wat i can tell u Rubidium
21:53:34  <Frankr> Is tha some of the backgrounds were incorrect
21:53:51  <Frankr> not completely Pure White, that must be it
21:54:24  <Rubidium> that would explain the latter, not the former, unless pixels with the 'wrong' background colour were also used in the 'edge' pixels
21:54:54  <Frankr> Cos if you take the Airbus A380-800 AirFrance for example and colour replace pure white no pink is on the plane
21:55:11  <Frankr> Yh Rubidium
21:55:19  <Frankr> In places tha was the case
21:55:33  <Rubidium> in which case the 'select all white pixels', recolour and then select the background only to make that pure white again fails a bit for you
21:57:04  <Rubidium> there're still some parts of the a380-800 airfrance in the wrong background (although in unimportant places)
21:57:52  <Frankr> See i have just it on mine and it just increase to 619
21:58:40  <Rubidium> uncommitted stuff?
21:58:47  <Frankr> Yh
22:00:03  <Frankr> Very wierd
22:01:00  <Frankr> This is getting very bizar
22:01:33  <Rubidium> a380-800 airfrance pixels around 230,294 (x,y) are the 6 pure white pixels. The other is a nfo-size issue
22:02:44  <Frankr> Yh i have just fixed thm
22:02:45  <Rubidium> Frankr: the 727 nfo isn't linked somewhere, maybe that's causing the different
22:03:03  <Frankr> It isn't supposed to be coded yet
22:03:16  <Frankr> The co-ords aren't done
22:05:34  <Frankr> Rubidium: It shouldn't compile tha
22:05:52  <Frankr> As it hasn't been coded into the boeing.nfo yet
22:19:08  <Frankr> Rubidium
22:19:34  <Frankr> Rubidium: Next Issue will go down to 578
22:22:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 442: A380-800 changes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/442 (by Frank)
22:23:32  <Rubidium> wohooo progess!
22:51:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 443: BAC's done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/443 (by Frank)
23:08:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 444: BAC 146-100 Done @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/444 (by Frank)
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23:17:12  <Leanden> ammler
23:17:13  <Leanden> :P
23:17:51  <Ammler> beardie isn't much online
23:18:08  <Ammler> I guess, you would have more success with msn or something like that.
23:21:20  <Frankr> Beardie is always on MSN and usually Skype
23:21:28  <Frankr> Anyway guys i'm off
23:22:06  <Ammler> msn and skype isn't useable for dev talk :-)
23:22:54  <Frankr> :)
23:22:59  <Leanden> it is to talk to you ammler
23:22:59  <Ammler> and good night
23:23:00  <Leanden> not beardie :p
23:23:03  <Frankr> I'm always on
23:23:14  <Frankr> And i pass messages on
23:23:24  <Ammler> Leanden: than talk :P
23:23:28  <Ammler> e
23:23:47  <Leanden> Beardie informs me that you could help with the coding of the brset
23:24:26  <Ammler> well, we could offer you hosting for development
23:24:38  <Frankr> Cya guys
23:24:39  <Ammler> on our DevZone
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23:24:58  <Ammler> and you could use the Makefile framework from planetmaker
23:25:27  <Ammler> which is in use in opengfx and the sets from andythenorht and foobar
23:25:41  <Ammler> and 2cctrainset
23:27:19  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Welcome <-- some guidelines
23:27:51  <Ammler> and feel free to take a look on the projects there
23:28:26  <Ammler> but if you are looking for coder, this might be the wrong place ;-)
23:29:51  <Ammler> Leanden: ^
23:36:01  <Ammler> well, I will be off soon, feel free to answer anyway, I can read it tomorrow or use the logs.
23:36:16  <Ammler> and good night from my side.
23:42:06  <planetmaker> good night Ammler :-)
23:42:22  <planetmaker> and I guess I should go to bed, too
23:42:30  <Ammler> yes :-P
23:42:50  <Ammler> and now it is off
23:46:29  <Leanden> sprru
23:46:32  <Leanden> sorry*
23:46:37  <Leanden> just found im not going back to uni

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