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00:08:47 <Frankr> :0 i'm off cya 00:09:29 *** Frankr has quit IRC 01:33:32 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: ) 01:33:32 <Brot6> I'm encased in the lining of a pure pork sausage!! 05:47:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:47:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 07:34:24 <planetmaker> Ammler: [06:18] <Brot6> [03:33:32] Backup done! (Usage: ) 07:34:31 <planetmaker> looks strange 08:54:03 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 44: Change: Large Coaster - progress on view no. 7 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/44 (by andythenorth) 09:44:22 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 45: Change: Large Coaster - version with white bow house, about to delete it, mig... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/45 (by andythenorth) 09:44:22 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 46: Change: Large Coaster view no. 7 complete except for greeble @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/46 (by andythenorth) 09:52:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #488 (Closed): KLM 737-900 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/488#change-1231 (by FaddyPainter) 09:53:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: host key of openttdcoop.org has changed 09:53:20 <Ammler> ah, stupid me .-) 09:53:47 <planetmaker> of www.openttdcoop yes :-) I experienced the same :-P 09:54:02 <andythenorth> One angle of a boat takes *fricking ages* 09:54:03 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/ucp.php?i=pm&mode=compose&action=quotepost&p=811969 09:54:05 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums User Control Panel Login (at www.tt-forums.net) 09:54:11 <andythenorth> oops 09:54:22 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=811969#p811969 09:54:23 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Go fishing with the FISH ship set (at www.tt-forums.net) 09:55:15 <planetmaker> seems like loaded in the -- direction and unloaded in the other three 09:55:24 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 93M) 09:55:24 <Brot6> if it GLISTENS, gobble it!! 09:56:59 <planetmaker> and somehow the ship still looks like it's lacking a bit in details. I cannot give you more details to this impression, though ;-) 10:02:50 <andythenorth> oh balls, everyone's a critic :| 10:02:52 <andythenorth> :D 10:30:26 <planetmaker> ah, sorry :-) 10:40:44 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 236: Fix: Remove white pixels from tokyo-s01 metro (part of issue #485) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/236 (by planetmaker) 10:40:44 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 237: Fix: Offsets of 81-729 metro (part of issue #485) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/237 (by planetmaker) 10:41:50 <Ammler> planetmaker: modifies cc-nd sprites :-o 10:41:55 <Ammler> ;-) 10:42:05 <planetmaker> :-P 10:42:15 <planetmaker> bad bad Purno 10:42:40 <planetmaker> half of the errors seem offset errors, the other pixel errors... 10:43:26 <Rubidium> getting more and more happy not to ignore the pure white pixel errors, are you? :) 10:43:54 <Rubidium> seems like OGFX had relatively few real errors per white pixel warning 10:44:20 <planetmaker> Oh yes, Rubidium :-) 10:44:39 <Ammler> different coders for same part, well reviewed 10:45:05 <Ammler> mostly thanks to Zeph and foobar 10:45:20 <planetmaker> He, two things I would like to see here as repository, too are Irwe's set and ISR :-) - and maybe the Japanese stuff, too 10:45:24 <planetmaker> all is GPL... 10:45:43 <Ammler> does "as" code irwes houses? 10:45:45 <Rubidium> you want Japanese stuff? :) 10:45:53 <planetmaker> Rubidium: why not? 10:45:59 <Rubidium> Mini Moni! :) 10:46:05 <planetmaker> :-D 10:46:27 <planetmaker> I prefer Sake over that, actually :-) 10:46:45 <planetmaker> or even better: true Kobe beef. 10:46:58 <planetmaker> if it only weren't that expensive... 10:49:24 <Rubidium> just make your own :) 10:50:32 * Rubidium would like a proper okonomiyaki again :) 10:55:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 47: Add: source files for Small Coaster and Medium Coaster @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/47 (by andythenorth) 10:55:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 48: Add: pcx files for Small Coaster and Medium Coaster @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/48 (by andythenorth) 11:00:22 <Ammler> I would like to see the other GPL newgrfs having somewhere the source, no matter where. 11:01:13 <Ammler> maybe we should ask the forums threads for and offer space here. 11:03:15 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 238: Fix: Remove white pixels from 680 MU (part of issue #485) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/238 (by planetmaker) 11:03:15 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 239: Fix: Remove white pixels and fix offsets from Oscar MU (part of iss... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/239 (by planetmaker) 11:03:26 <planetmaker> I offered Irwe and as the space and help... but they haven't come around yet 11:03:39 <planetmaker> I didn't with ISR and the Japanese guys, though 11:04:17 <Ammler> did you talk with as? 11:06:08 <planetmaker> I wrote a forum mail, it was read, but no answer yet 11:06:27 <Rubidium> the forum mail sucks 11:06:30 <planetmaker> a few days ago. 11:06:34 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 49: Change: renamed graphics files for coasters to a better pattern @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/49 (by andythenorth) 11:06:34 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 50: Change: code for revised coaster naming pattern @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/50 (by andythenorth) 11:06:35 <andythenorth> hmm....when ships are tall, there are quite some graphical glitches with ships. 11:06:36 <Rubidium> you can't even mark something as 'unread' 11:06:50 <andythenorth> ^^ when passing under bridges 11:07:19 <andythenorth> Do we care? about ship glitches I mean, not in general :P 11:07:58 <Ammler> they "glitch" also with missing crash detection 11:08:05 <Ammler> or how that is called. 11:08:34 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:08:39 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 11:12:32 <Frankr> hi 11:14:25 <Ammler> another white warrior :-) 11:14:51 <Rubidium> nah, Frankr is done with pure white pixels :) 11:15:01 <Frankr> Not quite 11:15:07 <Frankr> but it is down to 47 now 11:15:09 <Rubidium> and on with nfo fixing and slapping people to fix their sprites :) 11:15:15 <Frankr> lol 11:15:32 <Ammler> oh, nice :-) 11:17:46 <Frankr> Just the 747-200 drawers need to fix there sprites and the 744D which is a mess 11:17:58 <Frankr> All errors should b fixed by next compile 11:18:37 <Ammler> and new contributions should be with pure white as background ;-) 11:18:59 <Frankr> Yh, tha is wat we have been fixing as well 11:19:19 <Frankr> All the planes up to 737-900er are are pure white background 11:19:24 <Ammler> if you fix that, the contributor isn't aware of. 11:19:47 <Frankr> We will post all the new greyscale pngs by 2morro 11:19:56 <Frankr> and check any new paints up to next friday 11:20:07 <Frankr> tha should sort out any problem 11:21:11 <Frankr> that seem thorough enough Ammler 11:23:02 <Ammler> @services op 11:23:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 11:24:00 <Ammler> @topic change -1 s|mz\.openttdcoop\.org/bundles|bundles\.openttdcoop.org| 11:24:00 *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Logs: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/irclogs | Downloads log: http://bundles\.openttdcoop.org/log.csv" 11:24:05 <Ammler> mäh 11:24:23 <Ammler> @topic change -1 s|\|| 11:24:53 <Ammler> @op 11:24:53 *** Webster sets mode: +o Ammler 11:25:03 *** Ammler changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Logs: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/irclogs | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv" 11:25:34 <Ammler> @topic add . 11:25:35 *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Logs: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/irclogs | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | ." 11:25:39 <Ammler> @topic remove -1 11:25:39 *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Logs: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/irclogs | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv" 11:26:32 <Ammler> kinda much effort to get less highlight ;-) 11:26:42 <Frankr> lol 11:26:57 <Ammler> @deop 11:26:57 *** Webster sets mode: -o Ammler 11:27:24 <Rubidium> it is work again! :) 11:27:33 <Rubidium> (he said in he best engrish) 11:30:11 <Frankr> :) 11:33:34 <Frankr> Ammler: Can u combine Issues on the Issue section? 11:34:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 240: Fix: Offsets for DR12 and Iore (part of issue #485) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/240 (by planetmaker) 11:34:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 241: Fix: Offsets and white pixels for 140C2 (part of issue #485) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/241 (by planetmaker) 11:34:22 <Ammler> Frankr: yes 11:34:30 <Frankr> How? 11:34:59 <Ammler> if you created the issue, you can add relation to other issues. 11:35:27 <Ammler> above watchers 11:36:04 <Frankr> ty 11:36:45 <Ammler> didn't use it much, i.e. how to block the other issue from closing and such... 11:37:41 <Frankr> The Issues are About the Purchase list graphics and 2cc colours for planes 11:37:50 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/sandbox <-- use this project to play, if you want 11:38:27 <Ammler> changes there won't be announced here. 11:39:27 <Frankr> ok 11:46:03 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 242: Fix: Yet another transgression of my rights, removing white pixels ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/242 (by planetmaker) 11:46:18 <planetmaker> ^^ what about that commit message, Ammler ? :-D 11:47:25 * Ammler gives pm a "free from prison card" 11:47:41 <planetmaker> haha :-) 11:47:50 <Rubidium> (not for use in real prisons) 11:47:56 <Frankr> :) 11:48:00 <planetmaker> oh :-( 11:48:11 <Ammler> hehe, indeed, might not work there :-D 11:48:18 <Frankr> u haven't got tha many to fix planetmaker 11:48:30 <planetmaker> sufficient files... 11:49:11 <planetmaker> still 72 warnings; the file count will be less, though 11:49:31 <Ammler> do you use something automatically? 11:49:57 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #492: Use New XL 737-900ER @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/492 (by FaddyPainter) 11:50:07 <planetmaker> no 11:50:13 <planetmaker> gimp and manual work. 11:50:22 <planetmaker> though the "select everything of one colour" works fine 11:50:45 <planetmaker> and it's slow work as half of them are true offset errors 11:50:58 <Rubidium> planetmaker: start with the ice3 :) 11:51:18 <planetmaker> I work by sprite number. Easiest. And has to be fixed anyway... 11:51:31 <planetmaker> and it's slow as every engine has its own file... 11:51:31 <Rubidium> (I fear all of those warnings are offset errors) 11:51:38 <Frankr> I just slogged through it 11:52:08 <planetmaker> mostly purchase list is wrong and head lights are white pixels 11:52:11 <Rubidium> http://paste.openttd.org/208429 11:52:29 <Frankr> Well our 744D purchase is 100% white 11:52:55 <Frankr> Tha needs sorting :) 11:53:02 <planetmaker> he :-) 5 trains then to go :-) 11:53:21 <Ammler> indeed, we already laughted about that 11:54:35 <Frankr> :) 12:12:54 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 495: 742 Faddy's Iberia and Hellenic sorted (No Pure White Pixel E... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/495 (by Frank) 12:16:19 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #490: Fix Your 747-200 png's @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/490#change-1232 (by Frank) 12:26:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 34: [DLlog] Change: don't force downloading of txt files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/34 (by Ammler) 12:26:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 35: [DLlog] Fix: add date to initial entry, too @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/35 (by Ammler) 12:26:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 243: Fix: Remove last warnings: Offsets and white pixels in MUs ICE3, TG... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/243 (by planetmaker) 12:26:12 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #485 (Closed): pure white pixels @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/485#change-1234 (by planetmaker) 12:27:15 <Ammler> wow :-) 12:27:47 <planetmaker> pew... 12:33:14 <Frankr> congratz 12:34:15 <planetmaker> :-) ty 12:38:54 <Ammler> planetmaker: 1.0.2 release? 12:39:35 <Ammler> oh, there are still some open bugs :-) 12:42:06 <planetmaker> yes. found a nice one right now. Bad \ in the wrong place :-) 12:42:22 <planetmaker> disabling each a real sprite, generating error level 4 12:49:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 244: Fix: Don't add '\' into comments. It's bad (closes #325) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/244 (by planetmaker) 12:49:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #325 (Closed): missing real sprites (nfo error) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/325#change-1235 (by planetmaker) 12:55:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 51: Change: progress on Large Coasterview no. 6 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/51 (by andythenorth) 12:59:17 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 245: Fix: silence the warning about usage of colour codes in sprite no. 1 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/245 (by planetmaker) 12:59:18 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 246: Fix: Property 1D of silo wagons @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/246 (by planetmaker) 13:09:38 <Ammler> planetmaker: imo, the wrong way to silence nfo warnings. 13:09:58 <planetmaker> Ammler: the warning 144, there's no other way 13:10:02 <planetmaker> or how do you mean? 13:10:21 <Ammler> request update of nforenum 13:10:45 <planetmaker> that's another thing :-) 13:10:48 <Ammler> if there is a reason, that won't be silenced, silence it directly in nfo. 13:11:15 <Ammler> like I did with the Action8 warning in ogfx_extra 13:12:20 <planetmaker> hm, yeah... 13:12:32 <Ammler> was was a good example, why not silence it in global conf. 13:16:48 <planetmaker> hm, no? And why was that? 13:18:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:28:22 <Ammler> planetmaker: yorick added -q to grfcodec flags 13:28:39 <planetmaker> that silences everything 13:28:45 <Ammler> so Frankr and Beardie didn't see the errors we had on the farm. 13:29:04 <planetmaker> I silence one colour code warning 13:29:11 <Frankr> i didn't no 13:29:29 <planetmaker> no or know? 13:35:42 <Frankr> no 13:35:56 <Frankr> it should be, i didn't, no 13:46:16 <planetmaker> I'm afraid that doesn't parse for me :-) 13:53:54 <Ammler> :-) 13:54:40 <Ammler> I wasn't aware of that-q, because the CF overwrote the flags 13:54:51 <Ammler> hmm, wouldn't be needed anymore, btw. 13:55:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: another reason, you should silence the nfo warnings in the nfo directly 13:56:05 <planetmaker> :-) 13:57:05 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/182/diff 14:03:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 496: Corrected ANAPokemon 747-400D + Removed Pure White from all 7... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/496 (by Beardie27) 14:03:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 497: Changed File name on B747-400D Anapokemon png @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/497 (by Beardie27) 14:03:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 498: r497 and r496 now merged @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/498 (by Beardie27) 14:04:02 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated. 14:06:26 <Frankr> 1 error lol 14:13:58 <planetmaker> // warning about high IDs //@@WARNING DISABLE 141 // warning about colour codes in action 8 //@@WARNING DISABLE 144 ^^ that doesn't do the trick for me, Ammler, if inserted into 00header.pnfo. And I don't get why... 14:20:40 <planetmaker> anyway, I'm off for now 14:24:28 <Frankr> cya 14:24:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: stupid precompiler removes the comments 14:25:27 <Rubidium> check how it's done in ottd_grf 14:27:35 <Ammler> do you use precompiler there? 14:27:49 <Rubidium> yes 14:28:06 <Rubidium> it's called a preprocessor though :) 14:29:55 <Ammler> ah, anyway, don't see it there 14:30:10 <Ammler> -C 14:49:23 <planetmaker> ah, right. The -C is missing, I guess. 14:51:38 <Ammler> I had issues using it last time. 14:58:26 <Ammler> but maybe, it was something else 15:54:29 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #493: American Airlines 757-200 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/493 (by FaddyPainter) 16:18:01 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r235 to r246, starting nightly compile 16:18:22 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/ 16:18:22 <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r212) 16:18:22 <Brot6> fish: update from r38 to r51, starting nightly compile 16:18:34 <Brot6> fish: compile done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ 16:18:34 <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169) 16:18:35 <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r200) 16:18:35 <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r40) 16:18:35 <Brot6> worldairlineset: update from r469 to r498, starting nightly compile 16:19:13 <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlineset/nightlies/ 16:19:18 <Frankr> 1 error hopefully 16:19:24 <Frankr> yay 16:22:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:22:11 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 16:25:34 <Ammler> concrat Frankr 16:25:42 <Frankr> :) 16:26:05 <Ammler> (and pm) 16:26:05 <Frankr> At least it is done now 16:47:07 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:47:12 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 16:47:29 <DJNekkid> hi guys 16:51:02 <planetmaker> congratz, Frankr :-) 16:51:11 <planetmaker> hey DJNekkid 16:51:12 <Frankr> ty 16:51:23 <Frankr> hi DJNekkind 16:51:31 <Frankr> lol 16:51:36 <Frankr> Nekkid* 16:51:56 <planetmaker> tab completion rulez ;-) 16:53:53 <Ammler> DJNekkid: planetmaker fixed around 100 errors from you ;-) 16:54:12 <planetmaker> and Purno :-P 16:54:47 <DJNekkid> i see you invited Lawton27 to add the code and stuff to the repo... 16:54:49 <planetmaker> yeah, I still hope that DJN doesn't loose interest in the 2cc set :-) 16:54:51 <DJNekkid> wanna make one? :) 16:55:04 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, you should even be able to do yourself :-) 16:55:11 <DJNekkid> in theory :) 16:55:14 <planetmaker> :-) 16:55:20 <DJNekkid> but i just fuck things up! 16:55:22 <planetmaker> Let's try together 16:55:29 <DJNekkid> i'll rather let the pros do it :) 16:55:34 <DJNekkid> and i'll rather code stuff :p 16:56:28 <planetmaker> nah, as active as you are, you need to learn to add a new project here :-) 16:57:19 <Ammler> hg clone <localrepo> ssh://ottdc@dev.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/<project> 16:57:46 <Ammler> and how to create the project itself, that should be quite easy. 16:57:54 <planetmaker> ^ and then just use "New project" on the website 16:58:21 <planetmaker> obviously you have to init your repository first locally before you can clone it to the server 16:58:29 <DJNekkid> so ... 16:58:53 <DJNekkid> 'cd <localdir>' 'hg init' 16:58:59 <planetmaker> First: make yourself a repository on your computer for the project. Yes 17:00:59 <DJNekkid> remote: illegal repo 'home/ottdc/hg-repos/nmts 17:01:28 <DJNekkid> abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 17:01:45 <Ammler> andythenorth: "Schtop. " <-- is that your german? 17:01:55 <andythenorth> Grolsch... 17:02:40 <Ammler> hmm 17:02:52 <Ammler> do you need full access for cloning? 17:03:07 <planetmaker> dunno... really... 17:03:36 <Ammler> DJNekkid: what is the command you runned? 17:04:03 * Rubidium wonders what andythenorth has been drinking ;) 17:05:44 <DJNekkid> Ammler: hg clone <dir> ssh://<stuff> nmts 17:07:48 <planetmaker> hm... maybe it's sane, if either Ammler or me has to sanction the start of a new repo... 17:07:55 <planetmaker> what does nmts stand for directly? 17:08:01 <planetmaker> new monorail train set? 17:08:06 <DJNekkid> new monorail train set 17:08:11 <planetmaker> :-) 17:08:55 <planetmaker> let me init it. Then you can pull it (an empty repo) 17:09:11 <planetmaker> try now to clone it. 17:09:23 <planetmaker> like you would clone 2cctrainset 17:09:37 <planetmaker> (but other path, of course :-P ) 17:15:15 <planetmaker> I mean: try now to clone the repository from our server to your computer 17:15:52 <DJNekkid> hg clone ssh://ottdc@dev.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/nmts 17:15:53 <DJNekkid> ? 17:18:06 <DJNekkid> seemed to work :P 17:19:55 <Ammler> you should have called it monolev ;-) 17:20:01 <Ammler> Rubidium: likes that name 17:20:15 <DJNekkid> i just did the code, not the name :) 17:20:21 <Rubidium> wut? 17:20:56 <Ammler> just remember as you complained about us using it in opengfx. 17:21:49 <Rubidium> when? 17:22:57 <Ammler> well, irc chat only, not officially ;-) 17:23:52 <Rubidium> I never even spoke that name 17:24:03 <Rubidium> I only said that I dislike monorail and maglev 17:24:35 <Rubidium> primarily due to their track ugliness 17:26:05 <Ammler> well, that is limited from game engine, as it needs to be equal to ground. 17:32:24 <Rubidium> planetmaker: what's your issue with FS#3139 actually? 17:33:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 52: Change: Large Coaster view no. 6 near enough complete @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/52 (by andythenorth) 17:34:06 <Ammler> Rubidium: it is hard to distinguish, why the game crashes, it would be nice to see, e.g. which version of the grf would be needed. 17:34:30 <Rubidium> so? 17:34:37 <Ammler> now, you need to start with -d grf=3 or similar and check the output. 17:35:16 <Rubidium> so THAT is the problem? 17:35:39 <Rubidium> and all the nonsense about "wrong filename" and "wrong MD5 checksum" is just purely bogus 17:35:55 <Rubidium> not to speak of the "or something like that" error message description 17:37:00 <Ammler> well, I don't know exactly what pm did. 17:37:18 <Ammler> ISR is one of the very ugly coded grfs 17:37:35 <Ammler> it isn't compatible, but doesn't change md5sum 17:37:43 <Ammler> GRFID I meant 17:38:16 <Ammler> they didn't change the ID, so you can easy upgrade a running game with new Version. 17:38:34 <Rubidium> anyhow, you need grf=1 to get a list of the compatible newgrfs 17:39:39 <Ammler> yes, but why not show that when the game crashes? 17:40:29 <Rubidium> it does, on systems that have a proper crash handler *and* where crash handling has been implemented 17:41:24 <Ammler> well, pm should tell you the exact issue. I just speak from "old" own experience. ;-) 17:42:37 <Ammler> somehow, it would be nice to have possibilty to load old versions to bananas, so we could remove those GRFs from the pack completely. 17:43:21 <Rubidium> old versions are removed from the pack anyway 17:43:34 <Ammler> yes, the compatible ones. 17:43:48 <Ammler> but e.g. ISR is still in the pack with around 4 different versinos. 17:43:57 <Rubidium> https://secure.openttd.org/bugs/task/3065/getfile/4523/crash.log 17:44:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 53: Change: angle no. 6 complete for Small Coaster and Medium Coaster. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/53 (by andythenorth) 17:45:15 <Rubidium> ^ shows a nice log of what the user messed around with NewGRFs 17:45:19 <Ammler> we plan to make a new release without the BaNaNaS grfs 17:46:10 <Ammler> but it is a bit silly to release a pack without newest ISR, but with the old, just because the new is in Bananas 17:46:44 <planetmaker> Rubidium, concerning FS3139 17:47:06 <planetmaker> what I did was load a game with an old version of ISR. 17:47:49 <planetmaker> as they messed around with (non)track tiles, and OpenTTD only finding an incompatible version of the newgrf, it crashed (fine, it's the grf's fault) 17:48:45 <planetmaker> what I expected to see in the output though was: the MD5 of the newgrf which it was searching. 17:48:59 <planetmaker> a vital piece of information in order to find the correct one. 17:49:31 <Frankr> bk later tea time 17:51:50 <Rubidium> so the thing you call a debug message is actually the big fat "omg I have crashed"-thingy 17:52:18 <planetmaker> yes. Sorry, if I mis-labeled it. 17:52:45 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:52:46 <Rubidium> hmm... that's tricky 17:53:00 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ODM 17:53:03 <planetmaker> as it says also [dbg] I called it debug :-) 17:53:49 <planetmaker> is the expected MD5 stored in a savegame? 17:53:59 <planetmaker> it should somehow, isn't it? 17:54:33 <Rubidium> the crash thingy doesn't show [dbg] 17:54:51 <planetmaker> hm, ok :-) My fault then. 17:55:06 <Rubidium> also the md5 and stuff are stored in the savegame, but get overwritten once a compatible newgrf is loaded 17:56:08 <planetmaker> hm... right, I remember that discussion once, now you mention it. 17:57:28 <planetmaker> Proposal: Just add an additional text line: "Start openttd with parameter -d 3 in order to retreive the expected MD5 of the offensive newgrfs" 17:57:44 <planetmaker> :-) I was too stupid to think of that at that time 17:59:36 <planetmaker> That should then be an easy fix without much worry and store-this-there-till-then acrobatics :-) 17:59:40 <Rubidium> well, -d 1 is more than enough too 17:59:45 <planetmaker> ok 18:01:33 <Ammler> and for the bananas issue, we would need to ask the ISR devs to upload also the old grfs, I fear. 18:03:00 <Rubidium> which they likely won't due because they are 'old and buggy' 18:03:15 <Ammler> and not sure, if openttd could handle that 18:03:43 <Ammler> I mean, openttd would see a newer grf with the same id and just load that, wouldn't it? 18:04:11 <planetmaker> I'm still a fan of newgrf version 8 with minor versions introduced :-) 18:06:33 <Ammler> that is something else. 18:07:02 <Ammler> our issue needs the exact same version, which md5sum is fine. 18:09:59 <Rubidium> if OpenTTD doesn't find a matching NewGRF it loads a 'compatible' one (randomly chosen from the NewGRFs with the same GRF ID) 18:10:11 <Rubidium> it is not aware of any versioning within NewGRFs 18:10:17 <Rubidium> because the specs don't do that 18:10:29 <DJNekkid> Ammler: are the bananas pw's removed from the devzone? 18:10:32 <Ammler> and if one is already there, why should it download one from bananas? 18:10:43 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, no 18:10:43 <DJNekkid> i thought i were under "mangers" 18:10:48 <DJNekkid> -s 18:10:49 <planetmaker> they are 18:11:05 <Rubidium> and "we" (OTTD+TTDP) never got around version 8 of newgrfs which could feature versioning 18:11:20 <Ammler> well, Truebrain and maybe also Rubi doesn't like, we share our bananas accounts ;-) 18:11:25 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfmanager/wiki/BaNaNaS <-- DJNekkid 18:12:24 <Rubidium> oh, that's good... so from now you're sharing your bugs, wiki and translator accounts too :) 18:12:26 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I'm aware that there's no decision yet. Might not even yet be the time but adding a few further additions :-) 18:12:38 <planetmaker> Dunno which, though 18:12:55 <Ammler> well, I use 2 accounts 18:13:04 <Ammler> one for the grfs and one for me 18:14:52 <Ammler> the bananas account is something like a "project" account. 18:15:14 <Ammler> but the issue is, if the password goes lost ;-) 18:15:49 <DJNekkid> Rubidium: do you have anything to do with this page? http://www.openttd.org/en/account/signup/step2 18:16:07 <Rubidium> no, TB does 18:16:21 <Ammler> DJNekkid: do you migrate the accounts? 18:16:37 <DJNekkid> mi 18:16:41 <DJNekkid> my accounts yes .. ? 18:16:44 <Ammler> you shouldn't migrate your bananas account. 18:16:56 <DJNekkid> but but ... it told me to! 18:17:07 <Ammler> well, nvm, then 18:17:13 <Ammler> just use another pw ;-) 18:17:40 <Rubidium> there went one shared account? 18:17:57 <Ammler> no, we shared our accounts 18:18:09 <Ammler> me, djn and andy 18:18:31 <Ammler> pm doesn't have grfs. 18:18:42 <Frankr> bk 18:32:53 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 18:41:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monolev TrainSet - Revision 0: initial upload @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nmts/repository/revisions/0 (by DJ Nekkid) 18:41:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monolev TrainSet - Revision 1: added a .xls sheet, and adjusted all running costs and TE's @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nmts/repository/revisions/1 (by DJ Nekkid) 18:46:36 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:58:05 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:58:10 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 18:59:19 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Revision 0: initial upload @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nmts/repository/revisions/0 (by DJ Nekkid) 18:59:19 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Revision 1: added a .xls sheet, and adjusted all running costs a... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nmts/repository/revisions/1 (by DJ Nekkid) 19:00:14 <planetmaker> I hope you don't mind that I changed it to monorail & maglev instead of the wrong maglev :-P 19:08:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 54: Change: angle no. 4 for all coasters @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/54 (by andythenorth) 19:12:08 *** Irwe has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:12:09 <FooBar> ah, good to have that set in a repo as well :) 19:12:13 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Irwe 19:12:40 <Irwe> planetmaker: are you working for FIRS? 19:13:51 <Irwe> no you don't:P never mind 19:13:55 <planetmaker> :-) 19:13:58 <FooBar> no, but I am :P 19:14:10 <planetmaker> I just forwared your pm to foobar and andy, irwe 19:14:14 <andythenorth> I am / I am not :) 19:14:19 <Irwe> yes I know.. stupid me mixing up the people here at the community 19:15:06 <Irwe> anyway I can send you (andy or foobar) 2 gas stations I've finished 19:15:35 <planetmaker> don't worry Irwe 19:15:44 <FooBar> that would be nice, Irwe :) 19:15:53 <planetmaker> I'll happily distribute wrong mails to the proper people :-) 19:16:02 <FooBar> :) 19:16:12 <planetmaker> (as long as it's for a good cause) 19:16:19 <planetmaker> and that is up to my discretion :-P 19:16:37 <Irwe> no need to:) I'll just rewright it 19:17:08 <planetmaker> you can just edit the sent mail 19:17:13 <planetmaker> and add new recipients 19:18:49 <Irwe> well it wasn't a long PM :) 19:19:59 <Irwe> the importance is that you get the files 19:20:25 <FooBar> got it ;) 19:20:33 <FooBar> oh, and thanks! :) 19:21:27 <Irwe> you'r welcome, I'm just happy FIRS is moving along nicely cuz I think it will be sexylicius when first stable relase comes 19:27:30 <Irwe> later if you guys want the coding for the gas stations to make them buildings you can ask as 19:29:22 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 213: Add: Gas Station source sprites (by Irwe) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/213 (by foobar) 19:29:44 <FooBar> I looked into coding houses and it doesn't seem much different than coding industries, but I'll make sure to ask as if I need something. No need to reinvent the wheel ;) 19:30:29 <Irwe> exaclty 19:30:47 <FooBar> Maybe you should set up a repo at the devzone? Ofcourse as would need to use that as well then, so he would need to agree with that as well... 19:31:17 <Irwe> I can talk to as about it, we do have alot to do before beta release 19:31:42 <FooBar> sure, no need to hurry 19:34:27 <FooBar> the beta might actually be a good starting point to push everything into a repository. OpenGFX didn't use a repository straight from the start either, and that turned out rather well :) 19:35:13 <Irwe> verry well :) 19:35:58 <Irwe> well I'm off, good evening gentlemen 19:36:14 *** Irwe has quit IRC 19:43:32 <Ammler> FooBar: yeah, it made the inital creation of tickets doeable :-) 19:47:09 <FooBar> :) 19:50:29 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 247: Codechange: Disable warnings in the nfo, not in the makefile @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/247 (by planetmaker) 19:50:33 <planetmaker> though IMO it hasn't hurt FIRS to have a repo right from the start :-) 19:53:53 <andythenorth> for a collaborative project like FIRS, repo is an epic win 20:10:00 <planetmaker> :) 20:13:00 <Ammler> many projects starts as a private thing and grow up to be community project, so it doesn't hurt to use it from start. 20:13:12 <Frankr> WAS was like tha 20:20:41 <planetmaker> :-) 20:27:00 <Ammler> has the monorail project makefile support? 20:27:46 <Ammler> hmm, why does DJN still work with ugly batch file? 20:28:13 <Ammler> he is such a silly guy. 20:28:40 <Rubidium> because batch is native to Windows? 20:29:28 <planetmaker> well. But he uses make for 2cctrainset :-) 20:41:29 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 55: Change: coasters - hull now 1 pixel higher in all horizontal views @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/55 (by andythenorth) 20:44:54 <andythenorth> planetmaker: ^^ 20:45:27 <planetmaker> :-) 20:51:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:29:17 <Frankr> My god 21:29:28 <Frankr> 70 changes in 1 push 21:31:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 499: Massive Plane Update, (Changing Plane Sprites) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/499 (by Frank) 21:31:44 <Frankr> should have left it for r500 21:35:39 <Ammler> rename the files and remove () from file name ;-) 21:36:14 <Ammler> wouldn't that be neat r500? 21:38:27 <Frankr> lol, already accidentally done it Ammler 21:39:16 <Ammler> or removing useless pngs from source :-) 21:39:48 <Ammler> does pikka work with png? 21:41:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 500: Forgot about removing the old Tu154B and M Greyscale names @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/500 (by Frank) 21:41:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 501: What a rubbish r500 birthday, forgot to celebrate it properly... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/501 (by Frank) 21:43:36 <Frankr> Ammler: i don't know i think he must have 21:44:28 <Ammler> a png with the same quality as the pcx is useless and it seems you have just double work. 21:45:21 <Ammler> but it is you, who is coding, so you have to care about ;-) 21:45:47 <Ammler> don't get me wrong, I don't complain about because you waste diskspace. 21:46:16 <Frankr> well ammler i agree with u 21:46:31 <Ammler> and once in the repo, you can't delete it anymore. 21:46:50 <Frankr> can remove thm 21:47:25 <Ammler> well, not from history, so it would still need the diskspace. 21:47:35 <Ammler> but you could save work, 21:47:47 <Ammler> you don't need to handle everything twice. 21:48:39 <Frankr> problem is we have to trust the painters thn 21:49:07 <Frankr> and some of the painters just pop on the ttd forum and thn post a plane 21:49:47 <Ammler> that is fine, 21:49:59 <Frankr> we have converted everything into pcx now anyway 21:50:23 <Ammler> yes, but if the pcx has same quality as the png 21:50:31 <Frankr> wat we could do is just me and beardie when posting in the repo just convert the image into pcx and post it 21:50:33 <Ammler> you could easy convert back to png. 21:51:15 <Ammler> so if you think, the png will ever be needed again, you could make them from the pcx too. 21:51:34 <Ammler> but I don't see, why you will ever need the png, if you have the pcx. 21:51:41 <Frankr> they are kept on the WAS forum anyway 21:52:20 <Frankr> it would be best talkin to beardie about this when he gets back 21:52:20 <Ammler> there would be a reason, if you would have the png in truecolor or 32bpp 21:52:35 <Ammler> or in other resolution, but all that isn't the case. 21:53:05 <Ammler> the png is a exact copy of the pcx, so simply redundancy. 21:54:00 <Frankr> i don't know because we change the png 21:54:32 <Frankr> we use a palette on it and then convert 21:54:46 <Ammler> hmm 21:55:11 <Ammler> the pngs from tt-forums are already 8bpp 21:55:24 <Ammler> so I don't think, you change them 21:55:45 <Frankr> well we run a palette on them which alters some colours i think 21:56:13 <Ammler> then it would make sense, 21:56:23 <Ammler> but which png do you save on the repo? 21:56:35 <Frankr> plain 21:56:49 <Ammler> the png from forums? 21:56:57 <Frankr> yh 21:57:12 <Ammler> then you convert and save as pcx? 21:57:17 <Frankr> yh 21:57:21 <Ammler> hmm 21:57:32 <Ammler> then it would make sense to save both. 21:57:55 <Frankr> the palette may be only to make sure tha ppl have used the correct colours but i don't know 21:58:05 <Ammler> but the pngs from the tt-forums use already the palette. 21:58:28 <Frankr> yh but some ppl use wierd colours 21:58:36 <Frankr> they don't stick to the palette 21:59:08 <Frankr> i was fixing alot yesterday and some had 254 254 253,253 254 255 wierd colours 21:59:16 <Frankr> tha all got converted to 255 21:59:23 <Frankr> pure white 21:59:44 <Ammler> which app do you use for the images? 21:59:55 <Frankr> i mixture 22:00:04 <Ammler> you should try gimp :-) 22:00:20 <Frankr> Jasc Paint Shop Pro, Gimp and Photshop 22:00:35 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:01:06 <Ammler> dunno the 1st one 22:01:31 <Frankr> It is gd, i got it off beardie 22:01:40 <Ammler> gd? 22:01:43 <Rubidium> god! 22:01:49 <Frankr> sorry 22:01:50 <Frankr> good 22:02:12 <Frankr> i'm so used to writing short 22:02:33 * Rubidium remembers using like version 5 of it 22:04:01 <Ammler> Yu lk t wrt wtht vwl 22:04:01 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated. 22:04:07 <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated. 22:04:26 <Rubidium> mmlr: thn dnt s vwls! 22:04:54 <Rubidium> Ae: o o ie i oe ;) 22:05:03 <Ammler> hehe 22:05:32 <Ammler> this seems to work a lot better in german 22:05:38 <Ammler> at least better readable 22:05:49 <Frankr> i makes sense 22:05:56 <Rubidium> ao Ae! 22:06:07 <Rubidium> oe i? 22:06:13 <Frankr> Are you both german? 22:06:17 <Rubidium> o 22:06:37 <Ammler> nn 22:06:51 <Rubidium> aaaaa :) 22:07:07 <Ammler> I see one german here 22:07:14 <Ammler> and around 10 dutchies 22:07:30 <Frankr> and English 22:07:35 <Ammler> you? 22:07:42 <Frankr> Me and Beardie both are 22:07:44 * Rubidium is probably the closest to a German ;) 22:07:47 <Ammler> oh, you are neighbours 22:07:52 <Frankr> roughly 22:08:00 <Frankr> about 1mile away 22:08:19 <Ammler> I need 3-4 hours to Germany 22:08:34 <Rubidium> I 42 minutes... if I walk 22:09:19 <Frankr> 3-4hours where r u? 22:09:45 <Ammler> hmm, well, I could go over austria then it might be 1-2 hours 22:10:03 <Rubidium> CH 22:10:32 <Frankr> Switzerland thn 22:10:37 <Ammler> www.amden.ch 22:10:59 <Ammler> well, we speak somehow Germanish 22:11:38 <Rubidium> hmm... Emden, Deutschland in Switzerland? 22:13:17 <Ammler> afaik, there is only one town called Amden on the world 22:13:49 <Ammler> at least I didn't find something else with google or other ways. 22:14:01 <Rubidium> http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/Ammler says Emden, Deutschland 22:14:03 <Webster> Title: Ammler - Ohloh (at www.ohloh.net) 22:15:26 <Ammler> the map shows easter CH where Amden is 22:16:00 <Ammler> I am around 1h from Zürich 22:17:04 <Ammler> http://maps.google.ch/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.148534,9.147168&spn=0.034207,0.090809&t=h&z=14 22:17:05 <Webster> Title: Google Maps (at maps.google.ch) 22:17:32 <Frankr> I'm around 4hrs from London (by train) 22:17:57 <Rubidium> hmm... is it Utrechtenstrasse or Uftrechtenstrasse? 22:18:00 <Frankr> probably the same for flying these days 22:18:53 <Rubidium> although, that street might be in the next hamlet 22:19:32 <Ammler> Uf 22:21:19 <Rubidium> it does have a regular "train" connection... well train :) 22:21:36 <Ammler> that is around 20mins away with bus 22:21:53 <Rubidium> noo... I mean the SL101 :) 22:22:06 <Rubidium> Niederslag-Amden SBA 22:22:11 <Rubidium> goes every minute 22:22:28 <Ammler> lol 22:22:42 <Rubidium> http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/bhftafel.exe/en?input=8530492&boardType=dep&time=10:49%2B1&productsFilter=1:1111111111&dateBegin=23.08.09&dateEnd=23.08.09&selectDate=period&maxJourneys=10&start=yes 22:22:43 <Webster> Title: SBB: Online Timetable (at fahrplan.sbb.ch) 22:24:44 <Ammler> that should be Walau, not Niederschlag 22:25:07 <Rubidium> oh... it's "officially" a train :) 22:25:14 <Rubidium> Trainname: SL 101 22:25:15 <Ammler> silly such thing in the time table 22:25:40 <Ammler> that "train" "drives" only on nice weather 22:26:09 <Rubidium> "nice weather" meaning daily from june till november 22:26:09 <Frankr> those trains would be rubbish in this country 22:26:27 <Ammler> on winter for skiing 22:27:12 <Ammler> I have 5 mins on foots to that station 23:42:16 <Frankr> I'm off cya 23:42:21 *** Frankr has quit IRC